W3GMS Thursday Night Roundtable

This week’s roundtable opened with Bill KC3OOK in Oxford welcoming participants and inviting newcomers to join the conversation. Several operators introduced themselves, and early audio checks noted some intermod interference during check-ins.
The group highlighted key repeater details: the roundtable runs every Thursday at 8 p.m. on the W3GMS Parkesburg repeater (146.985 MHz, PL 100 Hz / 94.8 Hz receive). Operators were reminded to visit w3gmsrepeater.com for updates and resources.
There was also mention of the Monday Night Workbench Net at 8 p.m., hosted this week by KC3SQI Wayne, which focuses on technical questions and station setup discussions. The atmosphere of the evening stayed relaxed and conversational, with stations sharing brief personal updates and acknowledging the value of having a strong community on the repeater.
Technical Questions & Answers
Technical exchanges focused on operating practices and station setup.
  • Check-in Order – The group clarified digital vs. RF check-ins, with priority given to short-time digital stations via Echolink and AllStar before moving to RF operators.
  • New Radio Setup – One participant sought feedback on properly configuring a newly acquired transceiver, referencing prior guidance from experienced operators.
  • Engineering Experience – An operator shared insights from a career in the radio and television industry, adding depth to the technical discussion.
  • Practical Guidance – Advice was offered on running suitable power levels, using digital linking options, and making sure radios are tested before being put fully into service.

What is W3GMS Thursday Night Roundtable?

Every Thursday evening at 8pm the Crew of 146.985 W3GMS/R get together on air to host a weekly informal net with varying hosts and topics

Good evening and welcome to the 985 Roundtable.

My name is Bill and I'm located in Oxford and I'll be your host for tonight's roundtable.

Before I go any further, just make sure, am I getting an okay?

Thank you, Bill.

Thank you, Ron.

Well, we meet every Thursday night here at 8 p.m. on the W3GMS Parksburg Repeater, 146.95.

The PL tone is 100 hertz and for tone, squelch, on receive, use 94.8 hertz.

We invite you to take a look at the repeater website.

Just look for W3GMSRepeater.com.

As I've said many times, it's a really, really good resource.

It's good to check it out from time to time as new things are added.

Besides the roundtable, this repeater also hosts the 985 Workbench on Monday evenings at 8 p.m.

The Workbench focuses on answering technical questions as well exploring topics related to setting up and operating your station.

And I believe this Monday night, your host will be KC3SQI, Wayne.

Newcomers are very welcome and encouraged to check in.

If you can't stay long, feel free to call in during the short-time check-ins at the beginning of the roundtable.

Our discussions are informal, passing the mic around, and the order in which stations call in.

So I encourage you to know who checks in right after you.

So you will be able to turn over the mic, so you will be able to turn the mic over, sorry, to that station when you finish your comments.

Begin with a question of the discussion starter.

You can answer that if you wish and comment about other subjects as well.

If you have any suggestions or questions about the roundtable, contact Phil, KC3CIB, Jim, or AF3Z.

Both are good on QRZ.

We also ask you to be aware that on occasion the repeater experiences intermod interference.

Please run the maximum power or be prepared to check in digitally through Echolink or AllStar.

We want to hear you.

To be able to use Echolink and AllStar on 985, you need to register with us.

Directions for doing so can be found on the website.

Again, W3GMSrepeater.com.

Also, when the intermod is present, before starting the transmission, give a short call.

Am I getting in okay?

Once the host confirms that, then you can share your longer comments.

Now, don't be too quick to talk.

Pause a couple seconds before hitting the press-to-talk switch.

This is good repeater etiquette, and the pauses are especially helpful to those on AllStar and Echolink.

When you do click the pit button, wait a second before starting to talk.

We don't want to miss what you say first.

It takes a moment for the repeater to process your PL tone.

Also, the repeater has a three-minute timer.

If you talk for more than three minutes without letting up on your mic button, the repeater shuts down completely until you release your pit switch.

So every two or three minutes, please release the mic button just for a moment.

Then you can continue.

So, we're now going to start with short-time check-ins.

People that can't stay longer, short-time check-ins.

We're going to start with short-time digital stations using Echolink or AllStar.

I will leave long pauses to make it easier for you to check-in.

Digital stations, please call now.

This is Whiskey 3, Juliet Alpha Mike, W3JAM on AllStar.

Copy W3JAM.

Are there any other digital short-time check-ins?

Please call now.

All right.

Well, nothing heard.

Now, we'll take RF check-ins or any other digital check-ins.

Just leave a pause.

It's KC3OOK taking check-ins.

This is KB3ZUV.

Short-timer on the RF side.

That's KB3ZU uniform.

Victor Adam in West Broward County.

This is KB3ZIM.

Kilo Bravo 3.

Zulu India Mike.

Bob.

Calling out of East Fallowfield Township.

I'm in here for a short time.

All right.

So far for short time, we have W3JAM, KB3ZUV, and KB3ZIM.

So, are there any other short-time check-ins before we get started?

All right.

Well, nothing heard.

Well, I had two questions, and I flipped the coin, and so we're going with ancestry tonight.

Our question tonight is, what do you know about your family ancestry, your family history?

How far back does that go?

My other question was going to be, have you ever met anyone famous or know anyone famous?

So, we'll kind of tie that in.

Is there anyone that you're, any distant relative or close relative that is famous or known?

So, our question tonight is ancestry.

And again, our short-time list is W3JAM, KB3ZUV, and KB3ZIM.

So, Jeff, I'll turn it over to you.

W3JAM, KC3OOK.

Okay, Bill.

Fine business.

KC3OOK.

A.A.M.

Here on the digital side, getting used to, in Studio B, trying to get some of the work done in advance of tomorrow morning.

The ponies.

And getting used to this new Heil headset mic that I have for my HT, my FT-70.

That's my, in the Studio A.

But using this Heil headset mic for the first time.

Seems like a really good fit for, like, MCOM use and stuff.

Everybody else in the room doesn't have to hear your business.

Anyway, as far as ancestry goes,

into that.

I know, obviously, the family is Scottish.

On my father's side, I know they were in the country at the time of the Civil War.

His family was in the country, that is, at the time of the Civil War.

But from what part of Scotland they hail, I haven't a clue.

I did meet a cousin some year, well, it was at my grandfather's funeral.

And she had done a lot of research.

But, of course, I took info and to follow up with her and never did.

So that's kind of a mystery.

And I don't know that my sister's really done a lot of research.

I don't know that my sister's really done a lot of research either.

I do know that my sister's really done a lot of research.

I do know that my sister's really done a lot of research.

I'm from Scotland.

They're from Edinburgh.

My uncle always jokes, don't go back to Edinburgh and drop your...

I don't want them coming after you.

But I do have it as a...

...island.

And Edinburgh in particular.

And I'll see if I can locate any of those folks.

I know they're...

I know my mother's maiden name.

I know what clan that is.

To see what relatives I could dig up over there.

My mother's father, I think his family was German.

I think.

And my father's mother was Russian.

Actually Ukrainian, I believe.

And of course, we all know what's going on over there.

Now, that was actually on a bucket list of mine as well to get over to Kiev.

It was very nice.

It used to be a very nice city.

I thought I'd hate to be there now.

But...

Over...

My grandmother, my father's mother, came over at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia.

And they've been here since.

So I do remember attending some functions over in New Jersey.

Burial, funerals and whatnot.

That were...

Officiated by someone from the Russian Orthodox Church.

And where we had vodka and borscht for lunch.

As a 7th grader, I thought that was quite the treat.

The vodka part, anyway.

I picked some of it up.

But haven't really...

Nowhere near fluent in the language, that's for sure.

Anyway, that's part number one.

And Bill, real fast, remind me.

I'm trying to...

I'm multitasking here.

What was the second question?

Oh, have I met anybody famous or anyone famous?

The answer is...

I don't think so.

But I did have opportunity when I was working down in Virginia.

When I was living in Northern Virginia and working at one of the three-letter agencies, I was in the building the day that Bill Clinton was there to have a meeting with the director of said three-letter agency.

But I declined to get in line to meet him.

Because at the time, I didn't like him.

I said, I'm not going to meet him.

Otherwise, I could have shook the hand of a sitting president.

So that might have been something worth doing that I regret not doing.

And the other thing is, I did meet Harry Callis in Wallingford one night on my way back from Villanova University to Swarthmore.

I was a night student at Villanova in the late...

When the heck was that?

Late 80s.

And a car came alongside and they were looking for...

They were asking for directions.

And we got out and I said, well, I think I know where that is.

Let me...

Here, let's pull over and I'll explain.

So I get out and here to come to find it's Harry Callis.

So, of course, a couple of...

Swinging along drive and all of that.

And it was quite interesting.

But there you go.

Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Back to work in Studio B.

I will listen out.

Seven, three to all.

Over to you, Adam.

KB3 ZUV, W3J.

Thanks, Jeff.

Before I get in here, W3J and KB3 ZUV.

Before I launch into my old buzzer, I'm going to get a signal report and see how I'm doing

and see if there's any... any intermod or anything else going on.

Fine, Adam.

Good copy.

KC-3O-K.

KC-3O-K, KB3 ZUV.

Thanks, Bill.

Thanks for taking the chair.

And some good questions tonight.

I hope everybody's enjoying this little sneak preview of fall tonight.

It's been a wonderful break.

Hopefully, those of you who spent time out on the coast, everything is going okay there

with the storm passing by.

I'm sure we haven't seen the end of summer.

I'm sure summer will be back and we'll have another heat wave or two before it's all said

and done.

But I'm really enjoying this weather.

But yeah, good questions, Bill.

The first one, well, I could go into a really, really long old buzzer and I should try not to.

Jeff, I have a lot of Eastern European ancestry.

My mother was 100% Eastern European.

She was half Russian and half Ukrainian.

So her father, my grandfather, his family was from what is now Belarus, although I think they

identified more as Russian than Belarusian.

And then my mother's mother, my grandmother's family were ethnically Ukrainian, although the area

they were from is actually not part of Ukraine today.

It's actually part of Poland.

And after all the borders got drawn and redrawn and drawn again and people got moved around,

the village where my grandmother's family was from is in Poland now.

Not all that far from Krakow.

So I could go over there and see it and they still actually have the Ukrainian.

I believe they were Catholic.

They were Ukrainian Catholic.

Most Ukrainians, the Eastern Orthodox Church or the Greek Orthodox Church, you'll sometimes

hear called as more popular, but there's a small number of Ukrainians that were actually

Ukrainian Catholic.

Not Roman Catholic, Ukrainian Catholic.

So they followed Pope, but they don't have, they have slightly different doctrinal rules.

And so that church is still there and there's a lot of family history there that I've covered.

A lot of that's been uploaded online.

I do a lot of armchair genealogy on the internet through ancestry.com.

My father's family, we're actually, my mother's family, we weren't able to trace back that far.

I can't really trace it back any further than like 1860 or 1870.

But my father's family were able to trace all the way back to Switzerland in the 1500s.

So he's ethnically German part of Switzerland.

So my father is German.

That's how he got my last name Scheibel.

Although I, even my grandfather was, should not have been Scheibel.

He should have been a democracy.

His parents passed away and be adopted.

But my father is German, Irish, and English.

So that's a roughly even mixture of all, I'd say.

Even though I have a German last name, I'm barely even a poor German.

But yeah, I've done quite a bit of genealogy.

And my genealogy quest, which was fulfilled, which I was very excited to do,

is I also did Rachel, my wife's genealogy.

And I found out how closely related I am.

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and the internet movie database only, like, dropping the phone.

I would not have known that.

I think that not long after that I would have given me a picture of the guy.

I have a big fan of the people that I actually spent a lot of time.

As far as other celebrities, any number of musicians, professional artists, a lot of other clients,

like, Ed McCauvery, the Super Bowl winning one,

and Tom Allen, and Tom Allen, and Tom Allen,

Several other...

...and then we'll hang out after the house. Not really any house. Not like I was hanging out with Jimmy Cage or...

...or...Itsy Eyes or anything.

...and then we'll hang out with Jimmy Cage or anything.

...and then we'll hang out with Jimmy Cage or anything.

...and then we'll hang out with Jimmy Cage or anything.

I wish I could say other people who say anything from the hand radio, people who say anything from the hand radio, right?

Craigie was the president of the WRL. She ran...

...she ran Mark over in the boat with the monster for a while.

...so I guess that would have been an excuse for me.

But yeah, not that many.

I thought we were going to have some other people.

And actually, this is all important to me to go to next, Bob, who's that I am.

Bob and I both know Brock H. Jr.

...who's a local committee for the library here in West Bracken County.

...and they were born out of one of the people who were really like the integration of the WRL.

...and the Ken Ball Run.

...and seriously, that cross-country race.

...and the father was very young.

...and that author, I'm sorry, driver Maggie from Burr, where I'm very young.

...very, you know, E-tier or E-tier celebrity right here in West Bracken County.

...I met Bob from the WRL.

...and the number of people who were in the park culture in the Iowa River.

...and the result.

Bob, take it away.

KV-3 Z-IM.

KV-3 Z-IM.

KV-3 is at IM. Good evening everyone. The Intermod was hammering through over 90% of the time that Adam was talking.

So I did hear him and caught most of it, but man was that hammering. So I decided I'm going to crank it up to a full 100 watts and see if I can override it here. I hope it helps a little bit.

You're making it in over it, Bob. Casey, are you okay?

Wonderful to see so many people at breakfast last week, by the way. It wasn't the biggest crowd we ever had, but it was a very, very substantial crowd.

And just a pleasure to see everybody there, I will say that. Actually was doing a little HF on air here tonight, this evening, which I haven't been able to get to in a long time.

So very good. And I often have Thursday night conflicts and don't get to participate too much in the round table. So glad I'm here, even though I have to be a short time.

Anyway, uh, ancestry. Well, I'm half Italian, half German. My father was an only child whose father died when he was in his teens. So I had, except for his mother, my grandmother, I had virtually no, uh, I knew no family on that side. Although, uh, uh, my father's family did, uh, uh, when they came to Scranton, Pennsylvania from Germany, I do know, uh, I do know their origin.

origins in southern Germany and Stuttgart and what have you.

And I knew my dad had some uncles and stuff there, but again, didn't really know any of them.

On the other side, my mother, 100% spaghetti sauce in her veins, Italian, one of 13 children.

Well, actually, 11.

Two of them died when they were very young in infancy, even, I think, or early childhood.

But I knew all of them because I had 20 aunts and uncles, a zillion cousins, knew the family background going all the way back to Calabria and Sicily.

In fact, I even visited my grandfather's house where his birthplace is in Palermo, Terminimerece, in Sicily, a couple of years ago when I went on an automotive excursion.

And so I was steeped in that for my entire life and growing up.

So there you go.

That's what I know of the ancestry.

So I have the German last name, but I was undated in swimming and nothing but Italian life all my life growing up.

So there you go.

And did I meet anybody famous?

Well, I don't really have much of a comment to offer there other than to say that I sure have.

But that was strictly due to the nature of my work, because I spent the majority of my life working in the radio and television industry.

And as such, I produced the national syndicated musical show, which I got to meet, you name it, all sorts of musical stars, big name performers throughout that period of time in the studio as a producer and everything.

And also all the things associated with it.

So it was just the nature of my job.

So I'm not going to drop names or anyone else.

But there were major, massive musical artists that I knew, befriended some of them and worked with over the period of time.

And I also traveled around the United States and Canada for 15 years working in the automotive industry and the major auto show circuit.

And as a result of that, I spent a lot of time in all the major cities, Miami, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, whatever.

And I was always afforded opportunities to meet people in the motion picture industry, actors, singers, whatever, some of them with whom I actually got the opportunity to, oh, go out with, have dinner with, go out in the town with whatever, wherever major city I was in.

And so, again, it was just the nature of my job.

Didn't think anything of it other than to say that, you know, they, I just met a lot of them.

I mean, very famous people.

You know, like I was in Nashville and George Jones, one of the biggest country legends ever.

He and I spent time together.

He wanted me to show them around a special high-performance car, whatever, which I did.

But anyway, all kinds of things from the automotive world.

I've met a lot of Formula One world champion drivers I knew, Mario Andretti, Niki Lauda, whatever.

Show business-wise, oh, yikes.

When I was producing Dance Party USA and the USA Network.

So, anyway, yeah.

None actually of my relatives that I can think of were what you would call famous.

Although I will say, you know, I spent over 21 years.

In fact, I still kind of do it on occasion.

On the air, on the national QVC, national shopping network.

So, and in those studios, I met a lot of big shots, entertainment people over the years.

And astronauts and what have you.

So, yeah.

I was lucky there.

I was fortunate there.

Some of them were wonderful.

Some of them not so.

But there you go.

I was already.

I just realized I'm way too long-winded than I wanted to be.

And I said I'd be a short-timer.

But I should have stayed short there.

Anyway.

Great to see the people I saw at breakfast.

I hope to try to get on here more on Thursday nights.

So, Bill, I'll turn it back over to you as net control.

And I wish everyone 7-3.

And, yes, Adam was right.

We have more summer coming up.

It'll be back into the mid to high 80s in the next several days.

And I hope it lasts a long time.

Anyway.

So, I'm going to toss it back over to KC-3.

Okay.

Bill, thanks for taking the chair tonight.

This is KB3ZIM.

Bob.

Wish me every 173.

God bless.

KB3ZIM.

KC-3-0-OK.

Thanks, Bob.

And I second that.

I hope we have a lot more summer.

Before we go on, I'll just make one last call.

Is there anyone else for the short-time list?

Short-time only.

If so, please go ahead and call now.

A-3-L-H.

A-3-L-H.

A-3-L-H.

Leon, we got you here.

Have you heard the question?

About ancestry, that's what I know.

What was the question?

Basically, what do you know about your family history or your ancestry?

And I was going to have another question about if you know someone famous.

And I was kind of tying it in.

Is there anyone distantly related or closely related that is famous or known?

And you put it in if you met anyone famous.

It's kind of interesting.

So, over to you, Leon.

A-8-3-L-H.

KC-3-0-OK.

All right.

Did I meet anybody famous?

I met Daniel Boone.

Yep.

KC-3.

ZMB.

I met him.

Daniel Boone.

Not so important.

You know, I didn't meet anybody important, I don't think.

But, you know, when they were talking about important people, it came to mind.

We have a Davy Crockett also living.

That's about 10 miles from.

But I can't really say I met him.

But we have those type of people in our area.

Yeah.

All right.

For ancestry.

We come from Switzerland.

And we met in the area where the Hunter House is.

We came over and landed our boat in Philadelphia.

And we walked from Philadelphia all the way to that Hunter House in Willow Street.

I don't know.

They say it took about 10 days to 2 weeks.

I don't think anybody really knows.

It didn't take me that long to walk it now.

It was a long Route 30.

But they didn't have Route 30 back then.

They had Indian trails.

They followed.

Imagine they had some kind of route that they ran a wagon going.

But they walked across there and did that.

And from Switzerland, we came from Germany.

And we are German Swiss, as they say.

And where we came from, according.

Now, this gets a little sketchy.

Who kept records this far back?

But back in the 1300s, supposedly, we came from Britain.

And from Britain, because people move around.

They moved around.

And who knows where they moved before they came to the place in Germany.

They don't know.

But let me take a second here.

Yeah, we come from Switzerland over.

They rode a boat across.

I don't know how long that ever would have taken to go ahead and come and ride across the ocean and come to here.

I mean, they tell me Switzerland is not very big.

I met some people here a while back from Switzerland.

We talked about things.

They said, wait a minute.

Switzerland ain't that very big.

You could easily drive it like an hour or two.

I forget how short a time they said it would take to ride across.

But we came from a place called Zurich, Switzerland.

And they jumped on a boat.

And they came across.

Landed in Philadelphia.

And they walked to the Hans' airhouse.

That's about what I would know about our ancestries.

And like I said, I didn't mean anybody important.

I mean, we did not meet the original Daniel Boone.

I'm old, but I ain't that old.

And the original Davy Crockett.

But we have a Davy Crockett.

We have a Daniel Boone.

All right.

This is AA3LH.

Back to net control.

AA3LH.

KC3OOK.

Good to hear you tonight, Leon.

And I also know that Daniel Boone.

Nice guy.

So with that, we're going to go ahead and go into the regular portion of the round table,

those who can stay longer.

And we'll start again with short-time check-ins for Echolink or All-Star.

Echolink or All-Star only for the regular list.

Please go ahead and call now.

KC3OOK.

W3QP.

All right.

I've got Tim, W3QP.

Any other Echolink or All-Star stations?

Okay.

It was a good long pause.

Well, we'll go to RF or any check-ins for the regular list.

Please call now.

Whiskey Alpha 3, Victor Echo Echo, WA3 VEE.

WA3 King Fox Tango, WA3 KFT.

3SCY Kilo Charlie 3, Sierra Charlie Yankee.

AB3AP, Mike in Affendale.

NA3CW.

W3GMS.

AC3, CLI, Kilo Charlie 3, Zulu, Lena, India, Sean in Westchester.

KD3, VPI, this is Simon in Westchester.

AF3Z, if you copy me, let me know when you do the list, but I'm on RF AF3Z.

Alright, I'll go through the list as I have it so far, and then we'll see if there's anyone else.

So we're starting out with W3QP, then WA3VEE, WA3KFT, KC3FCY, AB3AP, NA3CW, KC3VLI, KD3VPI, and AF3Z.

And yes, Jim, you're making it in.

That Intermod was in there with a vengeance on Adam.

So, any other stations that would like to check in tonight before we get started?

Please call.

I was doing a bunch of stuff, and I'm not sure you heard me or not. W3GMS.

Sorry, Joe. No, I did not get you, but we've got you on the list now. Is there anyone else besides Joe? Please go ahead and call.

All right. Well, I'll go through the question one more time, and I'll go through the list quickly, and we'll get started.

And the question tonight is, what do you know about your family history or your ancestry?

And related to that, is there anyone both near or distantly related that is famous or known in history?

And, of course, also, because I do think it's kind of interesting, have you met anyone famous?

So, with that, the list is W3QP, WA3BEE, WA3KFT, KC3SCY, AB3AP, NA3CW, KC3ZLI, KD3VPI, AF3Z, and W3GMS.

So, we'll start at the top with Tim, W3QP, KC3OK.

KC3OK, and the group, this is W3QP.

I don't know as much as I should about my family history.

On my dad's side, I have an aunt that is into genealogy.

Her name is Jeannie, amusingly enough.

And I need to sit down and talk to her at some point.

My father's side of the family comes from all over Europe, but I don't know the details.

I do know that there is a strong English contingent.

And I've heard, and I don't know the details, that my great-great-great-something uncle was the Duke of something or another.

I'm sure if you have English heritage and you go back far enough, you probably have a connection like that, too.

But I thought it was interesting.

My mother's family, my grandfather is from England, and my great-grandparents on my mother's side are both from Hungary.

So I think that makes me a quarter Hungarian, which makes sense.

I'm usually pretty hungry.

As for famous people, my dad used to own a baseball card business.

And he used to get all kinds of ballplayers to come in to sign baseball cards.

And there was a story, and I don't remember how old I was.

You know, I'm going to say I was six or eight years old.

But he took me down to the Philadelphia airport to meet some Hall of Famer that he had flown in to do a signing, probably at a show.

And I have very vague memories, and he's told the story of me sitting at a bar in the Philadelphia airport, drinking a root beer or a soda or something,

while he and this Hall of Famer had a couple of beers and talked about baseball and stuff like that.

And I, for the life of me, don't even know who the Hall of Famer was.

I should probably find that out.

That is all for me.

I will turn it over to Ron, WA3VEE.

This is W3QP.

Very, very good, Tim.

Yes, I know there's a home on my signal fixing it, but just didn't get around to it yet.

Actually, modulating it, too.

Okay.

So, yeah, Ancestry.

I'll keep my transmission short.

Kind of balance out some of the longer ones.

But anyway, Polish and German, pretty much.

A little bit of Russian thrown in, a little bit of Lithuanian.

On my side, on my wife's side, there's actually some Cherokee Indian.

So that's a short of it there.

Famous people.

Met the former first lady.

That was purely nonpolitical, totally circumstantial.

Jill Biden used to be on faculty at Delaware Tech, and she came to do a commencement address.

I think in 2016, I had the opportunity to actually chat with her for a bit and also get my picture taken with her.

And again, totally circumstantial.

Also, ended up meeting one time in 2006.

We were on our way to Philadelphia International Airport.

We were on our way to the Northern Tier High Adventure Scout Base up in northern Minnesota.

So we were flying from Philadelphia to Minneapolis.

And the next gate over, there was a bunch of guys, boys, teenagers,

huddled around this bearded fat guy, basically.

Sorry about that.

But nonetheless, he looked like he was signing autographs.

I had no idea who this guy was.

So I went over there to find out.

And I had no idea because I'm not a sports person, but it turned out to be Andy Reid.

And I said to the guy with me, I said, who is that?

Basically, yeah, I know.

Shake your heads.

Absolutely.

But I had no idea.

And also, I did have the opportunity one time to meet the granddaughter of the founder of Pep Boys on one of my many trips from Silicon Valley back to Philadelphia.

And I remember her name was Ziz Daner.

It's the last name.

But I was about as close to famous people as I got.

The people I think are famous, at least to me, are the ones that are very accomplished.

And I have a whole list of those.

There's no question about it.

Those are famous people to me.

John, WA3KFT to take at WA3VE.

WA3VE.

This is WA3KFT.

Okay.

Thank you, Ron.

Well, the closest I came to famous was, I shook the hand that shook the hand of Ronald Reagan.

He was in television, and he was sponsored by General Electric Company.

My father worked at a General Electric incandescent light bulb factory, and he visited that plant.

So Dad got a chance to shake his hand, and I shook Dad's hand.

But my family history, it goes way back.

And as I instructed all my college classes on the first day, I said, you know the country Holland,

and you know that that country is below sea level.

And they have these large earthen dams that hold back the water.

Well, one of those dams sprung a leak, and a boy put his finger in it to stop the leak.

They called him a Dykeman.

So I don't know whether that's where my original name came from or not, but it's a good story,

and my students would remember it.

I am the 16th generation in this country.

Jan Dykeman, J-A-N, settled on Manhattan.

He had a 350-acre farm.

His next-door neighbor had a 300-acre farm on Manhattan.

I'm not terribly happy with my ancestors because I wish we had held on to that 350 acres.

I could get an awful lot of rent money, even though I may have to split it with 200 or 300 other heirs.

But still, that'd be a lot of rent money.

Anyway, I am fortunate enough to have a book, a hardbound book, that has 16 chapters in it.

I'm in chapter 16.

And it is the history of Jan, J-A-N, Dykeman, who settled on Manhattan Island.

And I am a direct descendant of him.

And each chapter of the book is another generation.

So it just goes on and on and on and on and on.

And then there's a lot of other incidental Dykemans and so forth that are not in my bloodline.

I met another fellow, last name Dykeman, and right now I can't remember his first name.

A ham operator.

And in QRZ, one of the things you can do is you can look up and you can find everybody with your last name.

There are four of us.

My brother is one.

I am one.

And this fellow lived in Peacel, New York, but he and his wife moved up to New England, further north, to live closer to their daughter.

And he was down here on business.

And he came and he saw me.

And I found him in...

I found his bloodline in the Dykeman book.

And while he was here, I showed it to him and his ancestors and so forth.

He's not in my bloodline.

Let's put it that way.

He broke off somewhere around the sixth generation.

And he came through that way.

So, yeah, famous people in that respect.

Some of my old relatives.

My great-great-grandfather Dykeman.

Blacksmith.

And his son, Charles Dykeman, was also a blacksmith with him.

That Dykeman book has a photograph of the two of them standing in front of their blacksmith shop.

And my dad is named after two of the Dykemans.

Charles Augustus Dykeman.

And I am named after my two grandfathers.

John Gardner and Charles Dykeman.

So, my name is John Charles Dykeman.

Yeah, that's about all I can remember at the tip of my tongue at the moment.

Over to you, Luke.

KC3 SCY.

WS3 King Fox Tango.

Go ahead, Luke.

John, good to hear you tonight.

And good to hear everybody else on the net.

And Bill, thanks for hosting.

So, um, into the questions.

Have I ever met anyone real famous?

Can't...

No name comes to my mind.

Um, I was out at the Indy 500 track.

I met, um, a...

I think he was, like, the pit crew manager of, um, the winning car for F...

For the 2001 Indy 500.

I mean...

I mean 2021, not 2001.

And the guy also won in 2017.

He had a couple wins.

He had two or three more wins.

So, I got some...

I forget what they're called.

Air caps.

They're the ones that go on your tires.

I should know the name of those.

But I got a couple of them.

Um, ancestor family history.

Well, I know my mom's 100% Irish.

And I only know, um, her direct line, um, back to maybe...

I think around 1880.

And then, um, my mom's grandmother goes back to, I think, around 1860.

And then, my dad has our line going back to, I think, around 1650.

And a couple other lines.

I think my grandmother also goes back to around that time over in Germany.

So, um, I guess I'm 50% Irish then.

And about 25%, 30% German.

And the rest is, uh, English.

So, anyways, um, today I was over at Joe's and we were working on the riser.

And I got that all...

We're basically ready to start sanding and staining.

So, it's coming along pretty good.

I'll turn it over to KC3AP.

This is KC3SCY.

KC3SCY.

A-B-3-A-T.

Thanks, Luke.

And good evening, all.

Um, yeah, I'll do...

I'll answer the questions in reverse.

That I've never met anyone famous.

I met Bill Bergey, um, from the Eagles way back when at a wedding.

But, um, my parents were friends with the Bertinellis.

And Valerie Bertinelli used to give her hand-me-downs to my sister,

who was ever so proud once Valerie became famous.

And then she never parted with him.

At least not for a long time.

Uh, ancestors...

Kind of, um...

Interesting.

Uh, different than most, I suppose.

I was adopted through the Delaware Orphan's Court system.

Um, so I knew my adoptive side.

And only in the past five, six years did I learn my bio side and learn that my father, bio father's family is from Nag Nagashal, Ireland.

And I've been lucky enough to travel and meet very warmly welcoming people.

Um...

And with that, I will send it over to you, Chuck.

And I'll send it over to you, Chuck.

And I'll send it over to you.

And I'll send it over to you.

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And I'll send it over to you.

And I'll send it over to you.

And I'll send it over to you.

Sometimes we have people that try to break in.

AB-3-AP.

Excuse me.

NA-3-CW.

Uh...

Yeah, I'll try not to take too much more time.

Um...

Famous people?

Probably not.

Uh...

At least not generally.

I did get to meet Luis Palau.

Um...

Who's not...

You know, world famous...

You know, not...

He's quite famous in some circles.

He was sort of...

The Billy Graham of South America.

And he came to Guam while I was there.

To do a campaign.

And I got to meet him at the airport.

Very nice man.

He walked out of the airport.

And when you walk out of the airport.

Which is...

In Guam is practically refrigerated.

And you walk out the door.

And the tropical air hits you like you walked into a hair dryer.

Well, he walked out just at sunset.

Which overlooks the Pacific.

The airport is a former Air Force base.

It's up on a plateau.

So you can really see the horizon really well.

He walks out the door.

Stops and says...

Is it always like this?

And, you know, people say...

Well, you know, it's like this...

You know, it's hot most of the time.

And blah, blah, blah.

And he says...

No, no, no, no.

The sunset.

Is it always like this?

And we say...

Well, yeah, pretty much.

He says...

How can you bear it?

It's so beautiful.

So that was Louis' pullout.

I've met some people that I think were important, but not necessarily famous.

And not related to any of them.

Now, Patty is related at some level to Conrad Hilton of the Hilton Hotels.

Her grandmother was a Hilton.

My ancestors, the whites, go back to...

My daughter has done some study.

The whites go back to where a bunch of whites came over from Ireland and sort of populated

eastern North Carolina in a place called Birdie County.

And apparently there's a lot of whites there.

And that's probably where my family came from.

My father came from Middlesex, North Carolina.

Right in the 30s, late 30s, migrated with his brothers north up to Philadelphia.

And that's where he met my mother.

However, one time I was in Scotland.

Actually, I was there twice.

And it was the wintertime.

And so my director that I was with from J&J, we got on a tour bus for Loch Ness to go in the boat.

And the bus driver, since there was only about three of us on the bus, the bus driver, I asked my boss, my director, you know, what his family name was.

And he said, you know, his family name.

And he says, oh, that's a Scots name, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And he goes on and on about that.

And he asked me what my family name is or where my family was from.

I said, well, my daughter has traced us back to Ireland.

He says, what's your name?

I said, White.

And he says, ah, just because you're a barn in a barn doesn't make you a horse.

Huh?

He says, he says, White is a Scots name.

But in the Pictou, Lamont and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And he goes on and on and on about the Whites.

And I said, how do you know so much about the Whites?

He says, my name is Kenny White.

So it's possible that they came not from Ireland, but through Ireland.

But my daughter has not been able to find any records that go back prior to that.

And that was about 1850s, I think, when a whole collection of Whites came over.

However, my mother's side goes back through the Johnsons.

Look, her maiden name was Shroofer.

That goes back.

We can trace that back to the early 1800s.

But she's also got a link to the Johnsons.

And the Johnsons go back to the founding of the colony of New Jersey.

And back to the Massachusetts Bay Colony.

So that goes back about as far as you can go, as far as we can take it.

Because there weren't a lot of records before that.

So her side probably came from England.

Her father's people, of course, from Germany.

My people, at least through Ireland, if not Scotland.

And there you go.

So enough of my palaver.

Over to Sean.

KC-3-ZLI, NA-3-CW.

NA-3-CW, KC-3-ZLI.

I know a little bit about my family history.

I love this kind of stuff.

And a great question, by the way.

I've done some research.

My mom, before she passed away, did some research on her side.

And I did some research on my dad's side.

And, one second, sorry.

Sorry, I didn't know if there was going to be a break there.

So, my, my, I'm mostly Irish, but I also, I'm a little bit Greek and British.

And, um, I know my grandparents were both 100% Irish on my dad's side.

My mom, um, Greek, Irish, and British.

Um, I know my great-grandfather was a police officer in Yonkers.

My mom and dad both hail from, like, you know, Yonkers area.

Um, my great-grandfather was a cop.

And he, uh, he actually saved a bunch of people from, uh, a fire.

But then died of a, uh, like, he lifted somebody out of a fire.

And his, uh, he had a hernia.

And it, and it, you know, they just, or, uh, something burst.

And he died when my grandfather was really young.

Um, my mom's grandfather owned a candy shop on Long Island.

Um, their, their name is Lupus, which is, you know, pretty Greek.

Um, I, I have a little Greek, but I, I'm, look Irish.

I, I mean, I, you know, my name is Quilty, so that's pretty Irish, Sean Quilty.

Um, and, uh, yeah, I don't know.

I know that, uh, some people on my mom's side

hail from Ring of Kerry area.

Um, I'm trying to think here.

Um, yeah, I don't know.

I, I love learning about family history.

It's great.

Um, I haven't done a DNA test, but, um, I know, well, I, I did one in college.

And I was, it was pretty basic back then.

It was 2006.

And it was mostly, like, East European era.

And, um, there was some Native American in there.

And who knows where that came from?

because most of my immediate...

Sorry about that, my plug came out of my power supply, so that's odd.

Anyway, I know a little bit about that.

I have some family history, and I've looked up my great-grandfather, who lives in Yonkers,

but I know enough about them to know that it's cool to know who they were.

Yeah, I don't know.

As far as famous people, I've met some famous people in bands that probably no one really cares about.

I guess the most famous person in any band that I've met is Tom DeLonge from Blink-182.

And then, even though I'm not Italian, I'm a huge Sopranos fan,

and I have met a bunch of people from the Sopranos cast.

I met Dominic Giannis, who played Uncle Junior, Michael Imperioli, Steve Schirippa, the guy who played Furio,

Drea Dimitri... yeah, just a bunch of people from the Sopranos I've met, and that's pretty much it.

Although, one time I was delayed in Philadelphia Airport, and M. Night Shyamalan was there, the guy who wrote and directed the Sixth Sense.

And I was like, that's M. Night Shyamalan.

And we were on the same flight to California, and it was like super delayed, and everyone was kind of in a bad mood.

And I saw him, and I looked at him, and he gave me this look like,

I know who you know that I am, but let's not do this right now.

So I just gave him a nod, and yeah, that's pretty much it.

And forgive me, I'm putting together a tricycle for my two-year-old's birthday on Saturday,

so I missed who was next to me, so I'm going to pass it back to NetControl,

and then I'll write down who's after me, so KC3ZLI.

KC3OOK, thanks Sean, and next it goes over to Simon, KD3BPI, this is KC3OOK.

KC3OOK, this is KD3BPI. Am I getting through all right?

Coming in fine, Simon.

That's great, glad to hear. I've got a new radio here, and wanted to make sure it was set up right.

Anyway, this is a good question. I enjoy it.

My mom is a genealogy buff.

She enjoys, we've gone grave hunting, like you could say, mostly out towards Harrisburg.

A lot of my mom's side of the family grew up in Dauphin County,

and so they had farmland out there until, I believe it was the late 1930s,

is when they began to divest themselves of the cattle farm.

It's near where Three Mile Island is now located.

There's a cemetery overlooking the Susquehanna. I think that's the river there.

And you can see, of course, the cooling towers.

And they owned a farm in that region, right near the river.

But as far as people group, I guess, in European terms, mostly English and German, Swiss.

There's some, I guess at the time, it was what's now considered Eastern Europe, maybe near Eastern Europe, Transylvania.

So I think now it's like Czech Republic, maybe some Ukraine, maybe some of that region.

That's on my mom's side.

My dad's side, and where I get my last name, Giovino, is Italian.

The name was Giovino.

And supposedly, this is a family legend, I can't fact check this, unfortunately.

There was some organized crime happening in Sicily, where my dad's great-grandparents hailed from.

And this activity led them to come to New York City in the early 20th century, I believe, in the 1910s, 1920s.

And they did a lot of different things in New York, Queens and surrounding boroughs.

But things like Uncle Louie, Great Uncle Louie, or maybe Great Great Uncle Louie to me, owned a grocery store.

I always thought that was kind of cool growing up.

But yeah, then my grandfather got a job with the Atlas Chemical Company in Wilmington.

And so he and my grandmother came down from New York City and raised a family here.

Well, it was in Wilmington, Delaware, and now here I am in Westchester.

My mom is from Downingtown.

So then, you know, it was my mom's side went Dauphin County to Downingtown.

And then my dad's side, at least in recent memory, Italy, New York City, to Wilmington, Delaware.

And that kind of ties it up.

But yeah, very good question.

Thanks for the opportunity to yap about that.

I do enjoy it.

And as for famous people, I have not met many famous people.

I don't think I've met any.

So nothing to add there.

But thanks for running the net.

And it's great fun.

And I'll pass it off to Jim, AF3Z.

This is KD3BPI.

Good, Simon.

Thank you.

And I assume I'm getting through, but I'll check, Bill.

Yes, Jim.

You're doing fine.

Thank you very much.

And good evening, everybody.

AF3Z here.

My dad was quite into the genealogy thing.

And he, I was at a point in my life that I didn't care too much, of course.

And he would get to talking about it.

He said, Dad, I'll check it all out when you write your book.

And eventually he did put together a loose leaf thing when there was a family reunion of sorts.

I've got a copy of it, but it's not a book that you read.

It's more like, you know, lists and family trees and copies of marriages and deaths and stuff like that.

But I do have his book, so to speak.

But apparently, Gowdy is a Scotch name.

And I forget who was talking about it.

But apparently we came from Ireland.

But Scots-Irish was not a mixture of, you know, blood mixture of people.

It was Scots who lived in a corner of Ireland.

And just guessing, it might have been famine or warfare or something got them over there.

Who knows?

But, so that's where we were from, Ireland.

And the Gowdy side of my family came into this country in the 1700s.

He traced back, interestingly enough, I was named after my mother's father, James.

But the first Gowdy my dad could find in our line was a James Gowdy back in the 1700s.

But he was never able to make any connections back across the sea.

I talked to a guy, a Gowdy in Scotland or somewhere that ran a Gowdy store over there by Ham Radio one time.

But we have no idea if we were connected or not.

And so that's it.

Oh, my mother's side, my mother's maiden name was Kromer, K-R-O-M-E-R.

And that's more German background.

But the interesting thing, you're talking about famous people.

Some of them were famous, but not to us these days.

My mother's family and I forget the exact relationship.

One of her relatives had the Stroll Family Band, S-T-R-O-H-L, Stroll Family Band, around the Pottstown area.

And I had heard about this for years.

And even, and I'm not sure where it is, but there's a picture of the family band with their bass drum with Stroll,

the name Stroll written on it and everything.

And there were some things that I wondered if they were true or not.

And then I got a hold of newspapers.com through somebody else in Ginger's family.

And I looked up some stuff and sure enough, I found some articles about the Stroll Family Band.

So they were famous.

But the most famous connection, the leader of that band, the father in the family, played the trumpet.

And he could apparently play two trumpets at the same time out of different sides of his mouth.

And once upon a time, John Phillips Sousa invited him to join his band.

And my relative said no.

He didn't want anybody else telling him what to do.

So he stayed with the Stroll Family Band, I guess.

So that's my family and connections.

I don't know anything about when my mother's side came over here.

But as far as other famous people, and these will be, one will be famous to a lot of you, the other one maybe not so much.

When I was up in Mount Gretna and the camp meeting association there, I helped line up speakers and stuff.

And so one of the speakers when I lined up was a sports person.

And when I was arranging things, he pointed out he had to have a first class seat on the airplane to fly in wherever he was coming from.

And at first I thought, well, that's kind of presumptuous.

But then I realized he's so tall, he couldn't have existed anywhere else.

And that was Meadowlark Lemon of the Globetrotters.

And the other person, out of the jazz world, Marion McPartland, came and did a concert in Mount Gretna one time.

And I got to meet Marion McPartland.

And I know Bill O.K. knows about Marion McPartland.

I don't know if anybody else does.

So that's my connections.

So, now, last but not least, W3GMSAF3Z.

Very good.

Thanks, Bill, for taking the captain's chair tonight.

I am one and done.

It's getting a little late.

And I got to get up early tomorrow because another mentoring day with Luke about the riser.

And the riser is really, really looking good.

Well, I'm not going to make a detailed chronological listing of all the twists and turns of my family.

But I pulled out our family Bible, which is a very old Bible.

It's probably four inches thick and quite large.

And it starts with the fells.

And the first one recorded is on August 19, 1668.

And they emanated from Cumberland, England.

So that's that.

And then that fell branch through marriage, it became a combination of English and German.

And I don't know, I would say about a 50-50 mix.

And that continues.

But this, you know, you talk about the ancestor DNA.

This is all very handwritten.

And it's been transcribed over again by various folks in my family.

It sits on the last surviving son of my fell wing.

I now have this gorgeous Bible with all this written in.

Famous people?

Well, that's a tough one because you have to define first what is famous.

It has to be a celebrity.

Is somebody on TV?

Is it a politician?

Is it a scientist who accomplishes great things?

So I really, I'm going to defer to answer that one.

Over to you, Bill.

Oh, one last thing since this is my swan song.

I sent out an email about, I don't know, half an hour, 45 minutes ago for the post-mortem for our 2025 field day.

This summer field day.

We'll be getting together on Zoom at 7 o'clock.

This coming Wednesday.

And Ron is going to host it.

And all his information of how to connect is there.

So I really, really encourage everybody.

If you were at the field day site and did anything with field day, if you could please, please attend that Zoom meeting, it would be great.

Also, there's no blind carbon copy on the email addresses.

Take a look at it.

If I missed anybody, just let me know and I will forward it to them.

Or you can forward it to them.

7-3.

KC-3-O-O-K.

W-3-G-M-S.

Now clear.

W-3-G-M-S.

KC-3-O-O-K.

Thanks, Joe.

And before I go on, I'll just take one other call.

See if there's anybody else out there that's been listening.

If you're new, newly got your license, you're listening, like to check in.

Please go ahead and call now.

W3MFB

N3CRE

Well, you're not new, but I got W3MFB Mike and Charlie N3CRE

and the question is, and narrow it down a little bit, is what do you know about your family history

and is there anyone you're related to in any way that is somewhat famous?

And to get to Joe's comment, yeah, I didn't really elaborate on that question.

It was an afterthought to me.

It's least interesting for people in entertainment and sports.

I think it's people in other fields that I find more interesting.

It's over to you, Mike. W3MFB. Turn it over to N3CRE.

This is KC300K.

W3MFB. Let's see here. Good question. Yeah, I've been listening for a little bit.

I was chatting with Barry and Dave, N2VUZ, on 75 meters for about an hour.

And I went down because I hadn't had dinner and then came back up with a banana sandwich with mayo.

Mayonnaise, banana sandwich, gotta love it.

It's a southern thing, but somehow I started eating it like almost 25 years ago.

Anyway, so, and then I heard you guys over here and been listening ever since.

So thank you, thank you, Bill, for driving the bus.

Eh, well, I don't know too much about the biological end, you know, being adopted and all.

But I do know, I did get to meet my mother, my biological mother back in 18, yeah, 2018, 2019.

And got her side of the family figured out and whatnot.

So I'm, ancestry, let's do this quick.

Sorry, mostly, even on the dad's sperm donor or whatever.

Sorry, Joe.

On the dad's side, he's similar in nationality as well.

So I did an ancestry test and that's how I found out.

But it's like the bulk of it, mostly in Slovakia.

So Czechoslovakia and Slovakia.

A little bit of Romanian, a little bit of Russian, a lot more Ukraine.

A little bit in the Baltic Sea area, which is totally away from that area.

And her family, mom's family, came over here during World War II, escaped Nazis.

And her dad worked at the company that made elastic stop nuts.

You know, the nuts that have the little nylon in it so they don't vibrate off a screw.

And the U.S. military bought a whole bunch of those to put on their planes and tanks and jeeps and all sorts of things.

So that's about it there.

So Subcarpathian Mountain region, that's pretty much where I'm from.

Bloodline, anyway.

Anybody famous?

Couldn't tell you.

Have I met people famous?

Yes.

It's a laundry list.

And these people I've met, either quick conversations like single-serving conversations or a little bit more.

And I'm just going to run them off real quick before I pass it to Charlie.

If you guys know Deadliest Catch, it's been on Discovery Channel for a long time.

I met Sig Hansen and Jonathan and Andy.

Sig Hansen is of the Northwestern Captain.

And then Jonathan and Andy Hilstrand.

I was at a book signing, and they're the Time Bandit Captains.

I was at a book signing, but I kind of hanged out late with my girlfriend at the time, and we got to just, you know, have a little round table with those three guys.

And that was kind of fun.

Beyond just waiting in line and saying hello and whatnot.

So that was fun.

I had a conversation with Jim Gardner, Action 6 News anchor, as we all know.

Down at Columbia University.

He was there to do something.

I don't know.

And my sister and my mom and dad and myself were there to look at Columbia University.

So we got to talk to him for about 30 minutes.

So that was awesome.

I used to live in North Bergen, and LVI, I think it was, he was saying about the Sopranos.

Or VIL, I'm sorry.

Yeah, so I used to live in North Bergen, Park Ridge.

That's where James Gandolfini is buried, actually, right now, in Park Ridge, New Jersey.

But anyway, like where I lived, six blocks to the west of me was Richard Nixon and his wife.

So we used to go trick-or-treating there, of course, when we were kids.

So really just met them both at the door, and that's about it.

Let's see here.

Who else we got here?

Lloyd Lindsey Young.

He was a news weatherman on WPIX Channel 11 New York.

Got to meet him at some weather club meetings.

My sister and I used to go to up that way.

Cleet Boyer, he was third baseman for the New York Yankees.

And I got to meet him at a couple of sporting events, baseball events, down in Park Ridge as well.

And who else we got?

Johnny Knoxville from, I won't say it on the air, but you guys know MTV show, Bam Mangera.

He kind of made a local star out of himself.

Used to skateboard with that guy.

He's crazy.

He was crazy when he was 15 years old skateboarding.

So he grew up and was a little nutso there as well.

I met two other people.

Chris Christie, who was my dad's and family friend that's pretty much an uncle.

Joe Rubilada.

It was his cousin.

It was Chris Christie.

I met when Joe died.

I met Chris Christie at Joe's funeral along with Erin Burnett from CNN, the news anchor.

She's married to Joe's son, David Rubilada.

David, he's like an older cousin to me.

So I got to finally meet Erin and everything.

So that was kind of cool.

So it was more of like a family kind of conversation at a funeral.

Go figure.

I miss Joe a lot.

I miss Joe a lot.

Anyway.

But yeah, that's it for me, I think.

And it's really interesting and weird.

the way life, who you run into.

So I'll pass it to Charlie.

N3 C-R-E-W-3 M-F-B.

All right.

Yeah.

I sort of listened to this conversation.

Thought I'd chime in.

Yeah.

My father, my stepfather, Simpson is a name that's been around.

Actually, the only famous thing would be is if you go back to the cousins, I think we were related to the Secretary of War, Harris Simpson, under Roosevelt.

My mom's side did do a lot in genealogy.

She traced things back very well all through England and everything.

She knows the boat they came over on.

Her maiden name was Remington.

Unfortunately, the Remington name died with my grandmother, as she only had three daughters.

So the Remington name died at that point.

But it was an extensive name and went back very far.

My biological father, I know nothing about.

I did do a DNA.

It says I came from Ireland.

My biological father was left on a step in West Philadelphia.

I have the documentation of it that he was left on a step in a church, a step in Philadelphia.

And he was then adopted by a family in Delaware named Skeen.

Other than that, I don't know a lot anymore.

But it was very nice to listen to the conversation.

I guess I'll go back to Ned.

N3CRE.

N3CRE.

Okay, thank you, Charlie.

Well, we've got quite a list.

I think we have 17 here tonight.

And I'm going to keep my, in real brief, it's an interesting question.

And one of the things I like about both the breakfast and the round table is it really lets us know each other as people.

It's a much more in-depth conversation.

So for me, the big picture is we know everything about the family in great detail back to the early 1740s.

And then it draws a blank.

We know that by marriage from then on, we're mostly, on the maternal side, Swedish.

And Andrew Schenlein is the first name that we find.

And he was born in 1842.

We know there was a Schenlein farm not too long after that.

So I don't know.

There's just no record of his parents or where he's from.

People tell me that Schenlein is something for German, made Schellen or something.

People say it's Shoemaker.

But I'm not real sure about how accurate some of the assumptions are.

For example, people say Holstein is a German name, for sure, you know, the Holstein cow.

But we know with great detail that on the maternal side, there's Swedish Holsteins in America.

There's several books that have been written.

And so we know on one side it's Swedish.

The other side may be German.

But what we do know is everyone named Schenlein in America is a descendant of that original couple.

There is no other reference after that.

Every reference there is tied together through the family tree.

So that's about it there.

Distant, distant relative.

My grandmother was a lodge, and I think her second cousin was Henry Cabot Lodge,

who I know that she would see at reunions.

But you had to be an old-timer to know who he was.

And as far as other people is famous, I was actually thinking of, in the field of architecture,

I've met and worked with Bob Venturi.

And if you're in architecture, he's famous.

If you're not, you'll have no idea who he is.

But so that's about it for me.

We'll start again.

I'll make one more quick last call so you can just anybody else there.

And we'll go through the list.

I think the only one that's out is Joe.

So, Jim, you'll turn it over to Mike.

So, W3QP, KC3-00K.

Take it away for a second round.

KC3-00K. and the group.

This is W3QP.

Really interesting stories, Jim, to listen to everybody.

And I certainly do agree with Joe and Ron that famousness is subjective.

I'll go a different direction.

One of the, to me, famous people that I met that it was a really neat occasion, a gentleman by the name of Gerald Combs, who wrote an application called EtherReal that eventually got renamed to Wireshark.

This is a network analysis tool that lets you take that, that little spark on the wire that is the Internet coming into your box and let you see what's going on.

And I've used that professionally to solve so many problems.

It was just a real core tool in my toolbox.

And so, they started having a conference a number of years ago, and I was able to go there and meet with them.

Just a real nice, humble guy that just wanted to set out and solve problems.

So, that was really cool.

That is all for me, so I will hand it over to Ron, WA3VE.

This is W3QP.

Good, Tim.

Hold on a second here.

They can't modulate this at all, so.

Okay, very good.

I have a loose ground somewhere here, so I have to bond a couple things together to get rid of this.

Oh, I know what the problem is.

I just have to fix it.

Anyway, not much more to add tonight.

Did meet Kathy Orr one time in person when I took the IEEE Delaware Bay section on a tour of Channel 3, just before she went over to 29.

Very, very nice lady.

Entertained a lot of questions and very, very pleasant.

So, she's the weather lady over on 29 now.

And let's see.

That's about it.

Some of the things that are famous to me, like I said, people with accomplishments.

Down at the University of Delaware, there is a display case.

And in that display case, it's in Evans Hall.

Evans Hall is the home of the electrical engineering department down there.

And, Joe, I know you know Evans Hall very well from having mentored Daniel.

And I know it well also from many, many IEEE meetings and everything and being an executive on the IEEE section down there on the committee.

In that display case, there's an illustration that was by a company by the name of Fingerworks.

And I think I've told this story before, but that company was founded by a student, a master's student, and his professor at the University of Delaware.

And that Fingerworks is something that I still think about today every time I use my smartphone.

Because the swiping mechanism, which is a capacitive voltage displacement across the screen of your phone, that's how that works.

That was invented at the University of Delaware.

So every time you swipe your phone, you run your index finger across the screen, and you scroll up or down or left or right, that action was founded at the University of Delaware.

And the student was an IEEE student at the University in Evans Hall.

That's a famous person to me.

Almost nobody knows who he is.

I think his name was Westerbrook.

If you go on Wikipedia and you look up Fingerworks, there's a complete story behind that and how he actually sold that to Apple Corporation.

Those are famous people to me.

WA3KFT, WA3VE73.

And Simon, after you're done, if you want to give me a call, that's fine.

I'll be waiting for your call.

WA3KFT, WA3VE73.

WA3KFT, WA3VE73.

Okay, very good, Ron.

WA3VE73 here.

Well, my grandpa on the Dykeman side was Dutch.

And his wife was German.

And my grandpa on mom's side was English.

And his wife was German.

So I guess I have more German in me than Dutch and English.

But the name Dykeman is Dutch.

It does come from Holland.

And as I said, Jan, J-A-N Dykeman was the first one.

And I am the 16th generation in this country.

I do have a cousin.

My father's brother.

One of his kids is also named Jan Dykeman.

I don't know whether he knows the history of the family or not.

But I was lucky enough to get a hardbound book that was researched by a few ladies in New York City.

You go to New York, you're going to find Dykemans all over the place.

You're going to find a Dykeman street.

You're going to find a Dykeman subway stop.

And if you go up Broadway to about 204th, there's a New York City public park.

It is called the Dykeman house that dates back to the 1850s.

So I can go visit relatives.

I have been to that Dykeman house.

I have seen my son took a photograph of the subway stop on Dykeman Street.

So, yep.

There's lots and lots and lots of Dykemans in New York City.

Okay.

I don't know whether Luke is still with us or not.

This is WA3KFT.

7th rail.

Doesn't sound like he's there.

So, over to you, Mike.

AB3AP.

KC3OOK.

Thank you, Bill.

Yeah, I was just about ready to hit transmit when you did.

AB3AP here.

Very interesting to hear everybody's backgrounds and people they've met.

I'll just add a little final story because I find my wife's background very interesting.

Her family is from the Shanghai, China region.

Her mom's dad was a judge and he had sentenced many of those annoying communist activists to jail time.

So, when the government fell, Chiang Kai-shek's government fell and the communists took over, he realized they had better pack their bags and hightail it pretty quickly.

And that's just what they did.

Almost immediately ended up in that renegade province of Taiwan.

And that's where my wife was born.

And then they were...

Her dad was in the Merchant Marine.

And they were looking for better opportunities.

And one thing led to another.

And she and I ended up making it permanent.

Crossed paths and hit it off.

So, 7-3 off.

And Chuck, back to you.

NA3CW, AB3AP.

Thank you, Mike.

AB3AP, NA3CW.

Well, quite a lot of background here and all kinds of people.

Yeah, we looked at...

My daughter looked at census data going back many, many years.

And I not only have nobody famous in my family that I'm aware of,

I don't even have anybody in my family that had any money.

If you look back through the census data, they're all listed as, like, laborer.

So, I come from a long line of people that worked hard and didn't have any money.

So, I never have to worry about falling back on my ancestry and looking down my nose at people.

So, there.

Yeah, nothing much new to report.

Last couple days, we've been making applesauce.

We've made, let's see, 10 quarts yesterday.

Made 9 quarts today.

So, we're probably going to make each one as a bushel.

So, we'll probably do one more bushel and call it a year because we have some leftover from last year.

We do like applesauce.

We have canned some peach jam.

We have canned green beans.

A whole lot of those.

And so on.

So, I love this time of year because this is when all the produce comes out.

And I love, love fresh produce.

And we've been enjoying peaches and vanilla ice cream.

So, I'm gaining weight on that.

But that's not going to last very long.

Maybe the weight will, but the peaches won't.

So, there you go.

We get our apples and our peaches.

And a lot of times, our green beans.

For the canning bunch, we didn't get them there.

But we got all this other stuff at the AB Orchards out on White Oak Road out to our west a little bit.

And that's an Amish operation.

And they got a lot of good stuff there.

So, and my corn comes exclusively from Kings, which is within sight of the house.

They're expensive.

And we don't buy anything else there but their corn.

But their corn is really good.

So, that's my exciting life and my exciting family background as far as I know it.

So, tomorrow I get my eyes dilated so I'll be unable to read for the rest of the day.

But just annual or semi-annual checkup.

My mother had, talk about family background, my mother had glaucoma.

And apparently my eyes are structured for it, but I do not have it yet.

And hopefully tomorrow that trend will continue.

So, 7-3 and over to Sean.

KC-3 is Z-L-I, NA-3-CW.

NA-3-CW, KC-3-Z-L-I.

Yeah, I don't have much more to add.

It was just good talking to you guys and good question and good hearing about everybody's background.

So, I'll say 7-3 and goodnight.

And I wrote it down.

And I will pass it along to KD-3-BPI.

KC-3-Z-L-I.

73.

KD-3-BPI.

Yeah.

Not much more to add from here either.

This was fun.

My first time coming to the round table.

And it was, well, it was just great to get to know all of you a little bit better and hear about your families.

And I really enjoy that.

I really enjoy that.

Like I said, my mom was really into it.

Genealogy growing up.

And I think I got a little bit of that.

And so, it's just so cool to hear people talk about themselves.

I do enjoy it.

I know it's something that is perhaps a poor conversation sometimes.

But I don't believe that one bit.

I don't believe that.

I think that's made up by people who are a little bit too cranky.

Don't enjoy the finer things in life.

Like hearing about your friends' backgrounds.

And so, yeah.

Great to be here.

Very glad to be here.

And 73 to all.

I'll pass it over to Jim AF3Z.

Okay.

Thank you, Simon.

And good to have you here, too.

One thing that dawned on me at some point, talking about bloodlines and all the genealogy stuff.

When you look at a family tree, you realize how diluted that bloodline supposedly is.

And it's kind of fascinating.

My parents took a trip out to Indiana.

The Gowdy clan came in through Pennsylvania, but then moved out to Indiana.

One of them was like a state senator or something out there, way, way, way back.

But anyway, they found some old cemetery overgrown by some farm fields or something.

And they found a headstone in there for James Gowdy.

I don't remember what date or anything.

Excuse me.

That was.

But anyway, somewhere I have a picture of that.

Then they, again, my name came not from the Gowdy side, but from the Cromer.

James E. Cromer was my grandfather, my mother's father.

So that's where the James to me came from.

But anyway, there were a couple of Jameses back there in the Gowdy line.

So anyway, sort of interesting stuff.

And I've never tried the DNA thing.

And I just say this somewhat humorously, though.

There's probably people out there doing it.

Like a lot of other things, somebody could take your money and then have a computer program

generate a report that has nothing to do with reality.

But I'm not saying they're all that way, but it always just struck me as kind of funny.

And, of course, you can get your dog done now, too, and find out what your mutt really is made of.

Never did that either.

So it's been fun.

Thank you all very much.

I've been strumming my guitar here a little bit.

I've gotten away from it, so I made sure I picked it up tonight for a while.

So there you be, and Joe left.

So Mike, good to hear, and also Charlie.

Good to hear you guys tack on the end.

W3, MFB, AF3Z.

Nothing heard.

I think you turned it over to Charlie.

Jim, was Mike there?

W3, MFB.

I turned it over to Mike, but he didn't come back.

I'm sorry.

I apologize.

I apologize.

Okay.

Mike might have wandered off for another cup of coffee.

Charlie, are you there?

N3-C-R-E.

KC-3-O-O-K.

N3-C-R-E.

Yep.

Very interesting discussion.

And it's really interesting when you think about all our urges and stuff like that.

How lucky we are, though, to be here in a good old U.S. sometimes.

I'll just say 73s, and I'll continue to listen.

Good night.

N3-C-R-E.

N3-C-R-E.

KC-3-O-O-K.

And, well, so far, Charlie, you're our tail gunner.

But we like, before we shut things down, to just make one last call this evening to see if anyone else wants to check in.

If you've been listening or just tuned in, we'd like to hear from you.

So please go ahead and last call.

It's KC-3-O-O-K.

Well, nothing heard.

Well, I want to say thanks to all the stations for checking in to the 985 roundtable.

And a big thank you to Joe, W3GMS, for making the 985 repeater available for the roundtable.

You're invited to use the repeater often.

And that's a great way to show that you appreciate the gift of 985 to the amateur radio community.

And finally, I hope to hear from you again on Monday evening at 8 p.m. for the 985 workbench,

where, again, it'll be Wayne, KC-3-SQI.

And also, stay tuned for next Thursday night when it'll be Luke, KC-3-SCY, and Joe, W3GMS.

So this concludes the roundtable for tonight.

Feel free to stick around and keep the conversation going if you wish.

So have a good night.

Great weekend.

7-3.

This is KC-3-O-O-K.

Clear.

WA3VEE.

Still around, Simon?

WA3VEE.

KD3BPI.

Sure am.

I was just about to call you, Ron.

How are you doing this evening?

I may as well use the RF chain here.

Yeah, I've got a ground loop issue here.

I know exactly what it is.

That's what the hum is, all 60 hertz getting into the microphone.

Anyway, congrats on hitting the radio.

What are you using for a mobile antenna?

It's a mag mount right now.

I couldn't tell you the exact wavelength, but I did verify in the specs that it could handle the maximum 50 watts output that the Yaesu can give it.

It's a no brand name, unfortunately.

I spent $30 on it on Amazon, and it's, well, it seems to be working.

But I admit I don't know enough about antennas to really tell if it's working or not.

There you go.

It leads me to my second point.

Yeah, I have a Diamond name brand mag mount.

They generally run around $100 for the whole thing.

But that one's been on my old van, and now it's on the new Silver Porcupine, as you have the terrifying experience of riding in.

It works well.

It works very well.

What we should do is have me bring my antenna analyzer over, and let's just take a look at what the SWR is to make sure that everything is copacetic.

So mine runs on two meters.

Mine runs about a 1.32 to 1, and on 70 centimeters, right around the middle of the repeater portion, around 445, 446.

It runs about a 1.35.

So those are the kinds of numbers you want, at least, or better, actually.

So we need to take a look at that, make sure that that antenna is performing properly.

Does it have any adjustment, like an Allen wrench, for any tuning?

No, no, it's just a stud mount onto the mag base.

It does have a loading coil in it, but does that make a difference?

It probably makes it a dual band by brand.

I presume it is a dual band, I hope, right?

Yeah, that's what it was sold as, and I assume it's dual band.

It seems to be, I can get 70 centimeters and two meters on it, but like I said, I don't know how well.

That's one of your most important parts there is the antenna for mobile.

So we'll take a look at it and see what it does.

The other thing is that I think I mentioned to you, I think I wrote, you want a little, that 60-amp fuse, is that on your 8-gauge wire?

That's right. The way I have it mounted in the engine bit, I haven't wired it up yet, but it's going to take, there's a big main fuse that's in the hundreds of amps, and I was going to take the other side of that and put it to this 60-amp circuit breaker, and then take that 8-gauge over to the, take it inside the cabin, and then run the radio off of that.

Well, that and an inverter at some point, because it's over-specced, you know, 8-gauge is good for, what, 60 amps, I think.

Yeah, definitely.

What I was going to say, for protection for the radio, you want a lot closer fuse than 60.

I don't think anything I have here is rated at 60 amps for all the radios I have.

Mobile are fixed, so generally speaking, like for instance, up at field day,

Oh, come on, hold on a second here.

Yeah, see, I've got a big connection here someplace, too.

The cats are walking around, it's 9,700, so as soon as they touch something or whatever, or purr against something, or rub their tail or something, it affects the grounding.

Anyway, yeah, something's flaky.

Anyway, yeah, all the radios up there, I think, refuse the 25 amps.

So, that gives a better protection.

There's really not much of a surge.

You're not talking about any kind of magnetization current, like with a transformer or anything like that.

So, there might be a little bit, but generally 25 amps is adequate for a radio, for a 50 watt, for sure.

They only draw 13 or 14 or 15 amps, depending upon the radio.

But the thing is that for any catastrophic, even a 20 would do.

Are those blade-type fuses?

Yeah, so I have that 60 amp fuse circuit breaker, actually.

It's feeding an aux fuse panel in the car, and then that's going to have a 15 amp fuse, blade-style fuse, for the radio itself.

Just the positive side.

And then the Yaesu harness actually came with two of the glass tube-type ones, and those are both on the positive and the negative wires on there.

So, I guess triple fused, it's the circuit breaker, and then the 15 amp blade fuse, and then the two glass, the two glass 3AG.

I'm struggling to find the name for those, but I think it's more what you're describing, that level of safety.

Very good.

Yeah, you're covered then.

Great.

Yeah, those are cartridge fuses.

I'll work with those a million times back at Agilent in the old days, back when I was in power design.

Excellent.

All the way around.

Okay.

Now, programming.

Yes.

I have over here, I think I wrote to you, I have pretty exclusively RT Systems programming programs for all my radios, and it's wonderful.

It's really wonderful.

Now, I know I do a lot of different repeaters, so when that happens, and I've got everything from,

from the W3OC stuff to Chester County Fire aircraft, all kinds of stuff programmed in to my radios, besides the actual amateur radio repeaters and stuff.

So, if you have a compatible, if you have RT systems, it's trivial, because I would send you over a file, and you basically take a cut and paste from that file, and just paste it right on in.

But we should do that together, because I don't have the FT-150 program.

If I did, it would be trivial.

I haven't done it.

I have 500 channels programmed in less than five minutes.

That's how easy it is.

But what format do you need?

I could do CSV delimited, tab delimited, Excel type stuff.

Will it take that?

Go ahead.

That is a good question.

So, I had used Chirp to program my Balfang, and so I exported a CSV from that, and then attempted to import it into the Yaesu programming software.

I don't even remember what the name of that is.

Let me look real quick.

It's the ADMS-17 programming software.

That software didn't take the CSV from Chirp.

So, I'm assuming that I will need to get this RT system software, which looks good.

I'm on their website right now.

And if that's what you use, you know, clearly, you've been in the game longer than I have, so you know the things I don't.

So, I'd be happy to get used to that software, if you think that would be good.

Back to you.

Absolutely.

A guy by the name of Kenny Hartley, who used to be manager of HRO down in Newcastle, sadly passed from heart issues.

Great guy.

He's the one that exposed me to RT systems programs.

After that, I never looked back.

It was just tremendous.

And I'm just looking here on, I think I sent you the link to the FT-150.

And I'm looking here right now.

Let me see if I can do a search here.

FT, just bear with me one second.

FT-150 are, yeah, I can't find it.

Hold on one second here.

I know I saw it earlier.

I sent you the link.

It is very, very, very easy to use.

Once you program the stuff in, the hardest part is programming everything in.

And if you're doing trips, for instance, if you look at my file, what you'll find is you'll find the local repeaters around here.

And then you'll find repeaters in a certain geographic direction, like going west on the turnpike.

You'll see Harrisburg and then Carlisle, PA, Shippensburg, on out that way.

You'll then see things to the north.

You'll see things to the south, like Wilmington.

The Delaware is the famous Delaware City repeater, 448825.

And I'm on a lot going on down there.

And on Tuesday nights for check-in.

You'll see repeaters down to Delaware, et cetera, et cetera.

So I have things programmed geographically and also directionally.

And then there's satellites and there's aircraft and all kinds of other stuff in there as well.

But repeater book is a very, very good resource for programming.

If you're going, for instance, you said you're going down to West Virginia.

I don't know if it's this weekend.

It's getting kind of close.

But nonetheless, that would be a good thing to do.

Usually when I plan a trip, standby.

Plan a trip.

For instance, I went up to the AWA conference one time up in Rochester.

I will look at a map of counties in Pennsylvania and then New York State.

And I will go to repeater book.

I have repeater book on another screen.

And then the third screen, I'll have my RT system stuff up.

And I'll actually be programming.

I'll actually be putting the repeaters into the spreadsheet on RT systems.

When I'm done, press a button, downloads in less than a minute to the radio.

So it works very well.

I do that on 6 meters, 220, 2 meters, 70 centimeters.

Even my 991 HF rig is programmed with RT systems software.

So let's see what the...

ADMS sounds like an RT systems program.

So they may have adopted that from way back when.

Yesu may have standardized on that.

Go ahead.

Yeah, that does seem likely.

Perhaps.

Let me look in the about.

It says it's Yesu, but I don't know.

You never know.

Yeah, now I'm looking at RT systems.

Do you need to buy their cable to work with it?

Just out of curiosity.

Not that I would be willing to.

I'm looking at the prices, right?

Oh, no, wait.

I just found it.

Just for...

Just the programming software.

Nice.

Okay.

Now, out of curiosity, this Yesu uses a micro SD card in addition to a programming cable,

but you can use one or the other.

And do you know if the RT system software will be able to...

Like, can it put its file onto an SD card to get imported?

Because once I have it all in the...

In my car, I was thinking of ways that I could avoid, you know, bringing the whole radio out

to reprogram it.

But I don't know if you know of, like, SD card capabilities.

I could just look on the website.

But back to you.

Great question.

I did my FTM 400 that way.

In fact, I have two sitting here on the left side.

I never had an FTM 400 in a car.

I've always had the FTM 100.

And that's easy enough to just bring the radio in.

I have a power supply on my computer desk.

And, of course, a USB hub.

I plug the cable into the hub.

The cable, by the way, for that, and it might be the same for the FTM 150,

the cable plugs directly into the data port on the radio and then goes into the USB hub.

And that's how you communicate with the radio.

Now, I'm sorry to say, on the FTM 400 XDR, yes, I believe I used an SD card to program that.

And I think it can be written, the RT system software stuff can be written to an SD card.

Check to see what cable actually comes with your FTM 150 because you may already have a programming cable.

I know in the case of the FTM 100 and the 400s that I have, it's a cable by the name of SCU, Sierra Charlie Uniform 20.

That came with the radio.

And so I didn't have to buy a cable.

I just plugged that into the USB port, one end, the other end of the data port on the radio,

and downloaded all the channelization from the RT systems program right into the radio over that cable.

So check to see, you may already have a cable.

KD3 BPI WA3 VEE.

WA3 Victor Echo Echo.

KD3 Grass Pounders International.

Yes, indeed.

Now, I did not get a programming cable.

That was an oversight.

When I ordered from DX, I didn't see that the programming cable was explicitly not included with this radio, unfortunately.

And when I got it, and, you know, it is this weekend, unfortunately.

I'm supposed to leave tomorrow afternoon to head down to Durban, West Virginia.

It's actually less than 10 miles from that radio telescope I looked up.

But, so I have to send you pictures.

I have to send you a couple of iPhone pictures.

Food phone pictures.

They'll have an apple in the corner, just to remind.

Anyway.

The, where was I?

I realized that I would not be able to get the programming cable in time.

So that's why I got micro SD cards from Amazon delivered in one day.

And, um, so, um, that's why I asked about the SD card.

Um, but, I'm looking now at this, and it looks like...

Yeah, I'm looking...

Do, do, do.

I mean, for $25, son of a gun.

That's not a bad price at all for a good piece of software.

But, um, yeah, so...

I even forget what your question was now, if you had one.

Sorry about that.

Back to you.

Well, yeah, we're just batting it back and forth.

Let me stand by and see if anybody else wants to join us.

W-A-3-V-E-E.

Pause for the cause there.

Um, well, it's 49.

If you do the program and the cable, and that is generally, um, what I do here.

Now, in the case of, like, some of the Balfangs I have and some of the Elinkos, that cable will work for several different radios.

So once you buy it for one radio, uh, it, it sometimes works for others.

So, that is the USB-77 cable for the, um, FTM-150.

And if you give me a moment, let me see if I have a cable.

I just may have one.

I don't know if that works for other Yaesu radios, but I have a whole spreadsheet of what I actually have here.

So, I can check to see.

I can save you the, uh, the, uh, 25 bucks of having to buy one if you want.

But I'm not sure.

That number doesn't look familiar to me.

So, I'll have to check.

I might be able to actually do that right here on this system.

Uh, I may have the program.

Of all the computers and all the stuff I have over here computer-wise, I don't have these things networked together, which is crazy.

So, I should be able to go from one, I should be able to go to a server and actually look at this stuff.

But let me see if I have, okay, I've got a USB-K4, a 38.

A 57, a 20.

But it does not, no, it doesn't look like I have a 70.

Uh, no, it doesn't look like I have a 77.

So, uh, yeah.

So, it looks like you'll have to buy.

If you want to do it complete, um, do the, uh, programming software and the cable.

That's 49 bucks.

But I can assure you, if you're, if you're programming this radio, it'll be the best 49 bucks you ever spent.

Go ahead.

It seems like it.

I'm looking at, I'm wrestling with the Yaesu software, and it is just not really nice.

And the, the weird thing is there's actually bits of it that are still in Japanese.

Ha ha ha.

Which, I don't know, maybe it speaks to its quality, but I don't know.

It reminds me of using, um, some of those, uh, older, I'm sure you remember the old, uh, GPIB programs with LabVIEW.

And, you know, all of the, uh, the annoying headache that those were to, to figure out.

I used a couple at, um, uh, phase-sensitive innovations.

When I, where I worked with Dan DeSantis there, um, who I know is a, is a good guy.

And I know that you're a good friend of him.

But, um, yeah, I think I'm gonna just pull the trigger right away, actually.

So let me go ahead and add to cart.

Add to cart.

Now, hold on.

Select all required options.

Electronic download.

That's what I want.

I'll just save it for later.

But, yeah, yeah, thanks for this bit of info.

I would have never discovered this software.

I thought that Chirp was the only one that was, uh, considered open source or considered, um, universal, perhaps.

So this is pretty cool.

But, yeah, in other news, have you been doing any woodworking lately?

I've got to make a small, let's just say, roof.

Um, a real tiny, very, very high acute angle, very high angle of attack roof.

And that's going to go on a partition that keeps the cats from getting outside.

And this will prevent the cats from jumping up on top of the partition.

So that is one piece of utility, uh, woodwork I've got to do.

And then, um, I do have some other things I need to get done also.

But most of my time is getting ready for Ham Fest coming up for Mullica Hill.

Uh, I've got a couple things I've checked out.

I have an old vacuum tube, 400D, HPVTVM.

In fact, I've got three of them.

I just don't have time to work on them.

So, uh, I know what's wrong with them.

They need vacuum tubes, um, and stuff like that.

They're, they're, they're very restorable.

So I'm going to offer those at a very good price.

I've got, um, a couple scopes.

And I've got some other things.

I've got a vector, a vector scope, actually.

A TV vector scope for analog TV.

Believe it or not.

Um, probably going to offer that for a very good price.

There's one gentleman I want to run that by in Delaware first.

Oh, it's, uh, it's Dave.

One gentleman you met up at, uh, Valley Forge, uh, KC3AM.

He's a guy that was inside the, uh, the door there inside Valley Forge.

Uh, fellow VE, uh, volunteer examiner from Delaware.

Uh, he does, he does amateur TV.

And so I'll offer it to him first for an excellent, excellent price.

Let's put it that way.

And, um, you know, I've been friends for a long time.

And, um, if that doesn't work, then that, that's the kind of stuff I have.

So I, um, that and a few, uh, bench power supplies and things.

A couple of things from Dell Tech, believe it or not.

Uh, way back when they were going to toss out.

All the proceeds will go to K3DTS for the, uh, education and enrichment of new hams and also hams to be.

So, um, yeah, I, that goes right into my club account, which is, which is very good.

So that's what I've been tied up with.

Uh, but yeah, I've got some more woodworking to do.

Uh, a couple of projects around here.

Mostly utility stuff, if anything else.

Uh, go ahead.

Uh, very interesting.

It seems like, uh, keeping the cats at bay is, uh, a never-ending challenge.

I've heard similar stories from other cat owners.

But, um, that's good.

It's good that you have the means and the, uh, the, uh, skills to resolve it on your own.

I can't imagine.

It's a very intelligent, it's a very, ooh, standby.

Summer's at the door.

I'll be right back.

Absolutely.

KD3BPI WA3VEQRX.

KD3VEE.

This is KD3BPI.

Yeah, Summer had lent me her keys.

We were at her sister's house.

And it was getting to be time to, uh, get on to the Thursday night round table.

So, uh, there, uh, but, um...

Oh, I see the picture of your cat.

That's great.

Oh, that's very nice.

I have the...

Makes me want cats.

Makes me want cats.

But, uh, someday.

Someday.

When we have a house.

This apartment is a little bit too small as it is.

But, uh, anyway.

Anyway.

And as for the, uh, the ham fest.

I have it on my calendar.

September 7th.

And, um, uh, let me know if you'd like to carpool.

Um, though I imagine if you have, you're going to have a pretty full car with all your stuff.

So, so I'll just, uh, I'm happy to drive over there.

Over there on my own.

But that sounds like a good mix of stuff as well.

Interesting, uh, analog television vectorscope.

I have never heard of such a thing.

I can't even imagine what it would look like.

Let me, I'll look that up.

But, um, yeah, let me look that up real quick.

Back to you.

Look up Tektronix, T-E-K-T-R-O-N-I-X, of course, as you know.

1-7-6-5-alpha, 1765-alpha.

That's the vectorscope I have.

Works very well, except I don't have any use for it.

I don't do any analog TV over here.

Any ATV that I would do would use the program MM, Mike Mike, Sierra Sierra, Tango Victor, MM, SSTV.

And that would all be digital stuff.

So it would be a way to decode the actual digital or the analog that comes over the air.

And sometime we get together to do some HF stuff.

I will show you what that actually sounds like.

You can hear it on the air.

I'm not sure if it's audio.

I think it's audio frequency shift keying is how it actually does it, AFSK.

And we talked about that in my two-year communications course, which you guys' double E's never got a chance to take.

Although I actually did have one or two double E's like yourself down at Teltec

who actually signed up for that two-year analog electronics three, it's EL-236 down to college.

They actually signed up to take that.

And then they became HAMS directly because they were so inspired by that course.

But it's just basically algebra trick-based.

It's not calculus or whatever.

And it's the real deal because it's like, okay, this is how this stuff really, truly works without a lot of math overhead,

without any spherical cylindrical coordinates or vector calc or any of that kind of stuff.

It's all the practical side of things.

So like I said before in that course, to go a little bit of a field here, my students would actually use the 968 over the frequency

and megahertz formula, cut some wire.

We'd go out and we'd actually build antennas for like at night.

That would be 7 megahertz, 40 meters, and we'd be making contacts.

The later it got, the further the contacts as the band went long.

And they just couldn't believe it.

They said, oh, wow, this stuff really works.

I said, well, yeah, physics.

And believe it or not, you know, the physics may be the same next week as it is this week.

The laws of physics may not change.

Remember me saying that in a classroom?

It's amazing.

So it brings back some memories.

Anyway, getting back to it.

We can go over together.

That's not a problem because I'll have the porcupine.

I'll have all the frequencies because once we get across the bridges into New Jersey,

we'll be operating amongst ourselves on the output of the repeater on 985 simplex.

KD3 BPI WA3 ZEE.

KD3 BPI WA3 ZEE.

Probably stretching the timer a bit here.

Go ahead.

Yeah, I was just about to catch you.

I heard you drop out there, and I was wondering if we had hit the three-minute mark.

I believe that's the timer.

But you're coming through just fine now.

I think the last thing you said was about going over the bridge in the porcupine.

Back to you.

Signal tonight over here.

Once you get your X-50 up, I will have a good, solid radio circuit with you, and I'll have a good, solid radio circuit with my son up in Lionville.

He was on the other night.

And both you guys are solid over here.

And he was operating from his car.

So, he has a little elevation.

He's about 500 feet above sea level.

But we have Bacton Hill in between us.

So, anyway, that's about it.

And sometime when you get your design going for the riser for your desk, let me know.

And I can tell you pretty much how we can put that together.

That will be a lot of fun.

Joe's working on one right now with Luke.

Dittling, rabbiting, and stuff like that.

And I originally put the design together.

You can see the original riser I did for the VEE shack back in Wilmington in my parents' basement.

I still have that one.

That's out in the garage right now, but it's made out of Philippine mahogany.

And that was way back when, when I first started doing woodworking.

That was about 1978.

Go ahead.

That sounds like such an awesome piece, though.

Make out of mahogany.

And you've had such a good long time to enjoy it.

That's pretty awesome.

See, I was thinking of making it out of that extruded aluminum.

I think I might have told you that.

But I was, I had priced out the material, the plate.

And then I was, I mean, as soon as you mentioned doing it in wood, I thought, wow, that would be a lot nicer.

You know, it's a lot more warm, perhaps.

Perhaps not the sterility of a lab or a clean room.

You know, it has that sort of hominess to it.

So I'm looking forward to it.

I'm looking forward to it just as much, if not more than you are working on that.

I figured I would draw it isometrically.

And I have a CAD program called Libra CAD.

But it's like AutoCAD.

And it's just line drawings.

And I figured that would at least give us a place to start so we don't waste too much time trying to think about it.

I have measurements.

I have an idea.

The only thing is it needs to be pretty stiff.

Because I'm going to put the 3D printers on top of it.

And they kind of shake around once they get moving fast.

But, yeah, it'll be good fun.

Good fun, indeed.

And then that way I can get another one of these mobile radios and set it up with the Diamond X50.

And then we'll have a good, good circuit.

And it'll be good fun.

Great for the workbench and for the roundtable.

But back to you.

So that's it.

Right there.

That is exactly what you want.

Because I was going to talk to you about a second radio.

And I'll send you another photograph here.

I think you'll enjoy this one.

I just sent you one.

And I will send you another one.

This is Colby.

And this is what he thinks of.

What he's sleeping on there is not only my 9700s,

but you're right in front of me and what I'm using right now.

But he's also sleeping on top of a preamplifier, which right now is gifted to me by Joe.

And this PR-40 Heil microphone, broadcast quality microphone, actually feeds the preamp, which feeds the 9700.

Because the actual audio level coming out of the actual microphone is too low for the ICOM 9700.

So the amplifier boosts that up a little bit.

But the amplifier, the preamp has a, believe it or not, it has a vacuum tube in it.

Joe and I go back to vacuum tube days.

Him more than me.

But nonetheless, has a warm sound of a 12AX7A vacuum tube.

And it is slightly warm.

So Colby just found a spot right on top.

Although both of them, as I showed you, are right alongside my left arm right now, right here at the console.

But I think you'll enjoy those two pictures.

But getting back to the woodworking, yeah, it'll be stiff.

It'll definitely be stiff.

It'll be very robust, but not heavy.

Let's put it that way.

Definitely very robust, but not heavy.

Go ahead.

That is great to hear.

Great to hear indeed.

And I look forward, I'm planning on, I don't know if you've heard of DIN rail.

But I'm a big fan of that mounting device.

And I have, like, 3D printed mounts for, you know, homemade circuits.

And you can just click it on the DIN rail.

Along with, of course, the stereotypical, you know, the usual power supplies and other terminal linking wire connection systems, of course.

I mean, that's mostly what goes on DIN rail.

But I'm hoping to mount a DIN rail to the front of it.

So then I can have sort of a modular mix and match system if I need one supply voltage or need to click a Raspberry Pi in there for some testing or SDR.

That's another thing I hope to do sometime in the near future.

And, yeah, so I'm just, I'm looking forward to this.

And I'll try to, like, capture that, where I want, where I'm thinking of having the DIN rail in the drawing that I send you.

But, of course, we can discuss it.

We can discuss it.

And I'll defer to you in this as the more experienced one, my woodworking.

I'll have to send you a picture of some of it.

It's, well, it's functional.

Not much more.

Back to you.

Not a problem at all.

Well, functional is the number one thing for sure.

And we usually function over neatness.

So, yeah, but basically, yeah, function and neatness together would do it.

No question about it.

Well, very good, Simon.

I will let you get going.

And when you get back from your trip, let's get together.

Let's look at what the SWR is on your antenna in the car.

Make sure it is where it's supposed to be.

And that way you'll know how your, what your performance is like.

Because not only does it protect your radio to have a, obviously, to have a good SWR, a low SWR, but also what it does is, of course, it enhances the reception.

So, when you're on the fringe of a repeater, you know, you've got, your system is tuned pretty much.

So, like I said, mine's about 1.3 at least.

I like to get it even better.

In fact, it's funny, on the bicycle, I had my mag mount.

And I had a 1.15 on the bike, believe it or not.

It was, it was phenomenal.

So, and I could, I could get into the repeater as I was cycling on the Shuster Valley Trail without a problem.

Now I use All Star, so that's even better.

So, I don't even need an antenna on the back.

I just have the, the, the, the, the note in the backpack and that's it.

Anyway, we'll let you go and you have a good night.

Have a good trip.

Enjoy yourself down there.

And, um, uh, it's beautiful.

Absolutely.

I remember Spruce Knob.

I think it's the highest point in West Virginia.

I think it's to the east of that quiet zone.

It's a 4,000 plus foot mountain.

And I remember it very, very well.

That whole area down there, that and Davis, West Virginia.

Blackwater Falls.

That whole area down there is just absolutely beautiful.

So, enjoy yourself.

Relax.

And, um, hopefully you'll get a chance to work some of the repeaters through Baltimore.

Baltimore, Washington has a, hate to use this term because it's so overused, a plethora of repeaters down there for sure.

So, enjoy yourself and have a good time.

And, of course, travel safely.

KD3BPIWA3VE.

We'll hook up when you get back.

7-3.

WA3VEE.

KD3BPI.

Yes.

Thank you, Ron.

Thanks for the good wishes.

And I'm, I'm, I'll keep that in mind.

I'll spend most of my time on repeater book, getting those, uh, Baltimore, Washington repeaters all keyed in there.

Although I believe it's taking me out of the turnpike mostly.

I'll have to verify my, my route and, uh, put it in there.

And we'll link up and we'll discuss.

Hopefully I can, with this radio, I mean, this radio is just so much better than the Balfang.

I'm glad I had that little Balfang for, for its, uh, economy.

But, uh, this is a superior, a superior piece of gear.

But, uh, yeah.

7-3 to you, Ron.

As always, good to talk to you.

And you have a good night.

This is KD3BPI.

Clear.

Absolutely.

I'm enjoying the double out of this.

This is just wonderful.

I have one of my former students actually, uh, uh, following the corruption that I started many years ago.

This is just really great.

And if you ever have the chance to, uh, travel this industry, I think it's either I-64 or I-68.

But it is, it is a wonderfully beautiful road that, uh, it's in Maryland.

Uh, you take it from I-70.

It goes through Cumberland and it hooks over to West Virginia.

It's absolutely beautiful.

And there's not much out there.

One thing, don't expect a lot of responses on the repeaters.

Um, this, Joe's repeater here is very unique.

Uh, we have a lot of activity on this machine.

Most other repeaters around and around and around are very, very scantily occupied.

Um, so, don't worry.

Don't be, don't be disappointed when you don't put your call out there and don't hear anything.

One thing you can think about doing, uh, you may actually get some better response on.

Just, uh, have your, have your rig.

Of course, try the repeaters.

Uh, have your rig on the right.

But have your rig on 146.52, the national calling frequency.

Uh, you may, uh, have your rig on the right.

Uh, you may, uh, have your rig on the right.

You may, uh, have your rig on the right.

You may, uh, have your rig on the right.

You may, uh, have your rig on the right.

You may, uh, have your rig on the right.

You may, uh, have your rig on the right.

You may, uh, have your rig on the right.

Every once in a while, every maybe 20, 30 miles or so, put your call out there.

Uh, KD3PPI, uh, QRZ 5-2 simplex.

I'm on such and such interstate at this mile marker.

Anybody on frequency.

And you might be surprised.

Uh, I worked a few people on the trip to New England several years back just on 5-2 simplex.

You may, you may be able to hail somebody over there much more easily than you're going to

get a response from some of these repeaters.

So again, just, uh, just from experience, don't be surprised if nobody comes back.

On this machine, most of the time, somebody's always listening and will actually respond.

But on most others, that's not the case.

Have a good trip.

We'll talk when you get back.

Uh, when, when you get back.

And, uh, we'll hook up for sure.

KD3PPI, WA3VEE.

WA3VEE, KD3PPI.

That is some good advice.

I'll set my, I'll make sure to put it in my scan.

Uh, in my, uh, preset list.

146.52 simplex.

QRZ.

And just look around.

And, uh, see what, see what's out there.

I have, incidentally, I have heard a little bit on, uh, 52 simplex.

When I, you know, I'll just leave it in.

Uh, I would leave it in the VFO button.

You know, whenever you would switch from presets to your, the frequency, uh, input mode on the

BOWFANG.

It would just remember.

So I had it in there.

And I would hear a couple conversations around here.

So, uh, certainly, certainly, um, we'll look for that on the interstate and see how it's going.

But yeah, thanks for that bit of advice.

And, uh, yeah.

Look forward to getting back and look forward to seeing what we can get up to.

I'm sure it'll be, I'm sure it'll be, uh, nothing but the best of occupations.

Always good to talk to you.

KD3BPI.

W-A-3-V-E-E.

Fork, uh, Simon.

Ha, ha, ha.

Absolutely.

Um, oh yeah.

Another final, final thought.

And you don't need to come back on this.

But on a very humid morning, once you get your X-50 going, on a very humid morning,

generally you'll have a band opening.

Not all the time, but almost, well, the vast majority of the time.

Because you've got some tropospheric ducting going on.

That's a good time to get on to 5-2.

And our host tonight, uh, Bill, is, is one to, who's got some experience in that, uh, in that realm.

Where he will, he's down in, um, in southern Chester County, uh, near Oxford.

And every once in a while, um, he has the advantage of being in the southern part.

So, when there's a band opening, generally speaking, a lot of the southern stations have a tendency to propagate up here.

More than the northern stations propagate down to here.

So, he has the opportunity to work into Virginia and to, uh, western Maryland.

Central and western Maryland out there.

Frederick and so on and so forth.

On two meters.

On 5-2 simplex, which is what it's called.

5-2 simplex.

Um, it's just amazing.

Just amazing.

And, uh, one time I remember back in Wilmington.

On, um, uh, 5-2.

I ended up working, uh, a, a Marine.

I believe, uh, in the military.

In Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

That was just phenomenal on 5-2 during the band opening from Wilmington.

So, uh, just tremendous.

So, it's, it's, it's worth a try.

You might have better luck there than you will working through some of the repeaters.

But, like I said, try the repeaters first.

You might get lucky and somebody come back to you.

We can actually have a conversation.

But if not, it's definitely 5-2 simplex.

Have a good one, WA3VE.

7-3 to you, Ron.

This is KD3BPI.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye.

Thank you.