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OpenAI's has launched Sora 2, a text-to-video model that combines realism and interactivity, allowing users to create videos with their likenesses. 

We explore the Cameo feature and tackle ethical concerns around likenesses and misinformation. OpenAI also released a new social media platform for sharing Sora-generated content and explore its implications for audience engagement and the creative industry.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 The Launch of Sora 2
1:50 The Physics Engine Behind the Magic
4:02 The Viral Cameo Feature
9:10 New Social Media App Introduction
12:17 Onboarding Experience Explained
13:17 Mixed Reactions
16:40 The Future of Social Media
19:56 Creative Use Cases
23:40 Marketing Potential
24:48 Closing Thoughts

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RESOURCES

Josh: https://x.com/Josh_Kale

Ejaaz: https://x.com/cryptopunk7213

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Josh:
Just yesterday openai released the most cutting-edge

Josh:
brilliant video generation model that has ever existed

Josh:
in history the videos are unbelievably realistic they sound real for the first

Josh:
time there is dialogue and you can even copy yourself and clone yourself into

Josh:
this new application as an ai version of you it's weird it's creepy it's a little

Josh:
bizarre but it's very effective and the way that they packaged it is really

Josh:
interesting we're going

Josh:
to get into all that but you just before we do i want you to kind of introduce

Josh:
everyone what is sora 2 what is this new software this new model all about i.

Ejaaz:
Think the the videos speak for themselves we're playing a

Ejaaz:
little recording here from this is the launch video which which shows some of

Ejaaz:
the videos so you can see a mixture of different uh crazy things of like a man

Ejaaz:
riding two horses at once a dog in space eating tennis balls crazy stuff but

Ejaaz:
also some super realistic stuff as well, Josh.

Ejaaz:
Like, as you said, you could feature yourself or your friends in it,

Ejaaz:
scaling a mountain if you've never climbed before, or skating with a cat above

Ejaaz:
your head, as you're seeing on the screen right now.

Ejaaz:
Just crazy things like this. So this is OpenAI's latest and greatest text-to-video model.

Ejaaz:
Now, if that sounds familiar, it's because we've spoken about Google's VO3 in the past.

Ejaaz:
This is OpenAI's punchback and response to that. And Josh, I wanted to hate it

Ejaaz:
it's really, really good. It's impressive. It's really, it's really impressive.

Ejaaz:
And it's impressive for a few different reasons.

Ejaaz:
First and foremost, the graphics are insane.

Ejaaz:
They're like super realistic. It reminds me of like, you know,

Ejaaz:
do you remember the Will Smith spaghetti meme or the test rather,

Ejaaz:
where we would run it through like the early versions of mid journey and it

Ejaaz:
would just look so ridiculous.

Ejaaz:
Now, I actually did the spaghetti test myself.

Josh:
It looks super.

Ejaaz:
Realistic so the graphics are insane but josh the physics have you tested out

Ejaaz:
the physics for this thing i actually have a demo that i want to demonstrate

Ejaaz:
here um look at this this is not a real

Josh:
Person yeah this is this is one of the coolest parts for me i

Josh:
think we're going to get into a lot of reasons why most people actually hate this

Josh:
release but i think one of the reasons why i love this release

Josh:
and one of the things i think this model is kind of disguised

Josh:
as is this really high-end physics engine where

Josh:
it really has this deep understanding of the world around us and as result is

Josh:
able to generate this unbelievable content i mean this

Josh:
is the textbook glass test for people who are listening when you pour water

Josh:
in a glass and an arrow is behind it facing one direction upon the

Josh:
water reflecting against the arrow it should flip directions and

Josh:
it passes the glass reflection test so what this shows is there

Josh:
actually is this very deep understanding of physics and i think that's

Josh:
that's one of the biggest driving forces to making this model feel so

Josh:
real i think as humans we're kind of just used to these expectations

Josh:
we have of how the world works and when they break that's when the videos start

Josh:
to feel fake this very much does not break uh it looks really good through and

Josh:
through so in addition to this amazing physics engine there was one additional

Josh:
feature that was also equally as exciting for me at least which is audio and

Josh:
dialogue ijaz please walk us through yeah.

Ejaaz:
So uh in the opening trailer that open air released to demonstrate this product

Ejaaz:
uh that you can see on your screens now if you're watching it says everything

Ejaaz:
you are about to see and hear was generated by Sora 2. Let's watch a quick clip.

Josh:
One year ago, Sora 1 redefined what was possible with moving images.

Josh:
Today, we're announcing the Sora app.

Ejaaz:
This isn't Sam, by the way, but it sounds like him and it looks like him.

Josh:
It's the most powerful imagination engine.

Ejaaz:
So the point is, if you wanted to get a character to speak and say something,

Ejaaz:
you can type up the dialogue.

Ejaaz:
If you wanted sounds and effects that you can hear that matches the environment

Ejaaz:
that you've described or the video that you've generated, it automatically slots

Ejaaz:
in. And I've tried this in a few different ways since I started.

Ejaaz:
I said, I asked it to put me in a comedy skit and it added me into a comedy

Ejaaz:
skit where there was an audience laughing, jeering or booing me off stage.

Ejaaz:
I got it to get me to scale a mountain and you could hear like the rocks kind

Ejaaz:
of like crumbling so the audio is also super cool but josh um i would actually

Ejaaz:
say the craziest feature that i saw or that i think has made this thing go viral

Ejaaz:
is this thing called cameo have you heard about it

Josh:
Cameo is my favorite part. In testing yesterday, after all the time that I spent

Josh:
with it, the one thing that I uniquely took away was, oh my God,

Josh:
it looks just like me. It looks just like Sam. It looks just like you.

Josh:
I made this like funny collaborative video with you just to check it out.

Josh:
And it looks amazing. And I think this is the first time where a company has

Josh:
done what Google was able to do with Nano Banana, and that's create character

Josh:
continuity, where you can actually inject yourself into the AI content.

Josh:
And it looks good. It's not perfect, but it's close. and i think that's what

Josh:
was so interesting about this release as a whole and that's what's making it

Josh:
kind of go viral over the last 24 hours is the fact that you can inject yourself

Josh:
into the video itself and we have some funny examples of this right that we're showing here.

Ejaaz:
Yeah i mean just to kind of summarize what this does is you can basically add

Ejaaz:
yourself uh into any video that you want to create so you could be the protagonist

Ejaaz:
you could be the side character or support character it's whatever you want

Ejaaz:
but what's cool is you could also feature your friends or anyone that you follow,

Ejaaz:
maybe your heroes or the influencers that you'd like. And that's where it gets really crazy.

Ejaaz:
It kind of like the way I was thinking about this, Josh, is it kind of breaks

Ejaaz:
the barrier of knowing someone, even if you either know them directly or you

Ejaaz:
don't know them, you can feel closer to that person that you followed or whatever that might be.

Ejaaz:
So in this example that I have on screen, this guy who has never met Sam Altman

Ejaaz:
in his life decided to create a video where he goes on an adventure with Sam.

Ejaaz:
And it looks super realistically, Sam follows him all around.

Ejaaz:
He interacts with OpenAI employees, which again, he's never met.

Ejaaz:
And what that resulted in was Sam retweeting it and saying, haha,

Ejaaz:
Gabriel, this is hilarious. Like we should hang out at some point in real life, right?

Ejaaz:
So it's just this kind of like weird interaction or medium that I've never seen before.

Ejaaz:
But there's also some questionable examples of this um in this video that i'm

Ejaaz:
showing on screen right now uh someone cameoed sam altman uh shoplifting in

Ejaaz:
target right can you please turn

Josh:
The audio on for this.

Ejaaz:
This is so good oh yeah absolutely yeah i want people to hear

Josh:
Please, I really need this for Sora inference. This video is too good.

Josh:
That's great. And for those listening, it's Sam Allman.

Josh:
He's in a Target and it's like CCTV footage of him stealing a GPU and trying

Josh:
to run out the front door. It looks real.

Josh:
If they, Ejaz, if they would have led their promo efforts with this video,

Josh:
if they just would have dropped this without context, that would have been amazing

Josh:
because it's so good. It's questionable.

Josh:
We're like, if I were to see this without understanding that they had a new

Josh:
video model, it would take me a second to figure out it's not real. It looks really good.

Ejaaz:
I think you also touch upon an important point, Josh, which is you found this video funny, right?

Ejaaz:
Like, you know, it's AI, but it also looks super realistic. And so you're like,

Ejaaz:
Sam shoplifting in Target. That's something I would never expect to see.

Ejaaz:
And the point is memes are so viral and OpenAI realized that.

Ejaaz:
We're going to talk about a bit more about the social app that they just created.

Ejaaz:
But I think the point around them allowing you to cameo anyone,

Ejaaz:
including yourself in any video, means that they instantly have this viral network

Ejaaz:
effect where people want to watch the content that is on their feed because

Ejaaz:
it's created by the friends,

Ejaaz:
that people that they know or that they follow and their friends are doing the same thing.

Ejaaz:
So it has this kind of viral effect where you just kind of want to see more and more content.

Josh:
And Idris, this isn't the first time we've heard the word Cameo used in this

Josh:
way. Are you familiar with the Cameo platform? Oh yeah.

Josh:
So the way it works is for the people who aren't familiar, you,

Josh:
you pay influencers or famous people or celebrities a certain amount of money

Josh:
and they will record a video of themselves saying something nice to someone.

Josh:
So they'll be like, hey, happy birthday, whoever.

Josh:
And like, it's normally a funny gift or you'll see funny memes about it.

Josh:
But this is the AI version of that cameo where if you're a celebrity,

Josh:
it's probably very effective to and lucrative even to insert yourself into the

Josh:
platform. Not that you'll make money, but just use your likeness.

Josh:
I mean, I have seen Sam Altman on my timeline more in the last 24 hours than

Josh:
I have in my entire life, because it's funny to see him doing things that are out of character.

Josh:
And if you want publicity, I mean, this is a great opportunity.

Josh:
In the settings, when you create your cameo, your digital avatar,

Josh:
you're able to set the privacy settings.

Josh:
So you could allow someone to either not collaborate with you,

Josh:
only mutuals can collaborate or openly collaborate.

Josh:
And for the ones that have open collaboration, like Sam, it's really fun.

Josh:
I kind of loved watching it because you see this person who's normally very

Josh:
stoic, very proper in his portrayal around the company doing goofy things like

Josh:
stealing gpus from target so yeah i think cameo is pretty cool.

Ejaaz:
Yeah and of course there's also the doomer takes which

Ejaaz:
i've seen a lot of over the last 24 hours which is like you're stealing someone's

Ejaaz:
ip you can put them in a precarious situation or spread misinformation all of

Ejaaz:
that being correct and i think it's going to come on to open ai's shoulders

Ejaaz:
to basically moderate and curate a lot of the content and make sure there is

Ejaaz:
no copyright infringement.

Ejaaz:
Fun fact, actually, OpenAI announced when they launched Sora 2 that

Ejaaz:
probably using a lot of copyright material and if

Ejaaz:
someone that owns the ip of something that they're seeing for

Ejaaz:
example super mario wants to sue them uh they

Ejaaz:
have the option to opt out they just need to reach out to them but very aggressive

Ejaaz:
stance that that sam is taking here but josh um the other headline news about

Ejaaz:
this sora 2 launch isn't about the video model itself but how they surface it

Ejaaz:
to users they created a brand new social media app

Josh:
This is where things get a little weird um because you just you'll remember

Josh:
just like two days ago we were just like hey this new meta feature that creates

Josh:
ai content that kind of looks like tiktok we don't really like,

Josh:
unfortunately or fortunately i guess depending who you're asking open ai

Josh:
did the same for this release where in order to access sora

Josh:
2 you actually need to download a new app get a beta code

Josh:
sign up and then scroll an algorithmic feed

Josh:
that surfaces these videos that we've been showing and it

Josh:
is amazing tech but an

Josh:
interesting way of delivering it now i do want to give open ai credit their

Josh:
advantage is that they almost always close the product loop so

Josh:
like they had gpt and it kind of crystallized into chat gpt now they have video

Josh:
gen and it's kind of crystallizing into sora so they're taking the tech and

Josh:
they're doing what google has kind of failed to do which just create good products

Josh:
around it to like lock it in its place but this product seems a little questionable

Josh:
I think we've kind of notoriously been against the AI slop.

Josh:
This is an AI exclusive platform.

Josh:
Basically, you sign up and you are only allowed to post AI generated videos,

Josh:
whether it be with your face or without.

Josh:
The entire algorithm is just designed to get you to scroll this feed.

Josh:
And we actually have an example of this right now. But there's a cool additional

Josh:
thing that we saw on top of this.

Josh:
I don't know if this is the first time, but one of the earlier times,

Josh:
which is sign in with ChatGPTHS.

Ejaaz:
I haven't seen this out in the wild just yet. I think they offered it to a few

Ejaaz:
third-party developers, but this is the first instance where we see a really

Ejaaz:
curated signup process.

Ejaaz:
For those of you listening, when you log on to the app, you sign on with ChatGPT

Ejaaz:
or Gmail or whatever that might be.

Ejaaz:
And I would say it takes under 90 seconds to sign up.

Ejaaz:
The coolest part is what I would consider a five-second facial scan and voice recognition.

Ejaaz:
You're seeing it on screen right now where Josh is looking at a bunch of numbers.

Ejaaz:
He's reading them out and then it's asking him to direct his head in particular

Ejaaz:
direction so it gets all kind of like angles of your face so it knows how to portray you

Ejaaz:
And after that, you're done. It can basically put you in any video and make

Ejaaz:
it sound like you and look like you.

Ejaaz:
Everything from like you jumping up high on a trampoline to you speaking and

Ejaaz:
it mimicking your lips and accent perfectly. It's pretty insane.

Ejaaz:
So Josh is like retaking it now. I think a lot of people actually retake this

Ejaaz:
scene because it affects how high fidelity it is.

Ejaaz:
And then once you're in the app, you'll see the screen here where you can basically

Ejaaz:
define where you want your content to be spread, whether it's to only yourself,

Ejaaz:
people that you approve, or everyone.

Ejaaz:
And I've kind of gone rogue, Josh, and I've gone with everyone.

Ejaaz:
But that's the onboarding process. Super simple and easy.

Ejaaz:
And they've done the viral thing where I think each person that logs on gets

Ejaaz:
like five invites and you just send it to five more people and then they get five more invites.

Ejaaz:
So I don't know how many users they've taken on board, but it's a pretty slick process.

Josh:
The most amazing part about the onboarding process was how easy it is to clone yourself.

Josh:
So that process that you saw where you scan your face, it has two purposes.

Josh:
One is to actually verify that it's you. So they're diagnosing the fact that

Josh:
you're actually a real person and you're not trying to clone someone else that isn't you.

Josh:
And then the other is, as you're saying these three numbers,

Josh:
which serve as verification, they also serve as voice identification.

Josh:
And using just three numbers that you say out loud, they are able to generate

Josh:
a pretty accurate version of your voice to then use in the videos.

Josh:
So I think the onboarding process was very clean, very slick very impressive

Josh:
normally when you're feeding ai models data to emulate your voice you need to give them like

Josh:
quite a bit of words, at least a couple of sentences. This was three numbers.

Josh:
So whatever magic they're doing, it's working. It works really well.

Josh:
And I guess now we can kind of get into takes, right, of what people are saying

Josh:
about this, because it's been a mixed bag of reviews from people all over the internet, right?

Ejaaz:
Before we get into takes, I just want to say I wanted to hate this product, Josh.

Ejaaz:
To your point, we spoke about Meta's version of this that they announced a few

Ejaaz:
days ago. And we were like, this is the end of entertainment.

Ejaaz:
Like everyone's going to read or watch garbage slop and our attention spans

Ejaaz:
are going to dwindle to zero.

Ejaaz:
But after I started using the product, I was like, I can see why I would want

Ejaaz:
to engage with my friends more with this.

Ejaaz:
I can see how this could potentially be a productive thing, a very creative thing.

Ejaaz:
And I think Justine Moore summarizes the difference between whether this new

Ejaaz:
social media app is competing with Meta or whether it's competing with TikTok.

Ejaaz:
She goes, OpenAI is building a social network, like the OG Instagram,

Ejaaz:
and not a content network, like TikTok.

Ejaaz:
They're letting users generate video memes starring themselves,

Ejaaz:
their friends, and their pets, and it sounds like your feed will be heavily

Ejaaz:
weighted to show content from friends.

Ejaaz:
This feels like a more promising approach. You're not competing against the

Ejaaz:
other video generator players because you're allowing people to create a new type of content.

Ejaaz:
And the videos are inherently more interesting funny engaging

Ejaaz:
because they star the people you know and i i can't help

Ejaaz:
but agree with this um i don't know whether featuring myself

Ejaaz:
in a video uh makes me like it more because it's me and maybe that's egocentric

Ejaaz:
and i need to discuss that with my therapist later or maybe it's because it

Ejaaz:
makes it feel more personal and at home and i can share it with friends because

Ejaaz:
they know me and i think it would be funny to kind of joke about it in in some

Ejaaz:
kind of way josh do you do you agree or disagree with this take

Josh:
Uh, I kind of disagree. I don't think this is sticky. I don't think this is durable.

Josh:
I think it's interesting because of the novelty, um, because this is the first

Josh:
time you've been able to do this stuff.

Josh:
Um, as this becomes normalized, as in like 24 hours later, I find myself being.

Josh:
Decreasingly excited about it.

Josh:
In fact, I haven't even opened up the app today, even though I probably spent

Josh:
like three hours on it yesterday.

Josh:
So I feel the drop-off hitting very hard.

Josh:
Um, the novelty wearing off. I hope that they're able to

Josh:
figure out some sort of durable solution but at the same time

Josh:
sam he he says here um in response to criticism

Josh:
where the person who he's responding to says sam allman

Josh:
two weeks ago said we need seven trillion dollars and 10 gigawatts secure

Josh:
cancer and then sam allman today is saying we are

Josh:
launching ai slot videos marketed as personalized ads so

Josh:
this is there's we're getting mixed signals from

Josh:
sam and sam's response to this which i appreciate the fact

Josh:
that he responded he said i get the vibe here but we do

Josh:
mostly need the capital to build ai that can do science

Josh:
and for sure we are focused on agi with almost all

Josh:
of our research effort it is also nice to show people cool new

Josh:
tech and products along the way make them smile and hopefully make

Josh:
some money given all that compute need i think he he is kind of thinking about

Josh:
this in the sense that he needs to make a product he wants to try to go viral

Josh:
they need to raise money they want more users and this is a good attempt at

Josh:
that ejs if you remember the the companions from grok and how viral that went

Josh:
when they launched it it was a different strategy,

Josh:
but it was a viral strategy in order to get Grok into more people's hands,

Josh:
get more daily active users, get more people paying.

Josh:
And I think this is probably a similar strategy to that, that they're pursuing

Josh:
in parallel with this 10 gigawatts and $7 trillion to cure cancer.

Josh:
Do you have similar takes, different takes?

Ejaaz:
Yeah, I just think it's a necessary evil. I want to be aware of my biases when

Ejaaz:
it comes to this, because in the example of Grok Companions,

Ejaaz:
I think Elon's an amazing builder.

Ejaaz:
And he's doing so many other cool things, right? He's helping us get to space,

Ejaaz:
he's helping beam 5G anywhere in the world, and many other things.

Ejaaz:
But he's also building, you know, these AI companions that can kind of like

Ejaaz:
take over your attention.

Ejaaz:
And the question that becomes like, why is he doing this? I think probably part

Ejaaz:
of the reason is, you know, he needs to appease shareholders,

Ejaaz:
he needs to bring in money somehow.

Ejaaz:
And one of the main ways to do it is attention. Attention pays for everything,

Ejaaz:
right? You get a subscription and off you go.

Ejaaz:
But I do think that there is part of Sam Altman, Elon Musk, and now Zuckerberg

Ejaaz:
launching these slot machines, as people like to call them, that are trying

Ejaaz:
to create a new social medium.

Ejaaz:
I mean, like, Josh, do you honestly believe that social media is going to look

Ejaaz:
the same that it does right now in five to 10 years' time?

Ejaaz:
I don't know about you, but my answer is no, right?

Ejaaz:
We're going to be in a world where there's going to be a lot of AR,

Ejaaz:
VR, and AI-generated things. We're going to exist in that world.

Ejaaz:
So the question then becomes, what does that world look like and what types

Ejaaz:
of content are served to people?

Ejaaz:
I think the other more nefarious take here is we may not be the ultimate audience

Ejaaz:
that they're designing for, Josh.

Ejaaz:
We've spoken a lot about how these big companies that control social media networks,

Ejaaz:
have teams specifically engineered around how to hook you on things.

Ejaaz:
I think the nefarious take on this is these Gen Zers and younger generations

Ejaaz:
that are growing up are used to the short form content. They've grown up on

Ejaaz:
it. They don't watch long form content.

Ejaaz:
I don't know the last time a kid under 15 has said like, you know,

Ejaaz:
I've watched a movie that's longer than an hour and a half. Probably not, right?

Ejaaz:
So I think they're capitalizing on this trend. I'm not saying it's good,

Ejaaz:
but I think from a business perspective, they're probably like,

Ejaaz:
this is the social media content that people want to see versus a black and

Ejaaz:
white biopic that is three and a half hours long.

Josh:
Yeah, that sounds about right. I think at worst, this is another TikTok,

Josh:
Instagram, Facebook feed. I think at best, this is a really cool,

Josh:
high-fidelity physics engine in disguise that is just being wrapped in this

Josh:
wrapper so they can make some money, get some users.

Josh:
But we have some memes and some other takes, right? What is this on screen here?

Ejaaz:
Yeah, this is the new doom cycle for everyone, if they want to wear.

Ejaaz:
So you start off with Meta introducing Vibes, an AI video feed.

Ejaaz:
Now you have OpenAI introducing Sora 2, an AI video feed. And it says, you are here.

Ejaaz:
And then next it has Google's probably going to release Viotube Shorts, an AI video feed.

Ejaaz:
And X finally is going to release Vine 2, an AI video feed.

Ejaaz:
The point being is, it seems like every company is trending towards some kind

Ejaaz:
of new social media feed that capitalizes on AI generated video specifically

Ejaaz:
because it's so easily digestible and can go so viral and can get more users on board,

Ejaaz:
as we've said. So yeah, I just thought it was a funny take.

Josh:
So some people hate it. Some people love it. But there are some cool mediums

Josh:
that can be explored. You have a couple of examples that you've prepared for

Josh:
us. Can you walk through this first one?

Ejaaz:
Yeah. So I've seen some really creative ways that people have used Sora too.

Ejaaz:
One of these examples, someone basically added a browser rendered HTML code

Ejaaz:
as the prompt, basically adding a bunch of code to create a website.

Ejaaz:
And the video model ended up not only creating the website,

Ejaaz:
but scrolling through the website and some click-throughs

Ejaaz:
for that user so kind of shifting the

Ejaaz:
use of this tool from just purely entertainment into

Ejaaz:
something that's quite productive you can create not just static

Ejaaz:
mock-ups but real life mock-ups that you can interact with which i thought was

Ejaaz:
super cool um this other video i need to use the sound for this one was someone

Ejaaz:
exploring whether you they could uh play a copyrighted song uh through a generated

Ejaaz:
video and the answer is Hell yes is the answer.

Ejaaz:
I don't know how OpenAI is going to deal with all the... Yeah,

Ejaaz:
I don't know how OpenAI is going to deal with all the...

Ejaaz:
Lawsuits which i definitely see coming that way but i'm glad that he took a bold approach

Josh:
Um so it sounds like it's trying to emulate the sound and the vibe and the cadence

Josh:
of the words but those lyrics are all wrong that's not actually the lyrics of

Josh:
the song so while i recognize the song it's trying to make it's not the real

Josh:
lyrics so i wonder is it the.

Ejaaz:
Same is it the same tune joshua is it something completely different

Josh:
No it's the same chords same melody same cadence in the singing it's just interesting

Josh:
the words are all wrong so that's that's just like an interesting observation

Josh:
having known the song that like okay they're close they're not quite copying

Josh:
it but like immediately i know what song they were trying to copy so that's

Josh:
just a funny side note i think we we also have one more example yeah.

Ejaaz:
We have one more bob ross maybe so we have uh the style of a classic bob ross

Ejaaz:
episode except this was never filmed and this dialogue is not real at all in

Ejaaz:
fact he's references at the end the the infamous uh could a hundred men beat

Ejaaz:
a gorilla or could a thousand men beat a gorilla

Josh:
It's pretty funny you can really get creative with

Josh:
it and i think what we're starting to see today day two is people getting creative

Josh:
with it and pressing the boundaries of what's possible infringing not

Josh:
infringing on copyright but you know using references that are popular in culture

Josh:
i've seen a lot of pokemon examples as well where pikachu is just everywhere

Josh:
like infiltrating d-day um causing havoc robbing banks a whole bunch of stuff

Josh:
so it's been funny to see the examples um but ijes you had a real life example

Josh:
that happened last night, right?

Ejaaz:
Yeah. So yesterday when this released, we got invites and I was super excited to use it.

Ejaaz:
And my girlfriend heard all this noise and was like, you know,

Ejaaz:
what the hell are you excited about?

Ejaaz:
And I showed her some Sora videos and she was like, I need to use this immediately

Ejaaz:
because she leads marketing at a big company. And she was like,

Ejaaz:
I could do so much with this tool.

Ejaaz:
And so I sent her an invite and she played around with it for about two to three hours, Josh.

Ejaaz:
And then we went our separate ways because we had to go to different And she

Ejaaz:
went to this networking event, which had, I think, 200 of the top CMOs at some

Ejaaz:
crazy brands and companies ranging across fashion, consumer products, all that kind of stuff.

Ejaaz:
And they went around the table, each explaining about a bit of content that

Ejaaz:
they watched recently that they enjoyed.

Ejaaz:
And because Sora had just released, she was the only one to speak about Sora.

Ejaaz:
And the only way I could describe the reaction was she was inundated with people

Ejaaz:
asking for invite codes and for her to generate video prompts that they had

Ejaaz:
come up with as she explained what they could do.

Ejaaz:
And the point I want to make around this is, I think we're underestimating how

Ejaaz:
much this kind of a tool is desired by people that are in marketing PR or promotional effects.

Ejaaz:
And I think that whilst we view Sora 2 as purely an entertainment platform,

Ejaaz:
I think there are wider, more enterprise or business-like effects that could

Ejaaz:
end up creating quite a lot of value for open AI.

Josh:
I mean, you could even use this for sound design. You don't even need to use

Josh:
the video, create a song.

Josh:
You could copy a song without actually infringing on copyright.

Josh:
There's a lot of utility to the model, which is why I'm like,

Josh:
I'm not sure how to feel because the model is fantastic.

Josh:
It is so good. It's just wrapped up in this kind of like kind of gross looking

Josh:
wrapper, which is the AI slot factory.

Josh:
There's one interesting thing about the application in the Sora app that we

Josh:
didn't mention is that for the first time that I'm aware of,

Josh:
you can actually type to the AI what you want your feed to look like,

Josh:
and then the feed will algorithmically readjust based on your prompt.

Josh:
So they are doing something novel in that sense where you can choose your own

Josh:
feed. You can kind of curate the experience you want.

Josh:
But whether that experience is something I want to lean into and fully support, TBD.

Josh:
Like, I don't know. I don't know if it's going to be a serious problem because

Josh:
I don't know how long this will last.

Josh:
But I think the actual physical, like digital model is fantastic.

Josh:
And I hope that people figure out ways to creatively extract value out of that?

Ejaaz:
It's something cool. It's something novel. But I think they need to introduce

Ejaaz:
a few new sticky loops before this becomes like a truly viral thing.

Ejaaz:
But that is all on the agenda today.

Ejaaz:
Well, thank you for listening. I hope you guys enjoyed today's episode.

Ejaaz:
As usual, Josh and I, we feel the vibes on things.

Ejaaz:
When there's a new product launch that we get super excited about,

Ejaaz:
especially ones that we can use in real time,

Ejaaz:
we go hammer and tong to give you the

Ejaaz:
best content and update and our views on it as

Ejaaz:
soon as we can but you know what's more valuable than our views your views the

Ejaaz:
feedback that we've seen and heard from you guys via comments likes dms sharing

Ejaaz:
has been invaluable and i just want to encourage you guys to please keep doing

Ejaaz:
it the feedback is good the feedback is bad let us know dm us and share it with

Ejaaz:
all your friends and we'll see you next time

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