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Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for every reader, hosted by Molly Galler, Stephanie Blackburn, and Kaitlin Mattison. We're three friends who love to read, swap books, and count down until the film and TV adaptations of our favorites are released. Follow us on Instagram, @plansarebooked, or reach out to us directly at plansarebooked@gmail.com.
Molly Galler (00:01)
Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for every reader. I'm Molly Geller.
Stephanie (00:07)
I'm Stephanie Blackburn. And I'm Caitlin Madison and we can finally talk about the trailer of the idea of the idea of
Kaitlin (00:10)
And I'm Caitlin Madison and we can finally talk about the trailer of The Idea View because it's out and I watched it like eight hours ago and these bitches would not let me talk about it all day until we got to the podcast. So now we're finally doing it. Hallelujah.
Stephanie (00:33)
I already have the first single on my phone.
Molly Galler (00:36)
I have to say that when I saw that they were doing music, yeah, when I saw that they were doing music, a lot Daisy Jones in the six, I was like,
Kaitlin (00:38)
I didn't see that was a thing and I am dead.
Stephanie (00:46)
I was like, I bet you Stephanie Iber is gonna win because she already hit solo catcher card. Didn't even know it was a thing. Wow. It's a full album. Let's wrap it up for the people, okay? We're came in at the bottom. Let's call it a day. We set up for the 20th. Woo woo! Our plans are pumped. 20th. Thank you, 20th. Thank you to everyone who has been listening and liking and sharing and reading our news. We are so, so grateful to you.
Molly Galler (00:46)
I bet you Stephanie either is gonna order this or has already hit sold at Descartes.
Kaitlin (00:49)
Stephanie either is gonna have it or has already sold it. Didn't even know it was a thing. Wow, wow. It's a fallout. Let's write down the number of people that are being working on that. So we'll have to have two. 20. Woo hoo! A plan is a plan. 20. We did 20. Thank you. That was my first one. I'm glad you showed up and you did. I was so excited to be able to do this. And we.
Molly Galler (00:58)
Let's back it up a hair for the people, okay? We came in hot on this. Welcome to episode 20 of Plans Are Booked, 20. Thank you. Thank you to everyone who has been listening and liking and sharing and leaving reviews. We are so, so grateful to you. And we have a packed conversation for you today, starting with the Idea of You movie trailer. I'm, yes, I'm sorry that I march in. This is how it goes.
Stephanie (01:15)
And we have to... no, conversation. Starting with the idea of moving forward. I'm... yes. I... sorry that I barged in. This is how I feel about it. The trailer came out. Nicholas Balatsean... I'm sorry. I don't mean to, like... That's what I'm looking for. Degreed him, basically. But, like, objectified. He's such a piece. Like, he's so...
Kaitlin (01:24)
I'm sorry that I barged in. This is how I feel about it. The trailer came out. Nicholas Galatzine. I'm sorry. I don't mean to like, what's the word I'm looking for? Degrade him basically, but like what a piece. He's such a piece. Like he's so gorgeous in the trailer.
Molly Galler (01:29)
The trailer came out. Nicholas Gallatin... I'm sorry, so I don't mean to, like... Let's see what I'm looking for. Are you about to find me? Degrade him, basically. But, like, he's such a piece. He's such a piece. Like, he's so gorgeous in the trailer. He's perfect for the movie. Like, 100%. Also, we knew Anne had the way we could work. Like, we argued. But, like, Nicholas Gallatin, like... The app...
Stephanie (01:45)
gorgeous in the trailer. He's perfect for the movie. Like, 100%. Also, we knew Anne Hathaway was going to be perfect. Like, we already knew. But like, Nick Mischalatine, like, to accent the way they dress him, he's singing in it, and he's smothered. The whole thing is just ridiculous. So, from the go, you're like, okay, we've got something on our hands here. But as I'm watching the trailer... What time out? How many times have you watched it so far? Three times.
Kaitlin (01:47)
he's perfect for the movie, like 100%. Also, we knew Anne Hathaway was going to be perfect. We already knew, but Nicholas Gallatin, the accent, the way they dressed him, he's singing in it. He's smoldering. The whole thing is just ridiculous. So from the go, you're like, okay, we've got something on our hands here. But as I'm watching the trailer...
Molly Galler (01:57)
the way they dressed him, he's singing in it, and he's smoldering, the whole thing was just ridiculous. So from the go, you're like, okay, we've got something on our hands here. But as I'm watching the trailer, how many times have you watched it so far? Three times. Same. Only twice. So I'm just gonna say, I watched it, and I was like, this looks like such a fun movie.
Kaitlin (02:13)
three times.
Okay, so you don't have to be ashamed. So I'm just gonna say, I watched it and I was like, this looks like such a fun movie. And the book is like not necessarily a fun book. Like we all know what the ending is. And yeah, and then I went on Twitter and people were like, people were like, this looks awesome. And
Stephanie (02:19)
So, I'm just gonna say, I watched it and I was like, this looks like something fun. And the book is like, not necessarily a fun book. Like we all know that. It broke my heart. Yeah, and then I went on Twitter and people were like, people were like, this looks awesome and not like the book. Like everybody was, everybody that went to the book was like, what is this? And then my friend Steph.
Molly Galler (02:28)
And the book is like not necessarily a fun book. Like we all know what the ending is. And it broke my heart. Yeah, and then I was on Twitter. People were like, this book's awesome. And not the ending. Like everything in that book is like, what is this? And then my friend Seth, who listens to my story, who listens to my story, who's been reading the book, who's been watching it, is like.
Kaitlin (02:43)
not like the book. Everybody that read the book was like, what is this? And then my friend Steph, who listens, well, she maybe listens to the podcast, but she's been reading the books that we've been suggesting, is halfway through the idea of you right now, because she knew it was on our list and she said it sounded interesting to her. And she saw the trailer and she goes, they don't even meet the same way. In the trailer, that's already different.
Stephanie (02:49)
who listens while she's reading the books she's been reading the books that we've been suggesting is like halfway through the idea of the story because she knows it's on her chest and she's got a ton of things in her and she saw the trailer and she wants to nail it and read it at the same time like in the trailer that felt completely different and then I said I feel like the daughter is the one that's going to be in the movie I will say we don't necessarily know what the movie is going to be like because of the trailer
Kaitlin (03:08)
And then I said, I feel like the daughter isn't even going to be an issue in the movie.
Stephanie (03:19)
Trailers can be misleading, but on that same token, the book is all about the secrecy, the hiding, the like not telling the daughter, trying to figure out how she's going to tell the daughter, putting off telling the daughter, hiding from paparazzi, and instead in the trailer, the paparazzi are there from the get-go.
Kaitlin (03:38)
That is correct. So people who read the book are like WTF and people who haven't read the book are like this looks freaking awesome. And there's no in between at all.
Stephanie (03:40)
So, when we wrote the book, our like, the T.F. and people who have read the book are like, this is pretty awesome. And so, I think... Also, her best friend is... I don't think she's part of it. If you saw the sign for the gallery, isn't the gallery's name there two last names together? Yeah, there's a name for that. Correct. And there was no image of her. I did not see the best friend.
Molly Galler (03:55)
for the gallery? Isn't the gallery standard to, uh, this better? Yeah, it is, and it's not in the trailer. Okay. And there was an ultimate surprise, and that's the best friend. I think this is what I'm talking about. I... We have been enjoying it for years. It's fun to watch. Um, yeah. So I was the only one who thought of all of this. I was part of the whole example of this, but yes, he's gonna have to move the app.
Kaitlin (04:06)
And this is where I started drinking. We have drinks because it's the 20th. Cheers. Yeah, so I had to sit on this all day. All day I had to sit on this. I have a friend that's going to be at South by Southwest. He's going to go to the after party for it. I said, are you going to go see the movie? He said no. I said, okay, I didn't really know what to say. What am I going to say? Yeah, you shouldn't.
Stephanie (04:11)
Sláinte va.
Yeah, so, I don't know if it's all that I said on this. I'm sorry. I said, are you gonna receive it from me? He said no. I said, okay, I didn't know that. I just wanted to say yes, you shouldn't. You're a huge, that was just a weird idea. So I just went back to the home, and then I decided to go back from it, and it was nice to do this back to the little exoriga. So like, I'm gonna go back in there. Like, maybe this should have been a good idea, or a good model.
Molly Galler (04:26)
I said, okay, I didn't have anything to say. I wanted to say, yeah, you're huge. That won't be able to do anything with your L.O. So I just looked at the one, and then I looked at the other one, and then the product, and then I think I got my track for the video. So like, the little one had to be on the script. Like, we should have not been in the air in the long run, so. My take, I haven't watched a third time, but my take is that.
Kaitlin (04:29)
you're a dude, you should definitely go see the idea of you, you're gonna love it. So I just like left it alone and then I sent him the trailer with no comment today and he was like, okay, this actually looks pretty good. So like they really might have something on their hands here. Like maybe it should have gone to the movie theater is all I'm gonna say.
Stephanie (04:47)
I have a question for you, I have a question for you. It seems like the movie is a bit of a challenge as the only scene made. Like you did in the step, you come back and you're saying about the sequence with the secrecy and the hiding and hoping that it turns out what you're doing. In the trailer, it's an issue, it's the age gap. Not the fact that she's worried about her career and she has a family
Molly Galler (04:50)
It seems like they leaned into the age difference as the illicit thing. Like to Steph, come back to what you were saying about in the book, it's so much about the secrecy and the hiding and hoping nobody finds out what they're doing. In the trailer, it looks like the issue is the age gap, not the fact that she's worried about her career or what's going to happen with her daughter and that is what they decided to center it around, which I think if that turns out to be right, is really going to change the whole tone of the story. The other thing.
Stephanie (05:13)
I think if that turns out to be right, is there really gonna change the way it's going with the story? The other thing I was pretty impressed with was like, I think we're gonna have a good story and we're just gonna let people know. And even the same thing with this, and all the other stories we're gonna set up for people to listen to. When I went to the fan office, I was like, oh, this works. I feel excited about the idea of seeing that on screen to get a whole new world that it turns out to be. And so like, whoever's in the writers room,
Molly Galler (05:20)
I was worried about before even pressing play was like, are they really gonna have chemistry? Like, I just don't know. And even though we'd seen some of the still photos from the set, I just didn't know. But when I watched the trailer, I was like, oh, this works. Like, I feel excited about the idea of seeing them on screen together for the whole arc, whatever it turns out to be. And I also think whoever was in that writer's room, definitely was a boy band fan growing up because that piece of it seems extremely accurate.
Stephanie (05:43)
definitely wasn't the way they planned it. But you guys have passed. It's not true. August Moon has her own Instagram. I don't know if you've gone on it. Oh, I have. OK. Well, I think that's really good, because now, in the way that the foundation for this Instagram is taking them, well, it just reminds me of how much we've done. And, you know, I'm saying it's awesome. Mm-hmm.
Molly Galler (05:51)
Oh, I have.
Kaitlin (05:53)
Wow, you guys are, you've been holding out your way ahead. Soundtrack purchased Instagram, fake band followed. Whoa.
Molly Galler (06:00)
It just reminded me of the promo for Daisy Jones and I couldn't get enough of that. I was like, I want to see what the vinyl record looks like. I want to follow every single thing they're doing. They treated it like it was a real band and that's obviously the same treatment that this is getting, which I think is freaking brilliant.
Kaitlin (06:16)
I, yeah. Yep. Well, I'm gonna enjoy the movie and pretend that the book just never existed is I think how I'm gonna play it. I think I'll enjoy it the most that way. And also I was not like a super fan of the book. So I'm not gonna, it's not like I had my heart set on something. You know what I mean? Now, the other thing I will say is.
Stephanie (06:19)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, I'm going to work with me and pretend that the folks who's never existed is by the power of the play. I think I'll intrude the most that way. And also, I'm not going to be able to forget a book. So it's not like I have the heart to tell them something. You know what I mean? No. Yeah. The other thing I would say is,
I forget the person was, I should have paid more attention to give them credit, but somebody on Twitter was like, they repeated the trailer and they were like, if this trailer has the ending from the book, that's not going to work for me. Because this trailer seems to go on and on and if it's going to go on and on and on and it better be on and on and it better not somehow pivot to the ending from the book because that was not what it made.
Kaitlin (06:41)
I forget who the person was. I should have paid more attention to give them credit. But somebody on Twitter was like, they retweeted the trailer. And they were like, if this trailer has the ending from the book, that's not going to work for me. Because this trailer seems like a romcom. And if I'm going to go watch a romcom, then it better be a romcom. And it better not somehow like pivot to the ending from the book because that will not work for me.
Stephanie (07:11)
I'm going to have to go into it as them being two separate things. I mean, the book, I absolutely loved. I mean, I read it twice. I reread it before we recorded the episode about it. It broke my heart, but it was the perfect ending for the book. And also, I didn't picture Anne or Nicholas while I was reading the book. But I think that this can be a separate thing where we can have...
Molly Galler (07:19)
I have a video of it and I'm going to show you some of it before we move on to the video about it. It's a book that I've already written, but it was the first time I read it. And this, and also I took a picture of it and it was while it was in the book. But I think that this is a separate thing where we have different similar points and if it deviates from the book, then that doesn't keep it playing in the public book.
Kaitlin (07:29)
And also I took a picture and learned it was while I was reading the book. So that's good. But this could be a time of day where we have different, similar works. And if it's a book, then that's a particularly common focus. It's just like a different thing. I feel like it helps to think of the notes inside the book. Because it goes to like, this is the number.
Stephanie (07:39)
different but similar feelings. And if it deviates from the book, then that doesn't take away from how good the book is. It's just like a different thing.
Molly Galler (07:49)
I feel like it helps to think of it as like inspired by as opposed to like this is the film version of the idea of you. It's like this is a movie inspired by the book The Idea of You. And I feel like if we approach it from that vantage point we won't be as enraged if they've changed like absolutely everything about it.
Stephanie (07:54)
Mm hmm. I mean, I'm still planning to be home that entire first week and watch it once a day.
Kaitlin (07:58)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. This is inspired by the book. Yeah. And I feel like he's going to rage it from that day because he has the variation which he was like absolutely over the top. I mean, don't plan for the whole entire first week and watch it once it ends. Normal. That sounds normal for you. I also, if you haven't seen Purple Hearts and you're just discovering Nicholas Galatine now, watch Purple Hearts because he...
Molly Galler (08:22)
Also, we have a few other artists in the industry. Some of them are from Los Angeles and now a lot of people are, because he's a huge hero that you know already. There are a few artists, he's a huge hero now. Yeah, perfect. Do you two, wait, wanna talk about his new show that you've been fan-girling over? Yeah, there's a lot of people. It's not coming out, but you asked me if I had to. You came up on Starz right? Very important. It's on Starz, I appreciate it. Is it? I'm gonna...
Stephanie (08:22)
So, you have some purple parts of your jumps. Is there anything you can post out now? Watch the bar, because he's here to hold up. If you don't already. There's a lot of stuff he's saying. You should go back and watch everything. Um, the other thing...
Kaitlin (08:27)
He's you're gonna love him if you don't already Yeah, for sure the other thing
Yeah, but I haven't watched it. You can't get it on stars right now. Mary and George. It's on stars. I'm pretty sure. I can look into that for you, but I, I think that I'm right, but I'm not sure. Um, and that's the show that he's in with Julianne Moore and it's supposed to be awesome and it.
Stephanie (08:39)
It's not coming out in the US, I think until April. I think it's on Starz. It's very close. It's on Starz pretty close. Is it? On Starz. I thought US Starz didn't start until April. If that's not true, then I'm staying up very late tonight. I have to look into that for you. Okay. I think that I'm very close.
And that's like my favorite period. So
Kaitlin (09:08)
some, there was a, I forget if it was Rolling Stone magazine or another magazine, but they called it, they said, Juliette Dora was delicious in it and that it's a raucous good time. Yeah, it was hilarious. Because she basically pimps her son out to like stay within the royal family. That's like the whole premise of the show. And she pimps him out to like other men and he's not gay. And it's like, that's like the scandal and the like, so that's him. That's who he's playing in that one.
Molly Galler (09:13)
They said julienne or it was delicious in it. And we had to go on this one time. Whoa. Yeah, it was delicious. Because she was the best person out there staying with the oil pan for that particular drama for the show. And she was out there on her bed with the hothead. And that's what this angle of work. So that's them. It was a great result. But what I was going to say is I can call them, either the producer or the actor music. She was the producer for a bunch of your movies.
Stephanie (09:30)
And it's like, that's like the scandal of the life. So that's kind of a piece playing out. But what I was gonna say is I could follow a music producer for Apple Music. She produces a bunch of her podcasts and a lot of her content. And she's now running a book tour and she posted the trailers. And I was like, well, you're already asking me, I don't know if you want me to talk to you about this. And this is about to be on my entire personality. Because I think she's like, boring as hell. So I wrote her a book and I would play it
Kaitlin (09:37)
But what I was going to say is I follow a music producer for Apple Music. She produces a bunch of their podcasts and a lot of their content. And she's never read the book before. And she posted the trailer and was like, before you ask me, I already ordered the book and this is about to become my entire personality. Because I think she's like 41. And I wrote her a note and I was like, don't let me get bangs.
Molly Galler (09:44)
and she's been in the vlog for a while now. And she's now been in both of her post-trailers with the whole right now, the I on the board. This is about to become my entire brutality because she's like the only one. You're so rude to me. I'm not rude to no one. I'm so rude. I feel like that's a lot. You know, it's really weird. I agree. And she's just like out there with fans for you.
Stephanie (10:00)
I'm so happy. Because I'm feeling like I've been watching like 30, 30 hours a week. And she was just like out there in the night of 40 hours with this guy that like, I'm off this place. I'm not feeling up and out. We're in the college career and we're finally falling off. And I'm like this is going to be fun and I'm just going to imagine like weird. I'm just pretty confident.
Kaitlin (10:03)
Because I feel like I'm gonna watch I'm like turning 39 in like two weeks and she's just like out there like playing a 40 year old making out with this guy that like I've loved him for like how long have we loved him now like two or three years we've been like following his career and he's like finally blowing up and I'm like oh my god this is gonna become
Molly Galler (10:11)
I was the guy that I evolved into. I was born and grew up in Dallas. It was a really long way from all my careers and I applied to all of the clubs. And I'm like, this is it. Oh my God, we didn't even mention red, white, and royal blue. We just didn't even mention it. It's pretty obvious. Yeah. I was like, wait, we've seen even more things. Why is there a gaping hole in that list? That's it.
Kaitlin (10:26)
Oh yeah, he's freaking awesome in it. He's so good in it. He's great.
Stephanie (10:29)
He's so, he's great. I was just like, he's just smart. He's just smart.
Oh, well, when I was in the press, the students out there loved this map. They really loved it and that. I was like, I'm not gonna post it. It was like, you know, you sit in a room and you're just sitting there like, I was thinking about it. At least I'm growing more right now. But it's true. That's right. The other single that I have on the spot, I have three. I think that all of them are important to just separate it a little bit. Yeah. And I also just think about it.
Kaitlin (10:36)
Oh, well, when I was telling Chris, who's going to be at South by Southwest about it, like before the trailer came out, I was like, yeah, and the guy can actually sing. He was like, you know, in Cinderella with Camila Cabello. I was like, Wow, Caitlin, you sound really cool right now. But it's true. He can sing. He has a single that I have on Spotify. It's great. I think we're all going to enjoy it if we just separate it a little bit from the book, I think.
Molly Galler (10:46)
You know, it's in the whole movie. I was like, OK, that's awesome. I was like, wow, this is kind of a great recording. But.
that I have on my screen. I can call and get separated from, you know. I also am just thinking about how the steam level in the book quite high. And I'm just feeling like based on the trailer, that is not what we're gonna wind up seeing.
Stephanie (11:05)
the scene where you're like, and I'm just, it's just like, I'm gonna kiss him. What would I do? It doesn't break at all. I mean, the little like 10 second clip where he's playing the piano and then she's in his lap and trying not to kiss him, I was like, yeah, give me more of that. I think it's gonna be good. She jumps into his, that yes, but did you see towards the end, she like,
Kaitlin (11:13)
It is rated R.
Molly Galler (11:27)
That was a great clip. And the pushing up against the wall in the alley. I saw it all. I saw all those moments and I was like, are we getting like the PG version for the trailer? And there's gonna be more when we really watch it. Also, it is going straight to prime video, meaning at home.
Stephanie (11:35)
catapults across the room into his arms.
Mm-hmm.
Molly Galler (11:52)
which I feel like probably they could get away with more than if they decided to do a theater release. I mean not that the rating changes, I just think in terms of like a studio head being like how risky is this?
Stephanie (11:56)
I mean, I don't think it was just something like a studio or anything like that. How would you see this as? Well, except that Red, White, and Royal Blue is a... it's a saucy book and it was not so saucy on Prime. I mean... I think that it can't be done the way it is going to go with how it was on this one. True. I really hope. I think she's going to be like, this is not what it was going to be for. You said it. You know what? And I'm here on...
Kaitlin (12:12)
I don't think that Anne Hathaway is going to go half-assed on this one. I really don't. I think she's going to be like, this is for all the people in their 40s that are coming into their own and I'm doing it and you're all going to be jealous of me. Watch.
Stephanie (12:24)
and all you don't let me watch. Also, I can't remember, but I've heard more people say, you know, it's like Gaby, and as a producer, I mean, which I didn't know at first. I feel like she also, like, I don't know if it's like full female empowerment, or the pleasure of everything, which is just, that's who she is. Correct.
Molly Galler (12:27)
Also, I can't remember, I think we were all together when we learned or realized that Gabrielle Union is a producer on this, which I didn't know at first. I feel like she also would be like, yes, go in the direction of full female empowerment, like pleasure, everything. She's just, that's the type of person she is.
Kaitlin (12:43)
That's correct. I just, or this is really kind of funny, but at lunch today, I was talking about this with my coworkers, which includes my brother, and, um, we were talking about the trailer and whatever, and you know, things come up at lunch and, um, he was just kind of laughing and he was like,
Stephanie (12:46)
I just sort of, this is really kind of funny for that lunch. Today I was talking about this with my co-worker, which includes my brother. And we were talking about trail and things like that. Thanks for the lunch. And, um.
Kaitlin (13:05)
He's like, of course there's a movie where it's like about one direction and some desperate person like wrote this on the internet and then it became like a movie, like of course this happened. And I was like, yeah, I was like, you know, it's kind of funny. If you think about like, if somebody pitched this movie with opposite gender roles, it would not get made. So if the singer was like a Taylor Swift and like a 14 year old girl's dad goes to Coachella and then ends up dating the Taylor Swift character, like studio execs would be like, hmm.
Stephanie (13:33)
I'm really excited for May 2nd. That's all I'm going to say.
Kaitlin (13:35)
that's, we're not making that. We've already seen that happen in real life. We're good. We don't need it. But like Anne Hathaway is like, I'm making this movie. And I really don't think that she's going to go any more than full tilt and any less than full tilt as a result.
It should be good. This isn't why we came together today. We came together to talk about graphic novels and to have Molly open her special surprise wrapped book that she got at the bougie bookstore.
Stephanie (14:00)
This is a money-making
Molly Galler (14:00)
It should be good. This isn't what we came here to do. We came here to photographic office and to talk to all the people. Our special surprise, we've been able to put together a few books over.
So for a while now, I've been following this account, the Bougie Bookstore, and if you guys follow us on Instagram, you've seen a bunch of their content. And I'm actually set foot in it, and I was like, I gotta do this, I gotta get there. Everything's pink, they're huge Swifties. I was like, I just have to experience this in person. It's in a town called Norwood, Massachusetts, if you're not local to here. It's like 25, 30 minutes south of Boston. And it is in this.
like mill building basically that was redone as this incredible shopping mecca for those who have been to Crompton Collective and Worcester Mass. It's very similar, like stalls with different vendors, a lot of vintage stuff. So the bookstore is inside of there. They have blind date books which has become my new obsession. Like every bookstore that I go to I see these wrapped books and I'm just like enamored by them. I want to see what the descriptions are, I want to see how they're degraded. All the ones in this bookstore are wrapped in pink paper.
bedazzled. The one that I purchased happens to have like beautiful calligraphy, handwriting, and hearts drawn on them, but there were ones with like legitimate like gems and jewels and glitter. It's just obvious that the people that run this bookstore care deeply and are big readers and I feel like would be friends with this podcast. Hopefully someday we could have them on. So I looked at every single one they had on this huge rotating rack. And in the end I picked one that says, uh, contemporary romance.
an influencer who gets canceled, goes to work at her uncle's business, small town vibes, and a closed door romance.
Kaitlin (15:40)
goes to work or close business, small to tiny companies, and it goes toward wellness. I don't think I've heard that thought in a long time. People can share their experience before I unpack it. People share your background with what people say that you are willing to do. What do you want me to do? I want to share what you have to say. I think it's called Famous for a Living by Melissa Ferguson. Have a good one.
Stephanie (15:45)
in a clue in the comments. I don't think I've heard of that plot in any of the books I know of.
Molly Galler (15:52)
Caitlin thinks she might know what it is before I unwrap it. Do you want to share your guess or you want me to unwrap it and then say if you were correct?
Stephanie (16:00)
What do you want me to do? I want to hear what you want me to do. I think it's more about the genius for everything. I'm Melissa Preston. Haven't heard of that.
Molly Galler (16:01)
I want to hear what you think it is.
Okay here we go.
Stephanie (16:13)
No, what's happening?
Kaitlin (16:13)
None of us have the fake nails to do the TikTok click clack on the whatever.
Molly Galler (16:13)
Oh.
Yeah, sorry guys, no ASMR nail opening, just my actual nails.
Okay.
Stephanie (16:28)
This one is called... .. Oh my... ..
Molly Galler (16:28)
This book is called, oh careful, tape on the cover. Oh my, Kaitlin? Did it? Yes. I mean the cover too.
Kaitlin (16:34)
Katelyn? Did it! Yes!
Stephanie (16:38)
I mean the cover is doing it for me.
Molly Galler (16:42)
Yeah, I don't know all these people, but I think like her uncle always like she's trying to remember. Okay, I'm just going to read you the first paragraph of the back. When her business partner is accused of serious financial crimes, superstar influencer Kat Cranwell, an engineered marvel of beauty, energy and fun falls from her penthouse perch desperate to get away from online trolls and paparazzi documenting her disgrace. Kat accepts her uncle's offer to work with him.
Kaitlin (16:42)
Yeah, I don't know all the details about this book, but I think like her uncle owns something in the woods and she works for him and then this lumberjack type dude is there.
Stephanie (16:47)
It looks like Maine.
Molly Galler (17:12)
in Canary National Park, Montana, about as far from her life as she's known it.
Kaitlin (17:17)
I mean, this basically sounds like if that chick from Glossier was forced to hide in the woods and her uncles whatever and met a guy. So this is perfect for you. Yeah, I mean, that's like got Molly written all over it.
Stephanie (17:18)
I was surprised that I was able to get a head start on my bossy egg. I was forced to write a report to the police, but I'm a corrupt and I'm not a guy. So this perfect reality, I'm a leathery piece, no one believes me. I mean that's like, I'm all your college friends. I was talking to my friend, and she said something to me, she said she was just curious about how I got this from you. And I saw this from you, and I was like, oh my god. And so like, Steph liked the cover, and like, that's the cover, and I was like, oh my god.
Molly Galler (17:23)
I didn't really think about it. That was whatever. So this is perfect. Will I be reading this? Hell to the yes. I was delighted. I just feel like sometimes you see the descriptions and they're very fun to read but like nothing really speaks to you. And I saw this one and I was like, oh my god.
Kaitlin (17:42)
But see, like Steph liked the cover and like that's a cover that I'm like, oh my god, I have to bring this up to the register. It's like, could I be any more clear? Yeah, here I, are you wondering if I'm single? Because I am. Like that's, like that's what these covers say to me. And so like.
Molly Galler (17:46)
like that's a common thing. I think that was weird. It's like, could it be in here? Are you wondering? I don't know. Like, that's, that's a dark room. And so I was like, I would love.
Kaitlin (18:02)
I would love to just buy based on a description because that is one scenario where I'm like on a level of like one to 20 like how bad is this on the like embarrassing cat lady scale.
Stephanie (18:08)
I'm just wondering how bad it is on the internet. I'm embarrassed by the fact that you can't really be proud. I just have to look up to books for something to come with. So you can start it in a while. I know I have to register. Because even in the history, I've seen one of the active pages that I've been on. I'm into it, and I'm very proud. I have a problem with it. Well, I think we should do a group trip to the Blue Sheep on tour in the future. That would be lovely. I just never wanted to do that.
Molly Galler (18:13)
I do think that the wrapped books are such a good conversation starter in line or at the register because like even the people who work at the store unless they're the one who wrapped it they don't even know what it is
Kaitlin (18:23)
I'm into it. I'm very into it. I've never bought one before.
Molly Galler (18:26)
Well, I think we should do a group trip to the bougie bookstore in the future. It is incredibly fun. Yeah. The Swifty stuff is amazing. Like I just feel that the women that own this place are kindred spirits to us. And they actually had the Taylor Swift version of the glass cups that I got you. The ones that say books are my love language. They also make ones where it's spines of books and they did the book spines as if they were all of her albums.
Stephanie (18:33)
stuff is amazing. Like I just love this place. They actually have the Taylor Swift version of the glass cups that I got. Mm hmm. Books are also, they also have books with signs and they did the book as if they were on a book and they saw it. Oh, I've seen that. That's awesome.
Kaitlin (18:54)
I'm very into that. I've seen that too. That's awesome.
Molly Galler (18:56)
and they saw it there.
Stephanie (19:02)
So for our 20th episode, we decided to, similar to the cookbooks episode, do a short book as opposed to an author or a particular book. And we are talking about graphic novels, which I don't think that we all except we read that many graphic novels, both of our books. I mean, I read Mouse and Mouse 2 in school, and that was pretty much it. Yep.
Kaitlin (19:02)
Um, so for our 20th episode, we decided to, similar to the cookbooks episode, do a genre as opposed to an author or a particular book, and we are chatting about graphic novels, which I don't think that Molly and Steph read that many graphic novels before, maybe.
Yep.
Molly Galler (19:31)
The one I read for homework for this episode was my very first one.
Kaitlin (19:34)
Oh wow! Whoa! I did not know that. I thought you had read Mouse. Okay. So, I love graphic novels. I definitely got more into them when I became a teacher because being a middle school English teacher, there are a lot of kids that like don't really like to read. They've got turned off from reading. They don't get a lot of choice over what they read.
Stephanie (19:38)
That's amazing.
Molly Galler (19:39)
Okay, so I have to drop. I need to go back.
Kaitlin (19:58)
And so reading becomes a chore that they don't enjoy and it's really sad. And they basically see it as like a task or a punishment as opposed to like this joyous awesome thing and graphic novels and like manga and like all of that. Anything that's like more visual and like establishes like a cool world of some sort and is like less text is like really up the alley of a lot of middle school or like adolescent non-readers.
And so I have gotten back into them as a teacher. And then I've also taken some classes where they're like the graphic novel genre is very diverse. So if you're looking to get like more voices in your classroom, like there's definitely a ton of diverse authors that are getting published in the graphic novel world. So that's like one venue that you can take. And there's just been a lot of cool like memoirs and
good coming of age stories, obviously Heartstopper is like one that everybody knows right now. I feel like there's, I don't know if I would call it a resurrection, but I just feel like there are a ton of good graphic novels right now being published in the last couple years. I have really enjoyed kind of getting back into it and seeing what people can do with it.
and the way that they can tell really powerful stories in concise ways that are mainly dialogue. I think it's a really cool way to get some conversation started about things that you might not want to read a 400 page book about, but you might be willing to dive in via a graphic novel. So yeah, and a bunch of them are like...
becoming TV shows and movies. And it's really cool because I think one of the really fascinating things about graphic novels is, especially with Heartstopper, if you read the graphic novels and watch the show, you can see how each of the panels basically is set up for a movie scene perfectly. Like, when you adapt a book into a movie, you draw out all the scenes and they have them plastered. They've storyboards like all over the place and the storyboards are already made. So
I think we're going to start seeing more and more of them being adapted into film and TV shows and I think it's going to be awesome. What did you guys read?
Stephanie (22:27)
I read into sittings good talk by Mira Jacob. I'm going to pass this to Molly afterwards because I think she would love it. It
It made me laugh. It also made me cry. It is a beautiful sort of memoir broken down into conversations she has with her son. Mira is Indian, her husband is Jewish, and it takes place prior to 2016. So her son is coming to her asking questions about racism. You know,
things he's overheard them talk about and she draws the images of her her husband and her kid don't really change but they are backlit by scene scenes of New York City which are beautiful and some of them repeat it's also her story
being the only Indian family, or I think, actually, I think they were one of three in their town. And it's just beautiful. And also the questions from her son are just like stereotypical kid questions. Like there's a whole bit in there about knock knock jokes because he's trying to understand knock knock jokes. It's just, it's innocent. It's...
Um, it hurts you. It like cuts to the bone. Um, I, I wanted to just like hug this whole family. There's a lot of tough conversations in here, but it's, it's beautifully done. Um, and I feel like any age, even like a parent reading this to the kid, I feel like would be fantastic to have the kids sort of understand the questions. Maybe they're asking themselves. Um, so yeah, this was sort of like a political one. Um,
but also I don't remember the one that Molly read, even though I read it.
Molly Galler (24:33)
Okay so the one I read is called Laura Dean keeps breaking up with me. Before I even opened it I was like I'm gonna love this because this is obviously a high school romance I just knew it. Visually the book is all shades of white, black, gray and then this like it's not right to call it hot pink what color would you call this? Okay so it's this pinky color.
Kaitlin (24:53)
Like a coral or salmon? Yeah. So it's this pink color. And as we've learned, it's actually used to express certain emotions, to show that it's a little bit of joy when it's possibly because that color is kind of overblown and it's just a little bit of a
Stephanie (24:53)
Yeah.
Molly Galler (25:01)
that color is used to express certain emotions, to show things that are like excited or joyful, and also things that are like overwhelming. And even though I was reading the dialogue and loving it and completely hooked, I was also like, oh my god, like the visual meaning behind the color choices in this thing. I almost feel like I need to read it again and only look, like not read the words, just look at the illustrations and why they chose things that they chose. To your earlier point about
Stephanie (25:13)
I was like, oh my god, the visual meaning behind the color choices in this thing. And I was like, what are you doing? I don't need the book. Not read the words, just look at the illustrations and why they chose the things that they chose. So you're filling it out, like, excessively to figure out what's the most heavy topics. This is possibly why I'm writing this.
Molly Galler (25:29)
like accessibility to bigger or more heavy topics. This is mostly about a breakup, but it's also about like gay and lesbian relationships. There's someone who's deciding whether or not to get an abortion. They're like pretty serious topics in here and they kind of like sneak in. You sort of like don't even realize that it's happening because it's just like beautiful and so fun to read. And then there was one page that I took a picture of in case I couldn't find it again, but I just did find it.
that says the hardest part of all of this, aside from the astounding fact that being dumped feels like food poisoning, is the fact that I'm always losing a person who was just there. Like she's gone, but she's not gone. I can still smell her deodorant on my sheets. I was like, just kill me. Like I just, I feel like it's the tiniest little text bubble, but full of like so much emotion and teen angst. And I just couldn't get over how like profound it felt, even though
Kaitlin (26:04)
I always lose a person who's just there, but she's gone. But she's not coming. I can still smell her, you know, when I'm not with her. She's like, just come. Like, I feel like it's the tiniest of all, but like so much emotion in my penis. And I just couldn't get over her hand-holding, like profound felt, even though visually it's kind of like joyful and bouncy, like all of it.
Molly Galler (26:27)
visually it's kind of like joyful and bouncy and all over the place. It definitely made me want to read more and I read this entire thing in under an hour like I couldn't stop I just wanted to know what was gonna happen.
Stephanie (26:32)
It definitely wasn't up to me. And I went through the whole thing, but not right now. I couldn't stop. I just wanted to talk to you. And I'm so grateful that you just described that, because I think that's all about people's skills. And when you first read the graphic novel, you're saying it's a good thing.
Kaitlin (26:41)
And I think that it's so cool the way that you just described that because I think that that's how a lot of people feel when they first read a graphic novel is like, like you're taking everything in. Like you're, it's not, it's so unusual with a book to get visuals for grownup feelings. You don't get that. It doesn't happen with picture books.
Stephanie (26:51)
Like, you're taking everything in. It's not... It's so unusual with a book to get visuals from your own feelings. You don't get that. It doesn't happen in picture books. For kids, it's like these stories, there's more. It's illustrated, and that makes a lot of sense. But things aren't illustrated when you're an adult. And so to have these big, angsty moments, or these really big conversations about raising your son,
Kaitlin (27:04)
for kids, it's like these stories and there's a moral and it's illustrated and that makes a lot of sense. But things aren't illustrated when you're an adult. And so to have these big, angsty moments or these really big conversations about race with your son and his identity and all of those things, and then to have it basically animated for you as you're reading it packs such a punch. But when kids first start reading graphic novels, they can't articulate that yet.
Stephanie (27:21)
and all of those things that make that habit like basically empty in the core, as we said, packed such a punch, but like it's first part recap, not this, it can't articulate that yet. So it was really cool to hear you say how you were.
Kaitlin (27:34)
So it was really cool to hear you say how you were encountering it and experiencing it, because I don't know, I don't, you're the first adult I know that had not read one before. So that was actually really cool and I wasn't expecting that. These are all my books. So I've read a lot of them, but I also brought a couple of other ones. I mean, I could talk about Heartstopper all day, but I'm not going to.
Stephanie (27:39)
in challenge or any experience in it because I don't know. You're the first adult I know that I've not read enough to care. So that was really cool. I was expecting that. These are all my books. So I hold them, but I'm so proud of these other books. I mean, I can talk about my son, but I can talk about my family.
Molly Galler (27:53)
These are all my friends. So I agree with that. But I have to think about it. That's my first part. It's just how I want to make sure that I don't have to do the piano.
Kaitlin (28:00)
It's powerful. It doesn't have, I feel, as much wording as other ones do. The paneling is really cool. She's been able to make five volumes of the same love story. It's really compelling. The friendships are awesome, et cetera, et cetera. So good, read it, do it, all of it. I just read a new one called Lunar New Year Love Story. I have a friend who, I won't say who it is, but I have a friend.
Stephanie (28:30)
who texted me and said I saw this book in a bookshop window and thought what if it was covered? And I had the book at work the other day and I hadn't finished it yet and was sitting on my desk and my brother walked right in front of me and goes, what's that about? What if I'm feeling covered? Yeah, disagree. That's beautiful. So, the book was very polarized but it's very bright. It's like it shows a way of
Kaitlin (28:30)
who texted me and said, I saw this book in a bookshop window and thought, what a hideous cover. I had this book at work the other day because I hadn't finished it yet and was sitting on my desk and my brother walked by and he goes, what's that about? What an appealing cover. This cover apparently is very polarizing, but it's very bright. It shows a boy and a
Molly Galler (28:36)
And I have the book at work today, but I haven't finished yet. I just have my desk and my brother's desk and my clothes. Once that is done, I'm gonna go to my apartment. Yeah, so this is, so this is the first entry in the book. It's three-four, right? But at every point, it's like, it shows a boy called Agent. It has a swirling red, like mystical ghost. Mm-hmm. It's a little bit of a delusion.
Stephanie (29:00)
like mystical ghosts. I would say constellations. Oh yeah, I was gonna say that, but I don't know if I'm going to like constellations. So you know what I'm saying about it. It's a couple of pink and red, very nice, and the people in this book meet each other because they're looking at each other's minds, and some of them are the enemies, and some of them are trying to, and some of them are happy, and then all of them.
Kaitlin (29:00)
like mystical ghosty swirls. Okay, that's not what it is and I know that, so I can't really say that, but it's like purple and pink and red and it's very vibrant. And the people in this book meet each other because they're learning how to do lion dancing and.
Molly Galler (29:08)
It's not only about the tax avoidance. So here in the South, it's like probably in your head, and it's very valid in the US. The people in the public community gather as they look at the life of the continent. And some of the people in the community say, well, how are you going to do this?
Kaitlin (29:24)
Some of the kids are Vietnamese and some of them are Chinese and some of them are Korean and they're all kind of coming together to do this like lunar new year dance thing that they can do at festivals. They do it at people's weddings. They do it at all sorts of like big Asian community events. And they're all in high school and this girl ends up liking a boy and kind of in the same vein of Laura Dean keeps breaking up with me. She kind of ends up.
liking this boy that's like kind of a player and he never really like commits to being her boyfriend and she's always just kind of like out in the lurch about like are we dating? Is this serious? I don't really know and then he has a cousin who's like really nice and like she finally kind of notices him like halfway through and the other boy um his dad has passed away and he's dealing with the grief of that and she has grown up without a mother because her mom abandoned her and her dad.
Stephanie (29:59)
And then he has a cousin who's like really nice and she finally kind of notices him like that way of breaking up. And the other boy, his dad is passed away and his mom is briefed about it and she's just part of it without a mother because her mom abandoned her and her dad. And so they both kind of like connect without that and then she has a picture of her girlfriend and she's like, well, they both have everything in it.
Kaitlin (30:20)
And so they both kind of like connect about that. And then she has like issues with a girlfriend. Like it has a little bit of everything in it. And it's really well done. And I would say like out of all the graphic novels I've read, this one took me the longest because it has like the most text out of any graphic novel that I've read. Visually stunning, super compelling, has a little bit of everything. I think that.
Stephanie (30:39)
visually stunning, super compelling, has a look at it every day. I think that honestly, if I'm being like, I'm thrilled about it, the title stinks, and that it's gonna turn a lot of people off from how good it is, because it looks like a proofreader, but it does have a story and title, but it's all different kinds of love, I think is what people need to understand. It talks about correctness, friendship love, romance love,
Kaitlin (30:46)
Honestly, if I'm being, if I'm being like kind of brutal about it, I think that the title stinks and that it's going to turn a lot of people off from how good it is because it looks like a frou-frou. It says love story in the title, but it's all different kinds of love, I think is what people need to understand. It talks about parental love, friendship love, romance love, missing people, that kind of love. Like it has a lot of different things in it.
So I don't really love the title. I already talked about, There's a Time for Everything, which was the one that I read for my class, where the boy goes on the European trip and has his first girlfriend and it's adorable. And then another one that I just got, that I haven't read yet is called In Limbo. And it deals with, the main character is a Korean American girl, and she is dealing with some mental illness.
Stephanie (31:24)
my class because my class was on the European trip, and classes were so fun and it's adorable. Then another one that I just got that I haven't read yet is called In Mokba and it deals with the character of her leading adult mom and she's feeling some personal mental illness. Her queen family is not very impressed by understanding that her social and emotional needs because culturally they're very upset.
Kaitlin (31:43)
personal mental illness. And her Korean family is not very like understanding of her social emotional needs, because culturally, there's a barrier there. And so that's what this one is about. And it has another beautiful cover where the girl is floating in water that's like a watercolor rainbow. And I saw this on the shelf and was like, I have to buy like there's I'm not leaving the store without this book. And the professor
of the class that I just took also recommended this because it was a class about social justice and diverse authors and all that good stuff. So I haven't read that one yet, but that's the next one on my list.
Stephanie (32:23)
What's the one that you lent me a couple years ago that I read that was beautiful? The family? Thank you. That was a good one.
Kaitlin (32:33)
the best we could do. That was about an Asian family immigrating to America. That's a really good one. I don't know who I lent that to, maybe my brother. No, actually, maybe it's at school. I have multiple libraries, it's an issue. It's a really, really good one about just the immigration experience and then going to school here and not knowing how to speak English and how kids treat you. That one packs a...
Stephanie (32:42)
No, actually maybe it's at school. I don't know what my brain is special about. Well, I mean, that's a good one for all ages, too. And so I'm just going to talk about the integration experience for them, going to school, and not just the human relation, and having a three-year life, and that in fact is a great punch. It is coming up.
Kaitlin (33:01)
a pretty big punch. And then the other one, I don't know if I made you read this or not, I got it from the library. It's called The Prince and the Dressmaker. It's about, it's another one that deals with gay relationships. I don't want to give anything away because that one has like a lot of fun twists in it. But basically, there's a dressmaker who is at the castle a lot making dresses and
Stephanie (33:07)
It's about, it's another thing that deals with gay relationships. I don't know if I can get it, I mean, I think that one has a lot of twists in it, but basically there's a dressmaker who is at the castle a lot making dresses and gets to know the prince. And that's the only thing that's there. Sounds lovely. And it's really funny.
Kaitlin (33:29)
gets to know the prince. I'm going to leave it there. And it's really funny and really heartfelt. And like, the artwork is very like fairy tale ish, because it's like the setting is a castle and like, but then the story is like very not it's like a very contemporary story shown in a very old fashioned way. And the clash of the art and the content is awesome.
Stephanie (33:36)
and the artwork is very, very polished because it's like the setting is a castle, but then the story is very, not, it's like a very contemporary story telling very fast and wide. And the clash of art and the content is awesome. It's awesome. I'm just so excited. Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. So.
Molly Galler (33:54)
It sounds like Nicko's Galaxian's next role.
Kaitlin (33:57)
Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Um, so I just finished that book, so I feel like other people need to share what they're reading now because I haven't started another something.
Molly Galler (34:02)
Um, so, I just finished that book, so I feel like I need to share what they're reading now because I have to start editing it. On Royalty, Maine, I just mentioned The Cool Friends, which was Instagram-influenced to me. I couldn't know which one to recommend, so I just picked the pop-ups because I don't know what I'm going to do. Um, that's what I'm going to do. And as I was saying,
Stephanie (34:04)
Well, in the royalty vein, I just finished The Cruel Prince, which was Instagram influence to me. I couldn't have told you ahead of time what the plot was because I don't think I knew, but I asked for it for Christmas. And as I was reading, I kept wondering.
Molly Galler (34:32)
I have a question for you. Who did the author actually write in the title? Did he go out with his girlfriend or something like that? I don't think either of you did this without Mary, so. I don't know. No thanks. Why is it so right without a girl? She must be a test-girl. I love it. I have to say human.
Stephanie (34:32)
Who did the author actually reference in this title? Because there are multiple cruel princes in this story. I don't think either of you is gonna read this. This is about fairies.
Kaitlin (34:41)
I don't, I don't think this is about fairies. I'm out.
Stephanie (34:45)
It's a YA story. It's about a human girl. She and her two sisters.
Kaitlin (34:55)
I love it when people have to qualify the girl with human. That's when I know I'm not going to read it. When you have to say it's about a human girl.
Molly Galler (35:01)
It's about a human girl, not a dragon girl or a fairy girl.
Kaitlin (35:09)
Oh, that's my favorite. But please there, I'm sure we have listeners that are into this.
Molly Galler (35:09)
or a vampire girl.
Stephanie (35:17)
Yeah, when she is seven, she and her twin sister and her older sister are hanging out at home and a strange man comes to the door. She answers the door, lets him in, he murders their parents. And then he, yeah, it starts off with a bang. Yep. Takes the three of them to the land of Faerie, which is apparently across the ocean. This episode is fueled by Prosecco, by the way.
Kaitlin (35:25)
cancer for a human. And then. Whoa, did not see that coming.
Molly Galler (35:30)
Yeah, it's still not enough. Not enough. Yeah, it takes a lot of effort.
Kaitlin (35:44)
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I don't mean to be laughing but it's just like and then he just takes three random children across an ocean to the Fairyland.
Molly Galler (35:46)
This actually is a little silent. I'm sorry. I'm laughing. It's different. You're a fast eater.
Stephanie (35:50)
Well, it turns out that he's actually the biological father of their older sister. So their sister is half fairy. You guys are, I've lost you. But anyways, fast forward, she's now I think like 17.
Molly Galler (35:57)
there's this. The plot thickens.
Kaitlin (36:01)
But anyway, the best way to fast forward games now is to find- This kind of reminds me of that soap opera Passions back in the day. Did you watch that? I think I watched it a lot. Oh my God, you did not. I had friends that watched Passions and I was like, they'd try- they'd give me updates over lunch. I'd be like drinking a carton of milk and they'd be telling me about it like this and I'd be like, uh, okay.
Stephanie (36:09)
Don't even start because I watched every single episode of it. Yes, I did. That was my gateway drug to soap operas and then it went downhill from there. Anyways, so she and her sister are humans living among fairies and they're now teenagers and there's a lot of cruelty, like violent.
Molly Galler (36:17)
You try, you can be a freak over life and go to a meeting party and help a date. You can argue about it like this, like they would have a conversation. I was just a crump. Oh lord. Anyways, so Shane has a third and he's looking for blueberries. They're now two years and there's a lot of people to him. I have a goal to him. There's a lot of interest in him. She is trying to find a place of safety where one of the...
Stephanie (36:39)
cruelty. There's a lot of intrigue. She is trying to find a place of safety where one of the princes will sort of take her into his court and protect her because she could get murdered at any time. And there is one cruel prince who is her age, who is just constantly picking on her. It's not even picking on her. It's like...
violent picking on her basically. I will say that I did not love it. I struggled with it, even though I didn't purchase it. I did enjoy it in the end. And if I didn't have an extensive TBR pile, I probably would order the next book just to see what happens. The other thing is I need fairies right now because I am so stressed out. I'm about to tile, but I spent a week doing drywall and backerboard and I needed something completely not of this world.
Kaitlin (37:20)
just to see what happens. The other comment, I need to hear from right now because I'm so stressed about coming out to Tile. I spent a week doing my little back door thing on Sunday, but you may have found it in this world. So, I'm gonna be able to recover from the end. That's fair. I have a question. Last week I had a question. I spoke at 6,000, 6,000.
Stephanie (37:35)
So yeah, I read a book about fairies. The end.
Molly Galler (37:42)
My book is not about fairies. Um, last week I mentioned that I was starting this book called Sex, Lies, and Sensibility. I arrived here tonight. I only have 13 pages left. I had such a busy work day. I was on zoom for a thousand hours and I was so close to finishing. So I don't actually know what's going to happen at the very end, but I was like in on this book. And I will say the two of you like a lot of like conflict and bumpy road to the end and you are going to love this book.
Stephanie (37:47)
I have loved her since I was a kid. I had such a busy day, I was so busy. So I don't actually have time to tell you. But I just like it on the spot. And I guess the two of you want comfort and happiness. And we all want to walk this walk.
Molly Galler (38:12)
I had moments where I was like, oh my God, I can't believe this is getting messed up again. I just wanted to like fast forward to the happy ending, which I don't even know if I'm going to get, but it's a lot of like just conflict on the road to potentially being together. And it also took a long time for it to get like steamy, which surprised me when Ali Hazel and the author was the one who recommended it. I thought surely this is going to be like the sauciest of the saucy.
was but it's so restrained the way she decides to include those moments where like you're waiting for it you're waiting for it you're waiting for it finally happens and it's like so much better than you even think it could be. This is a totally new author to me, Nikki Payne. It's making me want to read whatever else she has published. So if you're into romance with conflict, a dash of sauce, this is going to be for you.
Stephanie (38:45)
way to prove it. We finally got this inside so much better than you could think. This is a time and opportunity to be here. It's made me want to read whatever else she has published. So, for any of you who are interested, I'm going to be reading this.
romance with on the adapter sauce. This is going to be a problem. I will say that I learned for the first time in the event that we went to. Remember they said, I think someone posed a question, it might have been the host, do romance books always end with a happy ending? And all three authors said yes. So I'm assuming you're going to get the happy ending because it seems like maybe that's a requirement for romance books.
Molly Galler (39:30)
And 13 pages we will know and I'll text you tonight. We talked about a lot of epic books in this episode. I beg of you if you're not already following us on Instagram at plans are booked. This is where we share photos of all the books we discussed so you can see what cover you're
Stephanie (39:33)
I'm so happy.
Kaitlin (39:36)
to be able to talk to you. That's not happening. We talked in the book. I think the book is just awesome. I think if you're not a big follower of this, you'll have to come and see our book. This is our wayshader. For those of you who discuss, you can see what career the people are. We share books with every single book that we mention here, and all the answers are saved to our books. You can find it in your picture. We do it for you. We want you to find all the stuff that you're interested in and be able to navigate your future.
Molly Galler (39:50)
We share a list of every single book that we mentioned during all of the episodes. They're saved to a highlight so you can find them again in the future. We do it for you. We want you to find all of the stuff that you're interested in and be able to have it at your fingertips. So give us a follow there. Um, and shoot us a note if there's a book that you're reading and you love and you think we should read, or you want us to talk about, or if you have thoughts on the idea of you trailer, we would love to hear it and perhaps we'll share your thoughts on air if you feel so inclined to tell us how you feel.
Kaitlin (40:02)
us all there. And should we just say that this is a book that only people can buy? Or should we just say that this is a book that only people can buy? If you're interested in buying a book, we would love to hear. And especially if you're a subscriber, please go subscribe to our channel and tell us how you get. Honestly guys, I don't think I've had one book recommended to me. And I've influenced so many people to read books through this podcast. People keep telling me, oh I'm reading this because like you guys talked about it on the pod.
is usually one, you listen to the pod, and two, thank you so much, I feel like an influencer, but nobody is giving us book ideas and I'm getting sick of it. Putting my foot down, 20 episodes, somebody should give us some book recommendations. Yes, thank you. Oh my God, just a little, a quick note, just to drop us a little Insta something something. We'd love it. Until next time, our plans are booked. Bye.
Stephanie (40:49)
asking.