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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. You know, I've covered the great reset, the transfer of wealth we've seen over the past couple of years, Central Bank digital currency. I've covered these topics extensively. And the underlying concern that I've had as with many of our guests is that we're being set up for some sort of big event in the future where they will be able to transfer a lot of our wealth and with our wealth and our control over our own assets comes power they don't like, but that they'll be able to transfer all that into the hands of the globalist and really make, you know, Klaus Schwab and the the WEF's, you know, moniker of you'll own nothing and be happy in absolute reality.
Seth Holehouse:And so recently, there was a a documentary. There's a book and a documentary based on that called The Great Taking. Actually, I'll pull it up. This is it right here. So The Great Taking.
Seth Holehouse:And this in the past week or two has really been going everywhere on the Internet because what it does is it outlines the details of how this would work. And Mr. Webb, the David Webb, who's the author and the main person in the documentary, asserts his opinion that he thinks that we're heading towards an event like that, and that everything is being set up in leading us into an event where through a series of collapses, not only will people lose a lot of money because you got money in the markets, etc. But that actually it will initiate a massive, massive wealth transfer, the largest wealth transfer our earth has ever seen. And so joining us today is my good friend, doctor Kirk Elliott, to help us make sense of this because a lot of it, though the documentary is easy for me to grasp the core concepts, a lot of it is still over my head.
Seth Holehouse:And so we're gonna play a a good chunk of that documentary, maybe like eight minutes or or so of it that, you know, will help outline the principles of what mister Webb is talking about. And then I'm going have Kirk help analyze it and help us make sense of it. So folks, please enjoy this interview with Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, it's great to have you back on as usual.
Seth Holehouse:Merry Christmas as well.
Speaker 2:Merry Christmas to you. It's great to be back.
Seth Holehouse:It's it's always wonderful speaking with you. So there's this documentary called The Great Taking, which was released on Children's Health Defense. It's also on YouTube, and I'll link it because you you can watch it for free on YouTube. And actually, even through the website or the here, thegreattaking.com, you can download the book, which I wanna do on a read the book. But the documentaries, you know, quite well done, easy to follow, good storytelling.
Seth Holehouse:And I'm seeing this being talked about everywhere. It just came out in the past, you know, week or two. And it talks the documentary goes over a lot of what you and I have talked about, but it actually expands a lot more on that. And so to to frame our discussion today, I wanna play there's probably about a five to eight minute clip I've I've selected in the documentary that I really wanna get you to analyze and help explain because it goes into, you know, client and broke you know, client brokerage accounts with the the big banks and things that I I understand conceptually, but I I need you to help me navigate through this because it seems like what this documentary presents is really, really, really significant. So is that that fine with you?
Seth Holehouse:So jump right into that.
Speaker 2:That sounds amazing. I love it.
Seth Holehouse:Okay. Okay. Great. Great. So let's go and get this get this playing.
Speaker 3:So in 02/2008, I noticed the first failure of a broker dealer. So I was expecting there to be a lot of insolvencies. I was paying attention. And the thing that shocked me was that the client accounts in this broker dealer were encumbered in the bankruptcy estate of the broker that never could have happened before. In all of the history of securities, they were personal property.
Speaker 3:And if the broker failed, you would say, I'm sorry you're out of business. Here's where you can transfer my assets. That did not happen in this case. So I started digging into what could possibly have changed. And this was as serious as a heart attack given that we were going into this meltdown at that time.
Speaker 3:That's when I discovered it had been done through changes to the Uniform Commercial Code in The United States. This had been done in all 50 states, so it was something that could be done very quietly over a long period of time and did not have to be done at the federal level, didn't draw attention. What they did was to create a new legal construct of a security entitlement. Now prior to this, as I said, securities for four hundred years were personal property. This concept of security entitlement severed that.
Speaker 3:That's its purpose. So what people then have in institutions and pension funds, even sophisticated investors, all they have is an entitlement. It's a claim. It's a contractual claim, which is very weak in the event of insolvency. So it's an appearance of ownership.
Speaker 3:It's sometimes referred to as beneficial ownership, which sounds nice, but what it means is that you receive dividends, you receive a proxy, you are the owner of title, you can, of course, you can buy it and sell it, but you can see in documents that I've found that the legal owner is actually the entity that controls the security with a secured interest. They are the legal owners of the property. So now you have a contractual claim. Next, all of the securities are held in pooled form. So you have no specific identification.
Speaker 3:It used to be that with paper certificates, they were numbered. You had a specific numbered bond or stock share certificate. So now they're fungible. Fungible bulk, book entry form pooled. Further, know, and it is absolutely irrefutable from the Fed's own response to a questionnaire from the EU, that even segregated accounts, even people or institutions that have been told that their securities are segregated are in the same pool and entitled to only a pro rata share in the event of an insolvency of the custodian.
Speaker 3:So, again, segregation is just an appearance. People are told that. It's an absolute subterfuge. And the shocking thing is that even sophisticated institutional investors do not understand this or they don't want to know it. Further, even if fraud, outright fraud is committed by the custodian, that does not obviate the ability of the secured creditors to take the securities from these pools ahead of the people who thought they owned them.
Speaker 3:Then there was, in 02/2005, a change to the bankruptcy law in The United States creating something called safe harbor. Again, sounds nice, but what safe harbor means is safe harbor for the secured creditors to take the client assets and to make that absolutely certain that even in the event of fraud, they will take client assets. So prior to this change in bankruptcy law, there was something called fraudulent transfer, fraudulent conveyance. And the trustee, the bankruptcy trustee, had a duty to claw back any assets that had been fraudulently transferred. So this change was made in 02/2005, and then with the failure of Lehman Brothers, this was cemented in case law.
Speaker 3:And we can see the judgment by the bankruptcy court related to this. What happened there was that JPMorgan was both the custodian for the client assets and the secured creditor that took the client assets, which prior to 02/2005, everything that happened there would have been constructively fraudulent. But the bankruptcy judge, this is the Southern District New York, which is Manhattan, found in favor of JPMorgan that JPMorgan absolutely was entitled to take the client assets. The only question was whether JPMorgan was an entitled person, basically, to take the client assets. This is an important point because it's not all secured creditors that have this power to take the client assets.
Speaker 3:It is only the very biggest banks that are entitled to take the client assets. So they don't want anyone else elbowing in her to take anything. Only they will take them. And in this judgment, the judge asked the question, is JPMorgan a member of the protected class? Used explicitly those words and said quite obviously, as one of the biggest banks in the world, biggest financial institutions, JPMorgan is quite obviously a member of the protected class.
Speaker 3:To see this in a bankruptcy case law from the court, I think that's pretty strong stuff. It's like that document directly from the Fed provided to the legal certainty group. This is hard to refute. A custodian has the records of who owns what. It's in their books and records, but that's all it is.
Speaker 3:It is the records. The system has been changed so that the property itself is then transferred up to a higher level and held in pool form. So you deal with your broker to execute a trade to buy or sell something, and you get a representation of an account that shows you what you have in it, but the assets are not held even at what you think is your custodian. It's transferred to a higher level. In The US, that is the Depository Trust Corp, which holds all securities in The United States in pooled form.
Speaker 3:So the brokers themselves are low down in the food chain. In Europe, there are central security depositories at the national level that give an appearance of a registry of ownership at the national level. But by law, under something called the Central Security Depository Regulation, CSDR, which was imposed in 2014, by law, these securities are transferred by a mandatory link to an international central securities depository. So they want cross border mobility of the collateral to occur. So in Sweden, for example, you have a local registry, but then the securities go up to EuroClear Belgium.
Speaker 3:So they are subject to Belgian law, not Swedish law at that level. And then the collateral is transported to underpin the derivatives complex, which is housed at the central clearing counterparties. The acronym is the CCPs. So this is the purpose to take the collateral up to this central clearing counterparty level. And we know from a BIS document that is now over ten years old that the systems are in place for the movement of this collateral on a global basis nearly instantaneously, especially in a crisis to be swept to meet the collateral demands of the system, the secured creditors.
Speaker 3:Also associated with this, we have to understand derivatives used to be bilateral. You knew when you entered into a contract who your counterparty was, and you look to the credit quality of that counterparty. They were on the other side. In the name of reducing risk, they actually increased risk. They created a monolithic risk because they forced central clearing so that the CCP is the counterparty on all derivatives contracts.
Speaker 3:The central clearing parties are the counterparties. And what does that mean if the central clearing party itself fails? That means there is no counterparty there to honor the derivative contracts for all manner of things, but especially people that think that they have hedged their downside risk in the collapse. There's no counterparty. And the central clearing parties have been deliberately undercapitalized.
Speaker 3:So in Europe and The US, there are discussions by the participants themselves about the possibility of the central clearing parties failing. In the last few years, there have been discussions of this. And if you look at DTC itself, which houses all the securities in The US securities complex and is the central clearing party for most derivatives, they have discussion of how they will start over again when the central clearing party collapses. And, explicitly that they will not put more capital behind it, but they have prefunded the startup of a new central clearing party when one of the existing ones fails. So it's essentially planned, and the entire capital base of depository trusts, so essentially, the entire US Securities complex is housed there in all derivatives.
Speaker 3:The entire capital is $3,500,000,000. Individual banks have derivative positions the size of the global GDP. So something will happen to trigger this collapse implosion. I would say the cake is already baked at this time. It's been made to happen because to take interest rates after having kept them at zero for fifteen years, which was insane to begin with and did not have to happen, was made to happen.
Speaker 3:And then in essentially a year to take that back to over 5%. And if you're noticing they're not stopping, the rates are continuing up. I'll go
Seth Holehouse:they're
Speaker 3:through what that means for the global financial system. When interest rates
Seth Holehouse:So he continues, and we could just keep watching. I mean, it's incredible. But let me maybe first give my basic understanding of what he said. And I want to really hand it over to you to help explain it. So so what I got from that was that when people are investing, say they're going to a stockbroker, a stockbroker or that that, you know, entity, maybe it's an offshoot of JPMorgan, etc.
Seth Holehouse:That a, based around 02/2005 into 02/2008, things were changed so that basically, you no longer own that asset. And actually that the the brokerage, you know, they own the asset. So if they go into default, they can actually claim all of your money as their own asset in a default. So instead of like what he says earlier in the documentary, it used to be that if your your broker went under, you could then go and request you have a way of getting your money back. Whereas this, it's like they've changed it so that you're giving up to them.
Seth Holehouse:And if they go under, they take everything. So that's the first part of it. But then basically, as it explains, it goes up to these central clearing, the the the CCP. Right? These so basically, money, those assets and securities keep getting moved up and up further up the chain.
Seth Holehouse:And so it's kind of owned by the bigger guy owned by the bigger guy until it gets to these these massive, at least called the CCP, which is interesting acronym. But then so all those securities go up to central place. But then that central place is being used. It seems to be used against the derivatives market. So using that as the way to back their their their process in the derivatives market so that kind of coming full circle that if things start to trickle down and collapse, that the reason why he calls this book The Great Taking, which is a book and documentary, and he says central bankers have a system in place to take everything from everyone, that it appears that if there is this collapse, which he goes into why he thinks it's actually coming very soon.
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Seth Holehouse:What it means is it gives them the ability to almost seize all assets globally that are in their system. So I I now I that's my elementary understanding. I really wanna hear what you have to say now.
Speaker 2:Well, okay. So there's a lot to unpack. But, I mean, you did a really good job on bullet pointing that. But, you know, this goes back a ways, but the the big financial crisis in 02/2009. Right?
Speaker 2:So if if you if you boil it down to what happened and how they protected themselves afterwards, the big boys, the big banks. Right? It's like, okay. If there's a financial collapse, we're gonna make sure we don't go under, but but the investing public can. How did they do that?
Speaker 2:By transfer of ownership from the individual to them so they can liquidate assets and make sure that they don't go out of business. Right. That's how I interpret that. Now, that's not necessarily a new concept, right? Because, for example, and people won't really like hearing this, but let's say you you own a house.
Speaker 2:You're you're free and clear of your mortgage. You worked really hard all decades and paid it off. You still don't own it, Seth, because if you don't pay your property taxes, what happens? Goes to a tax lien auction and somebody pays your back taxes and then they own your property. So if you don't pay your property taxes, you still don't own your house, even though you may have paid off your mortgage, right?
Speaker 2:So that goes back since the beginning of time with property taxes. You don't actually own the assets that you think that you own. Now what this did is it actually took different private assets securities, not just a house that pays property taxes. It took securities and packets them under the umbrella into a pooled account that then they can lease, that they can have different tranches of. They can resell it, repackage it.
Speaker 2:For example, let's say you have a bunch of high risk assets, so you like subprime lending loans. Well, you put those into a packet. You don't own them. They do. And then they can resell them over and over and over again, which is why when that guy was going over the list of derivatives where that counterparty risk isn't really shown, JPMorgan Chase, I saw them on the list, had $77,000,000,000,000 worth of derivatives exposure.
Speaker 2:77,000,000,000,000. The entire national debt of America is 32,000,000,000,000. So just one institution has more than double the entire national debt of America. And then that list goes on. I mean, most of the top 10 on that list have more derivatives debt than the entire US debt of America, right?
Speaker 2:I mean, this is crazy. But something else happened, which why I think this guy might be onto something that a collapse is more imminent. So if you look back to June twentieth of twenty twenty three, the Bank for International Settlements came out with this document, the blueprint for the future monetary system, Improving the Old and Enabling the New is what it was called. Well, in there, they discuss a concept of a unified ledger. So the unified ledger and you and I talked about this actually on the show back in July, I believe.
Speaker 2:But the so the unified ledger, what is it describes this Orwellian globalist run unified ledger that records the ownership of all assets, just like what this guy was talking about, checking accounts, real estate, bonds, stocks. You know, they they let's see. They house all of that under the Depository Trust Clearing Corporation, DTCC or whatever that acronym was. Right? So that's where everything is owned.
Speaker 2:Now Bank for International Settlements is actually a little bit further centralized exchange run by the globalists. All these assets in a digital money world are going to be tokenized, right? Meaning it's a process where the Bank for International Settlements describes that as recording claims on financial or real assets that exist on a traditional ledger, and they put it onto a programmable platform. Which means what? This is what should strike fear into the listeners that, because now the globalists have this programmable entity, meaning that all of your ownership of assets can be revoked or altered at any particular moment with the flip of a switch to according to the, I don't know, social engineering desires of the globalist.
Speaker 2:You speak out against child sex trafficking, for example, or child transmutulations, and all of your assets can vanish from the unified ledger. Or let's just say it's not something so evil and foul, but it's just like you buy gas for your gas guzzling truck instead of having an electric vehicle. Right? It's like anything that's against their agenda, they could now take ownership, reprogram all of your assets in one fell swoop because it's now part of this unified ledger, this tokenization process. So now what have we heard recently that actually tells us that this is in full swing?
Speaker 2:Well, look at what's happening in Congress right now, the SEC wanting to completely demonize blockchain cryptocurrency. Decentralized cryptocurrency where these the decentralized cryptocurrency means you don't necessarily know the owner. You don't know the recipient, you don't know the use of the funds, it's completely private. Centralizing of everything under like a central bank digital currency system, a unified ledger is the opposite of privacy. It's knowing everything, The source of funds, the use of funds, when you use it, who you do it, what your buying patterns are, what your habits are, all of that.
Speaker 2:So they're wanting to demonize basically blockchain cryptocurrency even now, which means they're moving in this direction, getting rid of stuff that's private, going into a central bank digital currency unified ledger, where everything that this gentleman was talking about is actually difficult ten years ago because it's all these paper certificates and transactions and held at this Depository Trust Clearing Corporation or whatever it's called. But now under a digital currency, a digital wallet, well, you don't actually own anything. And so when World Economic Forum and those creeps over there say, you're going to own nothing and you're going to like it, Right? What do they mean? They already know that because of these actions that were taken, you already don't own it.
Speaker 2:You're a beneficial owner of it. You have used to it. But in all of these terms of, I don't know, the terms of agreement and all these different things that you always get, like when you're on Netflix or banks, you know, it's like, Okay, are you going to sign the new terms and conditions sheet? Well, if you don't, you don't get access to it. So nobody ever reads that stuff.
Speaker 2:They just scroll through and go to the end, hit the box and sign it. It's like, great. I get Netflix now. Same thing with your bank. We had the same thing with one of our banks where the mobile wallet thing that we get on the app on our phone, it's like, well, they had terms and conditions that changed.
Speaker 2:Scroll all the way through it. You couldn't actually access your money unless you agreed to it. It's like they don't give you a choice. It's like click through it, hit the box that says I read it and I accept it, and then hit enter. Boom.
Speaker 2:Now you have access to the mobile app again. If we don't do that, you don't actually have access to your money. Because if you don't have access to the app where you can write checks, you can send, look at your deposits, where you can do all of that, do you actually own it? No. This is what this guy is saying.
Speaker 2:You don't own it to begin with. You're a beneficial owner, which means you get the right to use your own assets because in some legal mechanization somehow, some way, you actually transferred ownership of your stuff to the bank, to the financial institutions. This is what's so creepy about everything that that gentleman was saying.
Seth Holehouse:So even a person that has a 401 k or a Vanguard trading account or JP Morgan stock account or any of these things that they actually don't own those that technically they they're they have the they're a beneficiary of the trades, and they get the dividends and whatnot. But actually, even paper stocks, like it showed the guy holding up the old Enron stock, right, that had a number on it, you own that. They've digitized all this. I mean, it it reminds me of the same strategy in essence that they've that they've used with the pandemic and the pandemic treaty, where they've changed all these laws so that basically, if the the globalists declare a, you know, certain type of health emergency, that actually bypasses the constitution according to say Joe Biden saying, yeah, you know, here's your permission to do this. And so it seems like you connected the dot with looking at the BIS, the unified ledger that we've talked about.
Seth Holehouse:So what I'm seeing in this is what they've done is that they've laid the legal groundwork for them to be able to seize assets of people that basically any assets that are in their system, I'm sure it applies to even bank accounts, four zero one k's, house, anything that's in their system, that's an asset gets put into this ledger, this, you know, this BIS unified ledger, which we've we've covered extensively. And that they've then they've set up the legal framework so that if there's a, say, a financial crisis or, you know, these companies become insolvent, that you don't even own that. So it becomes almost instantaneous. Like like you said in that video that the be through the BIS, it's instantaneous so that there could be some sort of financial collapse, and all of a sudden, the globalists have seized every asset within their system. Is that I mean, it seems very Orwellian and scary, but is that is that basically what it boils down to?
Speaker 2:Really what it boils down to. I mean, I can remember vaguely, this is a long time ago, when the nineeleven attacks happened and the towers came down. Part of what was in that building, and I remember seeing reports at the time and people were freaking out because back then, nothing was really digital, right? You didn't I mean, this was in February time frame, 02/2001, right? So what exactly was in that building?
Speaker 2:Well, like the title on your house, they had just rooms of everybody's paper title in there, gone, vanished forever. Right? But it's like, don't worry, it's digitized. We have it on a central computer somewhere. Right?
Speaker 2:So I think now you get rid of all the paper record. And what are people going to do? It's like, it's in the rubble of the tower. It's burned up. You can't find it.
Speaker 2:It's gone forever. But don't worry, we have the ledger in electronic form somehow, someway, not to the advancement that they do today. And people just think, well, they have access to it. It's digital, right? They don't need that paper title anymore.
Speaker 2:But really, that was one of the transitions from the old way to the new way, where now everything's digital and you don't actually need the paper certificate anymore because everything's digital. But under that transition, you actually somehow, someway unknowingly gave up ownership of the assets to just having use of it. You have use of your own stuff. You don't actually own it. Or maybe you have joint ownership, which isn't the same as fully owning it.
Speaker 2:Because even if you have joint ownership, somebody else can use it without your permission. That's in part of all the TOCs and all these things. It's like, man, I don't like this. I don't like this new system. No wonder World Economic Forum.
Speaker 2:These globalists, Seth, don't actually hide in the shadows anymore because for, I don't know, for legal reasons, for transparency to say, well, we've told you that you own nothing. I mean, nobody believed it. Right? But they're out there bragging about this, how we're not going to own anything and we're going to like it. Nobody listens to it because it's so extreme, nobody could actually realize that it's really that bad.
Speaker 2:But truly, they've actually already done it.
Seth Holehouse:This also makes me wonder because as we've looked at we've talked about the stock market and how against all odds, it continues to climb and climb, but it seems like it's on really shaky stilts the higher it goes. And it makes me wonder if they know some sort of significant shift is gonna happen. They know there's a collapse that's coming. But they're what they're trying to do is to keep everyone's assets in this system for as long as possible. Because if the stock market stay, say it started dropping, it started showing a lot of instability, you might have more people pulling money out and putting it into other different assets.
Seth Holehouse:And, you know, the the the greatest concern for them is probably people pulling out of the system in general. Right? So having a big pile of cash on their bed instead of having all that money sitting in a four zero one k account exam for example. Because then it's no longer part of their obviously, it's then controlled by the value of the dollar, but it's no longer part of their digital system. So it makes me think maybe that there's part of the strategy in keeping the market as it is for as long as possible to keep everyone's assets in there until at a certain time when that flip switches.
Seth Holehouse:They say, oh, there's been this collapse. And, you know, oh, a, I mean, it works perfectly in line with the idea of a central bank digital currency. But we're at that point, then instead of just say, you know, you have your stocks, you know, through say a Vanguard brokerage account, hypothetically. So instead of saying, oh my gosh, we took a 30% hit on our account or 50% hit in our account. Let's move those into other assets.
Seth Holehouse:Let's move into bonds or whatever it is that they say, look, actually, this this actual brokerage brokerage has filed chapter 11. They've gone under. So they don't even give you the opportunity to move into other assets and take a hit, take the loss, move out of there. That maybe it's just it's just the ideas that everything is gets converted. It gets it gets pulled in, and they they take ownership of it.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, it seems frightening, but these are the same people that, you know, behind the pandemic and behind everything wrong that we're seeing in the world today.
Speaker 2:It makes me wonder, how did we get to this point?
Seth Holehouse:Good question.
Speaker 2:Did did we give up ownership of what we own and not even know about it? I mean, literally, how how in the world did that happen? But, you just brought up the pandemic, the same people doing this. Right? So I heard this quote from Klaus Schwab a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2:Actually, it was maybe a week ago. But it is. The pandemic was a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world. Professor Klaus Schwab, founder and executive chairman, World Economic Forum. Okay.
Speaker 2:How sick of a person is this? How sick of a statement is that COVID killed countless millions of people. The boosters, who knows what it did to their future health, right? You've got lives that were changed forever, businesses that were shut down, shelter in place, I mean, financial disaster all over the world. And what does he say about that?
Speaker 2:COVID was a rare window of opportunity to reflect and reimagine our reset of our world. It's like opportunity? Sick. I mean, that's a twisted statement, right? But it got me thinking that then was a test.
Speaker 2:He just said it. It was this rare window of opportunity to reimagine and reset our world. It was the test to see how far could we stretch the public, global public, US public, for them to actually say, Okay, we'll give up our freedoms. So COVID was a test, but the test for what? The only thing really bigger than your health is maybe your ability to live, your finances, your ability to buy or sell when you want to, with whom you want to, when you want to, I mean, all of that.
Speaker 2:So I do think that that's the shift that's coming next. They realized it didn't take much, Seth, to have US population or the global population just give up. It was the flu. It a fancy name for a flu. And they gave up all of their freedom.
Speaker 2:So what comes next? Once they realized you didn't have to actually go very far, you just strike enough fear into somebody, they'll give up all their freedoms. Well, what comes next? Seth, you can't buy or sell anything. You can't feed your family.
Speaker 2:You can't pay your utilities. You can't pay your mortgage unless you go into this unified ledger system. It's like, fine, we'll give up. Just let us live. Mean, it's not that big of a stretch in my mind for them to say, this isn't going to be all that hard for them.
Speaker 2:You take away the ability for people to buy or sell, and people will give up almost anything. Right? And from what this gentleman said on that documentary, it's already kind of been done. They're just waiting for the spark to actually truly then really, really take I mean, that's how I understand that. So this is why what you and I talk about every week is so important to have tangible real assets that are out of that digital system, that are not part of this unified ledger.
Speaker 2:That's not see, a real estate property is part of this unified ledger. Why? Because there's actually a tax associated with it. You don't pay your tax, you lose it. Like a gold and silver transaction, it's private.
Speaker 2:You're not attached to property taxes or anything like that when you own it. So when you have it, you have it in your pocket. You can use it as a de facto currency to barter with, trade with, use. In a world where you don't want to play their game, at least you have something, right? So this is part of the freedom component of allocating into things like silver and gold that are tangible, not paper, not an ETF, not a mining check, not a mutual fund, none of that.
Speaker 2:All of that's part of that goofy system that they just described. Tangible real assets that you can take delivery of are. See, when they were talking about the custodians of the assets in that documentary, I almost got goosebumps. It's like, sweet, because the depository that we use is singular ownership and segregated starts. They were talking about segregated assets.
Speaker 2:That's not really segregated if it's not singular ownership. You gave up the ownership to the big financial institution. So who cares if it's segregated? You gave up ownership. See, the depository that we use is singular ownership, meaning nobody has a right to a claim to the underlying asset except you.
Speaker 2:You're paying rent for a safety deposit box basically at a vault for all intents and purposes. That's the segregated part. The ownership piece contractual on on the contract is this is singular to you and you only. Nobody has a right or claim to it. They can't lease it out.
Speaker 2:They can't oversell it. They can't put it in a pool. They can't I mean, this is why what we're doing, I think, is so incredibly important and safeguards people's life savings.
Seth Holehouse:Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply.
Seth Holehouse:You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food.
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Seth Holehouse:And it's just interesting seeing it come full circle because there's different reasons people make financial moves. You know, one might be, okay, hey, the stock markets hitting some rough territory or, you know, the the jobs report came back bad and okay, hey, we're gonna pull out of that and reallocate into something else. And, or it's like, okay, we're only making 4% per year on this, I will make 6% over here, where it's really it's the minutiae. But what I see from this from the big, the big picture is, it's really a simple equation. What systems are they controlling?
Seth Holehouse:And if if our assets are sitting inside of a system that ultimately where it it's basically what it is is that you're you're trusting the deep state with your assets. It's like the cabal comes to your door. And he's like, and they're like, it's this entity. He says, hey, I know you've got $10,000 left of money for your whole family. Tell you what, how about I'll borrow it
Speaker 2:from you?
Seth Holehouse:How about you lend it to me, and I'll keep it safe for you? That's really what it is. Like, that's where we're at now that these systems that feed into that BIS and feed into that unified ledger, they've already underwritten, they've already made all the rules and changes to say that you don't even own it. So it makes me actually, you know, I am a big proponent of gold and silver, and I but I want make sure something I believe in. And to me, this makes me even more, like, hard on it.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, no, this is like, to me, this is it. This is the asset that will survive that type of a of a collapsing system where they just seize everything. So, Kirk, where is the best place for people to get ahold of you? I know we've gold with seth.com if they want to reach out to you. We've got the website here.
Seth Holehouse:There's a form on there. Phone number. What's the process? If someone wants to, you know, figure out what it looks like to move some assets over into precious metals, whether in a storage facility or shipped to their home, what do they do?
Speaker 2:Gold with Seth is easy. Just fill out the online form, and you set up an appointment with one of our consultants. Easy enough. Or you can call us if you want to not fill out the form. Just call us.
Speaker 2:(720) 605-3900. 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 0. Just say Seth sent you. Same same end result. Set up an appointment with one of our consultants.
Speaker 2:We'll figure out what you have IRA, non IRA. Do you want delivery of at home? Do you want to store it? So many options, right? But we want to hear your needs, hear your desires, hear your fears, and then we'll strategically map out a plan to get you out of the path of the hurricane and into safe ground.
Speaker 2:And that's what my team will do for you. And then that's truly where our journey begins, not ends. Because moving forward, I don't expect anybody to watch the markets like a hawk like we do. This is what we do. Right?
Speaker 2:So then we'll always let you know when it's time to buy, sell, reallocate, get out of dodge, do whatever needs to be done, and go from there.
Seth Holehouse:Perfect. Well, Kirk, those links in the funnel will be in the description. Again, it's it's always great having you on. I appreciate what you're doing. Thank you for being part of what do what we're doing.
Seth Holehouse:And if I don't talk to you, have a very, very Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2:You too, brother. You and your family both.
Seth Holehouse:Alright. Take care.