Stopping Socialism

Donald Kendal joined The Shaun Thompson Show to talk about the anti-humanist strain of thought that is pervasive in the modern environmentalist movement. Are climate alarmists motivated by a desire to avert global warming or are they more concerned with unconstrained population growth and human progress?

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Donald Kendal
Donald Kendal hosts episodes of Stopping Socialism along with weekly releases of the In The Tank podcast.

What is Stopping Socialism?

Discussions on how to save the United States from the scourge of socialism, presented by The Heartland Institute.

Shaun Thompson:

This is the Heartland Daily Podcast.

Speaker 2:

From the streets of Melrose Park to the trading floor of the Merck, he's fought for every dollar he's ever earned. And now with personal liberty and our system of capitalism under assault in America, He's here to seize back our rights from the government with a cigar in 1 hand and a copy of the declaration of independence in the other. He's Sean Thompson, and this is the Sean Thompson Show.

Shaun Thompson:

I've been having my next guest on for more than a couple of years now. And every time I have him on, I am reminded of how often I watch stopping socialism TV. Aside from his, research work with socialism research center, he's a has been the contributor of Glenn Beck on a multitude of books from arguing with socialist to the great reset, Joe Biden and the rise of 21st century fascism. But this is what he does. He works tirelessly to expose not just the shortsightedness of socialism, but the reality of what happens when you follow this path of destruction, of Marxism, communism, socialism, whatever spin you wanna put on it.

Shaun Thompson:

It's all about control and government supremacy. Donald Kendall, how are you?

Donald Kendal:

You know, I am doing wonderful. Although, I do recall I don't know if it was a month ago or a couple of months ago when I was on, on with you. We had a bet. You recall this. This was about who is actually gonna be on the ballots come November Yeah.

Donald Kendal:

Whether it was gonna be Trump and Biden. And I picked that they were gonna remain on the ballot, but after last night's debate, not medium at least 1 of them.

Shaun Thompson:

Medium rare with a side of asparagus and garlic mashed. Alright? That's what I like. And I won't do anything but the maybe the New York strip. In the meantime, that's easy pickings because Joe Biden has been since the eighties what you saw last night.

Shaun Thompson:

A moron who, exists on fraud, lies, and really more of an actor than Robert De Niro ever dreamt of being, although they both play the same character constantly. But that's really what revealed last night. And the other thing that we need to people to understand is the Leviathan that he represents really doesn't like humanity too much, do they?

Donald Kendal:

They do not. And that is a perfect segue to talk about, this anti humanism strain that is just pervasive throughout the modern environmentalist movement. So just, just last week, I did a whole podcast where I just decided, you know, I'm gonna, like, go down this rabbit hole of antihumanism and see how much of it is really just fluff and how much of it is is is true and and, you know, views that are held by your kind of whether it's Al Gore, Greta Thunberg or anything like that. And what I found was pretty astonishing. So just baseline.

Donald Kendal:

I mean, the anti humanist movement, they they do have some, like, nuanced positions on stuff. But what are their kind of top line beliefs? Is this rejection of the idea that humans are inherently superior to any other forms of life. So this is this is kind of, like, the basic backbone of it, and it basically goes along with this idea that if humans are unconstrained, they are just gonna move, like a cancer across the earth. And as the population grows, they'll cut down more trees, they'll build more buildings, and that's gonna, like, drive out all of the other animals and other, you know, species that have just as much a right to life as humanity.

Shaun Thompson:

Donald, I was so fortunate to to be exposed to this kind of ideology decades ago when I was fairly young. And as I was listening to these these fraud speak was amazing to me, how full of hate and contempt they were. And yet, they were always advocating that phony virtue of altruism, where if we only got rid of these rats, the rest of us could all live peacefully and in harmony. That's a part of their swindle too, isn't it?

Donald Kendal:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And what's what's really troubling about this is that they're using climate change as an excuse to put up roadblocks in front of they're just the progress and development and flourish meant of humanity.

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And,

Donald Kendal:

and it's a great it's a great roadblock. Like, it makes all the sense in the world. If we're gonna use these reliable energy sources, it's gonna pollute the world. The temperature is gonna increase, and we're all gonna fry to death, on some global warmed planet or something like that.

Shaun Thompson:

The first guy that really implemented it out out loud and had a national platform was Adolf Hitler. He felt the same way. And his target was the Jew and the capitalist and the nonconformist. It's really the same thing under this new forthright. So when you dove into it, I'm hoping you went back to the early, 19th, the early part of 19th century, because that's when that ideology really started to rear its ugly head.

Shaun Thompson:

And the Eugenists and the rest of it all came on, and they were gonna mitigate things. But they've produced some of the platforms of the of the things that government is now, you know, paying for, like planned parenthood. Margaret Sanger, she was another 1 of these. Eugenicists that, you know, hated. She was a rabid racist, and she created this so that the black population would never be more than 12.

Shaun Thompson:

And that was what? In in in 1930 something, 1940 something. And look at, what's the black population?

Donald Kendal:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Then that gets into social engineering, which is also another whole aspect of the anti humanist, mindset. But the but 1 of the most eye opening things

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to me and this was this was research that actually

Donald Kendal:

went back several years ago when I was doing it.

Shaun Thompson:

If you say Gates,

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you owe

Shaun Thompson:

me dinner. I mean, you owe me dessert too. Because if you say Gates and you talk about Bill's father, now we're now we're on to something because that's the that's where it leads, isn't it? But go ahead.

Donald Kendal:

Well, there was a there was a story back in the late eighties of, 2 scientists. I forget what university they were doing research for. But they thought that they stumbled upon, the key to unlocking the, cold fusion. So they're they thought they were, oh, man. We figured it out.

Donald Kendal:

We're gonna be able to produce this inexpensive, inexhaustible energy. It's clean. It's gonna be a virtually free. This is gonna be a new golden age for humanity. And you would think, like, oh, that sounds fantastic.

Donald Kendal:

Now that we can use as much energy as we possibly want, pursuing all of these great things and all of that, we don't have to worry about the rivers being polluted or, you know, extra C02 in the atmosphere or something like that. And this is where the environmentalists really showed their true colors because that wasn't their reaction. Their reaction was just like Jeremy Ryskin, who was quoted by the New York, the, Los Angeles Times saying that it's the worst thing that could have happened to our planet. And he's got other people talking about I think it was Paul Ehrlich saying that,

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the

Donald Kendal:

idea of free energy, free limitless energy would be like giving an idiot child a machine gun. These are actual quotes from these notable environmentalists at the time because the understanding was that a, a restriction like, on reliable energy that's that's kinda put forth by everyone that's championing this climate alarmist, narrative, that is what is going to stop this human growth and development. So without that without that fear that we're polluting the planet by producing this energy, there's nothing gonna be stopping this. So this is the anti humanist mindset that underlies all of this climate change narrative. And the further you look into it, the the deeper that rabbit hole, rabbit hole goes.

Donald Kendal:

And this I just wanna give you 1 more example because this 1 to me was just mind blowing. Back in, like, 2016 or something, I was trying to figure out what the Sierra Club's, stance was on nuclear power. And it said this was me reading right off of their website. They've changed it since. But reading right off their website back in 2015, it says, opposes the licensing, construction, and operation of new nuclear reactors utilizing fission process, pending development of adequate national and global policies to curb energy overuse and unnecessary economic growth.

Donald Kendal:

Can you believe those words were strung together? That's only words that could be strung together in that order by an anti humanist mindset, unnecessary economic growth. Can you imagine that?

Shaun Thompson:

Yes. I do. Because I've III I've seen this, and this is in the policies of our government. This is in the bureaucracies that control and and and really perpetrate economic suicide intentionally because they have a contempt for their fellow man. And they do not like our specific country, which is why they work tirelessly to hamstring us.

Shaun Thompson:

But I am celebrating for these very reasons what the Supreme Court just did today, which was to defeat the the totalitarian, Chevron deference. I think this is huge. And if people understand it, they'll understand. And what has to happen is, for some reason, it it it's a cult, the eco Nazi movement. It's a cult, and they all buy the same lies.

Shaun Thompson:

And the entire philosophy is based on lies. It is reminiscent of the Third Reich. This is exactly what they did. And they built this kind of survival because you had to better society by getting rid of the people who didn't wanna be part of the collective. You know, this all plays into the ultimate seam theme of of socialism or government supremacy as I refer to it.

Shaun Thompson:

And that is what people need to understand. In fact, for some reason, gets lost in the argument. Is it because the other side has a has a stake in this ideology too? And when that you look at this, I've gone down this hole too. It's amazing how many Republicans, who I like to call Fabians, also believe in this.

Shaun Thompson:

So to pretend this is exclusive on the Democrat side, you're wrong because there's a big part of the Republican party that doesn't wanna see any population growth either. Right?

Donald Kendal:

Well yeah. And you've got, you know, like con men, like, Joe Biden on stage, kind of giving the modern interpretation of what we need to do to fight climate change and this idea that if we just tax the rich a little bit more, then climate change isn't gonna be a thing. And then the media just kind of goes along with it, and they sell all of these, certain stories without really digging into the, into the substance and see where, like, it logically the it logically the logical conclusion of all of these things. And another great example of this was, pre COVID. This is, like, late 2019.

Donald Kendal:

There was a whole rash of stories and headlines going around talking about 10, 000 scientists have signed on to this thing talking about how climate change is a global emergency and how we have to do something to fight climate change. That was the headline. That was pretty much the extent of the stories if you actually read the stories. But what's really interesting is if you were to actually read the letter that all of these scientists signed on to, there is some pretty bone chilling language in there, not Yes. Beyond far beyond the idea of just reducing our, use of reliable energy.

Donald Kendal:

But it says here under a category called population, it says still increasing by roughly 80, 000, 000 people per year or more than 200, 000 per day. The world population must be stabilized and ideally gradually reduced within a framework that ensures social integrity. So that that big thing that all these scientists agree. Climate change, big emergency. It's got population control language in the letter, but the media won't won't cover that, of course.

Shaun Thompson:

Well, what's astonishing to me is how much money flows into these organizations. And when you look at the way in which they all tie back to each other, Bill Gates senior has been somebody who has been advocating for population control for many years. He's an American attorney. He he calls himself a philanthropist. He's the architect really of the Gates Foundation and the tax avoidance scheme where they pretend to give money away.

Shaun Thompson:

In the meantime, they keep total control of it. And it's amazing for how many years at 94 years old this rat bastard is still or or he was promoting up until his death recently. I think he just died. It was promoting all kinds of population control. And if you look at the mantra and where the money goes into these legacy foundations that were started 40, 35, 55 years ago, it's always about this this undercurrent of we are too populated.

Shaun Thompson:

And for some reason, what gets lost in this is you could take everybody in the planet, stick them in Texas, and have the density of Manhattan. Why are people afraid to take on this argument? Why do they buy the lie of the of the of the controller gark that wants to control society? I don't understand why we have such a timid pushback against these closed minded fascists.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. No. It's it's a great question. I think just because so many of these we we live in like a sound bite culture. Right?

Donald Kendal:

Where, you know, even if you turn on Fox News or go through social media or something, some of the segments on Fox News are 3 minutes long. Right? The the the things that are being spread on social media are now like less than a minute. So you need to get these points across. You don't have time to get in-depth in all of these things.

Donald Kendal:

So when you hear the ideas of climate change, it's 2 or 3 sentences and we move on. So I think that most people, the the vast majority of the people, aren't aren't, digging into these rabbit holes like like I am or like you are. And then they just hear this kind of, like, this rhetoric kind of flow across them, and they move along with their day. So I think that it kinda just comes from a, just kind of an a not knowing, sort of thing. But, yeah, once you do the research, I mean, it's pretty astonishing.

Donald Kendal:

And you mentioned Bill Gates. You know, I come on I come on your show all the time talking about Klaus Schwab and World Economic Forum. And their mindset with all of this stuff is another, layer of this anti humanist agenda, which is this idea that there is, that the idea of free will is overstated. This stated. This this is a anti humanist perspective.

Donald Kendal:

And because of that, people people's actions, they really don't have full control over that. It's all just because of cultural, stimulus and all of that sort of stuff that's causing people to act this way. So what that mindset leads to is that social engineering that we were just talking about. That's trying to convince people or or pressure them without the use of force to act the ways that you want to. See, that's like the social credit scores.

Donald Kendal:

That's the ESG that I've come on here and talked about. That's the 15 minute cities. That's CBDCs. All of this is downstream from an anti humanist mindset.

Shaun Thompson:

Donald, it's so fascinating because, the way in which you can always tell if something is a lie or is the truth is if the amount of actual data that's been done in the exploration of the opposite theory. Right? Because what we have is this fascism, this control through a hypothesis of frauded and cooked data. And the fact of the matter is even if people disagree with that statement that I just said, the data you're relying on has been scientifically engineered to give you the results that the government wants. The government data is bought and paid for to give the government control over every aspect of life.

Shaun Thompson:

But what's unarguable, even if you disagree with that, you are living on a planet that is arguably 1, 000, 000, 000 of years old. Billions. Any data that we have has only been collected since 18/80. That is the kind of lack of information, lack of substance that I cannot believe so many people. The vault that really turn into Harry Krishna's start banging a frackin tambourine.

Shaun Thompson:

I mean, that would be the first thing when you're looking into this as a young mind or somebody who just oh, is is it really gonna be 1.5 degrees? You heard that dimwit and diapers babble it yesterday in 1 of his streaming sentences. Is it really 1 point well, how do you get to that? How do you get to it? Well, where's the data?

Shaun Thompson:

Well, here it is. Well, it looks like it only goes back to 18/80. Where's the other 1000 years? Because I just saw in the news, they told me it's the warmest summer in Florida in 500 to a 1000 years. Well, where's the data?

Shaun Thompson:

Mhmm. Well, we don't have any. For sure. I mean, you gotta be out of your mind. You couldn't sell a car in my neighborhood with this kind of bull dong.

Shaun Thompson:

Yet here we are, 1, 000, 000, 000, 000 of dollars controlling industries. People lose their jobs. People can't get water. They're blowing up dams. I mean, it's insanity, isn't it?

Shaun Thompson:

Mhmm.

Donald Kendal:

Oh, yeah. It absolutely is. And and I'll and I'll be a little sympathetic to some people who are just kind of, like, ignorant of the situation. They look into it and they think that, oh, yeah. You know, unchecked, like, human population, what were we gonna live in?

Donald Kendal:

1 giant city or something like that in the future? But I am absolutely a humanist, and I'm and I'm an optimist when it comes to that. And there's this concept called the Kuznets curve, which is basically as the population grows with more prosperity, they intuitively take better, care of their environment around them. And it makes sense once you think about it because if you're struggling to get food on the table, you don't necessarily care whether or not you're pouring the motor oil in the in the grass in the backyard. You're just worried about making sure your kids can eat.

Donald Kendal:

But once you have a level of prosperity, you do want nice parks. You do wanna make sure that there's clean air and great water and all of that because that survival, that bare subsistence is already taken care of. So that comes comes naturally with a prospering nation. That comes naturally with, free markets and capitalism and all of that. Yeah.

Donald Kendal:

But you just have to think about it a

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little bit.

Donald Kendal:

Well, it's it's it's

Shaun Thompson:

also such a self defeatist, outcome and conclusion that people have. So in the very short you tell somebody a 100 years ago, explain to them what air conditioning is. Go back. Just go back. A 100 year we've got this air what?

Shaun Thompson:

You've got what? Air conditioning. Really? You mean to tell me I don't have to I don't have to suffer? I can go on it.

Shaun Thompson:

Yes. And we got heat. Heat. You've got heat. I mean, think about this.

Shaun Thompson:

And yet all of the new answers are to deny the human being and to subject himself to the climates that have killed people for 1, 000 and 1000000 of years to go back and revert back into the stone age rather than say, boy, if the temperature goes up, we got air conditioning. Look at you. It's gonna be great. We can handle anything. We're human beings, and we kick nature's ass.

Shaun Thompson:

And we can clean the rivers and the oceans. We can do it all. Instead of that, it's no. Don't give that kid a plastic bottle and turn the heat up. What?

Shaun Thompson:

Or turn the heat down when it's cold and turn the air conditioning up when it's hot. That's how you can see the flaw and the self hatred that is very easily tapped to versus the Yeah. I don't give a rip what it is outside. I'll turn the fricking air on, morons.

Donald Kendal:

Yeah. Do you know who's gonna learn that lesson, real quick? Is all of our Olympic athletes are gonna be going to Paris, here pretty soon because, did you hear about that story that France wants to not allow air conditioning for, like, this idea of virtue signaling towards being more green and environmentally conscious? I don't know how those athletes those Olympic athletes, muscles are gonna do when they do their workouts and all of that and then go back to rest in their 80 5, 90 degree,

Shaun Thompson:

I understand. Stupid does, and only the stupid should participate in that nonsense anyway. That whole thing, the Olympics, come on. We've got so so many juice up athletes. Just release them free on whole society.

Shaun Thompson:

We'll get rid of soccer. It'll be fantastic.

Donald Kendal:

Sounds good.

Shaun Thompson:

You you kidding me? You let you let the the Raiders loose on a soccer field. Oh, look at you. We'll be listening to that nonsense. Those guys will be carted off in an ambulance.

Shaun Thompson:

That's what I need. In the meantime, whenever I wanna really beat an argument of stupid socialism, I go to Donald Kendall stops or socialism research center, stopping socialism TV. I'm not kidding you on your YouTube channel because I watch it a lot. Every time I log on, boing, there you are. And I love your guests.

Shaun Thompson:

Tell them I love it. I really enjoy the show. It's very well done. I really appreciate the work you do and the data you expose. Thank you very much, Donald Kendall.

Donald Kendal:

Thank you for having me on.