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Speaker 1 0:20
Ben, welcome to the stand outdoors, the show where faith and the great outdoors come together. I'm Dave Baker, along with the founder of the stand outdoors, the Right Reverend, Mike Hayes, and I always say the Right Reverend, I don't know why. And today we're talking about Turkey Calls. The best of the rest, we have got some calls to play for you. We're going to be talking about turkey hunt that's coming up. And Mike, I don't know if you agree with me or not. Maybe you will, but I believe turkey hunting, hunting turkeys, one of the most difficult animals to hunt North America. They are hard. And I know in West Virginia at least, they are most difficult birds, at least in that portion of the United States. I know some folks in Pennsylvania have, I would say, based on my conversations, a little easier time. But I'm telling you, the birds in West Virginia are difficult.

Speaker 2 1:25
Yeah, I think the I've read this many times, you know, many articles and stuff that the Eastern bird is one of the hardest birds to harvest. I don't know why, but that's what you know. That seems to be the consensus that they are tough and and, you know, they have eyesight, like a human with a 20 power scope, so they can pick you up from pretty far away. And so you got to really watch out. And they're, and they're just really looking like crazy, you know, they think that anything that moves in the woods is out to kill them.

Speaker 1 1:56
So they're very alert. And we talked about this before they have spies. They send spies. They're very tricky tricks or and I tell you one thing, you can get them on the hook with one of these calls, and we're going to be doing some today, yeah, but then they just get so far, and then they just either shut up or they won't come any further. And I don't know, yeah, I'm not smart enough, and I haven't done it enough to be able to give you any kind of insight to how to get them closer. But I know you might have some today, and we're going to be talking about that and doing some of these calls to give you an idea, especially from the box calls, an idea of some things you may be able to do that draw these turkeys in.

Speaker 2 2:35
Yeah, and I'm not, you know, I am not an expert. You know, by a long, long shot. I've had some some, some pretty good luck and in the past, and learned some things just being out there with these incredible animals. And it is just something I just love. I love turkey because I remember the first time I went out with my father in law, Bob Vogel, and we were sitting near the timber, you know. And we were near quarry, and when that gobbler let out his first gobble, it shook the whole woods. I like it. My hair was standing up all on my back of my neck, my arms, everything. I mean, I was hooked. Yeah, right then, yeah, and, and I'll never forget it, you know. And I think a lot of archers, you know, if you're into archery, you love the close encounters, right? And that's Turkey is all about, that you got to bring them in within like, 3040, yards, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 3:32
Well, the thing is, for me, Mike, is that you really can't communicate to deer like you can communicate with with a turkey, because you get an answer back from your call. And I think that's the thrill of it. You're Ben, you're communicating with nature, and I think that's the most exciting thing. It was my dad's past now, but I would say it was his number one, top of the line. Favorite thing to do in life was to go turkey. Number one. He absolutely, because he, he marked his year based on deer and turkey. Yeah, oh, so many days till deer. Baker, so much, so many days. Oh, Baker, turkeys are coming. They're coming. I heard him over near the creek yesterday. You know, he was always outside going, you know, listening to that first call of the year. And he would get him, Oh, he would call me, and me the baker. They're, they're, they're up near the creek, they're calling

Speaker 2 4:28
that's great. They loved it. He loved it. Oh yeah, it can it can get under your skin. You get addicted to it, you know. You just can't wait to hear that gobble for the first time. You know, out there in the woods. And when you're sitting out there in the woods, you know, rather than real far away, you know, it is amazing how loud it is, and, and, yeah, you're talking with them, you're having a conversation, and, and it's all about love. In the spring, you know, you're trying to find one in love. That's what we used to always say, was he in love? Nah, he just hung up back there. I think he was with somebody else, you know. But, yeah, you got to find one in love. But yeah, today we're going to talk about turkey calling in the spring, like I don't do, I think I went fall hunting one time, and it's a whole different technique where you try to break up the flock. Because they always, you know, they're not breeding or anything. They're always come in trying to put them to bed. They, yeah, they really just, they, they heard up together, or flock up, whatever you say. You know, you might find 50 to 100 of them in a flock in the fall, because they get together all through the winter and and what you do in the fall, you go in and you just break them up. You know, you literally run at them. You run at them and they and they scatter all over the place, and then you set up pretty much right there and try to call them back right they'll try. They'll try to find each other and get back together for the winter and that. But I've never really did that, but I just love the spring when the gobblers, you can only get a gobbler, you know, a bearded you know, Turkey, but you, but you can you get them, you know, calling them in, and you get them breeding. This is when they're fighting. You know, the gobblers are fighting with each other. It's amazing. You see him when you when you shoot one and there's another one there, he'll start when he sees his his weaker brother there laying on the ground, hurt and flop, and he'll go and start attacking him, because they're so, you know, into the breeding phase, riled up. Oh man, they're me. They're just ruthless. They are. But we're going to talk about calling a gobbler in in the spring, and I'm just going to show you some methods that I use, that I've had success with and and like I said, by no means, am I an expert, but maybe to help, you know, just some beginners, you know, getting out there wanting to know what to do, we'll go over just some basic, some basic calls. First of all, though, what you want to do is you want to do some scouting. You know, when you get out there, you got it. You got to find out where the birds are, and try to find out, you know, how they're traveling. You know, they'll, they'll usually, you know, stick with the same root, like they'll, they'll have their roosting areas where they roost up in the tree at night. And they'll stay up in that tree, you know, all night, all night long. And so, you know they're going to be in that area. And you if you can get out early a couple mornings and just see where they come down, they fly down, and where they go to to eat and and they'll probably do that several times in the year. And then they'll have their strutting areas as it gets closer to the season. You look at these, you know, into these fields and the field edges, and look for where they like to go out and strut, especially on nice sunny days, you know. And you kind of get a pattern on them, and

Speaker 1 7:47
the bugs, the bugs will start to get out there. So they're going to be looking for bugs. So fields are a good place to hunt, yeah? You can also look for them scratching, I know,

Speaker 2 7:56
yeah, that's in the timber, yeah. Look for, you know, all those open timbers where you have a lot of leaves on the ground, you'll see all kinds of scratchings on the ground. And I love hunting the timber, because this sounds so exciting on the timber, you know, but the But now, when you when you go out to roost, you know, a turkey that like on the evening before you're going to hunt, you go out in the evening, and what I use is, I like to use this Halle call here. It sounds just like an owl. And that's their mortal enemy, you know, the owls out there. And usually, if they hear an owl, they'll react to it. They'll gobble What's that sound like? And this sounds like like this.

Speaker 3 8:42
I sounds

Speaker 2 8:50
pretty good, and that's all you got to do, you know. And that'll usually get them to holler, you know, to gobble. And they'll gobble right from their roofs when they hear that, because they don't like that, that sound, and they're wondering they should get another apartment, but anyway, but yeah, so at night, you want to roost them, but that doesn't always work, and that's why your scouting is important, because if you can get if you know the general area, then you can set up. And you want to go in before daylight, you know, and set up. Now, what I like to I'm gonna just go over some different calls. My favorite call is the box call, for sure. And the reason I like it, if you can get really good at it, what you do? You can do several calls with this call you but you had the option, like with the glass calls and the mouth calls, you could only get so loud. And I've brought Turkey in from a couple 100 yards, maybe more, you know, I hear them in the distance, and I'll let out, if I hear them in the distance, I'll let out, you know, a loud call. And. They'll start coming over. It's amazing. I've called them in from really far away. They would never hear that mouth call, or at least the way I do it, because it's not that great. But or the slate calls, you know, they're, they, they're they're just not loud enough. But you can use a box call in a loud way, or, you know, a very low, soft way,

Speaker 1 10:24
you can have them chirping, and you got, they got that guttural sort of thing you can do with a box call.

Speaker 2 10:30
Well, when I do, when my box call, you know, I use the Lynch's World Champion Turkey caller. But, you know, I like the ones that are real wood and everything. A lot of guys have, they have these plastic ones now because they're waterproof, but they just don't make the sound the same sound, I don't think, but I always have a rubber band to see. This little rubber band here, you can't see it out there in radio land, but, but I always have it to put over it so it won't make noise as I'm walking in my vest. And then I just slide it up. And it's a pretty thick one is I slide it up and and I'll have two rubber bands hooked on the side. I have one that's broken here, but, but anyway, what I usually do when I get in my tree stand, I'll start, I mean, not my tree stand, but my ground stand. What I do is I start real light, because I don't know where they are a lot of times, right? You don't know how close they are whatever, and you don't want to start, you know, real heavy, and so I'll just start with a little little cluck. And all you do is you put your thumb against it and you just tap it. That's right. And they're doing, they're doing this as they're walking and they're feeding, they're making these very nice little clucks.

Unknown Speaker 11:45
The hens are always communicating, yeah,

Speaker 2 11:46
this is a hen call. Of course, that's what you're doing. Hen call. And just do a nice little, little, little, very soft clucks like that. You can also do purrs, which purrs sometimes purrs, I'll tell you, if I get a gobbler kind of close, it's very soft, but that'll get them to gobble. It's amazing, but you just very slightly. You slide it, it's very lightly across the top. And I usually like to end a purr segment with like a little cluck like,

Speaker 2 12:38
and then You got to be careful with your with your clucks, because if they, if they're too quick, they almost sound like it's there's something alarming the hen. So what I like that? And I'll do it real quick. I'll go

Speaker 2 13:02
but then I'll end up with a Yelp, and that means it's okay. Yeah, when they do the Yelp, they're okay. They don't yell when they're really nervous or in trouble. They will do that real sharp, you know, putt. So you got to be careful using those because that's usually their alarm, but then you ended up with a nice little Yelp. Then they're okay and

Unknown Speaker 13:34
or that can go in the woods. Oh,

Speaker 2 13:36
it is, I'm doing it pretty soft in the studio here. You know, we don't want to be alarming the neighbors,

Unknown Speaker 13:42
but maybe we'll call one in outside here.

Speaker 2 13:45
I know we keep an eye open. Also, you can do there's a fly down, like in the morning sometimes, you know, you know the deer, I mean, the the turkey will fly down from the roost, and they'll, they'll, they'll kind of make a sound, you know, as as they fly down with and you can even use a fan too to hit the ground and stuff but, but usually that'll go like this. That's what they sound like when they hit the ground, just like that. You it, and they hit the ground. It kind of jolts them a little bit, you know. And the gobblers here, then they, Oh, something's on the ground, you know, I in

Speaker 1 14:29
West Virginia, where I hunt. I can usually hear them hitting the ground when they come down off the roof.

Speaker 2 14:33
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing. You hear them flapping. And then finally, you can actually use a gobble which I don't use too much, but if you have rubber bands on your call, you can just turn it upside down, hang it and just give it a shake. I'm missing a rubber band, so it's not that good, but, but, yeah, you could do so many different things with this box call. It's truly amazing. You know, the clocks, the purrs, the the yellow. Helps the pep that you know when they get nervous and and you can, you can just do so much. You can even do a gobble. Now, the slate calls I like, and then I have two different strikers. I have the the wooden one and the plastic one. And you'll hear the difference a wooden one is softer. I'm a big fan of the wooden one. Yeah, this is the slate. So again, you could just,

Speaker 1 15:32
this is, this is what I use. I used to sleep most often. And all you got sounds pretty that sounds pretty close to

Speaker 2 15:40
what they sound like. It's just not that loud, right? But you can, but it's great when they're 100 yards away, something like that. But, but, and you just do a little circle, you know you did, perpendicular almost, with a little bit of an angle out and and then you can just, you can do the purr. You

Unknown Speaker 16:05
you can, you know, do the cluck, and, of course, the Yelp. So now, if you do, if you use the plastic, you

Speaker 2 16:28
you can almost get a little bit louder. It's just a little bit louder with the plastic, if you need it. I don't think it's quite as good. I'm like you. I like the wood. You that's the purr. Sometimes that's like, when gobblers, you know, get together, they'll they'll make that sound because they're getting ready to fight. And then I use the glass call too. Now, why do I have all these different calls? Is because it's kind of like fishing. Why do you have a whole tackle box full of lures? You know, some days are hitting on this another day they're hitting on something else, right, right? And you just, I like to have different options, because I found sometimes my, you know, Slate call is the best way to go. They're just responding to it. Then I get the box, or they don't respond to it, or vice versa, you know? So you find out what they like. And every personality is different. You know, every bird is different. And also, it sounds like there's more than just one bird out there, yeah, you know, more than one hen. Now, have you

Speaker 1 17:36
seen these ones? The plastic where they shake for the gobble? It's a,

Speaker 2 17:41
yeah, I've got one of those very, very real, I really don't try to gobble too much because, you know, they say that more people get shot in Turkey season than any other season in hunting. And the reason that is because you're sitting on the ground and you've got turkey colors on, and you're making turkey sounds, it's just, and there's dangers, you know, almost a million hunters out

Unknown Speaker 18:08
so please be careful, is what

Speaker 2 18:09
you're saying. And I always, I always, if I'm in a blind, I'll set up some kind of orange somewhere. I always have, you know, when I'm walking, I always either wear an orange hat or have orange on my back. Just have orange somewhere when you're moving around, right? You know? Because a lot of times, you know, after that first morning setup, and you don't get anything to come in, you got to start running and gunning, and you're walking around and you're trying to get a gobbler to respond to your calls. I usually walk maybe 100 yards or something, and then call again, you know, but, but this is the glass now with the wood. Now, remember what first thing in the morning, then they're walking around. You just make a little bitty sound.

Unknown Speaker 18:56
That's what they're doing, walking around, eating the grubs. Very soft, very light every now and they could throw in a little little Yelp,

Speaker 2 19:15
but keep it really, really soft, and if you're not getting any response, you know, you try some other things, but this is The wood on the glass.

Unknown Speaker 19:37
You do the purr I'm a

Speaker 2 19:47
clock. Remember, you don't want to do that. That's usually when they're alarmed. But then throw a couple yelps at the end, then they're okay. This is the plaque. Plastic, plastic, little higher see

Unknown Speaker 20:20
a little louder, and then, and then the mouth call. Now the mouth call, Dave, I'm not good at this thing. It's amazing how people get really good.

Unknown Speaker 20:34
I don't know how to do it either. And I guess

Speaker 2 20:37
you got to practice like crazy. I don't know, but, but But what I like to use it for, though, is when they're very close, you don't know what they're hung up. You don't want to be, I don't want to be grabbing the box call and all the sleigh moving, making all that movement. I got my gun in my hand, so always have a mouth call in my mouth. All you want to do is just make a little peep when they're that close

Unknown Speaker 21:08
now, a lot of times the cluck of the

Speaker 2 21:20
and you're just trying to get their attention, get them to come in another 20 yards or whatever, right? They're hung. They usually hang up around 5060, yards,

Speaker 1 21:35
and yeah, at that point you're hunkered down. You've got, you got a Ben in your hand.

Speaker 2 21:39
Yeah, you don't, you can't move. Now I'm going to tell you something I did one time that really worked, that was pretty exciting. I don't know if you've ever heard the I've got these two little box calls, and they're called Night and Hell's fighting per game calls, fighting, purrs, so and these. These are my last ditch effort. If I got them hanging up or nothing's calling or whatever, I'll try this right at the end of my sit. It might be after I've been trying it for an hour or something like that, but I had these. I saw these gobblers coming down a hill maybe 100 yards away from me, but they weren't coming in. They walked they literally, they were kind of jumping on each other. They're almost weird, like they were fighting or playing. I wasn't sure what they were doing. And several of them. And then they, they, they never came to my call. I'm doing all these beautiful hen calls, and they never came here, and

Unknown Speaker 22:39
they're going to town, and then

Speaker 2 22:40
they just walk over to the left and went behind this big Knoll, yeah. I went, Man. So I grabbed these fighting purrs. Now when, when gobblers fight, they do this purr sound, and you'll hear it. And then you got, you literally go nuts with these things. You're sitting on the ground. You start beating the ground, you start shuffling the leaves, and you just keep going back and forth. There's one in each hand, and you go, and

Speaker 2 23:16
you start busting up the leaves. And I tell you, I did that for like a minute or so, and this gobbler comes back around the note and comes racing in at me. I had my, and, of course, you got your hands, you know, going crazy when you got these in them. But I had my, you know, my shotgun right on my lap. This gobbler came running into me, almost ran into my barrel. I mean, I pulled a gun. I must have shot him at, you know, three paces. It was crazy, close. Man. I thought he was going to spur me. You know, he's running in as fast as he could. I had to shoot him right away. Like, three or four, I don't know what it was, four or five paces, but so exciting, and that the fighting purrs brought him in and they weren't coming into the hen cause it's crazy. What you got to try it all, you know? But it's an exciting sport, and I hope we've encouraged maybe some younger people to get out there and try it, because if I can do it, and I am not an expert by a long

Unknown Speaker 24:17
shot, you can do it, and there

Speaker 2 24:18
you'll have a blast. It is so much fun, guaranteed.

Speaker 1 24:31
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Speaker 2 24:41
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Speaker 1 24:49
Also, check out our targeting the truth Bible studies and the YouTube hunt videos. Again, it's all found at the standout doors.com check it out here at the stand outdoors. The Bible is our guide. And we don't ever want to do a broadcast where we don't talk about the Bible or something from the Bible that relates to what we've been talking about today. So our spiritual guru in charge, Mike Hayes, has done his homework to try to bring in some spiritual lesson with regards to we've been talking about today and the calls we've been doing turkey calls today. And we did want to mention Mike that sometimes you can over call, sometimes you can over share the Bible, overdo it with people and scare them away. And so you want to make sure that when you're doing your calls in the woods, right, Mike, you don't want

Speaker 2 25:37
to over call, right? No, you don't want to over call. And what I usually do is I'll do a calling sequence for maybe, I don't know, five minutes, something like that, but then I'll then I'll wait, and I'll wait maybe 15 to 20 minutes before I do another sequence. And the reason you do that if a gobbler hears you a lot of times and you just keep calling, they'll realize that they don't have to say anything, you know, because usually, remember that what happens in the woods is usually the hen will go to the gobbler. Now, you're trying to do the opposite. You're trying to bring that gobbler to the hen. So you got to be some kind of hen, you know? You got to play hard to get that's how my wife got me. So that's the way they work. So don't over call and and don't practice, you know, in the woods, you know what I mean, because they picked that up. Now, this guy's an amateur. He's practicing fake fake news. Take the time, you know, to practice how you're going to call and so going into the spiritual lesson I was thinking about, you know, our call to be, you know, to make disciples, right? We're all called to do it, to make disciples, not converts but disciples, is a big difference there, but they got to become converts before they can be disciples. And so I just have some verses here. Look at Romans, chapter 10 and verse 14 and 15, says, How then can they call on the one they have not believed in, and how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can anyone preach unless they are sent as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news. And of course, that's the definition of the word gospel is good news. And, you know, I hear so much today and and it really makes me uncomfortable. And that is, you know, the old saying, you know, when all else fails, use words, you know, and you're sharing of the gospel, and that's just crazy. And they say that some priest, or some guy, Francis, of Well, I don't know, said that, but I bet you he didn't. Who knows, but I've never been able to find out who said that. But anyway, there's all these things that people say, but I really believe it, it's because, you know, they're making excuses of why they don't share the Gospel. Now, we obviously have to have a life to back it up. If you're preaching the gospel, you're sharing Christ with your friends, your relatives, your co workers or whatever, and you're a hypocrite. You know they're not even going to listen to you, but it's both guys. We've got to be able to share the gospel. We've got to be able to what I tell people to do is everybody's got their own story. So take your story and incorporate the basic four elements of the gospel in your story. Like, first of all, the Bible says we're all sinners, right? We all fall short of the glory of God. The biggest thing that was a shocker to me was to find out what is the penalty for sin. You know, I was raised up in a religion that said you could light candles, you could pay penance, you could do all this stuff, you could jump through all these hoops, and then maybe that'd be good enough. No, there's only one payment for sin. And you know what it is, death, Sept. And the word death in the Greek is, is Necros, which means separation from God. And that's the penalty God cannot have fellowship with sin. And so, so the first thing, we're all sinners. Second thing, the penalty for sin is death separates from God. And then the third one is that that Jesus loved us so much that he paid the penalty for us. He went to that cross without sin, he didn't have his own sin, and He died on that cross to pay for your sin. Sin, and my sin, he was the only human that could do it, because all other humans had their own sin to pay for. And then the fourth element is the way we receive this gift that he offers paid for by His blood. The way we receive this gift is by faith alone. You put your trust in him. It's not just believing some intellectual, you know, facts about who he was. It's putting your faith and trust in him that you say, Lord, if you did that for me, you died for my sins. I put my trust in you, and I'm going to follow you this. This is where my salvation lies, and what you did on the cross and who you are, the God of the universe. And so you just put your faith. You lean on him, you trust him, just like I sat in this chair when I came into this room. I'm not holding it up with my other arm, you know, I just trusted it to hold me up. You trust in Christ that way, for the forgiveness of your sins, because of what he did, not because of what you do. And you

Speaker 1 31:03
know, Mike, the disciples were always struggling to find out, you know, what was the best way forward as a follower of Jesus, trying to follow Him and to bring disciples to Him, they were always asking, what's the greatest what's the greatest thing we can do? Greatest commandment, Love the Lord God with all your heart, mind and soul, and your neighbor as yourself. And that second part, the first part is the connection we have with Jesus. We have to do that with him. The second part is the doing of the gospel. You know, I heard somebody say recently, doing is stickier than listening, and doing is stickier than talking. But doing and loving. How do you show love? What does love require of you? Right? And when you answer that question, then you find ways to serve people and to love them. And that's the greatest do testimony that you can have. Oh, that's the greatest love them so you can you can preach all the things you can do, all the calls that you want. You can try all the different ones, and some may work to get them in, but to get them, finally close enough, you have to do you have to love, and they have to see Jesus in you, right?

Speaker 2 32:12
And that's the key point, what you just said there, because that's the new covenant. We the Old Covenant didn't work because the old covenant told us exactly what to do. But the problem was, we're sinners. We couldn't do it. But when Jesus saved us, he, not only, you know, saved us from the penalty of sin, but he saves us from the power of sin every day, and then one day, he will save us from the presence of sin altogether, but the power of sin in our life. Now Jesus, it's the same way. How do we? How do we live this life of love that he talked about, it's impossible without him, and so that that again, comes down to his grace, which means what he does, all the works, and they become mine when I do what, when I moment by moment, trust in Him and look to Him, fix my eyes on him, the author and finisher of my faith. It's all about Jesus, not only the salvation from the penalty of sin, but even the salvation from the power of sense that I can live that incredible life that He has given us. Now the second verse I have for you is first, Peter, 315, I'm going to read, well 15, but in your hearts, revere Christ is Lord also be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you, to give you the reason for the hope that you have, but do this with gentleness and respect. Now there's a lot in that verse. First of all, you see about preparation. When has, when was the last time you prepared? You know, you thought about, how can i What do I say to people that asked me about this hope that I have where it says, Be prepared. So that takes some intentional time, you know, and I don't think we do that enough. Boy, we go to marriage counseling. We go to all kinds of stuff at church, right? Well, let's figure out a time or some way that we can prepare a gospel presentation.

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It's almost like you said before, you can't prepare to call turkeys when you're in the woods trying to discover how to do all the calls. That's not the place to do that. No, you need to prepare outside of that. So when you get into the arena of bringing people to Jesus, you're prepared to know what to do and what to say, right?

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And that's important. And we don't think about enough when it comes to this one aspect of the Christian life, and that is sharing our faith. We need to be prepared, and that's all he's telling us to do. The other thing in this verse I want to look at, he says, To do this, sharing the gospel, sharing our hope with other people. He says, do it with gentleness and respect. Now, what does that mean? Well, first of all, gentleness, I think. Is the way you approach people, the way you can't, you know, you see these guys, you're going to hell and all this kind of stuff. You got to be so careful with it. That's not gentle to me. I think is we're relating with people. We're we're understanding. We show compassion. We have, we have all of these elements in our life, where we know, listen, I'm a sinner too. You know I'm saved by grace. I know I'm going to heaven, but I can't brag about it. I had nothing to do with it. And so you have this gentle attitude and your shit, not that you that you act like you don't know that you're going to hell. Oh, well, try this like I hear Christians a lot of times they'll say, Well, you know, maybe Christianity is true, you know, maybe check it, you know, maybe, you know, you could try the You can't talk like that. The Bible says, speak with authority, and you speak with that authority, but you do it with gentleness. You say, you know, I know that I have eternal life, but I can't brag about it. I had nothing to do with it, but Jesus loved me so much that he became one of us, and He died for so you speak with his gentleness, but yet you speak with a knowledge, a knowing I know this person, I and I'm getting to know this person. You know, there is a confidence and yet a gentleness at the same time, and the Holy Spirit will help you with that. Now, how about the respect? A lot of times we don't show unbelievers the respect we need to. And what you have to remember is this is somebody that God loved so much that He died for and this is somebody that's made in the image of God just like you are, and just because they haven't made that decision for Christ yet doesn't mean they're any lower than you in God's eyes. He loved them so much he died for them, and we have to love them that much. So there's this awesome respect for unbelievers, and even in their we, I think we can, you know their talent, you know whatever God, because all see, they may not give the acknowledgement to God that these gifts and talents that they have. We know where it came from. We know where it came from, and we can respect that, and respect them. Because their children, they're well, they're not, they're not sons of God or children of God, but they have been created by God in His own image, and God loves them with all his heart, so that's how we need to approach them. The final verse I wanted to look at was second, Timothy, four, two. Let's look at that. Preach the Word. Be prepared in season and out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage with great patience and careful instruction. You know to me that saying this has got to be going on all the time, it's got to be such a part of our lives. And you know what, guys, the only time we have to do this is right now. Think about worshiping God is a wonderful thing. Worshiping fellowshipping with other brothers and sisters, right? Reading God's word is so wonderful, and interpreting it, and figuring it out and and doing all this stuff, you know, all these things, though, those those three things there we can do in heaven, we can do in the new heavens and the new earth, and we will be but what's the one thing that you won't be doing? Evangelism? Now is the time for evangelism. Now is the time to let your light shine so that people can see Jesus that don't know Jesus, and to share with them this incredible good news that we have, that eternal life is a free gift from God. Hey, thanks

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