Sylvester Stallone and His Friends' Films Podcast | Demolition Man: Three Seashells & Simulated Sex

Dive into the 1993 Sylvester Stallone sci-fi action classic Demolition Man! The crew breaks down Stallone as John Spartan, Wesley Snipes as the chaotic Simon Phoenix, Sandra Bullock as Huxley, and the wild utopian future society complete with three seashells, simulated sex, and cryo-prison twists.

We cover the over-the-top action, hilarious one-liners, future tech predictions that came true, casting stories, and why this leave-your-brain-at-the-door buddy-cop movie still delivers. From the Taco Bell showdown to the epic finale, we discuss what holds up and what doesn’t.

Creators and Guests

Host

Craig Cohen

The OG Podfather

Host

Doug Greenberg

He has Big Guns

Host

Ryan Rebalkin

What is Sylvester Stallone and His Friends' Films Podcast ?

Welcome to the *Sylvester Stallone and Friends* podcast, your go-to show for fans of Sylvester Stallone’s action-packed legacy, hosted by Ryan and a variety of other passionate hosts! This podcast dives deep into Stallone’s standalone films and those of his action-hero contemporaries, with special episodes dedicated to Frank Stallone. Please note that *Rocky* and *Rambo* are covered exclusively on our sister podcasts, *One More Round: The Rocky Series Podcast* and *It’s a Long Road: The Rambo Series Podcast*. Join us for engaging discussions, behind-the-scenes insights, and a nostalgic celebration of the films that defined a genre. Whether you’re a longtime fan or new to the scene, subscribe to the *Sylvester Stallone and Friends* feed for action-packed episodes you won’t want to miss!

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0:2222 secondsright welcome everybody to another episode of Sylvester Stallone fan podcast Network episode where three
0:3030 secondshosts from three different podcasts join forces to talk about a Sylvester Stallone film that is pretty much not
0:3737 secondsRocky or Rambo so I am Ryan from Going the Distance the rocky series podcast I'm Doug I'm from the rocky Minute
0:4646 secondsPodcast breaking down the Rocky movies one minute at a time yeah and I'm Craig from the Sylvester Stallone fan podcast
0:5353 secondsNetwork and sometimes the s cast far less frequently well Craig you do have something coming
1:021 minute, 2 secondsup which should be out before this episode reaches the podcast feed you want to talk about that yeah yeah we're we're doing on the slide cast and you
1:091 minute, 9 secondsguys were both a part of it November is a big big month in Rocky anniversary history or at least November 2020 I
1:181 minute, 18 secondsbelieve a couple days ago we had the anniversary of Rocky five it's 30th and in a couple of days we're going to have
1:271 minute, 27 secondsthe 35th anniversary of Rocky 4 so we'll be putting out a dedicated episode for each movie Rocky 4 will come first which
1:361 minute, 36 secondswill include discussions with you and uh and Doug separately as well as Mike kunda who we always love um having a part of the sly cast and on Rocky 4
1:451 minute, 45 secondswe'll also be talking to Rocky four Super Fan Greg troan and then for Rocky five again you and Doug separately uh
1:521 minute, 52 secondsMike kunda and myself both episodes will also have some listener contributed to contents got a couple of um email from
2:002 minuteslisteners and then also I think we got one or two audio recordings like Brian said I'm not sure when this episode's going to hit the the network feed but it
2:092 minutes, 9 secondswill be after the anniversary show is hit so yeah we're looking forward to it I just got to finish putting the finishing touches on the on the editing
2:162 minutes, 16 secondsand uh make us all sound a lot smarter than rocky oh boy that's tough to
2:222 minutes, 22 secondsdo guys we put this up to uh vote and this was a close one basically the Judge Dread of the three was the throwaway
2:322 minutes, 32 secondsvote people did vote for judge Dre but that was a far distance third to between The Expendables part one and Demolition Man and just so you guys are tracking on
2:412 minutes, 41 secondsour Facebook poll Expendables and demolishment tied so it's was up to Twitter to break the tie so basically the Facebook the Facebook poll was void
2:492 minutes, 49 secondsit didn't count because it was a tie so we went to Twitter to break that tie and this won by like three votes or whatever it was a very small margin we almost had
2:572 minutes, 57 seconds100 people voting total so that's pretty cool it's a good thing that judge shred didn't win because Craig might have had some Vietnam flashback of editing that
3:053 minutes, 5 secondsmonster well I wouldn't had to watch it again that would have been the only good thing I'm kind of excited that Demolition Man won it's been a while
3:133 minutes, 13 secondssince I've seen it but it's one of those movies that I feel like I've seen so much when I was a you know teenager and a young adult I thought I remembered it
3:203 minutes, 20 secondsdifferently than the rewatch well this first talk about the first time you saw it now Doug we know Doug didn't see any special sow movie in the theater so we
3:283 minutes, 28 secondsknow he didn't see this in the theater am I correct I never saw anything in a theater that wasn't a Star Wars movie that's fine that's fine I I did watch
3:363 minutes, 36 secondsthis a bunch you know in my younger days I always love this movie I haven't watched it in a while H you know not
3:433 minutes, 43 secondslike super long time ago maybe about two years ago I watched it but I haven't seen it a lot between my younger years
3:513 minutes, 51 secondsand that I just enjoy it as much as I used to okay I did see it when it came out in the theaters 1993 October it was
3:583 minutes, 58 secondsjust before my do some math here I was 17 when I saw it just about turned 18 that was the first time I saw it and I
4:054 minutes, 5 secondsbought it on VHS watched the Dickens out of it and I don't think I ever bought it on DVD funny enough so I've seen it I guess on streaming or TV since then cuz
4:134 minutes, 13 secondsI never bought the DVD of this Craig what about you you probably saw this in theaters I presume I think so I know I was in college probably my best memory
4:214 minutes, 21 secondsof the time this movie came out is I think on Wednesdays that was like my treat myself to lunch on College money
4:304 minutes, 30 secondsbudget go to Taco Bell on Wednesdays and I remember the um try liner the Demolition Man try liner with Sly and
4:384 minutes, 38 secondsWesley and the cup and everything if I was actively in college when this movie came out there's a good chance I didn't see it I didn't see a lot of movies when
4:474 minutes, 47 secondsI was in college at least in theaters this one I probably saw when it first came out on on home video and it's one I
4:534 minutes, 53 secondswatched a lot I actually have this as part of a really cool I think it was like a four movie set four slly movies
5:005 minutesand two discs one movie on each side I think it was right over the top The Specialist Tango and cash and Demolition
5:085 minutes, 8 secondsMan oh wow cuz when I sat down to watch this I put it in the first thing I heard was let's do this and I was like Oh
5:155 minutes, 15 secondswrong side and I had to flip it over and get demolition let's do I got that ring in my head that's funny well this is the
5:235 minutes, 23 secondsfourth and last film from that box set that you own that we are now doing as a stolen podcast Network that's funny cuz we've done the other three films quite
5:315 minutes, 31 secondsthe collection yet trust I can throw that DVD out now much like our podcast is
5:395 minutes, 39 secondsgarbage I like the film don't get me wrong but it's funny how much I found wrong with it now it doesn't mean I didn't like the film I didn't enjoy it I
5:465 minutes, 46 secondsenjoyed it as a movie it's a fun watch I understand it's uh a fun watch but I I seem to recall if I if I to go back in
5:535 minutes, 53 secondstime to 1993 17 almost 18 years old huge SL Mark as they say I was a huge sest the biggest Sylvester Stone fan I still
6:026 minutes, 2 secondsam but as a kid I just worshiped him as a teenager and I knew that he was coming off the dud of stoer my M shoot that came out in
6:096 minutes, 9 seconds1992 so I knew as an action fan an action movie fan Sly was in dire need of a hit dire need of a commercial
6:166 minutes, 16 secondssuccessful hit previous though just before this film Cliffhanger was released first of the same year so he had a really big year 93 a really big
6:256 minutes, 25 secondscomeback year Cliffhanger as we know is it's got to be top three non- Rocky ramble film franchise film with slice career a lot of people would argue
6:326 minutes, 32 secondsCliffhanger was 95 wasn't it no it was 93 no whatever year yeah the same year as Jurassic Park because I remember we went to go see Jurassic Park which was
6:416 minutes, 41 secondssold out4 so we went to see Cliffhanger must have been '94 then no 94 was Daylight or something close to that if only there was a machine that
6:506 minutes, 50 secondscan settle this argument if there were only were real Sylvester Stallone fans on this podcast so 93 was demul shment
6:596 minutes, 59 secondsand Cliffhanger it was a big year F can't wait to prove you wrong okay please do please do it definitely wasn't
7:057 minutes, 5 seconds95 God damn it he's right yeah if Ryan's Dependable for anything it's doing the the research the bare minimum of the of
7:147 minutes, 14 secondsthe research Ryan you would mentioned Cliffhanger I think outside of the two main franchises it's probably Cliffhanger and then you can't
7:227 minutes, 22 secondsunderestimate Cobra as well and Cobra underperformed I think for an R-rated movie but in terms of Sly awareness I
7:307 minutes, 30 secondsthink Cobra is pretty high up on people's list in terms of movies they talk about if they were going down there
7:377 minutes, 37 secondsexcuse me list of fly movies that were non Rocky or Rambo right it's funny that we haven't covered Cobra yet it's weird it's one we've kind of just I figure no
7:467 minutes, 46 secondsmatter what poll we put it on it's going to win I think that's why I haven't put it on a poll is because I agree yeah the moment it's a Runway we would just have
7:537 minutes, 53 secondsto say this month we're doing Cobra and that's it you know what would be an interesting poll a one for one would be cobra versus a party of kitty and stud so be interest to see which one wins
8:028 minutes, 2 secondsthat why why would you do that why would you do that to us you bring that up so often I think you want to do party
8:108 minutes, 10 secondsK what don't you don't you want to see Stone's Cobra does andv have that one on uh oh
8:188 minutes, 18 secondsprobably oh probably so Ryan you you had mentioned and I know we're going to get into the rundown of this you would mention looking for problems in this
8:268 minutes, 26 secondsmovie and I mean the biggest problem with this movie is the concept and once you get beyond the concept of the movie
8:338 minutes, 33 secondsyou can sort of go along for the ride but I I don't understand what society would think a cryogenic it's almost like let's just freeze him and let somebody
8:418 minutes, 41 secondselse worry about him in 70 years yeah yeah so we'll get into that this film if it was made today would have been $123
8:508 minutes, 50 secondsmillion budget which actually for a big time action filmed like if this was made today that's a small potatoes for a
8:578 minutes, 57 secondsbudget 123 is a very feasible or nominal amount however it did make its budget back it doubled its budget with today's
9:059 minutes, 5 secondsdollars 256 million worldwide so not not a bomb a two for one investment not bad
9:119 minutes, 11 secondsif anything else I think it's biggest Legacy is it basically gave us
9:189 minutes, 18 secondsDennis Rodman Dennis Rodman clearly I think even in the Last Dance he talks about it the influence of Simon Phoenix
9:269 minutes, 26 secondson Dennis Rodman like Dennis Rodman was a normal dude until he saw Demolition Man that weird he went off the deep end
9:349 minutes, 34 secondswell I don't know if he was a normal dude but I mean you know he was he does credit Simon Phoenix as his inspiration for the wacky hair that's awesome and
9:419 minutes, 41 secondsWesley Snipes hated it so that's the irony the moment film was stopped he shaved his head if you think about the two big stars at the time that command
9:509 minutes, 50 secondsHigh salaries plus all the the pyrot Technics I think they spent $2 million just making prototypes of futuristic
9:579 minutes, 57 secondscars just so they can use in this movie like that budget does seem pretty small compared to what it could have been I
10:0410 minutes, 4 secondsdon't think Wesley Snipes was a huge I think he was commanding huge salaries I mean I it was after that that he got
10:1210 minutes, 12 secondspassenger 57 and murder at what 40 4,200 1,600 before this it was Major League
10:2010 minutes, 20 secondsand White Men Can't Jump right right oh yeah oh yeah yeah but both both of those movies are kind of I I guess white man
10:2810 minutes, 28 secondscan't jump probably gave him some clout but jungle fever New Jack City oh yeah those are big oo brown man that's timely
10:3510 minutes, 35 secondstoo because he was giving out turkeys on Thanksgiving W KP and Cincinnati that's not the turkey
10:4510 minutes, 45 secondsdrop I love that episode very good point about Wesley Snipes I remember seeing this and I certainly knew who Wesley Snipes was with all the films you guys
10:5210 minutes, 52 secondsjust made I I mentioned I had seen I think every one of them you've mentioned I saw before seen this movie but I wasn't a Wesley Snipes fan it just happened to see a lot of movies when I
11:0011 minuteswas a teenager I was a video addict I went to the uh movies and I went to video stores all the time but I seen all those movies and so it was fun to watch
11:0811 minutes, 8 secondsWesley Snipes I remember enjoying his performance and I also remember and of course on this rewatch again we're seeing a bit of a co-star kind of
11:1811 minutes, 18 secondsoutperforming Sly a little bit I think Sly brought his game up a little bit in this one I mean if you want to talk
11:2511 minutes, 25 secondsabout the comedy of this compared to the comedy of stoer my mom will shoot funny yeah I thought he was great in this I thought his comedy timing and his
11:3411 minutes, 34 secondsdeliveries were much better yes Wesley Snipes you could say yeah he he stole the show from Sly but I wouldn't put Sly
11:4011 minutes, 40 secondsthat much past him Wesley Snipes just he he's a charismatic dude anytime he's on screen he's he's pretty much the focus I
11:4911 minutes, 49 secondsagree totally with sly's comedic timing and uh and what have you was way better in this than probably because of the
11:5711 minutes, 57 secondswriting but uh was way better better than a stop from I'm almost shoot it's just again with the fight sequences it's a weird it's always now watching Sly
12:0512 minutes, 5 secondsfight I guess I'm so Jaded by the the James Bond movies of today the Jason bour movies The Matrix all these John Wick movies fighting styles that we see
12:1312 minutes, 13 secondswatching slly kind of just do the same gut punch gut Punch Yeah it's not like this you have to
12:2012 minutes, 20 secondsthink of of the time like this the action back then wasn't in the fights it was in the the explosions and the the blood squibs and everything that's
12:2812 minutes, 28 secondsthat's what was now yeah the fight choreography is incredible now that's crazy back then I mean I I I don't know it didn't it didn't distract me that
12:3612 minutes, 36 secondsmuch except the obvious stunt doubles in a few scenes what are you talking about speaking of stunt speaking of stunt doubles Wesley Snipes wanted to do all
12:4512 minutes, 45 secondsof his stunts and they filmed Snipes doing all his stunts but they actually ended up refilm it with the stuntman anyways after Wesley had did did his
12:5312 minutes, 53 secondsstunts well he also I heard he he was so proficient at his uh slow it down yeah they had to SL they had to ask him to
13:0013 minutesslow his kicks and his punches down because he's like a black belt in some martial art I I didn't uh he's legit I mean if you watch this movie and then
13:0813 minutes, 8 secondsyou go and watch especially the first two Blade movies oh yeah yeah the level martial arts there is beyond you know just learning moves for a movie there's
13:1713 minutes, 17 secondslogic to it it doesn't feel forced or doesn't really choreographed and I think that's something that completely
13:2513 minutes, 25 secondsperformer dependent you know you compare the martial arts that Wesley's doing in in these movies to like what Ki Reeves
13:3313 minutes, 33 secondsdid in The Matrix well he began training when he was 12 he's a fifth degree black belt in shoan karate and a second
13:4013 minutes, 40 secondsdeegree black belt in hapkido wow he's also trained in capaa and a number of other disciplines including Kung Fu
13:4713 minutes, 47 secondsand kung fu is a big yeah Brazilian jiu-jitsu and kickboxing wow so he's no slouch he's no joke too bad didn't have
13:5613 minutes, 56 secondsa black belt in paying his taxes
13:5913 minutes, 59 seconds[Music]
14:0114 minutes, 1 secondit's a black belt in the evasion I had no idea that he was that proficient and as a fighter okay I don't know why I didn't know that I mean it
14:0914 minutes, 9 secondstranslates well on screen he's very good with his movements I didn't notice it in the film but there's a number of kicks
14:1614 minutes, 16 secondsthat the director had to get him to slow down because it was like a blur on film once he slowed it down it looked kind of
14:2314 minutes, 23 secondsclunky and you know not natural I didn't catch any of that but well it's interesting that you speak about kicks because as you guys probably read this
14:3014 minutes, 30 secondswas supposed to be a jeanclaude vanam Steven cull vehicle yeah but neither of them wanted to play the villain Expendables part two which we reviewed
14:3914 minutes, 39 secondsvanam did a great job as a villain and it's too bad he didn't have the confidence to play a Villain at this point in his care I guess he was he was
14:4614 minutes, 46 secondskind of on his way out of the big screen movies I think it was shortly after this he did like double imp or what was it called uh what the one that he did with um robman speaking of sudden an impact
14:5514 minutes, 55 secondsno he did one Rob oh uh d double team double team see this right a little play on words with the BOS the basketball so vanam didn't want to be the bad guy
15:0315 minutes, 3 secondswhich is too bad because in 2012 he showed us just how good of a bad guy he plays and it's it's too bad he didn't have the confidence to it's weird how
15:1115 minutes, 11 secondsactors back in the day didn't want to turn heel when they're seen as the good guy even further than that Sly actually approached Jackie Chan first to play the
15:1915 minutes, 19 secondsbad guy and and so Jackie Chan had he accepted it would have said yes like he would he would have done it because it was he was the first choice by slly I guess whatever Sly wants he probably
15:2815 minutes, 28 secondsgets but jackiechan turned it down because he too didn't want to play a bad guy it's different nowadays now nowadays people love playing the villain but back
15:3515 minutes, 35 secondsthen it was kind of like oh I'm going to wreck my career if I'm seen as the bad guy yeah I think people just didn't want to be typ cast in any way but I don't
15:4315 minutes, 43 secondsknow if if you're a hero in four straight movies in a row and you play a bad guy I don't I don't see that doing anything damaging to your career it
15:5015 minutes, 50 secondsactually shows that you have a greater range and it makes you more marketable I think but it would have been interesting to see a Jackie Chan or or or Van Dam at
15:5815 minutes, 58 secondsthe time and I think if Van Dam had played the villain I guarantee you this box office would have almost been doubled at that time the wow factor of
16:0616 minutes, 6 secondshaving these two juggernauts on the screen together I think it would have just pushed it that much cuz it was a stone movie it was no one really went not very many people went because of
16:1416 minutes, 14 secondsSnipes I would say 90% of the audience went because it was a Sly movie but can you imagine the vanam fans would have gone too it would have increased the box
16:2116 minutes, 21 secondsoffice revenue especially big giant stars like that did Doug sound like a robot to you too Ryan yeah just say that again Doug
16:3016 minutes, 30 secondssorry oh where Craig are you getting him okay we can't hear you Doug we'll let you know when you come back in so Craig and I
16:3916 minutes, 39 secondswill keep going it's okay Craig you're still there oh yeah I am I was gonna say um have you seen Once Upon a Time in in Hollywood right oh yeah of course yeah I
16:4816 minutes, 48 secondsmean there's that whole thing where his agent is basically telling him you can't keep taking these roles where you're the villain on a a TV Western because people
16:5616 minutes, 56 secondsaren't going to say that's Rick Dalton they're going to say that's the guy that got his butt kicked by Maverick on Saturday night oh good point yeah yeah
17:0517 minutes, 5 secondsall right so let's talk about the director I couldn't believe this but this is the guy's first film his name was Marco
17:1217 minutes, 12 secondsbrila so he's an Italian Canadian director this was his first movie but he came on a suggestion by David Fincher cuz both directors were big- time big
17:2117 minutes, 21 secondsbudget commercial directors so David Fincher actually recommend recommended Marco to uh Joel Silver I think I heard something there Doug yeah is this any
17:2917 minutes, 29 secondsbetter yeah we're hearing you now I mean how's the quality though cuz I'm using my computer mic it's fine we hear you our tens and tens of listeners will suffer it's all
17:3717 minutes, 37 secondsgood is that what happened the other day Doug yeah I don't know what the hell's up like I it just must be a bed wire or something yeah I think so like I said it
17:4517 minutes, 45 secondscrackled away so it might have been yeah funny enough since this film his next film was excess baggage with bicho
17:5217 minutes, 52 secondsdeloro and Lea Silverstone and that was his last movie as a big film he's just gone on to do other stuff documentaries and stuff but he never really kind of
18:0018 minutesworked in quote unquote Hollywood again imagine your first movie having the real in the ego of Sylvester Stallone what do you want to talk about
18:0918 minutes, 9 secondsthat another movie with more issues on set I didn't read that much was attributed to him except not getting
18:1618 minutes, 16 secondsalong with Lori Petty who was first cast as lenina that's right so Lori Petty people might recognize her from a tank girl she also does many starring roles
18:2418 minutes, 24 secondsand other Point Break Point Break that's right Le Point Break Orange black she had a role in that as well if you watched that on Netflix yeah she didn't
18:3218 minutes, 32 secondsget along with Sly but also Sandra bolock mentioned that Sly was difficult to work with she just said he was like that big brother and I I kind of see it
18:4118 minutes, 41 secondsbecause Sly at the time of this film was 47 Sandra Bullock this is like her fifth movie to be in but this was her first major film and she was 29 so she she
18:5018 minutes, 50 secondsherself was kind of a late bloomer to the Hollywood scene and she actually didn't get popular because of this film cuz we know right after '94 speed came out that was the movie that pushed her
18:5918 minutes, 59 secondsover the edge for stardom there's something involved in the plot that really annoyed me about her her age he was supposed to have a daughter in this
19:0719 minutes, 7 secondswho when when while he's chirally Frozen his wife is a dressed somehow she dies but his daughter's never spoken of again
19:1419 minutes, 14 secondsit turns out that she joins Dennis L's Edgar Friendly's crew the scraps and um they're called scraps yeah the scraps so
19:2219 minutes, 22 secondsshe joins his crew and John Spartan's supposed to meet her during one of the scenes but the test audiences didn't
19:2919 minutes, 29 secondslike it because in turn when he hooks up with Huxley the test audiences didn't like the fact that he's hooking up with a girl who's roughly the same age as his
19:3819 minutes, 38 secondsdaughter so they cut the daughter stuff instead of the Love Story crap if you're gonna cut something I think that the daughter plot line is is far more
19:4619 minutes, 46 secondsimportant than him and and lenina hooking up that doesn't make sense he was Frozen was it 36 years6 years yeah
19:5419 minutes, 54 secondsand there's no way that sanra bolock or her character Lina Huxley whatever there's no way that she even looked close to 40 she was 29 at the time of
20:0320 minutes, 3 secondsfilm and she looked 24 25 hooking up with a girl younger than his daughter oh I see okay okay Roger that okay that
20:1120 minutes, 11 secondsthen that would have been I guess an issue yeah all right but do you guys want to talk about Sandra bulk performance overall how how she was in the film did you enjoy her she got a
20:1920 minutes, 19 secondsrazy for this yes she did I thought she was great I thought she was funnier than Benjamin brat than Rob Schneider how
20:2820 minutes, 28 secondsdare you I thought she was good R shider was awesome I love the his funniest line his line that made me
20:3620 minutes, 36 secondslaugh the most is it's it's a stupid throwaway line but we can just wait for another code to go red then when Phoenix
20:4320 minutes, 43 secondsperforms another murder death kill we'll know exactly where to pounce great plan thank you he likes
20:5120 minutes, 51 secondsyour plan
20:5220 minutes, 52 seconds[Music]
20:5620 minutes, 56 secondsChief I don't know why that was funny the way he's like he looks like he's three feet tall too every seene that Rob Schneider was in he played like a dwarf
21:0421 minutes, 4 secondsdid you notice that he looked like he was 4 feet tall he might just be a short guy yeah that's right they had they had Rob Schneider on his
21:1221 minutes, 12 secondsknees so Rob Schneider actually he had a small role than I remember but he actually ended up as we know coold starring with Sly again and in Judge Dread I thought for a second there we're
21:2021 minutes, 20 secondsgoing to have like a Laurel and Hardy with these two guys they're going to do like a film career together the Rob Schneider Stallone connection I don't know if both those scripts he had in
21:2921 minutes, 29 secondsboth hands and he dropped them and they got mixed up and his agent called he's like which one are we doing we can only do one he's like we're going to do it and they're like which one and he's like
21:3721 minutes, 37 secondsthe one with Rob Schneider amazing to me the one with the annoying sidekick it's amazing to me that he did these two
21:4421 minutes, 44 secondsmovies close together like that Sandra bulock I mean her character I think her performance was good the character it was funny because you think about
21:5221 minutes, 52 secondsnowadays and the access people have to researching pop culture you know they didn't know about YouTube when they made this movie because YouTube didn't exist
22:0122 minutes, 1 secondyet so like all of her references would have been exact instead of you know this secondhand information she had about how
22:0922 minutes, 9 secondsyou would say take this job and shovel it when you take it outside of the what we know about being able to research
22:1622 minutes, 16 secondspast stuff today it worked it definitely would have been a different movie without that character I love Sly but boy it seems like he's either got
22:2422 minutes, 24 secondsbackstage issues with some actors or directors or there is always like some sort of plagiarism around his films he had it with Cliffhanger well he's had
22:3322 minutes, 33 secondswith a few I can't name the top of my head but he had it again with this one yes I'm not going to say this was his fault but it always seems to be somehow
22:4022 minutes, 40 secondsTangled in the Genesis of the film so this story was proven by an independent
22:4622 minutes, 46 secondsreview of a book called I forget the it was a Hungarian book or whatever it was but it was about a terrorist and a
22:5422 minutes, 54 secondscounterterrorist this was written like 1940s or something 50s maybe at the 70s at the latest but it was a terrorist
23:0123 minutes, 1 secondcounterterrorist and they were frozen in time and released in the future and it was a utopian future and it was them
23:1023 minutes, 10 secondswith that conflict of living in a violent free future going against each other and this independent review discovered that the book was 75% similar
23:1823 minutes, 18 secondsto the movie wow but the reason why the author didn't sue or go after damages is because he knew the author actually said that it's too costly for me to go after
23:2723 minutes, 27 secondsthis big conglomerate a of a company and then he says I know exactly who took my story and that leads us to lenov one of
23:3423 minutes, 34 secondsthe writers this guy named lenov he came out of nowhere quote unquote came up with this story so do the ma the other writer um yeah one of the other writers
23:4323 minutes, 43 secondsthough I guess he he came in as a script doctor was Daniel waters who wrote Heathers put him on the map and he also
23:5023 minutes, 50 secondswrote the adaptation of The Adventures of Ford Fairlane he was a big writer for a while I would assume 90% of our listen
23:5823 minutes, 58 secondsaudience when this comes out on on our audio feed would assume 90% of them know the film so we haven't really talked about the plot I think it's almost kind of redundant but for maybe for the 10%
24:0724 minutes, 7 secondsof you who listen to our movie reviews and there are some my mom's one of them she probably hasn't seen this film so long story short it's 1996 this Los
24:1524 minutes, 15 secondsAngeles Simon Phoenix has supposedly he's taken 30 people hostage in a bus apparently he's occupying a part of Los
24:2424 minutes, 24 secondsAngeles where he kind of runs the show because he says the post office workers know that don't come here the police
24:3124 minutes, 31 secondsknow not to come here where are the passengers ah yes the passengers but their uh passengers are
24:3924 minutes, 39 secondsgone see I told the city I said look nobody comes down here Postman figured it out policemen figured it out but the
24:4824 minutes, 48 secondsgoddamn bus drivers just wouldn't listen so he's kind of like taking control of an area of Los Angeles where it's so bad it's so corrupt that even law
24:5624 minutes, 56 secondsenforcement doesn't go there then he says but the bus driver doesn't seem to know not to come here saying that's why this bus drove through his part of town
25:0425 minutes, 4 secondsso he kept them hostage but SLI character John Spartan apparently he used a thermal imaging camera to check
25:1125 minutes, 11 secondsfor bodies in the building and there was no sign of 30 bodies anywhere so he assumed that in the building those that
25:1925 minutes, 19 secondswere there because there were people there which is weird he somehow assumed that the people that were alive were people that were armed gunmen for Simon Phoenix and not the 30 hostages so he
25:2825 minutes, 28 secondswent in Full Throttle as the Demolition Man because his his style of taking down bad guys is destroying all things around
25:3625 minutes, 36 secondshim for example he saved a girl that was a hostage in a mall by destroying a $7 million mall to save a girl who had a $25,000 Ransom how can you justify
25:4525 minutes, 45 secondsdestroying a $7 million mini mall to rescue a girl whose Ransom was only $25,000 you lady good
25:5425 minutes, 54 secondsanswer so that was his nickname he's the Demolition Man cuz where he goes destruction follows but at the end of the day the greater good is served so
26:0226 minutes, 2 secondsSimon Phoenix knew that this was the style of John Spartan his arch nemesis of two years so he lures in John Spartan
26:1126 minutes, 11 secondsthe bodies unbeknownst to John Spartan have already been killed and they're in the building so when the building explodes the bodies are found and
26:2126 minutes, 21 secondseveryone just automatically assumes that these bodies were killed by the explosion damn it John I'm this
26:2826 minutes, 28 secondsDemolition Man [ __ ] you are not supposed to come down here you are not supposed to attempt the arrest of being single-handed and you are not supposed
26:3726 minutes, 37 secondsto blow anything up that's not me this time Hy he dumped the gas to rig the place BL you're right you had nothing to do with it now I know you've been trying
26:4426 minutes, 44 secondsto nail this cycle for 2 years but try remembering a little thing called official flee procedure so where are the hostage they're not here what do you
26:5226 minutes, 52 secondsmean they're not here he must have stashed some someplace hell so how do you know they weren't in there are you sure cuz I did a thermal check it was only eight of them all part of his game
27:0027 minuteswrong again hey you got something to say scumbag ke ke over here the bodies
27:0727 minutes, 7 secondseverywhere there must be 20 or 30 they're everywhere you see that Captain I told him he said he didn't care oh my
27:1527 minutes, 15 secondsGod how could you sacrifice all those innocent people little Al me spend a lot of quality time together see you sweetie
27:2327 minutes, 23 secondshoney sugar you got a lawyer you better call did he get Rudy Giuliani as his
27:3027 minutes, 30 secondslawyer no forensic evidence apparently look I've seen enough CSI shows and Doug you're a cop right so there there has
27:3927 minutes, 39 secondsyeah there it is so there has to be evidence meaning they can easily tell even after an explosion was this body
27:4627 minutes, 46 secondsdead during the explosion or before the explosion all they have to do is check every person's lungs is there Ash and stuff in the lungs from the explosion
27:5527 minutes, 55 secondsbecause there's no way not everyone was intigrated like a nuclear bomb they would have breathed in the explosion but they were all dead so none of their lungs would
28:0328 minutes, 3 secondshave had inhale of anyways so not one autopsy was done apparently forensic would would have cleared him 100% easily
28:1128 minutes, 11 secondswe don't see Sim Phoenix's testimony to too where he said I don't care I mean Simon Phoenix is a credible witness
28:1828 minutes, 18 secondsobviously yeah I yeah and speaking of John Spartan's wife it was a deleted scene but Simon Phoenix apparently
28:2528 minutes, 25 secondskilled John Spartan's wife while he was on route to so unbeknown to John Spartan at that time wasn't that what happened
28:3328 minutes, 33 secondsdid I read that wrong it's just such a terrible scene it deserved to be deleted okay so that's the setup so the setup is
28:4128 minutes, 41 secondsso so John Spartan is going to be cryogenically frozen for 70 years for
28:4828 minutes, 48 secondsputting 30 people's life in danger John Spartan you've done great Deeds for the city of Los Angeles so it is with some
28:5628 minutes, 56 secondsregret that I William Smithers acting as assistant Warden hereby carry out this sentence skip
29:0329 minutes, 3 secondsit Sergeant Spartan you've been sentenced to 70 years Subzero rehabilitation in the California cryo
29:1029 minutes, 10 secondsPenitentiary for the involuntary manslaughter of 30 innocent civilians you will be placed in cryostasis for the duration of your
29:1929 minutes, 19 secondssentence during which your behavior will be altered through synaptic suggestion you'll be eligible for parole no earlier
29:2629 minutes, 26 secondsthan the year 2046 I'm sorry sergeant and of course Simon Phoenix is going to jail for the same amount of time for putting those
29:3429 minutes, 34 secondspeople's lives in danger so they're both going to be frozen in time can we talk real quick about how cool that opening
29:4129 minutes, 41 secondsshot come over the Hollywood sign that's INF Flames sure I mean how much of the budget was just that opening scene
29:4829 minutes, 48 secondsprobably a little bit the helicop that's a huge explosion too I I think that was a building that was probably designated
29:5529 minutes, 55 secondsto be destroyed yes correct yeah that was the the demolition of that building was filmed for the movie I didn't catch it but there was word that you could
30:0430 minutes, 4 secondshear um some crew members cheering when the building was destroyed it the director the director
30:1430 minutes, 14 seconds[Music]
30:1830 minutes, 18 secondscheered was it yeah it was apparently it was Marco yeah oay oay
30:2630 minutes, 26 secondsknow that's a spicy building apparently it was an MTV winner that got to hit the uh self the oh yeah
30:3630 minutes, 36 secondsyeah press the button for the explosion it's probably a dummy Button had nothing to do had nothing to do with the explosives of course somebody else was
30:4430 minutes, 44 secondson the master switch waiting for him to push the button yeah yeah exactly but it was a cool explosion it was a it was a big explosion they basically covered the
30:5130 minutes, 51 secondswalls and everything gasoline to it so there was Flames before it went down that was huge it was impressive I will say that very impressive that's
31:0031 minuteswhat I love about those practical effects of the '90s some things don't age well but the Practical explosions are so much better than CGI explosions
31:0831 minutes, 8 secondsoh absolutely so uh Sly gets cryogenically frozen and of course he was nude for this apparently they
31:1531 minutes, 15 secondscreated some very good lifelike Frozen Sly stat you saw those when he's Frozen like a clear Carbonite like Han Solo
31:2331 minutes, 23 secondsfrozen but clear whatever that is clear gel it it was really kind of cool that liquid that they put in there do you know what kind of liquid that was in
31:3031 minutes, 30 secondsreal life that they put in there weird slimy I don't know how to explain it but it's like yeah like KY Jelly kind of yeah yeah yeah and S actually swallowed
31:3831 minutes, 38 secondsit to spit it out on the glass you see that he spits it out on the glass it's kind of a cool little effect there he said it was about 5 hours he was in that
31:4631 minutes, 46 secondsthing and he was actually he he had no problem being new but he made sure apparently he made sure that the statues were large in the junk area is what the
31:5331 minutes, 53 secondsdirector said I think that was at I think that was at Planet Hollywood I know um our friend Matt had pictures
32:0232 minutes, 2 secondsof it it was the Planet Hollywood here in in Las Vegas I've never really gone that deep into Planet Hollywood I've never eaten there I just I've eaten at
32:1132 minutes, 11 secondsthe one in Time Square in in Manhattan oh really okay cool what did you have you remember I remember the Cobra car if
32:1932 minutes, 19 secondsI know me it was probably a hamburger sure yeah I mean that's a default burger
32:2532 minutes, 25 secondsfries burger fries and a beer yeah so he's Frozen and then Simon Phoenix though he has his Pro hearing
32:3332 minutes, 33 secondswhich I which I love I love the idea that they have a PE hearing for someone who has no ability to act or show that they're ready to go back to society is
32:4132 minutes, 41 secondswhat's the point of a PRL hearing when you're cryogenically frozen you're like this for 25 35 years how do I prove that
32:4932 minutes, 49 secondsthey're supposed to be getting rehabilitated right I have to go back to the uh Warehouse scene real quick because something was knowing at me me
32:5832 minutes, 58 secondslike throughout the first five minutes of the movie and I wonder if it noed you guys when uh Simon Phoenix punches a
33:0533 minutes, 5 secondshole in the gas cans then he holds that butane torch right over the gasoline and it's like oh I'm gonna drop it I'm gonna drop it if that was gasoline just
33:1433 minutes, 14 secondsholding the flame that close above it would ignite it yeah it's the fumes that are explosive put that heat next to that
33:2133 minutes, 21 secondsflame that's your ignition not the flame but the heat from the flame so anyways yeah that would have let that close that would have gone up easily but anyways
33:2833 minutes, 28 secondsit's a movie but I know I love how he's like he's so close to it but but I've remember seeing that as a teenager of course it's just water but I
33:3633 minutes, 36 secondsI remember thinking even as a teenager when I saw that like come on dude that's really close like you're just being stupid yeah I mean as the filmmakers do a little fact checking before you pull I
33:4433 minutes, 44 secondsdon't know why they don't do that I don't know why they just don't do he just hold in the hand you can still hold it with the blowtorch we get it you're going to you might light us on fire but
33:5333 minutes, 53 secondsyou don't have to put it next to the fumes to know that we know that it can light with flame we know how gas and Flame works we understand the principle
34:0034 minutesanyways okay all right so back to the uh hearing so while they're in cryostasis or whatever the hell it's called they
34:0734 minutes, 7 secondshave these head pads that are kind of wired right into their brain and this is how they're getting rehabilitated how does it work they personality analysis
34:1634 minutes, 16 secondsand figure out like how to use their own personal strengths and knowledge and what kind of rehabilitation program to
34:2234 minutes, 22 secondsput them on so they chose knitting for John Spartan for some reason so that's how you're supposed to be rehabilitated
34:2934 minutes, 29 secondswhen your PE hearing comes up you're supposed to I guess prove that you've been rehabilitated by talking about
34:3734 minutes, 37 secondswhatever program they're wiring into your brain If Spartan had his PE hearing what does he do knit them a sweater and he gets released from prison like I don't understand what what he would have
34:4634 minutes, 46 secondssaid a few different loops and nuts and whatever I don't know well I'm ready to go back to society because I can knit a sweater and
34:5334 minutes, 53 secondsovernight thank you for the lovely gift look I don't know what you guys put into my cryo slush but when I thought out the first thing I wanted to do is
35:0135 minutes, 1 secondknit I mean how come I know with a zipper foot in a shuttle and a hook and bobin and the petty point is I can weave a throw rock right now with my eyes
35:0935 minutes, 9 secondsclosed it's part of your rehab program for each inmate the computer draws up a skill or trade which Best Suits their genetic disposition and it would implant
35:1835 minutes, 18 secondsthe knowledge and the desire to carry out whatever training was assigned I'm a seamstress oh that's just great I come
35:2635 minutes, 26 secondsout of cryo prison and I'm Betsy from and Phoenix comes out and he can access computers operate all vehicles knows the location of every damn thing in town and is three times stronger than when he
35:3435 minutes, 34 secondswent in can you get me Phoenix's reab program now sure I mean that's what we're showing that he can do but I don't understand how that proves he's ready to
35:4235 minutes, 42 secondsgo back to the society it was a cool concept the idea that over time they subliminally basically rewire the brain
35:5135 minutes, 51 secondsthat's the idea is they're they're programming the brains of yester years to make the fit of today's society which is in the future now 2036 whatever it
35:5935 minutes, 59 secondswas all Society at least in this what was it called again sang angerly or whatever this District was called it was
36:0736 minutes, 7 secondsa combination of Los Angeles San Angel you see we have become a society of peace loving and and understanding and
36:1536 minutes, 15 secondswe are quite frankly not equipped to deal with this situation there have been no deaths of unnatural causes in San Angeles in the last 16 years where the
36:2436 minutes, 24 secondsSanta Barbara Los Angeles San Diego Metroplex were merged in 201 11 you are in the center of what used to be Los Angeles that's great s Angeles yeah it's
36:3436 minutes, 34 secondskind of shown in A Clockwork Orange the way they try to rewire the the a criminal's brain I guess it's the same
36:4136 minutes, 41 secondskind of concept how the hell does Simon Phoenix get a parole hearing before John Spartan ever would well no well we know
36:4936 minutes, 49 secondshe was released on purpose by the guy that created the society that's how it was issued from above that's why he said teddy bear teddy bear was the password
36:5736 minutes, 57 secondsrelease the locks that's why the guard go how did you know the password and Simon Phoenix goes I have no idea Mr Simon
37:0537 minutes, 5 secondsPhoenix one of our first and most illustrious members allow me to welcome you to your
37:1337 minutes, 13 secondsparole hearing let's get this one over quick 29 years ago the parole system as you know
37:2137 minutes, 21 secondsit was rendered obsolete rendered OBS Federal statute 537
37:3237 minutes, 32 secondsd29 stop it do you have anything fresh to say on your behalf I thought that yeah I
37:4137 minutes, 41 secondsdo teddy bear how do you know the password to the
37:4737 minutes, 47 secondsCuffs I wish I knew zon says die and then he starts killing everybody
37:5537 minutes, 55 secondsthat's a great question but the answer is it was engineered that way it was engineered that way yes okay what was outside of this area what was the world
38:0438 minutes, 4 secondslike in China Oregon New York was this unique to this area was the rest of
38:1138 minutes, 11 secondsAmerica on board with this this was the biggest problem I had with the film a movie like The Hunger Games for example this movie was an hour and 55 minutes
38:2038 minutes, 20 secondslong by the way guys I haven't I haven't looked at the Hunger Games part one I haven't looked at the time length but I'm just using this as an example the
38:2738 minutes, 27 secondsHunger Games was about a a society in the future and we all you if you don't know about it just Google it but the Hunger Games was able to in its first
38:3438 minutes, 34 secondsmovie create a world and we understood what was happening worldwide in a very clear narrative so
38:4238 minutes, 42 secondswhat this movie was lacking in a big way was yes like you guys said just ignore everything else and just watch the events of this area and I get that kind
38:5138 minutes, 51 secondsof like Escape From New York I wanted to know what was the world like cuz he talked about like oh now I can have my perfect Society and everything like there's no explanation how this
39:0039 minutescommunity of millions were all on board to be Stepford Wife type Behavior
39:0739 minutes, 7 secondsexcellent point I was really interested in the story of how the society really got they talked about the big one in 2010 but the last murder 2010 so you're
39:1739 minutes, 17 secondsgoing to start the petition to uh do the Demolition Man prequel Demolition Man [ __ ] toe or whatever his name was it
39:2439 minutes, 24 secondswe're led to believe that [ __ ] toe I mean M Los Angeles Santa Barbara I think it was yeah yeah Santa Barbara and San Diego
39:3339 minutes, 33 secondswhich you know combined into the San Angeles place I think we're all led to believe that kto was only in charge of that District yeah there was no
39:4139 minutes, 41 secondsindication what the rest of even just the rest of California the rest of the so as I'm watching this I'm just thinking it would be impossible to reign
39:4939 minutes, 49 secondsin all of America or any country for that to be like this there's just no way you could eradicate evil now but they did it but I was interested in how they
39:5739 minutes, 57 secondskind of hinted at they said well because it's just better to not be that way that's great you give me a mar yes of course
40:0640 minutes, 6 secondsright away what's a a marro a cigarette any cigarette uh smoking is not good for you
40:1540 minutes, 15 secondsand has been deemed that anything not good for you is bad hence illegal alcohol caffeine contact sports meat are
40:2240 minutes, 22 secondsyou [ __ ] me John's party you are fin one credit for violation of the verbal morality statute what the hell is that
40:3140 minutes, 31 secondsJohn Spartan you are find one bad language chocolate gasoline uneducation toys and anything spicy abortion is also
40:3840 minutes, 38 secondsillegal but then again so it's pregnancy if you don't have a license because we know that evil or quotequote free will still existed because the scraps who
40:4640 minutes, 46 secondsweren't a part of the society they fought against it they wanted their own free will they live literally lived underground metaphorically to escape
40:5540 minutes, 55 secondsthis Stepford Wife Society it so wasn't sort of like a mind meld type of thing it was just slowly converting Society
41:0241 minutes, 2 secondsinto a crime free if you want to know how the sausage is made you're going to upset yourself you just got to go into it trusting the process I didn't think
41:1241 minutes, 12 secondsof it at the time in 93 we're kind of leaning towards this type of don't want to hurt anyone's feelings don't want to
41:1941 minutes, 19 secondsbe too mean don't want to say anything too bad don't want to express anything that's kind of off-kilter cuz they lived
41:2641 minutes, 26 secondsin a a we see at the end this Stepford Wife type of everything's just peachy
41:3341 minutes, 33 secondswith no conflict there's no identity there's no art there's nothing there's no music as you can see they didn't even create art I thought it was an
41:4141 minutes, 41 secondsinteresting commentary on just how out of pain comes art and music and movies and but they had lost all of their art
41:4941 minutes, 49 secondsthey were just living right he went deep on this movie man I like that because I feel like oh man there's a lot to say here and it's
41:5641 minutes, 56 secondsactually Could Have Been A Clockwork Orange or even a like movies like RoboCop again RoboCop explained the
42:0442 minutes, 4 secondsbreakdown of their society very well in a in a 2-hour movie it's just weird how they were unable to in this two hours where other films have done it even
42:1242 minutes, 12 secondsbefore this like RoboCop was way before this like six years dude RoboCop is is like another level of film making though
42:2042 minutes, 20 secondsI mean I know we shouldn't even be having the same discussion about RoboCop and demolition manic seriously Rob RoboCop's like a top five favorite movie
42:2842 minutes, 28 secondsfor me I mean it's it's awesome Next Level film making I'm not saying it should have been a gritty film but I think there's there could have been some sort of expose how this happened we get
42:3742 minutes, 37 secondshow it's enforced we're seeing how it's enforced and lived in but we never see or understand how it got there it's one of the interesting parts of this film
42:4542 minutes, 45 secondsbecause a lot of futuristic films like you just mentioned Robocop and even more nowadays it seems like the common theme
42:5242 minutes, 52 secondsis when you make a futuristic movie it has to be a dystopian future but this one here seems to be utopian everybody
42:5942 minutes, 59 secondsgets along they don't even swear it's Utopia until one guy that wants to rule at all he sees like a fly the ointment
43:0843 minutes, 8 secondsso he wants to have him kind of extinguished so he unleashes the most ruthless murderer of all time on him you
43:1643 minutes, 16 secondsknow this this is a glimpse at a utopian future which you don't really see much because it doesn't really make a a fun
43:2343 minutes, 23 secondsstory does it no but that that's a good point D why not just have like six of the cops put friendly in a jail cell and
43:3143 minutes, 31 secondsyour problem solved it's weird it's weird so yeah the scraps who's led by edigar friendly played by Dennis lirry
43:3943 minutes, 39 secondsin a very weird role that whole casting was just so he could do that bacon and cigar the size of Cincinnati
43:4843 minutes, 48 secondsum monologue so you think you're taking me in huh guess what not happening you
43:5443 minutes, 54 secondstell [ __ ] to he can kiss my ass yeah that's right you tell kto it's going to take an army [ __ ] to get rid of me cuz I don't give a [ __ ] I got nothing to
44:0244 minutes, 2 secondslose I don't want to rain on your parade pal but I don't know who the hell you are let alone want to take you anywhere so stay here be well and cock's an
44:1144 minutes, 11 seconds[ __ ] let's take them and dump them up top they're only down here to spy on us what do you want I guess you weren't part of the
44:1844 minutes, 18 seconds[ __ ] toe plan greed deception abuse of power that's no plan that's why everybody's down here you got that right
44:2744 minutes, 27 secondssee according to [ __ ] to's plan I'm the enemy CU I like to think I like to read I meant to freedom of speech and freedom
44:3644 minutes, 36 secondsof choice I'm the kind of guy like to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder G should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side order of gravy fries I want high
44:4344 minutes, 43 secondscholesterol I want to eat bacon and butter and buckets of cheese okay I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section I want to run through the streets naked
44:5144 minutes, 51 secondswith green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine why because I suddenly might feel the need to okay pal I've seen this did you know what it is it's a 47-year old virgin sitting around
44:5944 minutes, 59 secondsin his bige pajamas drinking a banana broccoli Shak singing I'm an Oscar Meer weener you live up top you live [ __ ] toe's way what he wants when he wants
45:0645 minutes, 6 secondshow he wants your other choice come down here maybe starve to death all right then why don't you take
45:1445 minutes, 14 secondscharge and Lead these people out of here I'm no leader I do what I have to do sometimes people come with me all I want
45:2245 minutes, 22 secondsto do is bury [ __ ] toe up to his neck and [ __ ] and let him think happy happy thoughts forever and now got bad news I think he wants to kill you it was
45:3145 minutes, 31 secondsa classic Dennis liry rant they had to rewrite Ed girl friendly part so L can fit in like his ranting that was yeah
45:3945 minutes, 39 secondsthat was like his a-hole routine a-hole was was a big thing for him that was totally his stick and it took you out of
45:4645 minutes, 46 secondsthe movie because coming too you're like oh no here it comes that's just it we're watching L being L yeah we're watching a
45:5345 minutes, 53 secondsDennis liry routine he said better Dennis L Dennis Miller you know Dennis Miller you would have gotten like just a string string of big words that nobody
46:0246 minutes, 2 secondsunderstands there's a few Comics that have the same kind of stick you know Louis black is the same way oh let's recast uh friendly with just different
46:1146 minutes, 11 secondscomedians what about Stephen Wright remember you guys remember Stephen Wright yeah but that would have Dean the
46:1746 minutes, 17 secondswhole time MIT Hedberg would been great yeah just oneliner after oneliner emo Phillips remember when they went down to
46:2646 minutes, 26 secondsthe underground John Spartan and lolina Huxley they go and Benjamin Brat's character they go down to the underground to uh confront edigar
46:3546 minutes, 35 secondsfriendly and they had a beer and a burger joint there yeah yeah we well was a rat Burger but they were up above on
46:4346 minutes, 43 secondsthe street stealing food and I'm kind of like hey you guys got a pretty good deal down here you got ratp Burgers you got beer you know and I don't know but I
46:5246 minutes, 52 secondsguess you could have stole that food and they prepare it down there I guess is I guess that's what they done so you guys notice was standing next to edar friendley during his rant I Didn't Know
47:0047 minutesJack Black oh wow yeah early early Jack Black no speaking role yeah he was standing next to Edgar friendley and he was just he did like a
47:0947 minutes, 9 secondscouple Jack Black like Smiles at Edgar friendley rant and that was it that was his big part and speaking of uh cameos
47:1647 minutes, 16 secondsthat were butchered Jesse Ventura what you think of his big part in the film if I remember correctly his role was
47:2547 minutes, 25 secondssubstantially reduced is from what I understand there was a big final fight got completely cut out you don't know what happens to any of those goons no
47:3447 minutes, 34 secondsthey just like disappear there's a fight uh yeah Salone and ventur actually filmed the fight that got cut out come on you've already had an hour two hour
47:4347 minutes, 43 secondsand 55 minutes just give us that fight even it's is for 2 minutes it's a weird thing to cut out poor Ventura was probably pissed I would have been but
47:5247 minutes, 52 secondshis name was in the credits but he literally yeah he literally had no role another deleted scene was Phoenix actually killed that the black cop that
47:5947 minutes, 59 secondswas he was the one that flew the helicopter at the beginning of the film and then he was the goes oh John Spartan I haven't seen you since yeah he was the
48:0748 minutes, 7 secondshe was the pilot of the helicopter that flew John Spartan in 1996 he was now kind of an older cop at at the station
48:1448 minutes, 14 secondsso he was killed that was a deleted scene but he was killed by Simon Phoenix another it's funny they ton down the violence in this film which is weird because the movies rated are anyways I
48:2348 minutes, 23 secondsdon't know why they didn't just keep the gore in they had more than one f word in it which makes it rated R it was like quite a bit and then the violence was
48:3148 minutes, 31 secondsjust enough to be kind of violent they should have went balls to the wall like Total Recall or any verhoven film I was
48:3848 minutes, 38 secondsjust gonna say verhoven I mean that's next level film making he's a brilliant brilliant filmmaker and I don't think many people had his sensibility when it
48:4748 minutes, 47 secondscame to if you're going to do something just do it and you know in the case of Robocop and Total Recall and even
48:5348 minutes, 53 secondsStarship Troopers do it too much like this movie is rated R we'll get to the uh simulated sex scene but there's
49:0049 minutesthere's actually multiple nudity shots though brief they're there there's cursing there's violence there's eyeballs on a pen It's oddly violent
49:0849 minutes, 8 secondswithout being violent but it's like if you're going to be R-rated well you've already got the rating Just Go With It yeah and I mean it was produced by Joel
49:1649 minutes, 16 secondsSilver so Joel Silver was completely doing those kind of movies you know violent movies I mean he produced the Lethal Weapon movies but I guess as time
49:2349 minutes, 23 secondswent on the Lethal Weapon movies even got less EXP licit in terms of the violence uh sha Malloy he sent me a link
49:3149 minutes, 31 secondsof this very review I don't know why he did that but of his Demolition Man review no of ours he he sent us the link of our
49:3949 minutes, 39 secondsepisode I don't know maybe was a mistake but thanks Sean I was going to give Sean a shout out he does the I must break this podcast podcast but he sent me the
49:4749 minutes, 47 secondslink of our actual review so I'm not sure anyways they should have gone balls to the wall with this film with the violence because the movie was already rated R why not show the violence a lot
49:5649 minutes, 56 secondsof the violence was off screen we saw a scene with Simon Phoenix mowing down like a scientist in the freezing facility he mows them down I wouldn't
50:0350 minutes, 3 secondslike I don't know I kind of would like to seeing them get I don't know you're doing it pulling out the warden's eyeball they filmed something more graphic than that I mean they they
50:1150 minutes, 11 secondsalready show them holding the eyeball on a stick why not go the extra mile I the only thing I can maybe think of is that it's not Stallone's brand and ramble
50:2150 minutes, 21 secondspart five yeah I guess you're right and ramble part four but you're right about maybe that time but it would have been
50:2850 minutes, 28 secondsagain if I was the director I would have thought that would would have made it that much more cooler is showing this utopian society it's so clean and
50:3650 minutes, 36 secondspristine and so good and then having Simon F going there just gutting people it would have been like whoa you know what I think was a really good
50:4550 minutes, 45 secondsexploration of that idea though was when Simon Phoenix is first unth thought and they cut to like the live shot of the
50:5350 minutes, 53 secondscryo chamber I think everybody in in that scene showed how appalled they were by what they were seeing they'd never
51:0051 minutesseen somebody murdered before I thought that was a really really effective scene it probably would have been a lot more effective with increased violence I
51:0951 minutes, 9 secondsreally got to commend everybody in that scene the direction of it really sort of sold the concept that this was Uncharted
51:1651 minutes, 16 secondsTerritory for them let's talk about the simulated sex scene do we have to yes we do Sly loves his sex scenes with his
51:2451 minutes, 24 secondswith his leading ladies honestly I'd rather see this this kind of sex scene than one like in the
51:3151 minutes, 31 secondsspecialist well what I loved about this is we only saw his imagery and not hers
51:3851 minutes, 38 secondsyou know yeah do we see him moaning yeah we saw him moaning
51:4851 minutes, 48 secondsoh we did see him person his lips didn't we see him person his lips don't ever do that again
51:5851 minutes, 58 secondsSly they got be all excited for party Kitty and STS review so oh
52:0352 minutes, 3 seconds[Laughter]
52:0552 minutes, 5 secondsJes somebody put a leash on this guy oh that leash scene that's a good scene from party K said
52:1352 minutes, 13 secondsokay so anyway so for for our listeners who maybe have forgotten blocked it for the memory in a kind of a fun comedic
52:2052 minutes, 20 secondsmoment Sandra bu's character says to the S character hey do you want to have sex and she says in a very matter OFA way the way you would you know would I have a cup of
52:2852 minutes, 28 secondscoffee John Spartan there is of course a well-known and documented connection between sex and violence not so much a
52:3852 minutes, 38 secondscausal effect but a general state of of neurological arousal and after having
52:4652 minutes, 46 secondsobserved your behavior this evening and my resulting condition
52:5352 minutes, 53 secondsum I was wondering if you would like to have sex with you mhm
53:0053 minuteshere now mhm oh yeah
53:0753 minutes, 7 secondsgreat I'll be right back that's a fun little play on the idea of sex you know oh it's just this is what we do we feel
53:1453 minutes, 14 secondspleasure without any kind of awkwardness so it's like okay in a weird way it's kind of forward thinking it's like yeah we can have pleasure we can feel pleasure and it's not awkward but it's
53:2353 minutes, 23 secondssomething I want to share with you so that's fine that's a kind of a forward way think of course he's thinking like a 1993 person or 96 person he's like oh okay
53:3153 minutes, 31 secondsand he starts you know checking his breath and fixing his hair while she's getting ready that's that's a good comedy you know and then she comes out
53:3853 minutes, 38 secondswith the machines puts them on the heads which is equivalent to today's VR which they didn't have VR back then but had they done that today it would have been goggles over the eyes but it was like a
53:4653 minutes, 46 secondsit was like a brain implant he puts on his head what's wrong he broke contact contact I didn't touch you yet but I I
53:5453 minutes, 54 secondsthought you wanted to make love is that what you call this first sex has been proven to produce higher orders of alpha waves during digitized transference of
54:0254 minutes, 2 secondssexual energies all right oy what do you say we just do it the oldfashioned way e disgusting you
54:0854 minutes, 8 secondsmean fluid transfer I mean boning the wild Mambo the the hunka chunka that is no longer
54:1654 minutes, 16 secondsdone the exchange of bodily fluids do you know what that leads to yeah I do kids smoking a desire to ra the fridge the rampant exchange of bodily fluids
54:2554 minutes, 25 secondswas one of the major reasons for the downfall of society after AIDS there was NRS after NRS there was ubt and one of
54:3254 minutes, 32 secondsthe first things that Dr CTO was able to do was to Outlaw and behaviorally engineer all fluid transfer out of society acceptable behavior not even not
54:4054 minutes, 40 secondseven mouth transfers condoned kissing is not allowed damn that was a good kisser oh all right what about kids procreation
54:5054 minutes, 50 secondsyeah we go to a lab fluids are purified screened and and transferred by AU authorized medical personnel only it is
54:5854 minutes, 58 secondsthe only legal way I think I've ever seen on screen or even in my psyche at the age of you know 1993 the idea of you
55:0555 minutes, 5 secondsknow sex simulation of a visual and audio simulation and the scene still to this day it's it's not like it's graphic
55:1355 minutes, 13 secondsbut it's pretty the comedy ends cuz sexy images play out it's not funny anymore now it's kind of like weirdly gross
55:2155 minutes, 21 secondsagain like Doug was say you got slide person his lips and pleasure that and then you see a naked torso of a
55:2855 minutes, 28 secondsfemale full on naked you know breasts and everything we know it's not Sandra Bullock because well it's just a fuller body than Sandra's takes off the helmet
55:3755 minutes, 37 secondsreally quick like uh it's like this is too much this is weird and she's like what's the problem and then of course the the funny sequence of like you know
55:4555 minutes, 45 secondswe kiss and where I'm from and we exchange fluids and all this stuff and they talk about procreation done through Labs you need a license for it oh it was
55:5455 minutes, 54 secondsright out of the '90s just a flashing images of her I'm glad it was a lot more toned down than we saw on the specialist
56:0256 minutes, 2 secondsit made more sense than the the seashells so he goes to his room and he turns on the TV and we get at some early
56:1256 minutes, 12 secondstechnology there's a lot of Technology will come to fru in today's time first the sex simulator as we know Oculus is
56:1956 minutes, 19 secondsworking on that stuff right now virtual sex I don't know how they're doing it but they're working on we got the audio down but I guess they're going to work
56:2856 minutes, 28 secondson things that you can attou touch and attach yeah so virtual sex is on the horizon secondly he's in his room and
56:3756 minutes, 37 secondshe's turns on the camera and somebody Zoom calls in on him but she's naked and it's the wrong number so she video calls
56:4556 minutes, 45 secondsher boyfriend oh sorry wrong number and she covers up so she's naked on camera which again is common today on people's phones so that was a little bit of a a
56:5456 minutes, 54 secondsfuture prediction that came true and they even had the um aspect ratio correct as well yeah it was
57:0157 minutes, 1 secondportrait and another future prediction that came true was the zoom call they had a zoom meeting so this in 1993 you
57:0957 minutes, 9 secondssee this meeting everyone has their own head on a screen and there's person talking to them all on screen and back in '93 when I saw this oh waa that's
57:1757 minutes, 17 secondscrazy they could have a meeting that from wherever they are virtually I didn't know if I used the word virtually that wasn't a word back then but they can do their own call from wherever
57:2557 minutes, 25 secondsthat's crazy nowadays that's absolutely Norm especially in Co now it's absolutely normal I I just like the fact that the screens turned as the speaker
57:3357 minutes, 33 secondswould would walk around the room Facebook has that portal it's like their Zoom but it's it's an actual piece of
57:4157 minutes, 41 secondshardware and that will actually follow you it'll do like voice tracking okay interesting I didn't know that speaking of covid they predicted
57:4957 minutes, 49 secondsthe germs don't touch hands you know for the high fives they did the they did the air rub so a lot of interesting things
57:5657 minutes, 56 secondsquote unquote have come to uh fruition in just through whatever let's not forget the shortage of toilet paper too
58:0458 minutes, 4 secondsthe short toilet paper yes and that was a clever scene when there was no toilet paper so he swears at the machine to get
58:1058 minutes, 10 secondsall those tickets yeah I love that look I don't know if you guys know it but you're uh you're out of toilet
58:1858 minutes, 18 secondspaper did did you say toilet paper oh they used handfuls of water
58:2658 minutes, 26 secondsotted paper back in the 20 I'm happy that you're happy but the place where you're supposed to have the
58:3358 minutes, 33 secondstoilet paper you got this little Shelf with three seashells on it he doesn't know how to use the three
58:4158 minutes, 41 seconds[Laughter]
58:4558 minutes, 45 secondsseashells I can see how that could be confusing i w believe it I'll be right back thanks a lot you
58:5458 minutes, 54 seconds[ __ ] joh for violations of the verbal morality
59:0259 minutes, 2 secondsstatute so much for the seashells see you in a few minutes I love that part do you know how
59:0959 minutes, 9 secondsthe the sea shells are used yeah somebody within the last year actually there's a little like cartoon that
59:1659 minutes, 16 secondspretty graphically shows one is for scooping another does make any sense do take two shells they're all separated
59:2459 minutes, 24 secondsthere's three of them but yeah you kind of squeeze and pinch and pull away and then
59:3359 minutes, 33 secondsyou when Sor bulock was asked about it she kind of said the way that the shells are laid out like on the ledge or
59:4059 minutes, 40 secondswhatever they look like buttons the seashells are buttons like Beday controls like the force of the stream
59:4759 minutes, 47 secondsthe size of the Stream So each seashell could be a Beday control okay instead of you pick them up and pull [ __ ] out of
59:5459 minutes, 54 secondsyour ass which is ridiculous it's stupid the way
1:00:021 hour, 2 secondsthe concept came up was the director was as his other director friend like I need an idea for your futuristic bathroom and
1:00:101 hour, 10 secondsthe other director is looking around his bathroom he goes well I got a thing of seash shells over here and the guy goes I'll make something out of that like no you don't make something out of that
1:00:181 hour, 18 secondsgive me something what you made out of that was stupid three seashells it's funny have you ever seen
1:00:251 hour, 25 secondsseashells in someone's bathroom for decoration cuz I have yes yeah I have too that's funny never use them for
1:00:321 hour, 32 secondsanything but decorations talk about when he goes to the museum Simon Phoenix goes to the museum to get weapons cuz weapons are a thing of the past now we don't
1:00:401 hour, 40 secondshave weapons anymore I love how everything's loaded why is this Museum full of ammunition I don't know just another thing of like you don't Place
1:00:481 hour, 48 secondsammunition next to weapons that's just weapon safety 101 because because the plot tells you he had a working Cannon
1:00:561 hour, 56 secondshe lit a can yeah he lit a cannon he had gunpowder for The Cannonball what did
1:01:041 hour, 1 minute, 4 secondsthat come from I love how we see the can like we see that the cannon was used and the explosion of the wall but I wanted to see the prep work I wish that scene
1:01:111 hour, 1 minute, 11 secondswas filmed him putting the ball in stuffing in the gunpowder and then like yeah yeah now Ryan I know you love how meta
1:01:201 hour, 1 minute, 20 secondsmovies can get there's a few um suggestions to it but this the museum is is like the perfect jumping off point where he calls the
1:01:281 hour, 1 minute, 28 secondsmannequin Rambo yeah excuse me Rambo I need the borus again we have in the Tangled cash
1:01:361 hour, 1 minute, 36 secondsUniverse uh we talked about this I don't know if you guys listened to this on my Creed episode which I I don't think you have which is fine but we mentioned that
1:01:441 hour, 1 minute, 44 secondsAdonis imitates The Godfather to Rocky you follow me so he does like he does
1:01:511 hour, 1 minute, 51 secondsThe Godfather voice to Rocky and Creed and that would mean that the that God father exists the movie in the Rocky
1:01:591 hour, 1 minute, 59 secondsUniverse if the Godfather exists in the Rocky Universe tiia Shire is in The Godfather films so the
1:02:081 hour, 2 minutes, 8 secondsactress that plays looks like Rocky's wife very meta yeah it's weirdly meta and then not only that Robert dairo was
1:02:151 hour, 2 minutes, 15 secondsin part two and Robert dairo was in a movie called Grudge Match and Copland with a guy who looks like
1:02:231 hour, 2 minutes, 23 secondsRocky yeah Grudge Match is is all plays meta oh that's a but yeah we talked about check out our Grudge Match episode
1:02:301 hour, 2 minutes, 30 secondsI think it's probably better than this one but with the jackiechan nod too it's lenina right who who brings up the
1:02:381 hour, 2 minutes, 38 secondsjackiechan movies yeah she learned how to fight like that because she watch Jackie Chan fil yeah yeah yeah that's right yeah so jackiechan exists in this
1:02:461 hour, 2 minutes, 46 secondsuniverse anyway where the hell did you learn to kick like that oh um Jackie Chan movies yes Jackie Chan happen happened
1:02:541 hour, 2 minutes, 54 secondsto be a friend of ston at the time yes the the Schwarzenegger thing can we talk about that real quick so again Schwarzenegger was an actor who played
1:03:021 hour, 3 minutes, 2 secondsin The Expendables who played a it doesn't work you can't you have too many like goes round and around yeah I've been an Enthusiast of your
1:03:111 hour, 3 minutes, 11 secondsescapades for quite some time now I have in fact perued some news reals from the Schwarzenegger library and that time that you took that car hold
1:03:191 hour, 3 minutes, 19 secondsit the Schwarzenegger Library yes the schwarzeneger Presidential Library wasn't he an actor when you stop he was
1:03:271 hour, 3 minutes, 27 secondsPresident yes even though he was not born in this country his popularity at the time caused the 61st Amendment which states that I don't want to know
1:03:351 hour, 3 minutes, 35 secondspresident at this time they hated each other well they were extremely competitive yes yeah yeah right you know
1:03:441 hour, 3 minutes, 44 secondsthey Rivals they were Rivals I don't think there was yeah I would hate Arnold Schwarzenegger If he if he troll me into taking stoper my mom shoot I would hate
1:03:531 hour, 3 minutes, 53 secondsthat that's fair about the 61 Amendment where it it allowed Schwarzenegger to become president when he became governor
1:04:001 hour, 4 minutesof California they they pushed an amendment to allow him to run for president called the Arnold Amendment
1:04:071 hour, 4 minutes, 7 secondsyeah crazy I freaking love this stuff it's so weird but lenina makes a comment
1:04:131 hour, 4 minutes, 13 secondsabout Spartan's quippy oneliner outside the Taco Bell after he beats up the scraps guy oh man I didn't even write it down do you not know what I'm talking
1:04:221 hour, 4 minutes, 22 secondsabout oh uh she said the joy joy you know something that you said to him before you damn it I'll insert it don't worry
1:04:311 hour, 4 minutes, 31 secondsabout it you'll be saved by my editing yeah please do please do what the hell the re this abandonment looks like
1:04:391 hour, 4 minutes, 39 secondsthere's a new Shepherd in town that sheriff you are even better live than on laser dis and the joy jooy way you paused to make a GLI witticism before
1:04:481 hour, 4 minutes, 48 secondsdoing battle with that strangely weapon scra in those roundhouse P Hy look this isn't the wild west okay the wild west wasn't even the Wild West hurting
1:04:561 hour, 4 minutes, 56 secondspeople's not a good thing sometimes it is but not what it's a bunch of people looking for something to eat another little funny line here is
1:05:031 hour, 5 minutes, 3 secondss bu's character to Sly said for a 74y old you're not that bad and funny enough
1:05:101 hour, 5 minutes, 10 secondshow old is he now he's 74 right now I'm 74 talk about meta right that really threw me off I was like holy crap that is Sly right now 74 and he's doing a
1:05:181 hour, 5 minutes, 18 secondsmovie right now an action movie called Samaritan so it'll be interesting to see how he moves for a 74y old guy I remember seeing this movie as a teenager
1:05:251 hour, 5 minutes, 25 secondsnow and the idea if you were to tell me other going you know you'll see Sly in the future Ryan in 2020 or
1:05:331 hour, 5 minutes, 33 seconds2021 in a movie called Samaritan when he's 74 years old I would have been like what I couldn't imagine a 74y old Sly but it's weird here we are did you catch
1:05:421 hour, 5 minutes, 42 secondsPhoenix making mocking the Chinese in the Museum information conc yeah I'm
1:05:501 hour, 5 minutes, 50 secondssurprised the score didn't do like a little like I guarantee you Wesley Snipes adlib that that wasn't in the
1:05:591 hour, 5 minutes, 59 secondsscript because he did a lot of AD libbing and he with his Spanish speaking too when he did that Spanish speaking that was ad as well that wasn't in the script you couldn't film that today it's
1:06:081 hour, 6 minutes, 8 secondsalways fun to watch movies from the past just see would that fly today and no they would not have allowed a a racist ad lib to stay in a film today did you
1:06:171 hour, 6 minutes, 17 secondscatch his Ghostbuster ray gun at the end there Simon Phoenix had that great laser gun did you arbitrarily shot out lasers
1:06:241 hour, 6 minutes, 24 secondsand then he hits it against the wall and the lasers came out stronger I called it the Ghostbuster ray gun was that the one that he uh picked up in the museum no it
1:06:341 hour, 6 minutes, 34 secondsseemed to be something from the facility it was like he used it as a weapon it was like shooting electricity oh oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah was cutting things in
1:06:421 hour, 6 minutes, 42 secondshalf and there's a very very terrible scene of John Spartan jumping away from it it was so horribly shot he only does
1:06:521 hour, 6 minutes, 52 secondslike the bottom third of the screen goes he does like a really lame leap you just know there's a big soft mattress underneath of it do you know the leap
1:07:011 hour, 7 minutes, 1 secondI'm talking about when he's leaping away from that laser gun it's the corniest jump away from explosion I've ever seen I know we sounds like we red on this
1:07:091 hour, 7 minutes, 9 secondsmovie a lot I think in some ways it hasn't aged well just because this is why I love about Western westerns age
1:07:161 hour, 7 minutes, 16 secondswell because there's no CGI there's no special effects it's horses the natural land and barns you can watch high noon
1:07:241 hour, 7 minutes, 24 secondstoday and enjoy it there's nothing that really ages as far as the Aesthetics of a of a western film right so the problem
1:07:321 hour, 7 minutes, 32 secondswhen you do a futuristic film like Demolition Man we're only uh 16 years away from the future that was depicted
1:07:391 hour, 7 minutes, 39 secondsin this film first of all it's interesting that the movie came out in what 93 yeah they set that terrible
1:07:471 hour, 7 minutes, 47 secondsversion of Los Angeles in 1996 why not just transpose the whole thing start it 50 years from now right
1:07:541 hour, 7 minutes, 54 secondsand then have it take place in you know the late 2000s or you know the later part of this Century it is interesting when they make
1:08:021 hour, 8 minutes, 2 secondsfilms in the future I mean Blade Runner just did it again 2049 I mean that's only 28 years from now or don't give the date you don't have to give the date
1:08:101 hour, 8 minutes, 10 secondsthat's a good point it's sometime in the future and some movies have done that sometime in the future and they not so distant future as they yeah yeah yeah
1:08:181 hour, 8 minutes, 18 secondsand that's what makes Star Wars good it's to being Star Wars it's a long time ago and a galaxy far away you just completely take out you can't you can't compare it to our universe the final
1:08:261 hour, 8 minutes, 26 secondsnotes I had was about Simon Phoenix's death first of all a cool death scene him getting Frozen and then getting his
1:08:331 hour, 8 minutes, 33 secondshead kicked off cryogenic was introduced in the beginning of the film you knew it was going to come into play at some point I forget the context he said it
1:08:411 hour, 8 minutes, 41 secondsbut Simon Phoenix said that he'd lose his head if it wasn't attached to his shoulders that was definitely that was definitely a call back yeah and Spartan
1:08:491 hour, 8 minutes, 49 secondssays I'll keep that in mind yeah yeah yeah yeah I swear I lose my head if it wasn't
1:08:571 hour, 8 minutes, 57 secondsattached I'll keep that in mind the other funny thing is what was
1:09:041 hour, 9 minutes, 4 secondsSpartan's plan was he just I mean he looks up and sees that thing spinning around and grabs it but prior to that was he just like I'm gonna sacrifice
1:09:131 hour, 9 minutes, 13 secondsmyself to to get Phoenix I don't know yeah he wasn't telegraphing it because he looks up and sees it and he's like oh
1:09:201 hour, 9 minutes, 20 secondsI can grab this that was just to get his feet off the ground right oh that's right that's right CU I guess that thing freezes outward and and once it reaches
1:09:291 hour, 9 minutes, 29 secondsthe end of what it's frozen you can go back on it again it won't freeze you I'm going to have to check the science on this I'll get back to
1:09:361 hour, 9 minutes, 36 secondsyou it was a cool Destin it was cool the head being popped off and exploded on the ground do it remind me hair freeze why did it I didn't it it didn't it
1:09:461 hour, 9 minutes, 46 secondsfreeze well it was no it was like the blonde hair was on top of the Frozen that's his calling card you
1:09:541 hour, 9 minutes, 54 secondsfreeze that was nobody would know it's him if he didn't have the hair that's the kind of stupid I a Hollywood
1:10:011 hour, 10 minutes, 1 secondexecutive giving after he comes out of the bathroom after taking like two bumps I think it would have been hilarious had the hair stay like the head explodes on
1:10:101 hour, 10 minutes, 10 secondsthe ground but the hair piece still stays like a legal hairpiece bounce it
1:10:181 hour, 10 minutes, 18 secondsaround okay uh okay well there was talk of a sequel and a prequel and the
1:10:251 hour, 10 minutes, 25 secondsprequel was going to be John Spartan and Simon Phoenix that 2-year war that they had with each other there was a sequel
1:10:331 hour, 10 minutes, 33 secondstalk but they but the executives smartly decided that was going to bomb so they didn't do that but there was talk of a sequel and apparently as of late as May
1:10:421 hour, 10 minutes, 42 seconds2020 Sly is hinted at a Demolition Man 2 no it's all talk Let It Go the streaming
1:10:491 hour, 10 minutes, 49 secondsZombie Squad we were going to get we should do a whole episode we should do a whole episode of Sly teases
1:10:571 hour, 10 minutes, 57 secondsall the things he's teased and never falls falls through with just today I saw somebody linked to Stallone saying
1:11:051 hour, 11 minutes, 5 secondsthe only thing that would make sense for Rambo moving forward would be a prequel a streaming only prequel who needs
1:11:121 hour, 11 minutes, 12 secondsit Matt I mean like seriously who who needs it you get a hundred movies and
1:11:181 hour, 11 minutes, 18 secondsshows like that available to you especially with Rambo like everything you need about that character is
1:11:261 hour, 11 minutes, 26 secondsexplaining in First Blood yeah John J the prequels are always so effing heavy-handed that you'd have like Rambo
1:11:331 hour, 11 minutes, 33 secondswould say you drew first blood don't push me man like it would just be a rehash of all the [ __ ] we saw in first blood but it would be like oh this is
1:11:411 hour, 11 minutes, 41 secondsthe prequel so Isn't that cool yeah I know at least the zombies sounded kind of neat there's a lot of different
1:11:481 hour, 11 minutes, 48 secondsdirections you can go with that yeah prequels you kind of write yourself into a you only have so much lead time till you get into to what where we know the
1:11:561 hour, 11 minutes, 56 secondscharacter when it starts they have to land on the position of the starting position like they have to get there so Sly we love him but he is the king he is
1:12:031 hour, 12 minutes, 3 secondsthe king of teas and hype Andia I think he just loves to create I think I I think his mind is always oh it be great if I could do this he's the guy
1:12:121 hour, 12 minutes, 12 secondsthat if they had a serum that keeps you 35 forever he would take it in a heartbe if you told Sly look I'll give you a
1:12:181 hour, 12 minutes, 18 secondsserum that makes you 35 forever but somebody you don't know dies he would take it
1:12:291 hour, 12 minutes, 29 secondsoh that's hilarious oh man all right well any closing thoughts there we never got a sequel we never got a prequel I love
1:12:361 hour, 12 minutes, 36 secondsthis movie unabashedly I always have one one of the things that bugged me the most was the no resolution on his wife
1:12:451 hour, 12 minutes, 45 secondsand if you're GNA put his have a resolution on his daughter thing cut out the love [ __ ] between him and lenina you don't need it I don't know why these
1:12:531 hour, 12 minutes, 53 secondsmovies have to especially during this time I did uh the last episode I did with sea Malloy on I'm Miss bre this
1:13:001 hour, 13 minutespodcast they shoehorned a Dolph lren Love Story into a movie that didn't freaking need it whatsoever you don't
1:13:071 hour, 13 minutes, 7 secondsthink that was Dolph being like hey I want to kiss somebody other than my wife probably it probably was but she naked
1:13:141 hour, 13 minutes, 14 secondsbut no no but she was hot very well movies like this don't need it you don't need a forc love story they were great
1:13:221 hour, 13 minutes, 22 secondsas you know a Martin Rigs and there's no chemistry it was where when they kiss at the end it was gross yeah yeah yeah like you
1:13:311 hour, 13 minutes, 31 secondshave a buddy cop movie without the two cops hooking up yeah true so that's my only my gripe aside from the how did LA
1:13:381 hour, 13 minutes, 38 secondsget to be what it was in that that moment you throw out everything in the movie it's a great
1:13:451 hour, 13 minutes, 45 secondswatch this is the perfect example of a leave your brain at the door movie yeah they don't need a formula to stick to I
1:13:541 hour, 13 minutes, 54 secondsenjoyed it too I I will say it was not a boring watch it was reminiscent of my youth I enjoyed it look I knew going in I was going to have fun so I think that's probably I went a little bit more
1:14:021 hour, 14 minutes, 2 secondscritical cuz it would have been just too easy say oh it's a fun silly action we all know it is I get it I guess there's that the little part of me the the more
1:14:101 hour, 14 minutes, 10 secondsmature movie Watcher that I am today I was like there's so much once I went down that rabbit hole is why is the society like this and who else is like
1:14:181 hour, 14 minutes, 18 secondsthis and I just it was hard to escape that so every scene that happened it seemed irrelevant to the big picture of what's going on on this planet like how
1:14:261 hour, 14 minutes, 26 secondsdo these guys get away with this Society why is it like this do they have carp launch with America like it it's the perfect example of a leave your brain at
1:14:341 hour, 14 minutes, 34 secondsthe door type of movie this was Keek Stallone the one two three punch that you get with Cliffhanger Demolition Man
1:14:431 hour, 14 minutes, 43 secondsand the specialist you know this was the height of his earning power the peak of his physicality probably even though he
1:14:511 hour, 14 minutes, 51 secondswas close to 50 this is the top of the mountain for him I mean after this this it starts to you know I mean you still get some gems like daylight and stuff
1:15:001 hour, 15 minuteslike that but I mean after this you know this is the Glory Days that you talk about all right well as always guys this is a pleasure let's close out with us
1:15:081 hour, 15 minutes, 8 secondsagain seeing where we're from I'm Ryan host of Going the Distance the rocky series and Creed podcast on the Stalone podcast Network feed yeah we're handling
1:15:161 hour, 15 minutes, 16 secondsCreed part one right now we're almost halfway through if not over halfway through now Doug exciting news you're starting Rocky too yeah if you guys are
1:15:241 hour, 15 minutes, 24 secondsup on the relisten on the Sylvester stom fan podcast Network I just started releasing uh season two we got our
1:15:311 hour, 15 minutes, 31 secondscoverage of Rocky 2 coming at you as we speak we're making our way through that and you know we got a bunch of episodes ready to go for Rocky 3 gotta keep
1:15:391 hour, 15 minutes, 39 secondsplugging away at those I got to reach out to Jay and start scheduling some recording sessions Ryan you're close man you're close I forget what scene am I
1:15:471 hour, 15 minutes, 47 secondsdoing again I for is it Mickey's death yeah you're doing the Mickey death scene wow I don't even remember what scenes I did I mean so
1:15:561 hour, 15 minutes, 56 secondslong Ian I mean seriously that was like a year probably it's probably I think I was still in my apartment when we
1:16:031 hour, 16 minutes, 3 secondsrecorded that wow yep it's okay you got the xlx watch SC by the way oh oh yeah
1:16:101 hour, 16 minutes, 10 secondsokay yeah yeah that's why I recorded so long ago with you I got the early scenes yeah I think I requested that didn't I yeah you did you wanted the pinball and
1:16:181 hour, 16 minutes, 18 secondsthe xlax watch I mean who would I just want to say Doug those aren't being released in vain there are people watching listening to it so I've got
1:16:261 hour, 16 minutes, 26 secondsword from people that uh I know personally that are listening they didn't listen before so because it's on the feed they're listening I know Katie
1:16:331 hour, 16 minutes, 33 secondsyeah I know Katie I'm listening to your Creed episodes by the way and it's D noted it was at this moment that we had
1:16:411 hour, 16 minutes, 41 secondsmy computer shut down I rejoined the in the middle of their conversation and uh so that's why it's so oddly jumped
1:16:501 hour, 16 minutes, 50 secondsaround here all right back to the show look we had no watching anyway no it's weird we didn't which is weird cuz
1:16:571 hour, 16 minutes, 57 secondssometimes we do get a lot of people or at least a handful but that's okay doesn't matter it'll all be fixed and post edit I have the audio it's all good
1:17:061 hour, 17 minutes, 6 secondsuh I'm just saying I think there might have been something go I think my computer might have been having a hard time running Discord and stream it to YouTube so what I'll do is just just
1:17:141 hour, 17 minutes, 14 secondsrecord it and if it Con out it's just us recording we just I just tag uh tag the video together it's not an issue okay
1:17:201 hour, 17 minutes, 20 secondstake two Craig was saying that he was uh in Rocky minute with Doug and then I started saying so for our listeners the
1:17:281 hour, 17 minutes, 28 secondscomputer shut down if you see on YouTube you'll see that it's shut down we're just going to continue audio only here for the iTunes release Doug mentioned
1:17:361 hour, 17 minutes, 36 secondsthat he does listen to uh the Creed episodes which surprises me that he does and he was about to tear me a new one because I know what he's about to say so
1:17:441 hour, 17 minutes, 44 secondsDoug go ahead and say what you're about to say I missed it but uh you're just starting to laid in to me so go ahead and tell me yeah it's very much on
1:17:521 hour, 17 minutes, 52 secondsrecord duy noted you find that uh you want more of me and Jay guests duly
1:17:591 hour, 17 minutes, 59 secondsnoted yeah so I said that no and I was wondering when you're going to hear that I like either Doug listens 10 years yeah
1:18:061 hour, 18 minutes, 6 secondssaid 10 years or no Doug will hear this you took it in the spirit which was given I hope yeah of course of course and and I I mean we've talked about it
1:18:141 hour, 18 minutes, 14 secondsyou know a few times before and I understand but I also said after you kind of ConEd out was I want to get more
1:18:221 hour, 18 minutes, 22 secondspeople that actually know the movie that know the film know the franchise boxing and instead of just other like minute
1:18:291 hour, 18 minutes, 29 secondsby- minute hosts there's some of that early on but I'm kind of moving moving forward you know in a New Direction with
1:18:351 hour, 18 minutes, 35 secondsthat as guess wise so we'll get more intelligent discussion going forward what a slap in the face U to our all our
1:18:431 hour, 18 minutes, 43 secondspast guests you know wow I don't know what to tell you I don't think past guests that aren't Rocky fans are listening to this feed so I wouldn't worry about it true true Craig why don't
1:18:521 hour, 18 minutes, 52 secondsyou plug your show in your other podcast and I'm sorry it coed out during that as we talked about at the beginning of the show um hitting this very feed in the
1:19:001 hour, 19 minutesnext couple weeks although this isn't live so at this point it's it's useless hitting this feed so when you're done listening to this go check for the 5th
1:19:091 hour, 19 minutes, 9 secondsand 30th anniversaries of Rocky four and Rocky five I also mentioned Ryan that um sort of fitting with the rocky minute on
1:19:161 hour, 19 minutes, 16 secondsMonday Wednesday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Going the Distance on Saturdays and then Sly cast on Sunday I'll probably start upad loading to this
1:19:251 hour, 19 minutes, 25 secondsuh classic from the archive Sly casts for people that um want to listen to everything on this feed or haven't
1:19:321 hour, 19 minutes, 32 secondslisten to The Sly cast before um we'll talk about that and then also my I have another podcast that's once a month it's the first Friday of every month I'm
1:19:411 hour, 19 minutes, 41 secondslooking forward to having you and Doug on individually it's conversations at Jack Rabbit Slims and it's my Pulp Fiction podcast where every month I talk
1:19:491 hour, 19 minutes, 49 secondsto a different fan of the movie and so far everybody I've talked to is been a podcaster so it kind of has served two
1:19:571 hour, 19 minutes, 57 secondspurposes where I get to uh talk with another fan of the movie but I also help somebody promote their podcast if you go into your favorite podcaster and just
1:20:061 hour, 20 minutes, 6 secondssearch conversations at Jackrabbit Slims you can find that I think episode six was November's episode so U I need to
1:20:151 hour, 20 minutes, 15 secondsget on that over the Christmas holidays at the very least I got a busy few weeks ahead of me but come mid December I'll be free for like a month and a half so I'm going to get on your show cuz I want
1:20:231 hour, 20 minutes, 23 secondsto talk Paul awesome likewise all right guys thank you I apologize again for the technical difficulties but for our audio
1:20:311 hour, 20 minutes, 31 secondslisteners it'll be there'll be none the why well they'll know something happened because of the flow of the conversation but uh if you happen to catch this on YouTube actually went to the end of it I
1:20:391 hour, 20 minutes, 39 secondsapologize but I don't think that's gonna be an issue for a lot of people so all right guys thank you so much cool take care guys pleasure fellas love you guys
1:20:471 hour, 20 minutes, 47 secondsyou too love you guys we're hanging up right I'm hanging up all right I know bye right bye bye have a good one guys you too bye but