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Lance: Hello.
Avery: Hello.
We are back after like a
month hiatus pretty much.
Yes, but things were happen.
Things have been happening
behind the scenes.
Lance: A lot of moving parts.
Yeah,
Avery: so that's why we're, we have to
take a little slight break, but you know.
Now we're back.
Lance: Yes.
Avery: We're here to deliver content.
Lance: Yeah.
Welcome to ISO Insiders.
This is episode eight.
Don't forget.
If you wanna see more of our faces
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And also
Avery: we're on Blue Sky.
Lance: We're also on the,
the, the blue that is Sky.
And then we're also on Instagram.
Yes.
And all that good stuff.
Yeah.
Maybe TikTok it's coming.
Maybe.
Possibly.
We'll see.
It might get canceled.
Who knows?
We live in upside down world.
But anyway,
Avery: so what are we
talking about today, Lance?
Lance: Today we're talking about Mix
Minus, this is an audio thing, so.
How old is this?
Avery: How old is this?
You remember
Lance: back in the day, hot 97, we used
to call it for the summer jam tickets.
Avery: No, I used to call in
for the Z 100, uh, Z 100, uh,
Zootopia tickets, actually.
Ah, okay.
Summer Jam was not my thing.
Zootopia was,
Lance: ah, gotcha.
So same thing.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
So to explain it, you know, like
when people, you listen to the
radio, you hear people come on
and they, you hear like an echo.
Avery: Yeah.
The engineers always have to say, turn
yourself, turn, turn your radio down.
Lance: Right?
So technically what Mix Minus
is, is like, it's a routing, it's
an audio routing scheme, right?
It helps, pretty much takes all
your audio sources and then, uh,
sends it back to the listener.
So that could be somebody who's just
listening or even somebody on the phone.
Okay.
Um.
But it's more for the person on the phone.
Okay.
Um, where.
They won't, uh, they
won't hear themselves.
It won't echo back.
No feedback.
That sort of thing.
Okay.
So that's what that eliminates.
So that's what mix minuses.
And this was for a very long time,
just like a broadcast available thing.
Mm-hmm.
In fact, I think some of the older
interfaces audio interface that
the big one that has like eight
16 inputs and stuff like that.
Yeah.
You have to get a, a literal
cable to create a loop back.
Oh.
You have to like loop an audio
back into itself and stuff like
that so it can do the whole.
Remote caller call in live sort of thing.
Yeah.
Right.
Um, it's not until, I would
say last 10 years or so, a
lot of companies have stopped.
They, they, they took
that same type of scheme.
Mm-hmm.
And they put it into things like
interfaces, like, you know, the
small little things you buy for
people because a lot of people are
getting into podcasts and stuff.
Yeah.
It's taking
Avery: off.
Lance: Right.
So, you know, companies like Focus Right.
And Zoom and stuff like that.
They all kind of have this stuff in it.
Okay.
Uh, uh, also.
Even like, like our, our interface.
Yeah.
That has it, you know, it, it can do,
um, mix minus via USB or just through
Bluetooth, whatever, that sort of thing.
So technically we could have call-ins
if we like, if we went live and
do the whole thing and whatnot.
Yeah.
But that's what it is.
And that's been the bane of the
bane of people who live stream now.
'cause everybody's live streaming because
you know, 2020 happened, everybody's home.
Mm-hmm People was like, man, I got
on there and some people got famous.
Avery: That's true.
A lot of people got
famous 'cause of covid.
Lance: Right.
And now everybody was like, hold on.
It's cool.
I could go live, I'm just talking
to myself, but now I want to
have remote people come in.
I want people to come up on my panels.
Mm-hmm.
Have this conversation.
But when they did that, what happens?
Echo, echo, echo, echo, echo.
I can't hear you.
What?
Uh, this is too loud.
This is too low and shit like that.
Yeah.
But it's because people
had a lot of interfaces.
Like, so for the most part, USBC
interfaces or just USB interfaces.
Mm-hmm.
Like the focus Right.
Solo and stuff like that.
Their, their whole thing
is to take mics like this
Avery: mm-hmm.
Lance: And make it digital.
Yeah, that's it.
No processing, no noise gates, no.
None of that stuff.
Okay.
Until some of the companies
was like, wait, what?
Hold on.
Now people live at home.
They're not in a studio like this.
Yeah.
With all this stuff.
Mm-hmm.
And they don't, they're
not gonna sound as good as.
You know, Joe Rogan or whoever,
if you could talk about anybody
else but Joe Rogan right now.
Well, you know, well the Midas Touch
is the number one podcast now, so,
Avery: you know, it's funny,
YouTube suggested, uh, my Touch.
I've been watching it.
I'm like, I don't know how this popped up
on my feed, but you, I'll keep watching.
Lance: Yeah, it's a whole network.
Big political people.
Avery: Yeah.
Lance: Um.
Even they don't sound good,
but they don't disrespectful.
They just don't.
They don't.
But
Avery: ladies, gentlemen, Lance is
an audio snob in case you haven't
Lance: noticed.
Yes, yes.
Snob, cast,
Avery: snob life,
Lance: um,
Avery: hashtag snob life.
Lance: But even they don't do the whole.
Go live.
They do go live.
Mm-hmm.
But they don't do the whole bring
people like, you know, the whole
phone call calling and stuff.
It was only like a very few
people that do this sort of thing.
Mm-hmm.
And people think it, it
costs a lot of money to do.
I mean, it did, back in the
day, the shit was expensive.
Now it's really, really cheap
Avery: as most, you know, things go
and they're expensive back in the day.
And now all of a sudden, you know,
have devices that just make it easy
Lance: because, um, you know, in the last
episode that we did, we talked about the
streamer X, like we did like a breakdown
between the streamer X and the Mackey.
Uh, what was it?
Mackey mainstream.
Okay.
That thing, I remember that.
And we got a question from someone
named, uh, Ronan Storm YouTube.
Sounds dope.
I dunno why people are putting
YouTube at the end of their names now.
I guess they just want people to know.
Um, but the question they asked
was, you know, pretty much they
have the streamer acts Uhhuh.
And if, if I can gather it, it, you know,
if I can gather what they're saying, I'm
trying to like, you know, Ronan write in.
If you, when you see this, we'll tag you.
Um, from what I gather from your question,
you're, you are using the streamer X
and you're using a PS five and a pc.
Avery: Yeah.
Lance: Or your friends are, I don't
know, something is happening there.
Um, but you're having issues
with Echo pretty much.
It sounds like when people are
on Discord and when they're
talking, they can hear themselves.
Right.
So based on the five seconds of research
that I've done on X for this very
particular thing, so the Stream X has
what is called the unified or unity.
Software.
Mm-hmm.
That lets you route you,
you see all the stuff.
It's like all the levers and
pretty colors and shit like that.
Even like, uh, road Central,
like this, uh, thing right here.
If you're looking at my screen,
well, it's kind of hard to see,
but it's like this tiny thing.
But that's what it looks like
when you download this stuff.
You get two pieces of software.
Okay.
Uh, one is Road Central.
One is called Unity or Unify
or something like that.
Mm-hmm.
And Unify is more like you can record
in it and then you can set up all
your channels and stuff like that.
It's kind of like more like a,
like a da, like kind of, yeah.
Like it's like a software interface.
Um, but within Road you, within
the Road Central, you can go and
like route how your stuff sounds.
Okay.
And what goes out to who and,
and all this other stuff.
Um, we're not gonna get into it the.
About how we think you
could fix this issue.
But from what I can tell, the
streamer X does not have mix minus
Avery: for the record.
That doesn't mean we are giving up on it.
We're not, we wanna like bring it back.
We're launching a
Lance: new segment.
Avery: We wanna bring in our PS five
to the studio and actually hook it up
and see if we can recreate the problem
Lance: right along with
like a, a PC laptop.
Again, I have a gaming laptop, so we both
have gaming laptops, so, yeah, so we'll.
Hook those up altogether, we'll
make a whole video about it.
And if we're lucky, we can
come up with a solution for
you with what you already have.
Yes.
That's, that's always been
my thing too, for people.
Let's fix what you already have.
Avery: Otherwise it's, you know,
it's more one of those, you might
need to buy something else and
which is the solutions aren't
Lance: always the cheapest.
Exactly.
But, but there's more.
Avery: Oh, there's more.
Lance: So there are, so we will tell you
about some solutions in this episode.
Um, where you may have to
get rid of the Stream X,
Avery: don't do that.
Lance: I mean, you could keep it,
but you may, you may have to route
your audio through something else.
Um, I like to do stuff through hardware.
Mm-hmm.
Now through software, there is
a thing called Steel Series.
I think it's, it's from a, well,
it's a company called Steeler.
Yeah.
I have their headsets.
Right.
And they, they make a, um, they
have a, a app you can download
or a program on Windows.
I think you can get it on Mac.
But nobody's using Max to play games.
Well, apparently you can.
Yeah, you Black Ops three.
I just found out that
Avery: Mac, you can't play games
on Max or something like that.
And I'm like, what?
Why is it a thing?
It
Lance: kind of can, but not really.
But wait, that's a whole other episode.
Avery: We need an episode about that.
'cause I'm very confused.
Yeah.
Lance: Yeah.
So the, so there's um, it's called Sonar.
I think it's called Aurora
or something like that.
But if you look for like Aurora or Sonar,
um, that is a software that may help you.
I don't know if it will or not, but
it, it helped me in the best to, to
route audio really well when I didn't
have physical hardware to do anything.
Yeah.
So if you're just like, it's just you,
you're trying to push the, uh, like your
voice, your game and like some, maybe some
background music or something like that.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, or maybe even a conversation and stuff
like that, but that really depends on how
you have things hooked up and everything.
Right.
Yeah.
So there's two recommendations I have.
Um, and this is just purely because of
if you're a single streamer, meaning
it is just you, just, you, um, you and
you on your, your mer band of whatever
consoles or pc, whatever you are using.
Um, and you, your whole thing is
like, I gotta get my audio right?
Everything looks pretty,
I got my audio right.
Yeah.
You know, so I recommend the focus, right?
Um, a voice caster too.
This is specifically made
for this sort of thing.
Now, the crazy thing is
it is a podcaster device.
It's cheap.
It's on sale.
Actually, you can get it anywhere for
this same price for a hundred dollars.
Huh?
So even though it's at sale.
Now it's been on sale
for the last two years.
That means they're probably coming
out with the VO caster three or
something, or whatever there is.
There is the VO caster.
Mm-hmm.
Don't get that one.
You want the VO caster two?
Avery: What's the, what's the, what's
Lance: up with the VO caster?
Two.
So the voc caster too, which
I just picked up by the way.
You have it?
Hell yeah.
I got that shit.
Of course you do.
But there's a reason why I have it.
But, uh, this is for this very
same mix, minus stuff or whatever.
The cool thing is, it's a two XLR, um,
like, you know, like it has host and gas.
It's like if it, if you're physically
with someone and stuff like that.
So it's pretty de it's small.
Nice bill quality.
I'm not gonna lie, it's
plastic, but who cares?
Um, but if you look at the
back of it right here, right?
Um, where you see, I dunno why
this, this is, this website.
Don't, don't, lemme see.
Is there, is there a
better, lemme see this.
Okay.
These are just, oh, okay.
Kind of better.
Avery: Okay.
I can see actually more of the back.
Lance: Yeah, we can see
more of the back, so, okay.
So you see how they have all this like
set up, you see those microphones?
These are the microphones we have.
Those are the same one.
You can use the same thing.
It's really cool where it's like, it's
pretty much like what we have here.
It's just that two people,
if you're physically with two
people, you plug into XLR, phone,
uh, phones, microphones, Uhhuh.
Yeah.
Phones, um, microphones, right?
And, uh, it has, you can plug it, you can,
you know, uh, quite an inch plugs to like.
Um, head, uh, studio monitors.
Yeah.
You know, stuff, stuff, stuff that
you can get some cheap ones, you
know, it doesn't really matter.
Um, and then you can also, and
then headphones for each person.
Mm-hmm.
And each person have their
own, um, controller and stuff.
And it has, um, compression built in
so you can, like, it colors how your
audio sounds and the whole thing.
Uh, noise gates, you
name it, it's in there.
Yeah.
And you can do a lot of
controls and stuff like that.
And you do, you do a lot of this control.
You could kind of do it
on the, on the device.
Mm-hmm.
But you wanna do it through the,
the software under on the computer.
Just don't,
Avery: yeah.
Lance: You wanna, if you
wanna guess, go right ahead.
But the reason why, this is more for
like, kind of what Roan was asking, right?
Yeah.
So it, you see the app,
you see that phone.
So it has the ability to
connect two ways there.
It has TRRS or the OX cable, like the one
with the third ring and stuff like that.
I don't know how many people still
have phones that has a headphone jack.
Avery: Not many,
Lance: but you can get
like an little adapter.
Oh, like a UPC adapter.
Yeah.
To the headphone and
then boom, plug it in.
So pretty much what that does, it
brings in a third track, meaning your
phone can now be that, like a phone
call could come in, or Discord chat,
kind of like what we did that test.
Yeah.
So that sort of thing.
And the cool thing is Mix
minus, it's already built in.
You don't gotta do shit,
but they call it Loop back.
But it's the same, it's the same concept.
Okay.
So you can get the Discord
chat going on there.
As you're talking on here.
Mm-hmm.
They can hear you, you're
hear them, and boom.
All mixed in magic.
So basic,
Avery: pretty much.
It's like a cheap, relatively cheap,
all in one solution that should
take care of the issue pretty much.
Okay.
It
Lance: almost rules everything up.
But the, the other thing is if you
don't, if you don't have the adapter,
you don't wanna buy anything.
No problem.
Built in Bluetooth.
Oh.
So you can just, and it, that means
it doesn't have to be a phone.
Mm-hmm.
It could be a tablet or any sort
of thing that sends audio through
Bluetooth that sends like audio,
you know, you know, whatever.
Avery: Can you have somebody Zoom,
like Zoom calling on the iPad or phone?
Yeah.
And through Bluetooth
connected to the voice.
Okay,
Lance: cool.
Yep.
Yep.
Exactly.
So I mean, keep in mind, you
still need to have this device
somewhat hooked up to your device.
I don't think you can
plug this into a phone.
It'd be kind of cool if you did.
It looks like you can plug a camera, like
Avery: A-D-S-L-R or
Lance: mirror.
That's another thing.
You can send your audio from
your, uh, there's like a actual
ox uh, input for cameras.
Really?
Yeah.
So you don't have any audio
drift and stuff like that?
Are you, are you bringing
this into the studio?
I bring it into the studio.
We're bringing in the studio.
Have, we're have a conversation.
We, we'll make, we, we'll
do another comparison video
between this and the other.
I feel like I wanna
Avery: hook up my, uh, a seven
40 with and see what it can do.
Lance: Oh, it'll work.
Oh, that's dope.
It'll work right away.
It's really cool.
Um, it's, I would, I would recommend
this to you for your, your, your
station and stuff like that.
Oh yeah.
But like I said, a
hundred bucks really easy.
USBC, well, I mean, it's USBC to a,
with the, the cord you get, but I
think you can plug in USBC, whatever.
And it has like a power, it literally
has a power button on the back of
it so you can turn that shit off.
So, but if you're trying to solve
that, I, but again, I don't know if
you can put this into like your phone.
And it will work or anything like that.
'cause there's some people
who ask that question too.
It's like, oh, I go live on TikTok
a lot with my phone and you know,
if all this could, I guess your
phone would be able to power it.
I don't know.
But I haven't tried it.
I don't know if that works, but for
your needs for like the whole mixed mind
stand, I haven't discorded or whatever.
Mm-hmm.
This is one way of doing that.
I don't know if you can do it in the
computer itself directly, but this
is just, like I said, the hardware
version is a little bit different.
You will need another device.
To make it run.
Yeah.
Just like the stream XY, you can plug in
a second computer into it to get audio in.
Yeah.
Which I suspect is the way to fix
that issue that they're having.
Mm-hmm.
But I don't know, but do you want to
plug in a hole, the pc, just to get that?
I don't know.
It's really up to you.
Um, but that really depends on
your setup, on your stream and how
you're making all this other stuff.
My second recommendation
is the pod track P four.
Oh, that's thing.
Now this is a smaller brother
to our recorder here, but
it looks like it is pricey.
1 29. Oh yeah.
Not the worst.
Not pricey.
Not that worst.
Not price.
You know the cool thing about
this, it's really small, not a
whole lot of bells and whistles.
You do get some extra
stuff like sound pads.
Um, it's a four track, um, audio recorder.
It is made for podcasting.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, it can run off of AA batteries.
For Windows, all you really have to do
is plug in A-U-S-B-C into their connector
on the side, and then you're good to go.
Mm-hmm.
Um, you don't really have
to do much else after that.
Uh, it doesn't have, it's
Avery: very, it's like
a small form factor.
Lance: Yeah.
Yeah.
So does he have a phone?
Wait, that's the, that's
the call in, guess huh?
So you see, you can do the same thing,
the same plugin either to TRS mm-hmm.
Or to the Bluetooth, which you buy.
You have to buy the Bluetooth thing.
There's a Bluetooth transmitter.
You do have to buy that and you plug
it in and then hook it up to the
phone and boom, you're good to go.
Wow.
But pretty much now that track becomes,
'cause you would, what you would do
on the third, uh, track, you switch
it to phone Uhhuh and then they'll be
able to hear you, you can hear them.
And that's what, that's how I was
doing that test the other day with
this particular piece of device.
You have it.
I have this as well.
You're worse than me.
I bought this years ago.
This is is an old device.
This is old.
This is old.
This is not new.
I thought this is a new device.
No, no, no, no.
This is not new.
There.
They do have a new one, which
is just two, but it's like
USB mics and stuff like that.
I don't know how that works and I
think it's cheaper, but I don't know.
But this will give you the
same effect, same sort of like.
Either through Bluetooth, but
you do have to buy the dongle.
It is not built in.
Mm-hmm.
You do have to buy it separately.
It is a $50 add-on.
Yeah.
Um, if you can find it, that
shit is always sold out.
But the cool thing is you can
record directly on the device.
You don't need software.
It does not have any compression.
It does have like a low cut thing.
Okay.
So there's no noise gate
or anything like that.
Um, that's, you would
have to do that in post.
But this, 'cause, this is made
for on the Go podcast recording.
Kind of go, like, even when this
picture here, you can see that
little white, um, wire coming
out from the bottom of the phone.
That's a, an adapter.
Avery: So basically you can take this
on the go for set up for clients?
Lance: Hell yeah.
You can run around, you know, if you
trying to do like a four person Oh.
A podcast on the, you can do a podcast.
Podcast on the
Avery: go.
On the go.
Oh wait.
That device looks familiar.
Lance: Yeah, we
Avery: have it.
Lance: Yeah.
I took, I took it outta there.
Oh.
I was like, that looks familiar
because it fits, it, it fits on
the smaller one and the bigger one.
Oh yeah, that's what it looks
Avery: like.
Wireless connectivity.
When we did that, uh.
Sports podcast, sports podcasts
back in the day in the, in the bar.
Lance: They, it can, they, they
couldn't do all this, but it didn't,
this didn't exist then, unfortunately.
Avery: But that was, that was long time.
It would've been great long time ago.
Lance: Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's, it's, it's made for, like
I said, on the go recording sort of thing.
Um, how you, I'm not gonna, we're
not gonna get into the whole how you
set things up or anything like that,
but this is how you solve, like, for
inexpensive, like, you know, 'cause.
Anything above, like to go, like
there is a cheaper version to this.
Apparently it can do the same thing.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but I, I don't have any
experience with it, so I have no idea.
And the only reason why I would say you
may want to explore that because it's
much smaller, but you have less stuff.
But if you're looking for something
that colors your audio Yeah.
So you don't, like, you might
be in a noisy room, you might
have a fan on or something.
You don't want that, you want
something cut out and stuff like that.
Yeah.
That's what road comes in
and is really good at that.
Avery: Mm-hmm.
Lance: I will say, if you
want all that kind of stuff.
You, it starts to get really pricey.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, you're jumping from
like a hundred dollars to like $500.
Like you're adding features.
That makes sense.
You're adding a ton of features.
Yeah.
But you do add stuff that
you may not even use ever.
And so you really, it's really depends
on, like I said, your budget and what
exactly are you trying to do here.
You know what I'm saying?
Got it.
Whereas focus, right.
You know, like I said, it,
it hits that sweet spot.
The, the, the, the voice caster
I think is, um, I think like.
It's, it's a dope piece
of soft, uh, hardware.
It's really small.
It works just instantly.
As soon as you plug it into your, I
mean, you, you do download whatever.
Yeah.
Um, and you can like, uh, apparently
it gives you a Hindenberg dog.
You get it for like six months.
I wouldn't even bother, to
be quite honest with you.
It's yourself.
Um, it, but like for like, 'cause the idea
now is when it comes to live streaming.
Mm-hmm.
A lot of people don't think
about, oh wait, production.
They don't think about that.
Mm-hmm.
They just think like, oh, there should
be devices made for what the stuff is.
These things are made for podcasting,
but with the ability to bring people in
remotely, you can even do a a one camera
video podcast with this sort of thing.
Right.
Like a one wide shot.
You got two people at a third
person calling in and you can add
them later in post or whatever.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
But the idea is it's like, think
about what other people are.
When I say other people,
I'm talking about like.
What are other industries are doing?
Do, can they do the thing you're looking
to do and can you work that into it?
And the question, the answer
is yes, you absolutely can.
Mm-hmm.
You know, so it's like, you know,
if you're trying to, uh, if you
have like an older computer, but
it can play, still play games.
Like you, you know, some people like
to play, um, you know, emulators Yeah.
Like old school games and stuff like that.
Mm-hmm.
But the computer is a bit, it kind of
like, if you try to like, oh, I'm gonna
stream, and then it, it just blows up.
There's another way to get around that.
You know, you could buy
yourself a a a a switcher, yeah.
A a video switcher and stuff like that.
And that would take a shit
ton of, um, strain off of your
computer and stuff like that.
So you don't have to worry about
streaming or anything like that.
So think about those things when
you're doing this other thing.
And I think that, I think, Ronan, this
may solve your problem, but it depends.
I don't know if you, if you have the
funds to go get other stuff, go get it.
Uh, like I said, but you may
have to give up a little bit of
the, um, the, the features on
Streamer X. The streamer X. Yeah.
However, uh, like I said, we're gonna
do an episode on the Streamer X and
see if we can recreate your problem.
Avery: What, what's the name of
that episode that, uh, that segment?
I.
Lance: Uh oh, I don't know.
ISO Squad, it's like tech service.
We're thinking
Avery: about actually like trying
to recreate problems in the studio.
Yeah.
And if people like comment and stuff
and then see if we can fix it and then
like suggest solutions for it, so.
Lance: Right.
And if we're lucky, this is another
component I would like to add to
it is contact the manufacturer and
see if they have anybody that is
willing to come on the podcast and
have a conversation or call in.
Yeah.
Or Yeah, or call in, be like, Hey,
this is what people are trying to do.
Is it possible?
Yeah.
Uh, 'cause even that same company
road, like they have, uh, the
whole call in feature mm-hmm.
But on their more very expensive,
um, devices that, that has
nothing to do with video.
Yeah.
Like, but if you want something
that does video and audio,
it's gonna cost you $1,200.
The row cash that, which is our
first ever first of an episode.
Yeah.
The row cash still will solve a lot
of this stuff for you, but you're
Avery: paying for that.
Lance: But yeah, it is a,
it is not, like I said.
Back in the day, mixed minus a loop back.
It's expensive, man.
It's not a cheap thing, but if
you're getting into this sort
of the streaming world mm-hmm.
You know, everybody
says, oh, just get OBS.
Yeah.
But then you need a multi-core processor.
You need multiple screens.
You need, yeah.
You need a shit ton of ram.
You need a really good graphics card.
You need cooling by the time you sit down.
You're spending way more
than buying a road caster.
Avery: That's why I'm just glad I have
you because when it comes to streaming,
my brain hurts and I'm just like,
I'd rather just be shooting myself.
It's so this is why I have Lance.
Lance: It's getting cheaper.
It's getting cheaper all at once.
Maybe.
Maybe we'll do an episode on that one day.
Okay.
I don't know because there I, I've
been thinking, I was like, oh,
maybe if we do this, this, and this.
Yeah.
Don't get me wrong, for
a good streaming setup.
Almost a thousand dollars.
That's what everything though.
That's what everything.
Yeah.
Camera, microphone, headphones,
your lights, the whole thing.
Uh, you know, plus I'm including
things like the console.
Yeah.
What are you trying to do?
It is like, are you trying to
be fancy or not, but whatever.
But that's a whole other thing.
Mm-hmm.
But, um, but right now, as it stands,
yes, live streaming is not cheap.
Even if you're doing it on.
TikTok through your phone.
Mm-hmm.
Because, you know, I mean, phones
are heavily subsidized, right?
Yeah.
But the actual cost for a phone is what?
On average, a thousand dollars.
A thousand dollars.
What now?
Right.
So even that just one device.
But now they want to be like, oh,
I want people to call in shit outta
luck, gonna have to buy something else.
Because technically, you know,
and the people who like to,
what do they call, multicast?
Yeah.
And stuff like that.
So it's like people are like,
oh, well I'm gonna multicast.
So technically what they're
trying to do is like go live on
TikTok and then stream that out.
Yeah.
But it doesn't work that way.
You have to stream to it and
then out to, that's a whole other
technical setup and stuff like that.
Um, but just to say what is it?
But Ronan, hopefully that
answers your question.
Hopefully that helps you out.
Um, but this is just a preliminary thing.
We will get back to you.
Yep.
With the more troubleshooting episode.
Um.
Just gotta bring the P five.
Call it ISO troubleshooting.
I do not ISO troubles.
Iso Tech Squad.
Yeah.
Tech Squad or something like that.
Well, we'll figure it out.
We'll make it cheesy in
like, like the eighties.
Oh God.
Hacker man,
Avery: sir. No.
Lance: Anyway, that wraps up
this episode of ISO Insiders.
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Avery: I think we have three, sir.
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and please, please comment if you want
us to talk about a certain, uh, item.
Yeah.
Across the tech space.
I mean, you're talking photography,
videography, audio, live streaming.
Yeah.
I mean, we may have it, we may get it.
You know, just hit us up.
Lance: Yeah.
We may have worked with it or who knows.
That's
Avery: true.
Or we may know somebody
who has worked with it.
Lance: Yeah.
And we could probably have them on.
We'll see what happens.
Avery: NAB just happened.
That is true.
There a lot of news coming out of that.
So imagine if we could do
a live stream from NAB.
No, that would be awesome.
Lance: We probably could.
Can we?
I mean, I mean NAB, there
Avery: is a New York NAB.
Lance: I mean, we should hit 'em up,
be like, Hey, can we get a booth?
It'd be a very small booth.
They'd be like, yeah, sure.
$15,000. Or maybe we'll come
up with some sort of Roman live
streaming backpack, like just run
around like, what's this stuff?
It's like, that's actually interesting.
Although it is in the J Center, I don't
know how well the signal's gonna be.
It's probably gonna be
like, shit, I dunno.
You do a ring, you do a basic point.
Yeah, it, it is job center.
Ugh.
That'd be cool to think about it.
Yeah, we'll see.
We will see what happens.
Yep.
Maybe we'll get to there,
but until then, peace.
Peace.