Tanya Griffin - Sex, Drugs, & Counterculture

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True Life Podcast Transcript: Tanya Griffin – Sex, Drugs, & Revolution

Host: George (True Life Podcast)

Guest: Tanya Griffin

Length: ~1.5 hours

Introduction

George: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the True Life Podcast. I hope you’re all having a beautiful holiday season. Prepare to be inspired by a force of nature in entrepreneurship and women’s health… Her superpower? Pairing razor-sharp business development acumen with an infectious positive spirit… Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Tanya Griffin.

Tanya: Thank you, George. Wow. That was quite the intro. I appreciate it.

Early Conversation: AI, Authenticity, and Poetry

George shares that he uses AI to polish his poetry and encourages everyone to use AI tools to create the best versions of themselves.

They discuss AI as an essential tool in building tech stacks (MedTech, etc.) and the importance of maintaining authentic voice while leveraging time-saving solutions.

George praises Tanya’s fearless authenticity — seen in protests, spoken word, dance, and building businesses.

Tanya’s Background

•  Oldest of 10 kids, grew up poor.

•  Started waiting tables at 15 (lying about age).

•  First restaurant at ~20 — a turnkey Lebanese spot in the 1990s.

•  Opened a falafel market on a college campus.

•  Had first child (Sam) around age 26–27 (1995).

•  Restaurant life became hard with kids → pivoted to Kangaroo Kids (maternity/resale/support center).

Tanya jokes about her romantic history: married an Irish poet first (“learn your trade” = supported him financially), then a guitar player → full “sex, drugs, and rock ’n’ roll” vibe from the start.

Counterculture, 1960s Vibes, and Today’s Energy

Both share love for mid-60s/late-70s music and aesthetics. Tanya’s home is fully mid-century; she never left the 1960s vibe.

They discuss feeling a new countercultural wave rising — people in streets, shifting dialogue on LinkedIn, collective frustration with status quo.

Tanya: “We’ve had it. We don’t want this anymore. We’re going to fight a little bit.”

Shame, Stigma, and Prohibition

Core soapbox topic: pushing back on shame and stigma around sex and drugs.

•  Grew up with heavy religious messaging (Catholicism, abstinence, “drugs in one bucket”).

•  Dangers of lumping cannabis/psilocybin with heroin/fentanyl.

•  Tanya is outspoken about prioritizing daily sex, responsible drug use — to normalize it for others (especially her 6 kids and grandkids).

•  Breastfeeding publicly → faced shame but leaned in.

•  Cultural fear of authentic female sexuality (from breastfeeding to procreation).

On porn industry extremes vs. healthy sexuality:

•  Rejects pendulum swinging to extremes (pedophilia, abusive content vs. shaming basic education).

•  Advocates nuance, open dialogue, and not letting extremes censor authentic sensuality.

•  Personal taste: classic Tinto Brass-style artistic erotica.

•  Encourages couples to make their own content.

Rage vs. Sex in Social Media

George and Tanya note shift: “Sex sells” used to dominate, but algorithms now reward rage/outrage more than sex.

OnlyFans success shows people still crave authentic creator-driven intimacy.

Drugs, Moderation, Intention, and WeFlow

Tanya defines flow states: orgasm, runner’s high, deep focus writing poetry, etc.

WeFlow (early-stage project):

•  App/platform for tracking microdosing, stacking, contraindications, and personal benchmarks.

•  Goal: educate safe, intentional use instead of blind party consumption.

•  Inspired by Paul Stamets-style stacking (e.g., psilocybin + lion’s mane).

Strong advocacy for:

•  Harm reduction (free Narcan via her nonprofit Save My Life).

•  Ending demonization — we never stopped doing drugs; we just re-shame different ones.

•  Gen Z ditching alcohol for psychedelics, social wellness events.

Tanya’s personal “drugs to the grave” list:

1.  Coffee (daily cortado)

2.  Topical/oral estrogen

3.  Silicone lube (in every room)

4.  Cannabis (anti-inflammatory, yoga enhancement)

5.  Classical psychedelics (with intention)

Critique of alcohol glorification vs. psychedelic potential.

Psychedelics’ Broader Potential

•  Neuroplasticity breakthroughs (e.g., psilocybin + rabies virus tracer study lighting up half-million new connections).

•  Healing trauma, depression, PTSD, dementia.

•  Creative explosion (Steve Jobs, tech leaders, Lennon/McCartney).

Once pathways are built → can access similar states sober via breathwork, yoga, muscle memory.

Audience Q&A

Maya (Brooklyn): What inner compass do you use when rules lag behind human truth (women’s health, sex tech)?

→ Tanya loves highly regulated spaces — less competition. Pivoting fast keeps her ahead. Journey: colostrum → cannabis → cum.

Daniel (Austin): How do you convince investors to take intimacy/pleasure markets seriously?

→ Extremely hard; Tanya mostly self-funded. Stay lean, grow organically. Pay-to-play marketing now dominant. Tech side (data/analytics) easier to fund than CPG sex products.

Anonymous: Will psychedelics follow cannabis legalization path?

→ No — different risk/dosing profile. Likely more pharmacy-controlled. Concerns about over-regulation, big pharma takeover, loss of 280E relief vs. FDA/DEA control.

Aisha (Oakland): What did you unlearn about femininity, leadership, success to build healing vs. extractive companies?

→ Never chased money — chased solving problems. Embraces divine feminine leadership: empowering team like raising kids. Loves ESOP model (employee ownership).

Sophia (Toronto): Are fintech/medtech/sextech separate industries or one ecosystem?

→ One evolving ecosystem — skills transfer (wireframing, development).

Elena (Mexico City): In taboo cultures, how do you build liberating products/narratives without imposing?

→ Push back on shame directly. Read the room slightly, but use warranted shock value to wake people up and spark curiosity.

Liam: What has entrepreneurship taught you about risk, love, and trust?

→ Risk-taking reduces fear over time. Failure = learning. Trust in self grows with practice.

Closing

Tanya invites connection via LinkedIn (no sales pitches), Substack/YouTube “Yes to Sex,” dispensary products (Oh Yes, Honey), upcoming live sex/drugs/flow talks.

George thanks audience members by name and signs off: “Be part of the counterculture. Aloha.”

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George Monty

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[00:00] Introduction and Welcome
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the True Life Podcast… welcome Tanya Griffin. Thank you for being here. Thank you, George. Wow. That was quite the intro. I appreciate it. I’m stoked you’re here like you have been crushing we’ve been talking on these back channel forums for a while and of course our work has been intersecting here and there and so the conversation’s long overdue that’s right i agree man.
[01:30] AI and Poetry
You know before we got started we were warming up and we were talking about poetry… They’re really not. How have you been using AI these days, Tanya? You know, like you, as a tool, and we’ll get into WeFlow.
[05:00] AI as a Tool in Business and Authenticity
But when you start building tech stacks… Yeah. Well, I think you’re an expert, like an experience. And I think that that’s where… living your life. Oh yeah. Well, I’m shameless in the sense that I’m not going to hold my voice back.
[10:00] Tanya’s Early Life and Entrepreneurship
You know, when I think of authenticity… first restaurant when I was twenty, thirty years… So, but the restaurants, that was my first, that was my first entrepreneurial sort of a dance.
[15:00] Family, Marriage, and Sex Drugs Rock n Roll
Man. How old were you when you had your first kid?… Man, you are sex, drugs, and rock and roll from the beginning. Yeah. Through and through, baby.
[20:00] Counterculture and 1960s Vibe
Do you feel like, sometimes I feel like we’re in the midst of that transition again… yeah man i’m not um there’s a great book called back to the eighties.
[25:00] Current Energy and LinkedIn Shift
Do you feel like – I kind of feel like I want to be an agent of bringing back this counterculture… collectively we’re a force yeah you know if if the one percenters.
[30:00] Shame and Stigma Around Sex and Drugs
I think we have to stand up and stop living in fear and shame… If I have any soapbox, George, it is pushing back on shame and stigma.
[40:00] Pushback, Female Sexuality, and Hypocrisy
The reason I’m so forthright… why do you think that there is so much same? … culturally terrified of female sexuality.
[50:00] Porn Industry vs Healthy Sexuality
As humans, we want to have sex with each other… What about the difference between open sexuality and like the porn industry?
[55:00] Rage vs Sex in Algorithms and OnlyFans
Yeah. It’s such a good question… I would prefer that we were selling sex over rage. And if we look at the creator economy, I mean, let’s talk about OnlyFans.
[60:00] Parallels Between Sex and Drugs, Moderation
So if we take it back to the base level… There’s such an interesting parallel between sex and drugs.
[70:00] WeFlow and Flow States
So microdosing when we’re talking about these drugs… what you brought up WeFlow, like what is going on over there?
[80:00] Harm Reduction, Gen Z, Alcohol Decline
So I think that what we’ve lost in this demonizing… George, here’s what’s so exciting to me about watching alcohol.
[90:00] Personal Drugs List and Intention
So I think we got to be smart… I posted something the other day. I have five drugs I’m taking to my grave.
[95:00] Psychedelics and Awareness
I love it. I love it. You know what? If I, if I bring it back… How can we not think that? Knowledge is power.
[100:00] Neuroplasticity and Healing/Creativity
I posted on LinkedIn, George, the other day… It’s the it’s beyond the medical container.
[110:00] Practice and Accessing States Sober
All these ideas of escape… But once you’ve gone to that space, your mind can get there without it.
[115:00] Audience Q&A Starts
I got a couple of questions stacking up for you… This one comes to my friend from Maya.
[120:00] Q&A Continued
Whoa maya thank you great question… beautiful answer what tanya that it makes me curious.
[130:00] More Q&A and Closing
Yeah i definitely see a lot of differences… Aloha. George, thank you.