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Would you rather work smarter or harder? Gi or no gi? Sauna or cold plunge? In this episode, Joey and Drew sit down to put their principles to the test with a “This or That” challenge. They break down their preferences on everything from coffee habits to productivity, Jiu-Jitsu training, and daily routines. They also discuss work ethic, why gut health is the foundation of real health, and the importance of staying disciplined in a world full of distractions. Watch to hear their takes on hard work, training, and the mindset that separates the Few from the many.
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The official podcast of Few Will Hunt, the world’s largest community of hard workers and Made in the USA apparel brand. Family-owned and operated and headquartered in Philadelphia. We’re on a mission to restore the dignity of hard work and help others live The Rules of The Few to strengthen ourselves and strengthen society. No entitlement or excuses are allowed here.
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Drew Beech
Drew Beech is an entrepreneur and cofounder of Few Will Hunt. He spent several years in the sales and marketing industry, grossing over several million dollars in sales. But his love for the entrepreneurial journey and desire to escape the rate race started with his personal training business in college. Today, Drew leads the Few Will Hunt community alongside his cousin and cofounder, Joey in their mission to restore the dignity of hard work through the highest-quality American-made apparel.
What is The Few Will Hunt Show?
The official podcast of Few Will Hunt, the world’s largest community of hard workers and 100% Made in the USA apparel brand. We’re on a mission to restore the dignity of hard work and help others live The Rules of The Few to strengthen ourselves and strengthen society. No entitlement or excuses are allowed here.
Get a hot take here. I truly don't prefer either. They're equally as bad, but I'll do
Speaker 2:either one. Like, they're all they're both good. Equally as bad, meaning bad for you?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. I'm bad. Say it was equally bad in McGee or out of McGee.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. What's going on, Eagles? Welcome.
Speaker 1:It's my I'm run I'm running the fucking show, dude.
Speaker 2:Yo. Include this game. Include this game. Alright. K.
Speaker 2:You're running the show. Let's
Speaker 1:What's going on, Eagles? Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. I am your host today, Drew. I am joined by my cousin and cofounder, Joey. Joey, how are feeling today?
Speaker 2:I I mean, I'm feeling good. I I'm feeling good. I'm feeling pretty good. I a little mix up in the beginning.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if that's right. You are
Speaker 2:getting better?
Speaker 1:Take it. You
Speaker 2:what you know what? I manifested that because since the beginning of the show, I've been saying, I'm gonna lose my job.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna lose my job.
Speaker 2:I manifested it.
Speaker 1:And now you did, in fact, lose your job? That comes with a smaller paycheck as well.
Speaker 2:So great. Wonderful.
Speaker 1:Your paycheck Listen.
Speaker 2:I'm an entrepreneur, man. I don't can it get smaller?
Speaker 1:I don't know paycheck you were getting for being the host of the Fuqua show is now going to my
Speaker 2:Oh, man. It's a good thing I'm sponsored by Trulieve.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:These are my Trulieve's. Have got my wellness shots and my green shots here are gonna be coming in.
Speaker 1:We're gonna switch up this episode and do something a little more laid back, not as much go hard personal development stuff that we normally do.
Speaker 2:So fun. Let's have fun.
Speaker 1:You know,
Speaker 2:we did an episode underrated, overrated.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was fun. Yeah. And everybody loved it.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:So I'm waiting.
Speaker 1:I think everyone's like to see the softer sides of the guys that made famous the quote hard work in the soft world. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm not I'm not too good at this soft side stuff.
Speaker 1:And it is fun when I love seeing Joey laugh too. So anytime that
Speaker 2:I do not.
Speaker 1:You can use humor or be lighthearted. It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2:So That is a goal.
Speaker 1:Idea idea I came for the with for this show was this or that fuel hunt version or Joey and Drew version.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And I'm I have a lot of this or that, but we can go as long as we'd like.
Speaker 2:Okay. So rules are
Speaker 1:Rules are
Speaker 2:You're gonna present to
Speaker 1:me a do two options Mhmm. And then you have to choose this or that.
Speaker 2:Okay. Do I have to give context as to why I'm choosing?
Speaker 1:I think we should elaborate Couple sentences. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And just Couple sentences.
Speaker 2:Okay. Alright.
Speaker 1:And some of these will open up greater discussion as well.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be GIF I'm gonna be GIF Joey today.
Speaker 1:And I would also like to hear back from our listeners, our community, if they feel strongly either way. So if you have any type of grievances or disagreements, please leave leave them in our YouTube comments.
Speaker 2:YouTube's a wild place, bro. I know if we want that. Wait. Are there grievances with my choice or just grievances with the show generally?
Speaker 1:We're both gonna choose. It's not
Speaker 2:just
Speaker 1:oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I was feeling a lot of pressure for a moment there. Was like, holy shit. Alright.
Speaker 1:So I'll present to them. And then if I feel differently,
Speaker 2:Sounds good. Alright. Rules.
Speaker 1:First one, we were just talking about Frank with this earlier. Hot or iced coffee? Hot. But you don't do coffee. You do espresso.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, espresso is technically. I mean Kind of.
Speaker 1:It it identifies as coffee.
Speaker 2:Hot, dude. Like, burn burn my already damaged esophagus.
Speaker 1:Okay. I'm iced all year round. I never want a hot coffee. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now as a I was about to say that the word begins with a B, but I'm not gonna say that. As somebody who is very much concerned about their health fitness and does a lot of reading in that sector, is there a benefit to having the coffee cold versus hot?
Speaker 1:You know what is interesting? Because I'm I'm very
Speaker 2:because I'm gonna give you my take.
Speaker 1:I'm very belly conscious, very gut conscious. Mhmm. Actually, warm beverages are actually much better.
Speaker 2:So I was gonna this was that was like a I was sneaking one in on you, I was gonna actually hit you with that, but the other reason that maybe you care, maybe you don't. Maybe listeners care, maybe they don't. The other reason why I like hot is because I feel like my body needs to warm up that liquid anyway, and I feel like it's an energy leak.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:That's why I drink warm water too. Like, my like, my mom drinks warm water. I drink warm water.
Speaker 1:Tip, like, not tap. God. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I know. You don't want some fluoride? You want fluoride and reproductive chemicals?
Speaker 1:I would never drink tap water, but we do have a reverse osmosis.
Speaker 2:I drank from a little house growing up. It's probably why it's so weird.
Speaker 1:That is true. But we do have one of those, like, reverse osmosis things from the and I just, like, the room temperature was
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I do love and, again, being so health conscious, like, it's almost like we pick and choose. You know what I mean? Like, anyone that's health conscious at all, it's like, oh, I do this health thing, but not that not that health thing is not really for me. It's like, I kinda draw the line, guess, like, beverages because I love Yeah. Even with dinner, which I know you're not supposed to do as well.
Speaker 1:Like, Amanda and do, like, a big cold glass of element packets in, like, a carbonated water. Yeah. So it's like a soda type
Speaker 2:My girls love seltzer. Like, spindrift,
Speaker 1:love it. Love it. It. Give me all the carbonation.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I know, again, not ideal for us.
Speaker 2:One I'll throw something out there. Does this make me strange? Sometimes I'll drink hot water.
Speaker 1:In the morning, I mean, I do hot lemon water.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. That's why it doesn't make me strange? Nah. Nah.
Speaker 1:Hot lemon
Speaker 2:water. Like, if I'm going up to the to the water cooler Mhmm. And it's got, like, hot, warm, cold.
Speaker 1:No. I think that's
Speaker 2:Sometimes I'll I'll just put some hot water in a cup and drink.
Speaker 1:Warm we're dev warmer, the better. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Esophagus is absolutely ravaged, so I should probably drink more cold beverages, but, yeah, I didn't I didn't get the, strong esophagus genes. Alright. What's next?
Speaker 1:As far as the grind goes
Speaker 2:The grind? Which one?
Speaker 1:The grind. Like
Speaker 2:Just general life grind?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. Like, More Just hunting. Like putting in work. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Early AM or late night?
Speaker 2:This has changed throughout my life. I'll give you my this or that answer first, and then I'll give you some context. Right now, I am early AM. We just got a puppy, which I'm super excited about, and that has thrown my schedule off a bit because the puppy gets up when the puppy gets up. And I can't sneak out of the room without him getting up, so I don't want to disturb the house.
Speaker 2:So where I'm going with this is I'm turning more into my roots, which were late night productivity. Whereas before I was getting up around five or earlier sometimes, now I'm getting up at six.
Speaker 1:Amanda's trying to push me to get another dollar right now, and I'm like, I don't wanna go to the public
Speaker 2:space. Full of cap,
Speaker 1:dude. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You got a rain cap
Speaker 1:in first. Yeah. Yeah. Exact Now
Speaker 2:cap's sweet, dude. You just thought Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're you were disappointed in the cap's behavior. No. Was? It is not good. He jumps all over you and shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's what dogs do. You you complain about, like, all the stuff. You're like, oh my god. He barks and jumps.
Speaker 2:Like, dude, that's what a dog does. No. I get it. Like, when you come in, he jumps.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's too
Speaker 2:much. But that's it's trainable.
Speaker 1:I gotta I gotta get back to my
Speaker 2:I'm gonna give you a Google search to do, and I don't even know if he's still in the game. John Ford.
Speaker 1:Dude, I I asked you to send to me, like, after that day, and I was like
Speaker 2:Google Google John Ford, man. He is a he came in. He trained me, and that's what trained our previous God rest his soul, our previous
Speaker 1:I I Amanda, I saw something on Instagram the other day. A border collie, I think. Or, yeah, doing household chores.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like, my dog sucks.
Speaker 2:Just like humans, man. You can train them, do whatever you want.
Speaker 1:I am I prefer late night. Mornings, like I talk about this, but
Speaker 2:Get up with the sun.
Speaker 1:I do like to talk about starting my day the way I like to start it. Mhmm. That sets me up for hitting the day with the rest of the day with a full head of steam, and then I'll pick back up at night.
Speaker 2:I just enjoy, like, a really good wind down routine Yeah. Specifically with a book and some planning, and I don't like to be on a screen. That's the thing that, like so you know what I did, though?
Speaker 1:Oh, you got red light mode. You got the Iris app.
Speaker 2:Well, I do you can do that with accessibility on the phone, but what I do what I do, though, is triple click the side. Yeah. Yeah. Just triple click the side.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But on my computer, I have an Iris app that
Speaker 2:Oh, that doesn't
Speaker 1:red light. Yeah. Because it doesn't have the same
Speaker 2:I'll give you another hack. So this is what I do at night. If I know I can do the work, Dane's over here snacking, man. Hey, man. What do got, dude?
Speaker 2:Yo, share share some of the snack. RxBar. RxBar.
Speaker 1:Alright. I'm with it. It's approved. It's it's it's approved. So the Try and be healthy.
Speaker 2:That's funny. So the the what I'm doing now since I'm working till, like, eleven sometimes later. Sometimes I can't shut it off. That's the other thing with me.
Speaker 1:Not good.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the other thing with me. Like, once I get going at night, it's hard for me to shut it off. Like, if I don't have that wind down routine
Speaker 1:flow state, though.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. I get in flow state all of sudden. It's 12:30AM. You know what mean? And that screws up my sleep and everything else.
Speaker 2:So, anyway, what I've been doing at night, though, is so to reduce blue light, obviously, you know, my glasses got the things and Yeah. Yeah. You know, all that stuff, but smaller screen. So if you can save work that you need to do that you can do on your iPhone, it's better to look at your iPhone. It's a smaller screen, emits less light than your laptop screen.
Speaker 2:So I got one of these little, like, cheapy Bluetooth keyboards from Amazon that I can sit my phone in, and it kinda acts like a laptop. And then I'm not taking in all the blue light from the laptop screen.
Speaker 1:It is interesting that you were on the biohacking stuff before.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Way before. You told me to get my first pair of actual blue light blockers, the amber ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The Spectra four seven nines that you're coming to get. Yep. I put everyone on them now. Yep. But the
Speaker 2:The clip on John's.
Speaker 1:The one doctor I follow is teachings the most, doctor Jack Kruse Mhmm. Talks about light. The first thing you can do the best thing you do for your health before any kind of nutrition, exercise, workout
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:Is get your light environment. Right? So that means when the sun goes down, your lights go off as as best as possible.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And you block blue light with your blocking glasses, your amber not again, people think, oh, I have blue light blockers and this.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Is a coating.
Speaker 1:Yes. Yes. And it's gotta block the harmful blue light rays that are tricking us into thinking we're awake when we should be asleep or need to be Yep. Going getting ready
Speaker 2:for sleep. Primal. I mean, that's what it is. It's, like, primal. It's like how we were created and and and evolved.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. You know what I mean? So
Speaker 1:To that point that my favorite work sessions are done literally in my office in the dark.
Speaker 2:Pitch black.
Speaker 1:Pitch black. Headphones on. Like, literally, I'll use all the only light is the the computer screen.
Speaker 2:Yep. Another thing, you're talking headphones, pitch black, silence. The other thing that I do, and sometimes you might even see me, like, rolling around here with them on, is I put earplugs in. So they're, like, corded earplugs that you would use if you were at, like, the range or something. And, like, I'll use them in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1:Really?
Speaker 2:Just to because it limits for me, it limits external stimuli, which means that I can enter flow state quicker.
Speaker 1:I'm a big lo fi guy, though. Big lo fi for you. Low fi. Like, lo fi beats.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. Binaural beats. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes don't you like, I'm a big music guy.
Speaker 2:Like, I can listen to music. I can listen to, like, hip hop, like, blaring in my ears and get an inner flow state.
Speaker 1:No. I cannot.
Speaker 2:But I'm not that way all the time. Sometimes I just need silence, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah. True.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? So even the binaural beats, like, I love them. True. But sometimes I just need silence. True.
Speaker 2:You know?
Speaker 1:Alright. Moving on. We're going to the jiu jitsu world now.
Speaker 2:Oh, boy. Great.
Speaker 1:Pull guard or start standing?
Speaker 2:Start standing. Didn't we do this on underrated, overrated?
Speaker 1:We well, we did
Speaker 2:Oh, underrated, overrated. Yeah. Yeah. Start standing, man.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say pull guard.
Speaker 2:Surprise. Surprise. I will say that I have no every look. Like Frank said, different strokes, different focus. I say that all the time.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, I'm a start standing guy now.
Speaker 1:You end up in the same position, though. Oh, you end up in guard most
Speaker 2:of the time. Most of the time. But maybe you got a couple great takedowns to build your confidence, and you're just like, you know, I haven't made an open mat.
Speaker 1:Or you did the perfect double leg, and then you you got out of
Speaker 2:the side the entire Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Person. Alright. Pain t or v I a v t?
Speaker 2:Man, that is a tough one. Did you put this list together, or did man put this list together? That's a tough one, man. And I have to answer this as present day Joey?
Speaker 1:Yes. If you can only pick one for the rest of your life to wear.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, that changes things a little bit.
Speaker 1:What were you thinking?
Speaker 2:I was actually gonna say VIAV. I was actually gonna say VIAV. I know that probably astonishes you. Yeah. But I'm gonna go paint tea, actually.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm go paint tea.
Speaker 2:What I was trying to do was separate the nostalgia from it, because that was really the first message, and then the first tea Yeah. That really took off Yeah.
Speaker 1:But that one, the fuel home
Speaker 2:community and in the world, really?
Speaker 1:Just hit me, dude. Like, when you sent me that badge, I was like, damn, this one's sick.
Speaker 2:Painty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Vince did a
Speaker 1:great job on it. The
Speaker 2:And the preferred pain. It's just straight truth, man. Yeah. Yeah. Painty, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2:But that was a tough one. That was a good one.
Speaker 1:There's some other good ones in here. Would you rather do this or that? Would you rather do Suck Fest two times in one day or a hundred mile race?
Speaker 2:The original Suck
Speaker 1:Fest. The original Suck Fest.
Speaker 2:Suck Fest twice in one day. Hands down. Hands down. And for context, Suck Fest had to be renamed because the name's challenging if you Google it. What Suck Fest was is basically a marathon distance and 4,000 reps in the gym.
Speaker 2:So alternating so it was a was it a wasn't a quarter mile?
Speaker 1:It was a quarter mile.
Speaker 2:Quarter mile?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. A quarter mile and then 30 reps Yeah. Rounds of that. Yeah. What about you?
Speaker 1:I'm going You're answering. I'm going a hundred mile race.
Speaker 2:You're doing a hundred you're doing a Yeah. On. You ain't doing that, bro.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm if I'm choosing if I'm if I'm choosing to do either one, I'm definitely choosing a hundred mile race.
Speaker 2:Can I walk some of the Yeah?
Speaker 1:The ultra. You don't run. Like, you you they're like walking sticks half the time, I feel like.
Speaker 2:I don't know, man. I feel like I know. Can I feel like ultras, they run those they run those motherfuckers? The hundred no. No.
Speaker 2:Like an ultra. They run those motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:Are you sure? Think David Buggins walks?
Speaker 2:He don't walk. Yeah. David guy that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1:mean, mean,
Speaker 2:come on now. Let me speak.
Speaker 1:I think he did.
Speaker 2:No. He ran it. Just like Randy. Like, Randy, he did, like, a 50 mile. He ran it.
Speaker 2:He ran Well, in any event, you're doing the hundred mile or
Speaker 1:Maybe I'll walk. A light jog.
Speaker 2:Was Succfest that that was it was that Succfest was brutal.
Speaker 1:Alright. Personal development book or fiction book?
Speaker 2:Personal development book. All the time. All the time. Or a fictional personal development book. Like 12 pillars.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's they're probably my favorite. Yeah. I got it. I got it.
Speaker 1:If I had to pick, I love them both. Yeah. But if I had to pick, would go personal development book because I've learned on life changing things from personal development books that I've read.
Speaker 2:You've learned and applied.
Speaker 1:Yes. Which I'm gonna say. So a lot of people like we just talked with Frank, A lot of people get caught up reading, reading, reading
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And reading, and then never actually applying or taking action. And a lot of people ask me, like, Drew, like, how did you learn all this stuff? How did you like, to get to where you are today? I'm like, I literally learned from $10 books I bought on Amazon. Yep.
Speaker 1:And we just did what they said to do.
Speaker 2:And we That's a And we broke stuff, and we made mistakes,
Speaker 1:and we
Speaker 2:figured it out. What a great episode with Frank that we just did with Frank and all. Yeah. Shout out, Frank. A lot of good stuff came up.
Speaker 2:So I'm I'm going personal development book.
Speaker 1:Agreed. Text or email?
Speaker 2:Email. %. Email.
Speaker 1:I think we're gonna learn just how different we are with this.
Speaker 2:Email, a %. Yeah. But we're also you know, there's a generational difference. There's a ten year difference between us. Text is so fleeting.
Speaker 2:There's no way to track it. How do you build a system of
Speaker 1:text messages coming back and forth? I believe the new iOS update has
Speaker 2:Bro, up until the last iOS 15, you can even mark a text message as unread. Yeah. Yeah. How do you, like, how do you operate that way? That I can't
Speaker 1:I do the flagging system is a it saves my life on email.
Speaker 2:Yep. Yep.
Speaker 1:But I will say a lot of people might listen to this and say, especially friends, be like, oh, like you said text, but you never fucking answer them anyway. So
Speaker 2:But that's the thing. Now I got it's like now I got now I got like, on my phone right now, have 1,700 text, And I know some of those are real old. Yeah. So now I got the same problem in my inbox I do on my text messages. It just ain't working.
Speaker 1:I my friend Dustin our friend Dustin, the first ever If You Want model
Speaker 2:texted me Yeah, Dustin. Yep. I remember.
Speaker 1:Saturday. I didn't answer until yesterday. And this is a side note, but I I he was I was like, sorry. Didn't answer until now. And he said, it's all good.
Speaker 1:You know? I I just started to think you hated me. And I was like, no. But to be honest, I'm just trying to do a better job of living in the present moment and putting my phone down when I can. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And
Speaker 2:Well, plus other stuff takes over. You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1:But if you're focusing on being present for your family, for your work, for your jiu jitsu, like any your training, anything you're doing in that moment, it's okay to put your phone away. Of I don't know when we got to this part of society in the world where we feel like we have to answer immediately.
Speaker 2:Give you how to turn there? Yeah. Rim. Research in motion, BlackBerry. That's where it started.
Speaker 2:Ah. Like, the BlackBerry
Speaker 1:I didn't love my
Speaker 2:BlackBerry, though. The BlackBerry changed the urgency of communication. Yeah. It did a lot of good, but it it used to be called the Crackberry. That's, like, what people would call it when it first came out.
Speaker 2:It changed. And then, obviously, you know, the iPhone came after that, and, you know, we have better tools now. And if you don't learn how to use the tools, the tools use you.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So my point was I end up getting back to text messages within a few because I just the time away from my phone like, there's so many coming in Yeah. That the time with my phone bills them up. And then
Speaker 2:I have a couple pins on, you know, in iOS you can pin at the top, like conversations or whatever. I have those pinned, I know that those are absolutely And then I treat it like my inbox. Like I don't reply, I'm not inbox zero, bro. I don't reply to all my, I reply to some community members, like, sixty days later, and they're like, oh my god. Like
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I didn't think it went right back. And I'm like, look. I've got literally a thousand messages
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That I'm working through. Now text messages are the same thing, have become similar.
Speaker 1:Alright. I know the answer to this one, but for the community. Yes. Rap and hip hop or rock and pop punk?
Speaker 2:Rap and hip hop. Yeah. But I listen to for context, I love all music. Same. Like, I love literally everything.
Speaker 1:I love country. Love classical are a wild wild ride.
Speaker 2:Dude, bro, you look at my Apple Music, you'd be like, this dude is, like, a major identity.
Speaker 1:Well, there's there's one Apple Music as well. You're an Apple Music guy? Apple Music.
Speaker 2:Apple Music. Yeah. I'm an Apple guy, three
Speaker 1:and three. I'm a rock pop punk guy. If I had to if I had to pick rapper or rock. Got it. Guy or no gi.
Speaker 1:We did talk about this last episode.
Speaker 2:We did underrated, overrated. So this is this or that. You know, I've been training no gi now for almost six months, and I'm gonna I'm gonna say no gi.
Speaker 1:I will say.
Speaker 2:And you know what? I'm gonna because I went to open mat for three weeks, and I didn't even bring my ghee. And then I had a moment
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Where last Sunday when I went to open mat Everyone somebody asked me. They were like, yo. Do you have your ghee with you? And I was like, no. And then it triggered in my mind.
Speaker 2:I'm like, the last three open mats, I haven't brought my ghee.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I believe and I don't know if this is a a culture a jiu jitsu culture thing, but when I hear open mat, I just assume no
Speaker 2:gi. At Martinez, man, we we have a it's there's probably a slightly more no gi, but there's a lot of gi. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of gi.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna give a hot take here. I truly don't prefer either. They're equally as bad, but I'll do either one. Like, they're all they're both good.
Speaker 2:Equally as bad meaning bad for you?
Speaker 1:Yeah. My dad equally bad in McGee or out of McGee. Yeah. Do you learn by watching or learn by doing?
Speaker 2:That's a great one. Definitely, if I was gonna choose this or that, learn by doing, 1000%.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There is something to be said about watching, though. Most lessons, caught not taught. Yeah. But, you know
Speaker 1:I agree with you on doing. Sauna or plunge?
Speaker 2:I just had this conversation the other day. I forget who I was speaking with. I'm going to oh, no. We talked about it, I think.
Speaker 1:Overrated, underrated plunging.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But we we had a convo. I told you, I was like, I would love to have a sauna, like, a backyard sauna. %, I love the sauna.
Speaker 1:I don't feel complete, though, after a sauna if I don't get cold after. It's almost like I have to. It's like the cherry on top.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I don't I I like it look. I wear we were just talking about this.
Speaker 1:Like, are out of the sauna into a hot shower?
Speaker 2:No. Oh, would I do that?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like, is that what you do? Like, if you're Yeah. Yeah. In the sauna?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Or just over, like, a warm shower. I don't I wear since I wear shorts all year round, like, I'm in
Speaker 1:You're getting your cold your your cold therapy.
Speaker 2:Like, the cold doesn't have as much, like I don't get, like, as much of a buzz from the cold as I do the heat. Something about sweating out all the toxins is just Yeah. Powerful No. To me.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go if I had to pick one
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I would probably just pick the plunge. Interesting. Alright. Yeah. Do you like
Speaker 2:the way I feel after it?
Speaker 1:Yeah. They both have great benefits. Yeah. So I would hate to just have to choose one. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Next question is gonna trigger you trigger warning. Work smarter or work harder?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'm a work harder type of guy. Work harder type of guy. Not to say that there isn't a place for working smarter, but like we talked about on a recent episode, like, you can't do the 20% of the smart work without doing a % of the hard
Speaker 1:The hard work is the smart work. Mhmm. Single task or multi task?
Speaker 2:I can't fundamentally get into like the argument of like you don't have to choose nowadays. Like I used to think that was a choice you had to make, But since we're actually making choices since this or that episode, I'm gonna say single task. And I'm gonna say that with the context that when I was younger in corporate, like especially in my early twenties, I was a hell of a fucking multitasker. And that was a badge of honor for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I thought that you feel as though you do if you try and do everything, you don't get one thing done well?
Speaker 2:No. I think it was more like for me, it was, like, the epiphany that I came to was, like, how powerful boundaries are. So, I still multi we're entrepreneurs, bro. We multitask. Like, in between the shows, like, I'm replying to emails.
Speaker 2:You're like, hey. Look at this thing.
Speaker 1:I was almost thinking of having, like, multiple windows up. I got it on the computer screen. Oh, no. No. That's that was where the question
Speaker 2:I used to be I used to be in, you know, IT. Now I was doing I was programming, but I also did, like, a lot of, like, tech support stuff, software support for the software we built. And, like, if I went over to somebody's machine and they had, like, 70 tabs open, immediately, I was like, I do not resonate with this individual. Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 2:I was like, I can't do this.
Speaker 1:Brianna does that shit.
Speaker 2:I'm like, look. I know.
Speaker 1:Tabs open at once.
Speaker 2:So, Brianna, she's listen.
Speaker 1:She's like,
Speaker 2:She does listen. She's like, you She
Speaker 1:listens to every episode too.
Speaker 2:She's gonna be like, you asshole. So she was having problems where she was like, oh, I had to reboot my computer today. Was like, first of all, you should be rebooting your computer every day. She's like, so I lost my login to, like, this, that, or the other thing. And I'm like, what do you mean you lost it?
Speaker 2:She's like, well, I had the tab open. And I'm like, oh, no. I kept telling her, was like, when you're when you're in HQ next, let me look at your laptop, and we'll get to the bottom of it. And I was gonna rather
Speaker 1:She needs to go this to the Joey school that I dated, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's the same thing with, like
Speaker 1:Or technology. It's the same
Speaker 2:thing with, like, my house or my car. Now I have two young children. Right? So, like, in my home, it's not a museum. Like, when I was single, my home was a museum.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's not anymore. Right? But, like, it's the same thing with your home or your car. Like, there for me, there has to be some semblance of order for my brain to operate at its highest, most efficient level.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You know? If it's, like, chaotic, I can't do it.
Speaker 1:There is a saying that you may have heard before, but how you do anything is how you do other things. I have
Speaker 2:heard that before.
Speaker 1:I do believe that, Like I said, having chaos on your computer, you'll have chaos in your life.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, you know, we say condition for chaos. Right? That's because we don't quit when it comes. We work through it.
Speaker 2:But, yes, if you can engineer your environment to be less chaotic, do it. That includes the tabs of your browser.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Journal or meditate?
Speaker 2:Wow. You really these are very they're obvious this or that, but I've never thought about them in this context, so it's like kinda hard, man. I am going to go with meditate.
Speaker 1:Meditate for sure.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go with meditate, however that's a really hard one. I know. Just like pain VIAV, that was difficult. Yeah, that's a hard one. But I'm gonna choose meditate.
Speaker 1:Alright, back to jiu jitsu. Warm ups or straight to the live rolls?
Speaker 2:Warm ups, that's what I'm saying. I'm 42, man. Come on.
Speaker 1:No warm ups for us in movement, man. Got you warm up when
Speaker 2:you're You wanna do a little stretch?
Speaker 1:I mean, you warm up they we would just I I believe they
Speaker 2:Oh, are you are you talking group group warm ups? Or because
Speaker 1:I'm That was the
Speaker 2:because I'm kinda out on the whole, like, group
Speaker 1:stretch thing in the beginning. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm more into like, the warm up's gotta happen. I don't really love the group warm up
Speaker 1:philosophical question.
Speaker 2:Warm up.
Speaker 1:Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely need the warm up.
Speaker 1:Can go straight. Like, what are who are we? What are we? 16?
Speaker 2:Bro, I got I was just saying I wear my Shoemaker Films crew neck during my warm up suit, get my body going.
Speaker 1:Vacation in the beach or vacation in the mountains or the woods?
Speaker 2:So, man, you're trying to really fuck me up, man. Yeah. I have a life goal of having a domicile in three locations. A city center, the mountains, and the beach. Beach hasn't happened yet, but I do have a home in the center city, and I do have a home in the mountains.
Speaker 2:If I had to pick one Man, this is tough. I don't I don't know if I could. If I if I had to pick one, I'd I'd have to pick mountains.
Speaker 1:Really?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'd have to pick mountains. As much as I love the hot sun of the beach and the nourishment that the sea provides us and swimming Mhmm. And all that great stuff, I feel like the mountains matches my energy more.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. I'm going on the beach all day, especially if the house is, like, on the beach where the Yeah. As per the goal Yeah. To wake up and put my feet in the sand and touch that touch that
Speaker 2:Bro.
Speaker 1:That bit of earth between the sand and the oat. You know I'm talking about? Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's half wet. That is the the dream.
Speaker 2:I we go down the we go down ashore for a week every summer, and I have a rule that I don't wear shoes the whole week. Like, that's the lifestyle I wanna live.
Speaker 1:That is a %.
Speaker 2:That's I went to The Maldives. You know where The Maldives are?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I know that.
Speaker 2:Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And the resort we went to, they had a policy. No shoes, no news.
Speaker 2:And that is, like, just me, man. Like, no mainstream media and no shoes.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:Bro, that's that's me to a tee. But I'm I'm still gonna choose mountains because I feel like it just aligns with my energy more. I feel really relaxed at the beach. And for me personally, if I feel too relaxed for too long of a time, I actually get anxious. So the mountains gives me the ability to hunt, to cut down some trees, to, you know, build a fire, like, all that good stuff, do some work.
Speaker 1:That Amanda and I were talking last night just about technology and because we're putting together this list. And
Speaker 2:See, that's why I asked. I was like, man, put this damn list together, brother. I know you're like, there's some collusion.
Speaker 1:Came from me. Just know that it made it made about it.
Speaker 2:It's funny.
Speaker 1:But how amazing it must have been to vacation back in the day when you would just go with no technology and no contact with not just work, but just any kind of BS. You know what mean?
Speaker 2:Like, I
Speaker 1:was like, that our Maryland house. Like, imagine going to Maryland for a week and leaving our phones at home. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what that would feel like.
Speaker 1:You have a detox from bullshit. You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2:That week that I'm down the shore, that, like, in the middle like, at the beginning of the day, I work. At the end of the day, I work.
Speaker 1:But the
Speaker 2:middle, from, like, I guess, maybe, like, ten to, like, three or whatever when I'm at the beach, I don't bring my electronics. Yeah. Same. To the point where to the point where I start shooting film. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I brought my film camera to,
Speaker 1:you know, take of yours.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I probably wanna say.
Speaker 2:What else you got up next?
Speaker 1:I only have two more, but I have one more point on that effort.
Speaker 2:You're leaving the technology behind.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Whatever. We we can get back to it.
Speaker 2:There are while you're thinking, there are solutions nowadays. Like, you you know, you get a light phone. You could you know, you can get devices, you know, if you don't wanna completely cut the cord that you could still stay in touch.
Speaker 1:Well, we're nowhere once we're world renowned entrepreneurs and we can cut away, like, but that is my goal to one day be off the grid like that. Like, I don't I don't want to partake in social media the way the world does anymore. Like, it really became apparent in cove during COVID. Mhmm. When Joe Rogan was doing his podcast, and he's this hit me hard, but he was like, someone out there under a waterfall right now without a phone or technology doesn't know what COVID is, and they're they're just fine.
Speaker 1:You know what mean?
Speaker 2:They're living they're living their life.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like, that's what I aspired. My level of disconnection is, like and you and I, we weren't even on really social media before. You way more than me, but before we started doing Fiwan. And again, we have social media to thank for our business.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I'm a it's a it's a like I said, it's a tool. And, like, you're either gonna use the tools or tools are gonna use you. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what it comes down to. So I have the same dream where I was just telling somebody the other day, there's an entrepreneur. I forget exactly who he was, but he only does business by landline. Mhmm. And I'm like, that's me.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm gonna do that. But to a certain degree, that's the vision I have for myself.
Speaker 1:Like, I'm
Speaker 2:only gonna do my thing, I'm gonna have my landline, I'm gonna do Yeah. But in reality, I don't think I'd do that. In reality, I think what I would do is master the tool to develop a habit and a relationship with it, where and I don't think my relationship's terrible with it now, but a relationship where it doesn't I use the tool. The tool doesn't use me. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know?
Speaker 1:Amanda's dad always had a thing about me working having an office at home Mhmm. And working at home because he said, I never brought my home my work home with me. Always loved it, which at least the the whole arm of about it?
Speaker 2:Yeah. We talked about it. I mean, like, for me, I've seen both sides of the spectrum. Like, I've only worked in the office because I started my career at 18, 19 years old. Even though I was in tech, I was only in the office.
Speaker 2:Then I went my first business, I was home solely, worked from home for a bunch of years. And you know, now, you know, I much more prefer HQ. But
Speaker 1:Alright. Two more. I'd kinda touch on this with the work thing.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Work with music or in science, I guess, you had to pick.
Speaker 2:I like both. If I had to pick one that I had to stick with for the rest of my life, I'd definitely say work with music. Yeah. Definitely.
Speaker 1:And then we talked about this with Frank. Cheat meal or cheat day?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go with meal a %. And it's just like, hey, man. Like, it doesn't make my stomach or my my soul feel good to just, like, trash my progress, man.
Speaker 1:And it's yesterday, I told a man that I like, I didn't eat any bars or anything, like, kinda processed. Yesterday, I just looked like I was feeling kinda junky. I just decided to switch it off. And you just feel better when you eat better. So, like, you don't have to throw all of your progress out the window for Right.
Speaker 2:Right. Plus there's levels to it. Like, that's the other thing. Like, I don't think we made that when we had the great cheesesteak debate. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't think we made that that clarification. Like, there's levels to it. Like, if you're just starting to dial in your nutrition and eat single ingredient whole foods
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's, like, it's it's tough for you, then go nuts on Saturday or whatever. If that's what you need to release the valve so that you can keep going, fine. But there's levels to it. You I think everybody ultimately gets to a point where it maybe just becomes a meal or just like, oh, hey. Every once in a while, I'm gonna treat myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know? But I'm hard out on eating shit that is gonna make my stomach f'd up Yeah. And me feel out of alignment with, like, who
Speaker 1:I Belly conscious always, dude.
Speaker 2:No. For sure. Belly conscious.
Speaker 1:Gut health is the new health. Yeah. Health.
Speaker 2:Gut health is the new health.
Speaker 1:Health begins in the gut. Right? Socrates?
Speaker 2:Yeah. There you
Speaker 1:go. But that's all I had. Do you any any last minute this or that's that came to mind?
Speaker 2:No. What I wanted to do is kinda, like, put together a this or that for you and like surprise you at the end. But I really I really don't have one because your list was exhaustive, challenging. It was really good. It was some good work.
Speaker 2:I
Speaker 1:mean, mean
Speaker 2:Drew Drew was good work.
Speaker 1:I'm getting pretty good at concocting these fun podcast episodes.
Speaker 2:Feel like
Speaker 1:I don't think anything's beating our branding one, though, where I held up the
Speaker 2:That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you you're you're settling into, you know, your lane. Like, this is this is good.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? This is good. Like, I can only be gift Joey, like Brianna said. I can only be gift Joey, like, once a month if you're lucky.
Speaker 1:True. True.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm like, not that fun.
Speaker 1:Gift Joey.
Speaker 2:You know? So Alright.
Speaker 1:Well, we don't have anything else to
Speaker 2:add. No.
Speaker 1:We need the feeling. Reminder. Right? Always choose hard work over handouts. Always choose effort over entitlement.
Speaker 1:And remember, no one owes you and no one owes you. You're one of the few. Now let's hunt.