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The Insanely Great Podcast is your weekly mix of tech, AI, sports, politics, and whatever other shiny object grabs our attention. One minute we’re breaking down the future of artificial intelligence, the next we’re debating game-day drama, political chaos, or the kind of random topic that somehow becomes the best conversation of the episode. Smart, funny, and just unhinged enough to keep things interesting, it’s the podcast for curious people who like their insights sharp and their conversations a little unpredictable.
Christopher Weeks (00:00.78)
Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of the insanely great podcast. I'm Chris and this is my buddy DJ again for another weekly roundtable of well actually it's the two of us and it's square. So hello DJ. How's the night finding you?
DJ (00:15.947)
Pretty good. We'll solve those corners off soon enough. Bring some more people in.
Christopher Weeks (00:23.458)
Yes. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully better than Tim the Toolman Taylor from the 90s. Anyway, how's your week been? Anything of interest to you or work-wise happening with you?
DJ (00:36.443)
It has been, it has been a huge week in AI and Metta actually stepped back into the, let's call it the AI race, right? Like we used to say the space race, but they've come back in from their super intelligence lab. So it's just getting more wild by the day.
Christopher Weeks (00:56.917)
Right. thought Facebook was fully, deeply invested in this when they kept hiring the lead engineers from every company they could find a way. And I kept thinking, you're not doing that unless you're very serious about where this is going.
DJ (01:18.32)
hugely. So yeah. Alexander Wang, the guy that they brought over from Scale AI. This is their first model drop since he joined. He's he's the one that Zuck brought over the homemade soup to to to woo him. Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (01:28.147)
Okay.
Christopher Weeks (01:33.029)
Uh-huh. Okay. I didn't hear that story.
DJ (01:38.463)
hand delivered.
Christopher Weeks (01:39.693)
uh... yeah and unit zuckerberg is hand delivering you uh... uh...
That doesn't happen that often.
DJ (01:49.104)
No, it makes you think about working for somebody, yeah.
Christopher Weeks (01:52.269)
I it makes you feel some value. I would have preferred Steve Jobs coming over to my house and being like, want to grab a beer, Or have one of my cars? Anyway.
DJ (02:04.334)
Yeah. Or those watches he always gave away. I'll take one. So speaking of working for someone, can you imagine working for Donald Trump this week?
Christopher Weeks (02:09.461)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Christopher Weeks (02:18.028)
I cannot. I can't imagine how much of a mess it is this week. You know, how insane is it that we live in a time where the president of the United States is truthing, tweeting, it's whatever the same thing, about the end of a civilization of a country and killing millions of men, women, and children.
DJ (02:40.329)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (02:48.46)
And he's just like, oh it's too bad, it's probably going to happen. And the fact that he does it on Easter Sunday, no less. A big day for Christians. And then he drops this whole Praise be to Allah thing, which is, he's just mocking the
DJ (03:01.395)
Yes.
Christopher Weeks (03:17.216)
the religion of Islam and I just you can say what you like about religion you can be for it against it whatever but I think at the very least we should have a president United States that respects everybody's religion and doesn't sit there at the head of the table mocking someone's religion all those days when
In his first term, he said, you will not find a larger Christian than me. And people would ask him what his favorite Bible verses, and he would just sit there and go, I don't know, all of them. They're all great.
DJ (03:51.103)
Right? There's so many.
Christopher Weeks (03:53.897)
Yeah, so many. And I won't play the clip. Tucker Carlson had about a 10 minute clip where he really, we'll just say since it was Easter, we'll just say really crucified him for his lack of etiquette and being a normal human being.
DJ (04:17.929)
Well, that's the thing, right? When the crazy people start calling you crazy, you really got to start watching your back.
Christopher Weeks (04:24.341)
Yeah, I mean, the crazy people have already left him completely and they're calling for the 25th Amendment to be used against him. I mean, this is going to sound unreal, but Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones have been telling people, do not vote for this guy. This is the end of democracy. He's not doing anything he told us.
I mean, Nick Fuentes is encouraging people to vote for Democrats right now. And Alex Jones, the super weird...
DJ (04:58.117)
That's crazy.
Christopher Weeks (05:05.695)
Conspiracy theorist is saying that Trump's out of control and we need to invoke the 25th Amendment right now because he's threatening genocide on the Iranians. That might be the most sane thing that Alex Jones has maybe said in his life.
DJ (05:21.64)
I just, have the clip of him saying they're turning the frogs gay man. Just on loop in my head when I hear his name. Well, speaking of the 25th, or pulling the 25th amendment, do you know what it requires? Like what's it take to actually pull this off?
Christopher Weeks (05:29.491)
Yes. Yes.
Right, right.
Christopher Weeks (05:43.563)
I think it's two thirds of, or is 75%, I think it's two thirds of every House, Senate, and...
Christopher Weeks (05:55.851)
uh... and uh... and uh... and uh... uh... uh... uh... and and uh... and and and and
DJ (06:02.362)
It's a number similar. Yeah. So I looked it up. It says it has to be written by the vice president agreed to by a majority of his cabinet. And also, like you said, two thirds majority in the house to remove him. So that's like you, his whole cabinet is just sick of fancy. So I just don't see it happen.
Christopher Weeks (06:05.258)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (06:10.121)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (06:13.596)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (06:18.047)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (06:25.778)
no no no, it's... it's not, No!
Christopher Weeks (06:33.323)
You know, like, I was listening to this historian today that was talking about the rise of Hitler and the people that didn't connect the dots and couldn't put everything together because they went out of their way to limit information that people got. The issue that we have now is actually the opposite. People have the information. We have it right in front of us. But the tribal
allegiances are just out of control and nobody is willing to say this is wrong it needs to stop it should never happen
I mean, what do you think of all this?
DJ (07:18.263)
I caught Kimmel's bit. Ever since he wanted Kimmel banned, I've started watching him pretty religiously. And I remember seeing clips of Iranian women literally like, you know, holding hands, forming a circle around the power plants. And I had to look it up why they would do this around power plants. Apparently it's against the Geneva conventions to attack a power plant. So
Christopher Weeks (07:26.334)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (07:48.036)
Like you are literally doing the most.
Christopher Weeks (07:49.188)
It well, it's against the Geneva Conventions to attack a civilian power plant. And how we get around that is we say like, it's attached to a military structure that's powering military apparatus and then it becomes. But yeah, I mean, there's a whole long laundry list of things that are not okay, according to the Geneva Conventions Act for war procedures like
know, civilian bridges, nuclear power plants, schools for children, hospitals, I mean, you name it. You can go down this list of things that are inappropriate for us to do that we potentially would do because we have a lunatic in charge at the White House.
DJ (08:38.431)
If I recall the first night they bombed, they hit a hospital.
Christopher Weeks (08:44.179)
Yeah, wouldn't surprise me.
DJ (08:49.06)
I recall that reporting at like, was, it was, they claimed it was an accident, right? It wasn't targeted as bad as that sounds, but.
Christopher Weeks (08:55.899)
No, we did attack a girl's school where a bunch of young girls got killed. Like my neighbor said to me when I was talking him about this, he's like, well, the news story's over and the news has moved on from that. It's really not a big deal anymore. And I said, well, I think it's a big deal for the parents that are still grieving from that, that lost their child.
DJ (09:02.373)
Hmm.
Christopher Weeks (09:25.641)
The news cycle can move on all they want, but that grief isn't going anywhere.
DJ (09:25.977)
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
DJ (09:33.808)
I want to, I want to touch on this because I I've heard it on the night shows and in the news, like even Matt has made fun of this where he, his go-to line is two weeks. that happened two weeks ago. That's going to happen in two weeks. That's his way of basically, I don't know why 14 days is his favorite number, maybe 13. And he just rounds to two weeks, but he always throws that out there. it's going to be two weeks. And that's usually just enough time for the news cycle.
to completely forget about it and the, what do you call it? The, the social, societal, like thought, right? Like it's no longer popular culture, I guess, to talk about it or whatever you would call that. Like it just fades and we move on to the next thing, which is what he tried to do with this entire thing to get away from the Epstein files in the first place. But what's your take on the two weeks?
Christopher Weeks (10:28.328)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (10:32.344)
I listened to this guy, Mike Baker, who's a former CIA analyst who has been making the rounds on every podcast, it seems this week. He's even appeared on Fox News because he's a Republican centrist. And I enjoy him not for his politics, but for his analysis. And he firmly believes that this was poorly thought out. That
Every president up until now has avoided this for the same reasons of there isn't a good exit strategy of getting us out of this thing. And there was always the possibility that they were going to lock down the Strait of Hormuz and it was just going to be a giant mess to unwind that.
DJ (11:11.257)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (11:24.176)
I my Mike made this assertion saying, what are we going to do? Have naval ships walk or sail alongside all the tankers for the next year? I mean, the drain on our assets on the naval, as well as the financial burden on that, for doing that for just a year would be astronomical.
DJ (11:36.964)
.
Christopher Weeks (11:53.851)
Crazy.
DJ (11:54.359)
No, and no one's going to help us with that because we did this to ourselves. You know, this same exact scenario played out 10 years ago when we pulled out of Iraq. Finally, that created a power vacuum and brought us, what now kind of what was, what was the other one that came up for a little while.
Christopher Weeks (11:58.919)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (12:16.549)
I'm-
DJ (12:18.053)
can't recall now, but basically it was super, super conservative group of people that try to take over Iraq. They were pretty successful. I remember them destroying monuments and other things on their reign of destruction. You don't hear much about them because I remember Trump in his first presidency, you know, talking about he dealt with ice. Was it ISIS or maybe a
branch of it or something like that.
Christopher Weeks (12:47.664)
Yeah, probably would have been ISIS.
DJ (12:50.532)
But basically he's created a power vacuum and he's going to create one here. If he keeps attacking whomever they put in power. If I recall, they took out, I forget the person's name now that the leader, but his son stepped in. It's like, you're really just swapping one evil for another.
Christopher Weeks (13:09.894)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (13:14.619)
Yes, and there's a legitimate argument to be made that, you know, there's an old expression, the devil you know is better than the one you don't. We have no idea what we just put in place here. Our idea was regime change, and that was never realistic. It was never going to happen. So now we've got, who knows, in charge and how much worse it's actually going to be.
I think we've given them severe incentives to want to.
provide serious damage to the united states if there wasn't that before you know killing the head of you just put a giant target on the entire country
DJ (13:54.891)
Agreed.
DJ (14:03.15)
Yeah. You know, personally, I think a lot of this has been spun up a lot of it due to Israel. You know, we have been so pro Israel for a long time, but now it's only been amplified this last presidency under the Trump administration. I mean, you had, you had so many leaders coming.
to Trump basically, you know, trying to gain favor, giving him gifts. And I'm going to submit you for the Nobel peace prize and all this other stuff a while back. And one of them was the leader of Israel, a major donor to Trump's fund was also, I forget her name now, but she's also very pro Israel. So you know that she's going to hold sway when she talks to, know, to him and he's just been very
pro Israel to the point of, kind of feel like, like you said, it, I think the, maybe the desire is not the right word, but almost the want to do something about that country has always been there. And then Trump gets in, he's easily persuaded. He goes wherever the money goes. And now you've got someone in his back pocket with very deep pockets of their own persuading him to be pro Israel. And if Israel wants to do something,
about Iran. Well, he's going to back them.
Christopher Weeks (15:32.55)
Right, right. Well, actually, you know, I mean, think about it. The Israel Bibi has asked multiple presidents to get involved in this and they've all said no from George Bush to Biden to Obama. And there was a New York Times article that came out this morning from, I think it was Maggie Haberman.
talking about that his advisors tried to talk him out of this and he wouldn't listen. said, let's do it.
DJ (16:11.975)
I recall hearing that too.
Christopher Weeks (16:14.104)
Yeah. It's a weird environment where the backbone of the Republican Party, I honestly think he just doesn't care right now. He's like, you know, I'm probably termed out. I'm going to be 80 years old. The cognitive function is going to lose me soon. This is going to be it.
I don't really care if I burn the entire Republican party to the ground along the way.
mean, your base is largely Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly, and they're saying, they're using words like, can you stop being weird?
DJ (16:48.802)
Yeah.
DJ (16:59.709)
Ironically, a word that Democrats tried to push right before the election. Don't be weird. They're so weird.
Christopher Weeks (17:06.125)
Yeah. And I thought it, I thought it was an accurate description. know, unfortunately, we didn't have the wherewithal for Joe Biden to just get out of the way and for the process to go through what should have happened. And that's, that's his own ego that was in the way. He needed to say, look, I don't have the, the, the tact and the
the suave to do this again against this man.
I don't know. He should have stepped aside.
DJ (17:44.042)
Yeah.
One could argue if he didn't have the mental faculty to understand that, then he wouldn't have the mental faculty to, you know, understand that and step aside. I did want to, I looked it up. It's Miriam Adelson who, Sheldon Adelson's widow, a huge donor and a huge pro-Israel supporter.
Christopher Weeks (17:58.275)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (18:02.093)
Okay.
Christopher Weeks (18:10.052)
Hmm, interesting.
DJ (18:11.468)
So that's, you know, when I saw a video about it that some reporter had dug up and I was, it just made sense, right? You follow the money, everything with Trump is money and you don't have to follow it very far. I mean, look who's funding his ballroom.
Christopher Weeks (18:29.731)
Right, right. But you know, it's gone on, his ballroom is over budget and behind and the money that he got from his donors isn't gonna cover the ballroom anymore.
DJ (18:43.574)
wow, I was unaware of that.
Christopher Weeks (18:45.474)
Yeah, he's already at like $388 million, $400 million, and a judge ruled that it's the people's house and that Congress has to approve this, so they have to stop building. It's just going to be one mess after another. Meanwhile, I...
DJ (19:04.07)
It is. And to a large degree, he does not often listen to judges until he almost ignores them until it gets to the Supreme court where he knows bias rolls his direction.
Christopher Weeks (19:17.82)
Mm-hmm. Though we do have the birthright citizenship cases that were just heard before the Supreme Court and it's looking like that's not going to be favorable to him as it shouldn't be.
DJ (19:36.032)
Agreed.
Christopher Weeks (19:37.155)
I mean the text is there, it's pretty plain, you can read it, you know, this whole narrative of, I don't know if you followed the Supreme Court questions or what was said, but...
DJ (19:53.568)
No. Do you remember some of it?
Christopher Weeks (19:57.282)
Yeah, the Solicitor General said that we are a plane ride away from having 80 million illegals coming into the United States and being American citizens overnight. And he tried arguing that it's a new world, to which John Roberts said, it's a new world, but it's the same Constitution.
DJ (20:24.384)
I like that. That's good.
Christopher Weeks (20:27.779)
Yeah.
You know, one of my good friends is a constitutional lawyer and we always have this discussion that they, Republicans like to pick and choose which items they don't want taken literal, that they want adopted to today, expand it. And then they want rulings on that. But Democrats have for the longest time said, let's look at the second amendment and
This was obviously meant in a different time and we'd like it applied today to a different meaning and judges are all like, no, no, no, no, no. The text is all there. There's not much you can do.
You know, I think maybe the only Supreme Court justice that I had a lot of respect for regarding the Second Amendment was Scalia, who had a hard line regarding the text for the Second Amendment saying that it's obviously to bear in your bear means to carry. So you can't have a howitzer attached to your car.
DJ (21:39.087)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (21:45.706)
So he, you know, he's like, it's, he firmly believed that there were limitations that should have been put in place and it's up to society to determine what those limitations are.
DJ (22:02.096)
Right. Well, I mean, when they wrote this at the time, they couldn't account for howitzers, right? And to a large degree, the constitution is a living document. mean, we've modified it, you know, what, 20 some odd times. I don't remember how many modifications there's been, but yeah, it,
Christopher Weeks (22:07.617)
Yes.
Christopher Weeks (22:19.66)
Correct.
DJ (22:26.863)
If it were to stay exactly the same as it were, our society would be a lot different than it is right now. Right? Women wouldn't have the right to vote. so many other things.
Christopher Weeks (22:40.063)
I mean, you know, we literally had to amend the Constitution to make sure that slavery was outlawed and...
Women, you know, were given the right to vote and civil rights protections and You know, it's I mean the list goes on and on and on you know, and I come back down to If we need a Birthright legislation and things fixed then get the Congress to do it
I mean, it's not to run this in circles. don't know how you feel about the border issues that we have. mean, the border security was what largely hurt the Democrats in this last election.
But it seems like they're just putting Band-Aids on this and they just want it president to president to president, really, nobody legislating it away.
DJ (23:45.64)
Yeah, they just keep kicking the can down the road as many prisons have done with a lot of issues, including like, just like we talked about Iran, by the way, 27 amendments, the last one in 1992. So I was in the ballpark.
Christopher Weeks (23:58.752)
Wow. You are, yes. Anyway, have you heard anything about our nice little Artemis spaceship? Or not spaceship, it's more like a capsule canister floating around on its way.
DJ (24:13.95)
So two things that the nightly, you know, nightly, uh, comedy news shows have, went in on, they have a separate toilet room, which is different from every other capsule. They love harping on that cause toilet humor. And the second thing is I saw the clip of them completely ignoring Donald Trump on his call. I when, if you watch the clip, it is uncomfortable. It's well over a minute of them just sitting there like, I'm
Christopher Weeks (24:22.025)
Mmm. Yep.
Christopher Weeks (24:39.775)
Wow.
DJ (24:42.173)
I'm not touching the mic. I'm not saying a damn word. Have you seen the whole clip? It's brutal. And you're sitting there the whole time thinking who's going to break the silence and it's president Trump. He's, he comes through like, are we, are we still connected? Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (24:46.146)
Mmm. I have not. I have not looked for this.
Christopher Weeks (25:00.895)
Wow. So he phoned them and they just didn't want to say much?
DJ (25:07.784)
Pretty much. Yeah. It's, I think two, two us, two people from the U S and two people from Canada, I think, or maybe three from the U S something along those lines and no one had anything to say to him.
Christopher Weeks (25:09.803)
Wow.
Christopher Weeks (25:18.784)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (25:25.61)
That's crazy. I mean... I mean, I can't say I blame them.
DJ (25:27.537)
Yeah, just left him hanging.
DJ (25:33.381)
No, no, it's, it's, what was the basketball team or a note? It wasn't a basketball team. It was the Olympics team where he invited. Yeah. The, he invited the male team, but not the female team. Right. He, he gave extension through a very passive, aggressive way.
Christopher Weeks (25:34.536)
I mean,
Christopher Weeks (25:42.964)
Yeah, are you talking about the hockey team?
Christopher Weeks (25:50.177)
Well, he also, he did, he's, yeah, he said, I'm going to have to invite the women also, otherwise they're going to say I'm not politically correct. And then the women proceeded to cancel and had dinner with Stanley Tucci in Italy, which, yes, I don't know if you know Stanley Tucci is kind of a gourmet cook and all this stuff as well as an actor. Anyway, so.
DJ (26:09.336)
did they?
DJ (26:17.885)
Cool.
Christopher Weeks (26:19.188)
The ladies got this gourmet meal in Italy and the men's hockey team got McDonald's.
DJ (26:24.72)
Yeah, I do recall that. Yeah. He does that to everybody though. I remember there was a photo that came out right around Thanksgiving where I guess someone in the white house and in turn, or someone had doctored it to make it look like a Thanksgiving meal. One, they're all sitting there on the airplane. And if you go back just a few weeks in his truth posts, the real picture is them sitting there with like a McDonald's
like just McDonald's foods everywhere. Right. And that's what he really served them on the flight. And then he, you know, he's trying to make it look all festive and badly Photoshopped might I add to look, to look like it was Thanksgiving. It was awful.
Christopher Weeks (27:06.41)
Wow.
Christopher Weeks (27:10.911)
Wow, that's crazy.
DJ (27:13.777)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (27:15.239)
Wow. mean, I don't, you know, like things that shouldn't be political are becoming political. I don't know, we start getting into my pet peeves here. Like my neighbor, my neighbor was saying on his radio show that people on the left are looking for anything they can to blame Donald Trump for, and that they're rooting for the Artemis capsule to have a malfunction and a failure.
and for this to be some sort of disaster. To which I said, give me a fucking break. I don't know anybody on the left or even a moderate amongst my friends that has been like, hey, you know what, I really hate Donald Trump. I hope the Artemis has a capsule malfunction. I know nobody, nobody that says that.
DJ (28:02.767)
running yet.
DJ (28:07.386)
And the irony is it took someone on the right thinking that to come up with it because it, like you said, I have not heard that come from the left at all. It's always, what do you call it?
Christopher Weeks (28:18.098)
Yeah, it's just...
DJ (28:24.399)
when you cast something you do onto them, onto the other person, I forget the name.
Christopher Weeks (28:28.095)
It's a cognitive bias when you want something to be true and you feel it, but you can't verify it and it's out there. I had this discussion with my friends and my radio host neighbor. He gave me this assertion that he said, I feel so much safer under Donald Trump right now than I would under a Kamala Harris-Walls administration.
DJ (28:41.531)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (28:58.663)
And I said, while you're entitled to feel that way, it's an unverifiable statement that you made because you're talking about something that is pure speculative opinion. There's no way of knowing what a Harris-Walls administration would have been like. I like to think that we wouldn't have had these tariffs and we would not be at war with Iran right now.
But again, you can't prove that. It's all speculation. So I said to him, what I know right now is Donald Trump say he's morally bankrupt. He's got no center of gravity that keeps him guided doing the right things. first term was all about tariffs and
companies are going to eat that money and Americans are going to get great new deals and it's going to be so good for us and it was all bullshit. None of it, none of it turned out.
DJ (29:57.243)
you
DJ (30:04.901)
Yeah. I remember him saying he would do away with income tax, right? He, we would start getting paid based on a tariff, tariff, whatever you call them, seizures.
Christopher Weeks (30:11.347)
Yes.
Christopher Weeks (30:15.23)
Hmm.
Christopher Weeks (30:20.03)
Yes. Oh, and don't you remember there was going to be a balanced budget. There was going to be a doze checks from all the money that they were finding for every American. There was going to be 2000 bucks because of all the cuts in spending that they were going to give money back. And all of a sudden, none of it happens. It's all just bullshit. And it's it's you know, like it.
DJ (30:45.304)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (30:48.999)
It's so weird to do this, but I was really moved and happy that we were rescuing the backseat pilot out of Iran and the operation that we went through to pick him up. And actually the story of him climbing to up this mountain to kind of signal where he was at and then get the whole rescue situation where we had two.
very expensive planes get stuck and we had to send in more to get them out of there and the number of things that could have gone wrong with all this. And we have a pretty extensive history of like, you can look at like 1980 when we tried to rescue people and the planes just all crashed and burned and never went well. So I was really, really glad that we were able to rescue this pilot.
But what troubled me was I'm sitting there listening to this stuff and I'm sitting there going, I know we rescued the pilot, but I literally have doubts and I don't believe the information that's coming out from the administration. I think they're cherry picking points that they want out there and they're making sure that the American public is only getting what they want us to have.
DJ (32:13.549)
Exactly.
Christopher Weeks (32:14.725)
I just, this administration has lied so much about little things that you don't trust big things when they happen anymore. And it's, right, it's just, it's frustrating to listen to your government and think these are the people that I should be trusting, that I should have faith in to tell me what's going on, and I don't have that.
DJ (32:25.466)
Or at least not when it comes from them.
DJ (32:44.122)
I will say that a lot of what he ran on the first time and this time, just not as, not as loudly is the whole eroded faith in institutions. That's why a lot of people voted for him in the first time, probably the second time, just not as pronounced, but what he's doing only goes to further that erosion in institutions, right? You're,
Christopher Weeks (32:44.304)
It's.
DJ (33:12.555)
Acknowledging it right now. It's, it's going to take us so long to undo the damage he, he does every day. He's, he's, I forget what it's called. I can see the guy's name who told him basically like do so much stuff that they just don't have time to pay attention to one particular thing. And that's what he's doing. He is just spamming us with bullshit.
Christopher Weeks (33:42.872)
Right. You're probably talking about Stephen Miller who likes to, probably, yeah. I mean, they're notorious for that. Just give the media so much stuff that they can't focus on at all. I think that was his quote.
DJ (33:47.01)
is banned.
DJ (33:50.649)
Yes. Yeah.
DJ (33:56.279)
Hmm. And, and, and look what happened with Epstein, right? Like he fired Pam Bondi over the whole Epstein debacle. But I watched a video, Brian Taylor, I think Brian Taylor Cohen on YouTube talking about how it could have actually been preemptive in an attempt to try to keep her out from in front of Congress, fire her to keep her out from in front of Congress.
Christopher Weeks (34:22.576)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (34:25.834)
He was interviewing a Congress member, Ro Khanna, think, and he said, we're just going to go after her personally. Like that's not going to do anything. We're just going to subpoena her personally, directly.
Christopher Weeks (34:39.022)
Right?
Right.
DJ (34:43.274)
It's all a big circle jerk with these people. They're just helping each other left and right, not only in terms of getting rich, but like getting off for things, right? He helped.
so many countless people he let out of jail with pardons. Like you don't even hear about that, right? He let so many of so many people on the right that were in support of him before they got put in jail for all the corrupt crap they did. And he just pardoned.
Christopher Weeks (35:21.381)
All
DJ (35:23.114)
And that comes and goes so quickly. It's not even a blip on society's radar.
Christopher Weeks (35:30.255)
Yeah, it's crazy. know, I jokingly say that there's a line that they use for responses on almost everything. It starts with, well, I jokingly say it's, what button are they going to push first when they hear something that they need to push back? Usually it starts with, but Biden first. Biden did this. They start with, what about ism?
That's your strongest argument is, but Biden. But the, you know, like Iran, you're kind of sitting there out in the wind. Like Biden didn't decide to go to this length with Iran. So the whole but Biden thing doesn't work. So throw that one, I check that off. The second one they like to do is, just give it time. Time will answer everything. It'll all be okay. You just need time. Yeah.
DJ (36:14.295)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (36:24.375)
two weeks.
Christopher Weeks (36:25.561)
Yeah, two weeks, two weeks is gone. I won't obey you anything in two weeks. This mess is still going to be there. You know, like I went when when the tariffs were put in place originally, people were like, just give it time. And the president was like, there's just going to be a little bit of hurt for a short while. And that went right out the window. The short while and a little bit of pain. And it's here to stay. Not all that stuff.
DJ (36:33.224)
yeah.
Christopher Weeks (36:56.292)
Well, you know, and then they all and they go, the response after that is he's playing five D five D chess and you can't understand what he's doing. So all right, let me get this straight now. He's so brilliant that no one can understand what what what's going on with his mind because he's so many steps ahead. And we just look stupid now with Mr. Five D.
DJ (37:08.344)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (37:26.074)
was saying that he's gonna end civilizations on easter good lord
DJ (37:32.053)
Yeah. Wipe them off the map. That's a big country, by the way. A giant country. It's going. Yeah. I mean, they are, they are kind of packed into specific areas, right? Cause the land is arid over there, but it's still huge.
Christopher Weeks (37:37.786)
Yeah, there's 80 million people. 80, 90 million people.
Christopher Weeks (37:48.676)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (37:55.948)
Insane. Moving off of Iran, did you hear OpenAI had a giant fundraising round where they're now worth even more money than before?
DJ (38:11.563)
They are, they have raised more money than literally any other AI company, including Metta and Metta has Facebook and Instagram and what happened, everything else to lean on. They are raising insane money.
Christopher Weeks (38:23.725)
I think from what I'm reading it was high hundreds of billions of dollars around the size of the largest tech firms and they're pushing this super chat GBT app that's going to be able to do chat coding search and automation into one interface.
DJ (38:44.983)
Hmm. Well, that's the whole thing, right? Like everyone is now competing against open claw because we finally got a taste of what actual autonomous agents can do. Models that are finally to the point. It's. It's no longer just a dream that you have to patch together.
And everyone has to compete with that open AI bought the not bought, hired the guy that made open claw to do exactly this. They want to get you in their ecosystem, right? They want you in their walled garden. So you pay their subscription and you need it more and more and you pay higher and higher tiers.
Christopher Weeks (39:23.288)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (39:26.839)
Right. So the big angle that I feel everyone needs to talk about is that OpenAI is really pushing for AI to become infrastructure and no longer being seen as a toy. Yes, they want that. They want users and enterprises. They want AI on the front door of everything. I think maybe I'm just...
DJ (39:41.163)
Yep. They released a paper.
DJ (39:51.287)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (39:56.108)
A little bit old school in this. I just think it's way too early for this.
DJ (40:04.602)
I'm torn on that one. I do think it's too early to just have AI and everything, but there are also a lot of scuttlebutt about the next models that are coming out from Anthropic and the next models coming out from OpenAI and just how much further this leap is going to be. we have now, I don't know if the
the leading labs are doing this, but we, just got a distilled model from, or sorry, a mixing of terms there. We just got a diffusion chat model. It's super small, super powerful and crazy fast, like faster than models, its size that are based on transformers. And it's actually theoretically smarter because it's kind of figuring out what it's going to say all at once, or at least in chunks.
Christopher Weeks (40:48.44)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (41:03.83)
So it's not next word prediction. It's almost like it's predicting the entire paragraph in a sense. So it's more coherent. People are, uh, are raising that part up like when it tells stories and stuff, but they're the new mythos model came out and it's released to the API. is insanely expensive by the way. It makes Opus look free basically or
Christopher Weeks (41:32.449)
Really?
DJ (41:33.461)
or discount price. Yeah. It's, um, I think they said like $20 input and 45 or $50 out, which is more than double Opus just to use the model with API. So yeah, but it's crazy good, right? Cause it's the one that has discovered all of the vulnerabilities. It discovered a vulnerability in BSD that had been there for over 20 years.
It discovered a vulnerability in FFMPEG that had been there for over 15 years. You have to think these are open source projects. People have poured over this source code. They've had tools go over this source code, right? BSD is, you know, Harkin or, not Harkin, but, you know, trot it out to be one of the most secure operating systems of our time. And it found something in there that was over 20 years old.
Christopher Weeks (42:32.097)
Right.
DJ (42:32.328)
by going through the code line by line. So now they're afraid to release it. It's very limited. You can't get your...
Christopher Weeks (42:39.448)
Are you talking about, are you talking about, anthropics, mythos? Yeah.
DJ (42:44.146)
Mythos, yeah. You can't go get, it's on their API, but you can't just get it. They have to allow you to get it. So like Microsoft, Cisco, CrowdStrike, all these companies are using it for vulnerability discovery.
Christopher Weeks (42:54.424)
Well, I actually read their briefing that they said regarding Claude Mythos saying that there was too much of a large scale cyber attack risk in the near term. And they were suggesting that it's too capable for broad public release right now. Then you get into the whole question of whether that's a
Is it too powerful for our safety or is that just, are they really using those words to draw people to use a slightly lesser model and make them feel good about their security measures that they're putting in place?
DJ (43:37.96)
Yeah, never let a good disaster go to waste. And if it, even if it's bad media, like when you hear, good and good media and bad media is the same, like this is them leveraging bad media, but in a, it's kind of like answering that question. What is your weakness? And you're like, I work too damn hard. You know, like you're trying to reverse it. That's essentially what they're doing here. They are reversing it, trying to say,
Christopher Weeks (43:41.484)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (43:58.646)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (44:03.964)
it's finding thousands of vulnerabilities. This is terrible. We can't let you have it only to make people want it more. Right? Like they're working this from every angle. and, and yeah, they're only given access to about 40 or 50 organizations right now. Microsoft, being one of them, you can get the preview on like bedrock and Google vertex and places like that only if you're allowed. So yeah, they're, they're saying that basically
Christopher Weeks (44:08.641)
Right.
Right.
Christopher Weeks (44:29.772)
Right.
DJ (44:32.628)
If this falls into the wrong hands, which if it's on the API, anyone can, can use it like there's no such thing as software security anymore. Like people are just going to be finding vulnerabilities left and right, especially in open source where all the codes there. And if you stop and think about the AI ecosystem, I would, I would dare to say 75, 80 % or more of the software we use.
Christopher Weeks (44:49.994)
Right.
DJ (45:02.532)
in this ecosystem is open source. A lot of the models.
Christopher Weeks (45:05.642)
Right. So with AI being able to go through open source software fast and really punch it, don't you think that's a possibility that we might actually end up with open source software being more secure than closed source?
DJ (45:26.791)
There... See, I would say yes. I would say, yeah, this could definitely be a boon.
Christopher Weeks (45:32.918)
I mean before the argument was we have enough people that are banging on it and testing it, but now that we have models that are going through it and really looking at every single line and really testing it and putting it through the paces.
DJ (45:50.375)
Well, I would say yes, if everything were still handwritten. But the other part of this is you have people vibe coding stuff up with weaker models. I mean, you can't get this model right now, right? So you're vibe coding something up. If it learned a bad pattern or you deploy it in a vulnerable way, this thing can still reach out and find it, right? And if, if you make an app,
that is very public with, and you have a lot of people's information. mean, this is, this is the boogeyman behind vibe coding overall is you really can't trust an app now, especially if it's new to know is this, is this open source project actually fairly safe to run or even an app you're paying for? I recall about a year, year and a half ago, I was looking for,
Christopher Weeks (46:26.015)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (46:45.746)
like an abacus AI or a, uh, an alternative that let you use a bunch of models at one time. Right. I remember coming across this one site that seemed a little too good to be true. It was like 10 bucks a month for unlimited usage on certain models. And I went to their website and I'm scrolling down and then all of sudden the page just breaks. I refresh it, load it in another browser, still broken. And I'm like, they vibe coded the whole site. So like,
All a sudden I'm thinking, I'm not giving you my payment information, even if you send it off to Stripe. I'm not, you know, if you have memory in this thing, you're storing my conversations, you're storing memories, like you have a treasure trove of my information, the model's gathering it automatically. You can't even get your site right and take my payment correctly. Why am I going to give you all this other information?
Christopher Weeks (47:42.121)
Yeah, that's a point.
DJ (47:42.162)
That vibe coding is the only reason I think that it is only going to become more of a danger when these models get smart enough to autonomously find vulnerabilities and they can run 24 seven.
Christopher Weeks (47:58.548)
Right, right. And then that leads us to, you know, while we had this Artemis launch, Elon Musk couldn't resist opening his mouth and talk about that we need to get data centers in outer space.
Christopher Weeks (48:17.589)
I get why he's saying that because, you know, the solar power is going to be there 24-7 to power these things and blah blah blah blah.
I don't know, what do think?
DJ (48:34.193)
think it's a risk reward, right? Like we already have literally thousands of satellites he's put up there for his internet service all around the world and Starlink. Yeah. I didn't realize that they had had all those launches to put thousands of satellites up. You know, you always used to think one launch, one satellite, right? That's the way NASA always did it.
Christopher Weeks (48:42.367)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (48:46.239)
You're, wah, crap, what the hell is it called? I forget. Star like yes.
Christopher Weeks (48:57.951)
Yeah.
DJ (49:02.565)
But apparently these things are so small. They're just like jam packing them on. And every launch that he's doing is taking them up literally thousands of them. They are pretty far out. Like they're further out than like say the space station and things like that. But there, if I feel like there's still this potential that if anything were to go wrong, you have all of a sudden trapped us on earth. Because if these things start to fly apart and
Christopher Weeks (49:05.961)
Yeah.
DJ (49:31.725)
hit, you know, bang into each other. We now will have like this, shrapnel cloud around us and you won't even be able to safely exit the atmosphere to go anywhere else. You have trapped yourself on earth forever.
Christopher Weeks (49:48.793)
Right. That's a good point. That's a good point.
DJ (49:53.884)
So, I mean, the benefit really has to outweigh the danger, but then again, like he's already put all these thousands and thousands of satellites out for Starlink. What's going to stop him from doing this? My sister has it. Ironically, she got it about six months before they ran fiber to my, where my parents live, which is way out in the sticks, but she loved it.
Christopher Weeks (49:53.907)
You
Christopher Weeks (50:08.125)
Have you tried Starlink before?
Christopher Weeks (50:21.949)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (50:23.365)
Fast speed, very low latency for satellite connection. was tremendous.
Christopher Weeks (50:25.809)
Yeah, yeah, well, yeah. We tried it on a flight to Hawaii and they were like, don't use it for FaceTime. Everyone on your row and on your plane doesn't need to be listening to your FaceTime call and all this stuff. Very first thing I did was fucking a FaceTime call.
DJ (50:46.993)
Yeah, just put your earbuds in, you're good.
Christopher Weeks (50:49.075)
first thing I did, And I was like, because I was really impressed. I was getting 400 megs down and 150 up traveling at, what, I don't know, 500 miles an hour, 600, whatever that 747 was doing.
DJ (50:58.106)
Wow.
DJ (51:06.673)
three miles up, right? So crazy.
Christopher Weeks (51:08.744)
Yeah, I mean, kind of crazy. Yeah, you know, and then I have a feeling, well, that brings us back a little bit to Apple. I have a feeling Apple is going to be negotiating with them for their satellite connectivity because Amazon is about to purchase the company that Apple is currently using for their satellite text messaging.
Christopher Weeks (51:39.586)
Also, it was leaked that the iPhone 17 Pro Max is taking photographs on the Artemis along with the Nikon 5D. So, there's a big giant discussion as to how locked down that iPhone 17 Pro Max is.
I the only thing it's allowed to do is, I guess there are Bluetooth systems that are on board the Artemis. There is no wifi, nothing like that. I guess it's allowed to connect to some of the Bluetooth systems. They've shown the astronauts with AirPods in, so they're using that for communications and whatever else.
Um, you know, don't you feel like it's a little bit of a missed opportunity for Apple to be like, you know, when they showed the first picture of that's been taken, like, I don't know, whatever 30 years or whatever of the earth and they're like shot with an iPhone 17 pro max. And how was, uh, Tim Cook not be like, we're going to take that photo and it's going to be, uh, um, it's going to be in New York city next week.
DJ (52:52.449)
Yeah.
DJ (53:05.997)
Mm-hmm. I did see those.
Christopher Weeks (53:06.908)
Just seems like it's a missed opportunity.
DJ (53:10.864)
I did. I saw earth rise and, the, think it was Colbert called it a lunar or a solar eclipse. thought it was a lunar eclipse because they're in the shadow of the moon and you can't see the, the sun for the earth. I want to say it's a lunar eclipse. I'd have to look it up, but yeah, like amazingly cool. And you're exactly right. why are they not leaning into this and being like, it's not a damn Samsung. Okay.
Christopher Weeks (53:24.242)
Hmm.
DJ (53:41.079)
It's an iPhone up there.
Christopher Weeks (53:41.306)
Right, right. Yeah, yeah. mean, it's crazy. I can't even imagine how large the files are. mean, I was listening to a guy talk about that it's ultra low bandwidth, the system that they're using with the antenna. So the amount of time to get this HIF, high efficiency image format sent to earth.
DJ (54:00.025)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (54:10.812)
You know, and then there was the discussion of, they think, they don't actually know that somehow this thing plugs in cable-wise to a system that they have on board the Artemis and that the people at NASA are able to look at like a giant gallery of all the photos and pick like one that they want sent back.
because of the amount of time it takes for a photo to get sent via this antenna and ultra-low bandwidth that they can't just sit there and pick like nine. You know, the entire mission might be over by the time all nine photos got sent. So.
DJ (54:57.666)
Right. Yeah. They're not, they're not streaming Netflix up there. It must be pretty boring or they've loaded that iPhone full of movies and TV shows. That's what they're all crowded around watching.
Christopher Weeks (55:08.271)
Yeah, yeah. Well, and you know they're not like, all right, it's my turn to charge the iPhone. What do mean we don't have any power left?
DJ (55:17.357)
Yes. Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (55:21.137)
We overshot the moon and now we're heading to Pluto
DJ (55:25.133)
Well, just remember Pluto is not a planet, so wouldn't be going there.
Christopher Weeks (55:28.389)
Yeah, we're visiting another rock. Yeah, we went from one to another. But speaking of AI, did you hear that Yahoo is trying to get back into the AI business? Yes, yeah. They launched what they're calling Scout that is an AI, it's an AI answer engine that's built on.
DJ (55:32.077)
You
DJ (55:38.507)
What about the f-
DJ (55:44.575)
No way. No-
Christopher Weeks (55:56.241)
some of Anthropix tech and they're trying to get a value again. My thing is, is there room for like three or four or five AIs?
DJ (56:05.751)
So it's not their model.
DJ (56:14.253)
Well, I mean, you're saying it's it's scout and it's based on anthropic. mean,
They're just another wrapper. Like this is a problem that the AI ecosystem has had for a long time. A lot of these third party apps are just wrappers for delivering someone else's API. A lot of them give you value by, you know, putting a lot of models together and keeping them updated, giving you memory on top of that between models. Or you can just go, you know, straight with open AI, straight with entropic or whatever and put up with their, their
limitations, especially with Anthropic. But there is the prevailing thought that because software is going to die, because everyone is, will, you know, soon have enough intelligence in their pocket that they just tell what kind of app you want to have. And as long as it's like a step tracking app, a calculator,
or something like track your calories, you're good to go. But if it's anything more complex, like you're gonna have to go to a third party model provider and code it up. But there's been several apps out there that have basically tried to say,
DJ (57:39.349)
It's basically like disposable apps is how they're looking at it. Like you code it up for almost a one time use and then just throw it away. The model can just code one up next time and it's bespoke software for exactly what you need in that situation. And the models can turn this out so quickly. You don't really need SaaS solutions anymore. You don't need someone to code up a piece of software and you buy it for 30 or $50.
these models are just going to be so good. It'll just give you what you want when you need it. Now, I personally think not there because a lot of those apps and services have failed to really take off. And I don't, I don't know if they're bankrupt as well, but you would think is, is these models become more intelligent. It's, only willing to become more of a reality. Like I don't think software is dead yet in terms of human development.
but we are slowly edging our way there every model release.
Christopher Weeks (58:39.919)
Absolutely. So would you... Go ahead.
DJ (58:44.598)
But back to Yahoo real quick though, it's just a wrapper. It's perplexity, right? It's Google. You're competing against Google. I don't know.
Christopher Weeks (58:51.78)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (58:55.459)
Right, my feeling is people generally seem to think in twos. I use Google for search. If I don't like the results from that, I use whatever it might be, Bing or whatever. I think we're gonna be doing the same thing with AIs. like, I really prefer Claude. If it can't get the job done, I'll use Gemini or I'll use OpenAI.
I can't see people being like that they have four or five different AIs that they use on a regular basis.
DJ (59:37.11)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (59:38.639)
Now maybe there's a possibility something like Perplexity takes off that gives you access to a bunch of different models, but then you run into the same problem that it doesn't have enough context with every model that you're using.
Maybe they'll figure out a way to bring the context with every person or every model that you're using.
DJ (01:00:07.147)
So I've actually been exploring this. There are now new memory systems coming up with OpenClaw, Hermes Agent, and a bunch of these other OpenClaw knockoffs, where people are using, they're using rag systems, they're using other vector databases. But some people have started using,
Oh, what's the, it's the purple looking gym, the obsidian, the note taking app obsidian, because all it is is markdown files, but obsidian does a lot of stuff behind the scenes and links things together to form a knowledge graph. And it, it just kind of does that for you. So the AI is able to throw its markdown files in there, start linking things together. And all of a sudden you have a second brain.
Christopher Weeks (01:00:38.765)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (01:01:02.251)
for your AI agent, and then you can switch models in OpenClaw, you can switch models in Hermes agent, and it will always have that same knowledge base behind it. Now your model agnostic, you can use almost whatever you want, something local like Gemma 4, or something cloud-based like Olamas cloud models, ironically Gemma 4 again, or Kimi 2.5 or whatever.
DJ (01:01:30.347)
So we are getting to the point where like we're getting to these systems that will have strong persistent memory across models is what I'm trying to say.
Christopher Weeks (01:01:41.75)
Right, right. So how far off? You think it's already mostly here, or do think that's coming very shortly?
DJ (01:01:51.036)
We're definitely in the infancy, but this baby is growing very quickly, right? Especially because when open claw hit the scene, I think it hasn't even been a full six months, maybe three. I really, it, it flies by so quick. can't keep up. I know I've been running it for about two months myself and I'm pretty happy with it, but
DJ (01:02:17.202)
as like it was a turning point for everyone. Cause all of a sudden you had personal intelligence that you could run at home. And then that woke up and throw up it with when open AI bought it. And now you've got those two leading labs saying, how can we keep people in our ecosystem and not have them just go out? Because once you're, once you're in there, like I've thought about running the, um,
Anthropic app that's supposed to be very open claw like and, now they just came up with something that's supposed to be an innate end killer that I haven't messed with too much because I don't want to, that's the thing with me, right? I don't want to be beholden to a particular ecosystem. And I used to be that way with phones until, you know, I went full Apple because Apple could
Christopher Weeks (01:02:49.976)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (01:03:12.811)
glue everything together, but we don't have a company doing that in AI yet, at least not until OpenAI or Anthropic come up with something similar.
Christopher Weeks (01:03:24.332)
True, Yeah, probably the, think it's probably gonna be one of these two companies, either OpenAI or Anthropic that does that.
Christopher Weeks (01:03:38.56)
What about Google Gemini?
DJ (01:03:38.872)
I, you know.
DJ (01:03:43.106)
My, so I don't want to sleep on Google. Obviously I did that early on in their AI race. And, and I was very off. Like when they came out with, I think it was 2.5, cause the second gen model kind of sucked. And then they came out with 2.5 and it just blew the pants off everybody. And then three did the same thing. So they're really coming on strong now, but I don't want to say it's going to be open AI or entropic.
My guess would be if it was a U S company, it'd probably be open AI because now they're refocusing, right? They're not going as broad as they once were. They shut down sore. Like you mentioned a week or two ago, but don't factor out the Chinese labs. Like these Chinese labs are come, they're spinning up services and catching up with these, American frontier companies super fast. You Kimmy came out with Kimmy cloth.
Right. They're making it really easy to get into these software packages that you hear about all the time and kind of trying to lock you into their system too. Like they're coming out with coding packages now. They're coming out with, they're basically forking because everything's open source. Like we said earlier, they're, they're forking a lot of the open source software to make their own coding packages or coding CLI solutions. And they're just catching up.
based on open source software that's being released by the community and because it's open, they can, but their models are open too. Like anyone can run them.
DJ (01:05:22.204)
I would say don't sleep on the Chinese models. They could very well, they could very well catch up quickly and start to own the market.
Christopher Weeks (01:05:30.07)
Right, right.
DJ (01:05:33.084)
What's your take?
Christopher Weeks (01:05:34.636)
I'm more interested in... I think we're gonna see some really powerful, lightweight, very efficient models. I think that stuff's kind of the future where we're headed. There's a chance we're gonna get these world models. I'm very curious what comes out of that.
DJ (01:05:52.232)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (01:06:02.112)
I listened to a researcher say in five years he thinks all the discussion isn't going to be LLMs anymore. It's going to be these world models that are able to interpret data that is right in front of you and do things. I'm very curious what Apple is going to do with Google Gemini's model, their white listed version of it that is going to
probably get it announced at WWDC and we're gonna see whether they can put something together that actually works and functions. On the flip side, not related to AI so much, iOS 26.5 is rumored to come out next week that has RCS encryption for Android messaging.
DJ (01:06:40.914)
Mm-hmm.
DJ (01:06:53.073)
Nice.
Christopher Weeks (01:07:00.229)
or as yeah there's a lot of confusion as to whether it supports the latest RCS profile standard for replies and
image quality and what it can do with video and you know all this stuff which I wouldn't be surprised if Apple just did the bare bones and they were like if you want an even better experience than what you get here switch over to those blue bubbles and enjoy it.
DJ (01:07:38.005)
All right. Yeah. You want it on all your devices? Well, those messages do flow over all devices, which finally, but I know it. Yeah. I know what you're saying.
Christopher Weeks (01:07:41.195)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (01:07:46.752)
Yeah.
Right, mean it's just, it's just such a pain in the ass that if I turn on my VPN at the gym when I'm exercising, if I message anybody that's SMS, it started on RCS and now it's instantly SMS because the protocol doesn't support VPNs.
DJ (01:08:10.146)
really? I was unaware of that. Hmm.
Christopher Weeks (01:08:11.176)
Yeah, yeah, doesn't support VPNs currently. So helping you have 26.5 when it gets released also doesn't support VPNs. know, iMessage supports VPNs like crazy. You know, you think it would just all interpret it as data, it's all encrypted, so why does it matter?
DJ (01:08:34.215)
I, so to that point, I do agree with you. I will say I have tried using several services in the last probably two or three years and they are very anti VPN. If you're on a VPN, a lot of apps are starting to just not connect anymore, which I get why they would block it because of abuse. And you know, if they, if they say you can only visit it from the U S
Christopher Weeks (01:08:51.284)
Yeah. Hmm.
DJ (01:09:00.711)
and no one outside of that, like there's ways to get around it. Streaming apps can have issues with it as well, right? Like you can say I'm in Japan and watch Japan Netflix, but it's just bothersome because it feels like you're taking away something that...
was like, it's fundamental security to the internet because it was bolted on because the internet was not developed securely in the beginning. It didn't have to be, but now you're taking that away from us. So you're saying, I want your ISP to say, see everything you're sending me, right? Like I'm not letting you use the security layer you bought and paid for if you want to access my service. It's just bothersome.
Christopher Weeks (01:09:47.815)
Right.
Yeah, it's crazy. Like even Apple's own service that they use for to anonymize Safari only in your iCloud subscription, Cloudflare operates it and there are websites that go to where Cloudflare will block it because they want the actual IP addresses.
DJ (01:10:12.454)
irony
Christopher Weeks (01:10:14.793)
It's crazy. Yeah.
DJ (01:10:17.786)
did see this and wanted to bring it up. Ads in Apple Maps is coming.
Christopher Weeks (01:10:23.177)
Yep, yep. I mean, Google's done this forever. Do not, you know. Yeah, yeah.
DJ (01:10:30.404)
Yeah, I use Google. I see it occasionally. kind of, it feels native enough to not be bothersome, but you still know it's an ass.
Christopher Weeks (01:10:39.177)
As long as it is... Do you think Apple's gonna do it the same way where it's not obtrusive driving you bonkers?
DJ (01:10:47.376)
See, I don't know. remember when Apple came out with that. You remember they started an ad network for a very short time where they were going to allow developers to bring it into their app. And they were like, these ads will be very well done, very tasteful. It lasted for a little while, maybe a year or two. And then they yanked it because it wasn't very successful, but it also was not elegant. It was very happy. In my mind, it was very half baked.
Christopher Weeks (01:11:09.885)
Right.
DJ (01:11:16.986)
I just, hope that we don't get a replay of that in, in maps. Like it's some big gaudy pop-up or some banner at the bottom or top of your driving directions when you're just trying to get somewhere. Imagine if it was in car play or how it's going to be in car play.
Christopher Weeks (01:11:33.575)
Yeah, yeah, that could be a mess. On that note, we've hit an hour and 10 minutes and I've done my best to try to limit this thing to an hour. I think our hour is the right amount of time for people that are...
DJ (01:11:37.926)
I don't care for it.
Christopher Weeks (01:11:54.749)
Well, anybody that listens to this all the way through, you've got my sincerest thanks for an hour of your life devoted to us. And we'll do better each week to try to make this more entertaining for you. DJ, anything else you want to say before we sign off?
DJ (01:12:14.765)
I would say listen to this on at least one and a half or two times speed. will only be half an hour and we'll sound like chipmunks. It'd be great.
Christopher Weeks (01:12:22.483)
There we go. There we go. So on that note, good night everybody and thanks for watching or listening.
DJ (01:12:30.361)
Night.