Clydesdale Media Podcast

We meet Lacey as she heads the the Master's CrossFit Games.  What are her goals, How long has she been doing CrossFit, What made her jump into the competition aspect of CrossFit.

What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

I was born to kill it.

I was meant to win.

I am down and willing,

so I will find a way.

It took a minute,

now it didn't happen right away.

When it get hot in the kitchen,

you decide to stay.

That's how it win us, man.

Stick a fork in the head of a man.

what is going on everybody

welcome to the Clydesdale

media podcast my name is

Scott Switzer I'm the

Clydesdale we are so stoked

to be able to profile all

the well not all but a lot

of the athletes from the

2024 legends masters

crossfit games and I have

with me tonight Lacey

Truelove Lacey how's it

going hey good thank you so

much for having me I'm

excited to be here a little

bit nervous but excited

Nothing to be nervous about.

We're just going to,

we're just going to chill

and have a good time.

Yeah.

How many times do you get asked?

Is that your real last name?

Oh, so funny.

Like all the time, all the time.

Everybody thinks it's a fake name,

but born and raised with it.

Never changed it.

Got married.

Never changed it.

Wow.

Yeah.

It's all mine.

It is very unique.

It is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's different.

I don't know the background of it.

I've always wanted to do one of those, um,

Big 23 and me to see where it came from,

but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

One day.

It's funny.

I'm friends with Ariel

Loewen and her maiden name is Armstrong.

Okay.

She always wanted to keep

that because her IG after her name,

she put

the arm, the strong arm, right?

And getting married,

she didn't want to take

Dylan's name because she

didn't want to lose that emoji.

Yeah.

You know,

I've always found it so strange

when you get married.

I got married, got divorced, kept my name,

thankfully, throughout the entire thing.

But it's always so strange

to me when a woman gets

married that she just has

to give up her name that

she's had her entire life.

And so it's

It's funny you say Ariel's

maiden name is Armstrong.

My children are true love

Armstrong hyphenated.

So they have the best of both worlds.

So now they can use the emoji.

They can.

They can.

Thank you, Ariel.

I will use that for my children one day.

There you go.

I've been I was researching

you today and I learned one

that you were doing Irish dance at two.

Oh my gosh.

Hilarious.

Well,

so I was from a very small town in

Strathroy.

They had no real sports

really at the time when I

had first started.

So my mom was like,

I have to put her in something.

So Irish dance was just this

little thing that they,

they had going on in a

teeny tiny little nook.

And she threw me in there.

They had a little gymnastics

class that followed.

There was maybe 10 girls in it.

It was tiny, tiny, tiny.

So yeah, Irish dance.

And that was not your

passion because you left

that to go to gymnastics.

Yeah, I did.

Yeah.

It's so funny.

My mom and I were talking

about that story just yesterday.

Um, I was so little,

I was so little at the time

when she had put me in it

and it was such a short lived experience,

but the girls who followed me were,

were gymnasts and I would

always just watch them.

I was so mesmerized by the

gymnast that followed.

And they were also very, very young.

They weren't like,

they were no Simone Biles by any means.

But they were just, you know,

walking on a low beam,

doing some cartwheels and somersaults.

But I guess I found that

more appealing than

tiptoeing around and doing

some high kicks for the Irish dance.

Yeah,

we actually have really good friends

whose daughter,

I think she still does

Irish dance in college.

Oh, really?

Wow.

Yeah, like she took it the whole way.

Yeah.

They're actually quite amazing to watch,

really.

The dress alone was, like,

extremely expensive.

Yes.

Yeah.

Maybe one day I'll give it a go again.

We'll see.

There you go.

Just for the dress.

Yeah, just for the dress alone.

So you do gymnastics.

It said in the article I

read that you wanted to be

an Olympic gymnast.

You wanted to be Spokehouse.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, much older than Simone Biles.

But yeah, I don't know.

At a young age,

I just knew that I wanted

to be excellent.

And so whatever sport that I

decided to go into,

the goal was to go as far

as I could go in it.

And so with the sport of gymnastics,

the Olympics,

that's the peak of success

within that sport.

So yeah, at a very young age,

I knew that it was either all or nothing,

really all or nothing.

I can relate to that because

I was a swimmer growing up.

Okay.

And the, the,

the only place you can end to

be the best is the Olympics.

Exactly.

Exactly.

And I realized in high

school that that was a

fleeting thought in my mind.

Right.

And then it just became,

can I pay for college?

Yep.

Right.

And then, you know, which is,

I know you hit that point, too,

where you realized the

Olympic dream was not there.

Yeah, yeah.

At such a young age, at 15,

like 15 years young, you realize,

you know what?

My life is not going to

amount to what I want it to

within this sport.

And so we made a decision to

switch sports.

But it's one of those sports,

gymnastics especially,

we know this about the sport,

that it's a young sport.

If you don't have it,

you know pretty quickly.

I'm not necessarily sure if

it was I didn't have it or

I didn't have the means to

succeed within the sport

because what we had

available within my city

and slightly outside of the

city just wasn't enough to get me there.

I do think I would have had

to have probably gone to

the States in order to make that happen.

At 15 years old, we weren't

We weren't going to move to

the States to do it.

It's not like I was going to

school or anything.

So that wasn't in the cards.

So we made a quick switch to

a different sport.

More towards my end of the spectrum,

and that is you were diving into a pool.

I was, yeah.

So gymnastics,

just instead of landing on our feet,

we landed on our head instead.

It's so funny you say that.

I was just watching a

YouTube video maybe two weeks ago,

and there's an influencer

who is a mega high diver from Canada.

Okay, yep.

Her name escapes me.

And then there's a gymnast

who was a gymnast at UCLA,

and they both have channels

where they try different sports.

Right, okay.

They came together,

and the gymnast tried diving,

and the diver tried gymnastics.

Right, okay.

And it was so cool.

The one thing they said is

the rotation was the

hardest part because in one sport,

you land on your feet.

In the other sport, you land on your head.

Yes.

Yes.

I would think watching that,

I would think the gymnast

would be thrown off far

more than the diver because in diving,

we would land on our feet.

In all of the buildups to the head entry,

you would do the foot entry

at some point.

And so it's a little bit, obviously,

in gymnastics,

the goal is never to land on your head.

So one of the sports has

access to the other side of the spectrum.

It's funny.

I think I used to coach a

girl when I was in Houston.

Her name was Ellie Smart.

She's a Red Bull cliff diver.

Sounds awfully familiar as

to the YouTube channel that

you're saying.

I just saw her put up a

video the other day of her trying.

maybe it was skateboarding.

It may have been skateboarding,

but just a one-off sport, but just a very,

very talented Red Bull cliff diver.

That sport is just, that's wild.

It takes it to the next, the next level.

Yeah.

This girl is a Red Bull cliff diver.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

One of the girls I trained with in,

in Houston, she,

she competes for the

Netherlands in Red Bull

cliff diving and is just loving it.

Yeah.

I I've bungee jumped in my life.

But the older I get,

the harder like that big

heights thing is.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

It's you have a respect for

life as you age.

You respect your time on this earth.

And so as you age, it's like,

I don't know about that.

When you're younger,

you just have this complex

of nothing can hurt me.

And so you age out of that, I think.

when I was in high school,

I was at a swimming meet

and they had a diving well beside,

and there was a girl

practicing on the 10 meter platform.

Yeah.

And she missed a dive and

smacked like the water hard.

They pulled her out on a stretcher.

Yep.

Then my buddies were like, Hey,

let's go off the 10 meter.

Let's do that.

Hey, let's go do that.

Yeah.

Don't sign me up.

Yeah.

I've had one of those,

one of those occurrences where,

where I had to be pulled out,

taken to hospital.

It was a whole ordeal.

It's a scary sport.

It's risky.

So what, what did you dive?

I was a 10 meter platform.

That was my specialty in

university because we were,

I was in the States.

And so it was the NCAA circuit.

We did all of them.

So we did the one meter springboard.

We did three meter,

we did synchro and my

specialty was 10 meter platform.

And so, um,

Yeah, there was a lot of smacks.

Let me tell you,

there was a lot of smacks.

It's scary.

There's a lot of fear

involved with that sport.

I know they've gotten better

with bubblers to break the

surface tension as much as

you can and all that stuff.

But it's cool that you were

a 10-meter specialist

because that even lends

itself even more to

CrossFit and that your

gymnastics background

because a lot of times you

start on your hands.

Yes, yes.

Yeah, so not just with gymnastics,

doing a lot of handstand work.

I actually got much better

with my handstand work when

I went into diving because

the difference in

gymnastics is you can fall down,

but you're just going to

kick up to handstand and

then land on your feet.

And diving, when you're on the platform,

you're 33 feet up in the air, 10 meters.

So we kick up into an arm,

they call it an arm stand

instead of a handstand.

You kick up, you have to hold it,

show the judges control and

then proceed to do your dive.

So you're kind of forced

into a situation where you

have to have that body

control in order to hold it.

And if you don't execute it properly,

then you've fallen off the

platform and then you're

just trying to survive at that point.

Fallen 33 feet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Crazy.

It's amazing what as young

individuals we will do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

Like I said, just fearless at a,

at a certain age.

I remember just not,

not having fear on the 10

meter platform until I

started to learn the big, big dives,

like the Olympic dives.

And, um, there were,

there were a few of them

where I would literally see

my life flash before my eyes.

And it was one of those, like,

we're going to survive.

We're not going to survive.

We'll find out kind of things,

but we went for it every time.

And, uh,

It's not dissimilar to

Olympic weightlifting, I always say.

Your body moves so quickly

that it's just the neural

pathways are carved.

Your body knows what to do.

Your brain knows what to do.

There's still fear involved.

But at the end of the day,

you're going to end up

landing on your head.

Olympic weightlifting, very quick.

Your body naturally knows

what to do because you've

put it through the movement

pattern so many times.

that it ends up pretty decent.

There's a couple of

technical flaws along the way,

but you're always going to land it.

Yeah.

My sister was a diver.

So I watched a lot of it.

Right.

And she was amazing.

Like as, as a tiny, tiny girl,

she was like eighth in our state,

like up against people much

older than her.

And,

and then she had a couple accidents

where she hit the board,

hit her head on the bottom of the pool,

hit her face on the bottom of the pool.

And then that,

that really like slowed her

progress way down.

Of course.

Yeah.

That that's a bit of trauma.

When something like that happens,

it's so hard to get past it.

I've seen it happen many times.

And it's something that

stays with you for every

single dive that follows.

So I would, yeah,

I would understand how that

would deteriorate pretty

quickly after that point.

So you were good enough to

make Olympic trials in diving?

Yeah, yeah.

I went in 2012, 2008, and 2012.

So here you are as a gymnast

wanting to be an Olympian,

have to give up on the

dream in just four short years where I,

I'm not doing the math well,

all of a sudden you're at

another Olympic trials for a different,

completely different sport.

And at least you have a shot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was wild.

My first, so retired from gymnastics,

retired at the ripe age of 15.

And then started diving, um,

just because honestly,

just because the sport is so similar,

I picked it up,

obviously quite quickly

qualified for my first

nationals after the first

competition that I had gone to.

And it all just moved very, very quickly.

And so I think because it moved so quickly,

I recognized immediately like, okay,

the Olympics is not off the

table for this sport.

So we trained really, really hard.

2008, we went to trials.

Four more years, we were like, okay,

next one.

Next one will be okay.

2012 came up.

We missed it.

That one was a hard one to miss.

We trained really hard for it.

There's girls in the sport

who have done it for a lifetime.

So whilst I had done

gymnastics for such a long time,

they had started in the

pool the same time I had

started gymnastics.

So that experience was just

far more robust than what I

had even just from the gymnastics alone.

But the experience was,

it was something that I

carry with me today into CrossFit.

Yeah.

I never got to go to the

Olympic trials in swimming,

but I did go to the Olympic

trials like two months ago.

Here in the States.

Yeah.

It was only like two hours from my house.

Okay.

It was the coolest, coolest experience.

Just being a spectator.

I cannot even imagine.

It's one thing to watch it on TV,

but then to be in the same place,

area as the athletes to see

how they move through space,

to see how they warm up,

how focused they are.

Swimming is a very different sport.

Those athletes are, um,

they're so dialed in.

I remember in university,

the swimmers were just at competitions.

They were like laser focused.

They always knew down to the,

down to the second or the

millisecond what their time

was going to be in their swims.

And I was always just so amused by

the detail that they put into their,

into their swimming,

regardless of the distance.

It could be a sprint.

It could be a long distance

and they knew exactly what

time they were going to get.

It was just wild.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's probably was my

problem is there was a

little variance there.

I could never figure out the

perfect pacing.

Right.

Like I had a private coach

we had and I could just

never hit that perfect pacing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I either went out too hot or

I didn't go out hot enough.

What was your specialty?

So for most of my career, it was distance,

200 free, 500 free.

In college, it was 1,000 and 1,650.

Okay.

1650.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yep.

That's, that's a good track.

And then my,

my favorite time is for a

brief moment in my career as an IMR.

And I love that.

I wish I could have done

that much longer in my career.

I think I would have been great at it.

Yeah.

Just a little more variety.

I just missed nationals by

like a half a second.

No.

And I,

and that's with not doing it my

whole career.

Like,

Yeah.

That's a, that's a tough one.

A half second.

And then you go through your mind and you,

you think of all of the

areas in which we could

have gained that half second.

That's always so tough.

I was a great butterfly or a

great backstroker and a great freestyler.

My breaststroke was atrocious.

Yeah.

There's so much technique.

There's so much technique in it.

Honestly, so much.

I've been swimming.

I'm not a swimmer, not a swimmer,

never going to say I'm a swimmer,

but I've been swimming in

preparation for the games.

Just at a YMCA, a local YMCA,

trying to do a thousand

meters of just like a front crawl.

And so I've been doing there

and back front crawl and

then breaststroke, front crawl,

front crawl, breaststroke.

And there's actual swimmers

next to me doing

butterflies and backstroke

and just smooth, just so smooth.

And here I am just trying to survive,

really, just trying to survive.

But it's a tough sport.

It's very, very humbling.

I wish CrossFitters would

just learn backstroke

because it's the best

recovery stroke because you

don't have to plan your breathing.

Your face is exposed at all

times and it's faster than breaststroke.

If a CrossFitter could just

figure that stroke out,

they would be so much

better in the water.

Okay, I'm taking that.

I'm taking it.

I'll go crawl, crawl, backstroke.

Taking the notes.

Going to use it.

One,

your arms are moving in the opposite

direction than they are

when you're doing front crawl.

Right.

So it's loosening back.

It's breaking up the lactic acid.

And your face is exposed the

entire time so you can breathe.

Okay.

Well, let's give it a go.

We'll see how it goes.

It's funny you say that.

I was just talking to one of

my teammates the other day.

We were laughing about Wadapalooza.

We had done some swim

training for Wadapalooza.

And then we get there.

and end up just swimming

with our head above water, no technique,

survival mode only.

Everything that we had

trained had gone out the

window because at that

point after worm thrusters and burpees,

it was just keep my head

above water so I don't drown.

All that training.

Yeah, yeah.

It's fight or flight.

Yes.

Yeah,

you do weird things that you don't

think you would do in

stressful situations.

Yes, yes, absolutely.

Well, I try to keep these to 30 minutes.

We're already at 20,

and I haven't even got into

your CrossFit.

All right, let's do it.

So we're going to try to

speed this up so I can be

respectful of your time.

But,

but I do have one more question and

that is you're from Canada,

which I don't even think

we've said on here.

Yeah.

And at a point you made the

decision to come to the

States to go to college at

the university of Houston.

Yes.

That is,

you said in this article that that

is frowned upon in the

sports world of Canada.

Yeah.

Go to the States.

I did not know that.

Can you,

cause I'm a co-host with Carolyn

Prevost on and she left

Canada to go to the

university of Wisconsin.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's I can't say,

I don't want to blanket

statement it and say that

it's for all of the sports.

Diving is very big in Canada.

We're very well known for

high quality diving and,

And so they like to keep it

very close to home and

develop the athletes themselves.

And so the idea of an

athlete going to the States,

they've lost control of

that athlete at that point.

So, you know, when,

when I say frowned upon,

maybe not frowned upon,

but not overly encouraged

to step outside of the

training framework that

dive Canada has built out.

So it's, yeah, it's, um,

it's a tough decision for an athlete,

but opportunity is opportunity.

And so if there's an

opportunity to get a

university education while diving with.

At the university of Houston,

I had the opportunity to

dive with Russian Olympians and just,

you know,

level up my diving by putting

myself in an environment

where I was forced to watch

the best in the world train.

And I got to train with the

best coach in the world.

She's at the Olympics right

now and just won an Olympic silver medal.

So it was a huge opportunity.

and not something that I was

ever going to pass up.

Well,

and I guess like the weird thing in

my head was you don't want

to piss people off in a judge sport.

Yes.

Yes.

It's a tight knit community.

Yes.

And do you, you don't have to answer this.

Did it ever affect,

do you think it ever

affected your judging at

like Olympic trials?

Um,

Possibly.

Yeah.

Possibly.

Yeah.

It's yeah.

Judge sports are judge sports.

Right.

And I think when the judges

are all within that tight knit community,

you're going to have biases always.

And so there's certain areas

that excel and they have

additional funding and they have support.

And so those athletes often

get highlighted.

And if you're outside of that,

even within Canada, it's very difficult,

um, to be viewed in the same way.

So stepping outside of the

country and then coming

back into the country to compete,

it was a bit tough.

It was a bit tough.

Yeah.

Humans are humans and

they're going to have biases.

Of course.

It's only natural.

Yeah.

So, so you qualify for the,

we're going to skip way ahead now.

Let's do it.

You qualify for the CrossFit games.

You're a rookie.

Yeah.

Um,

Are you, I,

so I don't know your exact age.

Are you just turning into the masters?

I'm 35.

I'm 35.

So this is, yeah,

I will be the first year of, of masters.

Yeah.

So this was your first

opportunity to jump at this

plan all along.

No, was it the plan?

Oh my gosh.

No, I was at, um, so funny.

I was at Waterpalooza.

With one of my friends,

her name is Meg Garrett,

who also qualified in the

women's category.

She'll be going for 40 to 44, I believe.

She looked at me when we

were at Waterpalooza and she said, Lace,

like you could qualify for the games.

Do you know this?

And I said, Meg, you know.

I don't know.

I don't know if that's actually possible.

It's always been a dream,

always been a dream.

And so when she said that,

it just started the wheels turning.

And my coach was like, yeah,

I've known this all along.

This has been something that

I've always known you were able to do.

But for me,

because the games is like the

Olympics of CrossFit, amazing,

let's get there one day at

35 years old after having two kids.

owning a business,

starting a brand new

business within the year,

I didn't think that now

would be the time to do it.

So was it in the plan?

Probably in the master plan, yes.

But did I think it would

happen on the first go at being masters?

No, I didn't think so.

So it's kind of come out, not come out,

but

It's been revealed to us

that a lot of athletes that

are competing in the elite

division have the same

background that you have.

Gymnastics and diving seem

to be a really good mix for

body awareness or whatever

it is that gets you to that elite level.

So you came in with that behind you.

You've been doing this since 2014.

It's been a long time.

Your first Open was 2014.

Yes.

So 10 years into CrossFit,

you make it to the Games.

But your quarterfinals, you finish 40th.

Yeah.

Then,

I don't know what happened in the 20s,

between quarters and semis,

you finish 5th.

I finished 5th, yeah.

Skill level go up.

did the skill level go up?

Um, I, nothing changed.

My skill level didn't go up.

The workouts were beautiful

workouts for me.

I will,

I will be fair and honest when the

workout started to come out.

I was like, Oh, Oh, okay.

Another one.

Yeah, we can do this.

We can definitely do this.

And as they released,

it just became quite

apparent that this was, um,

Something that we could not

just qualify for,

but put ourselves in a

pretty good position going

into the games themselves.

And I have to say,

I've had a lot of help to

get to the point that I've gotten to.

I have an amazing programmer I work with,

Mammoth, and my coach, Billy Gooding,

is phenomenal.

We've worked together for

such a long time.

I've had some teammates that

have just been phenomenal.

The environment in which we train is

sets all elite athletes up for success.

And so I think it's been a perfect storm.

Really,

semifinals was a perfect storm for me.

So stepping into that and

executing the workouts how

I did has given me a lot of

confidence going into the games.

That's for sure.

Well, I'd say you finished fifth.

That would have qualified

you under the old rules.

Where they only take top 10.

Yeah.

You made it by a long shot

under the rules.

Yeah.

Do you train at your own

facility or do you train at

an affiliate or.

Yeah.

So our facility is a bit different.

So, um, I am an owner at the facility,

so it's team London hybrid

training center.

And we have Team London CrossFit,

the affiliate within the training center.

We have a hybrid program that we run.

We have a High Rocks

affiliate that we run in there as well.

We have a weightlifting club that runs.

It's a registered

weightlifting club as well.

So there's a lot of

excellence under one roof.

And what we've created

within our program is we

have Team London Academy.

So the Academy is a lot of

elite athletes and a lot of ex-athletes.

So a lot of football players,

track athletes who have

retired from their respective sports,

not dissimilar to when I

retired from diving,

who have come in and said,

I'm done with that sport,

but I still want to be

excellent at a sport.

And we all know that

CrossFit is so accessible.

And if you have a sport background,

stepping into it,

they'll have strengths in

different avenues because

they come from different sports.

But when you take

all of these elite athletes

and you put them under one

roof and have them train together,

magic happens.

And so that's the

environment that we've

created within our program.

And, um, it's,

it's nice because I'm a

product of that program.

Um,

and being an owner of the gym and a

creator of the program

itself has been such a

beautiful process to go

through wearing all

different kinds of hats along the way.

So.

How do you balance all of that?

How do I balance it all?

You're also a mom of two.

Yeah, I'm a single mom of two.

I have a lot of determination.

I'm stubborn.

You asked my coach.

I'm very, very stubborn.

I know what I want and I will work very,

very hard to get there.

Like I said before,

when a two-year-old decides...

that they want to go to the Olympics.

I think it's,

it was pretty clear that at a young age,

there was vision.

I've always had a lot of

vision and determination to get there.

So, you know,

the kids get to watch me do

it and that's just

additional motivation and

additional drive.

And there's so many people

within the affiliate and

the training center that we

run that get to be a part

of the process with me.

So it's, I've, I've always said,

it's not me doing it.

It's all of us doing it together.

How old are your kids?

My daughter is two and my son is four.

So they're at that wild age.

Yeah, they're busy.

So it's almost good that you

have a playground for them

to hang out at when,

when mom's doing some work.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They,

they go wild when they're in the gym.

Usually I'll,

I'll only bring them in

really when it's off hours

because we have over 500

members at our gym.

It's very large.

It's a 20,000 foot square foot facility.

So it's very, very large.

So they'll have free reign of, of the gym.

I try to keep it when it's quiet,

I'll keep them in there when it's quiet,

but they love to, they love to watch.

I don't think they quite

understand yet what's happening,

but knowing that one day

they will understand is just, um,

It's something that I hold

really close when I'm training.

So, like, I'm super impressed by you.

Thank you.

One, you're the owner of a 500-member gym,

which is beyond impressive.

You picked up diving in a year,

made it to university,

made it to Olympic trials.

You did gymnastics forever.

This isn't a one-and-done

thing with CrossFit and the games, right?

Is it a one and done thing?

I hope not.

No, it's so funny.

Everybody's always afraid of aging up.

We're afraid of aging in general,

but I've seen this now as

this is a start point.

This is just year one.

You know,

when they released the new age

group of what, 70, 70 plus, I'm like,

okay, we're going to keep going.

We have a full lifetime of

games opportunity and just

encouraging so many people

to continue training.

Like there is,

there is opportunity beyond

the age of 30.

And so we have to train,

we have to change the way that we train,

but if we can just keep our mindset very,

very focused on what the

end game is and what the goal is,

it's just a start point 35

to 39 start point.

So yeah, this is, this is year one.

I'm hoping to go as long as

I can physically go while managing.

being a mom and business

owner and being excellent at all of it.

So this is my last question.

And this is,

this has gone nowhere where I planned.

And those are my favorite interviews.

So you're a business owner and a coach,

and I can tell that you love it.

And you speak like a coach.

Thank you.

What gives you more pleasure

and satisfaction?

Your success or your client's success?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, it'll always be theirs.

It'll always be theirs.

It's a different experience.

I think it's such a

different experience to...

I feel like all coaches say

the same thing to see their

athletes or their members.

You know,

we have elite athletes and the

elite athletes are wonderful.

They're spectacular.

They they're so driven.

They know what they want to do.

Then you have your gym

member base and a lot of

them come in with different

life experiences and have

no idea what they're capable of.

They have no idea what's

actually possible.

And so to watch them do things and

surprise themselves and feel

this sense of pride and joy

and what they're accomplishing.

I don't think there's any

better feeling than seeing that,

than seeing an average

everyday person put themselves in a scary,

scary position to be very

vulnerable and surpass any

expectations that they ever

had for themselves.

We, yeah, it's,

It's such a beautiful thing to be a coach,

honestly.

So hands down,

hands down what the members

are able to accomplish.

So last follow-up, and that is,

how hard is it for you to

be selfish enough to make

sure you're prepared to the

best of your ability going

into the CrossFit Games?

Yeah, it's hard.

It's really hard.

It's an emotional battle.

I'll be honest.

It's an emotional battle.

You feel like

This will be pure honesty.

You feel like you're not

doing enough in every category in life.

So trying to be the best mom I can be.

I'm trying to be the best

business and partner that I can be.

I'm trying to be the best

athlete that I can be.

And so sometimes when you're

trying to do all of it at the same time,

you feel like you're just

mediocre at everything

instead of excelling where

you truly want to excel.

There is a level of acceptance in that.

There is a level of a little

bit of guilt in it.

But at the end of the day,

I always look for the positives.

My children get to see this happen.

The members get to be a part of this.

The business gets to be a part of this.

We all get to grow together.

And I said, I said to my mom the other day,

you know,

it's not always rainbows and

butterflies getting to

train for the games.

It's not because you can, you know,

I've been lucky enough to

be able to do this.

I can physically do this.

I can mentally do this.

Doesn't mean that it's always the most,

you know, exciting experience.

It's exciting, but man, it is hard.

Training this much is very, very hard.

It's very hard.

Is it worth it?

Absolutely.

But it is, it's challenging for sure.

Are you taking a lot of people with you?

I'm taking my coach,

just my coach and I. Yeah.

Yeah.

It'll be,

I think it'll be exactly what I

need it to be.

It'll be exactly what it should be.

We've been working really hard,

he and I together for such a long time.

And so it'll be,

it'll be what it's meant to be.

I think.

Yeah.

Cool.

Yeah.

Well,

I want to thank you so much for doing

this.

It's been a treat getting to know you.

I will be there.

We,

we have negotiated full access to do a

full behind the scenes

masters CrossFit games.

So Ellie Hiller and myself

will be chatting with the

athletes in the back and

capturing as much of that

as we can and putting out

episodes of a documentary following.

That's amazing.

Good.

Okay.

Well, I'll get to meet you in person then.

So that will be lovely.

You will.

And everybody that is listening,

thank you so much for that.

We will see everybody next

time on the Clydesdale Media Podcast.

Thank you all so much.

Thank you guys.