Gen. McInerney Issues URGENT Warning: France Riots are Blueprint for US

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Seth Holehouse: 01:33

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So there is some very serious stuff happening in Europe right now. And I'm gonna be diving into a lot of this with today's guest, Earl McInerney. But to give you a little bit of background before we jump into that, so basically what happened in France is there is a 17 year old Algerian, kid that was killed by the police.

Seth Holehouse: 02:01

And so that then sparked massive massive riots across France. Right? Sounds like the playbook they've used here in America multiple times, whether it's George Floyd or many others. But these aren't just riots where you've got, you know, angry people tipping over cars or, you know, the occasional fire. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 02:22

What's happening over there, it seems like almost as if a war is breaking out. You're seeing there's videos coming out of immigrants with literally belt fed machine guns walking on the streets in France with fully automatic weapons. There's car bombs going off. There's massive buildings on fire. I mean, really does.

Seth Holehouse: 02:42

It makes the the riots that we've seen here of recent times in America, it makes them look like almost recess in a kindergarten compared to what's happening over there. And actually, I'll pull up a video for you as I continue to talk. There's no sound in here because it's just, you know, just noises of explosions. So if you're watching on the screen, this is just a compilation of the footage that's coming out of France. And you can see there's massive buildings being burned down.

Seth Holehouse: 03:11

There's cars exploding, huge fires. There's, you know, fully automatic weapons that are going off, just mass mayhem. And there's also a lot of reports that similar riots are now spreading into other parts of Europe. And so there's, you know, again, lots of information coming out that this is this is spreading. Like and so as much as maybe the mainstream media is saying, hey, it's been, you know, quieting down.

Seth Holehouse: 03:39

The police have gotten things under control. You know, they've had to bring out, I think, 45,000 police in France. Also, Macron has come out recently and said they're actually shutting down a lot of the social media. So we're seeing that they're now, you know, doing somewhat of an Internet and social media blackout, which is probably a few things they say it's to prevent this from spreading further. But I also think that a bigger part of it is that they're trying to block a lot of what's happening from getting out of the country.

Seth Holehouse: 04:12

And so when you see that, when you see these kinds of riots happening and you see that there's social media, internet blackouts, it's it's very, very concerning. And so but if you look at what's happening fundamentally, you know, I'm sure you've been following, you know, following Europe and you see that they've really in a lot of these countries, France, Sweden, Germany, they've opened their borders to a lot of the African migrants, African, Middle Eastern migrants. So you've had different cultures, you've had a lot of Muslim cultures, you've had a lot of other cultures very different than the traditional European cultures that are flooding in. We're and we've seen over there in Europe a massive spike in race sorry, in rape, in knife attacks and robberies. You know, folks that I know are over there saying, look, like they can't walk on the streets.

Seth Holehouse: 04:59

They can't take their friends and family to certain areas at different times because it's just gotten really, really bad. And so if you look at what's happening there, and this is what I'll be talking about today with General McInerney, The the big question is that, is this a blueprint? Is this the game plan for what's gonna happen here in America? Because as we're entering into 2024, we see that it's it's like clockwork in modern America, that every time we enter into the year of a presidential election, we see riots, we see COVID, we see lockdowns. There's all kinds of significant changes that happen to our society because all under the guise of all these things happening, that's what then allows them to slip in their methods for stealing the elections.

Seth Holehouse: 05:47

Because as we can see right now with the political persecution of President Donald Trump, they will do anything to keep him out of office. And so as we look we look at what's happening with the border with over 6,000,000 people coming in, a lot of them being Chinese, mainland Chinese, fighting aged men, the concern is that as we enter into 2024, that we're gonna see an activation of what you would refer to as a fifth column, right? That you're gonna see an activation of these people. And, you know, it's like, will it will it make the George Floyd riots or the Charlottesville or, you know, whatever, will it make those riots look like a just a preview for what's to come? And so anyway, I like, this is gonna be it's a little more of a dire warning, I guess you would say from General McInerney.

Seth Holehouse: 06:39

But I think it's we have to be really honest about what could be coming and just do whatever we can possible to prepare for that. And I think the most important way that we can prepare is just psychologically and mentally understand that, okay, this is but a potential, right? You know, if we keep our heads buried in the sand, that's not gonna get us anywhere. And so before we could jump into the show though, folks, make sure you're following me on social media at Man in America. You can also find me on Rumble, of course, which is my main place.

Seth Holehouse: 07:07

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Seth Holehouse: 08:31

Thank you so much for taking time to be with us today.

Speaker 2: 08:36

Seth, it's my honor and happy fourth of July.

Seth Holehouse: 08:39

Yes, happy fourth of July to you an important time to reflect. There's a lot to reflect on. And so something that I wanted to, you know, kind of jump into, because I think it does relate a lot to America is this situation that we see unfolding in France and spilling over into other countries in Europe. And so I'll I'll pull up a few different websites to kind of frame the discussion. So this is, you know, from Gateway Pundit talking.

Seth Holehouse: 09:06

Saying after six days of rioting and 700 injured cops, patriots take the streets in France. So basically, in summary, what happened in France is there was a killing of a 17 year old in Paris by the police. He was Algerian. So he was I'm assuming he was an immigrant. And similar to the George Floyd riots here, that triggered massive, massive, you know, protests.

Seth Holehouse: 09:32

In the Gateway Pundit, they actually detail I scroll on here really quickly. And they're saying that so after five nights of riots, the ministry the Ministry of the Interior recorded about 5,000 vehicles burned, nearly a thousand buildings damaged, two fifty attacks on police stations, and more than 700 police officers injured with over 3,000 arrests. And then here's just a just a video showing, you know, and I apologize for those that are listening, but this is just some random videos of of what's happening across France. And so, General McInerney, when you see this happening, when you see that from what I'm hearing from the reports of the more alternative media that I'm following that this is primarily immigrant driven. It's all the Africans and Muslims that have come in.

Seth Holehouse: 10:26

We know that Europe has had extremely open borders, especially, you know, for immigrants coming out of Africa and North Africa. What do you see? How do you make sense of what's happening right now over in France?

Speaker 2: 10:40

Well, I think it's the same game plan, Seth, that, you're going to see in 02/2024 with the, over 6,000,000 to date immigrants, elite immigrants that have come in, in addition to our issues that actually happened back in, remember, before the two thousand twenty election, two thousand nineteen, and what went on in Minneapolis, what went on in Portland, what is going on now in Los Angeles, New York City, the homelessness in that. It is building, and, it will be, I believe, executed, initiated by the same group of people created the hoax, impeach president Trump twice, that have done all the other things. And so I'm looking at our current president who was illegally elected and who the day he was elected, the first time in history gave up energy independence. And if you go back to biblical times, no nation has voluntarily given up their energy independence, and here we have done that in The United States. That was followed up by a deliberate surrender in Afghanistan.

Speaker 2: 12:08

That was followed not even followed up by the open borders right away, which we're talking about, but the open borders and the riots going on in Europe, is just a signal of what's going to happen in 02/2024 by the same people who are doing this that I'm mentioning. Let's talk about the critical race theory, a Marxist ideology that is taught in the Department of Defense itself, which is in K through 12, which is in our colleges, that skin color determines your capabilities, and it was just struck down by the Supreme Court last week. And so all these things are integrated and part of their plan, because what I just mentioned to you and let me throw out some of the other ones. The inflation that we had got up to eight to 10% at a time. The lawlessness going on in cities today, and I'm weaving a lot of things for you, but but they're all related to the unrestricted warfare that was promulgated by general Hao Tian, the equivalent of the their chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff in 02/2005, how China would get global domination without using kinetic means by using massive biological and massive cyber.

Speaker 2: 13:46

Now the COVID nineteen was not an accident. Now I'm telling you, it was deliberately done by the Chinese Communist Party, done globally, and they should be made to pay for it.

Seth Holehouse: 14:00

Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. As you can see in this playbook that they're using in Europe right now, that the game plan fundamentally is to create social chaos to completely disrupt our way of life, which again allows them to come in and bring in their globalist one world, new directives to try to help control the chaos that they actually created. And the less prepared we are for that chaos, the more susceptible we are to being controlled by these globalists and by the communists. And so one of the biggest things that they're they're trying to attack is our food supply.

Seth Holehouse: 14:37

And even looking at these images, these pictures of France, if America in 2024 enters into a period of time where we have these types of disruptions, which potentially could last months, I mean, this is this is their endgame. One of the questions I have is what does your food supply look like? And look, you know, I've talked about food, you know, and preparedness, you know, quite a lot. And this is solely about trying to help you so that if this happens that you've got what it takes to look after your family, make sure you've got food. And so just do a quick audit, ask yourself that look, if tomorrow massive riots broke out or there's a cyber shutdown or whatever it is, and you can't go out and buy food, how long would you be able to feed your family?

Seth Holehouse: 15:19

Because they're gonna they're look, I'm not gonna say I guarantee this, but everything points to the fact that they want to do this because then what happens is that people will be forced into their system, they're forced into their bread lines, forced into their digital ID programs in order to get food. So that's why having a large amount of food, and I'm talking at least one, two, three, four months per person is really one of the best things that you can do to protect yourself and your family, and ultimately our country because we have to stay strong and stay fed amidst these difficult times. And so if you're looking for ways to sit, look, there's a lot of these storeable food companies. I've vetted a lot of them. I bought a lot of their food, but there's only one company I'm actually confident recommending and that's Heaven's Harvest.

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Speaker 2: 16:59

It was a massive biological attack. It's now becoming more and more evident. It was done deliberately out of the Wuhan, Virology Lab Number Four. The US helped fund it, Fauci, and CDC was funding it through North Carolina University, and all these things. We were complicit in the guidance where we had the mandatory vaccination.

Speaker 2: 17:28

All we needed was hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin. I took hydroxychloroquine in my four tours in Vietnam, every one pill a week. That was to prevent malaria, but it is a wonderful prophylactic against COVID-nineteen. Yet look at the trillions of dollars we spent. This was planned, Zach, and all these things are related, and that's why when you talk about what's going on in France right now, the lawlessness created by open borders, created by the tender wood that is being spread in The US.

Speaker 2: 18:11

A nation without borders is not a nation. Why has Barack oh, or it's Freudian. Why has Joe Biden had open borders? It's insane. They're all in violation of our constitution, and all those acts I mentioned to you violate our constitution.

Speaker 2: 18:34

So why do we have an administration to include this election, which I mentioned, with the use of COVID nineteen, and I think most people have seen 2,000 mules, in which these mules were collecting mail in ballots and stuffing them in the mailboxes, and that's where we have Pennsylvania, the state, had more ballots, more votes, 200,000 more than voters in the states. How many of the other six battleground states had that? And even outside the battleground states. We know, and I know because I was never read into it, but HAMR Scorecard, the special access program that General Jim Clapper and John Brennan, three weeks after they came in office, they've been briefed on it, they moved to a separate out of Nevada, a separate location in Maryland, Fort Washington, and started listening to Americans. The CIA is not authorized to listen to Americans.

Speaker 2: 19:53

You have to have a legal law permit and so this was unknown. And then I didn't find out till the inventor of it, Dennis Montgomery, became a whistleblower in 02/2015, which I've mentioned here, and then that I went on the air, etcetera. But when on the air the day before the election, Steve Bannon show, it announced it was going to be used in a February, and lo and behold, it was. It was actually used in 02/2016, but let me just say through divine providence, it was stymied. That's why Trump won.

Speaker 2: 20:43

So all these things are related, from the Russian hoax coming down the elevator saying that Trump had those two impeachments that were created out of whole cloth, and and what he's got going on against him right now. The president of The United States had a a raid on his residence at Mar A Lago where he was storing his memorabilia and records from his four years as president, and lo and behold, the first time in our history, Seth, the FBI went in unannounced and would not let Trump's lawyers in, so we don't know what they took out, what they stuffed, but this I do know. They are using the Espionage Act for many of those 37 counts. Seth, the Espionage Act was voted on in 02/2017 in World War one against those people committing espionage. It means you've gotta make a case that president Trump was committing espionage, and and no one has made that case yet.

Speaker 2: 22:07

And in fact, the president's presidential records act is what applies to the president. That's the act that apply applies, and none of the accounts that they're talking about are classified, etcetera, to this case. Now it's gonna go to court and all that, but you can see how they have overbooked. They've gotten over the tips of their skis and what they're doing afraid. And there we go to Hunter Biden's laptop, and now we're seeing the millions of dollars that Joe Biden, our current president, got from China, from the Ukraine, and from others.

Speaker 2: 22:52

He was bribed in direct violation of the constitution. All of this is related. You started out asking me a question about France and what's going on as we speak, as the Paris Air Show is starting this weekend. Matter of fact, yesterday day before yesterday, it started. I used to go to them all the time.

Speaker 2: 23:21

But see how that is stretched. We have a global problem, and it's the World Economic Forum, George Soros and others that are doing this, that have combined with the Chinese Communist Party, and they've gotten together. Hammering Scorecard, which I mentioned, is now owned, part of it. CIA is still using it. I believe it's still a black program.

Speaker 2: 23:49

I was never read into it. I've gotten everything I know about it from public sources, but in Brazil, for instance, Bolsonaro lost, but he Lulu stole 5,188,344 votes from Bolsonaro, and Brazil was our last democracy in South America. Barack Hussein Obama, remember, gave up the Monroe Doctrine that said no foreign countries can become dominant in South America. So you see everything going on is planned. It's not an accident, and it's all related.

Speaker 2: 24:39

And it's related for people that want to take our constitution and violate it and create a government of elites with Bill Gates and all these other billionaires that have been involved with funding the election. Zuckerberg, four zero seven million or whatever he put in the Democratic party to fund the 2,000 mules and all those people. The FBI, Seth, has the phone numbers of all those mules, and they haven't called one of them to ask them how much money were they were getting per vote. Why? We have a corrupt FBI.

Speaker 2: 25:30

We've seen that from what they've done in Hunter Biden's laptop, what they have not done, and then how they've come after president Trump. This is the most serious problem we have ever had in our history against our republic and our constitution, and it's an open violation right now. And it goes back to your point of the open borders in France and ours, over 6,000,000 illegals in The United States, and the thousands of Chinese coming in that could easily be manning these circle k, these missiles that the Chinese have been sending in in containers and throughout the country. And a picture I saw of a camp in Texas where a lot of them are going, Are we going to have one to 200,000 Chinese people already at land first looking like Norman invasion? We have a crisis in Taiwan.

Speaker 2: 26:44

Is this course of action being looked at? Is General Milley still worried about white rage? I never saw it in thirty nine years in the military, four at West Point, 5 in the Air Force. I never saw white rage. So this is what's concerning me.

Seth Holehouse: 27:09

In looking at Well, saying that, you know, I'm seeing

Speaker 2: 27:14

Go ahead.

Seth Holehouse: 27:14

Seeing videos of that, you know, from what I understand, it's very difficult to obtain, you know, firearms. They don't have the second amendment like we do here. Yet, I'm seeing videos of a lot of these protesters, a lot of these immigrants with fully automatic weapons, even belt fed machine guns running down the street with belt fed machine guns in France. And if you look at America, I've, you know, for years, I've been seeing reports of the customs seizing, you know, shipping containers full of automatic weapons, full of all kinds of different, you know, weaponry that could be used against us. And so, I mean, do you think that basically kind of piecing together what you're saying, and I really agree with you, that, you know, in '26, or say in 2020, they, you know, COVID was what they used to disrupt our society so significantly that they were able to get away with the theft of the election.

Seth Holehouse: 28:11

And so what you're seeing is that as we enter back into 2024, that there's going to be the George Floyd playbook, but probably on steroids. And maybe this is why we're seeing it's like, you know, Joe Biden gets in 2020 opens up the border completely. So that way, as we enter into 2024, they're going to look for their trigger. And then what we see happening in France, I mean, do you think that we could see similar that we see, you know, immigrants, and all kinds of extremists running, you know, running through The United States with automatic weapons? And I mean, it seems like that they're they want to create almost a a war internally, like a fifth column war here in America.

Seth Holehouse: 28:56

I mean, that is that the seriousness that you're seeing that could be approaching us next year?

Speaker 2: 29:02

Absolutely. They wanna create chaos. We had it going in 2019 in Portland. Remember how every night there was a riot going on? They were trying to seize and burn down the courthouse.

Speaker 2: 29:17

You look at Los Angeles today. You look at San Francisco today. You look at Portland today. You look at Seattle today. You look at Washington, D.

Speaker 2: 29:28

C. Over the weekend, we had guys throwing Molotov cocktails in businesses. That's what we are going to see, and never did I believe sixty eight years ago when I took the oath of office to support and defend the constitution of The United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, that sixty eight years later, our greatest threat would be a domestic threat. A former president and the current president, all trying to change and negate our constitution so their elites, the money people, the Claus Schwab, the world economic forum. That's why you see it in France.

Speaker 2: 30:22

That's why you'll see it spill over to Germany. That's why you'll see what's going on up in Sweden. That's why you see what's going on in Italy. The boatloads of immigrants coming in. They want to create chaos globally, and since The United States has been the symbol of stability, symbol of a constitution that is honored by the commander in chief, and they have demeaned that, and they have demeaned the war in The Ukraine Under president Trump, it never would have started.

Speaker 2: 31:02

But what has president Biden done to get a peace negotiation? I was talking about the unrestricted warfare. We lost 107,000 Americans last year with fentanyl, shipped, no one denies it, by China into the cartels. The cartels are sending black money into the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is now a communist party.

Speaker 2: 31:36

They don't use that term. They use progressive, etcetera. Now the events that you just described are part of their game plan, and particularly if they're going to lose, they're going to do everything, even if it means a world war with Russia. So that's why what you were talking about and the discussion, that's why the Second Amendment is so important. And by the way, I mentioned fentanyl, one hundred and seven thousand.

Speaker 2: 32:16

Well, that's the rate of people we had killed in action in World War two per year, and this year it's gonna be two hundred thousand. And the president Biden has not said one word to Xi Jinping on it, and they're shipping it to the cartels. And J. D. Vance said over the weekend, We ought to use the military to attack the cartels.

Speaker 2: 32:44

Absolutely. In Mexico. Put them out of business. But Joe Biden is complicit in destroying this constitution. If he won 81,000,000 votes, the most of any president in the history of America, you and I would be demanding audits in all 50 states.

Speaker 2: 33:07

Instead, the Democratic Party, my estimate, has spent over a hundred million dollars preventing one audit, one complete audit in any of the six or any of the 50 states, yet I'd want bragging rights, wouldn't you? Saying that the American people, and he never says that because he knows how crooked it was, and that he is an unconstitutionally elected individual. And unfortunately, all members that are Democrats in the House and Senate are complicit. We have an invisible treasonous activity going on in America today that the constitution could not even define it. Our constitution defines treason as normally one individual, and yet we have very large groups that are doing this.

Speaker 2: 34:13

And how can there be any doubt with all the items that I've laid out, violations of our constitution, and and the openness which with Hunter Biden's laptop, that the FBI's had had that over five years, and now Jim Jordan and Jamie Comer are finally discovering these things and bringing them up in front of the congress, and they're so obvious to everybody. So we have a problem, and the problem is unlike the civil war, World War I, and World War II, all Americans knew we were at war. Now maybe 40 to 45, maybe 50% see this yet, thanks to people like you, Seth. They have people like me that will come on and give facts, and if anyone tells me, and I'd be delighted that Michigan that Ohio did excuse me. Pennsylvania did not have 2,000 200,000 more votes than voters, then I say just go talk to the secretary of state in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2: 35:31

The facts are there. Or in the midterms, two thousand twenty two, There was supposed to be a red tide. The Republicans actually won five Senate seats, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. Only Carrie Lake is fighting, and she was cheated out of the governorship. All those five Republicans took the remaining millions of dollars they had in their pot and walked away.

Speaker 2: 36:01

Why did Doctor. Oz walk away? Fetterman stole 330,000 votes, and this is just through cyber, from Doctor. Oz. Why didn't Doctor.

Speaker 2: 36:14

Oz demand an audit? Why are our republicans who are running not demanding audits? Only Carrie Lake is. God bless her. And only president Trump talks about it.

Speaker 2: 36:31

I'm an election denier. I am proud of It is so obvious, and with all of those 2,000 mules, you only have to interview 10 of them, find out they were getting $20 per ballot, and they would admit it, And then say, who banned you? And just follow that chain right up the line.

Seth Holehouse: 36:54

Folks, I got a quick message for you. As you can see in this discussion that we're having, these globalists, these communists are looking for any way possible to control us. One of the key ways they were trying to control us, as you'll see General McEnery talking about in this interview, is through our currency. They and it's like, folks, it is on our doorstep, the Central Bank digital currency, the Fed Now system. Basically, they want to be forcing us into this currency system that requires us to play by their rules, to play with their mark of the beast, so they can control everything that we're buying and selling.

Seth Holehouse: 37:28

And so look, even if you've got your cash sitting in a four zero one k or IRA or in the stock market, they're gonna try to find ways to force that money into their control system. And this is why I'm a big believer in silver and gold because it's here, right? This one ounce of silver right here, they have no idea that I have this. I could bury it in my backyard, I could stuff it in my back of my freezer, and they would have no idea. And then if things really get into a dire situation, I've got this as a backup.

Seth Holehouse: 37:58

I've got this if I have to buy food for my family or buy ammunition, or any anything like that. Not to mention the de dollarization process, which is happening and the inflation which is happening, they're trying to make it, they're trying to keep us going as long as possible for the reality of that inflation and the overprinting really sets in. And we could see a rapid, rapid decrease in the value of our dollars. And so if the money is sitting in these accounts, not only is that risk of being converted into some sort of central bank digital currency, but it's also tied to this dollar, which the Chinese and the BRICS nations are actively trying to destroy. And so, again, do your own research.

Seth Holehouse: 38:37

I'm not a financial advisor, but my personal recommendations that what I do if I have a little extra money, is exactly what I do. It's what I recommend for my friends and my family is just take some of your money, put it stick it away in precious metals, primarily silver right now because of the ratios between silver and gold. It's not about doing it so you can get rich. It's not some sort of get rich quick scheme. It's about having a rational understanding that our world is getting ready to go through very significant changes, and that this is a way to preserve your wealth.

Seth Holehouse: 39:06

This is a way to protect yourself that in the future, you can get food, you can buy land if you need to, you have this preservation of your wealth, it's not going to be tied into the dollar, which is a system that they're trying to use against us. And so look, if you have your own person, you buy silver and gold from, great. If you trust them, great. But if you don't know somebody or if you're not sure if the company you've been using so far is someone you can trust, I highly recommend Doctor. Kirk Elliott.

Seth Holehouse: 39:32

So Doctor. Kirk Elliott is a good friend of mine. He is a patriot, a Christian, he's got great morals and values. And what he's also doing is say you've purchased from a previous company because we're seeing this as if you've watched my shows with him lately, we're seeing a lot of these gold purchases, these gold companies that you're seeing advertised, unfortunately, on shows like mine are scamming people, they're taking advantage of Patriots, they're selling them gold for $3,000, 4 thousand dollars an ounce, they're selling them silver for over a hundred dollars of an ounce, whereas if you're paying more than $30 for an ounce of silver, you're being taken advantage of. And so not only is Doctor.

Seth Holehouse: 40:08

Kirk Elliott helping people to buy these things at a fair price, he's also helping you to understand what happened with a previous purchase. So you can literally email your receipt, your invoice from a previous gold or silver purchase to his CEO, Ashley, I'll put her information in the description below, and they'll do an audit of your purchase and help you to reallocate and get out of something that was done that was really a scam. So anyway, if you're interested in this with Doctor. Kirk Elliott, go to www.goldwithseth.com. So again, that's goldwithseth.com or you can call [phone].

Seth Holehouse: 40:49

Again, that's goldwithseth.com or [phone]. 1 of the points that you made that I wanted to touch upon is how you mentioned the how fentanyl is killing that we're basically we're at levels of World War Two in terms of our deaths. And and this is, know, I've read unrestricted warfare, and I encourage people to look into you can buy the translations on Amazon or any bookstore, just search for unrestricted warfare. Because the fact that right now in America, we're experiencing more deaths. And that's not even getting into the vaccine.

Seth Holehouse: 41:29

That's not even getting into the mandates that that wiped out our military, that we're in a worse situation, I believe, than we were at in World War Two, yet most Americans don't even know it. Yet we are literally in World War Three against China and the globalists, And they are just, they're moving their chess pieces and trying to go for checkmate, I think in 2024 with this. And it shows you how successful that they've been with their psychological operations, that if you ask any American, a, if we're at war, and if they if they say that we are, you say who against, you'll get 10 different answers. They might say we're against Russia, the Chinese, the American patriots, the conservative moms, the LGBTQ. I mean, there's just there's so much confusion here in America that, again, it points to the fact that this is not all coincidental.

Seth Holehouse: 42:23

This is all part of a very carefully orchestrated plan.

Speaker 2: 42:29

It is. It is a plan to take over America and the world, and you do not need that shining example on the hill where everybody can look up and say, we wanna be like America, and have a constitution, freedom of speech, and all the things that have exemplified our two forty seven years since the declaration. And so that's why what you do, Seth, is so important. So important. America must wake up.

Speaker 2: 43:08

This is our Normandy. This is our battle of the bulge. This is our evil genius. No matter what age you are, no matter what age, we must stand up and fight for our constitution, because we are being betrayed from within, and that's why they're doing the things that are so overtly exposes them when they raid a former president's residence, when they indict him, and all the things they are doing, they fear Trump because they cannot control him. That alone should seal the deal for anybody.

Speaker 2: 43:58

So that's what we're facing, and never before have we faced it. And if you were a listener, hears this for the first time and said, well, that general must be a tin hat. Well, look at the things that are going on. When was the last time we had 6,000,000 in two and a half years illegals come across the border openly that you see on television every day? When was the last time that gasoline was up to 3 over $4 a gallon?

Speaker 2: 44:34

It's down below it now. When was the last time that we had inflation at the rate forty years ago and for a different reason? The inflation is self inflicted. When was the last time your kids were being indoctrinated rather than taught? In practically every school in the country, except private schools and parochial schools, which didn't close down, are the students at their appropriate reading level.

Speaker 2: 45:11

In Baltimore, for instance, there are zero schools, zero schools that the children can read and write at their grade level. Zero. So that's our problem. If you don't think we've got a problem, you're missing it because they're coming after you. And pretty soon with this electronic dollar and that getting rid of cash, they are going to tell you whether you can drive for a weekend out of town or not.

Seth Holehouse: 45:50

And so I got a handful of questions for you, but one of them so when you're talking about the the globalists and, you know, say George Soros and and Bill Gates and, you know, Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum, You know, in in the research that I've done, if you trace, you know, these organizations, say, WEF, the WHO, you can see that the CCP actually has a lot of control over these organizations and that they're in fact using these organizations as tools to implement their plans globally. And so at that level, who do you see as being the ringleader? Who do you see as being the person that is calling the shots? Because a lot of people, they they point in different directions and we see that they're working together. But, you know, we know that, you know, that there's very few cases where you rise up and there's two multiple parties all getting along with the same goal.

Seth Holehouse: 46:47

Usually, goes into the place that there's one central level of control. And so I mean, do you see that as being the CCP that's calling a lot of the shots? Or how do you make sense of what's happening?

Speaker 2: 47:00

Well, Xi Jinping is is in a very influential role. There's no question about it. Barack Hussein Obama is in an influential. He's the only president that never left Washington. He moved 1.2 miles from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to Kalorama.

Speaker 2: 47:18

He has a skiff in his basement. He is controlling it in The US. Certainly, Biden is not. In Europe Well, in Canada, Trudeau is controlling it. In Europe, the different leaders are controlling it, but they're all kind of in agreement that they want this quasi socialist state where everybody's equal, open borders, etcetera.

Speaker 2: 47:48

The idea is coming out of Stadt in Switzerland when the World Economic Forum meets there under Klaus Schwab. George Soros is funding these liberal prosecutors that we're seeing in all these states as well that are are forgiving, making the victims, guilty and the criminals innocent. The Democratic Party is getting black money from the cartels. Why wouldn't the cartels? They're making billions.

Speaker 2: 48:25

Who's letting them do it? Democratic party. So what has the house done to stop the opening of the when when they were both rolled by the democrat? Now there's some resistance in the house, but not enough. You need both parties.

Speaker 2: 48:45

So it's it's diverse. The elite with all this money that these Zuckerberg and all of them, Schoros, Gates, etcetera, they're out for because they're gonna be the powerful elites that are running the country. They do not want We the People. So in direct answer to your question, I don't think there's one ink pen. I think there are newest ones around driven by money, these young people that got inordinate amounts of money when they were young, got lucky, they are contributing to this.

Speaker 2: 49:26

Zuckerberg, hundred plus million Democratic Party in 2020. So all those things so there's no one lead, but they have one idea of the elites funding it. We don't need people voting. That isn't going to get what we want. So hopefully I've answered that question for you.

Seth Holehouse: 49:51

Certainly It is. And so, know, one of the other questions is that for a lot of the folks, especially that watch this show, they see what's coming or what could be coming, you know, by by piecing it together and just using a little bit of common sense to understand where this country is potentially headed. And, you know, we know that, know, okay, it's like, well, how do we stop this? Because I think they want some sort of armed uprising. If you had people that, you know, stormed a capital building or something like that, it's almost like they want that because it gives them an excuse for martial law, gives them an excuse to come after the Second Amendment.

Seth Holehouse: 50:33

And so for the people that are trying to figure out how to save our country that know we're at war, what do we do? I mean, as we look forward to 2024, you know, obviously, it's not like 2020 or 2016, where it's going to be, hey, get out and vote and support your candidate. I feel like that obviously, we have to do that in right ways. But this is this is a pretty dire situation. And I think it'd be helpful to, you know, especially with your background in the military to understand what can the average person that wants to save this country do right now?

Speaker 2: 51:11

Well, first of all, they've got to identify as a problem. And if they see it and oppose it that see the problem, then they've got to act and be involved and talk to their neighbors and discuss. And clearly, the second amendment is there if we have to use it. I wanna use the constitution, and I want the twenty twenty four election to be constitutionally correct. And so I want to be like I was told night of sixth January twenty twenty one when they were the servers in that they were in the servers.

Speaker 2: 51:54

And I looked up in the television, and Dave Purdue and Kelly Long, they were both ahead at 11:00 at night. I want us to be armed, and and our military, our people, cybercrans, CIA, FBI, all those people, press down because there's no way they could miss that. There's no way they could miss that. So we have pockets in this that have betrayed us, and so we're going to have to do these things on our own, and there are things that we can call out. Our judiciary has betrayed didn't the Supreme Court hear that Texas, when they brought it up from 18 states, twenty twenty election?

Speaker 2: 52:47

And so John Roberts has betrayed us, And these people that have done that, we've got some good decisions that just came out last week, but all the courts, many of them have betrayed us. Look at what that judge did to, general Michael Flynn Even when the the, Department of Justice told them that they were no longer gonna press the charges, he kept trying to do it. Sullivan was his name. So we've got corrupt judges, and we need Americans that are that are doing this to realize what they're doing, those 2,000 mules. But who do they go to?

Speaker 2: 53:28

If they go to the FBI, they got a corrupt FBI. How deep does that go? Well, sheriffs. Let's start identifying the right sheriffs, the right people. We've got to improvise.

Speaker 2: 53:46

And all these illegals, I they don't have the same interest in democracy, although many are coming here to get away from their, autocratic regimes and dictators, Venezuela, Cuba, this type of thing.

Seth Holehouse: 54:07

So

Speaker 2: 54:07

there's no set pattern except get involved, because you're gonna lose everything and be told you're gonna be living in what you fled. And so so that's that's our challenge, but we need to get we're we're close to the threshold. You can see the illegal things that the Biden administration is doing to president Trump, all these arraignments. This is absolutely wrong, applying the espionage act to what really the and we'll see what the judges do on this one. Okay?

Speaker 2: 54:56

It should be the presidential records act that controls that. That is not a criminal act. That's a process. And look at what they've done to those six January people, the shaman. When Tucker Carlson had it and showed the pictures of him walking around, he had an honor guard escort, Seth.

Speaker 2: 55:26

They were not a military escort. It was an escort. It wasn't watching them. They showed open doors and unlocked doors, and what'd they get? Two years in a slammer or something?

Speaker 2: 55:42

Some of them, of course, have not had any legal advice and health, and so we know it's corrupt. So stand up, America. There's no pattern. Do what it's going to take so all the American people those 2,000 mules should turn the Democratic party down. We can no longer have this.

Speaker 2: 56:13

Americans betraying America. This isn't a political issue. This isn't an international issue. Do you want freedom of speech? Do you want the constitution?

Speaker 2: 56:26

The mainstream media, if it wasn't for people like you, I would have no forum to talk. The mainstream media has betrayed us. MSNBC, CBS, ABC, all of them, they betrayed us, and let's tell them that. It's not political. It's betraying our constitution, And dear Lord, get our religion back into our life.

Speaker 2: 56:58

It's one nation under God. I remember when President Eisenhower put that in our pledge of allegiance. How important it is. Dear Lord's not gonna forget us, but we've got to do it ourselves. We've to every American has got to understand.

Speaker 2: 57:18

We have got to fight for our freedoms now, or we're about to lose it all. The 2024 is gonna be the last one. They're going to cheat like hell again. We must stand up. Fox News wouldn't even show 2,000 viewers.

Speaker 2: 57:41

Now I worked for them for sixteen and a half years, but why did they betray us? Look, their anchors there have not. I think they wanna keep their jobs, but nobody talks about the twenty twenty election in Fox News, nor Newsmax. They do when they listen to you. That's why you're so important to what the nation is doing.

Speaker 2: 58:09

God bless you, my friend. You're doing the Lord's work.

Seth Holehouse: 58:14

Thank you for that. I feel like that you are too coming out speaking like this and the people that watch this and are sharing this content. It's all, it all works together. It's like an army, you know, you've got your medics, you've got your people on the front line. I mean, it's all working in conjunction.

Seth Holehouse: 58:32

And so, as we look forward, you know, knowing the seriousness of this situation and the intricacy of the plans that are have been set in place and set into motion to bring this nation to its knees, Do you still have hope for the future? I mean, you mentioned Trump getting in in 2016 as being divine providence, which I certainly agree with that. It's a good reminder that even in a very dark time, that God still has his way of creating a path for us. And so as you look forward to this nation, do you have hope for where we're headed?

Speaker 2: 59:14

I have hope, but hope is not a strategy. And I pray, and I pray deeply to the dear Lord, that he may pull those things out. And things have been coming out, like the text messages from Hunter Biden's, I'm sitting here with my father that he sent to the Chinese. So I have hopes. Better to say hope is not a strategy.

Speaker 2: 59:42

We need action. And we all got to pray, got to thank the dear Lord for what he's given us. He's been he created America. He was behind the founding fathers, and when we look at those documents today and all that, Seth, I mean, how ingenious could they be? I mean, whether they owned slaves or not, they saw that all men are created equal.

Speaker 2: 01:00:18

They set the groundwork for it. God bless them. And so we are one nation under God. Let's remember that. But as my mother used to tell me, the dear Lord helps those that help themselves.

Speaker 2: 01:00:37

So every one of us must do in our own way, recognize we have this problem, recognize we have an illegally elected president. He wasn't elected. He used technology. The founding fathers did not understand cyber warfare, and it was our system that the Chinese implemented on us. So that's a problem now.

Speaker 2: 01:01:10

Elections really have got to go back to basically a ballot, take the cyber out of it that's hand counted. We were able to do elections before. The French do it that way today. We can do it that way. And then they can't manipulate with hammering scorecard, and they can't have the mail in ballots.

Speaker 2: 01:01:35

All these things are important changes, but what are the states doing to do it to make the changes? Carrie Lake, God bless her, she's still fighting out there, and pray for Pray the dear Lord gives her strength to prove that that was an illegal election. There's more than enough evidence. Read Debunked by Joseph Fried, a great book. It's got everything in here.

Speaker 2: 01:02:05

It tells you exactly what they did, and he's just an auditor. He's not a poli sci guy or anything. He's just an auditor. He went in and looked, and so it was obvious to him, but the mainstream media has betrayed us. They've betrayed us.

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:25

Yeah. They they have. Unfortunately, a lot of these people have. But as more people have realized that they have betrayed us, we've got more folks like myself and many others that are filling the place. And so there's so much of the audience that's watching and listening to this show that no longer tunes into Fox after Fox called Arizona on 2020 and refused to acknowledge any of the, you know, all the evidence, the massive amounts of evidence of a very deliberate election fraud, they lost a lot of their audience after they fired Tucker.

Seth Holehouse: 01:02:58

That was the, you know, the last, the last straw for many other people. And so you're seeing that there is a lot of people that are truly waking up to what's really happening. And that does give me encouragement. So, General McInerney, thank you again so much for coming here. You've got just a lot of wisdom that's helpful to hear.

Seth Holehouse: 01:03:21

Because a lot of us, you know, we're trying to figure out what's going on. And I find that in talking to you, you really see things for what they are. And your your years of experience and wisdom are very helpful at this time in history. And so do you have any closing words for the audience?

Speaker 2: 01:03:40

America. This is our Normandy. This is our Iwo Jima. This is our battle of the bulge. We had six, 17, 18, 19 year old kids dying.

Speaker 2: 01:03:55

Now we're going to have to do it. No matter what age you are, no matter what age, you've got to learn what's going on, listen to people like that in programs, figure it out, get books like Debunk, talk amongst your friends, and the young kids in college, if you took out a loan, then you're gonna pay for that loan. That's the responsible thing to do. If you're a minority and want reparations, you were never a slave. Get things by working hard.

Speaker 2: 01:04:41

Don't expect people just to pay you because of skin color. The meritocracy is what is important, not your skin color. And look at those Asians that Harvard and Yale didn't wanna bring in because of their skin color. No. They're working hard.

Speaker 2: 01:05:04

They're working very hard. Let's reward them. Let's reward people that work hard. That's what made America great. So God bless you, Steph, for what you're doing to help educate America and carry the message forward.

Speaker 2: 01:05:22

I salute you.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:24

Thank you. It's an honor. And thank you again for being here. Thank you for what you're doing. It's great to have your voice, and I look forward to next time having you back on the show.

Speaker 2: 01:05:36

Me too.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:36

Take care and God bless.

Speaker 2: 01:05:37

Thank you.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:39

Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed that interview with General McInerney. What an inspiring guy. And also a quick note, actually, I looked it up afterwards, but he saluted me at the end of the interview as you saw. And I wasn't sure like, you know, I'm not a military guy.

Seth Holehouse: 01:05:55

So I wasn't sure if it was respectful to salute back or just say thank you. And so I looked it up actually afterwards because I felt bad. Was like, oh, should I have saluted him? But anyway, I'm not sure why even I'm telling you this, but more so just because I want to be really respectful, especially people like him that have just had so much service for our country. So anyway, I hope you enjoyed that.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06:16

So we've now got an interview with Doctor. Kirkcala, which is really an economic update. So we talked about just what was happening with the instability in Europe, how that affects a lot of things, you know, General McInerney touched upon the central bank digital currency, how that ties into everything. And overall, the pro you know, de dollarization really we we mentioned unrestricted warfare, and the the destruction of a currency is a significant part of unrestricted warfare. So we've now got an update from Doctor.

Seth Holehouse: 01:06:46

Kirkcalich, which I think actually flows really well into this conversation. So folks enjoy. Kirk, it is so good to see you as usual, How are you doing?

Speaker 3: 01:06:57

I'm doing really great. Happy fourth of July week.

Seth Holehouse: 01:07:01

Yeah, it's an important reminder of the need for the occasional rebellion, isn't it?

Speaker 3: 01:07:09

Oh my word. I mean, that's how our country started, right? It's how we we gained our religious freedom from Europe, and that's what it was all about. And then when we gained religious freedom, it moved to political freedom and political freedom moved to personal freedom, right? And it seems to have gone full circle and people forget.

Speaker 3: 01:07:29

They just forget. And as I talk to so many people every single day, Seth, I'm constantly reminded of what I was reading this weekend in Psalms. And it wasn't a warning, but it was just like, remember. So, God was telling David in the Psalms, it's like, the Israelites, when we read through what they went through in the past, it's like, are they so dumb? Seriously, they're always making the wrong decisions and they get curses and then they make the good ones and they have blessings and they keep going back and forth.

Speaker 3: 01:08:05

And in reality, we're no different. I mean, seriously, we're no different now than we were then. People are people. But it's like the remembrance of, don't you remember that when you were fleeing Egypt, I parted the Red Sea for you? Don't you remember that when you were hungry, I gave you manna from heaven?

Speaker 3: 01:08:27

Don't you remember? All these things, right? All these remembrances of like, was always there to protect and to preserve and to guide, but yet you keep making dumb decisions and keep going the way of focusing on the negative when there's a solution right in front of us, right? So as I'm talking to people every single day, all day long, all week long, all month long, people are so gripped and consumed by fear. It's like, don't forget, God's still on the throne.

Speaker 3: 01:08:55

He's still got this. Right? But but he does give us wisdom and knowledge and discernment to understand the times that we're living in so we can navigate through that with success rather than have to live in this world of fear where people tend to forget that God will deliver them out of whatever they're in, right? Whether it's a health issue or whether it's a personal issue, a political issue, a national issue, financial issue. He's always there.

Speaker 3: 01:09:22

He's never left. He's never left.

Seth Holehouse: 01:09:25

That's always a good reminder to me too, because even when bad things happen, I just say like, well, it'd be easy to say like, well, Satan did this. And it's but I remember myself, it's like, does Satan do things that God doesn't allow? You know what mean? Like, that's it's like is there's only one man that you know, those one man sits at the top of the throne. You know what I mean?

Seth Holehouse: 01:09:48

And if I mirror correctly, they're gonna get kicked out. So it's just this reminder, even, you know, when my brother passed away when he was 33, which was way too young for someone to die, that was what helped me is like, he would not have passed on if it wasn't God's will. You know, like that ultimately, so that really helped me to just to find peace with that. So Right. But as we're kind of getting into the, you know, from the spiritual into the material of the world economy and the dollar and all this kind of stuff, there's something that you know, you and I were talking about just before the show started.

Seth Holehouse: 01:10:26

And it's just this tweet that came out that was put out by the Russian embassy in Kenya, which I feel like that not many people caught notice of. I didn't see it on Zero Hedge or the main places I'm always looking. I just so happened to come across on Twitter. And this is really, really significant. So I'm gonna pull this up because I really wanna hear your thoughts on this.

Seth Holehouse: 01:10:47

But here's a tweet right here. This is again from the this is the official Russian embassy in Kenya Twitter account. And they said this was on July 3. So this is, you know, today as we're recording. Said, the BRICS countries are planning to introduce a new trading currency which will be backed by gold.

Seth Holehouse: 01:11:06

More and more countries recently expressed desire to join BRICS. Now, you know, whether it's you or other guests I've had on like Andy Shechtman, a lot of folks have said that everything points to a, the new BRICS currency, you know, ideally that they're they're pushing for that to be the new global reserve currency instead of the dollar. That b, it'll be backed by commodities, and c, that it'll be backed by gold. But up until now, that's all been speculative. Whereas I'm not sure what their intention of with doing this or who was controlling this Twitter account, but the embassy, the Russian embassy Twitter account coming out and saying the new BRICS currency will be backed by gold and that there's been overwhelming support and more and more countries coming in trying to join.

Seth Holehouse: 01:11:55

I mean, what do you what do you make of this?

Speaker 3: 01:11:58

So I haven't seen that tweet. However, this is interesting to me because it validates other stuff that I that I know to be happening. So so August 22 through August 26, the BRICS nations are having a confab. Right? They're they're having this this big meeting in South Africa.

Speaker 3: 01:12:21

They're inviting over 60 national leaders evidently to this announcement, whatever this announcement is. I have a feeling based on where they're meeting that this is the announcement. Because when you think of the BRICS nations, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, if you're gonna have a meeting to expose something to the world, why not have it in Shanghai or Moscow, the two biggest countries in the BRICS nations? They're having the meeting in South Africa, the smallest of the BRICS nations. And then, you know, South Africa has two, you know, jewel cities, Johannesburg and Cape Town.

Speaker 3: 01:12:58

Well, they're not even meeting there. They're meeting in Durban, South Africa. So as you think about it, knowing what I know about the industry, South Africa is the largest gold mining country in the world, and Durban, actually, the city of Durban in South Africa has the largest gold in the mine in the world, the Durban Deep Mine. So I think this is very symbolic. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:13:21

So you just expose that from the Russian embassy saying that they're gonna have a BRICS currency that's backed by gold. And in just a month and a half away, the BRICS nations are meeting in Durban, South Africa, the place of the largest gold mine in the world, in the country that has more gold mining than any country in the world, to make some kind of announcement. So this is where I think that could be very symbolic. I mean, it could be wrong, but I doubt it, not not faced with what you just shared, because that's the first time I've heard an official embassy state that this is happening, one of the BRICS nations. Speculation all day long every day, and you can tell by the amount of gold that these countries are amassing.

Speaker 3: 01:14:05

With Russia having central bank reserves now of over 1,600 tons of gold, China almost a thousand tons of gold, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkey, like 400 tons of gold, India, over 200 tons of gold. I mean, that's a lot of gold. Right? That's not ounces or pounds or tons. It's hundreds of tons or thousands of tons.

Speaker 3: 01:14:29

That's a lot. So then they're having this meeting in conjunction with the announcement that you just posted. Sure. They're obviously pointing towards something. They're pointing towards they want to usurp the US dollars, the world's reserve currency, something we've talked about a lot.

Speaker 3: 01:14:46

This just puts a timeline to that agenda because it looks like they're meeting in August for that. Could I be wrong? Could they be meeting about something else? Sure. But I really, really doubt it based on where they're meeting.

Seth Holehouse: 01:14:58

Well, what's also crazy is that this is the article they shared with that tweet. So the article that they put up there was a BRICS currency could shake the dollars dominance. De dollarization's moment might finally be here, which was up on foreign policy. So, I mean, to me that seems pretty significant. Now again, we've been talking about this for quite some time.

Seth Holehouse: 01:15:21

But you know, right now, you know, when I go to the store, I still use either, you know, cash or a credit card. I'm still paying with dollars. There's not hyperinflation, you know, an ounce of silver is, you know, you know, still under $25. You know what I mean? So gold is still hovering at that 1,900 to $2,000 mark.

Seth Holehouse: 01:15:43

So it seems like, as we talked about in our last show, that there there's something happening where they're really they're it's like the dam is almost ready to break, and they're closing every last crack they can. So most people are saying, I feel a light sprinkle, but all that is a little water coming out of the crack. Whereas we're saying look like the whole thing is is like ready to break basically. But for a lot of folks, life just seems normal. And it's like, okay.

Seth Holehouse: 01:16:14

Yeah. You know, the the gold bugs are always talking about the dollar being collapsing and whatnot. But it just it seems like this is this whole process is very, very close. And my question to you is that and not really in a speculative sense, but let's just say that August, you know, rolls out and they say, you know, there's this meeting and they officially announce this the official Brix currency. And they say that, okay, we're now gonna start using this as the official currency in all these BRICS nations.

Seth Holehouse: 01:16:48

So trade between Saudi Arabia and all this. It's all gonna be done using this BRICS currency, which is also backed by gold, which would make sense why we talked about, you know, even though Turkey is having their the value of their currency just plummet because they're having to keep raising the rates and everything, they're struggling with that. But they're also buying all this gold at the same time. It's almost as if they knew this ahead of time. And so the the big question I have is that when that announcement happens, what happens to the dollar and what happens to proxy silver?

Seth Holehouse: 01:17:25

You know, silver has a relationship with gold. I know this is so speculative. I'm just curious what you think would

Speaker 3: 01:17:31

happen. So in economic terms, you know, function of supply and demand, there's gonna be very little demand for the US dollar, like none. So when you have low demand and high supply, which they're printing money like there's no tomorrow, So there's a lot of supply of dollars, but there's very little demand. The prices just get tanked. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:17:55

So the the dollar should just absolutely collapse after something like that. Because the only thing economically that makes anything go up in price, I don't care if it's a currency or a bicycle or groceries, is low supply and high demand. And what you've got is the opposite. You've got high supply and low demand at that point, which means the writing is on the wall. It's the death knell for the US dollar.

Speaker 3: 01:18:19

Now as that happens, we still have expenditures to pay for in this country. There's still stimulus programs. There's still entitlements. There's still the debt ceiling. Even though there's no ceiling, there's still all this debt, right, that they're gonna print money.

Speaker 3: 01:18:34

So what does that mean? If there's no demand for the dollar, there's nobody buying it, and they're gonna keep jacking up interest rates to entice foreign buyers to say, hey, Here's a reward for the risk that you're taking in this junk currency. We're gonna just raise rates. And ultimately, we'll find an equilibrium price where maybe they they get enough of foreign capital inflow at what they need at 15% interest rates or 18 or 20 or 25 or 30, or maybe they never get to that point because they don't stop printing money. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:19:05

Then we still have all this stimulus. And if they just keep printing money to try to get their way out of it that way, which is the the easiest way to get it done. Because raising interest rates, that that's immediate. People that have debt are gonna feel the pinch every single day. Raising the inflation rate by printing money, I mean, that's gonna impact all of us, but people don't necessarily pin the blame on on the government or the fed for inflation.

Speaker 3: 01:19:32

They'll say it's market driven. It's like, you know, there's just people gouging these these horrible capitalists and these big companies, and they're jacking up prices. Like, no. They're jacking up prices because component parts go through the roof during inflation when they print money like there's no tomorrow, and we still import more than what we export, which means in a devalued currency, they those foreign countries are just gonna say, hey, America. You know, we used to charge you a thousand dollars for the circuit board.

Speaker 3: 01:20:03

Now we're gonna charge you 1,800 because your inflation is so much. We want more of your junk currency to pay for our stuff. Right? So this is why we have inflation. So I I would see gold and silver going through the roof.

Speaker 3: 01:20:15

I would see inflation going through the roof. I see interest rates continuing to rise to try to slow down inflation, and I see the US dollar collapsing after something like this. That that's how an economist would answer that question, and that's how I would answer it because that's the reality of the situation.

Seth Holehouse: 01:20:34

Which is in interesting that you just go back to the basics of economics one hundred one, which is just supply and demand. I mean, that's that's really what it, you know, why is it that Hermes, you know, who sells, they sell really high end handbags, they can charge $60 for some of their handbags because they've intentionally limited the supply. You have get on a waiting list to buy one of their handbags. Now, you know, that's it's a good business model if you can get to that position, but that's just the reality of it versus say, you know, Coach handbags, which you can go to, you know, any department store and find unlimited numbers of them. And so they're not going to be nearly as much.

Seth Holehouse: 01:21:13

Mean, that's it's a similar kind of equation. And so, so that's like, mean, really it it makes good sense though, that when that announcement happens when they say, okay, look, we're now rolling out this new currency that I imagine a lot of countries, even the countries that right now are not part of BRICS, but these countries that they understand the role of the dollar, they understand how The United States has used the dollar in a lot of ways as a weapon of war. They've used it to finance, you know, our military industrial complex, global war machine, that a lot of these countries are just gonna say, you know what, why still play with that guy. It's almost like there's there's two sandboxes, right? This sandbox has a bowling in it that keeps putting sand in your eyes and keeps you know, kind of punching you and beating you up.

Seth Holehouse: 01:22:05

And there's the other sandbox, she's like, I'm gonna go over that sandbox where they're not going to do that, even though their long term goal might be under the CCP. Not that I don't trust the BRICS nations very much and their intentions. But I think for a lot of countries, they're going to say, you know what, that makes a lot more sense than being stuck within this US dollar hegemony.

Speaker 3: 01:22:26

Well, it's interesting. I love your handbag example, right, because it's a very good explanation of what's happening to the US dollar. You've got one that's in high demand that there's not enough of it out there and people want it because it's perceived as being the best and having value and everything else. Right? So so then you have Coach, still a very high quality handbag, but they print they make a ton of them.

Speaker 3: 01:22:51

Right? And then when they don't sell them all, you can find Coach outlets at every outlet mall in America where they're even half price. Right? It's like, then at that point, they just become some worthless commodity, and the price keeps coming down until they get rid of their inventory. This is where the dollar is right now.

Speaker 3: 01:23:08

We're actually at the point of, in that example, of the dollar going to the outlet mall, right, in terms of international desire. It's like, well, we couldn't get Nobody would invest in it outright, so let's just devaluing it. Right? Let's just make a ton of them and see what we can get what we get. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:23:27

I mean, that's kind of what's happening to it, but that has consequences. Now the consequences are the rest of the world now perceives the US dollars. We've squandered our time in the sun. We've printed too much of it. We've tried to fund every stimulus program under the sun.

Speaker 3: 01:23:44

We've we've done all these, like, oh, foreign assistance campaigns. We're bailing out Ukraine's retirement plan. We're doing this. We're doing that. We've got women, infant, children programs, food stamps, entitlements, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare.

Speaker 3: 01:23:59

We've got the I mean, everything. I mean, truly, this is why they had to take the ceiling off the debt ceiling. So when that happens, the rest of the world starts to look for a different solution. They try to look for something better because they view us as squandering our time in the sun. Sure enough, on July 1, the writing's been on the wall within the banking industry for quite some time.

Speaker 3: 01:24:23

So everything you and I have been talking about for months, we never speculate on this stuff. We look at the research. We look at the horse's mouth. We see what the Fed is talking about these things. We see what the Bank of International Settlements is saying, and then we just report on it.

Speaker 3: 01:24:38

I would never want to just speculate on my opinion. I want to take it from the horse's mouth and then analyze what that could possibly mean. So on July 1, just two days ago, was the last day of LIBOR, the London interbank offering rate. This is the LIBOR is what every single loan basically in America has its interest rate tied to. So whether it's bank to bank or interbank loans, whether it's the thirty year treasury, whether it's it's, you know, what countries pay, you know, other countries to to basically be a a lender, right, or a borrower from those countries.

Speaker 3: 01:25:18

It's what credit card payments are based on. It's what car payments are based on, right? They're all based on on LIBOR. Basically Well, that has changed.

Seth Holehouse: 01:25:25

Just make sure I understand correctly. So that the interest rates that we see with banks, credit cards, cars, etc, that, you know, we're used to there being, know, some in The United States, we perceive it as like, okay, well, there's a our rates are x and so most rates are based on that but basically so that LIBOR is what in a lot of ways ties all of the interest rates globally. Right? Which Yeah. So wouldn't that also in effect because the US dollar is the the reserve currency, wouldn't that also create extra strength for the US dollar because it ties it ties all these countries and everything into the core interest rates that in a lot of ways are being driven by the dollar.

Seth Holehouse: 01:26:09

Is that correct? So what happens if it gets undone?

Speaker 3: 01:26:13

This is the pickle that we're in right now. So the the LIBOR rate is tied to the US dollar. So every single mortgage, every single loan that we get, every everyone gets the same base rate, whether you're a bank to a bank. And then the only thing that changes that base rate is you're gonna have add ons. You'll have moving parts.

Speaker 3: 01:26:34

Well, what's your credit score? What's the duration of the loan? What are you buying? Is it high risk or low risk? Right?

Speaker 3: 01:26:40

It's like a house is gonna probably have a lower interest rate than a credit card, right? Because in this grand scheme of things, people are always gonna try to make their house payments first so they don't get kicked out of their house. If they get their credit card taken away, who gives a flip? Right? So this is now you have the base rate, everything is tied on top of that.

Speaker 3: 01:27:03

So every country is basically the same, right, because they're all looking at LIBOR, which is pegged to the US dollar. Well, that doesn't work. This whole system of the federal reserve clearing house, which is what it's called, that's a fifty year old antiquated system based on paper currency. You could never have a central bank digital currency based on their clearing house model. It wouldn't work.

Speaker 3: 01:27:26

So therefore there's always something else that needed to replace the old system for the new foundation to be based on. So we're going from the clearinghouse system to a new digital system called ISO 20,022. So basically that's like replacing the SWIFT system where all bank wires are going from country to country with something different that has the same programming language universally all over the world. So it doesn't matter if it's basic or COBOL or SQL or whatever, right? If you're talking about computer programming language, this is the language that ties everything together.

Speaker 3: 01:28:05

It's like the tower of battle, right? So that's ISO two hundred-two-two. On top of that, you'll have cryptocurrencies. You'll have the FedNow app. You'll have all these different things that use that same standard so they can communicate back and forth.

Speaker 3: 01:28:21

That's what was needed for Central Bank Digital Currency to get rid of the old antiquated paper system. Now, as of July 1, '1 of the main cogs in the paper system, the LIBOR interest rates, was changed to something called SOFR, so the standard overnight funding rate. And I Googled it. I Googled just SOFR, and what came up, like the first, like, 50 things that were talking about it was different banks, different banks saying, hey, we're changing our lending standards from LIBOR to SOFR. Banks have known about this for quite some time, and they knew that July 1 was the transition date.

Speaker 3: 01:29:02

Why do they have to know about that? Because if they've got loans outstanding or adjustable rate mortgage or something that are tied to LIBOR, there's a time if you've had one of those for less than two years, they're just going to switch it over. If you're over two years, well, then they'll just let your existing loan mature until they switch it the new rating system. So what's the big stinking deal about the new rating system? Okay, this is where it starts to get squirrelly.

Speaker 3: 01:29:26

Remember, LIBOR is tied to the US dollar. It's like the reserve currency status of what we have every loan in the world. The new SOFR system is not tied to the US dollar. It's actually tied to the assets of the country needing the loan. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:29:45

So if you have a ton of assets in your country, like let's say the BRICS nations, we'll just use that as an example, they've got thousands of tons of gold backing up their currency, they've got a manufacturing base, they've got an agricultural base, they've got a strong military, blah, blah, blah. So what their SOFR rate would be is lower than a country that has a higher risk profile. So what the bankers are now calling this is the risk free rate, right? So you're going to get a rate that's lower if the risk is less of us lending money to you. So every company, every bank in the BRICS nations is probably gonna have a lower rate than companies or banks in The United States.

Speaker 3: 01:30:31

Why? What do we have that's a good asset other than our people? Well, we've outsourced most of our jobs to Asia, right? We now are losing our petrodollar status. We have banks that are failing.

Speaker 3: 01:30:48

We've got wages that are coming down. We've got interest rates that are going up. We have inflationary pressures. It's a bad time for America financially.

Seth Holehouse: 01:30:56

It's kind of like America is this this guy that, you know, just went through a divorce and he's in his car was repoed and his credit's like a, you know, five zero five and he's going to get a loan and the bank's like, know what, we'll give you a loan that we're gonna be charging you 25%. Right? It's almost like America is that kind of a person. Whereas, you know, like China as an example is like the the Chinese guy that's has stored away his gold and look I know a lot of Chinese I can tell you, they are typically way better at saving than Americans. They do not live on credit, you know, like they, their philosophy is like, you know, spend about 10% of what you make.

Seth Holehouse: 01:31:37

Right? Whereas in America, it's like, ah, spend about 110 of what you make and credit card take care of the Right? It's a difference in culture. It is.

Speaker 3: 01:31:46

That's that's all it is. It's a saving culture, which we used to be there. You know, in the fifties, sixties, seventies. We used to save as a country, but then it became a thing of, well, keep up with the Joneses. It was like a lifestyle of conspicuous consumption that the old philosopher Thorstein Veblen defined America as.

Speaker 3: 01:32:07

We're never going to recover from that. At some point, you use good money to buy bad things, even though it might be a good thing. It's something that devalues. You're not saving up for the future. So this is where we are.

Speaker 3: 01:32:20

It's just a difference. It's a difference in culture. So we as Americans tend to think our currency is never going anywhere for crying out loud. We're the US dollar. We've got strength.

Speaker 3: 01:32:31

Well, that normalcy bias is generally what kills people's portfolios. It's like, for example, well, Microsoft has never failed me. I've owned it for twenty years, right? So therefore, it's going to continue to go on. Or mobile or Exxon or General Motors, right?

Speaker 3: 01:32:46

You name it. But companies can go out of business. Companies can have a boom and a bust cycle just like anything else. And that normalcy bias will kill you, especially when we're looking at a change in the currency system. This isn't a normal downturn, right?

Speaker 3: 01:33:03

Where it's like, profits are down this quarter. We're gonna lay some people off. And then as soon as the markets boom back up again, we'll hire those people back. And this is normalcy bias from the past, right? So people always think in the long run, the stock market's always gonna go up, so therefore we'll just ride out these periods.

Speaker 3: 01:33:23

This is one of those different timeframes because we're not talking about a normal correction. We're talking about the change of a currency system as we know it globally, not just in America, but globally. And it's tied to your ideology. It's tied to how you spend, and it's tied to politicians who decide, well, let's just take the ceiling off the word debt ceiling. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:33:47

So just, you know, if we don't believe how dumb some of these politicians can be I mean, no joke. I was this morning, I was reading an article, and I mean, you might even be able to find it. If you if you Google the White House considers blocking sunlight, you're gonna pull up this crazy dumb article where where Biden is talking about the the carbon emissions, the greenhouse effect, and there's this dumb proposal on the table to block sunlight. It's like, how would you block sunlight? Right?

Speaker 3: 01:34:24

They wanna spray all kinds of aerosols into the atmosphere. It's like, wait a second. I thought aerosols were dangerous. You don't want those out there. Right?

Speaker 3: 01:34:32

I thought that that that caused the greenhouse effect. Oh, no. Not if you spray them above the clouds, and then it puts a reflective coating on the clouds, and the sun that comes down will bounce off the top of the clouds and go back into space. And over a three year span, we will have global cooling. But, oh, well, what's the problem with that?

Speaker 3: 01:34:52

What's the problem with taking the role of God and putting it into your own hands? God created the earth and he created these climates and he created this change, right? When you start messing with it, I mean, nobody knows what's going to happen if you block sunlight. Like crops might not grow. The seed might rise and whole cities or coastlines, like the East Coast or the West Coast might be underwater.

Speaker 3: 01:35:20

You might have entire ecosystems that die because they're used to warm weather. It's like, wait, I thought all these environmentalists were really concerned about the environment, but yet they're planning a weird system to block sunlight. See, when you start to have problems and you create a social agenda around the problem and around the economy, you're gonna start making stupid decisions. Right? It's just this is what they're doing, and this is why I think we're at the point of outside of a miracle, you're almost at the point of no return financially because you've got politicians that are just making the stupid decisions.

Speaker 3: 01:36:01

So the economy has to crash. It just needs to correct. That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's removing all the excesses and all the debt from the system. But if you're in the system while it crashes, that is a bad thing for you.

Speaker 3: 01:36:16

If you're out of the system while things crash and allocate it into something that's going to grow like gold or silver, a tangible asset that everybody is looking to, the countries of the world looking to back their currency with gold. Why would the BRICS nations be looking to do that? Because it's an ancient relic that's stupid? No. It's because they know that it has value and they know that people are looking for value.

Speaker 3: 01:36:40

In a world where nothing makes sense anymore, people always look for something that makes sense. This is why they're doing it, right? So like we talked about last week, my encouragement to everybody watching is don't listen to what they say, watch what they do, right? Because they're going to pooh pooh gold and silver as an ancient relic, and they're going to say that their central bank digital currency is gonna solve all the problems, while at the same time, they're mounting thousands and hundreds of tons of gold to back up their currency. In fact, the Twitter article, the tweet that you posted earlier with the Russian embassy saying, we're gonna have central bank digital currency with the BRICS nations.

Speaker 3: 01:37:20

It's backed by gold. It's like, okay. That matches up with the meeting that's coming up. We should probably watch what they're doing, act accordingly, and do the same thing because they're not in it to lose all of their citizens' money. They're not in it to lose their political clout.

Speaker 3: 01:37:37

They're in it to gain. So when they're going into gold to back the validity of what they're doing, I would say, you should probably do the same thing. Start looking at tangible assets as people because they're not stupid. They might be evil, Seth, but they're not stupid. You don't become a PhD economist running central banks around the globe by being stupid.

Speaker 3: 01:37:58

They just have a different agenda than we do. And but we can identify it and act accordingly and move ourselves into safe ground.

Seth Holehouse: 01:38:05

And so if because I know that that's exactly where you come in the picture. So if people say they have money sitting in a four zero one ks or savings or under the mattress, they want to reallocate that into silver or gold, which is what you do. What process what steps do they take?

Speaker 3: 01:38:23

So the steps are really easy. By design, we've made it easy. So you just call our office or go to the website link that you have, right? And you'll talk to one of our schedulers. Our schedulers are asking you a few questions.

Speaker 3: 01:38:36

What are you trying to protect and preserve? What did Kirk and Seth talk about that caused you to want to reach out? And then they'll set up an appointment with one of my amazing advisors, right? Which will then dig deep, ask you questions like, what are your fears? What are your concerns?

Speaker 3: 01:38:52

What are trying to accomplish? Do you need income? Do you need growth? What is it? And then we'll map out a strategy for success moving forward.

Speaker 3: 01:39:00

My team will move the funds, whether it's an IRA or a non IRA, we'll move the funds. All you have to do is sign a quick form. And then this is where our journey together begins. Then I get to hold your hand through the economy moving forward and always let you know when it's time to buy, sell, reallocate, get out of Dodge, do whatever needs to be done based on not just some stupid chart, which a lot of people like to look at charts and think, oh, I'm perfect timer. I know when to get in, when to get out.

Speaker 3: 01:39:27

No. Fundamentals always drive everything. You know, if the fundamentals that cause stock market growth are simple, lowering taxes, lowering interest rates, and creating jobs. The fundamentals that cause stock market shrinkage are the opposite, raising taxes, raising interest rates, and wage shrinkage. That's what we've got right now.

Speaker 3: 01:39:48

With the added ugliness of inflationary pressures, which are gonna cause interest rates to go up even further, add that to political chaos, add that to geopolitical conflict, add that to some not even a bureaucrat, not even an elected official, some person that has a job at the Bank of International Settlements or World Economic Forum defend basically determining the financial future of the rest of the world. Right? It's like, They're not even elected officials. That's just some guy or some gal that has a job at the right place at the right time that's trying to determine what the future of the world looks like. Couple that with stupid politicians that think they can take the role of god and block the sun.

Speaker 3: 01:40:31

It's like, what? I mean, truly, it's a bizarro world. And when you see that, you know, it's time to reallocate, it's time to reposition into strength and beat them at their own game, seriously.

Seth Holehouse: 01:40:46

And so people can just go to goldwithseth.com. It's goldwithseth.com or just call you guys directly at [phone]. If they go to the website, scroll to the bottom, there's a little form there. Just fill out that basic form. And this information is also gonna be in the description, below.

Seth Holehouse: 01:41:07

So, well, Kirk, it's always fun having you on. It's, you know, there's a it's constantly changing. I'm really looking forward to this early August meeting to see what comes out of that because it just, you know, not in a negative way. It just feels like that we're on the cusp of a lot of change. And there's gonna be some good change and some bad change.

Seth Holehouse: 01:41:26

But it's, you know, again, back to the very beginning of our episode, it's all in God's hands either way. So again, Kirk, thank you for what you're doing. Thanks for joining us today.

Speaker 3: 01:41:39

It is my pleasure. You have an awesome, awesome week. Happy fourth of July weekend. We'll talk to you soon.

Seth Holehouse: 01:41:44

Alright. Thank you, Kirk.