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Highlights and extended interviews from 91.5 Jazz and More's morning show.
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Hey, this is Nashen in the Morning Groove and welcome to the podcast. Interesting people today. They are masterful life coaches and success coaches and authors and just great all-around people that I was able to meet through a wonderful lady named Magdalena Brandon, who I'm very happy to say is part of my life. And welcome, Jesse and Lisa.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for having us. They are Jesse and Lisa Farrell. And who wants to talk first? I want to know about you guys.
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Go ahead, Jess. Give them the backstory. The backstory is I always like to let my wife go first, but she wants me to go first. I'll say a quick backstory. I would say that the quick backstory is that we absolutely love being connected with people. We love being difference makers in people's lives. Both Lisa independently before me and certainly also me before her and then together, we like being difference makers in people's lives. And the background that we have, whether it's educational or life circumstances or situational,
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I believe has prepped us to be in a position to really truly help people evolve and get it. And I noticed when I was at your book signing that you are extremely positive, both of you. You obviously know the four agreements and the fifth one as well.
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Yes.
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Yes. And use them.
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Yes.
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What I liked about what I perceived immediately was that you're using this experience and knowledge for other people's good.
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Exactly. We believe exactly what you just said. We live into exactly what you just said. Lisa and I have learned this and we've lived this. We believe that we were not afforded the luxury of being average. We were not afforded the luxury of being average. We've always had to excel and stand up and rise through very difficult, challenging life circumstances and that's the reason why we wrote our book is to help people to rise as well whether they know us or not. We want to help millions of people that may never meet us just by the power of the word.
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The title of that book is great.
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It's How You Leave Them Feeling. That's a cool story. The short story, and then I'm going to toss the ball to Lisa. The short story, we did not create that. That was actually a download.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah. We were in a coaching session with an amazing Canadian, and they're typically by group nicer than Americans by group. You can argue that, but that's been...
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I'm not going to argue that. I've been to Canada. Fair enough.
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So you know.
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Fair enough. So he was having some challenging time with one of his vice presidents and he began to kind of go after him pretty hard and I was attempting to help in the middle of a coaching session and he kept interrupting me. And every time he interrupted me, by the third interruption, I thought, okay, I need to just listen. So I listened for about 40 minutes of rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, and when he finished I said, you know, it's come to me that if you really want to help people create an incentive to do what you want and need for them to do, it's all about how you leave them feeling. And then I hung up that session and I'm going to find the book. I couldn't find the book. I thought, who can write that book for us? Who can write that book? I'm thinking about all these people that can write this book. I go through 16 and 17, 18. Wait a minute, I'm supposed to write that book.
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That's right.
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So the concept came from a challenging situation in the middle of a coaching session with an executive that owned resorts, and he could not realize, as smart as he was, that the way he was leaving that vice president feeling was the reason why he wasn't getting what he wanted. And by the way, he was the first person to buy the book. Bought 2,500 copies.
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All right. Well, that's great.
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What do you think of that story, John?
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Oh, I think it's a wonderful story. It's really positive. And I've worked with people and for people that don't know the art of listening.
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The art of listening. Brilliant. Well said. And by the way, the best part about communication is what you hear, what you're listening, not just always what you say. I think that the best part is the listening part. And Lisa, I'll toss the ball to Lisa. Lisa's brilliant. One of her best talents, I think her very best talent is the power of listening. Go ahead, Lisa, share your thoughts.
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Well, hence the name of my company, Lisa Listen. So, Jesse and I, when I retired from corporate in 2013 I'm like what should the name of my business be Jeff? and he's like sitting there and he's like you know you are one of the best listeners I know he goes how do you feel about Lisa Listen? and I went oh my god that's it! Yes I love it!
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and hence the name. Names are interesting it's like when I came up with the name not only for the podcast but for the radio show my new boss Jason comes in and he says, what are you going to call your show? And I said, um, and my brain went, okay, we groove and it's morning. It's the morning groove.
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I love it.
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I love it. And people are sometimes curious why I tend to use just my last name. And it's because I had a boss for years that only called me by my last name. Really? So now all my corporate email and correspondence, I just use Nashen.
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Well, you know Nashen, not John. You know we're related, right? We are. Because I grew up in a small town, Hawthorne, Nevada, and because we were athletes and my father was in the military, everybody called us by our last names. So a lot of our relatives call us Farrell, even though that's our last name. So I get it. That's good. Oh yeah.
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My mother used to discipline me that way.
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Really?
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What would she say?
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Hey Nashen, why'd you do that? My father, I'm a junior. And when I did something really rotten that really upset her, she said, I gave you the right name.
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Jesse's a junior.
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Yep.
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I'm what my mother called a real junior because dad didn't have a middle name and I don't
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either. Dad didn't have a middle name, so you didn't have a middle name because your dad didn't have a middle name. Right. Well, I have a middle name and guess who my middle name was named after?
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Who's that?
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When black women have young boys that they want to have some relevance and they want to put some credence in them, they name them after dead white presidents.
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Ah.
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Cleveland, Roosevelt, John, so my middle name is Cleveland. Oh that's great. That's great. And that just immediately clicked in my brain because one of my old favorite bass players
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in Chicago is Cleveland Eaton.
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See, that's why.
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Who worked with the Ramsey Lewis Trio.
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Oh wow.
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That's amazing.
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Oh yeah. So our mothers were related to his mother, that's why.
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That's right.
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So how long have you guys, how did you meet? That's what I'm curious about.
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Oh boy.
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I want Lisa to tell the PG a soft version of that.
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Okay. So in 2005 I was looking for a life coach. I had an all-time low. There were several women coaches and there were very few male coaches. Because I had three failed relationships, I thought what better way to figure out how to fix myself than to be honest with a man from a man's perspective. So here comes the general manager of the TV station and he says yes I've got this guy here's his number. I called and he said well I have waiting list only I don't know that I have room for you and I said well I don't even know if you're the coach for me can we meet and see if we're a match and we can go from there. So he said well everything that you need help with is right in my wheelhouse. He said, I think I can move you up the list. And I started a couple of weeks later. We worked together for a year. And after working together for a year, he said, you know, you've done some amazing work. I think you're ready to define what that man looks like, what kind of job, what kind of car, define him down to the T. And I said, well, that would be really easy because that man is you.
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Yeah, and that's what I said, what you said. So it was really powerful. I never saw that coming, but I did want her to define fully the man. Think about who you want in your life. Is he athletic? Is he a reader? Is he compassionate? Does he care? Is he willing to express his emotions? Really specifically dial in to who you want to attract into your life. And there was a
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list of 54 things. Wow. Yeah, 54. A non-smoking man, a family man. I mean it's pretty extensive. And when he said, you really have created that list? I said, I did. I created it in 2003. So I had manifested the man that I wanted. I just
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didn't know it was going to be him. Yeah, I've got a similar story. I was last year during our membership drive, Magdalena has been a long time listener, and I get into a thing during membership drives where I start shaming people. You know, if you've been listening for 10 years, why aren't you a member? If you've been listening 20 years, you should be a member. And here's the different levels. And I got to the one where it says, for this amount of money, which is $365, you can come in, spend an hour on the radio, talk about yourself, talk about your business, and have the tax deduction. And she immediately called and told the boss, okay, the guy on the radio shamed me into being a member, so here's my credit card number, here's my membership. And they scheduled her, and she walked into the room and randomly scheduled her with me.
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Nice.
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And she walked into the studio on May 19th and it was one of those stunning lightning bolt kind of experiences for both of us.
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You knew at the moment.
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And towards the end of the hour I asked her for her phone number and before she even got to her car I texted her.
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Wow, you don't mess around.
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Neither does she.
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You know her.
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I do know her. I do.
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Yeah, she doesn't mess around.
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Well, so on that note, she posted that she was coming. And she said something about, I want somebody to match the 500, which then Jesse and I called the station because of her post. That's what got us in.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's kind of interesting the way it all went down. That is pretty huge, that's a great story. I actually am happy to say that she told me that I fit her list. Oh that's perfect. Wow, and so you're coming up on a year?
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Almost, yeah, May 19th. Wow. And there are no accidents. No there aren't. There are no accidents. That was absolutely above you and beyond you to pull that together. Divine intervention. That happened because it was supposed to happen.
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Oh, exactly. And I had been through a really rough patch in my life where I was ill and a woman left after 40 years of being together. So you had a broken heart. And I was a broken human physically. And I had gone through a severe illness that kept me down for almost six months. And you know her well enough to know she told me she said you had to do that to be ready for it.
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Oh my gosh.
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100%.
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And here's what I'll add to her point on that is a single word, umuntu. We got it from South Africa, umuntu ingumuntu ingumuntu. And that's South African from the Zulu tribe that means people are people because of others. You are who you are because of the people you connect with. You both wanted and needed each other. You had to be ready. So you had to go through those challenges.
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Chapter 4, the Umuntu Factor, right there.
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You just gave us a live version of the Umuntu Factor. You were better because of yourself and the work you did and because of her and vice versa.
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And I also have to give a little bit of credit to rekindling my faith.
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Fair enough. That's fair.
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Absolutely.
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That's fair. In other words, you had to have a bigger belief system that helped guide you, basically.
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Yeah. I had spent 40 years away from my faith. And somebody... Wow. You know, when you're at home alone and you're depressed and you don't want to go to the bar and you don't want to do anything to alter yourself and you don't know who to talk to because it's after midnight, you put it on Facebook. And the first call I got was Clint Holmes, who I've known for many years as Brother U OK? And then an old friend from Palm Springs called and said, I think we need to pray together.
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Love it.
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I love that. Gave me titles of a couple of books. Yeah. Jesus Calling and Jesus Listens and I use them religiously every day. And those people that pray together stay together. There's power in prayer. And Magdalena and I share those prayers every day. Wow. Impressive. Jesse and I have prayers we share every day. Yeah. Impressive. So you know I want to be like up now.
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The only advice I ever give people about prayer is that don't ask for a lot of stuff. Be thankful first.
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We agree with you. We are thankful first and consistently. We also typically, when we are praying, we are not typically asking for stuff for us. We are typically asking for stuff for others.
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Typically.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. I am always thankful for my grandchildren and my kid and my family and Magdalena and then I start thinking, asking for things for other people.
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And so he says that, he says about his grandchildren, and our grandson is spending the night with us tonight for the first time. Is he three or four now? He's just a little over four. He's just over four and I'm telling you he's four going on 14. Yes. Okay, so he will be making sure he lays out the plan for us tonight.
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Well wait a few years until he's nine going on 30.
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We have a granddaughter that's eight going on 40. Oh yeah.
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My grandson is nine and his sister is six.
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But think of this though, Nashlyn. The world is so different now than when you and I and Lisa were kids. They have oodles and countless, a plethora of choices yeah we had one choice you remember this you better be home before dark that was it you went out to play you found things out to play you have all the games in the options in the social media and all this stuff three television channels ABC NBC and CBS exactly so yes they're more advanced than we were because they have far more at their disposal than we ever had yeah but I personally would like to see them spend less time on their devices. I totally agree. We talk about that all the time. In fact, who was that recently that we were talking to that was, I can't remember, that had a child and they were with kids and the other kids were on their devices, but their kids, oh I know, there's a client, I can't name the name, but a client I was talking with, she had a client, she has two kids and one of the kids is a young girl and they went out to the beach and stuff and the girl was taken to the beach in the sand but the friends that they were with they were actually playing on the phones of the parents and stuff. Yep. No, enjoy the beach. You're at the beach, especially if you don't have a beach in your backyard.
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But not only that, you go out to dinner and you see couples sitting across from one another and they're on their phone and they're not even conversing together. All the time. And that's the role model for the children?
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And that's the new norm.
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That the parents are on their phone? It's an addiction.
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Yeah, the good thing I see in that, and it goes with the concept of everything has a reason. If these kids weren't so in tune with the devices, they never would have been educated during COVID. My grandson sat on Zoom and went to school for a year and a half.
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At what age then? Was he six? Was it kindergarten?
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Six or seven, yeah.
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Because our granddaughter started kindergarten on Zoom.
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That's right.
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Which I think is very challenging because that's when you're kinesthetic and you're doing finger painting and you're playing babies and house and all of those important skills that they just missed.
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And the problem I see with the young people I encounter at UNLV at times is they don't know how to interact with humans.
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And that's the whole reason for how you leave them feeling. It's not just about stuff to do. There's also things not to do. The things to do and things not to do. And the how you leave them feeling concept is really simple. The concept basically is, Kaushan, the desire to leave people, circumstances, and situations better than you found them.
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Yes.
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How do you do that with every interaction? Just consider, how can I leave this better than I found it? That's the whole reason for writing it. If you follow that path, you're likely going to be able to serve others better and well, and you're going to be able to serve yourself. Even if you just think about the concept, even if you don't read the book. Simple. You want it very simple.
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And there is one concept in there that's called the color code. It's a personality science that was life-changing for Jesse and my relationship. It's very simple. We did tons of studies to see which personality assessment was the easiest to remember and the most affordable and we came up with the color code and Jesse's like, well I'm not going to have you do it because we're so much alike and then he's like, wait a minute it's
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only $39.95, you go ahead and take that. How can I say, you don't need to take it, we have so much in common, we're so much alike, when I'm just learning the system. I don't know that, I think I know that, but I don't know that. So toss the ball back to Lisa, she says, yeah, okay, I will take the assessment.
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And the number one thing that was a game changer for our personal relationship was he's a blue-red, blues like intimate conversations, reds obviously the power of getting things done. Whites, no conflict, inner peace at all costs. And yellows are motivated by fun and enthusiastic people. So, I'm a white-blue. And when he'd come at me and go like this, what do you think? And can I get an answer? And this and this and this. What do you think that was doing to me?
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It was creating conflict and confrontation. But the desire was to create an outcome for something that was going to be good for both sides. But that's not the way to approach it and what the color code speaks to the color code says when you get self when you understand yourself those four distinctions of yourself you're learning those four distinctions so when you get self you get others right and the goal is to learn to speak the language of others what most of us do is we speak our language if you're if you're tight and abrupt and quick you want to get to it that's how you speak to people. But wait a minute. What if someone is deep and needs more time and you're in their face? That's
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probably not the way to speak to them. You're not going to get what you want and need out of life because it's not the way you want to be talked to. And most parents, they treat their kids the same way and everyone is an individual. And once you realize that and treat them the way they want to be treated, you're going to get pretty much what you want and need out of life.
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Exactly. So Dr. Taylor Hartman is the author of The Color Code, the creator of The Color Code, and he basically cast it, and he's done a lot of psychological studies and so forth, and when he wrote this, he wrote it on the basis of the driving core motive, and they call it DCM, what is your driving core motive? And the driving core motive is associated with why you do what you do. When you understand why someone's doing what they're doing, you are understanding them, now you can connect with them.
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Yeah, I have a cousin that works for a high-tech company in sales. And their CEO circulated a book among all their employees, salespeople first, about why we do what we do, how we do it.
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Yes.
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What's the title?
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I can't remember, but that's what it's about.
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You'll have to find out and get back to us. I will.
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Yeah. Because it worked.
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It worked for them. It's an amazing thing. You said there was a CEO that did that? Mm-hmm. The CEO was right on point because the biggest... What do you think the number one problem, okay, in our coaching business and our speaking business, what do you think the number one problem we typically help people solve, just think about it for a second, or that they're challenged by that, it's broken and it needs to be repaired or corrected, what do you think the number one problem is? Besides relationships, communication. 100% communication. And I'm talking smart people. Not all smart people do smart things. And the communication is the... just because you're smart doesn't mean you do everything smart. You may have massive intelligence, but common sense, common courtesy, and learning to communicate effectively and efficiently is a lost art. So that's what we teach a lot.
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It is, and I've had to somewhat amend my communication skills
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Of course.
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being part of UNLV, because to some of these kids that walk around, I'm that old guy that walks through the hallway.
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100%. 100%.
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And then when they come in and they watch me work, now they're going, maybe he's got something I can learn.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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It's true.
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Right. Absolutely. But to their defense, most of us are born with judgment. Yes. Most of us are taught to judge. And part of that judgment, the share of that judgment, is us making sure that we're okay in that environment. So you're checking the people out and you're making distinctions and you're making a confirmation of things that really are just on the visual sense, just looking at you visually. That's not all you are. That's a percentage of who
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you are.
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Yeah, one of the things that I will never stop judging is me. I still occasionally will re-read the poem that Bill Parcells used with the New York Giants called the man in the glass.
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Yes.
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That's all about...
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You get what you want in your struggle for self and the world makes you king for a day. Yep. Just go to the mirror, take a look at yourself and see what that man has to say. Am I on track?
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Mm-hmm.
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That's exactly it.
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The brother got it. Yeah, it is. And because the only one you really need to please first is the man in the glass.
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Yes.
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Right. And I remember even when we were kids, my dad used to tell us, when you get up in the morning and you go in the bathroom and look in the mirror, if you can smile and the guy smiles back at you, you're going to be okay.
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That's a good piece. That's a great poem, and I 100% believe. The listeners, if you're listening to this right now, if you're not familiar with The Man in the Glass, just put into Google The Man in the Glass. It's an amazing poem. What you're saying, that's why I memorized it, because it's so powerful.
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Man or woman.
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It's man or woman, but man metaphorically.
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We forget sometimes we have to include...
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We didn't write the poem.
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No, we didn't.
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I'm just sticking up for all you ladies out there. I got you back, don't you worry.
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If I'm correct, it was the poem that Bill Parcells used in the locker room right before a Super Bowl.
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Oh, I did not know that.
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That's cool. With the New York Giants, and they won.
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That's so cool.
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I did not know that.
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Yeah. That's cool. With the New York Giants and they won. That's so cool.
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I did not know that. That's cool. Oh yeah. Because I think the first person that we tend to trip is ourselves. 100%. And oftentimes we don't even know that, Nash. We don't know that. And oftentimes that trip stays repetitive. We stay on that tripping path and then it becomes normal. And then it becomes what you're used to. And it's very difficult for people to break habits. Even if it's a bad habit. But when they're bad habits, you think, okay, you realize this is ruining your life. Why won't you make the correction? Because that's what they're used to.
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Yeah. I recently talked with someone who works in another business, but is a good friend, who is baffled by his co-workers. And he was complaining about them, and I said, stop. What you need to do because you won't change them, they're adults, is you need to be the best professional you can be and lead by example. Because they're not going to listen to you. That's right. And I said, how does your manager interact with them? He said, well, my manager just says they can't be managed. Well where does it start? Well yes, but I mean some people have been unmanaged for so long that they can't be managed. And because
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they're stuck in their habitual way of being. They can be unstuck but typically in situations like that what we have experienced is it usually takes something catastrophic to get them to be uprooted from that stuckness.
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Well, it happened to me.
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So you had to be catastrophic, otherwise you wouldn't get your butt in gear and make the
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change. I couldn't get out of a chair one night, and when they got me to the ICU, it was sepsis, pneumonia, and kidney failure.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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And that wake-up call did what to you? Oh, it changed my life. It changed my life, opened my eyes, and it helped me prepare for what is now the best relationship I've ever had with another human being.
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That's huge.
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I love that. That is huge. That was life changing.
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Oh yeah. My relationship with my son is better. My relationship with his children is better. My daughter-in-law is loving me now.
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I love what you just said. There's a quote, not in this book of How You Leave Them Feeling, but we've got three books in the series. Okay. And the first two are on personal and professional development. But it says, be careful of the company that you keep because your quality of life depends on it.
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Wow. That's strong.
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Be careful of the company that you keep. Your quality of life depends on it. When that was written in the book, I was dealing with the editor. And she said, okay, we forgot to give reference to this quote. I go, what quote? She goes, the quote. I go, no, what quote are you talking about? She said, the quote right here. I go, I don't, there's no quote right here. She goes, yeah. I said, well, please read it. And she read it. She says, be careful with the company that you keep because your quality of life depends on it. I said, no, that's not a quote. I was just saying that. She said, no, no, that's a quote.
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Yeah, it is.
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Right.
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What's the other one?
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Her name is Cher Weldon. About keeping, uh, that Giacconi, that Papa Giacconi gave you about people, they're always taking your measure.
0:26:24
Yeah. People are always taking your measure. That came from Vittorio Ciccone from Vancouver, Canada He also told his kids you when you put put yourself together to go outside make put yourself together Well, because you want to be mindful that people are always taking your measure
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Yeah, which is a concept that a mentor of mine in the music industry Taught me he said at home You always know who's watching right when you walk out the door
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you never know. That's right. So true. People are always taking your measure.
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It's true. There was another one in the book that I want to share really quickly if I can find it really quickly. Because we're talking about quotes and I know exactly, I marked it and it was right here. I love this. So, and flipping back to the color code conversation and people can take the color code for free, by the way. If you take it for free, it'll tell you what your main color is. That's it. If you pay for it, then it'll give you all four colors plus your wants, your needs, your strengths, your limitations. So strengths and limitations. The strengths of your character is what people are gravitated to. Your limitations of your character is what people are repulsed by. And we all have them to some degree, but once you're aware of them, you can work on removing those limitations. And here's this quote. It says this, and it came from Dr. Hartman. I know I got it from some other source, but I got it from him. If you argue for your limitations, they are yours. So when you have limitations that you want to hold on to, Lisa and I were in a workshop with a Fortune 100 company, and the gentleman was a red-blue-red. They're motivated by the power of getting things done and execution. Blues are motivated by being understood. He was a red-blue, strong red-blue. He had some red limitations and we were talking about, I was setting the team up to be able to remove the limitations. He's like, uh-uh. He's patting it, uh-uh. This is me. This is me. I said, okay. I'm not going to go after that red in front of all these people. So I pick a white and a yellow and I create an example of what holding on to limitations looks like because he was arguing for his limitation. Well this is who I am, this is who I am. I know but that's the party that people don't like. Was it relentless? Was that the limitation? It was several limitations. That relentless was definitely one of them. He was hanging on to that as a limitation like it was a strength. But if you argue for your limitations, they are yours for life. You've got to be willing to remove those limitations because that lets you grow the healthiness of your character, if that makes sense.
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It does. It makes a lot of sense. So give them your website address.
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Justtalk.com. That's J-E-S-S-T-A-L-K.com.
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And you can also go to justtalk.com, up in the upper right hand corner, click resources, books, and buy the book. If you reach out to us independently on an email, who knows, we might choose to discount it for you.
0:29:24
Oh my goodness. And so there will be links on the website for all of what we've been talking about?
0:29:33
Everything we do.
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Yes. They can go right there.
0:29:36
They can see it right under resources. And the color code situation is there too?
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Yeah, the color code, if you go to the resources, they'll also have a contact us and you can email us and we can send them or direct them right to where they can find the resources.
0:29:49
That's excellent.
0:29:50
Excellent.
0:29:51
Boy, I'm certainly enjoying having you in today.
0:29:54
Well, we're enjoying all your stories. I thought that we were going to be selling him the stories. He's got stories as good as ours and some are better.
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I think we have to come back, John.
0:30:02
Well, we'll talk about that. But I want to thank you for being here today.
0:30:07
Thank you for having us.
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Thank you so much.
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And I wish you both the best of everything all the time.
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Ditto.
0:30:13
Right back at you. And I thank all of you for being with us and listening. This is the Morning Groove podcast. We are at themorninggroove.transistor.fm. and today we've been with Jesse and Lisa Farrell, the authors of How You Leave Them Feeling. There it is. And make sure you tune in and check back with us often, because we'll be adding to this podcast on a regular basis. And make sure you tune in and check back with us often, because we'll be adding to this podcast on a regular basis. I thank you, and be safe, be happy, and groove.
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