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Hosts Ryan (Canada) and returning guest Drew (Florida) kick off a two-part deep dive into Stone Temple Pilots' iconic discography, starting with their explosive 1992 debut Core—a multiplatinum grunge-era powerhouse produced by Brendan O'Brien that bridged hair metal aggression with alternative rock hooks, featuring Scott Weiland's versatile vocals, the DeLeo brothers' riff-heavy guitars, and Eric Kretz's driving drums—while debating its misunderstood "grunge copycat" label, controversial lyrics, and crowning the "worst" original full-band track from the classic 12-song lineup.
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good morning hey there can you hear me I can I can you me yeah very good hey cheers
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to the coffee this morning oh yes I appreciate you uh doing an early recording it benefits myself my family
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to not in a bad way but in a good way just to knock this out for thinging so I can carry on with my family activities
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so thank you any plans today uh nothing major nothing major just clean up take
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care of the family maybe uh relax for a little bit before I go back out in the field for a week with the recruits again
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another busy week ahead of me fair enough Well everybody's got to work right I think that's the idea behind
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this great country of Canada and the US I think we're supposed to work for our money I read that somewhere but I could
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be wrong we could be completely off base about this perhaps we should just blow the whole thing up and start over right
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well some people want to happy Sunday morning yeah to you as well anything you want to say before
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before we start no I just want to reiterate how much I liked the last episode and how well that turned out
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appreciate you keep asking me back on hey it was it was fun yeah if you're listening to this episode right now and
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you haven't heard that episode where Drew and I talk about higher beings it was actually the episode before this one
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so go check it out in the feed and uh yeah it might uh blow your mind or your soul whatever you have
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there we still haven't figured that out that that's the whole problem we don't know we have no idea what's going on
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all right well here we go welcome to the worst of the best
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podcast you wanted the best well they didn't freaking make it so here's what
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you get from Canada and Florida Ryan and Drew
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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welcome to the worst of the best podcast I'm your host Ryan and with me again today multiple returning guest host Drew
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how you doing doing very well Ryan happy to get up early and do this one with you our recording schedule is a little off
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thewall sometimes good to talk about some of these topics I I don't remember how many of the musical themed EP EP
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that I've been on a lot of times we discuss these varying range of top 10
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lists and sometimes Adventures into the scientific the philosophical the hilarious but here we are talking about
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music I think that's how we originally met we talked about thirde Eye Blind right yeah that's right it's exactly
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right if you're a Third Eye Blind fan or you're a Drew fan and you haven't heard
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you haven't heard Drew breakdown third ey blind we did a two-parter on that band and one of our more successful
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episodes very strong fan base yeah that was a lot of fun that's how we met we met on the third ey blind I guess
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Facebook page Fan group Reddit I believe I think you were sort of crowdsourcing
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for several people and I was one of them that was a heck of a good time we got to get that band back together again
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sometime Ryan yeah for sure there was great great bunch of characters that did yeah there was a few great characters on that episode people we never it was
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funny we all of us didn't know each other and we all did a pretty pretty fair job of running a podcast together
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without everyone knowing everybody but today this was again your pick this is the first music episode you've been on
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since that Third Eye Blind episode I asked you in a chat like hey let's do another music one together is there a
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band that you enjoy that I might enjoy too because we have a varying Taste of course and you mentioned in your
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plethora of bands that you picked you mentioned Stone Temple Pilots and I'm like hey that's easy I've been a fan
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since their debut album and indeed that is the discussion we're going to have today is their debut album or but what I
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want to say before we get into that is those who are listening because are Stone Temple pile fans welcome to the show this will be a part one of two and
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the next time we just talk about Stone Temple pods we're also going to cover their sophomore effort purple and that
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will be on another episode but today's episode will just be their core album
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and if you're coming on to this show because you are a Stone Temple Pilots fan you haven't heard any of my other episodes on this feed what we do is we
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take the best of something whatever the topic whatever the topic whatever the subject we take the best of it and then
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we just actually pick the worst because not everything is created equal you can't like everything the same that's an
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impossibility core is one of the best rock debut albums of all time for best
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selling influential for especially for the 9s it is an album that holds today
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it's from one of the better grung rock bands that came out from the '90s so that's where it falls into the best Drew
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and I independent of each other will at the end of talking about this album will pick what we feel is the worst song from
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their debut album core and the criteria is it cannot be a cover song from
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another band and all members of the band have to participate in the song so that's the gist of it drew did I miss
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anything about what the show is about I was trying to figure out that very last thing that you said every member of the
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band has to be featured I thought and and maybe maybe this has been rephrased
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over time probably I thought that there was actually a strict no
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instrumentals rule is that sort of what you're getting at when you say no instrumentals that means it doesn't
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include one of the members of the band and that's why am I understanding that correctly yeah because it's an easy pick
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the reason why I did that for uh albums when we go through albums of other episodes because it's kind of unfair to
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pick the singer's not singing so it's easy to say hey that's my least liked song on the album because not you know I
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don't hear the singer sing some people really like like instrumentals but an instrumental could be an easy pick to say that's the worst song on the album
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and another one would be a cover song cuz you say oh well it's just it's not even their song you know they did a good
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job and all that but it's not an original tune that that's basically it is or there are some other albums where
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I've done where yeah maybe there was no guitar or was just bass and drum or something I kind of like the idea that it's a band effort the whole album is a
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band effort so I want everyone to participate in whatever track that might be I think that's it fair enough fair
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enough I appreciate you flushing that out for us that's good to know going forward there are 12 tracks on this
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album did I get that right I hope so there been several re-releases of this album I think we're both going to be
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talking about and dealing with the Super Deluxe Edition I think this is the one that was re-released for the 25th
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anniversary did I get that right if you're tracking for those who are listening to chors we always go by what
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was the track listening upon its initial release so even though we're going to be playing clips from their super deluxe
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edition that got remastered so you'll be hearing remastered pieces from each song we'll play each song a little bit from
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each parts that we'd like but usually it's the intro maybe a solo here or there that's kind of what we do we don't
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play the whole track obviously because if you want to hear the whole song just go on iTunes or YouTube and listen to it
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we recommend that you do if youve never heard this album before or if it's a it could be a first time listen there are people who listen to the podcast through
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who don't know all the bands that we talk about and they actually enjoy our breakdown of the of the songs so anyways
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it's 12 tracks upon its initial release yes that's what we'll be covering what don't you first you talk about when you
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first quote unquote discovered or became a fan of Stone Temple PS I wanted to
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reflect back on what you were uh talking about in our uh in our online chat I did
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give you a wide assortment of bands that we could talk about I tried to spread
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them out over sort of when they got big and when they're came out I tried to
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give like a uh a spread out timeline for you to choose from now I think what you
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did was you chose the earliest band which sort of reflects uh where our
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musical interest cross over Stone Temple Pilot's first album was released on September 29th of
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1992 I was a babe the age of eight I think that you and I are going to have
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different ways of uh how we've initially explored this album and how we initially connected with it what the limitations
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may have been what were some of the factors that helped us to experience this album obviously at the age of eight
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I wasn't buying a lot of grunge rock albums with my meager savings at the
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time my exposure to these songs came over the couple of years that followed
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as they were heavily rotated rated on MTV the music videos were very very
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prevalent and popular as well as the local rock and roll St sttion in my hometown of Columbus Ohio the hits off
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of this album and as we'll get into even some of the non hits the uh songs that
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weren't even released as singles these got into the space that I was in almost
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involuntarily for several years there until I was able to early teen years
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really formulate what I wanted for music what I liked about music and what I was going to go out and seek for myself
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these songs were a part of my musical lingo even prior to that that I was very
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young when this album came out and I've since experienced it in different ways as I've grown I'm a little bit older
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than you uh you were 8 years old when this came that's funny I'm just trying to think when I was 8 years old it would have been 1983 that I turned eight some
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of the first albums that I was getting into in music was everything from Michael Jackson Duran Duran Van Halen
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Molly Crew Twist's sister you know those are the new the new albums the new bands back when I was 8 years old so when this
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rolled around I was already a CD buying tape cassette buying veteran I was
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almost 17 years old when this album dropped so I was quite heavily or kneee
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and just loving music loving Rock uh grung had just kind of exploded on the scene with Nirvana's never mind a short
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time before Pearl Jams 10 enjoyed those albums I actually had those albums and I even as a hair metal guy cuz I really
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was I was you know big into I hate the term hair metal but long-haired rock and roll or Hard Rock so like again Molly
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Crew Errol Smith ACDC these were bands I just loved and and still do and as a
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teenager I felt conflicted because I understood the grunge kind of kind of represented like oh no we're not going
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to wear makeup or costumes you know we're going to wear flannel shirts and we're going to be serious and solemn and
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you know and I love Pearl Jam but sometimes they pretentiousness kind of bugs me I enjoy their music and
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sometimes I just want to tell Eddie veter like calm down you're not saving the world at the end of it's just music and I enjoy a lot of their stuff I've
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seen them live and I'm I'm still a fan to this day and I just never to me music doesn't always have to be always have to
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be serious there can be serious songs and fun songs and serious messages and fun messages and so when Stone Temple
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came on they were kind of thrown into the grunge but I think un I think unfairly so and I think once we go
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through this album track by track there's a couple grungy or vocal sounds
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that sound similar to what the grunge you know sound garden and Eddie better at the time and and and Lane Stanley from Alison chain definitely the
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comparison was there because I was the in The Ether of the time but this is not
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a grunge album This is a rock album I completely agree my experience with
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Stone Temple Pilots initially was not really knowing which songs were Stone Temple Pilot songs and which songs were
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sound garden songs Nirvana songs Pearl Jam songs they did get mixed in and that's is part of the way that I was
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experiencing them I had to listen to the song on the radio and then uh wait for the DJ to tell me who that artist was
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yeah that's fair I had to sort of split these things apart probably for the first couple of years that I loved these
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songs as they would get played it may not have been completely clear to me you know who I was loving I was uh I was a
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fan of these types of bands the grunge bands that you mentioned the rock station that I listened to would mix in
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this music along with some of the late 80s things that you were talking about the Metallica the hair bands that was
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just all part of the what I considered the Rock and roll Scene It Came until later that I you know understood this
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band was from this sort of era and they are a hair metal band as much as you might hate that this band is from this
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era and they are crunge band and then bands that came a little bit later that I really came to love were the alt rock
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band alternative rock and that was the genre that they called that stone tole Pilots sort of bridged the gap between
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the hair metal the grunge into the alt Rock Stone Temple Pilots had some longevity to them the song
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played on the radio for years and years decades even after they were released
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sotile Pilots were actually still touring with some of the bands that got big in the late 90s perhaps most notably
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the LMP biscuits and the corns did you like those bands that came along later that were somewhat inspired by STP I did
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listen to limp biscuits yeah limp biscuits first two or were there two big albums what was it the nookie album3
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bill yeah was that was that name of the album was $3 B was the first album the
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one that had the George Michael cover on it oh no was the one after that the significant other yeah I I quite enjoyed
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those because Fred dur not to get on to will join us for our next episode where we cover uh Fred durst's two best albums
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for a while there I did have on heavy rotation in those two albums Chocolate Starfish and significant other I thought they were quite fun kind of again
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another redefining moment in music and I like music again that's fun and definitely LM biscuit had some fun hard
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hitting fun songs and back to St Temple Pilots That's what I like about this album is it came out after 10 it came
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out after never mind I was like oh wait a this is but this is fun this is kind
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of some fun and hard driving rock music let's go into it right now because we'll talk about the different sounds because
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sure I will admit and you have song number one I will admit that yes with the opening track Dead and Bloated this
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is where people might be saying oh it sounds grungy I agree so the opening track does kind of introduce the album
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in a grungy type way it sure does thank you for the pleasure of taking the first song on this album it is Dead and
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Bloated well it's a very repetitive song I've read some criticism of why it was
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chosen to kick off the album does it send the right signal it's just got this very very memorable couple of lines
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there I am smelling like a rose that somebody gave me on my birthday death bed and that might be the most memorable
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actual lyric of this album the music and the guitars and just the way that everything plays together creates a vibe
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that makes the lyrics not as important but in this song it is very very much a a Scott Wyland driven vocal performance
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I don't know how I became introduced to this song I don't
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know if it was played on the radio because it was not released as a single but I do remember at the age of 12 or 13
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like singing it to myself in the shower this is one that just pops into your head and you just wind up singing this
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to yourself altogether Dead and Bloated is not the best song the album probably not the worst but it is memorable to me
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from being introduced to it at a very young age I keep messing up his last name pronunciation so I got a video her how to pronounce it I think it is wand
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pronouncenames.com wiland it is wiland because you did it and i' and I've always said it wrong
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I've always I thought maybe we just have a discussion about it how are we going to say this guy's name we'll just stick to it right well because I am English
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and I admit that I think that the EI I I don't know why I would think yeah if you weigh something right weigh yeah yes
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that's EI so that's a sound so I've always said his name Scott Wayland but it is wiland okay my apologies to
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everyone okay here we go so dead and blood I totally agree with what you're saying it's that memorable moment we're going to play it I
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am my birthday death B I am smelling
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like a rose and some about gave me cuz I'm dead
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[Music]
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and I am smelling like a rose that somebody gave me I'm a birthday de
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[Music] b i Am smell like the rose if somebody
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gave me cuz I'm dead [Music]
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and so there's that very unique beginning going through a bullhorn you know yelling the lyrics and then it then
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the drummy kicks in and then the bullhorn goes away but the lyric or the singing is still kind of subdued and then on the third time it comes in full
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audio version of Scott's voice we're now hearing his voice for the first time with the band and but this song is
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deceiving because it doesn't represent in some ways the driving force of this
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album is it's it is kind of a slower Temple song It Doesn't Really pick up at
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all from this point it keeps the same drudge sludge grunge all the things that
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stal Pilots has been thrown into the category of of grunge yeah this song
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would be grunge I think this this would constitute a grunge song this is an Allison Chains meet sound garden type
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song this is um one of the interesting things that Scott Wyland does on this
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album I'm not sure if he was the first but the whole megaphone bullhorn type of
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thing prior to this had you known any rock artist to use this approach uh Mike
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Patton so he was doing it before Scott wi yeah yeah he was a yeah he was a megaphone guy megaphone I've certainly
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heard it since in going through some of the artists that Stone Temple Pilots have been compared to I noticed that on
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the album that Garden put out after this they utilized on Spoon Man actually oh
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right that's right and you hear that in the background the bullhorn everybody admits that he uses the bullhorn on this
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album but what I had heard was that on Dead and Bloated it's actually him yelling into guitar pickups I do know
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rock and roll artists like John Foreman from Switchfoot or other bands where they do that to make a different vocal
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sound I suppose would be yelling into the guitar pickups and that is what I heard about this song and how he got
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that sound this is a great opener because in many ways cuz it is memorable I think everyone when they hear those
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first two lines everyone's like oh here we go it's an oddly very simple effect
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clever enough and simple enough that it's memorable and everyone knows what's about to happen and the drums kick in
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and the song continues I'm going to show a little bit of the chorus here just so people can
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idea is natural I feel a
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wish your start to [Applause]
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run I'm thinking you
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[Music] SW so yeah very heavy guitar work there
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too like it's that's sludge and very heavy That's Heavy guitar work going on there I I think that you handled the
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analysis of the guitars a lot better than I do I definitely have a stronger connection to the lyrics usually but I
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think that you're right the guitars when they kick in the the Leo Brothers Dean
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and his brother Robert they really do shine on many of these tracks a nice
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relationship with Scott and his vocals a little bit of slower song in the sense of pace if you listening to this album
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for the first time you're like okay I okay what these guys are doing then their the second track on the album one
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of their more controversial tracks on the album and their first single every time I forget that this was their first
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single I'm reminded and that I'm always amazed that they would drop this as their first single not well because of
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the lyrical content and people didn't know who these guys were they wouldn't know that these guys are what their
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message is or who they are or at least the average person they had a fan base before this album came out of course but
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they did some songs on the moniker Mighty Joe Young and they had a fan base in the local area but Sex Type Thing If
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you read the lyrics cold and straight it's an ADV it's basically a song about
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taking advantage of women in aggressive sexual assaulting type ways if you just read the lyrics and if you're just like
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yeah if I was to give you the lyrics cold and say hey here's the song that we want to release as a single you'd be like oh I don't know if we should do
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this it is written Through The Eyes of a alpha type aggressive male absolutely
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and Scott wiland that was the whole point they are pro- feminists they are anti-sexual
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assault but they're just saying here is what somebody who is inappropriate or
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aggressive or sexually uh inappropriate with women this is what they think rock
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and roll and just music of all genres has a long history of writing a song
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from a Viewpoint that is not your own can do it in a way that is mocking that
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point of view you can do it in a way that shines a Spotlight on the wrongness
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of that point of view Stone Temple Pilots is not the first and not the last ban to do a song that has controversial
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lyrics if you just take them at face value musicians insist that you dig a
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little deeper and try to understand what it is that what sort of a statement they're trying to make by their decision
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of telling a story from this standpoint that we would be lacking of a certain
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certain sort of artistry if musicians didn't challenge Us in this way it's just a very basic response to say
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because he wrote this song and because it has this lyrics then that must be what he thinks I don't think there's
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anything about Scott wiland as a person that we've seen throughout the years that would indicate that he actually believes these things what he was able
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to do is he was able to put himself in those shoes and say these things and act in these ways that indicated that he
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understood what was wrong what he calls Macho type of attitude and this abusive
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power hungry attitude this song was very popular as you said it reached number 23
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on the rock chart yeah here we go a little bit of lyrics I'll just read it a little bit here I am I am I am I said I
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want to get next to you I said I want to get close to you you wouldn't want me to have to hurt you to thereal if you just
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you just took it on on the page right and another part is I am a man a man I'll give you something that you won't
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forget I said you shouldn't have worn that dress now isn't that the most
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indicative that he is making fun of this there are people who have argued against
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the victims of sexual assault and rape who have you've heard the term they were asking for it because of the way they
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happened to dress or dance at the club or they had too many drinks I mean we we know that the victim there's been victim
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blaming for ages there's been victim blaming for so long that we know that
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those sorts of statements are just absolutely wrong as soon as they start to come out of your mouth but it's
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ridiculous that anyone's ever said I I maybe it's just the way I'm wired I can't imagine ever saying oh because she
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showed cleavage I can thus do things to her that's a weird segue but I guess people have made that connection though
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these lyrics are dark they are taken from the idea of a man who thinks this way this song is such a killer song it's
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amazing [Music]
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[Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] I am I am I am I said I want to get next
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to you I said I'm going get close to you
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you would want to have to hurt you to hurt you too
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[Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] this part of the song here I really like
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how he sings this again one of the more controversial lyrics that I read already in the song
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but the way he vocals the song it's starting to show a little bit difference of his range as a vocalist and it's even
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shown more in his their sophomore album how high he can sing and the different levels of singing that Scott wiland has
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that he doesn't really show on this album he shows more range in further albums
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here I girl my girl my girl I am I am I am I still I want to get next to you I
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said I'm going to get close to you you would want to have Hur you to hurt you
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to I know you all my mind I know you
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like what's on my mind I know it need you up this
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I know I love this song this is such a ball to the wall it's a rocker there's
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no grunge here whatsoever this is a rock song it's a very aggressive it's a very
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makes you want to you know it makes you want to get up and move around but I also think it would be a great just like
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driving song it'd be great for like a race car video game or something it's just got this the wheels are in motion
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and it's grinding it's grinding I like what you said about his uh his vocal range these don't M pilot songs are so
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fun to sing they're just fun to get down into the gutter where he is sometimes
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with his voice the things that he can do with it very very fun I wanted to point out one thing about the imagery of this
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music video because I thought it was just so on point with this whole genre
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and this whole this whole scene at the time in this music video the band is
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playing in like some sort of an abandoned partially collapsed building there is a girl who is almost done up
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like a Disney princess it's a blue dress and she's got a tiara on throughout the
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course of the video Scott wiland is sort of swinging around on a wrecking ball
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there's another I believe it might be the drummer Eric cretz who is the
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antagonist in the video sort of chasing down this woman who through the course
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of the video undresses herself and then dances around in the shadows it's a very shadowy video I sometimes wonder why
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they made these things so dark back in the early 90s we didn't have HD video
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why would you make a music video where you can hardly see the band but that was what they did at this time very very
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memorable imagery in this uh video for Sex Type Thing all right you ready for
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track three Wicked Garden this was not a single released from this album but it
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was given to radios as a radio promo in my research for this album I think I
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started to understand a little bit more about why I heard these things songs as often as I did the mechanics of
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releasing things to radio whereas just the stations that I just got lucky that
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the stations that I was around at the time were playing these songs in such heavy rotation this is about a
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four-minute song according to Scott wiland it's a song about the loss of Purity which I think is just such a
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lofty Motif for a song Wicked Garden I think is a pretty obvious reference to
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the Garden of Eden and fall of mankind and the original sin you can also look at the title of the album core many
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times the band members have referenced that core core of an Apple the original sin from the snake this and that so
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there are some religious references made in this album and uh in the title as
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well one of my favorite versions of this song was the one they played on MTV Unplugged I don't know if you were a fan
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of that show but that was another way that I was originally introduced to this band I was sometimes in terms of
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Parental determinations I think I was sometimes more able to watch the acoustic versions of these songs than
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actually watch the music videos because the music videos just had all this imagery this one in particular had a
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pretty memorable music video too it was a concert video uh Scott has pink hair in this video it was yeah it's a concert
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video that featured a lot of mosh pitting mosh pitting in the crowd mosh in the hallway so this was a concert
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video but another strong imagery for me at the time and I think it matched up with the general grunge scene
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[Music]
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can you see like a
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child and you see you what I
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want I want to run through your way to go CU that's a place to find you cuz I'm
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alive so now I know the dark is found you and you
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see where I always hate stopping songs when I do
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these music episodes cuz I just want to keep listening to the song I hate interrupting it but for the purpose of the podcast we can't play the whole
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thing and what have you but this is another great song it's kind of gone back a little bit to the the sound of
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Dead and Bloated that same type of pace lower vocal it never quite kicks up
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again so we go Dead and Bloated hard drive and Sex Type Thing now we've kind of reverted again back to a little bit
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of that slower moving not as fun type sound still one of the band's biggest hits and despite not
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being released as a single they got to number 11 on the US Rock tracks chart
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got some play sure did it's a fan favorite and it's big at concerts I think they probably played every show all right so now we're rolling into
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their instrumental no memory so Wicked gardens's lyrics deal with the loss of innocence and Purity while sin addresses
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which is the track after this one violent and ugly relationships so the song no memory it's a musical in between
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Wicked Garden and sin and it was written by guitarist Dean Deo I'll play a little snippet of it you get the idea of it
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this will not be in the running for worst song on the album because Scott does not sing on it so all the band
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members do not participate on this track here we [Music]
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go definitely hear the bass and guitar but there's no drums or
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vocals it's a nice little interlude I don't hate it
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[Music] no I don't even have the criticism that
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I've heard a lot is that it serves no purpose or a waste of a minute I think on I mean this album is only 53 minutes
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long I I don't think that it's wasting any of our time and it honestly sounds like it would fit right in I it sounds
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to me almost like a Metallica intro of some sort it's not good it's not bad it's just there it's just there you know
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if you're playing this on a cassette you're not fast forward it if you're playing it on a CD all the way through you're not skipping it does kind of
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bleed into your song so if you want to just scroll right into number five absolutely number five is the song
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called sin this is a song is inspired by a Canadian Rock Band by the name of Rush
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had you heard that I think I've heard of that band Rush uh they had a couple
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songs I think they've done I think a couple of people might have heard of these guys I don't think they're really that big they're only Canadian so not I
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don't think anyone outside of Canada's heard of rush so well they're no Bare Naked Ladies that's what I would say or
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Nickelback or they're no Nickelback they're no nickel don't don't hold oh
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man they're gonna oh the hate mail will come in now boy Nickelback over Rush the sin the
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fifth song on this album is not a single was never even released as a radio single which is that this is one of the
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songs that the band loves to play Live it's got a great building atmosphere to
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it there's a couple of guitar solos there's a bridge that's a nice acoustic
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kind of in the middle there there's a solo at the end where I just wrote in my notes it sounds like the guitar is kind
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of talking to you so I think that's a cool thing about some of these rock songs especially from this era they were
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not afraid to sort of have a little Jam here you want to play a little bit of sin all right we'll do the intro for a
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few seconds and then I'll go to the part that you you're marked right sure
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I [Music]
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oh you [Music] [Applause] want CL
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my so right there right away you got that driving driving guitar rhythm
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that's again a a rock Rhythm really really love it this is a six minute song
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with the you throw in the addition of the intro no memory it's a nice 7even Minute Jam never sounds too long to me
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it progresses in the right [Music] [Applause]
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ways well I love this part here I do too I did
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too this is very unique to have this change [Music]
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[Applause] up trying to get a sense of Scott
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wyland's vocal range
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still sh to the shadow still sh to the shadow
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] that's very Rock sounding here oh I love
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it I again I I keep bringing this up only because I don't think St double Pils is a grunge band I just don't just
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got unproperly put into this category I think it happens all the time when you're sort of in the midst of changing
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different genres of rock the early 90s was such an yeah tumultuous time between
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the the hair metal days and the grunge days so I think Stone like you said very well already that they bridged that Gap
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where they you could be a grunge fan and safely like these guys and you were a hair metal fan and you could safely like
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these guys without betraying what you thought should be the better of the two genres and then you get into some of the
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Showmanship of those late 90s alt rock bands and they were inspired by this as well and Stone Temple Pilots not on this
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album but in their future albums they changed their Style accordingly all right track six is naked Sunday this is
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a taking a stab at religion and problems with religion and I should note that Scott Wyland and most of the band
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they're in their mid-20s right now Scott is 25 I'm always amazed at the ages you know 25 this is he's writing and singing
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this stuff and when you know their age especially when it comes to religion this is kind of the age where people start questioning hm I was uh I was one
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way growing up or whatever the world told me this or my you know whatever it might be and when you get into your 20s
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you start to identif Iden ify yourself as see who am I outside of my home who am I on my own this song kind of
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reflects the religious aspect of that but it's it's kind of pointing the finger at the evangelicals which isn't
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uncommon or even I would dare say it might be even a little cliche but
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evangelicals have really made a real mess of religion I think haven't they because isn't that a
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way of saying that religious people have ruined religion yes I was just going to say religion is fine and dandy if humans
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just stayed out of it yeah exactly I'm latching on to what you said about the age of 25 the way that Scott and other
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rock stars when they get to that age you have a tendency to get out over your skis a little bit you've gotten to the
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point where you're no longer a child you look back on things that you thought when you were 18 or even 20 and you say
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how could I possibly thought those things I was such a fool well guess what at 25 you're still a about certain
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things as well you know you have this maybe it's an undeserved confidence in
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your understanding and so you wind up writing these songs and you laugh at the people that are such sheep and such
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fools well then then you get to the age of 30 and you realize that you were sort of an idiot at 25 as well oh I was a man
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I wish I go back to my 20-some year old self and say snap out of you pump his ass sure sure because you you know
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you're so full of not being a kid but you're also you're not as wise as you think that you might be you're not at
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all you're and every 20-year-old thinks you have it all figured out yeah of course that's right that's right naked Sunday wasn't just a stab at religion
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isn't it also something of like a funk track they were trying some things here yeah it's great here we go let's check
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it out I love this intro and his vocal work here the effect that he uses is fun
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it's like you can almost picture him on the top of a podium in front of a congregation
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[Music]
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got to tell you intro remind say that again this intro just
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always reminds me of tattoo of the Sun by thirde Eye Blind another failed
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attempt to do a funk song by a rock band fair enough
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[Music]
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fast that face is playing now so I love Scott's yeah his
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that H I love I it's hard to sing in general I can't sing a note if my life depends on think it's really fun to sing
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I think it's really fun to sing I think this is another one of his megaphone bullhorn songs yeah they actually played
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this on Saturday Night Live when they did their first appearance I can't believe that they have these great
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singles and I think they did either either creep or plush but then they also did naked Sunday just shocked decision
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well yeah absolutely I I must have known that because I was a huge fan of the time and it was a huge s live watch the time so I'm sure I saw the performance
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28 years can you believe this ALB we didn't mention this came out almost three decades ago it did they did their
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25th re-release and that was three years ago it's insane this is insane to me I I
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just can't believe this album is almost 30 years I where is the time going okay
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I love this uh effect here this is him kind of like yelling at the
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congregation oh maybe I just part okay where did I find it oh this is the solo part I want to
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[Music]
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show for turn the other chide We're All God's Children The Giver
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of love but only
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we I that's a fun part the solo and then he yells at the congregation and then he goes back to his
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uh I just it's a great effect it's such a fun fun song now you said it was a failed attempt like third eye blinds
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attempt I think they knocked this funk out of the park fair enough we can agree to disagree on that one perhaps I'm not
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as well versed in Funk or oh I don't know anything about well I mean if you listen to early Red Hot Chili Peppers
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they've done it well to me that song is so much fun I really enjoy that song but hopefully oh hopefully we haven't uh got
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a hint of what your worst pick might be I hope I haven't buried the lead on that by challenging you but we'll we'll
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continue we'll continue okay you got the next one well we will have to talk at the end about what songs are considered
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and what songs are not that's right absolutely what I wanted to point out about naked Sunday is one of two songs
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on this album that credits each member of the band with some writing oh there
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you go so each member of the band had some part to do with this song the other song where everyone gets a credit is
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plush obviously this song was you know meaningful to all of them they do sound like they're having fun on the
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track right but that's not not always indicative of a good track the next song on on the album is number seven it's a
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little diddy called creep it was the fourth single released off the album it
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was released in November of 199 three over a full year after the album was released that kind of struck me as a
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very old school way of doing it I don't know if these days you pump out the album you drop a couple singles I don't
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know if you're really still releasing singles off that album A year later that's just not how it's done these days
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but this is certainly showing the longevity of this album I can remember listening to these songs on the radio in
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9798 into the late '90s and you know creep was still very very heavy rotation
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the album version of this song is 5 minutes 5 and a half minutes the radio edit is 4 and a half it always did seem
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like a very somber song it seems like it's longer than it is this is one of
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the first songs that you might think this is a Nirvana song this is very heavily inspired it's a song about
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letting yourself down it's a song about not feeling like you fit in or second guessing yourself
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[Music] [Applause]
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[Music]
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forward yesterday makes me
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want you know this song has such a strong Vibe for me
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[Music] take time with a wanted hand cuz it Li
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to he take time with a wounded hand cuz the
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like to steal take time with a wounded hand cuz
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it likes to heal I like to steal I'm Happ man I used to be
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be well I'm half man I used to
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[Music]
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be I remember the song very obviously I remember this album I listen to it on heavy rotation personally as a teenager
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and I get why this is a single I understand why this is a single I know
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how singles work well it was the last single but it was released in November they released their sopore album The
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Following June it's crazy so you know the video for this one was black and white everyone was wearing flannel
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sitting around a uh kitchen table and then they did what I think was a very
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very very common piece of imagery from the 9s Scott Wyland sitting on the floor
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of a black and white checkerboard like lolium floor and he's hugging his knees
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very sad boy Rockstar look they did have a second video that they made for this
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one directed by Gus Van Sant and you and
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I have had a podcast previously where we talked about a movie made by Gus Van Sant do you remember which one yeah
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Goodwill Hunting I believe right that was Goodwill Hunting yeah so I always knew that he came from the world of
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music videos did not know that he had directed a stone Tipple Pilots video and in fact that stone tiple Pilots video
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for this song was never released because of its drug and sexual references Mr Van
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Sant was certainly on one when he directed this video and it never got released this song made it to number two
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on the Billboard charts not surprise it's it's one that the guy in the car driving his car can listen to and his
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girlfriend doesn't mind as well that's absolutely right and then he puts on Sex Type Thing and oh boy
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well uh I think the next song is for you sir piece of pie well we just had American Thanksgiving did you have any
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pie there my friend I had some peon pie I had some pumpkin pie yes yes what
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about you I'm a Canadian and we had Canadian Thanksgiving in October but we actually have three American Bardon
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children so we often celebrate or recognize American Thanksgiving when it does happen cuz we were in stationed in
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the states for 4 years and had three children while we were there we love the us we love our Southern neighbors
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because I'm on a low carb no sugar diet unfortunately I did not enjoy any uh pie
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it was a pess year for you I don't understand Canadian Thanksgiving why is it one month earlier to make sure I
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don't sound like an idiot I'll just say Google it are there pilgrims involved there's
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pilgrims there's Aboriginal people involved it's all that good stuff everyone just got along we all shared a
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meal together just like you guys just like the Native Americans and aboriginals and Canada First Nations people we all just got along the white
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man and uh the first settlers of these of these great Nations we all got along right is that what history says we had
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we shared turkey and mashed potatoes I think it started off with Kumbaya and
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nothing bad ever happened after that no I that's my understanding I believe that's called whitewash history I could
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be wrong um all right so This song is called Peace of Pie
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[Music]
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yeah
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hey I'll broke the bread L nobody
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knows I walk the front line still got far to
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go oh I mix the water oh I drank the
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water ioke [Music]
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bread I freaking love this song said yeah I I I got a feeling I haven't said
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enough of how much I like certain songs that they' come up and I because I don't want to bury the lead on my worst pick it's fair to say when we love a song and
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I love this album generally 80% of this album I just love I just love his vocals
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on this I love the effect the change the back and just the way I I almost see him singing the song out of the side of his
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mouth I don't know why he's like I just love the way he does the vocal in the song there's that one part
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where he goes yeah you can't even say it with your mouth wide open you've got I've always
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just picture he's like here like an old timey you know gangster from the 30s or 4 yeah yeah
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[Music] don't want to leave it to your heart to
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your no want leave
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[Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] [Music]
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yeah yeah great stuff boy I don't want to stop it but I really enjoyed it the origin of
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the title this song in addition to the song sin the fifth song both of those
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were composits of other songs that they had had put together piece of pie with
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all of the different solos originally those solos were all contained in different songs and so specifically
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piece of pie is a reference to the fact that this is sort of different pieces of different pies put together to make one
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song sort of the way that you would put your leftover pecan pie with your leftover pumpkin pie and eat those later
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I could I I could eat those together easily oh you're starving now I'm starving I think we've done a few
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podcast recorders where I'm starving next song on the album is probably objectively the most successful
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song on this album it is the only single it was the third single but it's the only single that got to number one on
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the billboard album chart it was released in May 13th of 1993 it is about five minutes long on
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the album about four minutes on the radio it is a song called plush
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[Music] [Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] [Music]
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and I feel the to to where to
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go so where you go into tomorrow and I
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see the these are lasts to come to you even
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[Music] care and I feel
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[Music] it and I [Music]
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feeling this song was so huge it won the 1994 Grammy for a hard rock performance
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it beat out such songs as acdc's Highway to Hell and the Smashing Pumpkins cherub
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rock it won MTV Music Video Awards it was part of the reason why they got the
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1993 award for MTV's Best New Artist it also was a little bit controversial in
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the same way as some of the other songs David Spade made a joke about this song
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He said on Saturday Night Live I remember the first time I heard this song when it was Pearl Jam yeah
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yeah very very popular song very very iconic music video as well Scott had red
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hair they were doing the ey lens type of thing as they were filming it very
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iconic for that time and music it's got one of the most iconic Rock hooks ever
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about dogs finding her took me a long time to really understand is this what I'm hearing is this really what I'm
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hearing Scott said that he wrote this song after he read a newspaper article about a girl who had been found dead
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after being kidnapped in the early 90s now I don't know if you hear that a lot these days multiplatinum artists that
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write songs about dead girls in newspaper articles Scott Wyland found his inspiration in that way this is just
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one of the hugest songs on radio ever in the decade of 2010 through 20
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9 it was the number four most played song on rock radio and that was 20 years
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after it's release yeah some songs do that so they have that longevity sure it does represent the longevity of the song
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it does sound like it came from the 90s but it's a song that that's okay that I
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can see why satellite radio or whatever the station is would play the song safely knowing that most people in the
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vehicle or working at work are not going to mind listening to this song so to hear that it's played as much as it was
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throughout the 2010 to 2019 not surprising at all funny my best friend
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growing up and shout out to to Nathan there if he's listening to this episode
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I remember he told me he goes uh cuz I was already a big pejam fan I had their uh of course I had their album 10 and he
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goes oh Ryan Ryan there's there's a a new Pearl Jam song and he was because this is before YouTube this is just what
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you heard on the radio I guess he had heard it on the radio or something I'm like new Pearl Jams I'm not I don't think there is a new song or whatever
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and I forget how he got me to it but when I heard I like Nathan this is not Pearl Jam this is Stone Temple Pilots
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and I don't fault him for it now this is where that the comparison is inevitable at this time with this song you could
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almost slip in Eddie better singing here it's not a bad thing it certainly is not the bands that I fell in love with when
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I was sort of coming of age but here from a couple of years earlier I I
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probably did not know that this was a Stone Temple Pilot song or Pearl James song for sever years I just knew it was
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a good song um and so that's sort of my introduction to it that and the music video MTV had a show called Headbangers
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ball and Scott Wyland and Dean Deo appeared on the show I mistakenly called
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him Dan Deo earlier it's Dean they came on the show and gave an acoustic performance of plush the acoustic
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performance of plush also got very very very heavy AirPlay in my area be listen
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to the radio on two separate days and and they would play this song One version or the other I like both uh I
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like a lot of the acoustic versions of these songs have you ever waigh your bed not something that I'm here to talk
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about on this particular podcast understood well the next track is called wet my bed it officially is a song it's
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more of a spoken word piece but every band member as far as I can tell participates in this track so it does
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fall into the category of it can be if so desired picked as the worst track on
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the album but it's called wet my bed it's only a minute 36 seconds long and lots of fluffy pillows now
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so and where's my cigarette did you check the
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bathroom the bathtub she sleeps there
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sometimes water cleanses you know washes Dirt away makes
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new maybe she maybe maybe she maybe she maybe maybe she swam
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[Music] away okay all right now what this song Here
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was actually their first recorded track for the album It's 96 seconds it emerged
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from an improv session between the vocalist Scott and of course the basis Robert who were alone in the studio and
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then producer Brendan O'Brien which you forgot to mention Brendon O'Brien a very incredible producer he has produced some
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of the biggest albums in rock and pop and whatever history he's incredibly talented producer that's his voice at
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the end of the track that could be heard all right now what so the rest of the album should be noted after this track
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was recorded was recorded in a matter of 5 weeks but this was their officially first recorded track for the album wet
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my bed that of course that funny Spoken Word by Scott it sounds like each member is in this I hear a bit of bass I hear
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some guitar struming I hear a little bit of drum we even had the producer chiming in so really this is a full team effort
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but what I do like about this is when the producer brandan comes in and says okay what next I'm just going to go back a little bit cuz it bleeds right into
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your it's a great segue cuz he the producer actually says hey what's next and then we get into your track cracker
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man but I was going to play that Segway CU I think it's important to hear as it plays on the album
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okay all right now what now
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[Applause] what cracker man is another nonsense Le but very very energetic and memorable
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song was the first song they played when they did MTV Unplugged in 1993 their
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version that they did was absolutely phenomenal it's another bullhorn megaphone song There is some controversy
59:11
about whether or not it's written about a homeless person or I I don't remember what the other option was I think it
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probably does sound like it was written by a homeless person I really do like the back and forth Scott talking to
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himself both regular voice and then bullhorn megaphone Scott absolutely
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fantastic guitars it hits me in the right way because of the and I think I
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think too much kind of lyrics songs written by complicated rock stars about
59:45
the activity that goes on in their own head their anxieties or their more internal thoughts always appeal to me
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you understand maybe a little bit more about Scott and maybe why he died of a drug overdose in 2015 these lyrics are
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very personal to [Applause]
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[Music] [Applause]
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[Music]
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him down the street I got the m in my
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shoes War roll
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roll all right I made way too [Music]
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much [Music]
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roll and I make [Music]
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what a great great opening uh well the whole song just drives the whole way this is a great song I think it's a a
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favor right away for a lot of people when they hear it on the album It's could have easily been a single you could almost make the argument this
1:01:13
could have been replaced in a less controversial way they could have made cracker man their first single over Sex
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Type Thing it's a less controversial song and it would have done the same driving sound that Sex Type Thing brings
1:01:25
if so if I was a record company or producer maybe the time if I would have been tentative about releasing Sex Type Thing as a single this might have been a
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safer bet but also would have still shown you the driving sound this album has I totally agree I also just wanted
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to point out the length of the song it never lets up and it goes pretty hard
1:01:42
for three minutes yeah it's the shortest song on the album with the exception of the instrumental and the spoken word I
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suppose it's just like no second was wasted it's just powering through the entire way actually has some pretty
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memorable lyrics for me and speaking of length of songs they're closer wasn't
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common a lot for these U bands like these grunge bands and or even rock bands that were straight not say
1:02:08
straightforward we're not we're not talking about Pink Floyd here we're not talking about Leed Zepplin here or uh rush I me we mentioned that band Rush
1:02:15
that nobody yeah nobody knows who they are but they had some longer songs too but this song Here their last one of the
1:02:22
album where the river goes it clocks in at 8 and 1 half minutes where the river goes it's almost 3 minutes longer than
1:02:28
Dead and Bloated but it feels shorter interesting well Dead and Bloated is so repetitive that's the biggest hit on
1:02:34
that one I think where the river goes if it's not fitting in style with the grunge or the hair bands that preceded
1:02:42
it it is fitting in style with the alternative rock albums that followed it
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a lot of alternative rock bands in the mid and late 90s put a long jam session
1:02:53
type of song at the end of their album it happened all the time this fits in very well with those sorts of
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[Music] albums great drum sound
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[Music]
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there I like that it has a guitar solo right at the beginning kind of yeah
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I don't waste any [Music]
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[Applause] [Music] time yeah could coun
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[Music] the and then I'm going to go to uh where it picks up a little bit in the tempo it
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does pick up a little bit here in the song like as far as the the beat and the progression
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[Music] this at the 4minute Mark halfway through
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yeah I a mountain I want to fly as high as a
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sun I want to know what the rest likeing help I know
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[Music]
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[Applause] where there's a great one at 5:30 is what I had written down yeah I think
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you're getting it right there yeah perfect that's exactly what I got
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[Music]
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nowhere nowhere so that is the closer like we
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said 8 and a half minutes long and it does suffer a little bit the end with the repetitive course but it's a song
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that has so many changes comparably speaking to the other songs of the album that it's it's Unique it has a great guitar soul I like I like the chorus a
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lot I like the message of the song yeah so there you go where the river goes is the album closer to 1992's
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I have a feeling that that song is likely a big hit live Stone Temple
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Pilots are one of the few bands that I I really do have an affinity for that I've never seen live want to talk about the
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things that are very impactful at a concert I know it's almost the end of 2020 what the heck is a concert right
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yeah remember those boy yeah really there's certain songs that are big hits at concerts and I I would imagine this
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is a good one they probably do a fair amount of improvisation you know really just have a good time as the band on
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that one yeah I haven't seen them live either well with Scott wiland I did see them with their new singer Jeff gut oh
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okay and he's great he's great it's through no fault of his own that Scott's dead and I like that I like that the
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band has continued to make music because at the end of the day it's it's really the deal band they do all the music writing for the majority of the that is
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their sound that is their music sound it's kind of like Van Halen has had two different singers or even three if you
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count Gary Chiron but it was Eddie Van Halen me rest in peace as well that
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drove the music and sometimes the music will change for the singer and the way they sing so I saw them live so I think
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it was 2018 I saw storm Temple P live so I did see the brothers live with Jeff singing he did a great phenomenal job
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just at fine line between sounded like Scott when you need to sound like Scott but the sound like him for his songs the
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great life music they were touring with bush and the cult so it it's a great triple bill and it's weird because I was
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a huge concert goer back in the day like I mean I still am when I can not anymore but but back when I was a teenager I saw
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tons and tons and tons of shows back in the he of all these bands for whatever reason I just missed seeing Stone up
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pilotes until unfortunately after Scott's passing so we might have to Hash this out a little bit what don't you
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give me do you have three that could be in the running or just two let's without revealing your answer in the running for
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worst that's what we're talking about and and we're not including no memory no memory is out of the running it cannot
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be included but wet my bed is in the running correct everyone participates in
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it it's enough of a song that there's a progression there's a beat there's a drum playing it's not just noise if that
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makes sense it is spoken word but it's a it's a track and I think it's officially a song it's the first recorded track of
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the album so three that I'm giving in the contention for worst wet my bed
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naked Sunday piz of pie okay
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wow holy Hannah we have two different experiences with this album and you and
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I have differed on this before sometimes we have other people here to sort of uh indicate who's right and who's wrong
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well of course I'm right but continue well I just want to make it clear you are allergic to a single you've always
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have and you always will be some of these songs that are a little messier than others don't appeal to me you know
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me well you know me well and but I want to hear your reasons for I already know your reason for wet my bed and I dare
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say I could probably put money on your pick here but tell me your reasons for piece of pie and ni Sunday well you mentioned you thought they failed at
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that song uh with the fun well like I said may maybe Funk doesn't appeal to my ears but then Funk funk by a band that
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doesn't do Funk it sounds messy to me it's the lyrics to that song his ideas
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on religion I really don't care I really don't this whole bully pulpit looking
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down on the sheep that believe in religion that song has been done and I guarantee you it's been done better
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Piece of Pie has some really really great guitars in it but I think as soon
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as I found out that it wasn't originally a song it was a pieces of other songs put together I said okay they needed to
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fill out some time and they wanted to put a certain kind of song here what I
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did note about this album was that the stone Tipple Pilots were trying to put together an album they were trying to
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you know place the singles in certain places Le the singles in certain places
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this was an album experience and so here I think they needed something to go between creep and plush and this is what
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they came up with it's not a bad song but this is a very very good album and that that is my you know probably third
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you made me give three so not everything's created equal I hate it when people say you can't pick a worst because that would mean you like every
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song the same which a would be a Bor in existence I don't know how you could like every how could you like everything
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the same whatever that level is you can't experience everything the same it's weird which one is your worst pick
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there my friend my worst pick is wet my bed okay CU you put it in the category of song that's fair and I would assume
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if we hadn't you would just then just say naked Sunday yeah I would say naked Sunday yep okay so do you want to take a
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guess what my bottom three songs are I would say three of the singles probably
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creep plush and Dead and Bloated or Wicked Garden boy you know me too what
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why yeah I knew I knew you from the time we agreed to do this
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yes so my bottom three songs now is it because they're singles I do have a bit of singli itis I don't know why it is I
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understand the nature of the single I both understand it but despise singles I I hate that I'm told by the companies
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which songs will be the most pleasing to my ear upon first listen because that's basically what they're saying they're saying hey here's an album that has
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different sounds different concepts we get it from Funk to spoken word to 8 minute songs to whatever it might be but
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to get you into those songs we have to kind of throw the singles at people that
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will be across the board everyone might like the most and then they'll come in
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hear the deeper tracks with this album core I will say right now before I get into my worst pick it is the non singles that drive
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this album says you says you oh my goodness I a cracker man naked Sunday
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sin Sex Type Thing not with standing that is the one single I'm always surprised as a single because of his
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content but not surprised because of his musical I love a driving rock song uh we call wickah Garden it's not a single
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it's a radio promo but it's almost a single but yeah so wickah Garden plush and creep those are my three bottom
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songs I'm not I'm not even joking I uh8 million stone pple pilot fans can't
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be wrong Ryan oh I'm sorry but I'm telling you Peace of Pie naked Sunday uh
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cracker man where the river goes Wick Garden's got a driving guitar driving Rhythm enough that no it's not my worst
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pick so now we're down to creep and plush how are you choosing between creep and plush easily
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easily apologize to anyone that's offended by this that's a strong Temple Pilot fan here we go so the reason why
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I'm going to pick this one is because it's boring and that's creep I just the
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vocal work is great like Scott sings it very well the drum work is really nice but it's just so boring it's 5 and 1/2
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minutes it's just plush just beats a enough because it's just a little bit faster and a little bit crunchier but
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creep is so boring I'm sorry they're boring songs to Me Maybe it's single itis maybe if I heard this album for the
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first time I might have something different to say about it but it's just this is the first time I've listened to creep in probably on my own on my own
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valtion without it being played Beyond My Control in probably 25 years you don't have to seek these songs out you
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don't they're on the radio they're in supermarkets they're in video games
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they're not really in like TV commercials but give it time these songs are ubiquitous these songs are in the
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ether in the public Consciousness and they have been for 27 28 years it's just that because it doesn't represent the
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band very well either and in fact it it cheapens them a little bit because of the unfair comparisons to other bands if
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I was to show hey I want to show you this band called Stone Temple Pilots I wouldn't lead with the song despite its chart topping success and its radio play
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I wouldn't because I'm like this isn't the band that we're gonna even hear later on in their career this song is I
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almost feel like it was made to be on the radio I would agree with you it sounds more like a Nirvana song than a Stone Temple Pilot song it almost sounds
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like an emo song the imagery being borrowed it even includes the line I think I'll start a fire not really one
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of the grunge anthems really more of a sad Rockstar from later I love it it's
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not anything that I seek out but it's something that I certainly get my fill of involuntarily it's been in that way
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my entire life I don't find these singles to be bad songs at all I find them to be very catchy and have some
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longevity to them I wonder if that has to do partly because of our not our age difference but then how we came across
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the album like what it meant to me as even as a teenager I was anti- single I stayed away from the radio I would
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remember buying albums not wanting to know what the singles were I tried so hard to stay away from yeah even back
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then it was hard but I tried I remember thinking I don't want to know so and so's releasing their new single I would actually avoid listening to it till I
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bought the CD I think you're absolutely right it's indicative of a more mature approach to the music and it's indicative of perhaps
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you know what you want and like you said you don't want anyone to tell you what you want I have a lot of experience with
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my favorite bands if I already know what I like about them I usually disagree
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with the choice of the single from their next album that's sort of across the board absolutely but the way that I was
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introduced to this band and the MTV approach to it and the radio approach that's just to have nothing
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against these big Mega hits eight time platinum album award winning very very indicative
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of the time that it came out and still has legs uh I love it these deeper cuts are fantastic they're amazing they're
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amazing all right well Drew has been absolute pleasure uh I hope people will stick around for in a few weeks time
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when the purple part two of the Stone Temple Pilots coverage will be done the reason why we picked purple as the best
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of Stone Temple Pilots because this is the worst of the best is because not to say that their career declined a little
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bit afterwards but it's just the nature of bands everywhere there's a peak every band has a peak every band has a peak no
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matter who they are and then they just don't Peak anymore because that's what peaking is it's an apex it's a peak and
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I think they can we agree the peak of stone tiple Pilots was Interstate love song okay can we not spoil please part
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two holy smokes what are you trying to do here is it a spoiler if I mention a song that's been out for 27 years
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ear I all I'll say is that song is not their Peak and I'll leave it at that okay so purple great album I freaking
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love that album what a great sophomore effort in fact it was it was the album purple those little T's that made me
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love the band just that much more all right it's been a pleasure talking Stone
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Temple Pilots with you Ryan and remember in front of every Silver Lining there's
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a cloud and we're here to help you find that thanks Drew I hope to talk to you again we you already got it on the
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all right beautiful job brother I'm