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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. So my guest today is a politician. And I have to admit, there's not a lot of politicians that are willing to come on my show because most of the politicians are bought and sold, and they are not really loyal to We The People. And so this person is Christine Anderson.
Speaker 1:She's a a member of the European Parliament. You've probably seen her perhaps in in viral speeches where she's calling out the globalist agenda in these meetings of these European politicians where everyone else is kinda looking a little bit scared. Like, oh, is she really saying this? Well, yeah, she's the one who's saying it. And I've had her on before, and and we've we've had some great discussions.
Speaker 1:And I really appreciate her perspective because she's someone that she's at the level, especially within Europe. If you look at this globalist agenda that is trying to, as we'll talk about in our interview today, trying to enslave humankind for all eternity, like, just to kinda be blunt about it. She's someone that has been trying to thwart and warn people about this, and but she's also someone that is very uniquely positioned to see this agenda because she is in Europe, and she's seeing what's happening in in her home country of Germany, but also countries across Europe where a lot of this agenda is so strong. I mean, obviously, it's bad here in America, but you look at some of these countries over in Europe, like the, you know, cities like London, for instance for instance. And here we have in New York City.
Speaker 1:It looks like there's gonna be a, an immigrant Muslim mayor, which is you know, we've got it, you know, pretty far along from, you know, say, Giuliani as a, you know, conservative American, you know, pro America. So now you have someone that's gonna be pushing, you know, government owned grocery stores, you know, very, very strong LGBTQ trans agenda, the whole the whole kind of thing of this, again, this globalist agenda that is destabilizing, especially the Western nations, and of the Western nations, especially America, the country that I think you maybe agree with me, I'd say, one of the last bastions of freedom. And so in today's interview, it's just gonna be a a just a conversation about where humanity is at, what what Christine is observing, where she sees this heading, you know, who's winning this battle for control, and what we can do about it. So I hope you enjoy the interview. If you like it, make sure you hit that like button, especially if you're watching on Rumble.
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Speaker 2:Well, thank you for having me again.
Speaker 1:So as a member of the European Parliament, you, I think, have a very unique perspective on Europe, but also global affairs, considering a lot of the global agendas are coming out of Europe. And really sad, I think since COVID, you know, the the beginning of the pandemic, there has been this awakening of people, this your average person realizing that there's something afoot. There is some sort of deeper, darker, maybe perhaps sinister agenda that is battling against the whole of mankind. And I'd say that, you know, the past, say, couple of months, you know, since Trump has got in, we've seen a lot of changes happening, like, very quickly. You know, we're we're kind of at least started and ended a Middle Eastern war and, you know, on top of so many other things.
Speaker 1:And I just I I I don't necessarily have any particular set of kind of questioning for you, but more just I I've enjoyed speaking to you before because you're a deep thinker, and you have a philosophical approach. I just wanted to see from your perspective, where do you see humanity at right now in this battle against some sort of global totalitarian system? Like, what what are you seeing?
Speaker 2:Well, what I'm seeing is, they continue their fight against freedom, democracy, and the rule of law. And their end goal is pretty much to strip us all of our fundamental rights abolishing democracy. Because the point is simply this: what is good for the people is not good for the clobabalitarian misanthropists. But since we are living in democracies, I mean, they can just walk all over us and, you know, dictate to us like they would in China or in North Korea. So they have chosen a slightly different approach.
Speaker 2:So what they're doing is actually they're telling us, you know, look, we really need to save the planet and to do so, you're going to have to cut back on your consumption, you have to cut back on your carbon dioxide emissions and all of this. So it's really, again, huge gaslighting, what is going on, manipulation. And what they're trying to achieve is that people will simply forget what it actually means to live in a democracy, which is government of the people, for the people, and by the people. They kind of want to replace that with government of the globalitarian misanthropists for the cloballitary misanthropists and by the cloballitary misanthropists, but all the while carefully hiding that that's what they're actually trying to establish. So the stage we're in right now, it hasn't really been decided yet.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like it could go either way. And they were realizing that too, just looking at the election results around the world. I mean, you know, Donald Trump back in the White House. Hallelujah. And and you also see it in in in other elections, like what we see in Romania.
Speaker 2:Right? There was the, you know, Karim Czochescu. No one even knew who he was. And here he was, you know, coming in first, the the first round of the presidential elections, and they did not like that one bit. And it's kinda like they want to see people in power or in these positions that they have control over.
Speaker 2:And Carly and Trachasco, obviously, they didn't have control over him, so that posed a threat to their agenda, just as Donald Trump is. Right? And it's not like that Donald Trump is out of control. It's Donald. They don't have control over Donald Trump.
Speaker 2:And that makes him kinda like the enemy from their perspective, just as it was with Karim Chochescu. So we are seeing they are stepping up their game in trying to retain the power to implement these illiberal agendas around the world. And they were attacking us in pretty much every single Western democracy. And to the stage we're at right now is it could go it could go either way. But the people need to be warned.
Speaker 2:They are stepping up their game. They're not hiding it anymore. I mean, annulling elections and, you know, bringing on the lawfare against Donald Trump. I mean, they will try whatever it takes to, yeah, continue to gaslight people, and to retain their power. And that's that's what they're what they're out to do to us.
Speaker 1:And so with this group and and you said a word that I I couldn't understand what it was. Maybe I hadn't heard is it something what was the word you used to refer to these people?
Speaker 2:Globalitarian Neanderpists.
Speaker 1:Globalitarian Neanderpists.
Speaker 2:Rather than you know, a lot of people call them globalist elites.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:But I don't consider them to be elites. Yeah. So what I did is global totalitarian, clobalitarian misanthropists. Yeah. Mean, I really don't know what to call them because I don't even know who these people are.
Speaker 2:But, you know, they are calling the shots. But it's not Klaus Schwab doing that. It's not Ursula von der Leyen. It's it's not Carney. It's not it's it wasn't Biden.
Speaker 2:I mean, they're they're just puppets. Right? Someone else is calling the shots. And like I said, I have no idea who they are. So I just, you know, call them by their term so that everyone knows who I'm talking about, like I said, for lack of a better word.
Speaker 1:That that's I'm glad you mentioned that too because I because I oftentimes refer to them as as the elites, but I hate that term because it's it's like well, it's like, oh, this is an elite car. It means it's it's the best and the the the the highest quality, and it's almost like they're the sub humans. Right?
Speaker 2:So calling a misanthropist is more befitting.
Speaker 1:There you go. There you go. And and this this organization, these these people and I I agree. It's so hard to pinpoint. I mean, you have traces of this and, you know, you get into, say, certain families and bloodlines, and but it's it's difficult because even those things are very hidden.
Speaker 1:And even the I think a lot of the names that we hear about, people say, oh, it's the Rothschilds. It's the Rockefeller's. I think in a lot of ways, even they're just the front men. I think it's the people that we don't even know who they are. And and ultimately, I think it gets into, you know, fallen angels and evil.
Speaker 2:What's the most concerning thing about that is actually we are see we see this happening, like I said, around the world, around the globe, especially in the western democracies. I mean, you know, democracies. I mean, you know, just look at the at the plandemic, you rightly called it plandemic. You know, they were literally reading from the same script. I mean, to the to the to the words they use, you know, no one is safe until everyone is safe and, you know, protect, at home, build back better.
Speaker 2:They were literally reading from the same script. And, you know, that simply does not happen. That all of these, you know, different governments around the world came up with the very same idea and solution to this problem. Right? So that's just kinda like the the way it is.
Speaker 2:And now I did we get disconnected?
Speaker 1:Nope. You're still here.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. Perfect. So, like I said, they were all in lockstep, and that should really concern us because that's an indication as to we are at this point, I mean, all the people around the world, we are in the very same boat. They're attacking all of us. They're attacking all of our freedom, all of our democracy, and all of our fundamental rights and our rule of law.
Speaker 2:They just wanna, you know, abolish it.
Speaker 1:And looking at, you know, part of this, especially speaking to to Europe, if you look at how they've used this weaponized migration of of, you know, a lot of Africa, a lot of the Middle East coming into Europe. Here over in America, it's a lot of South Central America. And, also, you have, you know, a lot of people coming from, you know, same places they're coming into Europe. When I look at this idea of can we can we save the future of humanity? Right?
Speaker 1:We save the future of of America, of Germany, of France, these different countries. I it's almost like you you get to a certain point where, like, have you entered the the road of no return? Right? Because if you look at, say, some of the European countries now, you know, I see videos coming out, whether it's, looking at city, you know, city of London or different parts of Europe, you know, beautiful cities that fifty years ago were these beautiful cities that were beacons of that European culture, right, with with deep, deep, deep heritage. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That culture is being lost, and and my concern is that is this something that can even be undone? Even if the good people say take control, it's it's almost like once you once you take something and and you put I'm not gonna I'm not gonna refer them as poison necessarily, but if you put poison into a pond, it's hard to actually undo that. Once you start mixing all this stuff together, it's hard to undo that. And, obviously, in Europe, you're seeing it. You're seeing this weaponized mass migration and these corrupt politicians just opening their borders similar to, you know, to what Joe Biden did.
Speaker 1:So how do you make sense of that going forward? And and how do you do do you see a path forward, or is Europe in a place where it's maybe a little bit it's got a little you know, too late, too little, basically?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, first of all, we we kinda need to take a look at and, you know, kind of unpack that. Why would they even do something like this? I mean, you know, you really don't only have, like you need only need, like, two functioning brain cells to understand. If you flood any society with a vast amount or vast number, a large number of people that are culturally incompatible with your own society, with your values, what you stand for, it can't work.
Speaker 2:There is no way it could ever work. It would work if you had a strong police state, you know, keeping the peace, but that's not what our societies are like. So the question really is, why are they even doing that? And that is the question that we need to answer first. And I think the answer to that question is simply this.
Speaker 2:We are I mean, they're attacking us on every level possible. And these are attacks our identity, you know, whether it's our cultural identity or national identity. They're not even stopping to attack our sexual identity. I mean, who we are, you know, in the core of our beings, our sexual identity, they don't even shy away from taking that away from us by making people believe, you know, yeah, you can change your sex. No, you can't.
Speaker 2:You I mean, what you can do is you can, you know, dress up as the other sex. You can hack up your body to resemble the other sex, but you will never ever be able to change your biological sex. On the contrary, you will, like I said, just be damaged. You will be a lifelong patient for the pharmaceutical industry. Right?
Speaker 2:And that's what they pretty much aim for. But it's an attack on our our identity. And if you don't know who you are anymore because your identity has been so watered down, you know, and if you can be anything you want and you can change that on any day, any given given day, what are you gonna be in the end? You're gonna be nothing. You don't have you are not an individual anymore with a unique identity.
Speaker 2:And that's exactly what they're, as far as I'm concerned, what they're aiming for. You know, if you don't know who you are, you don't have roots, you don't really, you know, relate to anything of significance in your life anymore, then they have you exactly where they need you to be. You know, just a a male mindless kind of malleable mass. You be a part of that, and they can shuffle you around any which way they need you to be. And that makes you susceptible to just carrying out orders without really thinking about, you know, is that the right thing to do or is that meaningful what I'm doing here?
Speaker 2:So that's that's really what you're trying to get us. And, yeah, you will have would have to say that is what the ultimate enslavement of all human beings on the globe is is probably boiled down to, and that's what they're trying to achieve.
Speaker 1:And so looking at the you mentioned you kinda, like, ask the questions of, okay. Why are they doing this? Right? Why are they and and and the one word that came to mind for me was destabilization. Right?
Speaker 1:And if you look at if you if you study how Rome fell, as an example, one of most powerful empires that's that's ever existed, one of the main things that that caused its fall there are multiple factors, you know, corrupt politicians, the debasement of their currency, etcetera. But one of the big things was just the open borders and the mixing of cultures. And, you know, one example from from Rome is that in times of peace, those cultures can coexist. But when there's, when there's instability, when there is war, then you have every culture reverts to their cultural norms, and and they tribe together to protect themselves. And I suspect that that's exactly what they're trying to do is create that same thing.
Speaker 1:It's like, you know, if I go in my backyard and I take two different types of ants, those ants might be perfectly they exist perfectly on their own. Say, like, the fire ants and the other ants. Like, they're they're perfect. But if you take them, you put them in the same jar and shake it up, they'll go to war with each other. And and I think that's what that's what a part of it is is that they're they're using humans against humans to really to depopulate and destroy cultures.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. You know what? The point is this. I mean, it it is it is a reality. We are living in a world with limited resources.
Speaker 2:Resources. And as long as you can provide, you know, for everyone, then, you know, nothing's gonna happen. But living in a world with limited resources, it they're not only limited, they're on top of that are being made scares, you know, deliberately, like, you know, the deindustrialization that is going on in Germany because we do need to save the planet, right? Energy prices, they're skyrocketing. So that, you know, puts more stress on the resources available and, you know, how they are trying to, yeah, pretty much get the farmers to give up their land and, you know, slaughter their cattle because they're producing carbon dioxide.
Speaker 2:Can you imagine? So, I mean, you know, all of this going on. But if you have a world with limited resources, and eventually, if you have to fight, you know, for these resources, and that's really what life is all about when it comes down to it. It's about survival. So then people will, you know, always try to connect with their own kind, whether it's their own ethnicity or whatever kind of parameter you choose to make out your own group.
Speaker 2:But that's when you have these, yeah, pretty much tribalism, that's what it leads to. And, yeah, that's what they're they're they're literally importing into our societies. So you have, like, these these different tribes, if you want. And the only way you can keep peace in that is with a strong police force. And that seems to be another motive for them to bring all, you know, millions and millions of these so called refugee refugees or refugee seekers, rather, to cause that kind of mayhem.
Speaker 2:And then, you know, the people will voluntarily scream for more police, more order that, you know, the authority that's being exercised in. So eventually it will lead up to that. And that's pretty much where they want us, in a police state where we rely on the authorities to keep peace in our society. But the point is this, we had a peaceful society. And to me, it was like, you know, the biggest accomplishment of a civilized society is to have peace in the public sphere.
Speaker 2:And we had that. We really did. I mean, women in Germany, we could have left the house anytime, whether it was daytime or nighttime, you know. It really wasn't wasn't a big problem, big issue. It now is.
Speaker 2:We are no longer safe. And once again, when you get to that point that the people it's just a matter of time until people will start calling for more surveillance and more police and more, you know, whatever, and that's where they where they want us to be.
Speaker 1:Now you you mentioned life in Germany, and how have you seen that life change? You know, let's just say from growing up into your your younger years to now, like, what is what is life like in in Germany, especially in some of the the bigger, more populated cities in Germany?
Speaker 2:It's, well, it's it's surely slowly, but surely, well, last years, it's gotten more fast, but it's into a hellhole. I remember when I when I grew up, you know, just so we were a secular state. Nobody cared who what what the religion of of, you know, the others were. So the only way we saw this or the only indication we had of this was in school when the Protestants and Catholics, you know, went to different classes pertaining to their religion. That was like, you know, the only thing you could actually see, that there were two major religions in the country.
Speaker 2:But now it's like, so no one cared about religion. It didn't mean that I didn't play with a boy just because he was Catholic and I was Protestant. It didn't matter. It did not matter at all in our lives anymore. Now, however, this religion all of a sudden, you know, it's prevalent everywhere.
Speaker 2:You cannot go without a single hour on any given day without being confronted with religion. But now it's not, you know, the the Christian faith, it's always Islam. It's Whether they pray on the streets or whether you hear, you know, the mosques or whatever it is. Right? So this is really concerning.
Speaker 2:And, sadly, but I have to say, I no longer feel safe in my country. Women are retreating from public spaces such as, you know, you might remember 2015, the New Year's Eve celebration in Cologne, where, I mean, literally a thousand men, you know, ganged up to, know, molest sexually molest hundreds and hundreds of women, and they couldn't do a darn thing about it. The way they went about doing is ganging up with them, isolating them from from their friends, and they were just, you know, like attacking them, grabbing them, penetrating them with whatever they, you know, could think of. So it's really scary. And we are now discussing in Germany publicly if there should be separate carriages on trains just for women so they could feel safe.
Speaker 2:What we're actually doing is we are implementing the lift sexual apartheid regime from these Islam countries that we are importing. That's what we're doing. And on the altar altar of diversity and kindness and what have you, non intolerance, we're actually sacrificing our liberal and free societies just so we won't get called racist or Islamophobes. But it's actually worse what we're seeing. It's our our societies are turning into brutal societies.
Speaker 2:It's, you know, dehumanizing. It's it's just a travesty what what we're seeing. And I mean, take there is now we're talking every single day in Germany. There are two brutal gang rapes occurring every single day. Two.
Speaker 2:And when I'm talking brutal gang rapes, I mean brutal gang rapes. These women are not just not just being raped. They're literally beaten within an inch of their life. Right? And this is now considered, or we're kinda, you know, supposed to accept that.
Speaker 2:I will never, never in my life will I accept that, and I will fight it with with everything I've got. Right? Then add to that, we have these random knife attacks. They're no longer happening on on a daily basis. They're happening on an hourly basis now.
Speaker 2:So there's, like, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen just random knife attacks. Wherever you go, you know, you can be a victim of that too. There is no indication as to when it will happen, who will, you know, be the perpetrator. It they're just there, and, you know, they're their start. So, yes, we are losing our our free liberal intolerant societies.
Speaker 1:It just it's so it's it's beyond sadness. It's it's so Yes. Guess sadness is is, I guess just just to think, like, where our society has has come to. Right? And that it's it's like to step to step back and look back even fifty years or a hundred years and look at, you know, how every aspect of our society has changed.
Speaker 1:Our our our morals, our, you know, the the kind of acceptance of religion, the faith in God used be almost universal within mankind to believe in a higher power. The this all of this is just it's just changed our culture. What's popular? You look at what's trending. I know a lot of the The United States and and, you know, Hollywood and the music industry is is used as a weapon to to really kind of, you know, kinda push filth onto the whole world, the cultural filth of the the the modern rap industry.
Speaker 1:And, you know, you can't watch a TV show these days without like, the first episode of any series, there's always some sort of of homosexual scene. It's like Yeah. Even, like, you know, like, great It's like the first episode, they're always gonna shove that in there. It's just like, what has happened
Speaker 2:to us? That's just the that's just the thing, you know? I mean, my my kind of my understanding is kinda, you know, live and let live, but please do not shove it down our throats. And that's exactly what's happening. You're being confronted with this ideology, you know, whether it's a transgender or whatever it is.
Speaker 2:You're being confronted with this every single second of every day of your life. Like you said, you cannot turn on a TV show without being, you know, confronted with that and with having, you know, this stuff being shoved down your throat. And people are sick and tired of it. And it's what they're trying to achieve by shoving it down our throats is so that this would be somehow recognized as normal. But it's it's not normal.
Speaker 2:That is not how the vast majority of people live their lives. You know? Yes. There are a few people that do choose this lifestyle. Well, let them.
Speaker 2:I don't care, you know, if they do it behind, you know, wherever, but do not shove it down my throat. And the thing is simply this, you can identify as whatever you want. I really don't care. The point is this. You do not have the right to make me part of your delusion.
Speaker 2:I mean, just think back in the days, you know, when someone identified as Napoleon, society didn't bend bend back over backwards to just, you know, make you acceptable and to affirm your delusion. No. You were being treated because you were suffering from a delusion. But now it's not only expected from us, it's now punishable by law if we refuse to participate in your delusion by referring to a biological man as a she. Right?
Speaker 2:Jordan Peterson is completely right about that. That is compelled speech, and it makes me complicit in a delusion that I do not want to be part of. So that's, you know, where we really have to draw the line. Identify as whatever you want. I do not care, but do not make me part of your delusion.
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Speaker 1:And you mentioned how these these a lot of these things have become law. And so, you know, you're one of the very few, people within the political arena that I think I can have even have on my show and have these conversations with. But you obviously you're bumping elbows with politicians around the world. You know, I know you're in Canada right now. You you you have a speaking tour there, and you're you've got all kinds of flack and negativity from, you know, previous political leaders in Canada.
Speaker 1:And, oh, you're, you know, you're some extremist coming. You're not welcome in the country. It's like, well, this is insane. But, you know, as we get into the the idea of these politicians, do what do you think is controlling them? Are are are there politicians that you know that they want to speak up and maybe that they're scared of the backlash?
Speaker 1:Or like, because so many of the things that are happening in our our entire world are being pushed by politicians. And and I suspect a lot of them are are being controlled by blackmail and who knows what else. But why how is it that the politicians have become so corrupted that they are destroying the very nations and and states and people that they're supposed to be looking out for?
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's that's actually a good question. You know, especially once you know that, you know, behind the world, closed doors, they're having an entirely different tune, you know, to a lot of the things that are going on. So but what would prompt them to, you know, just kind of play along and not speak up? That it's a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2:So I'm pretty sure there is, you know, some of them that really that that can be blackmailed with something in their lives or whatever. But that's that's just a very very few. The vast majority of those that, you know, advocate for these insane agendas is a very simple one, it's profit. They're either profiting from it directly or, you know, their families are profiting from it, so that is one part of the reason. Then there is another group of MPs, MEPs, like the parliamentarians.
Speaker 2:They were just so glad to finally belong to the club, right? They get invitations to neo buffets or, you know, to get play golf or whatever. So they're so hard to belong to the club. They do not wanna risk that, and they would risk it if they realized that that whatever they were advocating for was actually not in the best interest of the people, and they would say that publicly. So they just keep their mouth shut.
Speaker 2:So like I said, it's kind of hard to say why they would do that, But there is a very few people of them that they know perfectly well, you know, what we're doing is not the right thing. But they do it anyway because, like I said, it's so great to finally be part of that club that they don't wanna risk it. So, and unfortunately, there is only a very small number of elected representatives in the parliaments around the world that actually do speak up and that do advocate for the best the best of the people of the best interest and serve in their best interest. So yeah. But it's it's beyond me why you would serve anyone other than the ones you got elected by and the ones you are paid by, by the way.
Speaker 2:Well, why why you would even do that? That is actually a big betrayal of the people.
Speaker 1:And so looking at the future, do you have hope? And if you do have hope for the future, what gives you that hope?
Speaker 2:Oh, of course. I mean, if I didn't have hope, I I wouldn't be able to do this. Right? I would just probably, you know, withdraw and, you know, roll over and kind of play dead, whatever. No.
Speaker 2:No. No. There there is absolutely hope, and we must never lose that hope. Because if you look back in history, you know, truth and justice, it always prevailed in the end. It might have been, you know, a struggle, but generations before us has gone through that struggle too.
Speaker 2:And the circumstances were way worse than what we are up against today. Right? I mean, our forefathers, they were literally spilling their blood to wrestle the the power from former elites. So, yeah, you you must never give up hope. So what is really or giving me hope at this point is to see that people are waking up, people are wisening up to what is going on.
Speaker 2:And that's probably one of the best things that came out of COVID, is that large and vast amounts of people realized what the underlying, the ulterior motive was. It was never about breaking any waves. It was always about breaking people, and that's why they implemented all of these measures and turning fundamental rights into privileges that the government can grant or withhold depending on how you behave. So a lot of people woke up to that. A lot of people saw through that BS and called it out.
Speaker 2:Initially it was a few, but the numbers grew and that's what really gives me hope. And I've been saying that like years ago. My hope actually rested on the one hand with the Americans, with the American people, because Americans, they have such a much more profound understanding of freedom. You don't find it to that of an extent in in Europe. So my hope kinda rested with the American people that they would not take this any longer and that would eventually stand up, which they are doing now.
Speaker 2:And my hope also rests with the Eastern European countries. I mean, they've lived through totalitarianism. And they recognize totalitarianism when they see it. And they are seeing it now. They're recognizing the mechanisms and, you know, all of the the agendas that have been implemented back then under the pretense of, you know, it's the best for the people.
Speaker 2:So they're seeing through that BS. They have learned how to read newspaper. It's not important what the newspaper says. The important thing is what doesn't it say and what is what is it saying between the lines. So they're realizing that and they are beginning to rise up and speak up.
Speaker 2:So that's where my hope lies. And of course my hope lies within the people that haven't forgotten what freedom, democracy, and the rule of law is all about. And I mean, notably there, or that stood out really among all of the protests that were organized, were the Canadian Freedom Truckers, right? So that really gave me a lot of hope. Just, you know, the signal that I kind of needed.
Speaker 2:Well, not all is lost and my fight is not for nothing. People are actually rising up and that's the good thing. So yeah, absolutely, I have hope. That's why I continue to do what I've been doing to pretty much shine a light on the sinister agendas they're trying to implement around the world and calling just calling them out on it. So and that's I encourage people to do that because totalitarianism, that's that's the interesting thing about that.
Speaker 2:Which, by the way, that is the difference even between a a dictatorship and totalitarianism. A dictator, the only thing he's concerned about is staying in power, but he doesn't really care what you really think about him. You are not allowed to say what you think about about the dictator. You you can as long as you keep it to yourself, he does not he does not care what you think about it. Totalitarianism, on the other hand, they need to control your thinking.
Speaker 2:You are not even allowed to think in different ways than that what what they give you as the narrative. So that that's, like, the the difference. But totalitarianism only works if no one contradicts and if no one challenges it. So every single dissenting voice will break that cycle on which totalitarianism actually functions. And so that's why they're so adamant about shutting us up, criminalizing us, persecuting us.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're going to jail now for mean tweets. Can you imagine? So, but they're doing that because they understand they need to silence the dissenting voices. And if they fail to do that, then they fail in erecting their totalitarian regime. So please speak up.
Speaker 2:Never allow them to dictate to you what you can think and what you can say. That's pretty much all there is. And always keep in mind compliance and silence enable tyrants. So speak up.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you went to that because I was gonna ask, what is your advice for people? Right? You know, for the average person that's watching this and thinking they can feel this coming in. They see it creeping in. What the advice is?
Speaker 1:And and, actually, I'll I'll say a quick thing is that you mentioned the people that came from Eastern Europe that lived under under communism, especially, you know, Soviet Union, and how they can see it. It's interesting because one of my neighbors, lovely, lovely family, I was talking to the woman, and she's she's at the grandmother age now. And she was, you know, talking to me, and I found out she was from Eastern Europe, and she had lived under communism before. And, she's here in America, obviously. She's my neighbor.
Speaker 1:And, she said, you know, I can feel it in my bones that communism is creeping into America. She goes, it's hard to describe. She goes, I felt it ten, fifteen years ago in this country. I could feel the same entity that was ruling in Europe is now taking a lot of, power and and holding power even here in America.
Speaker 2:It's yeah. And, you know, that that that just that's what what separates us from people that actually have lived in a totalitarian regime. They know. They know perfectly well. What we suffer from in in the Western world, the western democracies, if you want, we have become spoiled, rotten brats.
Speaker 2:We no longer put any value on freedom, democracy, and a rule of law.
Speaker 1:It's your average American too.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We kinda grew up with it. It was always there. And we have somehow come to believe it's always been there and it's always gonna be there. And we've completely forgotten, no, it had to be wrestled from the former elites once in in brutal and bloody fights.
Speaker 2:And if you if you don't defend it, then it will slip away. As Juan Reginald said, you know, freedom is only one generation away or is only one generation from becoming extinct, something like that. So that's absolutely true. So if you wanna continue to live in freedom, democracy, and a rule of law, you have to get up and do something about it. You have to defend it and fight for it every single day.
Speaker 2:And you need to call out those that are threatening it. And it's at this moment, our freedom of democracy and our rule of law is being threatened by the ones that we elected to govern us. And if people don't begin to understand that, then yeah, we are going to be in very big trouble. And, again, given the psyche the technical means that have at their disposal nowadays, we are not only talking about forty years of Eastern Germany or seventy years of of Soviet Union, we will be talking about a damn long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I I couldn't agree more. Like, that's the thing is that because before, you would have tyranny in certain countries, but you also had freedom in the other countries, and it created this perspective that, you know, people it's like, why, you know, why in China, for instance? You know, China which I've I've you know, that was what it was for me even though, like, I grew up in a very simple Midwestern home in America. You know, great, great childhood, lived on, you know, near the farm and and grew up and playing in the mud and swimming in the river and and these beautiful things.
Speaker 1:And but for me, there's this turning point in in my life. And, actually, what it was for me is I in my in college, I had met this guy that was a nice really nice guy who's he was on I think he was on a full ride scholarship for his master's at a prestigious university in America, and he's from China. And he was a younger guy, and I found out he had spent eight years in a forced labor camp. So he had spent eight years, like, literally being tortured, electrocuted. Now for him, was because he was a Falun Gong practitioner, which is one of the, you know, kind of religions and belief systems that the CCP has really targeted.
Speaker 1:Right? But it's also it's Christianity. It's it's really any belief system that the communists don't control. Yeah. But that's why they they have to keep they have to close off that thought so much so that you don't have these examples of the other countries.
Speaker 1:They say they can't see what life is like in a free country, because it's the idea that becomes a cancer to the totalitarian system, the idea of what freedom should look like. And Yeah. So we've always had that, but I write I you you said that if we can't escape this, you know, we'll be under this rule for a damn long time. Yep. And that's my concern too because what we're what we're facing is not a single country following the tyranny, but we're say we're facing Exactly.
Speaker 1:The whole world following the tyranny and one that has the technology to build a a global technocratic system where everyone is enslaved. And that's that and that's truly what we're up against.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And that's that is the most scary part of it all. You know? If it was one or two or three countries going broke. You know?
Speaker 2:The people of these countries, they would have, you know, the justified expectation that eventually, you know, someone is gonna step in and put a stop to this tyranny. But now we're all in the same boat. Who do you think is gonna show up and help you? It's not gonna be the Chinese. It's it's not gonna be North Korea, and it's not gonna be Russia either, to be honest.
Speaker 2:So we are all in they are in lockstep. It's happening everywhere. So it's it's up to us. We, the people, need to fight this. There isn't gonna be anyone coming this time around.
Speaker 2:Trust me. They're all in cahoots with one another.
Speaker 1:Especially if America falls. As much as America has, you know, a a very corrupted government and a corrupted military industrial complex, and we've been doing regime changes all over with the CIA and color revolutions. And we've certainly done our fair share of bad things. However, America has been a beacon of hope. You know, you look at the second amendment, the first amendment, the constitution, you know, the American people, the the me's, the men in America, the women in America, I think, do represent hope.
Speaker 1:But if America falls if America falls, then the whole world falls into into darkness Yes. For it could be a thousand years of darkness before something changes.
Speaker 2:Yes. So, yeah, I I really hope that the American people continue to do the right thing. I mean, you know, reelecting Donald Trump in the White House, that that that that that isn't the the the victory. You know? It was a victory, but it it doesn't stop there.
Speaker 2:So the next election come around, they're faced with the same problem again. You know? If they once again elect one of the club ballet or the puppet one of the puppets of the club ballet giant misanthropists, you know, they're gonna be right back at square one. So, yeah, you're absolutely right. If America falls, if the American people no longer come up with the strength to do the right thing and elect someone who is actually fighting and fending for the people and for the for The US constitution, then, yeah, the whole world is gonna be in in big, big trouble.
Speaker 1:I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. So this is really it's it's a rally. It's a call to arms for people really around the world, especially here in America where where I'm focused. But Yeah.
Speaker 1:That we we have to stand up. We have to speak up. We we cannot be silenced, because yeah. If it's we're we're on the we're on the precipice. That's the thing is that we are truly on the prep precipice of a a very, very, very long time where generations and generations after us will live under a slave system.
Speaker 1:And and and it's it's it's frightening, but there's also hope. But it's still it's still very frightening.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. That absolutely is. And, you know, to say that, that's just the thing. I mean, that's exactly how totalitarianism works. You know, like, if you've seen that in in during the pandemic.
Speaker 2:And people, they just, you know, complied with whatever word was asked of them. Right? Putting on masks or taking an mRNA shot, staying at home, and letting granny die all by herself out of fear she would contract COVID. Right? I mean, that in and of itself, that was that that probably the most cruelest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2:And I'm pretty sure that all of these elderlies that did die, you know, all alone, and, you know, completely lonely, probably they died of loneliness, they would have gladly taken the risk of possibly catching COVID if it had meant to see their loved ones just one more time. Right? So I mean, totally ridiculous where we were all going with this. Yeah, totalitarianism works on the fear of people. And I do understand that a lot of people, they complied out of fear of what the government might do to them, when in reality, they should be way more afraid of what the government will do to each and one of them if they continued to comply.
Speaker 2:You know, they would have just taken it one step at a time, and they would have tightened the thumb screws even tighter each term. Right? So, yeah, like I said, if you just comply because you're afraid of your government, well, you have no idea what you have coming if you continue to comply. You have no idea what they're actually capable of and what they will do if you continue to comply.
Speaker 1:I couldn't agree more. I think that it's it's a good message for us to to kind of wrap up on is just that exact message. It's just it's it's really a wake up call of where we're at and what will happen if we comply, and what happens if we just get lulled back into our silence and our comfort, which is that that's really it's been an it's it's been a Yeah. It's been a parasite to the American culture. This this Yes.
Speaker 1:Culture of comfort and and football and entertainment and bread and circuses as we've Exactly. Been become distracted.
Speaker 2:And and and add fear to fear to this. Right? People in fear, they're kept in this constant, however irrational that fear is. But if you have that constant fear, you know, they can do whatever with you. You know, you will grasp any straw that they're giving to you, and and you will gladly embrace it as, you know, a good thing.
Speaker 2:But as Albert Camus once said, in order to defy an unfree world, you yourself have to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion. That's that's a pretty powerful statement. So do not be afraid. As long as you're afraid, then they have power over you. Take the power away.
Speaker 2:Don't be afraid anymore. Don't be afraid.
Speaker 1:Well, there you go. Well, Christine, thank you. Thank you for doing what you're doing, being fearless, amidst all the difficulties I'm sure you're facing every day. Your voice is important. And, hopefully, this conversation is was helpful for people to, I think, kinda stir them a little bit.
Speaker 1:Say, hey. Wake up. Wake up. This is what's coming. But also to what what you've just reminded, we cannot have fear.
Speaker 1:We cannot we cannot bow down. We cannot comply because everything is on the line here. And I I appreciate what you've been doing to get that message out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well, that's, you know, the bit I can do. And I hope to to make people understand and inspire them to also speak up and not be silenced any longer.
Speaker 1:And, lastly, is there anything that people that you would like to kinda direct people to in any whether it's following you on social media or any website, you know, what can people do to to support what you're doing?
Speaker 2:Well, the biggest support or the biggest way of supporting me would actually to do what I what I just asked of you. Do not be silenced anymore. Speak up, and just, you know, let your government know that you will no longer just, you know, tag along and, you know, be complacent with whatever they have in store for you, that you have a mind of your own, and that is actually you that is in charge of running the country and not the government. The government was elected by you to do your bidding. So make them see that they have to do your bidding.
Speaker 2:And other than that, yeah, it would be nice if you could give me a follow on social media. Just Google me, and you'll stumble across all my social media accounts. And just spread the word, and don't be silenced.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, Christine. It it's such a pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 2:Thank you again for having me. It was a pleasure to my pleasure.
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