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(upbeat music)
Pit of despair?
And we're back.
Oreo ice cream is very hard to scoop.
The progressive commercials.
Are us.
It's like what we do now.
Right?
So there. The strategically, nope, nope.
Nope.
The strategically involved.
Parenting teenagers
is next stinking level.
It is.
And I'm embarrassing.
My pants are worn too high.
I wear white tennies everywhere.
With black socks.
Yeah.
You actually don't do any of those
just for the record.
But I'm gonna ask for
all that for Christmas.
Can I do a really quick I'm peeved?
Yeah, mine's stupid people.
Go ahead, yours.
Mine is too.
(imitates
That's a good one, honey.
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English Podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids
and growing careers,
keeping life together in
the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up because we're all
in this crazy journey together.
Boo.
Boo who?
Do that for me or do
that for other people?
I don't know.
(laughs)
You always have like a fun little like,
you do a play off of my like audio intro.
That nobody actually hears.
Do you want them to hear that?
I'll put that one on there.
No, you don't have to.
That's what I was saying.
Who do you do that for?
Me or do you do it for the audience?
Just in case it like
kicks it off in a good way.
Yeah.
I mean, cause it's never the same thing.
So I always try something different.
But what I say is always the same thing.
Right.
So that's how we should start it off
every time is your real quick.
My random, boo who?
Or I don't know.
It's different every time.
Yeah.
You guys miss so much good stuff
that's on the cutting room floor.
(squeaking) Yeah, we could, hours, hours of tape.
That's right.
Well, welcome back episode 58.
58.
58, yeah.
We should be on like
63, but we've been lazy.
We've been bad.
Am I lazy?
You mean we just haven't
been able to find a minute?
You've been too busy to get in this room.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're getting,
this room's getting dusty
cause we're not in here anymore.
Ironically, sorry.
Choked on my own.
You okay?
It's been a long couple of weeks.
Ironically, we do have dusty,
dust drags in here that we
could clean things off with.
Yeah.
All right, we'll start back over.
That's not award
winning podcast material.
Oh, if I was Jason
Bateman, it would have been.
And we're back.
(laughing) All right, so episode 58, we, I mean,
what I'm finding hard right now is,
time aside, right?
We like doing this, it's fun.
The people that watch it,
enjoy it, which is great.
The hard part for me right now is,
so much happens in like two weeks.
Yeah. When we went three weeks one time.
So much happens that I
don't know what to talk about
because I already forgot half of it.
Right, right.
And the other half of it, I'm like,
"Oh gosh, you gotta talk about this,
we gotta talk about that."
Yeah.
Whereas on a weekly basis,
when we're good about
it doing a weekly basis,
it's like, I kind of know
what happened that week.
It's just kind of a
nice little rhythm there.
But it's a lot, it's just a lot to do.
When we have all this time.
Yeah, all this extra time.
I mean.
Now if you had a production
crew, it'd be okay probably.
You know, can we employ child labor?
I know we've tried.
We have three children.
I know, and we've tried
to employ their labor.
And their labor is worthless, so no.
We'd have to hire some other children.
Right?
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, our oldest Mike
had a job this summer.
He's talking about doing
it, and I think he should.
I think he should.
And he wants to, which is good,
because he's of age
where now he can work.
Right, right.
So that's good.
Like, I worked?
I mean, what was your
favorite high school job?
Hmm, well, in high school,
I only had one job, I think.
I think I worked at
around the corner restaurant
the whole time I was in high school.
It was after high school
when my life spiraled down
into the negative, you know, the--
Pit of despair?
Pit of despair is a great way.
The P-I-P-O-D, the pod.
When I spiraled into the pod,
pit of despair, that's
when I had a lot of jobs.
I had a lot of jobs
during that tough time of life.
But I think I held down just
the one job in high school,
and that was around the corner.
Around the corner?
Yeah, I started off
washing dishes in the back room,
and then I made it up to cook.
In fact, I was, well,
the head cook on the grill,
the flat grill, all that kind of stuff.
Wow.
Yeah, big time.
I mean, to be the head cook, that's like,
isn't that a position of
esteem in a restaurant?
Well, they did refer to me as Chef Sean.
They did?
Oh, God, no.
I wore a white shirt and a white hat.
It was incredible, I was really good.
I missed my calling.
Then the P-O-D.
(laughing)
Then the P-O-D.
I'm gonna start calling you Chef Sean,
although that's really hard to say.
Yeah, it is a little bit.
A little bit harder.
In a week, I'll have a
surprise for you on that note.
But right back at you,
what was your favorite?
Well, I don't know.
I had two high school jobs,
and I really liked both of them.
I worked at Scoop's ice cream store.
That's why your right form
is bigger than your left.
Exactly.
I mean, I'm still way
stronger on my right than my left.
I'm telling you, Oreo ice
cream is very hard to scoop.
Anyway, and I would
actually cut my knuckles on it.
I'd have to put Band-Aids on
because when you're scooping the cookies
that are poking out with--
So you served bloody
high cream cones to people?
No, no, no.
There's a possibility
though that you did?
No.
I was always very cautious.
I think there might be.
I was very cautious.
So you have to be like, "Oh, I'm sorry.
"I've just lacerated
my knuckle on an Oreo."
Oh no, no, no, no.
"I need to go wash my hands.
"I need to trash this Oreo tub now
"and bring in a new one."
I would definitely throw it away
if I knew I hit my knuckle, but yeah.
I was in the era of AIDS too,
so I really was scared of blood.
Yeah, from a 14-year-old girl.
No, I promise I did not
serve anything with blood on it.
I was very conscious of it, but yeah,
Oreo ice cream, very hard.
Then if someone was like,
"Oh, I have an Oreo shake,"
and you're like--
Even to this day, shakes are my favorite.
I love ice cream, but
shakes are my favorite.
And I feel bad ordering shakes
because there's just so many steps to it.
Not only do you have to
lacerate your knuckles
by getting out the chocolate ice cream,
which they probably just
leave bloody after that.
They have to put it into the,
now they gotta put it into,
there's a whole other steps.
There's multiple steps to it.
It's not just scoop and plop.
Well, and it's not one scoop.
An average shake was four or five scoops,
depending on the size that they got.
But I mean, even a small
shake is four scoops of ice cream
instead of even a double scoop,
which is a massive ice cream cone.
We could have a whole
episode based on ice cream,
but you worked at
scoops, you served people
bloody ice cream.
What was the second one?
I worked at The Gap.
The Gap.
Gap Kids, actually.
I knew that.
I just didn't realize
it was in high school.
Yeah, Gap Kids.
Gap Kids.
Oh, funny.
And I've--
So were you a personal shopper?
Were you able to take the
kids around like Pretty Woman
and you would bring them
clothes in the dressing room
and dress them up?
No, no.
Like rich kids?
No, uh-uh, uh-uh.
Because The Gap was
pretty snooty back then.
It was a little snooty.
It was.
And we did have, and
it isn't a very kind of
high brow area of the
Minneapolis suburbs.
Oh, I know that mall,
First Mall in America.
First Mall in America, Southdale.
Not the Mall of America,
but the First Mall in America.
Right, so Southdale
Mall in Edina, Minnesota.
And I worked at that Gap Kids.
And there were quite a few,
like we had a famous baseball
player, Kirby Puckett, his
wife was there all the time
with her kids.
Never heard of him.
Yeah, he's a Hall of Famer.
I'm just kidding, everybody
knows Kirby Puckett, I think.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, okay, I didn't know if
it was just a Minnesota thing.
Yeah, something about, he
had a house in Nantucket?
I don't know.
(laughing)
We're not coming back from that one.
So which one did you like better then?
I don't know, I liked both of them.
I mean, one, I got clothes at 50% off,
which I still own
nearly every single outfit
or every single piece
of clothing that I bought
during that time, I still own it,
and many of them I still wear.
Is the Gap quality back
in the 80s, 90s, early 90s?
And then I don't usually tell people
that I actually got it at
Gap Kids instead of Gap,
because yes, those clothes fit me.
But yeah, and I loved
working at the ice cream shop
because it was just a local, small,
locally owned place,
and all the big group work there,
so I was friends with
everybody that worked there.
It was awesome.
Social for one, but perks for the other.
Yeah, I mean, the Gap
discount, not joking, 50% off.
They don't do things like that anymore.
So I've had a couple main jobs
in the times that I've had multiple jobs.
I mean, from the time I
was 19 to 24 probably,
I never worked less than three jobs.
So it's like, I had a lot
of jobs during that time.
Some of them I didn't even go to,
I would get hired and I
never even went to the first day,
or I showed up and I'm like, "No, that's
probably not for me.
"I'm gonna use the
restroom, I'll be right back."
Yeah, and Tuckett's calling my name.
That's right, that's right.
But FedEx was one that
I worked for a long time
with those guys.
In fact, I still know my
employee number there, 312213.
It's inverse of itself, but if you,
and I got hired back one time from them
and they're already in the 600,000s,
but I was like 300,000.
So I was early on, I had
an OG number back then,
but it was like the 300,000th employee,
because that's been
around since the 60s, or 70s.
My point being perks.
FedEx used to be able to
jump seat in the cockpit,
which was awesome.
I took advantage of
it two or three times.
That's how I got to Europe
twice, I think on my own,
or once on my own, I don't remember now.
Once on my own, I think at least.
I've been there twice, but I
went there once with FedEx.
Correct, yeah.
And that was just incredible.
That was a perk, and it was free.
As long as the jump seat
was open, put your name in it,
go to the airport, and you're there.
It was awesome. That is insane.
What a perk.
I know, here I'm bragging
about 50% off on clothes.
You got to fly to Paris for free.
I stayed a week in
Europe for like 200 bucks,
and I brought my own Ritz crackers box,
so it has like four or
five sleeves in there.
That's a lot of carbs, a lot of Ritz.
And that's what I lived off
of, because I had zero money.
I slept the first night,
it was in the World Cup,
and I slept in a church,
because there was no hostels available,
no hotels available.
Not that I could afford a
hotel during the World Cup.
In Paris. It's true, yeah.
This is 96, I think it was.
Yeah.
And so I pretended like I
was praying in a church,
in a pew, for like five
hours overnight one night.
Wow, you were really
atoning for something.
Yeah, well that pastor or
priest, whatever it was,
should've come to me like, clearly, son.
(laughing)
You don't have a place to sleep, feel
free to use the bench.
Lay down. Yeah, yeah.
Or you should meet me
in the confessional,
because clearly you need to
get something off your chest.
Yeah, no, I didn't trust that.
(laughing)
Meet me in the confessional
at two a.m. in the morning.
That doesn't sound--
Yeah, that doesn't sound good,
does it? Yeah, again, nantuck it.
Nantuck it.
You're not a nantuck at that.
Next day, so then I was
super tired, obviously,
so there used to be a
park that probably still is
under the Eiffel Tower.
And I laid down in the Eiffel, I laid
down in the park there,
just staring up at the
Eiffel Tower, fell asleep,
and I got woken up by the police sia.
Police sia?
And kindly was told, I believe in French,
that I can't sleep in the park.
Same thing happened in
London, long story short,
awesome perks back in the day.
I don't think perks are the same anymore.
I don't know.
I know FedEx doesn't do that anymore.
Right. Yeah.
And I guarantee GAP's not
giving you, what'd you say?
50%. No way.
They were almost BK anyways.
Yeah.
I mean, there was a limit per month
on how much you could get 50% on.
And it was like 10
articles you could get 50% on.
Anything over that, you got 30.
You should've just been up
to 100% of your paycheck.
I was like, yeah. Right?
Because then basically
you're working for free.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
Which it pretty much was.
But I mean, I was
like, if I buy five shirts,
five pairs of pants a month?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm not gonna buy that much.
I never even came close to camp.
You haven't bought that since.
You probably bought more
clothes when you worked at the GAP
than you have since we've been married.
Probably. Until a month ago.
You and our daughter finally went out
and spent a small fortune on
much-needed wardrobe updates.
Yeah.
And sadly, it would not have even hit
the 10 articles of clothing
in my GAP monthly stipend.
Do you remember when we used to have time
and we finally got a
little bit of extra cash flow?
And it was like, for a
couple years we had time
and the extra cash
flow at that point in time
to be like, we're just gonna go out.
We called it a shopping
spree, but it really wasn't.
But we went out, it
was once a year kind of,
and we would just kind
of freshen up our clothes.
And our closets and whatnot.
Yep, yep.
I always bought more than you.
I don't know about hallways.
I feel like I did,
but we used to do that.
Yeah, we did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always thought that was fun.
Oh, I'm sure it would be fun.
I don't know if it's fun now.
I don't enjoy shopping
as much as I used to.
Because I'm the buyer in our family.
Yeah.
I'm the shopper. You are.
In our family, but.
You have always, maybe not now,
but you've always preferred shopping.
And I'm just like,
let's just buy it and go.
I feel like I'm the
buyer, you're the shopper.
If that makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I want to make sure I'm
buying the right thing.
Yeah.
And I'm a little more impulsive in that.
Like, give me three options,
and I will pick from those
three and I will be happy.
Yeah, so my shopping stems
from, I think, my sickness.
Of missing out.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
You have FOMO.
I have FOMO big time.
Yeah, you do have FOMO big time.
You're missing out.
I have FOMO, and
that's why shopping takes me
a little bit longer,
because if I'm gonna buy this
and spend hard earned money,
I hope there's not something better,
or something I like more.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, even if you're
listening to music, right?
If you like the song, you're like,
let me see if there's something better.
And I'm like, but we like this song.
Yeah, I do that on SiriusXM.
Like, let me just check the other
channels real quick.
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,
and I was like, but now we
just, now we just missed.
20 seconds.
20 seconds of a good song.
I don't do that anymore,
because we don't listen to that.
Yeah, not usually, yeah, right.
But, or TV, you'll do that too.
Yeah.
We switch.
Our youngest son, the older he gets,
the more he is like you.
I said it just the other day,
I was like, wow, he is your son.
But he has that.
He's almost paralyzed by the options.
I'm not paralyzed by options.
I'll make a decision.
I don't have a
problem making the decision.
I just want to be sure I
know all my options, right?
But yeah, he's
developed it much earlier though
than I ever did.
I feel like I was a normal kid.
I mean, I was always a very clean kid.
I like to be organized
even as a young child.
We just talked about our rooms.
Our kids didn't inherit that.
My room had, when I
grew up, had a whole wall
hanging shelves.
So it was like these big,
you know the ropes that you
would climb to the ceiling
in junior high or high school?
Yeah, those ropes were all hanging,
there was like two,
four, six, eight, 10, 15,
you know, 12 of those ropes hanging
through long boards.
So like if you
grabbed one of the shelves,
you could pull it out and
it would swing back and hit.
I never did that obviously.
But had I sort of chose,
I could have done that.
But there was like, then there was like,
I don't know how many rows of shelving,
but all the way to the ceiling.
I remember at least five.
At least more than that.
There were smaller ones on the bottom.
They were wider, like 12
inches and then 15, 15, 15,
probably whatever it was.
But I would redo those all the time.
Yeah.
Because I would want to
like display like GI Joes
or this is my transformer shelf
or this was my drawing
shelf or whatever it was.
Then when I got older, it was,
okay, now I got my Michael Jordan stuff
or my bull stuff and
whatever this might be over here.
I had like my Chinese ninja stars on one.
You know what I mean?
Like the nunchucks I made out of wood
and string in the
garage, things like that.
But I would always, whatever I was into,
I would change it up.
Right.
But always, that was always organized.
Now, I'm sure my mom will tell you
that my clothes were everywhere.
I think they probably were.
I didn't make my bed.
But that part of it, I was very anal on.
As well as my posters.
I mean, I told you, you know this,
I think I've mentioned it on here.
My scale model of my
room was scale posters
of every wall so that I
could make sure I could,
because I often like to rearrange them.
And so then I could
rearrange them on my model,
my scale model.
Right.
And then apply it to real life.
Yeah.
Anyways, yes, our youngest
son has gotten a lot of that.
And at an earlier age though.
But that FOMO though
is a big deal for kids.
But I don't know that I felt
FOMO as much as a kid though.
I think you start getting
FOMO as a young adult probably.
Yeah.
Right?
I don't know.
Have you ever felt FOMO?
Oh, I'm sure I have.
You're missing out on something?
I'm sure I have.
But I don't seem to have
it as much as other people.
You, I would suggest on a
sliding scale of people that
are content, are very content.
You're never, you're very
rarely in search of more.
Right.
You're very content.
And we have a full life, not to say that
we live a full life.
That's right.
But you're content with it.
Yeah.
Whereas I'd be a little
bit further down that scale.
I'm not discontent.
Right.
But you're always looking
around the other corner.
Let me just check it out.
Like, let's see.
Yeah.
You know?
Like, maybe I would
bungee jump, or whatever.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And I'd be like, I live once.
I'm like, this book is really good.
How don't I just sit here and read this?
You go bungee jump, you have fun.
Yeah.
I am--
Like camping for me, that's one thing.
Like I do have fear of
missing out of camping
with our children more.
We've done it a few
times, but in Texas and stuff,
like, this is not real camping down here.
No.
You gotta go to the
mountains, Colorado or--
Rattlesnakes.
Yeah.
Why would you want to?
I've never seen a rattlesnake camping.
I've been camping a million times.
Here in Texas, though, I can imagine--
Oh, here in Texas.
Quickly.
Rattlesnakes in Colorado, too.
Oh, for sure, for sure.
I've seen them hiking.
But it gets so cold at
night that like, I don't know.
But you're also, I
mean, we have scorpions.
I mean, scorpion by our
door the other night, you know?
Yeah, in the second garage, yeah.
Yeah, like, so, yeah,
no camping in Texas.
Yeah, no camping in Texas, mm-mm.
(chuckling)
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, I don't know.
So, yeah, fear of missing
out on some stuff like that.
I don't know, I don't
think it runs my life at all.
But when presented with,
especially if I didn't know about it,
like, oh, well, maybe I do want that.
(chuckling) You know, like, I didn't
know I wanted that, actually.
Yeah, but I kinda do.
Yeah, one thing I did
wanna bring up on this
before it gets too long,
well, we won't go too long tonight
because we don't have time to do it,
was how cool, and for
our generation, too,
because this is one of those things,
there's things in our
generation for sure.
Like, you know where
you were when it happened.
Yeah.
Right, 9-11 is one.
Yep.
Maybe Bin Laden might've been one.
Yep.
But the space shuttle Challenger.
Challenger.
Was one of the first ones.
For sure.
That we definitely knew.
And how cool was it?
And I just don't know if it was lost
or if it was still cool in
today's world of technology.
But since we last went, I mean,
we had Americans go
around the moon and back.
Around the moon and back.
Artemis.
And I'm not a space geek,
but I'm a little bit of a space geek.
A little bit, yeah.
But I mean, a lot of
people are because it's cool.
It's something that
we don't know anything.
It's just something novel to us, right?
It makes you wonder, right?
It's in awe of it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just, yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah, I can go to that
side of it again, too,
but I just thought it was so cool
that we've kind of reopened, you know,
kind of like this
chapter of space exploration.
Mm-hmm.
You know, because we,
since we've been alive,
we never did the moon.
The moon thing was in
the 60s, right, for us.
Right. For the country first.
Now we're going back.
Right.
And they'll actually
have people on the moon
within five years, probably.
Right.
Or our kids lifetime.
But do you think our
kids thought it was cool?
Because I pushed on
them a little bit like,
hey, people are going
around the moon today,
or it was the rocket
lifted off with people on it.
I mean, not a lot of
rockets go off with people.
Right.
That are heading to the moon, at least.
Right.
I agree.
And then I think our
youngest was way into it.
Mm-hmm.
He, I mean, but he
really loves that stuff.
I think the oldest
also thought it was cool.
He and I watched it a little bit,
because we were at a--
Traveling.
We were traveling for soccer.
Yeah.
And so we watched a little bit,
but he had a team he had to go down for,
but we watched them at some point there,
I think there, that
night, that was the night,
oh, that was Splashdown Night.
Yeah.
That was Splashdown Night.
So we watched that, that was cool.
We watched them when
they were the furthest
in a human has ever been.
Gosh.
But what I find
fascinating about it, really cool,
but the physics and the
math and the brainiacs
that are behind--
Oh my gosh.
Everything that goes into that.
Yeah.
I literally, I'm in
awe of how people feel.
A Hidden Figures is a great movie
that kind of just gives you an idea.
Right.
Of kind of what all went into that
and how smart, I mean, like, next level.
Next level smart.
Yes.
Right, yeah.
Level, I mean like,
literally out of this world,
intelligence.
Fun, absolutely intended on that one.
Absolutely intended on that one.
Yeah.
That is what, almost more than anything,
just, I think is incredible.
It blows my mind, I
mean, we saw that one real
and the type of
mathematics that it even takes
to figure out, to make that space shuttle
go around the moon and all of that.
I don't even know what
most of those mathematics are.
Yeah, orbital this and that and this.
Right. I mean, like, I took physics,
which is like the
introductory, that's like one plus one.
Right, right.
Of physics, yeah.
But back in the 60s,
they did it all by hand.
They didn't have, I mean, they didn't--
They didn't have computers.
They had computers, but they didn't,
couldn't really do what we do.
No.
That's what that whole
movie's a little bit about.
Right.
Today we have more of
that, but it's just,
it still is incredible
what they did and, you know,
like how they explained
it this time and, you know,
like gravity, they're
really just falling back
to the earth, they're not,
even though they were going
26,000 miles an hour,
which was seven miles a second.
Yes.
When they hit the thing,
which I think just blows my mind
to think of a human being.
If you put your head off
the window, you're dead.
(laughs)
I just, he needed never heard.
Yeah, but it's just crazy
to me that if you put someone
in something that stays
together, a human can just sit there
and feel like they're
in the station wagon,
but they're going seven miles a second.
Seven miles a second.
Yeah.
I mean, that's just incredible.
I don't understand it,
but I'm in awe of it,
and that's why it's just so cool.
Well, and then the fact
that the math and the physics
work so that they could go
from seven miles per second
to hit the water at a
gentle, like one mile an hour,
whatever it was.
It was 18 miles an
hour, like 13 minutes later.
Yeah.
So 27,000 miles an hour.
Yeah.
To 18.
18.
In 13 minutes.
I mean, that is insanity to me.
And it had to work
perfectly, all the pairs.
So, I mean, I'm not ashamed to say, like,
when I watched that,
I mean, I don't know if it's pride, I
don't know if it's just,
I don't know what
human spirit or what it is,
but I mean, I was welled up.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Probably wiping a tear or two,
because it's just like,
A, I'm happy they all
lived, because we lived in an era
where we've seen
people, I mean, the Columbia.
I remember watching that
on TV, I was at Mimi's,
I was a waiter at
Mimi's on a Saturday morning,
watching it come in,
because it was happening.
So I was actually watching it,
and it broke up on
reentry, and it was like, whoa.
You know what I mean?
So that's real, they're
putting their lives on the line,
these people are for science.
Yeah, they are, they are.
They are absolute heroes.
I mean, and it is, I think it is that
human spirit, right,
of just like, oh my gosh,
it kind of unites mankind
to be like, we can do this together,
or there's just something bigger than us,
when something like that happens.
That's just really, I kind of love it,
because I just, it's so over my head,
that it makes me feel like a kid.
Yeah.
You know, like giddy
about it, that's incredible.
It's like magic.
It is, it's like magic and wonder,
because I mean, I'm
not an astrophysicist,
I couldn't tell you
the first thing about it.
I thought that's what
you did all day long.
All day long.
When you were meeting and emailing.
While I'm doing email and meeting, right.
Email and meeting.
Right, that's what astrophysicists do.
That really came back
up for me this week.
I watched it again, just laughed,
because it's just your life, totally.
It's totally my life.
Because he's talking to
somebody else, he's like,
"But what do you actually do?"
I email and meeting.
And sometimes I email while I'm meeting.
I email and meeting.
It's so funny.
Oh my gosh. We can bring it up a million more times.
Oh my gosh.
All right, well let's
not go too long tonight.
I mean, what else do
we want to talk about
that happened in the last two weeks?
Anything in particular you can think of?
I think we were in Indiana.
You were in Indiana.
Last time that happened.
Yeah.
I got this shirt because I was cold.
But I mean, on average, I
mean, in the wintertime,
your typical attire for
an outdoor sporting event
is six layers on top?
Six layers, it's more than skiing.
But I'm not working.
Like skiing, you get hot because you're
working, going down.
Yeah.
You know, we're not doing greens.
Well, we weren't, I'm just kidding.
Super proud of you, honey, you did it.
That seems so genuine.
You're gonna do it again.
Yeah, you did great.
I am proud of you, that's incredible.
What a journey, what a last year you had.
Everybody doesn't even know
all the things you had to go through.
It's been something.
And you come out on top.
On a green, I came out on a green.
You came out on a blue.
I actually came out on a blue, you're
right, you're right.
You did.
So that's how you come
out, you come out on a blue.
How about for you,
anything from your side?
I forgot what we were talking about.
Just the last two weeks,
anything that we wanted to cover.
Okay, we are finally realizing
what it is truly like to have a driver.
Another driver in the house.
Yeah.
At first it was great, I was
like, oh wow, it's so nice.
I don't have to do
school pickup right now,
this is amazing.
I mean, so that's kind
of when it first started.
I didn't have to do an
extra school run in the morning
to get to practice at 6.15 or 6.30.
Awesome, now, I mean, he
drives himself to practice.
It's just like we get so much time back.
Yep.
Now, I do worry about him driving.
Yep.
But there is a freedom
and just like a, oh my gosh.
I mean, we've spent, was it last week?
We had two weekend nights
where you and I were both home.
And I bet you could count on one hand,
except for the month of July.
I bet you could count on one time,
the number of weeks where
both of us are home two nights
in a week.
Yeah, we touched on it
last time a little bit,
but as we're more, we
get more and more into it
and more and more comfortable with that.
It is a total game changer.
Game changer.
It scares me, I'm still not used to it.
Honestly, I don't even
think about it that much.
I think that's my self-keeping.
Yeah, it's your self-preservation.
Exactly what I was looking for.
Because it does make me nervous.
And like you've said a couple times,
like you pulled out behind him today,
going to the dentist
because of a whole thing.
And so why not take two cars?
Well, I can tell you why,
because the attendance
office wasn't on top of it.
Right.
But you were having to be behind him,
he didn't know it and
you called him, why?
I called him because I was like,
you took that turn too fast.
He's like, what?
No, I didn't.
And I was like, you were flying.
Like you were rapidly accelerating.
And I mean, I had two kids in
the car and they all saw it.
And so they even said it, they're like,
whoa, he's going fast.
Yeah, here's what I just realized.
This epiphany just hit me like,
oh, I got a thousand pounds.
You officially become
parents when you have teenagers.
Your parents when you have kids,
but you become stereotypical parents.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you have teenagers.
Because everything just hits.
Like I'm just looking at
you and I'm looking at myself.
I'm like, yeah, we're parents now.
Before we were, we were,
we were Sean and Megan with kids.
With kids, that's right, that's right.
Now we're parents.
Yes.
That act like stereotypical,
you took that turn too fast.
You know, I mean, blah, blah, blah.
You know what I mean?
Like all the stereotypical parents stuff
that people make fun of.
It's what we do now.
The progressive commercials.
Are us.
It's like what we do now.
Yeah, uh-huh.
It's crazy.
And like the last year
I've been easing into it,
but it's like when I was
a kid, when I was a kid.
(laughing) It's just normal.
Like I've actually had to stop using
myself as an example
to parent our children.
Cause I'm sure they're so tired of it.
I'm sure.
When I played sports,
you know what I mean?
It was like, okay, they don't care about
when I play sports.
I know that now.
Because why?
I am just the stupid
stereotypical parent.
I know nothing.
And I'm embarrassing.
My pants are worn too high.
They're, you know,
all that kind of stuff.
I wear white tinnies everywhere.
With black socks.
Yeah.
You actually don't do any of those.
Just for their record.
But I'm gonna ask for
all that for Christmas.
Because it's just time.
Because I got it now.
I am embracing it.
I realize now who I really am.
I don't know.
Do you feel that?
Would you agree?
I mean, it's just like, I
don't know if it's because
now we've stopped trying
to have fun with the kids.
And it's like, I don't
even want to say this
because I know our
parents are gonna watch this
and they're gonna be like,
Uh-huh.
I told you.
And finally you get it.
It's like, no, we get it.
Like, it's been, parenting's not easy.
Nobody gets a book.
I understand that.
But teenagers are a whole other animal.
We've got great kids.
We do.
But you have to be so strategic.
All the time.
The strategically, nope, nope.
Nope.
The strategically involved.
Parenting teenagers
is next stinking level.
It is.
It absolutely is.
It's, I mean, there was one night,
there was recently in the
last couple of weeks probably,
I sat up for probably
an hour, if not two,
laying in bed, thinking about
how I could address something
with one of the kids,
because something needed to
be addressed pretty quickly,
in the morning.
And like, how can I say
this so that that child
doesn't take offense
or shut down or rebel,
but yet still get my point across
without being overbearing or judgmental?
I mean.
I think I swooped in and
saved the day on that one, but.
Absolutely.
I'm just kidding.
Absolutely, no, you did help.
But I mean, it is.
It's when every, not every,
but most conversations
require the element of,
I'm playing five dimensional chess,
with a kid who has no idea
they're playing the game.
That's why I have to
be strategic about it.
I didn't want to do that.
I was like, I'm telling you to be quiet.
I got something to say.
No, I was like, yes, I was listening.
That's my listening.
I used to say meetings would be this.
I'm not listening to you.
Just shaking my head and
trying to hide the fact
that I'm yawning.
I'm thinking if I can get on
an earlier flight home today.
I'm just kidding.
The thing that's changed potentially
is the way our kids look
at us and we know it now.
They used to worship us.
Mom and dad ruled the world.
We were the coolest
things possibly, wanted us.
They wanted to hang out with us.
They wanted to hear from us.
Mom and dad were awesome.
We're not anymore.
No.
We're knowing parents.
We're not mom and dad anymore.
We're knowing parents.
Because of that, we've
had to shift a little bit.
Our kids don't, we've
got great kids again.
It's not like they're
rebelling against us.
No, they actually like spending time
with us quite a bit.
But it's the natural course though
for them to change into that
because that's how they
have to get on their own.
We have to allow them to do that too.
I think that's a
little bit of the difference
in where it's like, you're
just not the cool dad anymore.
It's like, I'd rather
go hang with my friends
and that kind of stuff.
And then that pushes us as mom and dad
into just this parenting corner.
Because sadly, there is still a lot of
parenting to be done.
Even though we've already given them
all the rules and guidelines.
Yeah.
Now it's just like plugging
the holes in the dam constantly.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And reiterating what they know
and I mean, it's or
what they should know.
And in a way that they
are going to receive it.
Yeah.
And that's what's so hard.
When they're four, you just tell them.
It doesn't take a whole
lot of strategic thinking.
Yeah.
Right?
You have the upper, yeah,
you have the high ground.
Yeah.
All the time.
And now you're actually
coming from a position
where you don't.
But yet you still have to
impress what's important
and still instill
values and teach and guide,
even though they don't necessarily know
that you're doing it.
Yeah.
It's hard.
Oh, they know, but I think do they care?
Do they care?
And is it absorbing?
Yeah.
And that's why you have to do it in a
totally different way.
Yeah.
Because you're at the age
where they're gonna learn,
they're gonna learn the,
they already know all the right answers.
It's just, are you
gonna learn it the easy way
or are you gonna do it the hard way?
And some people, most
people choose to learn it
on their own, I think.
Because that's the
easiest way to, I mean, that's--
Absolutely.
Probably the best way to learn it.
Right.
And that's how most people learn it.
Right.
That's how I learned it.
Sure my parents say, don't
touch the fire because it's hot,
but if you don't ever touch it,
you never know if it is hot.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And that is probably a
difference between being
the oldest child and
being the second oldest child.
Like, I learned a lot of mistakes
because my older
brother made those mistakes
and I didn't have to.
That's a personality thing too.
Sure.
It's positional, but
it's a personality thing too
because you've always been steady Eddie.
Yeah.
Yeah, you tell me not to touch something,
I'm not gonna touch it.
Right.
That's not gonna make
me want to touch it.
I'll never touch it.
Right.
Yeah.
Whereas other personalities be like,
sure thing.
Yeah.
I'm gonna touch it.
I gotta go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I am Groot.
Yeah, I am Groot.
I am Groot.
(laughs)
You're like, no, no, you're not Groot.
All right, well, anything else?
Let's keep it a little bit short today.
I don't think so.
No.
We could do an I'm peeved,
but there's just been too much.
Can I do a really quick I'm peeved?
Yeah, mine's stupid people.
Go ahead, yours?
Mine is too.
Mine's the person who
decided to do a U-turn
in the middle of the street.
Yeah, yep.
Just a two lane road.
Just a two lane road?
35 miles an hour.
Like, huh.
I know, I'm not at a
stop sign or anything else.
I am just in the middle of a road.
Embankments on both sides, no shoulder.
No shoulder.
I'm just gonna turn
around in the middle of a road.
Yeah.
With someone behind me.
Okay.
And no wave afterwards either.
No, and they couldn't, I mean,
they're in like a Toyota Corolla
and couldn't even make the U-turn.
I'm like, really?
You know what I wanna
see someone do that time?
The only reason that would be okay
is if somebody put a flashing light on
the top of their car,
like an old police car light.
Yeah.
And then maybe you have a
Wookiee out the back window
going like, whoo.
Do you remember that
movie I'm referencing?
No.
Oh, I don't either.
(laughing)
That was a good one, honey.
No, there was a movie that had that.
It was about a Bigfoot.
It was like Bigfoot, John.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, Lithgow was in it.
Harry and the Hendersons.
Harry and the Hendersons.
And the Bigfoot put
his head out the window
and he was like, whoo,
whoo, down the highway.
And people got out of their way.
That's what I was referencing.
Now, if the person in
front of you did that,
I would have been like, yeah, you.
You know what?
You do a U-turn.
And I'm gonna want to
see another one, actually.
Do a 360.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
Well, it's pretty good to
get another episode 58 done.
Yes.
In the books.
Done.
Feels good.
Yeah, it really does.
Because I'm really looking forward to 60,
but we gotta do 59 in between those.
I know, well, you know.
If we go
chronological, we could just do--
We could just skip it.
Episode 3000 next.
I love you 3000.
I love you 3000, yeah.
Okay.
(laughing) We'll consider that maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah.
All right, anything else?
I think that's it for tonight.
All right, well, good
luck out there, everybody.
Be safe.
All right, thanks for joining.
We will see you next time.
Oh, sorry, I stepped on you.
No, I totally interrupted you.
Go ahead, you start the exit again.
No, that's it, we're good.
Wrap it.
Yeah, we're gonna wrap it,
but do you wanna do your chow chow again?
I was talking over it.
Chow chow.
All right, see ya.
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It's like what we do now.
Right?
So there. The strategically, nope, nope.
Nope.
The strategically involved.
Parenting teenagers
is next stinking level.
It is.
And I'm embarrassing.
My pants are worn too high.
I wear white tennies everywhere.
With black socks.
Yeah.
You actually don't do any of those
just for the record.
But I'm gonna ask for
all that for Christmas.
Can I do a really quick I'm peeved?
Yeah, mine's stupid people.
Go ahead, yours.
Mine is too.
(imitates
Good one, honey.