That's What They Said

This Valentine's Day themed episode of the That's What They Said features hosts Julia and Kieran alongside their guest Tanner as they discuss relationship statuses and dating philosophies. The trio shares humorous anecdotes about their personal college experiences, ranging from detailed pre-date routines to the nuances of meeting potential partners in person.
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Host
Julia Laursen
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Kieran McClean

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ā€œThat’s What They Saidā€ is a space where we pull back the curtain on the college experience — the myths, the stereotypes and the late-night thoughts nobody puts in the brochure.

No topic is off-limits! We’re talking about everything — from expectations vs. reality, to campus culture, academics, friendships and the messy in-betweens. If it’s part of student life, we’re navigating it together.

"That's What They Said" is a podcast produced by WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1/HD-2 at NC State University.

00:05
Julia
Hey, Kieran, what's up?

00:06
Kieran
Julia, did you hear what they said?

00:09
Julia
No, what did they say?

00:10
Kieran
Oh, my gosh. I have to tell you right now. Meet me in the studio in five minutes.

00:14
Julia
Okay, I'm on my way. I'll see you soon. Welcome back to that's what they Said, an educationally conversational podcast where we address all the things, the art, and to college, for sure.

00:28
Kieran
Happy Valentine's Day. You're spreading that love. And you know what else? I'm spreading love to my roommate who's joining us on the podcast.

00:39
Tanner
Me. Oh, my God. Thank you guys for having me. I'm just so excited to be here.

00:46
Kieran
Yes.

00:47
Tanner
What's up, YouTube?

00:52
Kieran
Everybody say hello to Tanner Moore, my roommate.

00:55
Julia
Hello, Tanner Moore, Kieran's roommate.

00:58
Kieran
This is also my friend of, like, two years.

01:01
Tanner
That is true.

01:02
Kieran
This is true. So every time I've talked about how much I don't like my roommates and how messy they are, it's been. Tanner. No, Sometimes it is, but most of the time it's not. Okay, yeah, go ahead and give us a little introduction about yourselves, about yourself. Well, hello, podcast.

01:17
Tanner
My name is Tanner, like it was stated before. I'm a sophomore here at NC State. I'm animal science major who is intending to also double major in political science.

01:28
Kieran
Can I hear political science? Political sc.

01:31
Tanner
Really smart, really educated, and as you can see, really sexy.

01:36
Kieran
Really true.

01:37
Julia
I'm just really overwhelmed by the amount of sexiness.

01:39
Tanner
Overwhelmed by my beauty.

01:41
Kieran
It's just like it's blowing me backwards towards the wall.

01:43
Julia
Yeah, that's why we're wearing these glasses. Because we can shield ourselves.

01:46
Kieran
Yes.

01:46
Tanner
I took my glasses off.

01:47
Julia
Oh.

01:48
Tanner
Oh, sorry, guys.

01:49
Julia
I'm actually committed to the. I'm also committing to this video, but that's just me. But whatever.

01:53
Kieran
That's why you're not.

01:54
Julia
Okay, so I would love to hear your high low, Buffalo. Tanner, tell us your high low, Buffalo.

02:00
Kieran
Please take it away.

02:01
Tanner
My high is being here with you guys. Yeah, of course.

02:06
Kieran
Swap.

02:08
Tanner
My low. My low is probably being here with you guys.

02:15
Kieran
Oh, we're committing to the bit.

02:17
Tanner
Oh, I'm committing to the bit. And my buffalo. Hey, you'll never guess. Being here with you guys.

02:27
Kieran
What a man. What a guy.

02:29
Tanner
What a fellow.

02:30
Kieran
What?

02:30
Tanner
And it's me.

02:31
Kieran
A fellow. So funny. That's the story of my life. Yeah.

02:35
Julia
In my life. It's kind of crazy. Kieran.

02:39
Kieran
Yeah.

02:39
Julia
Hi, Laura, Buffalo.

02:40
Kieran
Hi, Laura Buffalo. My low is that I have two exams this week, one of them being biz law.

02:48
Julia
Me too. We're in the same class.

02:52
Kieran
Not feeling pretty joyous about that. Being that I have to one, study and two, do the exam. So. Feeling stressed? Really nervous. Wish me luck, guys. My. Hi.

03:03
Julia
Hey.

03:04
Kieran
Hey.

03:05
Julia
Hi.

03:06
Tanner
Wow. Hey, people.

03:08
Kieran
Oh, my God. I say that all the time. Anyway, okay, back to Kieran, back to sound, Back to talent. Oh, my God. That's what they say, don't they?

03:20
Tanner
And you the talent, baby. I'm the talent.

03:23
Kieran
Oh, we start fighting.

03:26
Julia
My high.

03:27
Kieran
Maybe this. I think this is my high. I've been looking forward to this for a few days.

03:32
Julia
I love that.

03:33
Kieran
My other high. Well, this can also be my buffalo. No, actually, it's not gonna be Butterflow. Oh, it's not, you guys.

03:38
Tanner
It's not.

03:39
Julia
It's not.

03:39
Tanner
It's freaking not. Don't even think it is.

03:41
Kieran
Cut that. My other highs. I'm having a Galentine's party the day that this goes out. The day before Valentine's. Spreading the love.

03:48
Tanner
I wasn't invited.

03:50
Julia
Girl, you live in the apartment.

03:51
Tanner
I live there.

03:51
Kieran
Tanner was invited. He's not contributing anything, though.

03:54
Tanner
That is not true.

03:55
Kieran
What are you contributing?

03:56
Tanner
I'm contributing whatever you need from me, girl. Whatever you freaking need, I'll provide.

04:03
Kieran
Okay? We make out, we start having bleep, bleep. I can't. So, yeah, that's my other high. I'm very excited for it. My buffalo is that my mom called me on Friday and said, amy, hey, Amy. And said, hey, I'm going to the mall with your dad to go meet his co worker for lunch, and we're stopping by Cheesecake Factory. What do you want? So now I have a cheesecake slice in the fridge and two loaves of Cheesecake Factory bread. Very excited about that. Very, very excited about that. She also made her meatballs, which are one of my favorite things that she makes ever, and she sent me home with a tub of them yesterday. Also, the Seahawks, one go. Seahawks talks.

04:51
Julia
What about Benito? What about Benito? I think he slayed.

04:55
Kieran
Yeah.

04:56
Julia
Did you watch the halftime show?

04:58
Tanner
You guys? I didn't. I went to sleep.

05:00
Kieran
I'm sorry.

05:01
Tanner
I was so tired. I know. I'll watch it today. I love Bad Bunny Baddie. I would. I would kiss him, girl. I would kiss him. I would.

05:10
Kieran
I would. I would.

05:12
Julia
And I would.

05:12
Tanner
You know what? Maybe a little more.

05:15
Julia
Maybe a little something.

05:16
Tanner
If he consented, of course.

05:17
Julia
I know, right? Right?

05:18
Tanner
Love him.

05:19
Julia
Consent is sexy, guys. Okay, Am I safe to do my high low Buffalo?

05:23
Kieran
Yeah, please. Good. Oh, sorry, we gotta leave.

05:27
Julia
My low is that this morning? I Was exiting the gym and what occurred was that my bag broke. My. My like bag that I carry my laptop in my. All my stuff. She broke the strap broke.

05:41
Kieran
Oh, yeah, I know.

05:42
Tanner
I saw that. I said, oh, hi, glitch.

05:46
Julia
So that was a low for me. My high. Loki had a lit tastic time watching the super bowl with you. Yeah. And all your nasty little friends. Yes.

05:56
Kieran
Brady. And Ian was there and I. Redhead Ian.

05:59
Julia
I have Ian written down on my highlight buffalo. Because I just like to say the joy. I've said this before, but the joy I get from making fun of that man is actually astronomical.

06:08
Tanner
Unmatched.

06:09
Julia
It. He like is so easy to rage bait. Like, I walked in, I said, oh, I thought I saw your minivan out there. And he's like a car guy. So he like, he got an attitude. Yeah, it's so funny.

06:19
Kieran
It's his golf.

06:20
Julia
It's. He's. He's pretty nasty. Loki.

06:23
Kieran
He's pretty nice.

06:24
Tanner
So were you guys over at the apartment last night?

06:26
Kieran
No, at my parents house.

06:27
Tanner
Oh, love. Okay. Because I was like, I did not hear y'. All.

06:30
Kieran
No, it was Brady and Julia. I. My parents, my aunt, my great.

06:36
Tanner
Notice how I was invited. Oh, think about it.

06:39
Kieran
You were a living.

06:40
Tanner
What you think about that?

06:41
Julia
Think about it.

06:42
Kieran
Yeah, why don't you think about that? Why do you think I wouldn't have invited you?

06:45
Tanner
Oh, I don't know.

06:47
Julia
Can I share my buffalo? Yeah.

06:48
Tanner
Oh, sorry.

06:50
Julia
I have two. One is that I have been feeling extremely motivated as of late. So this is true. This morning I got up at 6 and I went to the gym and I did cardio and took a shower at the gym. And then I came and got my breakfast, which I haven't eaten yet, so my bag. And then now I'm here. So I'll be doing cardio Monday, Wednesday, Friday, in the morning things I will not. So me either. And that's okay. But it was lucky fun. And then my second is that I have a date today. 11:30, he's meeting me in this building and we're walking to lunch together.

07:27
Tanner
So actually recording the next podcast episode together.

07:29
Julia
Yes. Actually, we've never met. And he's gonna be right. That would look.

07:32
Tanner
He'd be fun, right? No, like, that's a first date.

07:36
Julia
Yeah. Now we'll just see. I don't know. Like we're just saying, you know, but. And you know what that is? Loki. Good segue, guys. Because we're talking about Valentine's Day today. And which is why we have these glasses on like if you didn't notice, like, these are not my normal everyday glasses.

07:52
Kieran
Wearing a heart shirt today.

07:53
Julia
I'm wearing I have a heart in here, guys. Oh, right here. One of these right here. So I. What I would like to know personally is current relationship status.

08:06
Kieran
Go around the room.

08:08
Julia
Let's go around the room.

08:09
Tanner
Share the circle.

08:10
Kieran
Name, age.

08:12
Julia
Alcoholics Anonymous, but Relationships Anonymous.

08:15
Kieran
And then goals for the future.

08:17
Julia
And goals. Yeah. So, like, what are we looking for? Like, are we just in this moment, Are we trying to stay single? Are we, like, doing, like, hookups? Are we, like, dating? Dating? Are we searching for something? You know what? So, Tanner, I want you to go first because I don't know these things about you.

08:28
Tanner
Okay, I'll go ahead and go.

08:29
Julia
Okay.

08:30
Tanner
So currently, I am single, but you know what? I'm single, and I'm ready to mingle.

08:37
Kieran
I knew you were gonna say that.

08:39
Tanner
I'm ready to get out there. I'm ready to hit that scene. I'm ready. I'm looking. Please, please, please, please. No. Yeah. So I'm looking. I am. I am, like, I've said single, but I'm ready to see, like, where the waters take me.

08:57
Kieran
Where the wind blows.

08:58
Tanner
Yeah. Where.

09:00
Kieran
Yeah, yeah.

09:01
Tanner
I'm gonna make a joke, and I can't. I won't.

09:04
Kieran
Yeah, yeah.

09:05
Julia
Wow.

09:06
Kieran
I can go next. I'm Kieran. I'm 19 going on 20 soon. I'm single. Have been for many years now. Goals for the future is hopefully something at this point.

09:22
Tanner
Anything. Hey, I'll pick it all.

09:24
Julia
I'm.

09:24
Kieran
Applications are open for whatever.

09:27
Julia
As we say in literally every freaking episode.

09:29
Kieran
Shoot us a dm. Shoot us a dm. I've yet to receive one, but looking forward to it. I know that they're on backlog.

09:36
Julia
There's just so many request.

09:39
Kieran
It's just. It's just. It's an influx. It's crazy. No, I am ultimately loving something long term. I think I. You know, I've. I've tried the short, slow and steady wins the race. The race did not even begin before I gave up. So, you know, I've tried. I haven't tried the hooking up, and I don't. I think I'm okay with that.

10:03
Tanner
Yeah, me either.

10:05
Kieran
Right?

10:08
Tanner
I've never done that. I would never do that. I'm a child of the Lord.

10:11
Kieran
Yeah. What I've heard in my room begs to differ. Me and Tanner share a wall, so.

10:18
Julia
Oh, I can hear. I can hear everything.

10:21
Tanner
We play too much.

10:24
Kieran
Yeah. So I am single and I am Open to something.

10:30
Julia
To something.

10:30
Tanner
Oh, to something.

10:31
Julia
I'm open to something.

10:32
Kieran
I'm.

10:33
Julia
I could be convinced.

10:34
Kieran
I could be persuaded.

10:36
Julia
Long term. Open to short.

10:37
Kieran
Yeah, long term. Maybe short. I would know nothing about that, so.

10:42
Julia
Oh. Oh, that's really interesting.

10:44
Kieran
Yeah.

10:45
Julia
Okay. Well, in terms of me.

10:49
Kieran
Yeah.

10:50
Julia
As we can tell, I'm. I'm out there. I'm dating. I'm putting in the work. I. You know.

10:59
Kieran
Yeah.

10:59
Julia
I.

11:00
Kieran
Like, it's been one of those days. No.

11:02
Julia
Well, no, honestly, no. I. Like, actually, no, you're dead wrong.

11:06
Kieran
Okay.

11:07
Tanner
Wow.

11:08
Kieran
No, I just, like, are fighting again.

11:11
Julia
I'm sorry, guys.

11:14
Kieran
Wait, is Julia mom, or am I Mom? I feel like I'm Dad.

11:17
Tanner
Yeah. You're my daddy. Oh.

11:20
Kieran
That was my nickname in middle school. Daddy. One of my nicknames. I had two nicknames in middle school.

11:27
Julia
Bring that one back.

11:28
Kieran
One of them was Ketamine, and the other was Daddy Kieran. That was my nickname in middle school and part of high school.

11:34
Tanner
Wait. But now it's Mama Keeks, and now it's Mama Kiki.

11:37
Kieran
Mama Keeks. So I've gone from Daddy Kieran to Mama Kiki or Mama Kee. That's true.

11:44
Julia
So my current mindset, I was talking to my mom on FaceTime, like, two days ago, right. And I had an interesting experience a few days ago with a dating situation. And I then was like, you know, if I ever mention another person in a romantic way, like, take me out back and, like, you know, like. Right. Like, and put it in. Just go on with your life. Like, don't even think about me. But then I woke up the next morning, and I was like, actually, that is not conducive to who I am, because I love going on dates, and I love meeting people and doing fun stuff. So, like, why would I stop doing that?

12:18
Kieran
And I don't.

12:18
Julia
If I. If I have a mindset of, like, I hate men, like, I'm never going on another date, then I feel guilty when I do go on a date. And there's no need for that.

12:25
Kieran
We don't need that.

12:26
Julia
Right. I'm just causing myself, like, extra stress. Yeah. No, I don't want to do that. So my current mindset is I'm still dating because I find it fun, and I like talking to people, and I don't have to, like, put it all one person. Like, I can date multiple people as long as, like. Like, you know, like, obviously, if we're exclusive, then no, but, like, I am loyal.

12:45
Kieran
I promise.

12:45
Julia
I don't know, guys. I probably no, but, like, I like. I like to give all my attention to one person, but I think it's healthier to be like, oh, like, I. I want to date with this person. I want to date with this person. Like, I'm just, like, seeing who I like. Mesh betters. Yeah. And I. I think that's healthy. And I think that's my goal. And also another goal I have. I told my mom I was like, within the next two weeks, I'm going to ask someone out in person. Like, just a random person, because it's me.

13:14
Kieran
Tanner, you propose at the end of the podcast.

13:16
Julia
What are you doing on Valentine's Day? I have not seen. Me neither. But that's actually not true.

13:22
Kieran
I have, like, I have a lot of plans.

13:24
Julia
Okay.

13:24
Tanner
So for me either. Like, I also have plans, too.

13:26
Kieran
No, Like, I've actually have so many friends.

13:28
Julia
I have a lot of guys lined up. Yeah. So that's my current mindset. I like, that's. My next bullet point is I want to know your philosophies and mindsets when it comes to dating.

13:40
Kieran
Yeah.

13:40
Julia
Like, Tanner, take it away.

13:42
Tanner
I'll go. Well, hey, I'm looking for a good Christian woman, and that's what I always say. Yeah. Reflect my values.

13:50
Kieran
Your values.

13:51
Julia
Conservative as well.

13:52
Kieran
Conservative, please.

13:54
Tanner
Would love that. No, my. And what was the question again? I bidded too close to this side.

13:58
Julia
Philosophies and mindsets about dating at the moment.

14:02
Tanner
So my philosophy and my mindset for dating, a growth mindset would be. I'm. I'm just looking to, like, be happy. Like, I want to find someone that I'm obviously. Hey, I think that's everybody's looking for. I just think it's really.

14:17
Kieran
I want to be sad.

14:18
Tanner
Especially I actually want to hate the person. Oh, wow. Hey, people. No, I think my goal is I would love to meet somebody in person. I feel like that's obviously, that's the dream. I just think it's really hard, obviously, as a gay person to date. I think it's. I think that's not talked about.

14:42
Kieran
This is coming out.

14:45
Tanner
I think it's not talked about enough how truly hard it is as a gay person to date.

14:50
Kieran
Yeah.

14:51
Tanner
My philosophy is I would love to meet someone in person, but really just find someone who makes me happy. Find someone who matches my freak.

15:00
Julia
Doesn't matter.

15:00
Kieran
You wanna match my freak?

15:02
Tanner
Go ahead, hit my line.

15:06
Julia
I would like to circle back after you go to the conversation of meeting someone in person, but you go ahead. Mindset and philosophy.

15:13
Kieran
Yes. I mean, mine also Kind of goes with meeting somebody in person I love.

15:16
Julia
Pause. I cannot get over how much you look like a bug with those glasses on. And it's really slick. A cute little bug. She's so cute. She's. I swear.

15:23
Kieran
Do I look like a love bug?

15:24
Julia
Bug.

15:24
Tanner
A bear.

15:25
Kieran
Bug.

15:25
Tanner
A bear. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about Bugab. Bugabear.

15:29
Julia
Queen was applying to an internship the other day. I looked over, Queen was typing in the email bugabear at, and I was.

15:35
Tanner
Like, girl, and that needs to be talked about.

15:36
Kieran
And I literally wrote bugabear. I saw Julia go. And then I hit backspace and I put K, N, M, C, C, L, E, A, N, C, S, U dot.

15:44
Tanner
Because for some context, Kieran's email is bugabear. And she sends that with anything.

15:51
Kieran
And that's attached to, like, my health documents, my insurance, like my school applications. It starts with bugabear. So thank you, dad, for starting that for me in third grade.

16:06
Tanner
A real one.

16:06
Julia
Yeah.

16:07
Kieran
It makes me angry every day. But yeah, so I do look like a bug. My nickname is actually Bug at home and Love bug. So it's quite fitting.

16:15
Julia
So pretty much it's okay.

16:16
Kieran
So pretty much you're a loser for making that joke.

16:18
Julia
Oh, anyway. So what's your mindset on dating?

16:20
Kieran
Yeah. So anyways, I am one who believes and well, not believes, but wants strongly to meet someone in person. Especially, like, I talk about this all the time. Like going through like the public school system, you're like surrounded by people for so long that it's just like maybe like instilled in me because I'm like, I was surrounded by people that I was like, I'm just going to be like a friends to lovers. Like, because like any relationship you really have in high school is a friends to lovers and. Or just like classmate to lover. Like, you just spend so much time with them that you start dating them.

16:45
Julia
Yeah.

16:46
Kieran
Whereas in college is like a whole different ball game because for the first time in my life, like, I have to actually put an effort to have relationships with people.

16:54
Tanner
Sorry, I spied the camera.

16:55
Kieran
Okay.

16:56
Julia
You have to choose to spend time with somebody.

16:57
Kieran
Yeah, you. Yeah. You have to make like a conscious effort to actually be friends with someone. You can't just like sit next to them in class at your assigned table. You can sit in the 400 person lecture room and you have to choose to sit next to them every single Tuesday.

17:10
Tanner
You gotta be bold.

17:11
Kieran
And it's not every day. Like, you know, it's every Tuesday, Thursday So. Or sometimes it's just once a week. Yeah.

17:17
Julia
So our baddie class on Wednesdays, it's.

17:19
Tanner
Once, once a week.

17:20
Julia
We only get to see those baddies once a week.

17:22
Kieran
And it makes me angry. I agree. But, yeah. So I really love the idea of meeting someone in person. I've also, I think, by proxy, accidentally become a friend to lover person. I have a very hard time, like, meeting someone and instantly, like, going into the dating mode. I have to, like, see the vision first. I think that's natural. And I have to, like. Like, I'm just not someone who would, like, go. I mean, like, I want to be that person. Like, I've mentioned before, I've never been on a date. And I think part of that is, like, I just. The idea is kind of weird to me. Not weird, but it's just like, I'm uncomfortable that it's like, we're going to see each other with the intention that we both already like each other. Like, there's no fight or there's no.

18:00
Kieran
Like, there's no. There's nothing to. It's just like, in theory, we both are. Like, we're going on this purposeful hangout because in theory, we're going to be together. Like. Like you.

18:11
Julia
I understand what you're saying, but I kind of like to approach it in the sense that, like, a date is just, like. Especially, like, a first date is just kind of like, you're hanging out to see if you have chemistry enough to maybe, like, go on another date. Like, it doesn't have to be like, I'm going on a date, because we can't. Like, that's just not. Like, that doesn't make any sense. Like, you can't. That you cannot go into a date.

18:39
Kieran
It's not sustainable.

18:40
Julia
Right. Unless you, like, have been friends with the person. But, like, you go on a date with the intention of, like, getting to know somebody to see if you want to go on another date. Like, all that matters is the next step. You don't even have. You have to be like, do I want to see this person again? Yeah. Well, yes, but, like, also me when I say that. But also, if I go on a date and I have really good chemistry with somebody, I'm immediately thinking about, okay, so when we are together, here's what's gonna happen. Like, I'm gonna hang out with you on these days, and you're gonna hang out with me on these days, and then we're gonna. In like, a year, and then we're gonna have kids and Then we're gonna live here. Like, I. I knew that. And.

19:12
Julia
But those are inside thoughts. I keep.

19:14
Kieran
You're an optimist, right?

19:16
Julia
I am a major optimist.

19:17
Kieran
Yeah, yeah. In terms of mindset, I'm looking for someone who.

19:25
Julia
Tall, handsome, bunny, smart.

19:28
Kieran
Yeah. All the things, but.

19:30
Tanner
Yeah.

19:31
Kieran
One of my goals this year is I really want to go on a first date. I've never been one, and so it's on my bucket list.

19:35
Julia
Rather get out there. It's fun.

19:36
Kieran
I'm trying. I'm trying. There's a couple individuals that need you so bad.

19:42
Tanner
It's me again.

19:43
Julia
Yeah, we're both after Tanner, so it's. It's kind of. There's kind of a breach.

19:48
Tanner
I'm just so freaking cool.

19:49
Julia
It's just so freaking cool.

19:50
Kieran
Next episode, we announce Run with Ruppel.

19:52
Julia
Oh, my God.

19:55
Tanner
With the gay man.

19:56
Kieran
With the gay man. That wouldn't be the first time I've. Nevermind.

20:00
Tanner
Oh, wow.

20:01
Julia
With a gay man.

20:01
Kieran
No.

20:02
Tanner
Hey, we've all been there now.

20:04
Julia
We have all been there.

20:04
Kieran
I was in a relationship with someone who was. Whatever.

20:08
Julia
Who?

20:08
Tanner
What?

20:09
Kieran
Wait.

20:09
Julia
Who?

20:09
Tanner
We'll talk.

20:10
Kieran
Well, not in a relationship. Well, one time I had a crush on a gay guy. That did happen. That does happen to.

20:15
Tanner
It was Brady.

20:16
Kieran
Oh, Lord. Draws crazy.

20:20
Tanner
No, no. Just kidding.

20:21
Kieran
No, it was not Brady.

20:22
Julia
Okay.

20:27
Kieran
Brady's gonna listen to this and text me and be like, hey, so I heard of the podcast.

20:32
Julia
We listen to the podcast, I think. Okay, so I want to circle back to the concept of meeting someone in person versus dating online. Because I was talking to my mom about this. Hey, Queen. Because I be like, I use the apps, but I only use Hinge at the moment. Because I, like, I don't want to hook up, so I don't use Tinder. But like. But also, you can find something real on Tinder, because I found. I dated a guy over the summer, and he was, like, so slight. It would have worked out if I stayed in Wilmington, but, you know, whatever. Anyway, so I use Hinge. And.

21:02
Kieran
I.

21:03
Julia
You know the guys that are like, I. They'll be like, I'm looking for my wife. But then you scroll down and they're like, things as, like, short term, open to long, right? Or like, they're like, what. What do I want to do this year? Get off this app? Or, like, what can we do together? We could, like, get off the app. Or, like, what. What do you enjoy talking about?

21:21
Kieran
You. Or like, when it says what? We get, like, first date idea. Like, Coming up with our lie to tell people about how we met, bro.

21:29
Julia
Like, I feel like, take away the shame of online.

21:32
Tanner
I agree. There should be no stigma.

21:34
Julia
I agree. But my. My par. Like, anti blah. But I was telling my mom, there's like an epidemic of people that are unable to walk up and say, hey, you look, like, really cool. You want to, like, go get a coffee? Like, you people don't do that anymore. And, like, if you do that, then people are like. Like, they, like, be weird about it. Like, I don't know, like, you have. It's. Online dating has made it so, like, efficient and, like, standardized of, like, you just wipe through all these people until you find somebody that's, like, cute. And then you, like, send like, 10 people the same message. And then whichever one responds, you like starting conversation.

22:07
Julia
If it goes on for a long enough, then eventually they'll ask you out or you ask them out and then you go out on a date and it's like. But, like, I mean, it works for some people. And like, I'm. I. I think it, like, I believe in it, I hope. But, like, I don't know. Bring back asking people out in real life.

22:26
Tanner
Like, I agree. I saw a TikTok the other day, and it was like back in, like, cavemen times, like, they only saw one baddie their whole life, and, like, they had to shoot their shot right there. And that's my philosophy moving forward is I like that.

22:41
Kieran
Have you ever shot your shot? I.

22:42
Tanner
Well, hey, hey, I have. And if it goes bad, that's okay. The worst that they can do is say no and then call you ugly, and that's you. And, well, and yeah, but.

22:54
Julia
And yeah.

22:56
Kieran
I mean, to be fair, every relationship I've ever been in, I asked them out, right? So, like, all of the boyfriends I've ever had, Daddy Kieran, Daddy Cuban. It's because I asked them to be my boyfriend.

23:07
Julia
I asked him to be my girlfriend.

23:09
Tanner
I thought that was you gonna say, hey, what did I just say?

23:14
Kieran
This is my coming out.

23:16
Julia
I am a lesbian.

23:17
Tanner
No, I thought we're all straight.

23:19
Julia
No, we're in a trouble.

23:20
Tanner
Yes.

23:21
Julia
We're just platonic. But, like, we're like.

23:23
Tanner
But yeah. You guys don't kiss. But we all kiss.

23:27
Kieran
It's like reverse Zendaya and Challengers.

23:31
Tanner
Let's talk about it.

23:32
Kieran
Reverse Challenger.

23:34
Tanner
Whole podcast episode, just challengers, Y'. All. That's crazy. I was gonna ask at some point. I think we should talk about our celebrity crushes.

23:45
Kieran
Oh, hey.

23:48
Julia
Like, hot takes of like, bro, the fish from Nemo. Scar from Nemo.

23:52
Tanner
Ooh. Okay. Okay.

23:53
Kieran
Yeah, let's. Let me. Let's.

23:57
Julia
I just need to take a moment and talk about this.

23:58
Kieran
Let's talk.

23:59
Julia
Go ahead.

24:00
Tanner
Okay. So you want me to go? I have so many.

24:02
Kieran
Okay.

24:03
Julia
Hit it.

24:03
Tanner
My number one celebrity crush of all time will forever and always be Mike Feist.

24:10
Julia
I don't know.

24:11
Tanner
Challengers, fame. Of fear. Of panic. He's in panic. Not fear. He's in panic. He plays a cowboy in that.

24:17
Julia
Okay.

24:17
Tanner
My face. He's in challengers. He's sexy. He was in this stage production of Brokeback Mountain. Like, he is sexy. He is sexy. Mike Feist, hit my line. I know you are straight, but let me see here.

24:31
Kieran
This man.

24:31
Julia
Oh, the blonde.

24:32
Kieran
Okay, that's him.

24:33
Tanner
And he was also in Dear Evan Hansen on Broadway. Yes, the blonde one.

24:36
Julia
Okay. What?

24:37
Tanner
Don't show that one. Show him in challengers. He's so sexy.

24:41
Julia
He. Loki gives Ilya from heated rivalry.

24:43
Tanner
Oh. Which need that.

24:47
Julia
Both of them.

24:48
Kieran
Too bad at the same time.

24:51
Tanner
I would say another celebrity crush is. Hey. Jacob Elordi.

24:55
Julia
Yeah, classic. Like, you can't even deny that there's that one.

24:58
Tanner
I don't know if you guys have seen the photo shoot of him where he, like, has, like, the soft mullet. He's, like, in the corset on the mute. On the museum statue. Like, I need him. Oh, I need him.

25:09
Kieran
In that same vein, Theo James.

25:12
Tanner
Oh, yeah. Yes. No.

25:13
Kieran
Yeah.

25:14
Tanner
That's the photo, right?

25:20
Julia
Good Lord.

25:21
Tanner
I know. Wow. Wow.

25:24
Julia
Okay, since this is on my mind. Benito. Bad bunny. He is. She was. So yesterday were watching the super bowl, right? Kieran's mom says, have you seen those videos of him, like, when he's, like, Loki not wearing underwear? And I turned around, I said, I have watched every single one of those edits on Tick Tock Girl. I have seen it.

25:44
Tanner
Bad Bunny. Cloud Kelp.

25:46
Kieran
Yeah.

25:46
Julia
And that's what I always say.

25:47
Tanner
Bad Bunny. Calvin Klein ad. Let's talk about it.

25:52
Julia
He is so fine, and he's so politically active.

25:57
Tanner
He's just, like, sexy and his voice is sexy and he's sexy. When he was on snl because he's also funny. Hey, you can be as sexy, but if you're not funny, I don't want you. You gotta be. Oh, I agree.

26:08
Kieran
I like tattoos.

26:09
Julia
He's so. He's so, like, politically active and, like, he's. The way that he, like, speaks about Puerto Rico is just so, like, I need him.

26:18
Tanner
So I love him.

26:20
Julia
One of my I don't know, like, how you're gonna feel about this, but like, one of my celebrity crushes, my top celebrity crush is going to be Jeff Goldblum.

26:28
Tanner
I get it. And I know daddy.

26:30
Julia
Okay, but I mean, like now, like, not even when he was young. I mean, yes, when he was young, but like. But like this low key. I disagree.

26:37
Tanner
No, Jeff Goldblum is. Because I also think, like, I don't think that he's like the sexiest in the face, obviously, but I think that he has a sexy personality. He's like, really charming.

26:47
Julia
Yeah, he is so charming.

26:49
Tanner
I've met him. No, I haven't.

26:50
Julia
Oh, I was gonna be like, that's.

26:52
Tanner
Actually my best friend. Go way back.

26:57
Julia
That's how I. Right.

27:00
Kieran
Jim from the Office. Whatever his real name is.

27:02
Julia
I never watched the Office.

27:03
Tanner
What is his name? I know it.

27:06
Julia
Okay, what is it?

27:06
Kieran
Jim Halpert.

27:07
Tanner
Well, okay, no, it's John Kazinski.

27:16
Julia
Trying to think of who other hot take.

27:19
Kieran
But also, I lowkey need him when he was in the office. I do too.

27:23
Tanner
There's that one episode where he is playing basketball and I'm like.

27:26
Kieran
Yeah.

27:26
Julia
Wait, guys, the. The saber tooth tiger from Ice Age way.

27:31
Kieran
I get it.

27:31
Julia
Yeah.

27:33
Kieran
Yeah. Okay, so Jennifer Lawrence need. Yes. Oh, yeah. Dakota Johnson. Need Dakota Johnson.

27:45
Tanner
Yeah.

27:47
Kieran
I need Blake Lively, but not as much as I need Jennifer Lawrence. Like. Like, he's on the back.

27:52
Tanner
Lawrence.

27:53
Kieran
I need Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah.

27:55
Tanner
The fish from Nemo.

27:56
Julia
Scar from Nemo. Hold on. It's a video.

28:00
Kieran
The entire cast of the Outsider.

28:04
Tanner
The. The movie or the musical production?

28:07
Kieran
No, the movie, baby. No. Because I need. I need pony boy. Or not pony. Wait, no.

28:16
Tanner
Boy boy.

28:18
Julia
You know, have you ever seen Dead Poet Society? Oh, honey.

28:22
Tanner
Wait, is that the sexy dude and he's. He's also in that medical show? Yes, yes. He's bad. He's bad.

28:27
Julia
He's bad. Wait, I need the older brother gay undertone. It's like major gay under. No in the.

28:32
Tanner
Yes, that's what I've heard.

28:33
Kieran
I need him.

28:34
Julia
Look, okay, this is. Let's let me zoom in on this really super d. Quick. Baddest freak. Hold on. Look at this cast. Hold on. I'm trying to move closer while it's still talking. Right this. Wow. Just actually inspiring the amount of battiness in that photo.

28:51
Tanner
Wait, and can I mention one more?

28:53
Kieran
Yeah, you got.

28:54
Tanner
Hey, viewers out there. You guys see the show? The pit?

28:57
Julia
Nope.

28:58
Tanner
This sexy dude right here. This a tick tock edit. Come on, get into it. He's Sexy. He bad as hell. Come on, y'.

29:04
Julia
All.

29:05
Tanner
I know. I went to my tick tock and just pulled up my, like, sexy edits.

29:11
Julia
Hold on. Let me see. Who else?

29:12
Tanner
Come on. Everybody in Heater Rivalry.

29:15
Kieran
Yeah.

29:17
Tanner
I could die happy with any of them. Any of them. Especially Scott. Scott Hunter.

29:23
Julia
I have a good one. Have you guys seen Catching Fire, the Second Hunger?

29:28
Tanner
Yeah.

29:29
Julia
Do you know the scene where Finnick.

29:31
Tanner
Is and he's drinking from the water bottle?

29:35
Julia
That is I. That scene. Look at me gripping this thing. I have watched edits of that scene like, I. No, you don't understand. You don't understand. My face is heating up. That is just a little unsafe. Absolutely bust. Hold on. Catching.

29:54
Tanner
Absolutely best. Also another one of mine. Actually, two here. I just saw two. If you guys know Jonathan Bailey, my mom needs Jonathan Bailey. Anything he's been in. Anything. Give me that. Give me that right now.

30:09
Kieran
Yeah.

30:10
Tanner
Fellow travelers. That's just a beautiful TV show. Beautiful.

30:16
Julia
I just found an edit of that scene, y', all, and I just.

30:19
Kieran
I really.

30:19
Julia
I can't take it.

30:20
Tanner
I just can't take it. Josh Hutchinson. I could go all day. I could go all day.

30:25
Julia
He's so funny. Money, too.

30:27
Tanner
I know. Oh, just guys. But Mike Feist. You guys like Mike Feist? Like, I'm like Mike Feist in the show Panic. He plays a cowboy. Like, Lord, I need him.

30:40
Julia
Oh, I love a cowboy. Hold on.

30:41
Tanner
Oh, I know. No, I. Get into it, get into it. Oh.

30:48
Julia
Oh, you know, people are gonna love.

30:51
Tanner
Us just talking about.

30:52
Kieran
Wait, wait. What is.

30:53
Julia
Dylan o'.

30:54
Kieran
Brien.

30:56
Julia
Oh, my God. Maze Runner. Whole cast now.

30:59
Kieran
Oh, my God. Now this is mine. Runner. I literally was, like, rocking back. I watched the Maze Runner for the first time, like, two weeks ago or three weeks ago.

31:09
Julia
It was longer than that, but yes.

31:10
Kieran
A month ago. I don't know. It was over winter break, whatever that is. End of December, beginning of January. I need the entire Maze Runner cast. So.

31:23
Tanner
Guys, wait. I've never seen the Maze Runner.

31:25
Julia
Oh, my God.

31:26
Kieran
You would actually like.

31:28
Tanner
Oh, no. Yeah, he's in.

31:30
Julia
Yes. Who?

31:31
Tanner
The one that.

31:31
Julia
Did he play?

31:32
Kieran
Percy Jackson.

31:33
Julia
Shirty.

31:34
Kieran
Which one's this one?

31:35
Julia
The.

31:36
Kieran
This guy.

31:38
Tanner
I see him before.

31:41
Julia
Mino.

31:41
Kieran
Mino. I need Mino.

31:44
Julia
What's his actual name?

31:46
Kieran
Just vote. I mean, just so bad. I also need.

31:51
Tanner
Wait, all of them.

31:54
Kieran
I need them so bad. I need them so bad.

31:57
Julia
What is his name?

32:02
Tanner
Sorry?

32:04
Julia
Oh, Kihong Lee. That's his name.

32:06
Tanner
Oh, no, he died.

32:08
Julia
The guy who plays Galley.

32:09
Kieran
Hold on and see, that's A little bit of a controversial take because he looks like Sid from Toy Story.

32:16
Julia
Will Poulter.

32:17
Tanner
No, he says.

32:18
Kieran
Wait, hold on.

32:19
Tanner
He's sexy.

32:21
Kieran
Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, no, he's sexy. He's sexy.

32:25
Tanner
Yeah. No, I think he's very expressive.

32:27
Kieran
Yeah.

32:27
Tanner
He's also a very good actor, which I also find to be sexy.

32:31
Julia
He's in Narnia.

32:31
Kieran
Okay, you know what? I, I.

32:33
Tanner
He plays Prince Caspian.

32:34
Kieran
You're right.

32:34
Julia
You're right.

32:35
Tanner
He's a Narnia.

32:36
Julia
Yeah, he plays Eustace.

32:39
Kieran
Wow.

32:40
Julia
Narnia.

32:43
Tanner
Like the lion. The Witch in the Wardrobe.

32:44
Julia
Well, in the Dawn Treader.

32:46
Tanner
Oh, I never seen that one.

32:47
Julia
What?

32:48
Tanner
I only seen the one. I've only seen that one. The one Prince Caspian in.

32:52
Kieran
Yeah.

32:52
Julia
Eustace.

32:55
Kieran
Oh, you know who I've been saying this whole time?

32:57
Tanner
Who?

32:58
Kieran
Hiccup from how to Train youn Dragon.

33:00
Julia
The animated one. Yeah, Yeah, I agree, y'.

33:03
Tanner
All. The. The actor. Not that. The one who at Universal. Oh, plays a cup there. Give me. That's not even a celebrity.

33:11
Julia
Give me.

33:12
Tanner
That's just me.

33:12
Julia
Me.

33:13
Kieran
That's just a man.

33:14
Tanner
That's just a random guy. Sorry, dude.

33:17
Julia
The amount of times my camera has glitched.

33:19
Tanner
No.

33:20
Kieran
Like, a little glitchy girl.

33:21
Julia
I'm just too baddie. Like, it's like, can't take it.

33:24
Tanner
Are you pulling up? It's Hayden Christensen. That one's for my friend Maddie. Hey, Maddie, this one's for you, girl.

33:33
Julia
But, like, not even just him, like, him in general, but him in Star Wars. Oh, my Lord.

33:39
Tanner
He's in that one movie where he played, like, emo.

33:44
Julia
Also Loki.

33:49
Tanner
Loki.

33:50
Kieran
Hold on.

33:50
Julia
Loki. Literally. Y' all seen. Y' all seen the prequels of Star Wars? Like, the original. Okay. Hey, why aren't we going? I need to see this, man.

33:59
Tanner
I'm a little older.

34:00
Julia
Qui.

34:00
Tanner
Gon Australia.

34:01
Kieran
Oh, yeah.

34:04
Tanner
But no, I get it. I mean, you.

34:06
Julia
If you would watch. Have you seen the prequels?

34:08
Kieran
No.

34:08
Julia
Oh, he is so, like, soft spoken and, like, you know. Yeah.

34:12
Tanner
And then there's.

34:13
Julia
Hold on. Obi Wan Kenobi. Hold on. Okay. And Loki. Loki need. This king stance is, like, going a little crazy.

34:22
Tanner
What's his name?

34:23
Julia
Obi Wan.

34:23
Tanner
No. Well, yeah, with the actor.

34:26
Julia
No, you don't get it. And you know the scene I could not stop yawning in the third one, where Anakin is, like, he's, like, all, like, burnt up, you know, in the lava, and he's like, you have.

34:37
Tanner
I'm supposed to be the chosen one.

34:39
Kieran
Yeah.

34:39
Julia
Like, all this, he's like, you know, I need both of them.

34:44
Kieran
Anyway, I hate to cut this off. Oh, I'm sorry.

34:46
Tanner
No, please do.

34:47
Julia
You don't like me.

34:48
Kieran
Oh, no. I'm just dying to know about Tanner's pre date, pre hookup routine. Recently discovered that there is a routine. Well, actually, I knew this, but, like, there's a full breakdown and I need to.

34:58
Julia
I need to.

34:59
Kieran
And I feel like you need to educate the people.

35:01
Tanner
Yes, Educating the people on the routine. So before a day or before any kind of thing that where I will be meeting a potential partner.

35:10
Kieran
Yeah.

35:10
Tanner
I. So I am crazy. I am. I have a lot of anxiety. Like, I gotta, like, do it my way. So once, like, the plans have been confirmed, I take about five minutes to have a freak out. I have basically a panic attack of like, oh, my gosh, I'm ugly. Like, what is gonna. I'm gonna die. And then once I get, you know, I get into a good headspace, I'm like, I'm a baddie. Like, who wouldn't want all this? Kieran. Kenneth. I start to blast my music. I pull out my Bose speaker and I blast music and I get in that headspace. I'm playing like Von Dutch by Charlie xcx. I'm playing.

35:50
Kieran
It's all upbeat music.

35:51
Tanner
It's all like, I gotta get baby Tate McRae never play. I don't like her. Sorry. Sorry to my. Sorry to the Tate McRae fans out there. She not my cup of tea.

36:05
Kieran
She's not really mine either.

36:06
Tanner
So I'm getting ready. So once the music is blasting, I strip down to just my underwear so I can see what I'm working with. You know what I mean? Like, I gotta have a clear base.

36:16
Julia
Yeah.

36:16
Kieran
A clean slate.

36:17
Tanner
Yes. And then I put on. I have special underwear.

36:20
Kieran
Of course.

36:21
Tanner
It's my sexy underwear. I put on my sexy underwear.

36:24
Julia
I do the same thing. I see the same thing.

36:25
Tanner
Cause you gotta have sexy. Because you don't want to be in, like, your granny panties.

36:29
Julia
I've been there and an unexpected event occurred and I was. I was wearing cute, like, under things.

36:36
Tanner
I always wear my sexy underwear. Even if I don't think, like, anything is gonna happen. Like. Yeah, just in case. Like, I.

36:41
Kieran
In case of emergency break.

36:43
Tanner
Yes, it's my emergency sexy underwear.

36:45
Kieran
Right.

36:46
Tanner
So I'm wearing that and then I scrounge through my closet and I usually end up on the same outfit every time.

36:52
Julia
Me too.

36:52
Kieran
Those white camouflage sweatpants.

36:55
Tanner
Yeah. Well, that's if it's a night in. If it's a night out. I usually go for a pair of long jeans. Usually are not short jeans. Dark wash. No, they have to be long. They're like baggy. Like, I love a good baggy jean.

37:06
Kieran
They look so good in baggy jeans.

37:07
Tanner
Yeah, it's my long legs. And then I usually decide on a lucky brand top. Lucky brand makes the best tops for Twinks for.

37:21
Julia
Right.

37:21
Tanner
All their tops fit me so beautifully. It like snatches the waist. But it's like still like. Because like my. My struggle is like, I don't think they make a lot of male tops, like shirts to wear that are fun and original. Usually it's like, it's a shirt. I like something a little more. So I usually put on that. And then. Well, I put that on later. I set it on my bed. I'm not wearing it because I gotta get ready. I gotta beat the face. Beat the mug, if you will. I brush my teeth about four times. So, like, this is true, like 30 minute increments. I'm brushing my teeth because I'm so. Could you imagine you're making out with somebody in a gossame breath?

38:01
Julia
Okay, hold on. Pause.

38:02
Kieran
I have been there. Pause.

38:03
Julia
The other day, like, yes, I was. I kissed someone and said, oh, we just went out to dinner. And they were like, your breast sounds like cheese. And I said, I'm actually gonna end it. But he was saying it in like a.

38:15
Tanner
Like, like, I want some. Give me that cheese.

38:18
Julia
Like Loki. I was like, I don't.

38:22
Kieran
Like just trying to string that cheese.

38:23
Julia
I don't like that. Oh.

38:24
Tanner
Oh.

38:25
Julia
But anyway, I'm not seeing him any worse.

38:28
Kieran
No. You know what's worse, though? Hold on. I thought I'll let you go back. Is kissing someone with braces and it tastes like metal.

38:34
Julia
I have never kissed anyone with braces.

38:36
Tanner
Me either.

38:36
Kieran
Maybe that's because all my dates were in high school. In middle school, all my relationships were in like when I was like 13 and 15.

38:44
Julia
Real.

38:44
Kieran
But making out with someone with braces. And then I also had braces at the same.

38:48
Julia
Oh, have you ever got. I'm stuck.

38:50
Kieran
Yep, that also happened. No, it was cute too, when we both were wearing glasses as well. So it was like, clink, clink.

38:57
Julia
I wear actual glasses. Like right now I can't really see much because I'm wearing these glasses. But I like, I think it's cute. Like, I think it's adorable when you have to like, take off your glasses. Like, you know. Anyway, continue.

39:09
Tanner
So once I have my. My outfit laid out.

39:12
Kieran
Teeth brushed.

39:13
Tanner
Teeth brushed. I go into the. The scaping.

39:18
Kieran
The scaping.

39:20
Julia
So you do a very fresh.

39:21
Tanner
Yeah, I like. So what?

39:22
Kieran
I clean out the closet?

39:24
Tanner
Yes, yes. Because that's also. That's scary. Like, you down. You know, downstairs, you want to be clean. So.

39:29
Julia
Yeah, it's true.

39:30
Tanner
I do some cleanup downstairs and I take a second shower. Because usually what I do is like, I. If, like the plans are made the night before, then the morning of, I'll take a shower that morning, and then like. Like an hour and a half before I leave, I take a second one.

39:45
Julia
Yeah.

39:46
Tanner
Because I'm like, I. I use specific kind of body wash when I'm going on a date.

39:51
Julia
Yes.

39:51
Tanner
Because it's a different scent. It's my method body wash. It's like the vanilla cat. It's like vanilla.

39:58
Kieran
The gray bottle.

39:59
Tanner
Yes, it's the gray bottle.

39:59
Kieran
That's the one.

40:03
Tanner
Because I like it.

40:04
Kieran
That's just my everyday soap. But yeah.

40:06
Tanner
Vanilla and smooth. And so than once. And I don't wash my hair.

40:10
Kieran
Okay.

40:10
Tanner
Because when I have my hair freshly washed and comb it out, it always looks bad. So I like my hair, like, to look a little messy.

40:18
Kieran
Yeah.

40:19
Tanner
Because you don't want to look like. You know what I mean? Like, you don't want to look like you're like, I tried really hard, but you want. You don't want to give. Like, I'm a bum. Like, you got to find that middle ground.

40:27
Kieran
Efforts effortlessly. Baddie.

40:29
Julia
Yes.

40:29
Tanner
So then once I have all that, I then go put on the outfit. The day outfit. We're ready. I brush my teeth for the final time. I then put on my. My date.

40:45
Kieran
Right.

40:46
Tanner
Not perfume. What's it called for a man? Cologne.

40:48
Julia
What's it called for a man.

40:49
Tanner
For a man. It's my margarita and lime dossier cologne. Because it's like it's a night out.

40:55
Kieran
Yeah.

40:55
Julia
Like she's feeling.

41:01
Tanner
And then I spend. And then I usually get ready, like, ridiculously early. Like, like an hour and a half before anything's happening. Because that last hour and a half.

41:11
Kieran
It'S been pacing around the apartment.

41:12
Tanner
Pacing around the apartment. Any of my roommates can attest if they know I'm gonna go on a date.

41:17
Kieran
It's.

41:17
Tanner
I'm walking. I'm like, basically running all throughout the apartment because I'm so scared.

41:23
Kieran
And sitting in my room, I usually. I hear it's Kieran. Yeah. Can I come in?

41:29
Tanner
Yeah, exactly. Shaky, shaky breath. Like I'm scared No, it's like I'm getting. It's like someone is making me do it against my will. I'm like, that scared.

41:38
Kieran
Emma has texted me before saying Tanner's pacing around the apartment.

41:41
Tanner
It's bad. Like, I'm like, I'm someone who's so. Because, like, there's like, no, like, adrenaline rush. Like, when you're about to meet up with somebody for the first time.

41:49
Kieran
Your heart also goes fast on its own. Don't you have a really fast heart?

41:52
Tanner
Oh, but I also have heart condition.

41:54
Kieran
Yeah.

41:54
Tanner
So there's probably that, too. And then. Yeah, and then I. I get in my car and I drive to the date. And then usually it goes swimmingly because it's freaking me, you guys. Like, that's what I say. I'm gonna be honest. I've never been on a first date, and it been bad. Every first date I've been on. Like, I've been like, okay, yeah.

42:13
Julia
Like, yeah, but, like, sometimes that's what I'm saying.

42:16
Tanner
I have this experience.

42:17
Julia
I, like, am so fun, and I am, like, always myself that, like, I, like, have a great time with whoever I'm with.

42:24
Tanner
Because it's basically just a date with myself.

42:26
Julia
Right. I'm like, wait.

42:27
Tanner
I mean, I'm just going out for some free dinner.

42:29
Kieran
Treat myself.

42:30
Julia
Treat myself. No, but, like, the only, like, really bad day I went on was the one that after I came to y' all's apartment right after the guy that cried.

42:39
Tanner
Oh, my gosh.

42:40
Julia
That was. Yeah, that was, like, the only, like, bad date I've been on there. I've been on dates where, like, I didn't, like, click with the person, you know? Yeah. Like, and then I just didn't see them again, and it's fine. But, like, usually I have a good time because I am a good time.

42:52
Tanner
Because I'm a flicking great time.

42:57
Kieran
Julia, do you have a pre date routine?

42:59
Julia
Yeah. So I kind of used to do the same thing, like, get ready really early and pace around and be scared because I'm also very anxious.

43:07
Kieran
Just some anxious girlies.

43:09
Julia
Just some girlies. But I these days don't do that. I, like, I don't give myself enough time to, like, have time to sit there and be like. I just kind of like. Like, if I'm going on a dinner date these days, it's like, I go to the gym, I get home, I take a shower, and I get dressed, and by the time that happens, they're picking me up, you know? Or like, today I'm going on a Lunch date, and I'm just gonna be at work, and he's gonna come and, like, meet me here, and we're gonna walk there together. Like, it's just kind of like. I just don't put as much pressure on it these days. But, like, I'm still nervous. But, like, I've been on so many dates. Like, so many first dates.

43:45
Tanner
I've been on so many freaking days, you guys. Everybody wants to date.

43:49
Julia
Everybody wants me. No, but, like, I. I, at this point, have gone on so many first dates that I'm just like. I'm not. I'm just like. Okay.

43:56
Kieran
Not phased by it.

43:57
Julia
Like, I'm not like you after the crying in the middle of a restaurant thing. I can handle anything. I can genuinely handle anything. Like, lay it on me. I can take it. Well, that was kind of crazy.

44:06
Kieran
Lay it on you.

44:08
Tanner
Whoa.

44:09
Julia
But anyway, so that's how I feel.

44:11
Kieran
And that's not in the sense that.

44:14
Julia
Yeah. So what's your. Yeah. What's your routine?

44:18
Kieran
So it's very extensive, I would imagine, my predate. If I had to guess what it.

44:27
Julia
Would be.

44:29
Kieran
I'm sure it would be something. I'm sure there'd be a lot of panicking. I'd probably call everyone.

44:33
Julia
Well, this is true. Because when we thought you were gonna invite that guy over.

44:36
Kieran
Yeah.

44:36
Julia
Everybody on the phone, it was. Because that's why. Because I have your. Your deep breathing and, like, preparation, which is why I wanted to.

44:43
Kieran
Yeah. I'm at the phase where I have such. Not, like, little, but little experience with having people in my life romantically, that I'm in the stage still where everybody has to hear about it. Because I'm like, I need your advice. And I need your advice. And what do you do? Okay. And you do this. Okay, great. And then it's normal if this happens. Right. And then it's cool if I say this right? Like, Because I just. I got nothing. Like.

45:03
Julia
Like. But Loki.

45:05
Kieran
I like to think that I'm a pretty good flirter. Like, I'm a pretty good. Yeah. Smooth talker. I, like, once I'm there, I'm fine. I just. I think I look ugly and everything going into something. I think that I smell weird.

45:17
Julia
I think that I.

45:18
Kieran
They're gonna meet me and be like, wow, she's gross.

45:20
Julia
Like, she looks nothing. Like how. Like, I thought.

45:23
Kieran
Right? And then. But as soon as I'm, like, when I'm talking to someone, like, there's no stopping me, baby. Like, usually I. Like, there's a lot of people. I flirt with that. I don't even think they realize I'm flirting with them. It's, you know, it's how it's happening.

45:34
Julia
I love flirting with people.

45:36
Kieran
Yeah.

45:36
Tanner
Oh, Hate it.

45:37
Julia
Really?

45:38
Tanner
I just feel like I'm bad at it.

45:40
Kieran
I think I'm pretty good at it.

45:41
Tanner
I'm like, let me, like. Okay, I'm gonna flirt with you, Julie. Like, how I do.

45:43
Kieran
Okay.

45:44
Julia
Hi. Oh, hey.

45:47
Kieran
So you're really cool.

45:49
Julia
Thank you. So are you.

45:50
Kieran
Can I, like. Can I, like, get your Instagram?

45:53
Julia
Sure. Julia P. Larson.

45:55
Tanner
And then when I get it, I run away and I just run and.

45:58
Julia
Do you message them on Instagram?

46:00
Kieran
No. Oh, it's like that.

46:01
Tanner
Spongebob. Yep. Just. Just a fan.

46:04
Julia
Just a fan. Okay.

46:06
Kieran
See, I'm someone. I have. Well, I do think, because I've never asked someone for their Instagram romantically. Oh, well, I mean, like, I have, but I haven't. Actually, I have because there is this guy that I was talking to at this event where I knew you were gonna say that.

46:22
Tanner
Oh, I love his story. I love this story.

46:25
Kieran
Let me tell y' all something. Something. Okay, well, one thing about me, actually, I love talking. I don't love talking about this, but this is a random thing that I. No, this is something different. This is something random that I have and that I am not afraid to write my phone number on receipts.

46:38
Julia
Oh, my Lord.

46:40
Kieran
I have written my phone, Atlanta and at least 10 different receipts in my life, easily. I've written my friend's phone numbers on receipts. I've written my phone number on their receipts like crazy. Now, how many times have I been texted because of it? Zero know, zero times.

46:56
Julia
But it's good.

46:56
Kieran
But I have no shame in doing it. No, that's what I'm saying.

47:00
Tanner
Nothing is embarrassing. It only gets embarrassing if you put that mindset.

47:05
Julia
Yeah.

47:05
Tanner
Like, on it.

47:06
Julia
If you make it embarrassing, then it is. But, like, yeah, and, like, asking someone out and getting rejected or doing something like that and not getting text back is not embarrassing because it's just like.

47:14
Kieran
Oh, yeah, okay, whatever. But, yeah. Yeah, I don't really care to, like, make a fool of myself. Not that it's like, making a fool of myself. I don't really care that much.

47:22
Julia
Well, that's. But, like, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Take away the stigma of, like, making a fool of yourself by, like, flirting with somebody in public. Like, sometimes I'd be walking up and being like, hey, like, I think your outfit is really cool. Or, like, you look really cute, you know? Like, because. Because even if somebody walked up to me to say that and, like, not even in a romantic way, I'd be like, right. It's always.

47:40
Tanner
It, like, always makes your day. Exactly.

47:44
Kieran
Right.

47:44
Julia
Yeah. No, I agree in the sense of that.

47:46
Kieran
In a sense that.

47:48
Julia
Can I.

47:48
Kieran
No, go ahead.

47:49
Julia
I was just gonna ask, what are our Valentine's plans for this year?

47:52
Kieran
Oh, yes. Tanner, do you wanna go first?

47:56
Tanner
Yeah, I'll go first. Well, on the 13th, I am having a beautiful Galentine's Day that I am hosting. That I set up. This is a big fat lie. Ms. Beautiful Kieran is hosting a Galentine's Day in our apartment.

48:12
Kieran
I am.

48:13
Tanner
And I will be attending that on the 13th. And then on the 14th, my lovely friend, Ms. Josie Bolin, is graciously allowing us, me and a couple friends to spend the night at her house in. In her family home. So that's what I'll be doing. We're gonna bake some cookies. Gonna have so much fun.

48:32
Julia
Some cookies.

48:32
Kieran
That's cute. I have to say about this Galentine's thing, it's turning into more of everybody and their partner is coming, and then it's.

48:38
Julia
Which I don't love.

48:40
Kieran
I. I was really looking at it today because. So, my friend. I think that there's. 1, 2, 3, 4.

48:51
Tanner
No couples allowed.

48:52
Kieran
That's what I'm saying. Maybe five sets of couples coming or sets of people, like, coming with someone.

48:57
Tanner
If you date somebody, get out.

49:00
Kieran
And at first, it was like, I invited them both because I'm friends with both the people in the relationship, like, separately. And so I was like, no, like, obviously. Or it's like someone that likes. Like, they've been dating them for, like. Like, I know them, I'm friends with. Like, it's fine. And it's slowly turning into more couples or people coming with someone than singles.

49:18
Julia
They are not.

49:20
Kieran
And so I was like, oh, I need to get a date to my own Valentine's party that I'm hosting. Like, because it's a Galentine, it's like.

49:27
Tanner
It'S not a Valentine's party. A Valentine's party is couples. A Galentine's historically, is single or just.

49:35
Kieran
The gals, at least. Like, again, if I'm feeling friends with both the people in the relationship, that's totally fine.

49:40
Julia
Because we're the girls.

49:41
Kieran
Like, it's like, it's fine. And they're also.

49:43
Tanner
We're all having to be gay couples, right?

49:45
Kieran
Girls and gays. The Galentine. The Galentines, if you will. But now it's turning into like. Someone else just texted me today, and they're like, hey, can I bring someone? I was like, no.

49:57
Julia
Are they a romantic partner?

49:58
Kieran
No. And it's this. It's this guy. There's one of my guy friends texting me if they could bring the girl.

50:03
Julia
And I was like, who?

50:04
Tanner
Who? You got a spill now, Ian?

50:06
Kieran
No.

50:07
Tanner
Oh, no way. Is it Ian, no offense to you, but it's not you.

50:11
Julia
Based on the conversations that we had last night, ain't no way.

50:16
Kieran
I can tell you guys when we're not recording on the podcast.

50:19
Tanner
Top secret, you guys.

50:21
Julia
Well, I'm. I'm bringing someone, but not romantically. I'm bringing one of my. One of my best friends is a straight man who is socially awkward.

50:31
Kieran
He's fun, though. Oh, he's country.

50:34
Julia
No, he's country, but he's. He's a liberal.

50:36
Tanner
He's a liberal cowboy.

50:39
Julia
Yeah. He's so excited. I was like, okay, honey, you gotta wear red or pink or white. And he was like, okay, I have a lot of red in my closet. Like, I already know what I'm gonna wear. And then he was like, do you want me to pick you up? And I was like, yes.

50:48
Tanner
And I was.

50:48
Julia
And it's gonna be.

50:49
Kieran
It's gonna be great.

50:50
Julia
It's gonna be great.

50:50
Kieran
He's gone.

50:51
Julia
He's. He's silly.

50:52
Kieran
He asked. He asked for us to connect on LinkedIn. Like, that's how. Like, brother. He didn't ask for, like, a social. He asked for my LinkedIn. He's like, Are we connections on LinkedIn?

51:01
Julia
He doesn't do social media. LinkedIn is. Yes.

51:04
Kieran
It just. It just makes me laugh.

51:05
Julia
He's like, I love that, man. It's like. And like, I'm good friends with the girl that he's like, low key. Like, they're about to start dating. So, like, it's like, we're all, like, good friends.

51:16
Kieran
Oh, what's her face? Yeah, it's.

51:19
Julia
I can't. I. Like, we'll talk. Yeah.

51:21
Kieran
Anyways, in terms of my Valentine's plans, in terms of so hosting the Galentine's party, I'm puppet. Fun fact about me, Valentine's is in my top three for favorite holidays, followed by St. Patrick's Day, which is also coming up. This is me dropping to my roommate right now that I want to host Something for St. Patrick's Day.

51:36
Tanner
Hey. And this is me dropping to my roommate that I was gonna ask to do the same thing because I also wanted to host. I wanted to host.

51:42
Julia
Yeah. I like that.

51:43
Kieran
We'll be talking about that actually super soon, because St. Patrick's Day is in the three months. Yeah. Less than a month.

51:48
Julia
Three weeks.

51:48
Tanner
Yeah. Or maybe four.

51:50
Kieran
No, it's a month.

51:51
Tanner
It's a month.

51:51
Kieran
It's a month. Well, it just depends on when anyways. Depends on when we're gonna do it. You get the point.

51:56
Tanner
Podcast. Just us playing the party.

51:57
Kieran
Yeah.

51:57
Tanner
We're like.

51:57
Kieran
Okay, so I'm picking out this theme. Yes. I'm hosting a Valentine's party. Very excited. I've been buying a lot of decorations. I bought an outfit for it. I need to show you. I bought a shirt and I bought a dress, too. Yes.

52:10
Tanner
I'll wear what you don't wear.

52:11
Kieran
Perfect. I'll give you the dress.

52:13
Tanner
Awesome.

52:15
Kieran
Yes. Very excited about this. I love Valentine's Day. We're gonna have heart shaped pasta. We're gonna get heart shaped chicken nuggets. We're gonna have chicken nugget. There's gonna be.

52:24
Tanner
There's gonna be.

52:24
Kieran
There's so many things. My mom. My mom bought some treats that I'll put out. Tweets, some. I think it's like chocolate covered marshmallows and some, like, cookies and I don't know. It'll be fun on Valentine's Day itself. I believe. Me and Julia are gonna go do a breakfast brunch. A breakfast brunch. And it's gonna be like a dress up. Like, I want photos. I want everybody to feel jealous that they're not with me. Then I'm going to the basketball game.

52:48
Julia
That.

52:48
Kieran
That stay that day with a guy, technically, who.

52:52
Julia
Oh, never mind. He listens to the podcast.

52:53
Kieran
He does listen to the podcast.

52:54
Julia
Anyway.

52:54
Tanner
Can we shout him?

52:55
Kieran
No, Shout out Ian. Yay.

52:59
Tanner
A different one. A different one.

53:00
Kieran
A different Ian.

53:01
Tanner
Not redhead.

53:02
Kieran
This is not redhead Ian. This is the other Ian. Every time I talk about basketball.

53:06
Julia
This is rowing club Ian.

53:07
Tanner
This is.

53:08
Kieran
That's how he rowed.

53:09
Julia
This is what he does for fun.

53:11
Kieran
I really hope that's one of the promotional clips.

53:14
Julia
Hey, Ian.

53:17
Kieran
I won't be doing that. I am going to the basketball game with him. He better ask me to be his valentine.

53:25
Tanner
But that's what Ian.

53:27
Kieran
If I'm gonna be spending my Valentine's Day, it's fine. I'm kidding, Ian.

53:32
Tanner
I'm telling you right now.

53:33
Julia
Hey, hey.

53:36
Tanner
Ian.

53:37
Kieran
Ask her.

53:37
Tanner
Ian, you want to ask her so bad. I just do. I just really want to. She's right there.

53:41
Julia
Look at her. Look at her. Isn't she beautiful?

53:46
Tanner
Okay, sorry.

53:48
Kieran
Anyway, so I'm going to the basketball gift with Ian and then me and Julia are going to my parents house after that for dinner. Because my parents always do something for dinner on Valentine's Day and they always give me and my siblings and whomever I bring home with me being my friends little Valentine's.

54:04
Julia
I'm sorry.

54:05
Kieran
So she did buy you some stuff? I was there and she got it.

54:08
Julia
Well, when I left last night, she was like, I'll see you next weekend, sweetie. And I said, yeah, you will.

54:12
Kieran
She's very excited. She, I went over, she might be making breakfast too. It's either pizza or it's gonna be breakfast. And I'm hoping it's the pizza.

54:19
Julia
I'm also hoping it's the pizza, but I will eat the breakfast as well.

54:22
Kieran
I think she's talking about making chocolate whipped cream filled croissants and like quiche and stuff.

54:29
Tanner
And you're bringing the extras home?

54:30
Kieran
Yeah, I'll be taking it. No, but when I, I went to help clean up yesterday cuz were there for the super bowl. And she's like, I just love when you have your friends over. I love hearing you laugh and I love like she also like your mom.

54:41
Tanner
Is like so worried about you.

54:43
Kieran
My parents like have told me more than once that they love the people that I surround myself with in my life. We were just thinking about like you have such good friends and like the people you bring home are like just such good people. Like they always make you laugh and they love you and they support you and like, you know, like I obviously have drama in my life, but I don't really have that much.

55:01
Julia
Not me.

55:02
Tanner
No.

55:03
Kieran
Like, you know, it's every now and then with something but I don't really have that much friend drama and I, I pride myself and I feel like I have really good like the people I'm friends with are good people.

55:12
Julia
It's true.

55:12
Tanner
Wait, I'm surprised we haven't talked about this yet.

55:15
Kieran
Okay.

55:17
Tanner
Kieran does have a Valentine's Day. Her mom told her to just call somber up.

55:23
Julia
Oh yes.

55:24
Tanner
I don't know how we haven't talked about this.

55:26
Kieran
My mom did tell me. She's like, you should just DM Somber. Like why not just call.

55:31
Tanner
Let's just call Taylor up.

55:33
Kieran
No, because she was like, he's cute. He's your age.

55:35
Julia
Age.

55:36
Kieran
And he's like six foot six or something like that.

55:39
Tanner
You can say six, seven. Sorry. How to do it? I had to do it.

55:44
Kieran
No, also I need to address it again. I keep touching my nose. It's because my nose ring is flipping out.

55:49
Tanner
She's picking her nose. She's got crazy bones.

55:53
Julia
Ew. Like, rotten.

55:57
Kieran
Anyhow, so, yes, those are my Valentine's plans. We're gonna eat pizza, and I think we're making chocolate lava cake. Maybe bus. Oh, my mom's gonna give us Valentine's. I already know what mine is because she gets me the same thing every year. And it's chocolate covered strawberries, and I'm so excited. It's one of my favorite desserts ever. Chocolate covered strawberries and caramel apples are two of my favorite desserts of all time, and I always forget about them. Oh, we will be wrapping up soon. I forgot Tanner has class.

56:21
Julia
Do you want to hear about.

56:23
Kieran
Yeah, no, I'm not done. No, I'm just saying in the next.

56:25
Julia
Like, yes, of course. Well, obviously, I'll be going to brunch with here and dressing up and slaying. And then I text my friend the other day, and I was like, I need to meet your cats. Like, I need to. I need to pet a cat right now. And she's like, okay, well, the only days are I'm for your. Blah, blah. And I was like, how about Saturday? And she's like, okay, she has one of those naked cats. She has one of those. And then she has this other cat named Liana who has no teeth because she's an old lady. And I just am so excited to just. Just hang out. And this person that I'm friends with is actually the funniest person I've ever met in my life. Like, actually hilarious. So we suck.

57:04
Tanner
We're not funny, you guys.

57:05
Julia
Like, I've actually been fake laughing at you guys this whole time. I'm laughing at you, not with you. Anyway, so she's really funny, and I'm excited to hang out with her. And then we're going to Kieran's house.

57:13
Tanner
And.

57:16
Julia
Hanging out with her mom and her dad and I guess her sibling. Okay.

57:20
Kieran
Yeah.

57:20
Julia
The fact that your younger brother is in a successful relationship at the age of what, 14.

57:26
Kieran
He's 14.

57:27
Julia
And does he listen to the podcast?

57:29
Kieran
No.

57:30
Julia
Can I speak on? That boy is gay, and I really believe that. And he has a girlfriend. And I, like, I. I found out that he's been seeing this girl yesterday, and I said, that boy's gay. We all know that boy's gay. Like, we all know that boy's gay. So I don't really know what's going on.

57:50
Kieran
I am choosing not to speak on this topic, because my parents listen to the podcast girl.

57:55
Julia
Amy, I know you agree with me.

57:56
Kieran
She was only talking about it last night.

57:58
Julia
My queen. I know. You know.

58:00
Kieran
I know.

58:00
Tanner
Amy would love her gay son. She would just love it.

58:04
Julia
She just loves him secretly.

58:05
Kieran
She wants a gay child.

58:06
Julia
No. Well. And that's valid. But anyway. So actually crazy that your younger brother who is gay, has a girlfriend before we have a boyfriend.

58:16
Kieran
Maybe canoodling too much low key.

58:19
Julia
Aren't your mom saying she like.

58:20
Kieran
Yes.

58:20
Julia
Walk in on them?

58:23
Kieran
Not like in on them. Just walked in on them. Like, my dad found them locked in my bathroom.

58:29
Tanner
They had to pee together.

58:32
Kieran
Their excuse was that they were trying to see each other's height in the mirror, but the door had to be closed.

58:36
Julia
That's it.

58:37
Tanner
I. Hey.

58:38
Julia
Oh, God bless. I have my prescription ready. Campus health. Okay.

58:44
Kieran
Yeah.

58:46
Julia
Wow. Yeah, so I actually.

58:49
Tanner
Wow. Hey, people.

58:50
Julia
Hey, people. Okay, let's.

58:52
Kieran
Do we have time?

58:54
Julia
Oh, let's do it. Yeah. We're at 58 minutes. Let's do each one share a quick notes app, and then we're done. Okay.

58:59
Tanner
Awesome. Awesome.

59:00
Kieran
Hit it.

59:00
Tanner
I'll go first. Okay. In my notes app, something that I like to keep is a list of future Halloween costumes.

59:06
Kieran
Yeah, I'm just gonna list off a couple.

59:08
Tanner
Couple costume idea. Little gay men. And night at the museum.

59:12
Julia
If you get it.

59:12
Tanner
You get it.

59:13
Kieran
I love those guys.

59:14
Tanner
Troye, Sivan.

59:15
Kieran
Yeah, yeah.

59:16
Tanner
Fiona Gallagher.

59:17
Kieran
Yeah, yeah.

59:18
Tanner
Horse. But one of us is the butt and the other is the head. Yeah, yeah, I'm the butt. Hello.

59:25
Kieran
Well, yeah.

59:25
Julia
Well, yeah.

59:26
Tanner
Britney Spears. Nosferatu.

59:29
Kieran
Yeah.

59:29
Tanner
Fergie. But when she had. When she peed her pants on stage that one time.

59:32
Julia
Okay.

59:33
Tanner
Sheila and Frank from Shameless. Wallace and Gromit.

59:37
Kieran
Yeah.

59:37
Tanner
And then Uma Thurman and Kill Bill.

59:39
Kieran
Yeah.

59:41
Julia
Slay. Thank you Notes out.

59:43
Kieran
Go. Let me scrounge up a notes app.

59:48
Julia
Well, I can go while you're thinking. Yeah. Mine is if you sit right next to me in an empty space and there's seats everywhere else. Yeah, you're canceled. I'm. I'm coming after you because I was sitting in tally this morning waiting for my food. They put a bunch of new seats in tally, and I was like, wait, this is lit. So I sat down. It's like, empty in there. Because it was right after I got out of the gym, so it was early. And this man just sits right next to me. Like, actually right next to me. And I said, be actually. So for real, why are you doing it? Like, get like, get away.

01:00:14
Kieran
It's like when it's an empty parking lot and you, like, someone parks right next to you.

01:00:18
Julia
Right.

01:00:19
Kieran
Hands on site. Anyway, mine, something that I've been sitting with recently is that people have been disrespecting my time.

01:00:24
Julia
Look, it's true.

01:00:26
Kieran
People have been really disrespecting my time lately, and it's been really getting me good. I. I don't know what it is. I mean, I do know what it is, but something that really grinds my gears probably top three things is when people disrespect my time. Like, when people, like, are super late to something, they're late consistently. They cancel last minute.

01:00:45
Julia
Or they don't even, like, text you back.

01:00:47
Kieran
They don't text me back. They will say, we're gonna do something, and then I go to confirm and I get hit with silence. They show up 30 minutes late to something when I already. I only have, like, an hour.

01:00:57
Julia
Right.

01:00:57
Kieran
To spare.

01:00:58
Julia
Right. And waiting.

01:00:59
Tanner
Lack of respect.

01:01:00
Kieran
Lack of respect. It's just recently, in the past couple weeks, I've been hit one after the other, and it's been really getting me good.

01:01:06
Tanner
And, you know who you are.

01:01:08
Kieran
They don't. They're not.

01:01:09
Tanner
Oh, and you don't know who you are.

01:01:10
Julia
You are.

01:01:12
Kieran
They also don't listen to the podcast, but.

01:01:14
Julia
Fake fans.

01:01:15
Kieran
Yeah, it just. It's been getting me good recently, and it's just, hey, guys. Text back. Hey, guys.

01:01:21
Julia
No, don't beg someone for their time or attention. Don't do it.

01:01:26
Kieran
Don't do it. And on the topic of reaching out, reaching back, people should start reaching out to me more to hang out with me, because I'm tired of being the person to ask to hang out. Thank you.

01:01:35
Julia
Thank you.

01:01:36
Kieran
There's this one person who I'm really close friends with that I have to keep begging to hang out.

01:01:39
Tanner
Call them out. Unless you don't want to.

01:01:41
Kieran
No, I won't. It's me. It's us. It's not Julio. It's very easy to convince Julia to hang out with me, and I'm grateful for that. Oh, can we also do a quick something that we love about each other?

01:01:53
Julia
Really quick?

01:01:54
Tanner
Yeah.

01:01:54
Kieran
In the spirit of Valentine's Day, now that we've been talking so negatively about everything in the world, we're gonna say something nice about each other very quickly.

01:02:00
Julia
Okay.

01:02:02
Kieran
I don't want to go first, though.

01:02:03
Julia
Oh, you go first.

01:02:03
Tanner
I'll go first. Something that I love about Julia is Julia has one of the funniest personalities I've Ever met. Like, I love when Julia goes, nasty, you're nasty. And she means it as a compliment, and it's beautiful.

01:02:19
Kieran
When Julia says, you're slaying me, that's the biggest compliment I'll ever receive because she only says that for really funny things. It's true.

01:02:24
Tanner
And something that I love about Kieran is me and Kieran have a beautiful bond. Like, truly, I could not. I don't think that I could function as a person without Kieran by my side. Anytime I need something, I'm knocking on her door. Anytime that I need any advice, I'm going to Kieran. Kieran truly is one of the greatest friends that you could ever have. And I'm so grateful to be blessed.

01:02:46
Kieran
With a friend like Kieran McLean me when I cry. Okay, okay.

01:02:52
Tanner
Now it's your turn to say nice things about me.

01:02:53
Julia
Yeah. Okay, I'll go. One thing that I love about you, Tanner, is low key, similar to what you said about me. I think you are so funny, and I appreciate how genuine you are. And I don't know, like, you're just so easy to have a conversation with that I appreciate that. Like, I've never. I'm never, like, oh, I have to hang out with this, like. Like, guy that, like, is, like, my friend's roommate. Like. But, like, you're my friend, and I think you pretty nasty, so I love.

01:03:24
Tanner
Being nasty, you guys. Yeah.

01:03:26
Kieran
Julia did ask if Tanner could be the guest, because I text her. I was like, we need a guest for the Valentine's episode. She's like, what about Tanner? He's pretty nasty.

01:03:31
Julia
It's pretty. That is exactly what I said, actually.

01:03:33
Tanner
Well, she read it to me. She read me that text.

01:03:36
Julia
Yep. Something that I love about Kieran.

01:03:39
Tanner
Something.

01:03:40
Julia
I think it's pretty nasty as well. And. And I just. I really.

01:03:45
Tanner
It's pretty nasty.

01:03:46
Kieran
That's the whole compliment.

01:03:47
Julia
It's pretty nasty. I don't know. I just. I think I am very blessed to have found you. I think when I think about. I think a lot, apparently, because I just said think eight times in that sentence. But when I think about being in college and having, like, college friends and then, like, oh, my God, that it is my college friend right there. It right there. And I think about when we graduate and we grow up and when I get married and when I have kids, it's gonna be my kid's aunt, and it's gonna be in my wedding, and.

01:04:15
Kieran
Julia's already gonna be one of my bridesmaids. Like, Julie's gonna Be one of my. I'm gonna have multiple maids of honor, and Julia's gonna be one of them.

01:04:21
Julia
Well, yes. Well, yes. Yeah. I don't know. I just, like, I'm grateful to have found you, girl. I really am. I just think it. I just think it is so funny that we started work on the same day.

01:04:30
Kieran
Yup.

01:04:31
Julia
And then now we. We have a podcast together. And, like, we're gonna be in each other's weddings. And just like, that is just.

01:04:36
Kieran
No, you're one of my best friends.

01:04:37
Julia
No, it is. It's such a blessing to have found you like that. Like, the Lord really sent you to me. He just sat you down on that desk and said, for you. Her. And I said, yeah, it.

01:04:48
Kieran
I love being called an it last night.

01:04:51
Julia
And Ian was like, did you just call her it? And I was like, I've had to.

01:04:54
Kieran
Clarify them to more than one people that my pronouns are not it. Julia just refers to me as it is.

01:04:59
Julia
Because it's nasty.

01:04:59
Kieran
Because it's nasty.

01:05:00
Julia
Anyway, your turn.

01:05:02
Kieran
Something I love about Tanner. I love Tanner's passion in the sense that, like, if I'm upset about something, Tanner is immediately, like, what's going on? Like, let's talk about it. Like. Like, it's such, like, let me give you advice. Like, but it's, like, so heartfelt and so genuine and so passionate. Like, when Tanner's in a good mood, it's with so much love. And I'll say not like lust. Like, lust, but, like, you know, like, so much like, love and passion and spirit, and it's just, like, genuine. Like, it's very. Like, Tanner feels all of his emotions very genuinely, and it makes sense. Me feel so much better because. Well, not, like. Not like that. I just, like.

01:05:36
Julia
No, I. I know what you're saying.

01:05:37
Kieran
It makes me feel, like, so, like, seen and also so appreciated. I feel like I can finally, like, be some, like, my part of myself. Cuz, like, me and Tanner just are. Like, we just.

01:05:43
Julia
We just are.

01:05:44
Kieran
We can be whoever we want to be, and we do it 100%. And Tanner, someone who I can 100% be myself with. Because Tanner is not one to judge. Tanner's one to take that and amplify it.

01:05:52
Tanner
Tanner is.

01:05:53
Julia
Love it, love it.

01:05:55
Kieran
So I love that about Tanner. Tanner makes me feel like I can be whoever I want to be.

01:06:02
Julia
Just so sweet. Julia.

01:06:04
Kieran
There's not enough nice things I could say about Julia.

01:06:06
Julia
I can't think of a single thing.

01:06:08
Kieran
There's so many I could. I could be Here forever. Julia is so funny. She's so caring. She's so supportive. Julia is genuinely my other half. We get called twins a lot and it's like, people call us the same, like, each other's names.

01:06:20
Julia
It's true.

01:06:21
Kieran
We act very similar. It's true. Like, we are a copy of each other in a lot of forms, but.

01:06:25
Julia
Like, a cocky of each other.

01:06:26
Kieran
No, Julia is my best friend.

01:06:28
Julia
It's true.

01:06:28
Kieran
I could not be here without Julie. I would not be standing.

01:06:30
Julia
It's true.

01:06:31
Kieran
So I love Julia.

01:06:33
Tanner
That's just so beautiful, you guys.

01:06:36
Kieran
And I. I just love this podcast, too. I think this has been a really great opportunity for us to.

01:06:40
Julia
I agree.

01:06:41
Kieran
Express ourselves and, like, it's just a fun outlet and it's such a random. I'll say.

01:06:45
Julia
Side note, I was looking at our. This document because we put all of our, like, outlines for all the episodes on it, and we have done a lot. We have a lot. And I'm very proud of that. That and also I've learned so much. I just. Just looking at Taylor in the camera and he's just like, I.

01:07:01
Tanner
We.

01:07:02
Julia
I don't know. This has just been so fun. I've. I've made a lot of connections through this and I've learned a lot, and it's just. It's just a fun old time.

01:07:09
Kieran
Somebody asked us the other day, like, do you ever feel like you're, like, exposing yourself or, like, you know, like, exploiting yourself for content, basically? And honestly? No.

01:07:16
Julia
Like, no.

01:07:18
Kieran
Everything that I talk about in these episodes are things that I, A, want to talk about or B, need to, like, obviously, do I want to sit here and talk about how I was really depressed last year and share that side of myself with, you know, however many amount of people who listen to it. Probably not.

01:07:30
Tanner
It's a little.

01:07:31
Kieran
Millions.

01:07:32
Tanner
Millions of viewers.

01:07:33
Kieran
Yeah. It's a little awkward. It's kind of weird because I'm. It's a parasocial relationship, but, like, at the same time, like, it's something that I should talk about and something that's important to me and something that, you know, like, I don't get to really share outside anywhere else but here.

01:07:45
Julia
I agree. I, like, sometimes I'm like, people, like, text me something or say something. I'm like, oh, my God, I forgot that you listened to that. I can't believe I talked about that.

01:07:52
Kieran
Yeah.

01:07:53
Julia
Like, because I'm so open and honest about my dating life on this podcast. Podcast, I sometimes get people that are like, are, like, they ask me about it or like, I've been on dates where the person I'm on it with is like, so I was listening to your podcast and I heard you say that, and I was like, that's like low key crazy. But also that's what I wanted the podcast to be. Is.

01:08:14
Kieran
Is.

01:08:15
Julia
Let me, like, speak clearly and tell you the truth of what I experienced, because you are not alone in anything that you do. Like, genuinely, we've all been there. Queen.

01:08:24
Kieran
Like, in a campus of 40, 000 people. You're not the one.

01:08:27
Julia
We're not all. We are all in it together. Yeah. Yeah. No, like, I. I will always be open and honest about what I do because I don't ever want anybody to be ashamed of anything that they do. Unless it's like, you know, freaked up.

01:08:41
Tanner
Shameful.

01:08:41
Julia
Yeah, don't feel shame. Don't feel guilt.

01:08:44
Kieran
You know, you should never feel ashamed about following us on the podcast at TWTS Pod. Our individual accounts are linked in the bio as well. Yes. Make sure to follow Tanner at tanner13z.

01:08:58
Tanner
And also shout out to Epsilon Ada.

01:09:01
Julia
NC State Rush App Ada.

01:09:03
Kieran
Oh, wow, we're gonna bleep that. I'm kidding.

01:09:06
Tanner
I'm kidding.

01:09:07
Kieran
Yes. Make sure to follow us on the Instagram, ask us any questions or dms, any topics you want to talk about. Tell us your favorite highlight from the episode or just like, our content so that it gets promoted. Other people listen to it. So.

01:09:19
Julia
Because we're.

01:09:21
Kieran
Because they don't always get it right. Bye, guys.
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