Another Zelda Podcast

David and Kady hang out with Andy and Al of The Zeldacast at the 2023 Zelda Dungeon Marathon stream to talk about some of the most epic moments in Zelda games.

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Kady Roberts

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David:

Hello, and welcome to another Zelda podcast. I'm David, and today I am joined with my becoming regular cohost, Katie Roberts. Katie, how are you?

Kady:

I'm doing really good. Thanks for asking. How are you?

David:

I'm I'm well. I'm super excited because we are I think we're we're we are participating in a very exciting event right now. And may I ask you to tell our audience kinda what's going on?

Kady:

Yeah. So we have journeyed out here to Mas' house, kind of like the hub of Zelda dungeon.

David:

Yeah. And It's like the land of Zelda dungeon.

Kady:

It's really cool here. And we are kind of just with a lot of other content creators and kind of collaborating in their big stream. It's it's no

David:

No no child?

Kady:

No kid

Al:

hungry. No kid hungry.

Kady:

Yeah. Thank you. No kid hungry is the charity that we're kind of trying to raise money for.

David:

Absolutely. A year ago, Andy Spetery of the Zelda cast reached out to me and invited me to join Zelda Dungeon for their marathon last year for a Zelda cast episode. And it was so much fun that we also flipped it around and Al and Andy joined me for a another Zelda podcast episode. So this year, Mazes and Andy and Al, everybody reached out and said, hey, do you wanna hang out with us again for another year? I said, this time, I'm let's let's come for more than just a morning.

David:

Let's try to do a couple days. Mhmm. So we're hanging out here being part of the marathon and the voices that you're hearing right now are Al and Andy because guys, we are back in the same room that we were a year ago. Whoo. Maz's office, he's been very graceful and he's allowed us to record in here because I understand during the marathon, this is little bit more of a no go zone

Al:

for Yeah. We're not allowed in here, but he was very gracious enough to let us in here and record Mhmm.

Kady:

Because it's the only quiet space.

David:

That's kinda what it is. So There's

Andy:

not a lot of privacy here.

David:

Yeah. Well, there's so many people hanging out. Yeah. It's so much fun.

Andy:

And so so as we're recording this, we're on two we're we're we're in Tuesday, I think. Right?

Al:

Tuesday.

Andy:

Yeah. So tomorrow, is Wednesday, and that is the the peak day for for attendees of this marathon.

David:

I heard there's gonna be, like, 37 people here or something. Yes. 37 souls in this house.

Kady:

I'm so glad I have to try and find a bed that night. Think

David:

you guys

Al:

are bouncing, so you're lucky for that. Yeah.

David:

I'm sure. We leave tomorrow around noon, but we've been here already for almost about twenty four hours, I think. Yeah. Just about. And, Al, why don't you tell our Another Zelda podcast audience a little bit about the Zelda Dungeon Marathons and what it tries what it, you know, accomplishes each year.

Al:

Yeah. So this has been going on for a little over ten years, I believe. And every year, we pick a charity usually that's revolving around children to raise money for. We do a week long of playing every Zelda game in existence, or at least we attempt to. There's a lot of, like, competitive races.

Al:

There's a lot of gimmicky, shenanigan races of these Zelda games. Sometimes the Zelda game is played with competition, and sometimes it's played with just to mess with the players. People can donate to mess with them, to do all sorts of things. But this year, we're doing no kid hungry, so every donation goes towards, you know, feeding kids and getting the the resources that that people need to get food to these kids because there's enough food in The US. Like, kids are not getting that food.

Al:

So It's really it's

Andy:

really about the infrastructure of getting

Al:

Yes.

David:

Food from

Andy:

point a to point b Exactly. Point b being into kids that that

David:

And I believe some of that infrastructure is through, like, you know, meals given at schools and stuff like that.

Al:

Yes. Exactly.

David:

Working on that infrastructure. Yep.

Al:

So, like, every dollar can provide up to 10 meals for children, so that's wonderful. I don't know where we're at now, but I think we were getting we were creeping up to 6,000. Yeah. We were close

Kady:

to 6,000.

David:

Was over five a few hours ago. Yeah.

Al:

So which is fantastic. And, yeah. It's it's an awesome event. I've been coming for I think this is my sixth year or something. And so it's really awesome to have you guys and to see my my cohost in person because we don't we don't record in person.

David:

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. You record just about every week. And, Andy, maybe I'll flip over to you here to tell our audience a little bit about the Zelda cast, though I think much of our audience is is now familiar with the Zelda cast.

David:

There's been a we get a lot of feedback saying, like, heard you guys on that show. You know, that show, I think we're I think we're definitely podcast friends, these two shows. No doubt. Mhmm.

Andy:

And I love that. I I love, just, you know, all the different Zelda pod I I'm a big believer in, like, you know, the what's that old saying about, like, high tides. Right? Like, so I I really love getting to, to do this with with you guys actually. And you specifically, David, I was really excited that you're coming back.

Andy:

But, yeah, mean, the Zelda cast, it's our it's our weekly, Zelda podcast from Zelda dungeon. That that rain or shine, we we pump something out every week. And, you know, this this summer has been great actually because it's been easy to to produce content because because there's a lot of content from Tears of the Kingdom. So we've been we've been full bore into that. But, yeah, we we do, you know, we do our weekly show.

Andy:

We stream it on Twitch. We we got to do a live episode actually as part of the Zelda Dungeon marathon. Yes. Which which by the way is is more the marathon is is actually kind of expanded since I started to to be a little bit more than just like playing games. Like, there's some fun stuff like Mhmm.

Andy:

Like, Al and I will have our show or, like, there's a couple guests that Zelda tunes or there there's kinda, you know, there's

Kady:

We're doing a Zelda newlyweds game right now.

Andy:

Yeah. Like, how well do you know your you know, we're not newlyweds, but I think we could have done pretty well, Al.

Al:

We might actually

David:

I think we could have beat all those

Al:

newlyweds. Zelda pals instead of newlyweds. I don't know either. But

David:

There's something there. There's something there for next year.

Andy:

Yeah. So, yeah, that's, that's what the Zelda cast is, is all about. And, yeah, I I think, I I was really, I was really, like, excited. Like, after we recorded our episode last year for AZP, I was like, wow. That was like I think I told Al, and I think I probably told you too, and I was like,

David:

that was a really, like,

Andy:

great conversation. And and, I was I was pretty excited

Al:

about this.

Kady:

Kind of a

Al:

back to your roots conversation with Zelda and podcasting.

Andy:

It it was it was we got to geek out about podcasting and and Zelda, and I I love that.

David:

I was just meeting the two of you in person that about a year ago at that event and that experience. So there was a little bit of, oh, let's talk about our first Zelda experience. Let's talk about our favorite Zelda game blah blah blah blah. Mhmm. You're absolutely right.

David:

We we were able to spend the second half of the episode, Katie, really just kinda talking about what it's like making a podcast, what it's like, you know, I wouldn't say behind the scenes, just maybe a little bit of a just we were able to relax out of performance mode a little and just talk about making shows and what that life is like.

Andy:

Yeah. And I think like, I think it's really interesting too because like in in so many ways, like, you know, we we kinda talked about the format and like like the Zelda cast format is is a bit different than AZP's format which is like and they're very complementary. I I feel like

David:

I was just gonna say that. I think like people can listen to both shows and get different experiences.

Andy:

Exactly. So, like, it it's it's a really nice, like, balance, like, a a different like, formats that really work. And and we talked a little bit about, like, you know, what it's like making stuff that maybe is evergreen, maybe stuff that is weekly, and and Mhmm. Yeah. That kind of stuff.

Andy:

So it was it was really cool, and and I'm glad, you know, I'm glad we're back around too.

David:

Yeah. I enjoyed the Zelda cast and listening to it because it's very much like a Zelda finger on the pulse Zelda fan. You know what I mean? Talking about what's going on now. You guys you I mean, you guys have some you have a lot of fun episodes where we talk about the older stuff too, but it's definitely like it keeps me on the heartbeat of the fandom.

David:

Right? Mhmm. Yeah. And then I I I don't know if I I'm just making this up right now, but then I feel like EZP is a little bit more like, oh, and then you go sit on the couch with a friend later and, like, reminisce about some weird game from twenty years ago and, you know, you know, it's like a different kind of thing. So I do think they're very complimentary, and I always enjoy us getting together.

David:

Yeah. If I may, today we're gonna we're gonna kinda go classic AZP episode. We're gonna do a top 10 episode, which is one of our staples. I just thought it would be fun, partly because I thought the reason I decided we're gonna do top 10 epic moments today from any Zelda game ever, and each of us have picked three. We're gonna go around and build up a top 10, which is actually probably gonna be 12, but we might have some duplicates that'll go back down, and we're just gonna see what kind of aggregate list we end up coming up with by the end here.

David:

Each all three of us have picked three or all four of us have picked three moments. And the reason pardon me. The reason I thought that this particular topic would be interesting is because I know that, you know, Katie is an Katie joined AZPEASE in season six here. And Katie, you're in ways a new Zelda fan.

Al:

Mhmm.

David:

And you have a lot of backlog to expose yourself to, and I think that's gonna be really exciting journey. Like, just we actually left the Ocarina of Time Master Quest stream that's going on below us right now to to record this episode. And, Katie, that was the first time you ever saw Ocarina of Time in action, I think.

Kady:

I wanna play it so bad. It's really fun.

Andy:

One of us. Yeah. Yeah.

David:

For sure. So I thought what was interesting, thought, oh, we have a unique opportunity here because some of us will be able to dig really deep and maybe pull some some epic moments out that might inspire new people that found Zelda who listen. We have we have a lot of young listeners. We have a lot of old listeners, and we might have a a breath, no pun intended, of of of options here. So before we get into that, I'm gonna just do four listener feedbacks real quick, and and then we'll start building our list.

David:

Sound good?

Al:

Yes. Oh,

David:

yeah. Let's go. Amazing. Alright. The first one is from Daniel Espey, and this is over on I think this is a YouTube comment actually for oh, Katie, this is for one of the episodes that we recorded fairly recently, the music of breath of breath of the wild.

Kady:

Oh, I love that episode.

David:

Part one. It was a great one. We we ended up calling it part one, Al and Andy, because we realized there was so much music in breath of the wild. Mhmm. Like, in our in our production notes, it was the breath of the wild music episode.

David:

And then as Katie was putting all the songs together, we were

Kady:

I I came to David. I was like, so I have, like, 30 songs. Yikes. Those are the ones I narrowed it down to.

David:

Right. And so then I was doing the math, I was like, I think this is three episodes, and I don't think we should do them back to back. Let's just pepper them in future seasons. You know? So anyways, it was part one.

David:

But anyways, all that is to say that Daniel Espiem over on YouTube said, hey, AZP. I found your podcast only a couple days ago, but have been loving the backlog ex exploration I found myself in. A note on the Kakariko Village theme, presumably in Breath the Wild, the harp sound you said seems like MIDI is actually a koto. It's a Chinese version. It's called the zeng, which doesn't have quite the same tone production method as a western harp.

David:

That's why we thought that we were like, sounds like a harp, it sounds like recorded or something is what I remember us saying. Mhmm. I'd be more than pleased to talk about instrumentation with you all in Zelda since the Wind Waker soundtrack is what set my path towards music in stone twenty years ago. Again, I'm loving your work. Keep it up.

David:

Green heart emoji. And I think our listeners and our fans know that for me personally, I've deemed the green heart emoji as our, like, Zelda love emoji. That's just that it's like our almost like our easy p handshake. You know what I mean? And so whenever we see the green hearts, it's like support.

David:

It's like when you see it on Discord, that's what that means for us at easy p.

Al:

Cute.

David:

So yeah. So I why don't you have anything to say about that, Katie, about that harp noise?

Kady:

No. That's really cool that you were able to kind of figure that out. I don't know if you just could figure that out with your ears or not, but that's really cool to know. And also, congrats on getting into music through Wind Waker.

Al:

Yes.

David:

Mhmm. We do have a Wind Waker episode scheduled with Mallory Kuhn, who's one of our blog writers, and she and I are recording that, like, in October. So I think it'll probably come out somewhere in December. I think it'll be a good one. Okay.

David:

Moving along real quick. Over on Instagram, Brendan Hicks sent us a a a DM actually and said, hey, people. Love the podcast. Are you guys going to make some t shirts with the annoying Navi catchphrase? Hey.

David:

Listen, dot dot dot to another Zelda podcast.

Al:

I mean so cute.

David:

I mean yeah.

Andy:

Simple, but genius.

David:

Yeah. Maybe so. Maybe so. Or maybe it's like, hey. Listen, dot dot dot on the front and then or hey.

David:

Listen to I don't know. And then another Zelda podcast on the back. I don't know. I'm not sure. We actually don't have many t shirts.

David:

We have just our standard logo one, then we have, a few others that are just kinda fun. But Brendan, yeah, that's inspiration to to make something more, to design a few more things. I think I think we gotta go that route. Move right along here. Over on I think this is Discord here.

David:

Killian or Cillian. Killian said, just some general feedback. It would mean the world to me if it was read on an episode. Well, hopefully, hopefully, we're fulfilling it. Can I

Al:

eat that?

David:

I love this podcast so so much and will listen forever. I listened from Ireland, and this was the first podcast I ever listened to. And believe it or not, but I was just looking for music on Spotify and saw the podcast and liked the podcast icon, so I clicked on and now listen every day. I think you are around a 100 episodes, not including Patreon. So congratulations.

David:

Okay. Bye. Thanks, Cillian.

Kady:

Cillian, Cillian? Cillian. Cillian is an Irish name.

David:

Yeah. It's the c that's throwing me off. You're absolutely right. I think it is Cillian. That's awesome.

David:

I designed that logo myself. So if that caught your eye, I'm, really appreciative. I know, Andy, you were yeah. And we talked last time last year about making logos and making things. Yeah.

David:

Zelda cast got the cool link with the hands up, but look.

Andy:

Old old MS Paint. That's what it's all about.

David:

Hey. You made you made MS Paint work hard. It worked it looks well. It looks good. Shall we get into our top 10?

Andy:

Yes. I'm ready.

David:

So I do have some honorable mentions at the end here as well. And, you know, usually when we build these top tens, I you know, we have a little more space to pick, like, basically, it's two hosts and you do a five. Yeah. Yeah. Three was tight.

David:

There was so many that I was

Al:

like, I don't know. I was struggling with it as well. But I'm glad we have some honorable mentions.

Andy:

I I was concerned because I was like, alright. Like, I I there's some moments in the series, but, like, I'm pretty sure other p so I I wanted to try and go for, like, maybe some some different kind of cuts because Yeah. But then, you know, honor still some of those, like, incredible moments that I think, at least some of us are gonna have on our list. So, yeah. I I got, like, a healthy mix of both, and I and I got some backups.

Andy:

So if we if we have any doubles, maybe I'll throw some of those other, those other deep cuts on there. And if not, so I'm glad we have honorable dungeons.

David:

I see. Well, what if what if we go reverse around? I was gonna go first, but Andy, why don't we start with you? What would be your technically third pick? And we're going from

Andy:

Okay.

David:

Least to most even though we love all of these moments.

Andy:

Okay. So I had a pick, and and I I have to admit, I was trying to steer away from Breath of the Wild and and Age of Calamity and and Tears of the Kingdom just because I I figured, Katie, you might have some on your Yeah. But I would be a liar if I said that there wasn't a moment from Breath of the Wild that was, like, so awesome. And I and I wanna set the stage here a little bit here. So you you have completed the Champions Valid DLC or so you've thought.

Andy:

Okay? You're all the way in. You've made it through the obliterator, the one hit obliterator. You've done all 16 extra shrines. Mhmm.

Andy:

You've done the fantastic final divine beast, which is a an excellent dungeon and and far away probably the best divine beast.

David:

I agree.

Andy:

And you go to the end and you and you finally you know, you're you're seeing that monk that you see at the end of every shrine and you're like, Gimme. What do I get for defeating this divine beast? And all of a sudden, the setting starts to change and you start to rise into the sky. And the hardest music Yes. In the series starts playing.

Andy:

It's and then he the monk so the monk whose name is Monk Maz Koshiya says something like absolutely stone cold. It's like, I I don't know. You will get no mercy from me. Like, let's let's go, basically. And you're on this, like, giant circular thing in the sky, and there's this like, the rain's coming down.

Andy:

You've got this music just pumping up. My blood is, like, pulsing like Frankenstein's monster. And I'm like, yes. And you have you have one of the best boss fights in the series versus Monk Maskashia. And this this moment to me is, like, so awesome.

Andy:

Like, it's so fantastic. And it was it was the kind of like new boss battle that I wanted from, you know, from from newer Zelda. I see. And and I don't know if I had my itch scratched with with any of the boss encounters in Breath of the Wild, but this one, I was like, this is it. This is so it was was cinematic.

Andy:

It was it was a challenging fight too. But the the buildup and the presentation towards it, that is what I would call, like, epic. Like, that one, I was just like I was fired up. Like, at at that point, even if the boss fight would have kinda been like, yeah. This was an okay boss fight, I still would have been like, this is this is awesome.

David:

Like, that moment. Yeah. Yeah. It was a highlight for me too, Andy. I'm so glad that you included this on your list cause I didn't.

David:

But, yeah, you reminded me how how awesome that is, that spot. How epic it is.

Andy:

Yes. I and I I honestly, that's one of my favorite themes in, like, the entire series. It might be, like, my second or third favorite theme in the entire series that that Monk Masked Koshiya boss fight. It's so good.

Kady:

It's very good.

David:

Yeah. Talk about it a lot. Not, Stanley.

Al:

I mean, we we talk about it the time with Monk Masked Koshiya. Like, that's our that's our jam. And it's just like, I agree. It's such a like, especially after you completed Breath of the Wild and you're like, okay. I kinda did everything I could do.

Al:

They give you this fantastic dungeon, and then they give you this, like, this this just monumentous bot. It's so much it's honestly the best boss, right, of the game and, like, in my opinion, and I sorry, but when you fight, like, four Blights in a row and then Calamity Ganon and then Dark it's

Andy:

just Yeah.

Al:

It kinda feels a little underwhelming. And then but you get this, like, really awesome boss fight for DLC, and it was I agree. It's just, like, such an epic moment. So didn't I think of that one at first. I'm glad you put that

Kady:

on the list.

Andy:

I I remember, like, absolutely popping off when we when we unlocked or when we found out rather that Monk Mask, she was at Age of Calamity. And I was like, oh, yeah. I gotta hear the Age of Calamity, like, remix of the song. And I don't think there was any, but Oh, yeah. I I was very excited to see my pal, Maz, in '19.

David:

And then, of course, that yields the the master cycle too. Well, did they call it the master cycle there?

Al:

Or it just like Master cycle master cycle zero.

David:

That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna guess, Katie, based on your reaction right now that you have not played the DLC for Breath of

Al:

the Wild.

Kady:

He called me out. I was trying to be like, yes. Yes. I yes.

Al:

I totally understand. Well, now

David:

you have play DLC.

Kady:

Know.

Andy:

I It's unbelievable. It's so much fun.

David:

It is.

Kady:

No. Because I I love I love Breath of the Wild. I just I here's my thing. I love Breath of the Wild, and then I reset my game because I was like, okay.

Al:

I'm gonna play this again. And then I never ended up playing it again, and then the DLC dropped. And I'm like, well, I have to play the whole game again and then play the DLC.

David:

For what it's worth, I've I've replayed the game with DLC included, and it kind of still works embedded in as you play. Certain things get unlocked as you go. So you could do the DLC and maybe experience Breath of the Wild in its full naturally as you play.

Kady:

Okay. Yeah.

David:

I think Like, there's items that get unlocked right away, and then after a certain time, the new shrines get unlocked. So there are checkpoints as you go.

Kady:

Okay. Cool.

David:

You know, certain things happen every day.

Andy:

It'll it'll unlock as a main quest once you've once you've done all four To find beasts. Yes. Yeah. And then you have to

Al:

the game to start the DLC. Okay. Cool. Mhmm.

David:

It still lives it technically lives pre Ganon big old game.

Andy:

Yes. Correct.

Al:

Yeah.

David:

Yeah.

Kady:

Alright.

Al:

An experience.

David:

Okay.

Al:

So but I will do something that I'm pretty sure both of you have done, and it is the Colgra boss fight in Tears of the Kingdom.

David:

Is that the Rito?

Al:

That is the Rito

David:

Wonderful.

Al:

Dungeon boss fight. I will never shut up about Colgra. I freaking love Colgra boss fight. The fact, like, getting up to that dungeon was, like, gearing you up for this boss fight, I feel. And, like, the music is great, and then you get into this boss fight, and the music is just even, like, 10 times more great.

Al:

And then you're up in the sky, and I love just dive bombing the sky because he's got these, like, these ice circles that you just dive bomb straight into, and, like, they shatter, and it's just so satisfying. And the music and the wind, and it's crazy and hectic, and it's just such a cool moment. And it, really set the tone for me for tears for the rest because I did that first. So it really just set the tone for how my tears adventure was going to be from start to finish. So that is that is one of my most epic moments.

David:

I love it. That was my first boss and so far only boss as well. Mhmm. And I thought it was the best parts of you know when you have that little dragon side quest in Breath of the Wild and you're flying around the dragon, like and that felt kinda epic at the time. It takes the best parts of that and the best parts of what I would call, like, a classic Zelda

Al:

Yes. Boss. Exactly.

David:

Where you're really solving a puzzle Mhmm. More than just, like, putting a bunch of arrows into the person's or the thing's face or whatever. Know what I mean? Like, it was cool. I loved it so much.

David:

Have you experienced

Kady:

Oh, yeah. No. So I did Of course you haven't. I I have done all the champions. But I would say I love that so much.

Kady:

And I get why you have to do the or why they encourage you to do the Rito first because Toulon's ability is so good. But I almost wish they would save it, like, for

Al:

later I because kind of agree. Yeah.

Kady:

Feel like it's the best one out of all

Al:

of them.

Kady:

So there was no like, after that, I was

Al:

like, okay. Almost didn't. A little too epic. Yeah. I

Andy:

did did Gerudo first in Breath of the Wild, which I thought was the best one with because you do, like, the Yiga clan, and I and I did that first. And I was like, oh, this is great. Like, this is like, what a great starting point, and it turns out that was, like, the best one, I thought. So I was like, oh, I wish I would have done this last almost. But, yeah, the I

David:

what I kinda found out

Andy:

about myself putting together this list of epic moments was I, like, I really appreciate, like, like a buildup or like a Mhmm. The the presentation. So, like, even just, like, scaling all the way up to the the Stormark ship, like Yeah. Getting on those trampolines. It was so cool.

Andy:

And and I was like, you know, it was it was my first dungeon as well. And I was like, man, we're pretty high up here.

Al:

Like Yeah. Yeah.

Andy:

I hope it don't fall. And just like bouncing from trampoline to trampoline.

David:

Did you ever get a little bit of the pit in your stomach? Because I did.

Andy:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, just don't die. I was so tall.

Al:

Talked about that on the stream the other day when you're like, even though it's not you, but you're in the game and there's like a high up place or you fall from a high distance, do you do you get that roll in your stomach? Absolutely. I didn't know that I would like, I always was like, the I'm only one that that happened. But when I talked about it on stream, everybody's like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Al:

So I was like, yes. Okay. Cool.

David:

Yeah. That absolutely happens in in tears. Wonderful. Love it. So we've got the boss fight down.

Kady:

So talking you're more for presentation. I am more story driven with things. So for my epic moments, for my third one, I said the first time when you play Breath of the Wild and you have the Blood Moonrise.

Andy:

Oh, interesting. Yeah. Good pick.

Kady:

Because I think it's just such a cool mechanic that hasn't really been introduced before. And you're walking around and you just see, like, the little bits start in and the music starts to get a little more ominous. And you're like, what's happening? Is there something around me? What's going on?

Kady:

And then you hear Zelda's voice, which up to this point, you'd only heard her voice. You hadn't seen her in any memories or anything. And you hear her watch as the blood moon rise, you see all these creatures coming around. And the moon is red, and everything's red, and you can't see anything. It's so cool.

Kady:

Obviously, it loses its mystique after the first 20 times. But the first time is just incredible.

David:

You're also kinda touching on that buildup thing Andy was talking about where you start to get the weird noises and the red comes out of the ground. And the first time it happens, you're like, what now? Yeah. You know

Andy:

what I mean?

Kady:

Yes. Because up to this point, if you were like me, I'm still running around like Hyrule Fields. So up to this point, it was like, oh, la la la la, fine and dandy. Everything's great. Oh, look at these flowers.

Kady:

And then it just gets so creepy.

David:

How do you well, I have to ask then just to piggyback off that. How do you feel it compares to the blood moons in tears of the kingdom?

Kady:

I saw I wanna share this with you, but on TikTok, I saw someone edit the thriller talk, like Michael Jackson's thriller when he talks in the middle of night.

David:

Oh, like coming out in the middle of the

Andy:

night, blah blah blah.

Kady:

He edited that music underneath it and it fit perfectly and that's all I can think of now. Nice. I do think it's cool. I just think, I don't know, something about seeing Zelda when she says it, makes me be like, this is kind of Oh. This is kinda cringe.

Kady:

Because she just stands there. She's like, watch as the blood moon rises.

Al:

Interesting. Well, yeah. And there's like something to that, but I don't wanna spoil that either.

Andy:

Yeah. Yeah.

David:

I think what we know is something's afoot with with that Zelda. Yeah.

Andy:

So I'm not quite right.

Al:

I think

Kady:

you just said that. It just made me realize what you're talking about. Oh my god. I never even put two and two together. That's amazing.

Kady:

Okay. I take back everything I said. No. That's brilliant. I love it.

David:

I love Puppet Zelda. I don't know what's it called.

Kady:

Yeah. No. It's brilliant. I take it back. I love it so much.

David:

That's why it's like that. That's great. Mine's also my number three is also a tears of the kingdom moment. And I almost didn't put it on here, but it did a it was kinda one of those one time things, maybe like a blood moon. The the first time it happened, I had real emotions and raw emotions, and I was I was filled with emotions.

David:

Mhmm. And it was a little bit of the buildup, and I'm I'm nervous to talk about it because I think as I say it, people will be like, oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

David:

But I wanna preface it by talking about the the now famous quote unquote first shot in Breath of the Wild of the camera following Link out of the cave and we get to see the whole thing. And that was such a famous way to introduce the game for five years. Everyone was very you know, we're used to it now, but it was very emotional experience. Mhmm. I would like to talk about what my version of that moment is in Tears of the Kingdom.

David:

Because as I was playing that first hour or so of Tears of the Kingdom, there was a couple times where I thought like, oh, this must be the big moment. This must be the big moment. Oh, oh, now I'm in I'm in Sky Islands. This must be the big reveal. Oh, no.

David:

Nothing really nothing happened there. Oh, now I'm going oh, this must be the big moment. And I jump off another thing, go to another part. No. And it wasn't that one.

David:

It wasn't that part. And it wasn't until you finally oh, I think it's maybe going to the main Sky Islands. I think I have my timeline wrong, but it doesn't matter. It's when the logo shows up and

Kady:

he dives down.

David:

So he's diving down and you're like, cool. The diving's already neat. But the way that the music swells, where and how it swells, the way the camera the the cinematography really coming down and through and just it's so cinematic that for me to experience, I feel like it is even better than the Breath of the Wild title screen. Not that it's a competition.

Kady:

It's certainly more epic.

David:

More epic. And so for me, with with my heart being ready for a sequel, I guess, you know, you're only hour in and you're like, what's in front? Let's do this. Like, it was such a great way to get into the game where once I, you know, landed, I felt like responsibility once I landed in that pool after that shot. Yeah.

David:

And so the just the way that and I think they even framed it so that Tears of the Kingdom shows up a little bit to the side of the screen. It's all balanced really well. And so, yeah, I honestly think it's epic. And I think that it's even more epic than the Breath of the Wild one that everybody loves so much Mhmm. For me.

David:

Yeah. So that's my third. My

Kady:

third I'd agree with that.

Andy:

Cool. Well, I think, like, there's a lot of, like, real world buildup to that too. Right? Like, because you've like, you you can't separate the real world from it. And you've been waiting for this game for so long, and it was there was that weird delay and, like, all of those like, I I I felt something sort of similar where, like, I was like, I can't believe I'm, like, playing I've been talking

Al:

about this game ever.

Andy:

Yes. Now it's like tears of the kingdom. And I was like, okay. Like

Kady:

Yeah. I could, like, feel how Yeah. Crazy I

David:

You're right. There's a meta element. It's like we've been waiting for that logo since 2019 or something. Yeah. Exactly.

David:

And and they they nailed it.

Andy:

Yeah. So I I actually had like saying that, think I agree a lot actually.

David:

Mhmm. Yeah. And I'm also now realizing that it's even more of just it's almost it's it's epic because it's it is a bit meta. It's almost about being a Zelda fan, but that's fine. Yeah.

David:

So I think we're well, let's see. Where are we at in our time? How about this? Let's take a break real quick. We're only about thirty minutes in exactly.

David:

It's maybe it's a little early. We've only done one round, but I think we come back and do the other two rounds and and

Kady:

call it day. Mentions.

David:

And some honorable mentions. Yeah. Let's do it. Sound good?

Al:

Yeah.

Andy:

Cool.

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Let's get back to the show. And if you're already on Patreon, we are so grateful that you're helping us keep another Zelda podcast vibrant. And we are back. Katie, I wanna jump right into these, but let's just do a real quick bullet point recap of where we're at with our I guess it's the first four at the bottom of the list. It doesn't Yeah.

David:

There's no exact list here. It's just fun to build it. So what do we have so far?

Kady:

Alright. So we have the monk fight in Monk of Wild. DLC.

Al:

What a weird Oh,

Kady:

we got the air dungeon or air temple from Tears of the Kingdom.

Al:

Specifically, the Kul'Gera boss fight.

Kady:

Yeah. Specifically, Kul'Gera boss fight.

Al:

Yeah.

Kady:

Yes. The first time you see Blood Moon Rise Mhmm. And Breath of the Wild, and the diving down title screen at the beginning of Tears

David:

of Yeah. The Choose the King title screen. I'm cool with that.

Al:

Yeah.

David:

Calling it that. Absolutely. These are

Kady:

very brief bullet points.

Al:

So

David:

That's the whole point.

Kady:

Clarifying your points.

David:

So, Andy, now we're starting to get into the meat and the potatoes. What would be your second, at least for today, as we were building this list?

Andy:

So there is a moment that is more story, kinda like you were saying, a little bit of buildup, a little bit of just it's a cool scene. And I'm talking about Skyward Sword, specifically in the moment outside of the Temple Of Time where Geruhim is he's all over you, and it it does not look good for you. And it you you just you almost have Zelda. And, Al, you might have to help me out with the scene because I only remember, like, the actual scene, so I might get some of this buildup wrong.

Al:

Mhmm.

Andy:

But you you you've almost got Zelda. She's almost in your grasp, and and she's just out of reach, and Giraheme shows up, and you have to, you know, fend him off, and you're you're clearly not really up for the the task at this point. And so Impa has to step up, and she just blocks Ghirahim's attack with her own sword. And there's like this big like like collision between the two of them in this slow motion and like it's so awesome to to see She's

Al:

just using energy. She doesn't even have a weapon.

Andy:

Yeah. That's right.

Al:

Like an energy shield.

Andy:

Yeah. It's almost like Yeah. When you see like a martial arts movie and they kinda do like a cool move that just like it's like very very, you know, like

Al:

It's like

Andy:

effort or

Al:

something like swift. Yeah. Like to the point and her job was to shield Zelda.

Andy:

Yeah. Yeah. So anyway remember this now. It's a simple it's a quick moment too, but it was so like, I think we all remember that, and it's just like, man, this is cool. And, like, you know, it it really helps.

Andy:

Like, Girheme was such a fantastic villain. Mhmm. I think that this is the best version of Impa. Certainly, like, for me, like, with just her character design, thought was awesome.

David:

Yeah. No. I agree.

Andy:

Seeing, like, these these two cool cats go at it was super cool. And then you kinda have the added tension and drama of Zelda there, and you're you're so close to your goal, but yet so far. And and you kind of have this is almost like a the the post credit moment to this moment. But, like, when when Impa kinda says to you, like, like, listen, if you're gonna be a hero, like, you need to step up and be, like, a a real hero. Like like, what you're doing is not good enough.

Andy:

And it's kinda just like, man, like, who yikes. But, like, at the same time, you've kinda see her demonstrate her abilities and her power, and it clearly looks a lot, you know, more powerful than you. So Mhmm. It's it's very cool in, like, a a lot of different ways. But, you know, there there is something to be said for just two cool characters, you know, getting into it and going face to face even if the interaction only lasts for a moment.

David:

Yeah. Yeah. It's an amazing moment. You're absolutely right. And Impa in general, the I the Skyward Sword Impa, think, is my favorite Impa as well.

Andy:

Oh, yeah.

David:

Love the aesthetic. She she's kind of, I guess, you could say epic. It's it's interesting because she's not along for the ride often. She only pops in here and there, a a bit like Sheik and Ocarina.

Andy:

Mhmm.

David:

And but but but her presence and when she is in the game, it is it is so cool. Like, she's taking charge and she's letting Link know. There's a few times Yeah. There's a few times where she has that moment of like, I had to step in because you weren't here, so step it up. You know what I mean?

Andy:

Yeah. And like she she's very impactful and very just a just a very, like, great version of Impa. And and it was kind of like, you know, you you never really saw that. Like, Link's kind of this infallible guy who solves every problems, never does any wrong. So it was kind of like a breath of fresh air to see, you know, someone just be like, you know, you're not the hero yet.

Andy:

You need to you need to step it up. You need to become who you are supposed to be. I can't help it.

David:

Oh, yeah. What are

Al:

gonna say?

Andy:

I was

Kady:

gonna say, know it's not the topic for today, but it's one of the reasons why Skyward Sword Link, from what I've played so far, he's like one of my favorite Links. Just because he is he feels more like a person in terms of like, he feels like a kid. You know? Yeah. He he isn't like like he's really sleepy.

Kady:

He gets into fights with all the kids. He's like super in love with Zelda to the point of like his downfall and like Mhmm. All similar kind of stuff. He has his faults and I think that's really fun for him.

David:

Yeah. I had a friend once who started playing Skyward Sword HD just a couple years back, and just a few hours in oh, also had never played a Zelda game before. And a few hours in said, this is like a TV show. Is this what Zelda games are like? Because there's just so much narrative on the top of Skyward, you know?

David:

Well, you know, I kinda.

Andy:

Skyward Sword to me is kind of the point where where Link transforms more from, like, your your player avatar into, like, Link. Like, he Yeah. He's the character of Link. And and there's some elements there where he's still he's still kinda your avatar, but he's also Link. Like, he's got his own quirks and his own traits, and and they kinda gave him, you know, not not an entire journey, but, like, at least something to to chew on in terms of his character.

Andy:

So Mhmm. Yeah. No. I'm glad we have a lot. We've seen Skyward Sword

David:

people here. Yeah. I don't wanna dig in too hard, but we spoke a little bit about the facial animation system for Wind Waker Link on on your episode over on the Zelda cast. And I understand that that I'll call it animation system absolutely kept getting got grandfathered into Twilight and right into Skyward Sword. And I feel like Skyward Sword oh, also they rewrote the cutscene engine for Skyward Sword so that they could animate the characters as actual, like, keyframe animation

Al:

Mhmm.

David:

Instead of just trying to manipulate in game things and stuff like that. So I think that's where we get some more of that Link personality.

Al:

Mhmm. Yeah. Makes sense.

David:

Yeah.

Al:

Makes sense.

David:

So, Al, Al, what's your second on the list today?

Al:

Okay. I got I got you know, my next two are, like, pretty big moments in the series, so maybe maybe Katie needs cover her ears.

David:

Unless I mean, we're kind

Andy:

of like we're like

David:

AZP is, I think I would say spoiler friendly. We don't do spoiler casts, but it's kinda like, you know, we're talking about the games we play. It's all part

Al:

of the same guys. These, of course, are like twenty plus year moments, but I Yeah. You know, for new players, you know, so I just wanna get the spoiler warning.

David:

Well, once in a while yeah. Spoiler warning for our listeners, I love it. I appreciate it. But, like, even just earlier today, were having coffee in the morning, and you were telling me off mic, you're like, well, the the the the fifth whatever in Twilight Oh,

Kady:

yes. Yes.

David:

And I was like, what? Yeah. But then it but it made me more sense.

Al:

Well, it wasn't me.

David:

But actually Oh, it wasn't you?

Kady:

Oh. No. But but we

Al:

were having that discussion about the spirits.

David:

Oh, it was the it's John sitting next to you. That's right. That's right. I remember now. But but honestly, it just made me more excited to find

Al:

out. I

Kady:

was gonna say, I normally get more excited from the spirits. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Andy:

Well, mean, if you've played a Super Smash Bros game, this probably isn't new news.

Al:

If that's where you're going. Number one.

David:

Oh, I'm so sorry. Gosh.

Al:

I think

David:

I know. I think I know. Anyway, so number two. Here we go.

Andy:

Safe space.

David:

You're in a safe space.

Al:

Yeah. Okay. So we'll get to that one then for number one. But for number two is you're playing Wind Waker, and you get to the very this is I've the final boss battles are, like, really epic in Zelda, so I can't help but adding this one. Because you're fighting Ganondorf in Wind Waker, and, like, the music is super bombastic.

Al:

You got this big hulking guy and this tiny little 10 year old kid with you know, he's there to save Zelda and save the world essentially, and he knows he's the hero. And he's, like, he's, like, there to get work done. But for about four and a half minutes, Ganondorf has his monologue. He's kinda beating Link around a little bit, and it's like he's super intimidating. But when you finally fight him, it's really an, like, epic fight.

Al:

And then it ends with just this great shot of Link flipping up in the air and slamming that master sword down into Ganondorf's skull. Mhmm. And it's and then he turns into, like, stone. But it's just, like, from such a, like, cartoony looking game too, it's, like, such a morbid looking shot. But at the same time, it was just, yeah.

Al:

Like, I finally did it. I

David:

I mean, I and I think the graphics in Wind Wake, it's one of the more violent moments in a Zelda game Yes. Technically, like on paper.

Al:

There's a couple yeah. But yeah.

David:

But because of the art style, it works, and you're right. It's it does give you the, I think, the correct emotions, if I may.

Al:

Mhmm. Yes. Very much. It felt very accomplished when you just drive that.

David:

Because also, does the camera pan out a little? Isn't it like you see linked pop up and then it's like, ching, and then the camera kinda pulls back to reveal it. Am I this correctly?

Al:

Yeah. It's like, they hover there for a minute, like, oh, this just happened, you know. And then he starts to turn to stone, you know.

Andy:

Yeah. That's what it

David:

was. Yeah.

Al:

Yeah. That's an epic moment for me.

David:

I would say Ganondorf's demise in Wind Waker is what we've

Kady:

been doing this. I've I've wrote, like,

Al:

a little description for that one. Okay.

David:

Going going back to the setting too, it's just it's very cool

Andy:

to see, like, that water pouring around it. You feel like you're in imminent danger of, like, the you know, this place could overflood any second. Mhmm. And I think what actually, like, really adds to that and makes it even more awesome for me is, like, this is truly, like, the first time you've had, like, the three Triforce holders involved in, like, the same fight at the same time.

David:

That's true.

Andy:

Because because, you know, Zelda's more of a peripheral player in Ocarina of Time. And, like, in this one, she's, like, actively helping you in shooting Ganondorf. Yeah. And it's just it's such a again, it's an awesome buildup to that moment.

Al:

Yes.

David:

So Yeah. You're right. Yeah. She gives Link the light arrows in Ocarina, but in Wind Waker, she's shooting them. Yeah.

David:

Yeah. Yeah. Which is cool. Oh, I love it. Alright, Katie.

David:

Number two.

Kady:

So for my number two, I have so in Age of Calamity Mhmm. Which I know, again, I've said this in, like, previous episode, is widely debated whether or not people like it. But for me, during Age of Calamity, when you're playing as Link at the beginning and it's your first time getting to fight alongside the other knights of the Garrison

Andy:

Oh, cool.

Kady:

And you're running through, like, Hyrule who's it's, like, all, like, a completely built city fighting alongside your fellow knights in the streets trying to, like, keep the monsters at bay. Just because I really enjoy thinking about kind of like what it was like before with the calamity and who Link was and all that kind of stuff. And so it I love that game so much because of the story elements, even though a lot of it is a canon. But seeing, like, how did Link interact with his fellow knights? Did they like him?

Kady:

Did they not like him because he's a hero? No. They got along really well because Link was, like, the silly, like, dumb guy that will kind of did whatever whatever they said that he should do. He would just go for it and do it.

David:

Interestingly said, but you're not rattling a thousand enemies to tell us how you do. No.

Kady:

One of my favorite moments is when Zelda's having I think she's having, like, a kind of a serious conversation at with, like, some Gorons, and it pans over, and the knights are cheering Link on as he's trying to eat, like, a marbled rock roast, which is literal rock.

Al:

And she's like, what are you

Kady:

doing? I

Al:

like and, like, the words too. Urbosa's like, whatever challenge, he'll rise to it. He's over here eating rocks. Yeah. That's so funny.

Kady:

It's so funny. I love it. I love it so much.

Andy:

Yeah. You know, there are some really, like, really epic I I actually think of a moment specifically. I wanna say from chapter five in Age of Calamity where spoilers but you know you have some help come from another timeline. And like that that moment to me was like was also awesome.

Kady:

Oh yeah.

Andy:

I I do I do think after playing Age of Calamity I did kind of fall on the side where I wasn't all that satisfied. It's kind weird because I was I was very satisfied with the story actually in a bubble, but I I think it was more so like the the the way that they marketed it. They were kind of to your point, they're like, come see what Hyrule was like a hundred years before Mhmm. The Calamity. Mhmm.

Andy:

And and it wasn't quite that, like it kind of was, but it kind of wasn't Yeah. You know. So I I feel like I I maybe short sell Age of Calamity a little bit on on some of these moments.

David:

I feel I feel we share the same opinions there, Andy, but actually, I as you were speaking about this, Katie, I realized that some one of my favorite moments in Age of Calamity is kind of I I'll just call it that first level where you are linked with the knights. And guess what? You know, we've we've been we've been in Hyrule. We've played Zelda games. It's usually Link alone.

David:

It's usually Link on a solo mission. And what happens when it really is a war Yeah. To a degree. And you kinda get that in that first level. I think that's the moment you're kinda

Al:

talking about.

Kady:

Yeah. Because it's even like and I love in Tears of the Kingdom now. You can find people and fight alongside them.

Al:

Yes. Yeah.

Kady:

And you can see, like, they're actually doing damage. Like, if you leave them alone, they can actually kill some of these monsters themselves.

Andy:

Mhmm.

Kady:

And I'm glad that they brought that into Tears of the Kingdom because that was something I loved in Age of Calamity. Mhmm. Just that realness of fighting alongside your fellow knights.

Andy:

Mhmm.

Al:

Did you like the helping the Gerudo town, like, with the Gibdo nest? That felt very I to Calamity like. That.

Kady:

I loved that so much.

David:

Yeah. That that was awesome.

Al:

That was so cool. God.

Andy:

That was awesome.

David:

Yeah. Well, I don't think I've done that one yet, but I'm pushing through. Yeah. It's pushing through age. Awesome.

David:

My number two is I had to put it on here because I've spoken about it before, and I I think it just it needs to be on my list even though I kinda mentioned it before, you know, over the last six years of making this show. The for me, an epic moment, a definitively epic moment. I think there's a lot of technically epic boss battles in Twilight Princess, and I say technically because I think a lot of the boss battles are presented in an epic way, but sometimes, like, the big weird flying fish is epic, but you're really not actually doing that much. You know what I mean? You're kinda just jumping on the back and pushing a a lot.

David:

I have a boss battle from Twilight Princess that I feel that that the first time I played it, the second time I played it, the third time I played it, every single time I was like, oh, here we go. And it lasts, you know, a good five, ten minutes. And, of course, it's it's the Twilight Fossil star Star Lord. Yeah. And I think that is a wonderful boss battle.

David:

Everything that leads up to it when you're doing the the spinner on the bottom, and then there's the surprise element in the second half where you're going up on the walls. And, I mean, it feels as it feels like the freaking Star Wars trench run. It's so epic for me. Like, it's so cool. Anyways, I don't that so that's my set.

Andy:

On my honorable mentions, actually.

David:

Oh, really?

Andy:

Like, I think that you know, and we kinda it's kind of a running gag on the Zelda cast. I I kinda like to to take a few jabs and shots at Twilight Princess. But at the end of the day, like, I I really do like Twilight Princess a lot, And particularly, it's boss battles because I think there's, like, there's, like, a few boss battles that you could say.

Al:

Plus boss battles Yeah. In Twilight Princess.

Andy:

And I have one on my honorable mention that I wanna talk about actually when we get to that. But the the oh god. What is his name? Agnerok? The the dragon that you Agnerok?

Andy:

Yeah.

Al:

Of that major

Andy:

Like, one, you're swung around like Spider Man. It's awesome. But, like, I mean, Stallard may be one of the best boss fights in the series. Like, it it it's just so fun. And, like, man, you're you're zip zapping around on the spinner, and you're trying to hit him.

Andy:

And, like, it's it's so incredible. And even the phase before that, you got like this this army of skeletons. There's chaos everywhere and you're trying to just get that one perfect shot.

Kady:

Love the chaos. I love the chaos. Yeah.

David:

I know it gets it gets your emotions going. And I realized too even though you it's technically like a repeating situation, technically you're going around a column, when you enter the second phase of that fight, it doesn't stop moving. You're Yes. You are on the move and on the go the whole time and it just ramps up to that energy. And you might

Andy:

be on it too because there's those spikes that start coming around too that'll knock you off and Mhmm. And I just it's a very it's a high tempo, fast paced boss fight, which I appreciate as well. So, yeah, I I had that on

David:

my honorable mention. I think it's it's awesome. My last little thing I'll say about it is it was a really weird item for Nintendo to invent. I thought Yeah. Love the spinner though.

David:

One of my favorite items. I we had, like, we had, like, a top 10 favorite items. Definitely, the spinner was on there back in, like, season one. Mhmm. But then they so expertly, in more than one way, used that spinner in that boss fight so that we were playing a boss battle in a way that we had never played a boss battle in his own game before.

David:

That's just why it's on my list.

Al:

Yes.

Kady:

Very good.

David:

Alright. Here we go. The final four. No repeats yet.

Al:

No repeats yet.

David:

Andy So what is for today that your your most epic moment?

Andy:

So I had a a entry for number one, and and I'm kinda second guessing it because it's a more meta entry. Like, it doesn't take place in a Zelda game. So maybe I'll just save that for the honorable mentions, Okay. But if if if we were including that, it would be number one, probably by far, actually. But in terms of, like, something that takes place during a Zelda game, you just can't beat the first time you're playing A Link to the Past and it's misty and you're journeying through this forest and that magical, whimsical Lost Woods theme is playing and you've kinda, you know, you've turned around, you're going backwards, forwards, upside down, and you finally, finally enter that one peaceful, sacred little grove and you see this pedestal, this beam of light shining on it, and it's this incredible sword that you know is you you feel like king Arthur in this And you're like, I am in fact the hero that is gonna pull this sword out, and you know as soon as you do, evil is in trouble because you are going to do whatever it takes.

Andy:

And so you go up to the sword, you pull it out, that theme starts playing, and, you you have your you know, the first time that you ever take the master sword out. And I debated whether Ocarina of Time or A Link to the Past was was kind of the more epic one for me, but I I think there's just something, like, so, I don't know, romantic about finding that sword in the forest Oh, yeah. With the

David:

mist. There's even little critters that are scampering away as you walk up. It's gorgeous. Yeah.

Andy:

It it's just it's so, like, it just makes you feel like you're in this, like, classic Mhmm. Like, fairy tale or something like that or, like, adventure. Totally. And then you've got this incredible, like, mythical blade that, you know, now now you're gonna defeat Ganon. And now you have the ability to defeat Ganon.

Andy:

So the first time and that wasn't even my first Zelda, but I think that's the best version of of taking out the master sword.

David:

Yeah. Love it. Alright. Any thoughts, Al?

Al:

I mean, I I agree. And that was my first moment of pulling the master sword, which is cool because it's the first moment ever of pulling the master sword. So, you know, I played that with my brothers. We did it. It was super epic.

Al:

And then but I think it the feeling continues because then we played Ocarina of Time later together, and we were like, there it is. There's the master sword. So and, like and the fact that it continues to have, like, the legend and your partner throughout the series, I think it I think it it helps that moment build. Even though you the initial moment was epic, it makes it more epic that you can continue to have that moment throughout those series.

David:

There was even one of the early Breath of the Wild ended on the Master Sword in front of the Deku Tree. Mhmm. But in my opinion, the Breath of the Wild Master Sword is completely reinterpreting. In my for me, the A Link to the Past meadow. You know what mean?

David:

Very much the mist coming down. Yeah. Find the

Andy:

Deku Trees behind a little worse for wear. Yeah. Yeah.

David:

In that trailer when they finished with like just that little ping ding piano and they showed the master sword there, I I was transported back to A Link to the Past. Yes. And I you know, that was a really emotional moment.

Andy:

Yeah. I think that moment, I think of Ocarina of Time and Skyward Sword kinda gets you more even invested because you're, I mean, you're essentially making the Master Sword.

David:

Mhmm. In Breath of the Wild

Al:

Twilight's was a good one too.

Andy:

Yeah. Twilight of Princess is good. I mean, Tears of the Kingdom, like, yeah, there's a moment that I won't go into but

Al:

Oh, yeah.

Kady:

Yes. When you Yeah.

Andy:

When you get the Master Sword, it's like, oh, this is awesome. Yeah.

David:

I see. So that brings us to Alf, your number one for today.

Al:

Okay. Here's my number one.

David:

I'm ready.

Al:

Here's some spoilers for

Kady:

you twenty five years later.

David:

Let's do it.

Al:

Alright. The buildup to this is also fantastic because when you become adult Link in Ocarina of Time, you find you have another kind of companion who's watching over your shoulder the whole time, and that's Sheik. And Sheik kinda helps you get your teleportation songs, gives you all these words of wisdom, helps you on your journey. Clearly, Sheik is doing their own thing over here, helping people while she, he, they are watching Link get his job done. And then you get to the end, and you get the reveal of who Sheik is.

Al:

And it's like this like, I remember when I was a kid, I didn't see it coming because I was a child. But and maybe maybe if you played it as an adult, you could. But, like, when I was a kid and I was playing with my brothers, we were like, oh, yeah. Here's Sheik. Okay.

Al:

We're gonna go take Ganondorf together. And then Sheik does this, like, triforce movement and turns into Zelda. And we were like, woah. Like, our minds were completely blown. Like, 10 year old meme was just losing my marbles.

Al:

And it's so cool to know that, like, Zelda was with you on the journey all along, and, like, that she was also doing her part while hiding from Ganondorf. Because it's quite unfortunate that she's hiding from Ganondorf. The second she reveals herself, he's like, well, found you.

David:

Yeah.

Andy:

You know? Gotcha.

Al:

Yeah. Exactly. And, like, he knew Ganondorf knew all he had to do is pay attention to Link and that she would reveal herself. So it's just such an insane moment, and, like, I think it really also just set the tone for Zelda to have more involvement in the adventure with Link, not just Link going off to save Zelda.

David:

So Yeah. That's true.

Al:

Yes.

David:

That's true. And then even when you first meet Sheik the first couple times, yeah, Sheik's helping you ish, but you're still kinda like, is this for good? Is this for bad? What's going on here?

Al:

Mhmm.

David:

And to have that entire gaming experience of all those encounters with Sheik to be recontextualized with that reveal

Al:

Mhmm.

David:

Is is very it's like it washed over me for sure as a as a as a teenager.

Kady:

Yeah. Talking about because you said, oh, if you played Smash, they'll know this. So before I was even into Zelda at all, when I was really little and I think it was Smash on the Wii that I played, I remember thinking, like, whenever I saw Sheik, I was like, woah. He's really cool. Like, wow.

Kady:

Look at him go. And I don't remember how I found out if it was someone that I knew that played Zelda and mentioned it, or if I had seen it online or something, and I found out that Sheik was Zelda, who I had known as like pink dress, always gets captured. I was like, that's so cool. Like, she's a princess that can fight? That's crazy.

Kady:

Because I

Al:

I don't know. I was like 10.

Kady:

So I Hey, that's great. Yeah. Even without playing Zelda at the time, it still like meant a lot to me to find out that Sheik was Mhmm. Not a dude and that she was the princess and that was really cool. Mhmm.

David:

Love it. I had

Andy:

a moment like that with with Samus in Smash Bros. And I was like Yeah. Cool. Like, you know, like

David:

this is Your introduction to Samus was through Smash Bros?

Andy:

Yeah. Yeah. It was. And I was

David:

like I am old.

Andy:

Was like, this guy this robot guy is awesome. Like, I wanna play his game. And I was like, what do mean her? Like, what? What?

Andy:

And I was like, oh, okay. Cool. And then, you know, played Super Metroid and he was a fan for life. But, yeah, I mean, that moment is, like, legitimately shocking

Kady:

Mhmm.

Andy:

I think. And think I had the moment room for me, but, like, I wish I could go back in, like, time and just, like, see like, I think we take it for granted now because, like, I think everybody knows that.

Al:

Yeah. It's kinda one of those things that, like, once you know it, like, the reveal isn't as epic.

Andy:

It's kinda like watching The Sixth Sense, like, you know, you

David:

know Oh, yeah. Of It's almost Darth Vader father stuff at this point. Know

Andy:

what Yeah. Or even better. But, like, I think that would have been just, like, legitimately shocking.

Al:

Yes. It was. It was. Like like I said, it was all my brothers and I in one room watching this this moment unfold, and it was pretty outstanding.

David:

Because also by the time the reveal happens, at least for me, I was starting to lean on Link or Sheik emotionally as a friend. I was like, okay, this person is becoming a friend. What? You know,

Al:

they Yeah. Yeah.

David:

All that changes around. Awesome. Alright, Katie. Let's do your number one.

Kady:

So my number one is very recent. So Tears of the Kingdom. You have all of your hearts, you have all your stamina, you're you're like, oh, I'm me from the last game. That's perfect. And you go down and you have this moment with Ganon and it's super creepy.

Kady:

He turns to you. You try and fight him. He breaks your master sword. You cut him slightly, but it's just not working. Zelda's falling.

Kady:

You're trying to grab her. You get grabbed, and then you just watch as it completely takes all of your stamina and drains all of your hearts from you. And you're like, oh my god. Yes. This is terrifying.

Kady:

And then you're back to kinda square one. But that moment I know, logically, it's good for a gameplay standpoint Right. For them to kinda get you back to how you were without having to be like, magic rules.

David:

That's little bit of Metroid thing.

Kady:

Yeah.

Al:

Yeah.

Kady:

But I think the way

Al:

they did it was a really good way to set Ganon up and the Gloom up.

Kady:

Yeah. Because seeing it, like because it also has a sound effect of like, do do do do do. Yeah. Taking all of your stuff away. I it genuinely kind of scared me.

Kady:

It made me really worried for like what was gonna come.

Al:

Mhmm. Mhmm. Yep.

David:

It's so fascinating too because they're using the game UI to communicate what's being felt in in the game. You know what I mean? The literal like, it's the literal dials going down. Isn't that right? Yeah.

David:

If I remember correctly?

Andy:

Mhmm. You meant you said it it was very Metroid, actually, and I I thought it was very smart.

Al:

I thought it was smart too, because we were talking about it Yeah. Pre tiers, like because they did the gameplay showing with Eiji Aonuma, and he's like, yeah, look, out the sky islands. And Andy and I are like, look at those three star or those three hearts, you know, or the four hearts. And we're like we were, you know, dabbling between ideas of how are they gonna weaken link so that it doesn't feel cheap. And it was very smart what they did.

Al:

I thought I when I saw it, I was like, yep. That okay. Makes total sense.

Kady:

Yeah. The way they did that because so one of my favorite I need to play the old three, but one of my favorite games in recent year is God of War and God of War Ragnarok.

Al:

Yeah.

Kady:

And I was really disappointed in Ragnarok when they were like, oh, you don't have any of that stuff because the magic is dying. And it's like, okay, the magic's dying. Why don't I have my axe? You know? Yeah.

Kady:

So that was, like, disappointing. Whereas when I played it with Link, I was like, okay. No. See, this is how you do that. Like, that's perfect.

Andy:

And and just one last thing, like, I I again, to harp on it, but I I think, like, the presentation and buildup, like, really sells this moment too because, like, you just you're going deeper and deeper and deeper and the and that that Discord music that's slightly off note, it's very unsettling Yeah. Starts to kinda ramp up, get a little bit louder, a little bit creepier until you finally, you know, reach that room and it kinda reaches a crescendo, and then it it it adds to that moment and kinda sells the danger and sells the the threat of of Ganondorf.

Al:

I mean

David:

we would've jumped into Mummy Ganondorf coming up, it wouldn't be the same. It needs that fifteen minutes, doesn't it?

Andy:

Yeah. I think so. Yeah.

Kady:

Yeah. And then it was like the complete fact too of like Link who was

Al:

normally like this stoic being.

Kady:

Like you could see he was like genuinely fearful. He was like in pain as it took his arm and Zelda's scared and she's getting thrown off the cliff

Al:

and you're like, what's happening?

Andy:

It's Mhmm.

Kady:

It's so chaotic but it's so good.

David:

Oh, I just wanna go back and see it again. Anyways, wow. Yeah. That's great. Love it, Katie.

David:

My microphone thing is squeaking. Okay. So my number one is I feel like it might be obvious, but I have to recognize that I have to do it and also because so I most recently, just before coming here, honestly just two days ago, recorded an episode of one of our blog writers. His name's Kevin and he and I are very close to the same age and we're both old enough that we experienced all of the Zelda games in real time as they came out. Right.

David:

I, as an eight year old, rented the original The Legend of Zelda. And so for the past thirty years, I've been experiencing this, you know, I guess in real time is the way to say it. And so some some of these beats, you know, the chic thing was authentic. It was really happening. It wasn't like, oh, I think there's a twist that happened twenty years ago.

David:

It all it was like, you know, we didn't really have the Internet in that way yet. It was still, like, very web one point o. It was very just reading websites, so there wasn't really the the chats going on as much. But those things were were all very epic. So you would have to share those with your friends, but I don't I'm getting off off topic.

David:

The point is, I think if you are experiencing the Zelda games in release order and in real time, The literal most epic moment that's ever happened in any Zelda game ever in that context is Ganon at the end of Ocarina of Time. Okay. Because and it's specifically Ganon when he when those axes come down and the lightning cracks behind him and he's in his beast form, we the closest at that point, Ganon had a beast form, but it was like a, you know, a four tile pixel Yeah. Big fat pig. And that's all it ever was.

David:

Ganon was never scary. I mean, technically kinda scary maybe in the first game because he had pointy ears, but come on. He was two colors. Yeah. You know?

David:

And when that when I when at doing the castle and coming all the way down as a kid and you you do the the the ping pong, you play tennis with Ganondorf, and and you defeat him, you're like, woah, that was pretty intense. Mhmm. And you do the castle run, and then you realize, wait, it's just beginning. And specifically, we because we were just entering an era an era of three d video games, and and the industry was still trying to figure out even how to make three d video games in those in those years or those surrounding years, we didn't know it was possible. We didn't know what cutscenes would look like in three d.

David:

You know? You just kinda had to experience it as you went. The I mean, the most epic cutscenes before Ocarina of Time were kind of like the end credits of Super Mario 64. That's about as, like, crazy as it got with a camera swooping around levels. You know what I mean?

David:

And all of a sudden, to have this, like, experience where you see I mean, he felt like he was nine hundred feet tall, you know, from the camera angle, and he's really not. And you think that was the first moment in any Zelda game ever for me where I was like, oh, I don't know how to I don't know what I'm gonna do. Yeah. What? I it's in five seconds, this cutscene's ending, and I do not know what I'm gonna do.

David:

Right. And then you panic and run around and try to figure it out. And so for me, I do think that that needs to be on the list as a definitive Mhmm. Epic, put a pin in it. The course of Zelda changed a little bit with that boss fight.

David:

Yes. And it changed naturally, but that is really a moment that I think needs to be recognized. Mhmm.

Andy:

Incredible. I I have to admit, I would have put that on my list, but I I had a feeling that one of you two might have put that on yours. So I was like, you know what? I'll save it. But it's it's so incredible.

Al:

I feel like, I think the cinematography really helps it too because, like, you just get down from, like, this this tower is, like, falling, and it, like, pummels into, like, this, like, you know, just flat emptiness. And you're like, you there's a second where you both breathe you and Zelda breathe, and you're like, oh, okay. Cool. And then he, like, comes out of the rubble, and he's, like, floating, and he, like, pulls. I love it when Ganondorf just absolutely loses it, and he's like, I'm just gonna consume all power to to kill you.

Al:

Yeah. And and he does that a few times and, like, where he does that and then he turns into this beast, it's just so cool. Yeah.

David:

That's And there's even a split second where you kind of only see the glowing eyes and then the lightning cracks and you actually see the silhouette and you're you're like, that looks pig like, but it also looks like a demon and also, like, what am I gonna do? Yeah.

Andy:

You know, there there's a little moment that sells it to you that just makes it so good. And that's like every boss that you face in this game has, a little subtitle or, like, a little title card where it's, like, like, a scourge of Jabu Jabu Yeah. Whatever. Like, the the demon king Ganondorf. And this one, it's just like it's just Ganon.

Andy:

Just Ganon. Like, this and it it seems like that that just makes it to me seem like, oh, man. Like, this is this is a big deal here. And this is and it's like, the the character model is so awesome. And, like, thank goodness they didn't make him blue, they they you know, he's not kind of this chubby pig anymore.

Andy:

He's like this wicked monster.

David:

You know?

Andy:

It's it's so good.

David:

And, you know, in these days, when you play it, you can get it done in a couple seconds sometimes. Yeah. But but as a kid, as a as a 10 year old or whatever age I was, 14 year old, yeah, because I was in high school. But, anyway, you're running around for five, ten minutes. You don't know what you what you when you don't know the puzzle yet of it and where to hit and what to do Mhmm.

David:

You are just fighting for your life, and you're getting hit and you're trying to figure it out anyways.

Andy:

Yeah. Allison at the Zelda Ninja marathon

Al:

last Woah. No. We don't have

David:

to What happened? What happened?

Al:

Died again and twice. Oh. And I was the last one to finish, and it's really embarrassing.

Andy:

I think I just squeaked by.

Al:

My brother, like, hopped in the chat, and he donated some money. And he's like, yeah. Got all a sudden, and then I died. And I was like, oh my god.

David:

He distracted you.

Al:

And then Andy, he was like right behind me and he turned to me and he's like, I'm sorry. I have to do this because we were neck and neck the whole time. So we didn't know who was gonna win. And he's like, I love you. And we're like

Andy:

The final shot. Stood up.

Al:

You know, like HBK

Andy:

to Ric Flair. Yeah. So no. It's it's such

Al:

a good moment. It is a good moment. I got to experience it three times last year. So yay. Yeah.

Al:

That's nice.

David:

Alright. So I think we'll just do a quick hot lap of our monoblat mentions, but in no particular note you know, honestly, there isn't a singular one or a singular number five or singular number six because we all just picked three. But why don't we go bottom to top here? Let's just recap our our our list of 12.

Kady:

Alright. And like I said, I jotted these down really fast. So if you wanna Mhmm. Talk more about it, go for it. Ganon, end of Ocarina of Time has

David:

top to bottom. Okay.

Kady:

Let's Top do to oh, sorry.

David:

Let's build up.

Kady:

Top top.

David:

Oh, I kinda gave myself the final spot by accident by going around this way. It doesn't really matter. There's no exact thing. Let's just go for Alright. Ganon is one of them.

Kady:

Losing your hearts and stuff at the beginning of Tears of the Kingdom. Mhmm. Sheik's reveal. Yeah. A link to the past pulling the master sword.

Andy:

Mhmm. Mhmm.

Kady:

Twilight fossil stalwart, I think is what you called it.

David:

The Twilit fossil stalwart. Stalord. Okay.

Al:

It's a big it's a big skull.

Kady:

Age of Calamity fighting alongside the knights. Wind Waker, Link flipping and slamming Ganondorf at the boss fight. Skyward sword Impa blocks Keerum. Diving

Al:

down

Kady:

the beginning of Tears of the Kingdom, the blood moon rise first time you see it, the specific air dungeon boss fight Yeah. And the monk.

Andy:

Monk Maz Keshia.

David:

Guys, this Mas Keshia. Is great. This list is all over the place. I love it.

Al:

Yeah. It's it's great.

Andy:

It's eclectic. It's good.

David:

Yeah. That's cool. Alright. Well, let's go let's go around one more time. If anybody has honorable mentions, can like Andy, you've got a few, let's just do all of them real quick.

David:

Why don't you just mention them? I've got like three here.

Andy:

Yeah. I've got four. So I would say this is the meta one that I was talking about, but I'll never forget watching the 2017 Switch trailer for Breath of the Wild. Mhmm. Like the last trailer where like that epic music, that epic and this one meant so much to me because it was like, you know, coming out of the darkest days of the Wii U where, like, Nintendo's future was kinda, like, murky at this point, and it's like this game kinda needed to hit.

Andy:

And and every a lot was riding on this. Like, everything was riding on this. And this last trailer and there's a specific moment towards the end where you just there's this really quick shot where the Zelda theme kicks in and Link is riding in Mona,

Al:

and it's

Andy:

just so awesome. Yes.

Al:

Yes. Yes.

Andy:

So if if we were talking, like, outside of the game moment, this would have been number one. Yeah. But, yeah, I think it's great. I love the the King Bulbin boss fight from Twilight Princess because you fight him a couple times. First of all, you fight him on the dridge you're on on the bridge rather, you're you're jousting and you you knock him off.

Andy:

You fight him again, he lights the the barn on fire. Then third time you fight him in Hyrule Castle, and he he kinda has this this character arc where he's like, you know what? You're strong and I respect you. Like, let's we're good. And I was like, yes.

Andy:

Alright. Great. Yeah. I think

David:

you've been a character that's kinda hunting you down a little bit narratively. Yeah. It's cool.

Andy:

It's just kind of like a nice little character arc for this throwaway character. I do think spoilers for Tears of the Kingdom. It's all good. But there is a, a place in the depths called the Gleeok Den. And as you might imagine, there is a Gleeok there, and he is infused with Gloom.

Andy:

And that fight was awesome. Wow. And I had a a wild pick here, but in the majestic spin off game, freshly picked Tingles, rosy, rupee land, you are fighting a boss who his name is uncle rupee, and he's like the manifestation of greed, and he's modeled after Hugh Hefner. And each time you feed him more rupees, he turns into this like more rich and lavish guy. And eventually, he turns into he almost looks like Andross from Star Fox, and you're just you're fighting him and shooting rupees at him, and it's just the most wild, like, thing you've ever seen.

Andy:

And it's it's so awesome and

David:

sound epic. Yeah.

Andy:

I I had I had to sneak that into here somehow.

David:

I love it.

Andy:

So, yeah.

Kady:

Uncle Ruby. I

David:

love it. Elle, any honorable mentions at all?

Al:

I had too many, but there's one that's just, like, been sitting in the back of my mind as we talk have been talking, and then, like, it's Tears of the Kingdom related, but I it's not story related. It's fight related. So when you fight Ganondorf at the end, there was this moment where I lost my ever living mind because one of Link's, like, most famous moves is the perfect dodge. And when you dodge, you, like, backflip and you do, like, slow mo. Well, there's a moment well, there's several.

Al:

But with the first moment where I swung my sword at Ganador, and he does a perfect dodge, and my brother and I were like, oh my god. I could not wait to see that.

Kady:

You go

Andy:

flurry rush, you're like,

Al:

I got you. Yeah. Exactly. No way. And the only the only way it could be even more epic if he does if he did flurry rush you, he does not.

Al:

But, like, that would just make, like, cherry on the cake. It was so good because it made me feel like I've met my match.

Kady:

Like, this

Al:

is it. And it was so god. It was so good. I I was screaming.

Kady:

I was so excited for it.

David:

That's cool. Any any for you, Katie? I wanna see you Yeah.

Al:

No. I'm good. Yeah.

Kady:

I had two. My first one is getting to drive and fire the Guardians in Age of Calamity. Because you get to drive them all around. I think that's kind of fun and cool. Yeah.

Kady:

And then my second one was the specific memory that you get in Breath of the Wild where you see Link getting taken out by the Guardians. Mhmm. Because I think that was a really cool moment of, like, this character that I play as that I'm like, oh, no one can beat me. Seeing Link quite literally die before getting brought back

Al:

Mhmm.

Kady:

It's kinda cool.

David:

Yeah. Wow. I got three of them real quick here. One the reason this one's an honorable mention is because it's kind of a mini version of the Ganon fight in Ocarina, but the you know, I said, like, the I had that moment with Ganon of the I love it when a boss gives you that, like, I really don't know what I'm gonna do next feeling. And the first time I technically felt that was King Dodongo, you know, in the early parts of Oh, yeah.

David:

You know, it's it's such an easy little boss battle fight, but that first time where they can't the the point of view is coming at Link, and then we switch back and there's a huge roar. An eight year old, a 10 year old, 12 year old, you're like, I don't know how I'm gonna do any do any of this. And then pretty quickly, you start finding the patterns, but that little cut scene was one of them. I actually think that the Ganondorf fight at the end of Twilight Princess is quite good. There's a good buildup.

David:

There's, you know, many stages and layers, but the one thing I love about that one, it's almost the opposite of Ocarina of Time. Instead of going from Ganondorf to, know, beast Ganon or whatever, you know, we actually experience a beast Ganon and it all kind of comes down to justify, which sounds like kind of is what happens in tears of the kingdom here a little bit. Like, it might just be mano a mano at a certain point anyway. So I thought that was kinda epic too, and you got the flames and all that kind of stuff. And then lastly oh, I don't know.

David:

This was just a this is a nice little little sprinkle sprinkle on the cupcake, but, again, have to think about the context before any three d Zelda game ever came out ever, and it was Legend of Zelda, you know, Zelda two

Al:

Mhmm.

David:

A Link to the Past, and Link's Awakening. I remember playing Link's Awakening on Game Boy, and with those limited graphics, the first time that the game felt big for me was going up to the egg. Mhmm. You know, just you a couple scrolls, it's like only one or two scrolls, and you see it, you see the horizon, and

Andy:

trying to think of some moments from those games.

David:

I was like, I I

Andy:

think those make me sad in a lot

Al:

of ways.

David:

Yeah. Yeah. Like, there's it's like, what yeah. What's epic? Because, like, there's plenty of moments in Majora's Mask that are impactful.

David:

Yes. But, like, are you like are you like, yeah. You know what mean?

Al:

We, in fact, we even struggled with that because we did in top tens emotional episode for our Patreon. And we were like, there's too many in this one's half. You only have to pick like one.

Andy:

Yeah. Yeah. So like it is is the moon crashing epic? Yeah. Yeah.

Andy:

Kind of like, but but it's also kinda sad.

David:

So that's like Exactly.

Kady:

No. I I I think two are the same. That's why I'm like, when Link gets killed, when Link does it.

David:

Oh my gosh. Well, that was a blast. Thank you so much.

Andy:

Thanks for having us.

David:

Yeah. Let's let's let's you even though apparently, you know, most of our listeners also listen to the Zelda cast anyway, why don't you shout out your show again and then let people know where they can

Andy:

find you? All you out.

Al:

No. I can't do it. You can

David:

go Oh, we were joking off Mike. Al and I were joking off Mike about how actual outros are actually kinda awkward for us.

Al:

I can't do outros to save my life.

Andy:

Alright. Alright. Alright. Yeah. You can check us out, over at the Zelda cast.

Andy:

We are, you know, we're obviously part of Zelda Dungeon. So if you wanna join our Discord or check out zeldadungeon.net, you'll be able to find us pretty easily. You can check us out over on Twitter at the Zelda cast. I'm at Spataria three sixteen. Al is at Alice and Aletha.

Andy:

And wherever you get your podcast, you can check us out. Like, subscribe, recommend to that Zelda fan in your life. And, you know, we we love we love those five star reviews. We also have a Patreon, as Al was just alluding to as well. It's it's very new, so, maybe we'll get some pointers from you.

Andy:

But, yeah, we're we're all over the place.

David:

Hi to our magical sword people. Woo. Hey, guys. They've hanging out with us.

Andy:

Yeah. So, you know, just type in the Zelda cast. We're we're not hard to find. We usually livestream our shows every Sunday around

David:

That's cool.

Andy:

Yeah. We we, you know, we we fool around for a little bit on Twitch. We usually have a little technical difficulties, maybe some some coffee talk Yeah. Until we get going. So that's usually around 02:00 eastern,

David:

I wanna

Andy:

say That's on Sundays.

David:

I listen to you on just like Apple Podcasts, but Yeah. But I do catch some YouTube clips. Didn't know you stream. That's kinda neat. Maybe I'll try to check-in once in while if I'm working at the right time

Andy:

and throw in

David:

a second monitor.

Andy:

Sometimes it's fun to just, you know, see see the faces as well. So Yeah. So, yeah, we we do that. And then, yeah, we're we're we're all over Zelda Dungeon, and we're and we're we're gonna be part of the marathon here still for a couple days. So Yeah.

Andy:

Lots of lots of places you can check us out.

David:

Katie and I sadly leave tomorrow. We stayed here absolutely as long as we could, of which the amount of days that I could ask off work and not and not be fired. Yeah. So we're here for the three days, but, it'll be sad for us to go. We can't wait to keep watching the marathon.

David:

Of course, our listeners are hearing this a couple weeks after the marathon's happened. Hopefully, if hopefully, they're watching. Hopefully, they watched a couple weeks ago. Mhmm. We've been tweeting about it a lot and all of that.

David:

It's fun to share. So so grateful to be invited. So happy to see the two of you again. I feel like this is probably becoming an annual thing, and even if there's a reason where it isn't, still gotta find a way to make sure that we get together once a year at least or something.

Andy:

I think I can safely say that it's like like I said yesterday, we kinda joked, like, it's like the mafia. Once you're part of the family, you can't get out. So get out.

David:

Well, we've we were having the time of our lives here and it's and it's an absolute blast. And so just real quick with another Zelda podcast, you can find us at anotherzeldapodcast.com where you can get, you can read all of our blog posts, you can check out some older episodes, you could go find our conversation from a year ago if you haven't already listened to it. I think that one literally says the Zelda cast in the title by the way.

Al:

Nice.

David:

Hanging out with the Zelda cast or something like Or you can go to our Instagram, which is another Zelda pod. Remember the thing where I said how outros are actually difficult for me now? And you can find us on Twitter at another Zelda podcast and find us on all the major podcast things. There it is. Really, at the end of the day, just Google another Zelda podcast and you will find some things.

David:

I kinda skipped you, I just realized. Where can people find you?

Kady:

You can find me at my website, kadyroberts.com or you can find me on Instagram at mind underscore of underscore k a d y.

David:

That's excellent. I'm on wrap I'm I'm wrapped up paint at Instagram and Twitter. There it all is. Thanks everybody. Thank you to our patrons for hanging out with us here and watching watching the show.

David:

And guys, let's get back to the marathon, I guess.

Al:

Let's do it. Yeah.