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From Here Forward shares stories and ideas about amazing things UBC and its alumni are doing around the world. It covers people and places, truths, science, art, and accomplishments with the view that sharing better inspires better. Join hosts Carol Eugene Park and Jeevan Sangha, both UBC grads, in exploring solutions for the negative stuff out there — focussing on the good for a change, from here forward.
[00:00:00] Carol Park: Hello, friendly alumni. Welcome back to From Here Forward, your favorite UBC Podcast Network podcast. I'm Carol, and she's Jeevan.
[00:00:08] Jeevan Sangha: Happy Valentine's Day.
[00:00:09] Carol Park: Yay for love online, because that's how millennials date even though we all hate it here.
[00:00:16] Jeevan Sangha: So, I'm guessing your online dating app experience hasn't been the best then?
[00:00:20] Carol Park: I mean, it's weird, I think, if it has been going well for people. I've deleted them all. It's not even in like a, oh look I'm going to download it again in a few days’ kind of way, like I literally am off it. I'm done, I'm gone. Like, in a truly millennial pause kind of way.
[00:00:34] Jeevan Sangha: No, I'm with you. I reached my wits end with apps at the end of the year and I thought, okay, you know what? New year, new me, so I've been off them for the past month, and honestly, sometimes you just need a break.
[00:00:46] Carol Park: I love that. 2024, you said, clean slate, new girly. I love that for you. Yeah, so even though I have a hate intrigue relationship with dating apps, I am a sucker to at least trying the latest one. And I know I just said that I'm off them, but like, am I really off them?
[00:01:00] No. It was only natural to be excited when I heard there was a newer, younger, hotter version of Hinge, Tinder, and Bumble that I simply had to know about it.
[00:01:10] Jeevan Sangha: Yeah, I mean, I'm here for innovation. I'm here for new ways to date. Given our track record, we need something new on the block, so It's exciting to hear.
[00:01:19] Carol Park: We've got a new youth on the block, as you said, but it's fully Gen Z and they are called IRLY.
[00:01:25] Jeevan Sangha: Like early, but with an I instead of an E. And it stands for I Really Like You. I mean, us Gen Z-ers know how to keep it cheeky.
[00:01:33] Carol Park: Honestly, I'm a fan. Like, at first, I saw that, and I was like, hmm, but I don't know. But then, I was like, I know when I really like you and she is Carly Rae Jepsen. And I just feel like it'd be really great if we could play a little snippet of that song right now, but copyright issues. So, speaking of Canadian talent.
[00:01:50] Jeevan Sangha: Speaking of, one of the co founders, Connor Rose, is a UBC Gen Z student currently on hiatus to work full time on this entrepreneurial feat. Fun fact, Connor and his co founder workshopped IRLY at UBC's incubator, Entrepreneurship at UBC.
[00:02:04] Carol Park: And for my listeners who grew up on YouTube, guess who is backing this Gen Z startup? Drumroll please, Cameron Dallas.
[00:02:13] Jeevan Sangha: That's a blast from the past, I wasn't expecting.
[00:02:15] Carol Park: It's a collab I didn't know it needed. You know, UBC x Cameron Dallas, but I am absolutely here for it.
[00:02:20] Jeevan Sangha: And that's a great way to segue into our chat with Connor. Cue the love.
[00:02:25] Connor Rose: My name's Connor. I am the co founder of a company called IRLY. It's a game based, personality-based dating app that's basically 50 times better than anything that's out there right now. I co-founded it with a few other people, but I'm the only UBC student, so I guess that's really all that matters. My other co founder is like this, influencer, celebrity guy named Cameron Dallas. Who's also super, super cool, and yeah, we're currently like in a beta phase right now, testing, and you can go download it and check it out right now.
[00:02:54] Jeevan Sangha: You know, I mean, I'm sure Carol and I have plenty of online dating core stories like everyone else. Do you have any online dating horror stories that, you know, prompted you to make change in the online dating world?
[00:03:06] Connor Rose: Yeah, I've definitely had my fair share of bad online dates. I feel like we all have. So, initially, we built IRLY out of frustration. Laura, my co founder, and I started it together. We both absolutely hated dating apps. We had been on really terrible dates. We've experienced pretty much everything. Catfishing, where people look completely different or even act completely different. Like they act one way on text or, you know what I mean?
[00:03:31] But nothing really comes to mind right now for a really cool story. But yeah, I mean, basically I think that everybody involved on the team absolutely hates what's out there now. So, the idea is we really want to build something that people actually like. The general sentiment for what we've seen is people are only on the apps cause that's all that's out there right now. There's nothing really better than Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge. That's what we're basically trying to build.
[00:03:53] Carol Park: I mean, 50 times better is quite the statement. So, generally, people do hate these apps, but what specifically are the gaps that IRLY is addressing?
[00:04:04] Connor Rose: I think the biggest thing is, it's really hard to start a conversation on Tinder, Bumble and Hinge. Hinge does an okay job with their prompts, but really, what are you going to say to someone on Tinder when they don't have a bio and it's just a few pictures, right? It's very hard to gauge someone's personality and interest. And, you know, so there's crazy statistics, like 90 percent of matches don't even send a first message on Tinder, right? Which is really, really bad. And then if you look even deeper, 57 percent of the messages sent on Tinder are one message conversation.
[00:04:34] So like you send out as, hey, and they just never hit you back. And ultimately, we're thinking like, why is this? And we basically rebuilt a dating profile from scratch to figure out ways that we could get people more engaged in learning about the other people. Like prompts are cool on hit on hinge. But you know a lot of responses to the prompts are very stale and they're all the same. So basically, what we've done is we've built in these game mechanisms that help you uncover more about your match, match's personality rather through guessing about them. This is all info that we haven't shared yet, by the way, so I guess when this drops on Valentine's Day, people will be hearing about this.
[00:05:06] Um, but for example, one of our favorite games is called Hot Takes, and how it works is, let's say you set up a profile like Carol or Jeevan. You answer a few questions about yourself and what your takes are about controversial topics, like, do you split the bill on the first date type of thing. Right? And then, I'd go on your profile, and I'd basically guess what I think you'd answer. So, like, let's say, you know, you come onto my profile, and it says, Does Connor split the bill on the first date? Right? And you say, like yes. And my answer was, no, I don’t, and I'll pay for it. And then that just starts the conversation. Basically, like it gives you like so much more about the person versus just like, you know, a prompt where they have to, you know, their friend could have written it. You know what I mean? Like, it's just a really more authentic way to learn about the person. And I think when you look at the legacy dating platforms like eHarmony, like Plenty of Fish, things like that, like they had a lot of depth. But no offense to them, not taking shots at our competitors, but they're pretty boring, right? It's like, you're going to read someone's CV if you want to date them? Probably not, right? But building out an engaging platform with a little bit more depth is basically what we're trying to do. I don't know if that answers your questions, but yeah.
[00:06:13] Jeevan Sangha: No, it does for sure. Those games sound really fun, to be honest. I'm like, oh, these are things that I need to know so early on to weed people out in the dating process as well. I'm curious to know a bit more about what it went into deciding what kinds of questions to add to those games. What was the ideation process for that like?
[00:06:29] Connor Rose: Yeah, so, I mean, we wanted to do questions that were polarizing, but also... Like, I don't know, so the interesting thing about the questions, there are certain things that are deal breakers for some people. And, you know, some people may not want to date certain people with different political opinions or things like that, right? But there are also things that are just kind of like quirky little things that you can banter off of, right?
[00:06:50] So maybe certain people would be like If you split the bill on the first date, sorry, then I don't want to date you. But it's also just like a witty banter point. So, it was really hard to make a distinction between, do we want to get super serious and be like, okay, these are real screening criteria, or do we want it to just be like something to build a conversation off of? We landed in kind of a mix of both. So, some of the questions are like a little bit more serious, deeper questions. And then other ones are kind of, you know, funny questions help you learn more about a person.
[00:07:18] Carol Park: So, if we were to call eHarmony a Gen X-er platform, and Tinder and Bumble a millennial platform, then you guys, like, you guys have leaned into the Gen Z humor and the Gen Z kind of characteristics?
[00:07:29] Connor Rose: 100%. Yeah, most of our team is 25 or younger. Like, everybody really is leaning into Gen Z. And I mean, there are apps out there that say they're Gen Z, but I feel like they don't really, like they don't really get the needs of Gen Z. But when you are Gen Z and when you're young and you experienced the problems yourself, it's a lot easier to build something cause you're really building for yourself.
[00:07:52] But yeah, we definitely are targeting a younger demographic. Cause I feel like right now, and this is something that I say a lot to my friends and stuff. Like Tinder and Bumble and Hinge have been around for 10 years. And you, if you look at the life cycle of dating apps in general, they typically last around 10 years. So, you have match. com, which was, you know, 90s, 2000s then you had eHarmony, which was like early 2000s. And then Tinder came in around like 2010. And now people are really like looking for something new, because it's not really meeting consumer expectations. And like I said, people are just on it because it's there, right? So that's kind of what we're trying to do, is build the next big platform for the next generation of daters, basically.
[00:08:31] Jeevan Sangha: Awesome. As a Gen Z myself, I appreciate this work. We need more Gen Z dating platforms, because, you know, Gen Z, like, in the world, is this enigma to a lot of other generations. It's like, we're always trying to figure them out, and we don't know, we think we get them, but we don't really know what their needs are. And it's just this thing that the world is grappling with, this generation.
[00:08:52] So, I'm curious, especially in the dating world, what are the dating needs of Gen Z, and what are some of the other challenges that you think Gen Z faces when it comes to dating? Especially, you know, post pandemic in 2024.
[00:09:04] Connor Rose: Yeah. I mean, it's really hard out here, I'm not going to lie. Definitely. So, I mean, I feel for one thing with the current options, your kind of stuck. So, I mean, if you look at stats, online dating is the number one way to meet people and I mean, Gen Z or not Gen Z, when you're stuck on a platform that doesn't really have your best interests in mind, like, you know, helping you meet people in an effective way, helping you talk to them, matching you with the right people, things like that. It really, it's tough.
[00:09:30] You know, honestly, I don't use any dating apps anymore aside from IRLY, shout out to what we're building. But it honestly makes a lot more sense for me to go out in person and meet someone naturally. You know, I don't know where yet. I haven't met anyone yet, but you know what I mean?
[00:09:44] Ultimately, I feel like, like you were saying, everybody's really trying to figure out Gen Z. Like if you look at large corporations, they're always targeting their marketing to Gen Z and I mean, Gen Z is the largest market right now. They have the highest purchasing power, and they are, like you said, an enigma. And I feel like we have a really interesting perspective, being that we are young, and we do kind of understand their needs a little bit more than, you know, older people.
[00:10:08] Carol Park: As a millennial, I will ask, cause like, you know, the dating app's not to be crass, were very focused on hookup culture. But with Gen Z's, at least like my younger sister, she hates that we, didn't create it, but really fully embraced this like, no commitment, like never talk to you kind of vibe, we're too cool for dating. Is that something that Gen Z's who have maybe tested out your app, is that something that's also a pattern or is that completely different that you guys have now?
[00:10:33] Connor Rose: Yeah, 100%. I feel like Tinder, it's kind of taken us back a little bit in my opinion. What we're trying to do is make it a little bit more personal. I feel like when you're on Tinder, you're literally swiping through people like, you know, a maggot, like a grocery, I don't know, but it's just crazy. But yeah, I feel like with today's day and age, it's hard to completely ignore that. But like, yeah, I don't necessarily think it's an app only thing. Imagine before dating apps or even before online dating, you didn't have access to the same number of people that you do on these apps.
[00:11:03] So it's, there's just so many more options now, but I don't know necessarily if that's a good or bad thing. I think that the way that we're trying to build is like when you're on someone's profile on IRLY, you're talking to an actual person. Like, it's not just some, you know, random profile. It's allowing people to realize that this is not just like, you cannot, you shouldn't just swipe through people, like, actually be intentional about what you're saying and learn more about the person. You know, when you're just endlessly swiping left and right, like hundreds of times a day, it just doesn't feel real anymore. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel like you're actually looking through real people. It's just, it's like almost like a game. And obviously we have games and gamification is cool, but not in that type of way.
[00:11:40] Jeevan Sangha: I want to go back to some of the earlier days, pun intended, of the app. What role did the entrepreneurship@UBC program play in the creation and evolution of what's now IRLY?
[00:11:52] Connor Rose: Yeah, I mean, so we did the e@UBC program. That was like the first thing that we ever did. And when we joined the program, we were super IRLY, pun intended. We didn't really even have a solidified idea, right? So, I pitched it to Fraser, who at the time was leading the core incubator. Shout out to Fraser if you're listening to this, he's a legend has been helping us even to this day, we meet with him on a weekly basis. So, we didn't really have a clear direction. Like we wanted to do the video dating product. And we thought that was like, you know, going to fix all of our problems and fix all the problems with online dating. It turns out it didn't. But anyways, I mean, we went through the incubator super, super helpful. We also met some amazing other people and other teams, they're all UBC alumni. I can't speak highly enough. Like, we've been through other incubators as well, and you know, they don't hold a candle to what UBC has provided. Obviously, right now, I'm remote, but You know, they give you, there's just amazing resources that they provide. And I think it's a really fantastic program.
[00:12:50] Carol Park: Can you kind of speak a bit more like on what it is that differentiates UBC's program? Like, you know, what are the resources? What do they do actually to help people?
[00:12:58] Connor Rose: So, I mean, when we went through it, I think it might've been slightly different to what's going on now. I'm not really sure. But at the time they did something really unique, which I've never seen before. And they basically connected you directly one on one with like a mentor after the first phase or so. Like you'd get connected with a mentor and like it was super, super helpful, especially for us because we were kind of like Laura and I, when we first started, we were kind of walking around like with our heads cut off. We didn't really know what we were doing and having someone who's done it before, or at least has talked to, you know, tens and hundreds of companies that have done it before. They're level-headed, they look at the problems that we're facing. They can go and, go back and reference other companies that they've either worked with or be like, chill out guys, you know, this is super common, this is what you need to do. And having that one-to-one communication with someone was super, super powerful for us.
[00:13:49] Carol Park: So, what are some of the early successes that IRLY has had, you know, with like the people that you guys have tested out? What are some of the feedback that you've been hearing?
[00:13:56] Connor Rose: I mean, we only recently launched like a couple weeks ago in beta. And, candidly, obviously, like, it's a beta, so there are definitely some hiccups on the tech side, and we're still figuring out bugs and stuff like that. But the overall sentiment is that people love the games. And, you know, I don't know if I mentioned this already, but we launched something previously, which was a video focused product, and the biggest thing on that product, like the only, like the major success, um, was the games. And, you know, when we saw that everybody was playing the games over video chats, we were like, okay, maybe there's something here. So yeah, I'd say while we're still kind of tinkering with things and figuring things out, we've seen really good signs that we're building something that people actually want to use.
[00:14:39] Jeevan Sangha: And I'm curious, you know, as someone who's kind of breaking into the space, trying to do something new with what's out there. There's a lot of other people in, you know, Gen Z who are pursuing entrepreneurship, trying to innovate. What factors do you think have driven so many in this generation to pursue those entrepreneurial paths? Why do you think there's still that hunger out there?
[00:14:59] Connor Rose: I spoke about this a little bit when I spoke with the alumni magazine, but I feel like there's a lot of interesting people out there who are building really, really cool things. And like, even in pop culture, you see really cool movies like the social network, and there's all these documentaries about startups. And I think that culture is kind of bleeding in. And I mean, like, I don't want to be that guy who's like, people hate their nine to fives, but I honestly think there's a lot of room for really cool things to be built. Especially since the emergence of this whole AI thing, like obviously when ChatGPT came out last year or whatever, that really changed a lot. Now people can build things a lot quicker, and they can also build things that, you know, we didn't even think were possible. So yeah, I mean, I just think it's a lot easier to start now, I feel like. The barrier of entry is a lot less, so I think that's kind of making people be like, you know, why not try something, right?
[00:15:50] Carol Park: I was going to say we do hate our nine to fives, but you know, that's why you guys are changing the world. I had a question, when you sign up for this app, are millennials allowed? Because, you know, you always get prompted like the, your birthday and stuff, and because this is marketed as a Gen Z product, I was like, will I be thwarted out the way that Facebook used to thwart you out unless you were 14? My thoughts, questions.
[00:16:13] Connor Rose: So that's an interesting one. We're definitely not kicking people out if they're like over 30, just find you someone who's your age, you know what I mean? We're targeting it towards Gen Z because there's a huge need there, right? I mean, you can look this up, you can see that people are not happy with Tinder in that age. And Tinder's trying, don't get me wrong, but I feel like, you know, it's just not cool anymore, right? When it first came out, they were targeting colleges, and everybody was excited about it. But they're like the old man on the block right now, and you know, we're like the young, fresh, new kid, right? So., I feel like, definitely, although we're targeting Gen Z, everybody's welcome. We've got a huge waitlist of people and they're all different ages. Obviously, definitely skews younger, like 18 to 26, but we've got people who are like 40, who are doing it, who are logging on the app. We're going to wait until we get some more 40-year-olds to let them on. But yeah, definitely, we don't judge, we're not ageist, any age is welcome.
[00:17:08] Jeevan Sangha: So, Carol can sign up when the time is right. We can get Carol on there.
[00:17:11] Connor Rose: Hop on, Carol. Let's go.
[00:17:13] Carol Park: Anyway, next question. What are some of the key qualities or the green flags that Gen Zs are looking in romantic partners? What does a successful match look like?
[00:17:23] Connor Rose: Well, that's a good question. I think, to me and what I've seen, I think that a big thing is personality. A huge majority of Gen Z is prioritizing personality and relationships. There was even a feature that we're integrating, which is a music-based thing where people guess the other person's favourite song. You'll put two songs on your profile, and we turned it into a game, so you can do a few songs, but like, you could do like Dua Lipa or like, you know, Eminem or something, and you have to guess what the other person's favorite song is.
[00:17:52] We found that that resonated really well, and people like people with a, you know, similar music taste. That was just another stat, approximately 70 percent of Gen Z Daters believe that a shared music taste matters in a relationship, so that's one interesting thing. We're constantly looking at, you know, things like that and thinking about how we can turn that into a feature, right? So, we saw that Gen Z's care about music taste, we were like, okay, well, how can people discover a music taste in a way that's not stale and in a way that will provoke people to converse, right? Like, obviously, um, Tinder, and maybe Bumble, I'm not 100 percent sure if they have this, but there's a Spotify integration on Tinder for sure. And that can help start the conversation, but like, when you turn it into a game, it's more engaging, because you can be like, oh, you love Drake, like, you like Kanye, that's crazy.
[00:18:39] Jeevan Sangha: Drake v/s Kanye, the battle continues. Sorry, just had to throw that in there.
[00:18:45] Carol Park: Um, you mentioned this in the beginning, but Cameron Dallas is quite a, it's a name I haven't heard in a very long time. Um, how did that partnership come to be?
[00:18:58] Connor Rose: Yeah, definitely a blast from the past for sure. It's really random, he actually reached out to us, which is not probably what you expected. So, we posted something on LinkedIn maybe like, you know, a year ago or so, and it was really funny. So, I got a message from Cameron Dallas and, you know, we all know Cameron Dallas and my co founder, Laura, you know, I'm sure she knew him better than me, but obviously I'd heard the name.
[00:19:25] Um, and he sent me something like, hey man, I was trying to find you on Instagram. That was the first message, and I was like, wait, this guy thinks he knows me, like he thinks I met him at a party or something. Um, so I was just confused, I'm like, dude, I actually deactivated my Instagram. But what's up, man? How's it going? And we just kind of hit it off. And then we scheduled time to chat further and there was just a lot of alignment on what we're building. So just background on him, obviously, you know, he's done like really impressive, fantastic things in the social media world. And he's one of the first influencers like You know, back in the day, but he's also super smart when it comes to business, I can't speak highly enough about the guy. He exited his previous company, which was like a clean version of Only Fans, it's called Fanfix. They exited for like eight figures, like super big exit. And he played a huge role in that. So huge props to him, very, very smart guy. And then. You know, in the initial conversations with him, we saw that, okay, this guy is more than just your run of the mill influencer and we brought him on and, you know, we were early enough where we thought it made sense to bring him on as co founder. And, you know, it's been pretty much smooth sailing ever since.
[00:20:35] Jeevan Sangha: Sorry, that's just such a funny coincidence. I love when I hear those kinds of stories. It's all just works out the way it's meant to work out. I was wondering, you know, looking forward, it's already so much progress, but what are your dreams and goals for IRLY? Looking five, ten years in the future, where do you hope to see this app going?
[00:20:53] Connor Rose: Yeah, I mean, I'd love to see us right next to Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge. So, there's a stat people on average have 2. 6 dating apps on their phone. We'd love to be part of that 2. 6. So when you're deciding which app you want to use, like, should I use Tinder? Should I use IRLY? You know, we definitely want to be considered with the big dogs, if you know what I mean. And that's hopefully sooner than 10 years away, like, we're really going to make a push once we're comfortable with where we're at. We're testing features on a weekly basis, playing around with different games and things like that.
[00:21:24] Jeevan Sangha: I'm just laughing because every time there's been any kind of entrepreneurial interview, Carol and I offered to lend ourselves as testers. We'll be like, hey, if you need some really experts, you know, people who can give you great feedback, you know, to call.
[00:21:38] Connor Rose: Yeah. Once we're ready, I would love to have you guys test it. One thing that I'd like to say is we're live on the app store right now, type in IRLY on your app store, IRLY and go download, and we will slowly but surely allow people on. We want to make sure that we're giving kind of a nice healthy flow of people on there so everybody has a chance to like match with someone. Vancouver is obviously a place that's very near and dear to me so we're going to be launching in Vancouver as one of our first flagship cities.
[00:22:08] Carol Park: This episode's coming out on Valentine's Day. Do the Gen Z youths care about Valentine's Day as a day or do you not care?
[00:22:17] Connor Rose: I mean, I don't know if I can speak as the ambassador for the entirety of Gen Z.
[00:22:24] Carol Park: At this point you are.
[00:22:27] Connor Rose: I think Valentine's Day is important, for sure. You have to get your loved one’s flowers, and chocolates, and maybe a gift. I think it's definitely important. You know, I think all holidays are super fun, and I always take a chance to celebrate when I can. So, I mean, first of all, on TikTok, like, you know, you could definitely see a lot of Gen Z's like celebrating in funny, cool way. So, I definitely think it's still up there as one of the important holidays for sure.
[00:22:54] Carol Park: I'm shook because I have not seen that content, but I love that for you guys.
[00:22:58] Jeevan Sangha: You're on a different side of Tik Tok, the millennial side of Tik Tok.
[00:23:03] Carol Park: I'm on the men are not great on the side of the 'Tok, but that's another episode for another day.
[00:23:10] Jeevan Sangha: One last question. Are there any thoughts or plans of having like a BFF or like a friend version of IRLY because I know that's something that I've noticed a lot of peers utilizing more is like Bumble BFF. And using these kinds of apps just to make friends because people are lonely.
[00:23:26] Connor Rose: Yeah, 100 percent that's something that we're interested in. Bumble recently actually turned BFF into a standalone app, which is really interesting. I think that like generally like Friend finder apps are cool, but sometimes they're not that effective in my opinion. Just hot take there.
[00:23:44] But I think that if we built out the right way that people felt like, you know, this is a good way to make friends, then I think that it's definitely something that we can explore. So, I mean, right now, if you're signing up to IRLY, you can set your preferences for just friends. But like building something and building features generally just around friend making is something that I think is super, super important. Like we can all use more friends. I'm going to get coffee with someone to go bowling. You know what I mean? Why not? Right. But yeah, a hundred percent something that we're interested in.
[00:24:17] Jeevan Sangha: I'm excited to try it out IRLY, but the gamification of this app is so intriguing. Like, trying to guess each other's music taste? Brilliant.
[00:24:26] Carol Park: I mean, it is a cool concept. It's like a step up from the Hinge prompts, like Connor said. Which, speaking of, I think we should try the game together, question mark?
[00:24:36] Jeevan Sangha: Yeah, I mean, ideally you would try it on the app yourself, but your age group isn't really allowed on. I mean, maybe one day with a discounted version. But I guess we can try to makeshift it.
[00:24:48] Carol Park: I like have no comment other than that I'm really offended that you said that. This is ageism. If we are doing this game, even if I'm old, I will preface that I will be terrible. And, um, don't take any of my choices personally. Thanks.
[00:25:04] Jeevan Sangha: I'll try not to. Warning, I'm extremely competitive, even though that's not the point of this game. But I'm just putting that out there before we start. Um, so in order to do this, we're going to need some help, which is why we're bringing in our producer, Kylé!
[00:25:20] Kylé McPhedran: Hello, hello. Um, a real pleasure to be here on air. Just to remind you both, the point of this game is not to win or lose, it's to get to know each other. So, everyone is a winner. Okay, here we go. Round one. ASAP or Lil Nas
[00:25:35] Carol Park: I think Jeevan, you're Lil Nas X.
[00:25:39] Jeevan Sangha: Yeah, I think you're ASAP. No, maybe you're Lil Nas X.
[00:25:42] Carol Park: Good. Yeah, I am Lil Nas X. Yeah.
[00:25:45] Kylé McPhedran: Next up, we are going to do a more classic grandpa rock version of this. Um, we're going to go with The Beatles or Tzhe Rolling Stones.
[00:25:53] Jeevan Sangha: For Carol, I'm going to say The Beatles.
[00:25:55] Carol Park: I feel like you're Rolling Stones. And I am The Beatles only because that's I only know one song and I don't listen to Rolling Stones, unfortunately. Yellow Submarine's the only song I know.
[00:26:05] Jeevan Sangha: Okay, I will say that you definitely know more Beatles songs than that. You just probably don't realize they're by the Beatles because there's a lot of them out there. But yeah, I would say I'm Rolling Stones. I love both, but we really know each other. We're doing good. I'm proud of us.
[00:26:18] Carol Park: Kylé's going easy on us.
[00:26:20] Kylé McPhedran: I'd match you guys for sure. Okay, we're going to be topical to the news for this one. So, I mean, I think it's easy, but we're going to go Nicki Minaj or Meg?
[00:26:33] Jeevan Sangha: I was a Barb when I was young, but I learned, and I grew, and I evolved, and now we're Meg till we die. I'm going to say Meg for you as well, Carol.
[00:26:46] Carol Park: You are indeed correct, and I can't believe you just said that on air. Are you trying to get, like, the Barbz to come after you? Because that's scary.
[00:26:51] Kylé McPhedran: Okay, well, we're doing my last one, which is, maybe this is controversial, because it's, I don't know how you pick, between Rihanna, or Beyonce?
[00:26:59] Carol Park: Jeevan is totally Beyonce.
[00:27:02] Jeevan Sangha: Yeah, like, not even a question. I feel like you're also Beyonce. Maybe you're, oh, maybe you're a Rihanna girl? I have to pick one, right? That's the point of the game. I'm going to go final answer Rihanna.
[00:27:14] Carol Park: You do be correct. I am a RiRi girl through and through. I love Beyonce, but if I had to choose, it's always RiRi for me.
[00:27:20] Jeevan Sangha: Wow.
[00:27:20] Kylé McPhedran: You guys are meant to be.
[00:27:23] Jeevan Sangha: I think, I think everyone has their right to their opinion, even if they're wrong, it's okay.
[00:27:29] Carol Park: Well, I love that, even though you insulted me in many ways but it's okay. So, we're going to wrap it up here because I'm sure everyone and their mothers are anxious to get their Valentine's Day plans, however traditional or nontraditional they are, because we all love love.
[00:27:43] Jeevan Sangha: Yeah, I'm honestly excited for Valentine's Day. I have a couple of Galentine's Day plans with the girlies scheduled. I mean, platonic love deserves to be celebrated too.
[00:27:52] Carol Park: And I don't have any dates of any kind, platonic or romantic. But I will be re watching one particular episode of season two of Bridgerton. Would you care to take a guess of which one I speak of?
[00:28:05] Jeevan Sangha: My guess is the, like, love confession episode? Is the, do you think there is a corner of this earth that you could travel to that could free me of this torment? Is it that one?
[00:28:14] Carol Park: Yes! Yes! You are the bane of my existence and the object of all my desires! Yes! Yes! Hahaha. Yeah, I'm very, very happily single, everybody.
[00:28:25] Jeevan Sangha: You have great taste, and we will link to that scene in the show notes for those who aren't aware of the magic that is season two of Bridgerton.
[00:28:33] Carol Park: Indeed. It is the show. Anyway, Happy Love Day, everybody. Happy Love Day.
[00:28:38] Jeevan Sangha: May you love and be loved.
[00:28:40] Carol Park: Thanks, everyone, for listening. Make sure you catch our next episode by subscribing or following our show on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you're feeling your feels on this lovely, love day, please drop us a lovely, lovely review. You can find me on Twitter @CarolEugenePark.
[00:28:56] Jeevan Sangha: And me @Jeevanksangha. From Here Forward is an alumni UBC podcast produced by Podium Podcast Company.