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Step into the dark side of public speaking with “The Public Speaking Horror Show,” where we expose the chilling fears and epic stage fails of speakers who’ve lived to tell the tale. Join us as we dig into their nightmares and discover the killer tips that turned their terror into triumph.
Laura Reid: [00:00:00] Welcome to The Public Speaking Horror Show. I'm your host, Laura Reid, and I'm here to guide you through the spine-tingling, sweat-inducing, and occasionally hilarious world of public speaking. This is the show where we confront the terrifying moments that haunt speakers because, let's face it, we've all had them. But we also discover the lessons that they teach us. So grab your flashlight and your sense of humor because we're diving into the shadows of the stage. Remember, every speaking horror story has a silver lining if you dare to find it. Let's meet today's guest. Audrey Alice is a happily divorced mom of three who has spent her post-divorce years helping other divorced mothers go from surviving to absolutely thriving. She went through all the struggles so you don't have to and helps women see that divorce is not the end of their lives, but the beginning of the rest of their lives. When she isn't coaching badass women, she's also a yoga teacher and a Reiki practitioner and loves to spend time with her sons on the beach. Oh, and she recently added public speaker to her job titles. So welcome, Audrey.
Audrey Alice: [00:01:27] Woo hoo! Thank you for having me.
Laura Reid: [00:01:29] Thank you. So before we dive into Audrey's story, it's time for The Killer 13. This is where, Audrey, I hit you with 13 rapid fire questions designed to test your reflexes, uncover your quirks, and maybe even give you a fright. But don't overthink it. Just say what comes to mind, right. The Killer 13, let's go. All right. Number one. What were you most afraid of as a child?
Audrey Alice: [00:02:03] The dark.
Laura Reid: [00:02:04] The dark. What was the last song you danced to in your kitchen? Because I know you do.
Audrey Alice: [00:02:11] Oh, right before this call. Espresso. Sabrina Carpenter.
Laura Reid: [00:02:15] Love it. So good. You just got asked to speak, and you're jumping for joy. Who are you speaking to? And where is it?
Audrey Alice: [00:02:26] Oh, it's my TEDx talk, darling.
Laura Reid: [00:02:29] Yes, absolutely, I love it. I can't wait to see you on that stage. Yes. All right, number four, what's your go-to mantra that brings you confidence?
Audrey Alice: [00:02:39] Oh my goodness. I have so many. Right now, cross that bridge when you get to it.
Laura Reid: [00:02:47] I love that. Cross that bridge when you get to it.
Audrey Alice: [00:02:49] I tend to go into overwhelm. So it reminds me to focus on where I'm going.
Laura Reid: [00:02:54] Number five, what's the weirdest thing in your refrigerator.
Audrey Alice: [00:03:00] In my refrigerator? Oh. Actually, my son keeps his Invisalign in there.
Laura Reid: [00:03:07] Oh. Oh. I don't... no.
Audrey Alice: [00:03:10] They're in a case, but still.
Laura Reid: [00:03:14] Number six. Ghosts, vampires or zombies? Which would make the most challenging client.
Audrey Alice: [00:03:24] Oh, probably zombies, because they're all bloody and soulless.
Laura Reid: [00:03:33] Seven. What's scarier, spiders, heights or a random DM from a stranger?
Audrey Alice: [00:03:40] Text from my exes.
Laura Reid: [00:03:42] Text from your ex. That's a good one. Yeah. You can just smush a spider.
Audrey Alice: [00:03:48] Yeah, I still scream with spiders, but yeah. Text from an ex would be worse.
Laura Reid: [00:03:54] Number eight, if your microphone started whispering to you, what would it say?
Audrey Alice: [00:04:00] I love you.
Laura Reid: [00:04:02] Oh, I love it. It's so good. That's not scary at all.
Audrey Alice: [00:04:07] No. Not anymore.
Laura Reid: [00:04:09] That's good. Number nine. What's scarier? Silence from an audience or a room full of laughter at the wrong moment?
Audrey Alice: [00:04:21] Probably, I don't know. Probably laughter at the wrong moment. I don't know that that's a thing, though.
Laura Reid: [00:04:28] Um.
Audrey Alice: [00:04:28] Anymore?
Laura Reid: [00:04:30] Yeah. There is no wrong moments with laughter?
Audrey Alice: [00:04:33] I don't know. I've had a really awesome speaking coach, so I don't know that that would happen.
Laura Reid: [00:04:39] Oh. Thank you. All right. Uh, number ten, what was the last thing that made you jump?
Audrey Alice: [00:04:48] Probably the other morning when I was feeding the cats with my back to the kitchen, and my son came up to say good morning, but I didn't hear him. So I was like, whoa, he scared me. Not very scary. Just surprised, I guess. At the moment.
Laura Reid: [00:05:06] 11. Virtual or live?
Audrey Alice: [00:05:10] Virtual has opened so many doors but I do love to be there live with the humans. Yes.
Laura Reid: [00:05:20] Yeah. So which is it?
Audrey Alice: [00:05:22] So both. I want it all.
Laura Reid: [00:05:26] I'll give it to you. All right. Number 12. What's your secret weapon for staying calm under pressure?
Audrey Alice: [00:05:36] My breath. I can control my breath. I can't control what people do. But I can always control my breath. And I have learned to stay quiet, choose when I respond, and I don't, I don't react anymore. But, yeah, breathing for sure is a beautiful tool.
Laura Reid: [00:05:55] I love that. All right. Last one, number 13. If you could leave one haunting message for someone struggling after divorce, what would it be?
Audrey Alice: [00:06:07] Haunting. I don't know if it would have to be haunting. All my messages are awesome and inspiring. Obviously.
Laura Reid: [00:06:15] Haunting in the good way. It stays with you. It follows you around.
Audrey Alice: [00:06:18] So many, again. But the best is yet to come. This too shall pass. And divorce doesn't break you, it transforms you. It's the beginning of the rest of your life. I guess that's four. We'll stop there.
Laura Reid: [00:06:40] That was four haunting messages. But they're all so good. I love all of those so much. Yay! You survived The Killer 13. Clearly, you can think on your feet. So now it's time to dive into your story. So now every speaker has a moment that still makes their palms sweat maybe. It's time to go behind the curtain. This is where we pull back the layers and dive deep into the story that brought you, Audrey, here today. The moment that maybe you still look back on and you realize maybe you're scared in that moment. But it was pivotal in some way. So that said, what's your story?
Audrey Alice: [00:07:29] So good. So following up on what you just said, that piece, there's two parts. There's my own story of waking up one morning nearly eight years ago now and looking over to my then husband and knowing deep down that I couldn't do this anymore. I could not be not be in this marriage anymore. It was time. We had been together 21 years. We have three beautiful children together, three boys. And at the time, I had been a stay-at-home mom for I think it was about 7 years after a 20 year career in hotels. So part of the reason that I had waited, I guess, or that I was not certain in the fact I wanted to leave the marriage, was that I didn't know where to go or what to do or how to make, you know, how was I going to make money? Because I was a stay-at-home mom. But that moment I remember very clearly of just deciding this is it. I'm not doing another year of this, let alone 5 or 10. The next two years were, excuse my French, a complete shit show.
Laura Reid: [00:08:48] That's allowed on this podcast. That's okay.
Audrey Alice: [00:08:51] Say it like it is, baby. And I did what I now tell all my clients to not do. I went straight into another relationship. Barely had time to catch my breath. Did not see or completely ignored all the red flags and there were many. And they were very big and loud. And that relationship ended up being, basically, I went from bad to worse. Put it that way. And after about a little bit less than a year with that person, I caught myself again and decided I deserve better. Yeah. I guess after that, I became a coach. I became a health coach, quickly decided I didn't enjoy writing meal plans for people. And because I was in that age, I guess, that my friends were also starting to go through things in their marriages. People were coming to me a lot. I seemed to be attracting women going through divorce who had seen me do it and survive it. And so I was being asked for advice. I pivoted to becoming a divorce coach. And the rest is history. Now, the second part to this, the answer to your question, I guess, or the second part of my story, is that relating to speaking I have always literally shook in my boots when I was supposed to speak in front of an audience. And it came to meaning that I didn't speak up in friendships, relationships, jobs, things like that. And when I became a single woman, I decided to start a business. And parts of that business involved me talking about it. So I joined a business network group thanks to my darling best friend, Laura Reid, who did not give up on trying to have me join. And part of that experience is every week we meet and every week you have to do a little 45 to 60 second commercial.
Audrey Alice: [00:11:01] Well, the first time I joined, I started crying in the car. The first time I visited the group, just to see if it was a good fit. I thought there'd be 10 people and there were 50. And so as I parked the car and looked into the room, I started crying. I was like, I can't do this. I cannot stand up and speak to all these people. Speaking to one-on-one, I will talk your ears off. But to a group, it was very, although the human being is desperately in need of being seen, I really struggled to being looked at. Right? Like the difference, being in the spotlight, that was a big thing for me, would literally give me physical, like, physically, I would shake, I would sweat. My voice would shake and I was very close to pooping my pants. Thank God I never did do that, actually. But, so yeah. And then. And then I don't know if there were any more questions, but I kind of feel like I want to fast forward to this year. The beginning, well, actually last year now, 2024, at the beginning of the year, I decided I was going to embody the identity of a public speaker. I hired a speaking coach, Laura Reid. You might know her. She's awesome. And through working with her, with you, in September, I ended up speaking to an audience, a Zoom audience of 650 people. And so I went from crying in my car to speaking confidently to 650 people. And so that's the two parts of my story I guess I want to share for today.
Laura Reid: [00:12:47] Oh, wow. I mean, congratulations on that accomplishment. That's amazing to go from that. And, I mean, I was there that day that you pulled up. I didn't know you were crying in your car yet when you pulled up to, and you were scared of the 50 people and having to introduce yourself, talk a little bit about your business. So to go from that moment to speaking in front of 600 people and sharing your whole story in front of like a huge audience is huge. So first of all, tell us, like, tell me a little bit more about that day, like your little mini horror story of like pulling up, crying that day when you, you still were living in that kind of fear and that panic about speaking and what got you through that day and then what changed that bridged everything from that day to where you are now?
Audrey Alice: [00:13:43] Mhm. I get goosebumps just like thinking about it. But people have always thought I'm very confident and I mean I am, I embody this, I own it now. But behind the confidence wall was somebody who was very scared of making a mistake, saying the wrong thing, being judged. And scared of being seen fully. Because I am beautifully imperfect. I am exactly how I am. I can be, for some people, too much. I am excited and excitable, and I love life and I want to share it all with you. And sometimes it comes out that way and people are like, whoa! And I think I must have been, things must have happened in my childhood that I was judged or shushed. So now I'm an adult, and one room of, I remember my let's go back to my yoga teacher training. 5 people in the room, my teacher and me and 3 other women. And my heart is pounding. I'm sweating. Thank God I'm sitting down so I couldn't have fallen from fainting. But everybody is introducing themselves and my heart is literally, I thought it was going to jump out of my chest. Like just saying, hi, I'm Audrey, I live here and I'm here for this. That would, like, send me in a frenzy. So then I show up on that day to the Business Network meetup and the whole drive, which is a whole 7 minutes from my house to where we were meeting, the whole drive, I'm shaking. I pull up into the driveway and I see all the people and again I'm shaking. I'm, you know, sweating. I can already feel my chin trembling. You know how that goes when you want to cry. Oh my God. And I thought to myself, hell, no. Like hell no, I'm not doing that. Why would I? And then two things happened. One was, I don't want to let Laura down.
Laura Reid: [00:15:47] Because I would have dragged you from the car so we could do this the hard way or the easy way.
Audrey Alice: [00:15:51] Right? I knew if I didn't show up, I would have had to do it again another time, right? And two, I had decided that I really was ready and wanted to move my business from a side gig to a business. And I understood in that moment that this was the first step. This was the first rung of the ladder, me showing up that day and speaking for 60 seconds, which really is nothing, but it was massive for me. If I could do that, then I could keep going and become a business owner and make a living. So I actually have a video. I actually, I don't know what it was in me, I had the presence of mind, of taking my phone and recording myself, and I have a shaky video of myself saying, you know, I know I will look at this back on this in a few years, and I'll be so be so proud that I didn't drive back home. But here I am about to speak to 50 people and I'm like, all shaky in the video. And I watched it the other day. Brought tears to my eyes.
Laura Reid: [00:16:50] You did? You just watched it recently. What was it like to watch that back?
Audrey Alice: [00:16:55] Oh, it was so powerful to be the woman today that I wanted to be back then, to have bridged that. Did you say bridge earlier?
Laura Reid: [00:17:06] Yeah, I did, yeah. Yeah. And I mean, she's like, got you to where you are too, right? Like, without, it doesn't matter if your voice is shaking or not. You know, you're still speaking and you're still doing the thing. And sometimes you just have to start out that way with that shaky voice because it's new and you're pushing yourself through something that is scary. And you do have those fears. So what was the biggest lesson you learned after that day? Like from doing that, having that experience?
Audrey Alice: [00:17:37] Well, I didn't die and I didn't poop my pants. So bonus.
Laura Reid: [00:17:42] It would have been a better story maybe. But no. It's good.
Audrey Alice: [00:17:44] It would have maybe. But, you know, I decided that day in the car that this was going to be my day one I didn't want to keep, you know, thinking one day I wanted day one. So I did the thing, and I knew you were there. So I knew there would be one friendly face in the crowd. As it turned out, I knew at least 10 people in that room. We live in a small town on a small island, so that helped. Lessons learned. Well, I walked out of that room with 5 business cards from people who came up to me after I introduced myself and did my little 60 second thing, and who wanted to connect further and do business with me. And so the lesson was share about what you do if you want clients or referrals or connections. Otherwise, if you don't speak about it, no one will know that you're doing it.
Laura Reid: [00:18:37] Yeah, absolutely. I think if you're a business owner or entrepreneur listening, you know already you're also a public speaker, whether you want to be or not, whether you're reluctant or not, whether your voice shakes or not. If you want to grow your business, you have to be able to speak about it. And what have you learned, too? Because I know you're in that group for quite a while, giving those presentations. 60s. Did you learn anything about how to craft a message in that short time, or was it always hard for you to kind of clarify it, or you enjoyed that 60 second little story you can tell?
Audrey Alice: [00:19:14] Beautiful question. I think the hardest thing for me at the beginning was to convey the message in that short amount of time, even though the 60 seconds originally scared the bejesus out of me, I then got to the point that I was like, I can't say everything I want to say in 60 seconds. Like, there's no way. But in 60 seconds you can say something that will land with somebody. And so what I learned was cut the shit and get straight to the chase. Like, don't, unless, you know, unless somehow it's part of your script or you have to or that's whatever, you don't have to spend 10 seconds, 20 seconds saying, hi, I'm Audrey, I'm a yoga teacher. Just get to the point. Breathe. Speak slow. Take your time. But not too long. But, yeah, get to the point. Like, don't waste time.
Laura Reid: [00:20:11] That's such good advice. Yeah, because there's not time to ramble. There's not time for everything. So it kind of forces you. I think it's such a good exercise because it forces you to get clear on what is the message I really want to share, and that every second counts. Absolutely. So I mean, something I encourage people to do is not start with, like you just said, don't start with introducing yourself because it's kind of wasting some of those seconds, especially those first crucial three seconds where you want to draw everybody in and alert them that you're worth listening to. And they should, you know, like there's going to be some kind of impact there with what you're saying.
Audrey Alice: [00:20:52] Definitely. And through the, you know, meeting week after week after week for two years, I've, now I'm listening to other business owners who are doing their presentation. And every time I hear, you know, hello, I'm, you know, whatever Alex Smith and I'm this and that and I work from home and I'm like, that's 30s you could have said something that might make you a sale and you just wasted that time. But. And no judgment, really just observation and just the realization that I am so grateful that I learned to not do that and really make the most of the time I have to share my message.
Laura Reid: [00:21:31] Yeah. And here's the thing. Every time you show up and you model that you might be changing the way someone does it next time because you know it hits differently. And sometimes people take notice of that and they're going to try it out then too. So did you ever get like, what's some of the feedback that you remember? Like, were there any 60 seconds that really landed with people or a day that you told you got to share a longer presentation that you just, you remember, like it did make an impact and someone came up and shared with you.
Audrey Alice: [00:22:01] The first time, so every few weeks or months, each member of that business network group has the opportunity to do a longer presentation. And so the first time I did mine, that was really impactful. I had 8 minutes. And from thinking, I can't say all I want to say in 60 seconds to having 8 minutes, I was like, how am I going to fill that? Right? And it was like, so fascinating to be like, oh, not enough time. Whoa! Too much time. It's like...
Laura Reid: [00:22:34] It's like a luxury, but scary too.
Audrey Alice: [00:22:37] Yes. So I worked with my coach again. You. And, what happened? So that particular presentation was on Zoom, and what happened was I had to, thank goodness I had prepared for that. Don't ever wing it unless you've been doing it for 20 years and you have your speech like, you can pull it out of your butthole, but don't wing it. Prepare for it. Thank goodness I'd done that because the chat went nuts. The chat went absolutely crazy. If you work with Zoom, you know how people put their comments and then it's just like...
Laura Reid: [00:23:17] Scrolling. Yeah.
Audrey Alice: [00:23:18] Yeah. So I was doing my speech and I was basically telling my story about, you know, why and how I'd become a divorce coach. And people who were happily married were telling me, you know, I've got tears in my eyes. People who had just been through a breakup were telling me, wow, Audrey, that's amazing. Like, the feedback was so powerful that it cemented in me the importance of sharing our stories. I think her name is Ann Voskamp, but the saying goes, shame dies when you tell your story in a safe space. Something like that. And so sharing my story and that feedback reminded me that it's important because someone out there has a similar story and they think they're alone. They don't know where to turn for support. They hold on to shame for going through whatever they're going through, and they don't, because of the shame, they're not reaching out for help or for support or for companionship or whatever it is. And so that was a really, it was I guess it was a reminder but at the time it was more of an awakening, I guess, for lack of a better word. And just like, wow. This is why I do what I do, and this is why I will not stop sharing my story.
Laura Reid: [00:24:39] An awakening. I love that so much, because it sounds like that was a moment, too, when you realized your story had become bigger than you and that it wasn't really about you anymore, and your fear of judgment and all the things that had been maybe holding you back. Because now it's like it's changing other people's lives, changing their mindset, how they see divorce. And they're connecting emotionally to your story, whether they're happily married or, you know, moved on or not. Right? But there is someone out there too, that they need to hear that story. Right. It's going to be their survival guide and they need, they have shame that they need to let go of and be given permission to share their story. I love that so much.
Audrey Alice: [00:25:21] For sure. And you know, in the US, I mean, we're talking about divorce because this is what I do. But every speaker has their own story. But in my instance, 50% of marriages in the US end in divorce. So if you're happily married, congratulations. I'm so happy for you. And you know someone who is going through or has gone through divorce. So my story might help you support your friend. You know, like the ripple effect where you were talking about the story being bigger than me, that was really powerful to understand that the ripple effect, the telling my story has had has been powerful and just yeah, it keeps reminding me over and over again, day after day, that I will not stop telling it because someone out there needs me to say it and they need to hear it. However it gets to them. If it's directly from me or for a message I share, or from a friend sharing my soon to be podcast episode. Yeah, we launch at the end of the month. So yeah, and I remember, you know, some things that a coach had said to me a long time ago before I was in this material and before I really understood, but I remember hearing her say, when you don't share your story, you are depriving somebody from your medicine. How dare you? And that how dare you was like, excuse me? What? And then it was like, oh, I am stopping somebody from healing faster or now or whatever, right? So yeah, the story is always bigger than just the person saying it.
Laura Reid: [00:26:54] And I'm seeing like, this interesting timeline for you too, of like joining the networking group that forced you to kind of really get in touch with what you do and how what you're most aligned to, you know, how you're most aligned to serve in this world, right? And once you got in touch with that and then got to speak about it and then share your story about why, you know, why you're meant to do this work, this important work, you know, then things started to change and, you know, you added public speaker too, as one of your titles, because now you've like, you've got it, you've got the story, you've got why you do it, you got to practice that. And so tell me more about, you know, again, like that bridge as a metaphor to, you know, that moment to then speaking in front of 600 people or so. And what shifted in that experience? Was your chin still trembling, and, you know, I mean, you can still be scared and do it anyway. But was there a different, you know, did it land differently for you?
Audrey Alice: [00:27:55] So that particular talk was, I was asked by my own coach to share a piece of my story in one of her events. And that happened in a very difficult and vulnerable time. So at the beginning of this, well, last year now, at the beginning of 2024, my boys' father became very ill and sadly passed away. And in the next few months, as I was going deeply within and using all my tools to move through that and hold my children through their healing, somehow I ended the year 5 times-ing my business.
Laura Reid: [00:28:42] Wow. Congratulations.
Audrey Alice: [00:28:44] Thank you. So I was talking about the unshakable faith. The importance of taking time to heal and the importance to continue to share my story. Because, again, people out there are going through similar experiences, and they need me to share how I'm surviving this. And they're afterwards thriving so that they can continue their healing. The work of public speakers is, I find, often linked to their own stories. Right? You're a speaker because you were a little girl with a stutter who could barely say her name as well, right? So, I mean, the reason we speak is because we've overcome something.
Audrey Alice: [00:29:37] And when we overcome and then we speak about it, we help others do the same. It's so powerful. And the story is always shifting and changing and expanding and growing and more comes out of this. Yeah. And this year I am also, from somebody crying in the car, not wanting to speak to 50 people, by the way, this talk, 650 people on Zoom, that was live. So another maybe 3+ thousand people have watched the replay, so I don't even know how many people have seen that piece since then. But now I continue to walk along that bridge and create the bridge as I go, as I'm launching my own podcast at the end of the month. And we are, I have a publisher that we are co-editing and co-creating a book together with seven other women. So we are talking about divorce and how to thrive after divorce. So I'm continuing to tell my story in different formats, on different stages, so to speak. Be it in podcast or, you know, podcast interviews on other people's podcasts or writing a book. Yeah. I'll never stop talking about that, you know.
Laura Reid: [00:30:52] I love that. I feel like it does date back so much to you just owning your story. And then that enabled you to move forward in all these different ways. And who knows what else is out there, right? Stages that are waiting. Now you mentioned Ted Talk. So like what draws you to that particular format and that stage? And tell us more about what you're thinking for that.
Audrey Alice: [00:31:15] Oh, so Ted talks are kind of an invite-only thing. They are also a specific time and a specific format. So it's going to be beautifully enriching to experience that. I love that I'll get the opportunity to really narrow, that's another stage that it's like, don't waste time with fluff. You want to be straight on it. Quite honestly, between you and I and all the listeners, I would, I can't wait to be able to say I've done a Ted Talk. You know, it's kind of cool. I've ticked that box. And I know it's going to get me out of my comfort zone because I am not doing as many live audience speaks, speeches or speaking events as I am doing online. Sometimes online can feel a little safer because people are muted and, you know, you might not see whose, we'll record this and then I don't know who's listening and what happens when they listen, right? But, Ted, you do have the audience in the studio as they record and listen to you. So that's a whole nother level. And, yeah, experience really.
Laura Reid: [00:32:35] I'm so excited for that for you. And yeah, there's not going to be any zombies or vampires or ghosts in the audience, so it won't be that scary. Well, Audrey, as we wrap things up, here's my final question for you. So imagine there's someone pulling up to speak at an event, just like you were, right, to the 50 people. And they're pulling up and they see a bunch of people, you know, in the room and other people pulling up, and they realize it's probably more people than they expected, and they start crying, and they're feeling so much fear and almost wanting to put that car into reverse and just drive away. What's your message for that person?
Audrey Alice: [00:33:20] Don't drive away, first off. You can do it. You are stronger than you think and braver than you know. And really, the biggest message is what you say in there could save somebody's life.
Laura Reid: [00:33:40] Mhm, that's huge.
Audrey Alice: [00:33:41] And maybe it sounds a little bit dramatic, but we don't know what people are going through at any given time. We don't know how much of a mask or a facade they're putting when they walk in through a room. So what you have to say very well could save somebody's life. So go in there, pull your big girl panties up, and give that talk.
Laura Reid: [00:34:05] You heard her. Don't drive away. You know, just go in. And what's the worst that can happen, really? You know. Well, there's some bad things that can happen. But mostly, you know, I find that if my inner critic starts, you know, saying, oh, what if you forget your words? What if this happens or that happens? It's like, you know what? Like no one's going to die. It's, I'm just, I'm just going to give my pitch or I'm just going to do this interview or, you know, whatever it is. And, you know, the big scheme of things, it's all going to work out. It's all going to be okay. Right? But you could literally change someone's life and save their life. I love that so much. So before we say goodbye, you told us a little bit, but tell us more about what you're working on, your podcast that's coming up and where our audience can find you.
Audrey Alice: [00:34:51] So I have a website, IAmAudreyAlice.com with all the info on there. I am very active on Instagram. My handle is @IAmAudreyAlice. Don't come find me on Facebook, I just do family on there. Instagram is my jam. My podcast is called Divorced AF and we will be talking about not just surviving divorce, but thriving after it. And, yeah, I coach women in their post-divorce season. I don't necessarily walk you through the divorce itself. I like for you to have figured out who gets the dog, the cat, the kids custody schedule, and then you come find me, and then we thrive together.
Laura Reid: [00:35:39] Love it. Well, you heard her. Like, check out her website. It's really beautiful. And you can learn more about Audrey there. And she's so good on Instagram. I'm always admiring everything that you post. So creative and funny and impactful. So please follow her there. And I can't wait to to watch all your podcast episodes. Divorced AF. I can't wait. So Audrey, thank you so much for being a guest and joining me on The Public Speaking Horror Show. Your story really proves that some of the scariest moments on stage can actually, they can help us grow. You know, whether that stage is in a room of 50 people or virtually, you know, wherever it is, it will help you grow. Right? And whatever does feel like a mistake to you in the time, like we learn so much from it, right? So even those moments like to be grateful for I think is is a good way to see it. And if you enjoyed today's episode, be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, basically all the places. My book of the same name is now available, by the way, on Audible as well as Amazon, Barnes and Noble online. And if you happen to be on the Big Island of Hawaii at Kona Stories. Shout out to Kona Stories bookstore. All right, that's all my plugging. Until next time remember, the stage may be scary, but it's also the place where the magic happens. So keep slaying my friends. Aloha. Bye.