Clydesdale Media Roundtable - It the Master's and Teen's Turn This Week!

We talk about the Masters and Teens Games, Who is the PFAA and who do they actually represent.  Plus all of the stuff going on with the Crew!!!

What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

what's going on everybody

welcome to the cloud show

media roundtable where we

have amy cat and myself

here just to hang out with

you for about 30 to 40

minutes today uh beautiful

hot day here in ohio and uh

uh we've got some exciting

stuff happening this week

at least for me I'm super

excited about and uh

Super stoked that we get to

move on to a new

competition and hopefully

help us move forward as a community.

So what's going on with you guys?

Well,

I've been dipping my toe back into work.

As you can see,

I'm here in my lovely

kitchen right now at work.

This is my prep week to prep

for teacher prep week to

prep for the kids prep.

So that's my meeting to prep

for the meeting for the meeting.

Yep.

I mean, it's, and it's funny,

like I'll knock off three

things on my list and then

three more things like I've

like added to the list.

So it's like,

my mind is going so many

different places.

So it's nice to take a break

and talk about something else.

Yeah.

I hate the meetings for the

meeting for the meeting.

Yeah.

I hate meetings, period.

Me too.

And I also hate email.

So I get when people are like,

this should have been an email.

But nobody reads emails

anymore because we're

inundated with emails.

Yeah.

It's so funny.

And this is no knock on.

So I've been communicating

with the people at Legends

who are running the

CrossFit Masters games.

And all I want to know is, like,

when check-in starts tomorrow.

Mm-hmm.

And I've sent emails and I

get answers back with a lot of details,

but not the detail I asked about.

So I have like a lot of

information that they keep

coming back to.

But I also know like it's

got to be like pure hell

right now trying to set this up,

trying to get everything

ready for tomorrow,

all that kind of stuff.

And so I understand.

But really,

I just I just want to know like

when check in starts.

Could you ask an athlete?

Do they know?

So I finally did.

I reached out to an athlete and said,

when are you guys told it's going on?

And they're like,

we can come anytime between 10 a.m.

and 8 p.m.

Yeah.

Wow.

That's a long time.

That's a long day.

That's a big window.

So I hate to be the

volunteer running that sign-in desk.

But yeah, but super excited to be there.

It's just,

there's a lot of like questions

I have about what's going to happen.

And because it's three floors,

one with a professional rig,

one with an A-frame rig and

one with no rig.

and they're going to be running events.

And so depending on your age group,

you will run in a different

order than maybe another

age group because you're

just rotating the three floors.

So like 39 may start on floor one,

40 to 44 may start on floor two.

Fascinating.

That's a logistical

nightmare to think about.

Corey called out where I got

the information from.

He said, I was going to say,

I bet Rudy knows.

Well, I bet Lynette knows.

Lynette filled me in.

Yeah.

That's always a struggle

having multiple floors on a competition,

you know, for a competition.

Scott,

we know all too well what that's

like at MFC when we tried to do that.

And the only person I know

that does it really well,

aside from the CrossFit Games,

would be the MAAC.

So that team has always had two floors.

That was sort of a novel

idea back in the day when some smaller,

you know,

some larger local competition

started to get bigger.

They always had two floors

and they managed to make it work better.

And TFX always had multiple

floors as well and does a

pretty good job with that.

But if it's your first time doing it,

it's definitely a challenge.

I forgot you brought your

phone voice with you today.

Oh, yeah, this is right.

Guys, this is day one, two, three.

This is day five of this phenomenon.

And on Saturday,

I was lucky enough to

attend a CrossFit

competition where luckily

all I had to do was scoring

because if I had to judge

or compete or anything else.

I mean, I literally had a post-it note.

They set me up in the office

of the gym and I literally

had a post-it note that said,

I have laryngitis.

Because people were asking me questions,

you know, and I was like, like this.

And then the other post-it note I had was,

I don't know, I don't work here.

Because I don't know how

many times people wanted,

they needed to let me know

that there wasn't toilet

paper in the bathroom.

Somebody from the power

company had shown up and

needed to talk to the owner.

Where is, how much are these protein bars?

Where can I pay for, you know,

my fit aid and all this stuff?

And I'm thinking, oh my God, stop.

And this is a thousand times

better than it was on Sunday.

I mean,

literally I had like one octave and

it was way,

way low and anything higher

than that just came out as a speak.

But yeah, Corey,

I like this version of my voice.

I really do like,

but Saturday was ridiculous.

It was, well, and I,

Didn't know if I was sick or not.

I mean,

I obviously have like a cold or

something.

You know,

I wasn't sure if I had something

more serious.

And every time I had to talk to someone,

I had to get in their ear

and talk to them.

It felt awful.

Let me give you my germs.

You know, I don't know what's happening.

So luckily.

I've taken 18 million, you know,

what tests and they're all negative.

So I just have a bad cold or

maybe I have allergies.

Maybe I need to start taking

the Scott Switzer route.

You know,

Natalie had this respiratory

thing for like a month,

actually two months.

And she had like walking pneumonia.

And she has walking pneumonia.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

I mean, I should,

I should go to the doctor and, you know,

Mike's been telling me like, Hey,

just do like a telehealth or whatever.

you know,

between getting Eliana ready for

her first day of school

today and dealing with a dying dog.

And it's just crazy.

So I saw Dashie today.

I saw him, I went and visited him.

Chris sent me a text this

morning and said he collapsed again.

So I went to the house after

the gym and took a look at

him and he's still eating

chicken and wagging his tail and acting,

you know, slow,

but not unhappy or in pain.

So,

he's kind of still hanging

out doing his thing.

I just,

it's a roller coaster and I can't

keep getting these texts like, Hey,

he collapsed.

I'm like, Oh my God.

Okay.

Is today the day?

Well, no, he's still wagging his tail.

You know, what should we do?

And I'm like, Oh,

you're going to put them up there.

No, thank you.

It's actually this one.

There we go.

Yeah.

It's funny you talk about dogs.

I found out,

we haven't talked publicly

since I found out last

Wednesday that I am fully

allergic to my dog.

Good grief.

I finally went to an

allergist who did the skin

test and then followed it

up with like an injection

test where they go deeper into the body.

And then they did a rhino

nose test with everything.

And that's where I found out

finally that I'm allergic

officially to the dog and

to just about everything outside.

I know everything, all the things.

So I started immunotherapy in two weeks.

I think Charlie did that too.

I did a lot of injection tests.

Yeah.

But I mean, didn't you do immunotherapy?

Didn't you get out?

No.

Oh.

I didn't get shots.

Forget that.

It's fine.

You're going to get shots eventually,

right?

The immunotherapy is sort of like a,

like a hyper boost.

Of what the shots would be.

And then, and then you'll.

Is the shots.

Yeah.

Okay.

But it's like three weeks of

shots in a day or something, right?

Well, you can,

you can do it every week for a year,

or you can elect to do the

rush where you do three

months of shots in five hours.

And that's what you're doing, right?

That's I'm electing to do that.

Because you don't see relief

until three months.

I've been dealing with this way too long.

Like I need some relief from this.

So, yeah,

I'm just going to go in there

every 20 minutes for five hours.

You get a shot.

And then and then you do

weekly for the rest of the year.

What would have been the year?

And then you move to

biweekly and then you'll

move to monthly and then

then you should be done.

But it is a long process.

I actually did start that.

That's what I'm saying.

I know.

I did that five-hour thing.

I remember it now.

Did it help?

You're in the middle of it now?

No, I did it years ago.

It's kind of like day one.

He does the first part and

then he just doesn't make it.

I did the five hours and then I was out.

He did the tough part and

then when it got easy, nah.

He didn't do the follow-through.

Weird.

I decided to try something else.

yeah oh why cat just leave

oh she's coming um so

charlie let's talk about

what happened to your back

listen when you don't do

mobility and you don't have

a core everything seems to

just tighten up when you do

things was it during the

kettlebell swings I'm

guessing it's probably

during the uh cleaning

jerks oh I forgot that part

What do you mean you don't have a core?

Are you like the scarecrow?

Or you don't have?

Basically.

He thinks you got a core.

I think you just maybe

aren't engaging your core.

There you go.

There's nothing to engage.

Charlie's on the free trial

for allergy tests.

What I want you guys to hear about, though,

first,

is what happened this morning when

you were supposed to be in my class?

What happened there?

See, what happened was...

The bus has skid outside, see?

And then, oh,

my watch died in the middle of the night,

which has my alarm.

Isn't it weird?

With all the technology that we have,

that Charlie's alarms,

he still misses it.

I'm not letting a man know where I'm at.

You guys have your newfangled stuff.

I got an old school, that little brown.

That's what I need,

that brown clock with red digits on it.

I have one of those next to my bed.

It doesn't have an alarm,

but it tells me what time

it is because I can't stand

having to look at a phone

or a watch to see.

Amy, are you still using your Whoop?

No, I quit that about a year ago.

Is anybody?

Am I the only one?

My whoop is my alarm clock.

Like if I don't have this, I don't,

it's basically the only

reason I wear it anymore is

to tell me how many hours I

didn't sleep and to wake me

up in the morning.

I just pay a different app

to tell me that.

Okay.

What's going on with Kat's voice?

Did I miss that part?

Yep.

You did.

I got, I got the boogie woogie flu.

Oh, yeah.

Well, that's what I said.

I didn't realize she was

bringing her phone voice to the podcast.

Corey says Charlie has that

brown clock that plays

yacht rock when it goes off.

It's easing me right back into my dreams.

Yeah.

So were you able to do any of the workout?

Yeah, I did all.

Oh, you said the last round.

Okay.

The kettlebell swings.

I was like, is it worth it?

No.

Well, you were missed in the back corner.

Which I'm not allowed to be in anymore.

He's not allowed to be.

Yeah.

Did you guys hear this?

You didn't hear it.

We didn't talk about it.

What happened?

Well,

I'm one of Charlie's accountability

coaches, as you all know,

because that's why I share

his dirty laundry on there.

Which he quits doing as much as I quit.

I do it and then I just get tired of.

See?

The accountability partner is it.

I get tired of the lack of response.

So anyways, he is not a lot.

So there's this back corner

that he likes to go in and work out in,

work out in.

And I've told him he's no

longer allowed to go back

there because I think he

doesn't push as hard when

he goes back there.

And so he needs to be a part

of the main area,

unless there is somebody

back there who will push

him like one of the other

coaches that might come in and work out.

And he has agreed upon the right.

You agreed that that was correct.

Okay.

Well, today was me and Marcus.

So, okay.

That wasn't fun.

Nope.

Well, um, yeah.

Wow.

You have some news at your gym.

Yeah.

I talked about it a little

bit Sunday night,

but the O'Connells have

sold CrossFit Polaris,

what was now known as IBEX headquarters.

They're going back to CrossFit Polaris.

Two family members from the gym bought

um bought it um and the

o'connell said that they

will now just be members

starting september 1st they

will shift from being

owners to being members and

still want to be a part of

the community and that's

why they sold it to

somebody in-house so it

could stay kind of in the

family um for those who don't know

christy's mom and dad owned

the gym first uh tony and

donna and they've owned it

for a very long time then

when christy and pat came

back to columbus they

bought into the gym and uh

and I think they all just

decided it was a new time

in their life and they

wanted to focus on other

things so they went ahead

and sold the gym but um

what's that gonna do for programming

so according to my inside

source who goes to a class

with the one of the new

owners um they are shifting

over to a new programming

and they're promoting one

of the coaches to head

coach and head programmer

um to do programming I'm

trying to find out if pat

is still going to do ibex

training online right um or

I pay for it like they're

still going to sell ibex training for

why that wasn't part of our

email to the community or, I mean,

they've given us no

indication that that's going away.

Well, they just started a free trial,

which care sign up for a

new block starting next week.

So stuff, you mean Charlie for IBEX?

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, that's good to know.

Yeah.

I mean,

I would hope we'd get some notice

if they weren't doing that anymore.

A lot more questions about

that than I have about the gym itself.

Um, cause there's, and I've noticed,

I've noticed lately too,

that the Ibex stuff has

gotten really sloppy.

Like there's, there's a lot of, um,

you know, like in the description,

it'll talk about cleaning

jerks and in the, in an actual workout,

it'll say snatches or, you know,

some other movement.

So, um,

Welcome to mayhem.

Is it like that too?

I mean,

it doesn't take much guys to just

like proofread that stuff,

especially if they're

selling it for a fee.

Oh, and let me tell you this too.

I'm going to go there

because I have given the feedback.

So I'm not saying anything

behind anybody's back.

I have given upfront feedback,

but Darren Hunsucker makes

the videos for the coaches and

It is the biggest amateur

hour videos I've ever seen.

He messes up about three or

four times at the beginning where I think,

Hey dude,

could you just edit your videos

before you send it out?

Like, and he'll give like,

it's not just a random little thing.

It'll be like a totally

different number or a

totally different round

that completely changes the

whole stimulus of whatever

the workout is supposed to be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't, it's not that difficult.

I don't understand it to be

honest with you.

I feel like a lot of times too, it's,

if that's the case,

like they're dealing with a

year cycle and they're kind

of just maybe cutting and pasting,

regurgitating it and

cutting and pasting or whatnot.

But I mean, it's hard.

I get it.

But if you're, if you're selling it,

it should be a professional product.

And I feel like it's not.

Oh boy.

Yeah.

Oh, here we go.

Exactly.

People just follow the leader, right?

Yeah.

What is this?

So if you look in the description and this,

they're two different workouts.

Back squat, max back squat,

but yet up here, workout of the day,

seven rounds per time.

So which one is it?

Yeah.

Both.

Here's your strength.

Here's your Metcon.

Well,

it's bad when you're in first class

and then you're like, wait,

this is not supposed to be this.

It's supposed to be this.

Poor 5 AMers.

They're just the rest of the day.

Two rounds.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

It's not 400 meters.

It was 400 feet.

My dad.

Whoops.

Yeah.

I didn't want to,

I didn't want to talk about this,

but it's here.

And so I'm going to go ahead

and pull it up.

Oh boy.

But, um,

What I'm hating ever since

the games happened and the

tragedy that was,

the internet is just stupid.

I can't even be on it.

It's a dumpster fire.

I was hoping to dive into

CrossFit instead of, you know,

what's it called?

Political drama on the internet.

And now I don't want to be a

part of any of it.

So the buttery rose put out

a documentary yesterday,

kind of behind the scenes

and maybe two days ago, really, really,

really well done, really well done.

And they made an

announcement that all

AdSense will be donated to

the GoFundMe for Lazar's family.

The AdSense is Google's way

of paying YouTubers for what,

for what monetization comes through.

And the comment is,

are you guys going to write

off the donations on your tax return?

We can skip the Heller part.

He realized that receiving

any monetary compensation,

even if it is then donated,

that is earned primarily

due to a person's death is

just a really bad look.

So here's a group of people

trying to do a good thing

by donating the money that

they get from this because

they are content creators.

That's what they do.

And not taking any money for themselves,

but to do it and give the money away.

And we've got to have people

like this attacking them.

I find it stupid.

Yeah, they took that comment down too.

But people just have like

itchy trigger fingers right

now on the internet.

I feel like you can't do anything right.

The training Think Tank

podcast that you mentioned

to us to listen to, it was really good.

And I thought Travis Mayer

and the other guys did a

great job of talking about,

you guys from home have no

idea what it felt like to be there.

And Sky,

I know you and Katz both said that too,

which was a really good

perspective because the

only thing we had to go on

was social media, basically.

And it was so negative and so hateful.

And so it was hard to even

pull up anything on your

phone over that weekend

because it was so negative.

When people on the internet

were saying everything

looked like it was back to

normal was the biggest

irritant for me the whole

weekend because in no way, shape,

or form was that weekend

normal for us there.

Right.

Right.

No, and even hearing, you know,

Travis's perspective, too,

of the athletes and sort of

what happened behind the scenes and how,

you know,

the warm-up areas were and the

corralling and all of that.

Like,

we didn't have insight into that either.

Scott and I didn't.

But you can only imagine, like,

that was so different as well.

It's like the whole thing was just crazy.

I mean, and even I felt like I even –

was at odds sometimes with my own friends,

like even Scott and I

during the weekend had

differing opinions and we're like,

wait a minute.

No, you know, no, no, not, I mean, it just,

everybody was on edge and rightfully so,

but yeah,

that shit makes you do weird stuff.

And the whole part I kept

thinking about when we're

thinking about the,

the community so divided right now,

like with,

with what was the right thing

to do or how people grieved.

And

what I like kept going back

to and thinking is no matter what though,

all of those athletes that

were there are trauma bonded now.

Like they,

nobody else knows what that

experience was like.

And,

and my hope is that someday that that

will kind of bring them

closer to being together,

even if in the moment they

needed to respond and react

in a different, in a different way.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're right about that.

Yeah.

one thing I know we said we

were going to try to do is

share a memory every week

and as I was watching the

buttery bros uh thing which

the last 10 minutes was

like that should have been

the memorial yeah it was

great um you're about to

get ice in the veins from

those immunotherapies

I wish I would have started them, but no.

Yeah.

So if you haven't watched

the Buttery Burrows,

it was just a pretty long episode.

It was like an hour and 45 minutes.

Yeah.

I napped in the middle of it, but yeah,

it was good.

It was, the end was really good.

But I just thought they did,

they did overall,

like they did a really good

job of storytelling,

but also I think being respectful,

respectful storytelling.

Yeah, for sure.

I liked how they let the

athletes speak about their time,

like we've been doing on this show.

And so one memory that kind

of came up to me was I'd

gone to Rogue in 21?

Maybe?

Yeah.

And

Worked as a PA for the documentary.

And part of that was really

just equipping the camera

people with their batteries.

So it was stationed in the

third base dugout where all

the athletes would come

wait to be announced out

onto the grounds.

So I'm just sitting there

with a couple of volunteers.

And every time Lazar would

come into the dugout,

he would fist bump me.

And the volunteers are like,

do you know him?

And before I could say anything,

Lazarus was like,

he's my good luck charm.

And, uh,

and like that memory came back

because of what the buttery

brush showed and like was

so much like every

experience I had with Lazarus.

So I don't know.

I just wanted to share that one today.

I love how honest everybody was too.

Like how they were talking

about how fun he was to be around,

but how they were like, yeah,

he was the biggest shit talker.

And I, but I love that,

that they weren't like, Oh, you know,

like it's true.

He was.

Yeah.

And I think it was Brent

that was saying something about like,

he was really sad at the

award ceremony because usually they,

you know,

they all get pizza and sit down

and he's like,

and I'd look for Lazar

because he's just fun to hang out with.

And I think that was a big

piece that was missed this weekend too.

You know,

I understand why it couldn't

happen or didn't happen the way it did,

but, you know, bringing Mike,

there for the first time and

trying to explain to him what it's like.

I mean, that kid,

he has no idea what the

CrossFit Games is like.

And the award ceremony, I'm like, no,

you don't understand.

People take off their shoes

and they announce the

winners of the events.

And they're all ribbing and

joshing and eating pizza, drinking beer.

And it's just the coolest thing ever.

And that's just a big piece

of it where the athletes

can relax and be themselves.

And it's when they probably

do most of their bonding

over the weekend because, you know,

competition's over and

their guard is down and all that.

So just suck that that

didn't get to happen, you know,

with or without him.

And the other true thing is

you learn about the fire of

Lazar and Brent saying that

there was never a

competition where Lazar

didn't find the bad ref or the bad judge.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Those are the stories.

I mean,

like people didn't shy away from

sharing those stories.

That was great.

It's true.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And we've seen firsthand up

close him yelling at a judge.

Going crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which is awesome.

That's passion.

Yeah.

It comes both ways.

Here's competitor.

Well,

we only have a couple of minutes left.

And one thing I talked about

Sunday night that I just

wanted to kind of reiterate

and maybe try to say clear this,

this week is I'm having

some issues with the PFAA in its concept.

I like what it is.

And I think that the

athletes need a voice and

they need a unified voice and

But I don't know that where

the PFA is today is that voice.

I've been a member of a

professional organization

like my entire time with the state.

We have a professional

organization that covers

the work that we do day to day.

Hi, Sprinkles.

And so with that

professional organization

are elected officials that represent you.

And whenever there's a

change to the bylaws or

anything like that,

there is a vote that

happens and you as members

pay dues to have a voting right to then

vote on those changes or to

vote on something that's done.

The PFA puts out a statement

with three demands saying

that they represent the

interest of those who

competed in the CrossFit Games season.

I have never,

ever seen a roster of

athletes that are members of the PFAA.

I don't know who they represent.

I don't know,

are there dues paying members?

They have a board of directors,

were they self-appointed or

were they elected?

Like these are things that

the PFAA demands

transparency from CrossFit.

And those are all things

that we don't know about

their organization.

I want them to have a voice.

I want them to be able to

speak freely about what

they think needs to be

safer or what they need to

be more fair competition.

But doggone it,

like figure your own shit out.

And tell me who your members

are and do it in a way that

makes sense so that you are

representing a group of

athletes who have a say

either by voting rights or

through internal meetings,

not just a club of self-appointed people.

Yeah, I agree.

I think that athletes need

to take a stand whether

they're part of it or not.

And I think before when

maybe some of these

decisions weren't so

critical or so divisive.

I think it was easy for them to just say,

we represent the athletes, right?

The best interest of the athletes.

And, you know,

certainly anybody that's

going to compete in a

semifinal or in at the CrossFit games,

you know,

would have something to gain by

being aligned by the PFAA

because they're looking out

for their safety when it comes to,

you know, box height and rope length and,

you know, is this a fair standard,

that kind of thing.

But when, but when it comes to,

when they're putting their

foot down and saying like,

we have demands, I agree.

I think,

I think we need to know who

exactly are they

representing because it's,

it can't just be this sort

of blanket statement of, you know,

we represent the interests

of the athletes.

It's like, okay, but you know,

you're asking for some serious shit.

Well, I mean,

I hear what you guys are saying.

I'm not totally disagreeing.

But I think the other

perspective that I see is

that they're also trying to

throw some leadership with

some confidence in there, too.

And I think that they're trying to say,

like,

we don't want to be pushed over anymore.

Like,

they need to have an important part

or they need to be a part

of some of these conversations.

And so I think that's where

the language of the demands come from.

I hear what you guys I hear

what you're saying.

Mm hmm.

I'm just saying I,

whenever I see things just

because of the nature of who I am,

I like to look at like, okay, what is,

what's behind the behavior

of what's making this happen?

What, what is the behavior?

What's encouraging this response?

And I think it's something

that they started four

years ago and they're

feeling it's incredibly

like it's so important

right now to make sure that

they're heard loudly.

They started it, though,

and they haven't been inclusive,

in my opinion.

There are eight people

signed to those demands.

If it's a demand of eight

people or a demand of 200 athletes,

that's a very different demand.

Or 2,000.

Right.

I've asked semifinal athletes.

None of them have asked to

be a member of the PFAA.

I've asked Masters athletes.

None of them have been asked

to be members of the PFAA.

Now the PFAA is stepping in

to work with things like

Wadapalooza SoCal.

They're moving in to work

with NorCal Classic.

Now you're representing all

the athletes in that field.

Those are...

community events those are

semi-final level athletes

those are masters athletes

those are teen athletes how

can you say you represent

all those athletes when

you're not letting any of

them be members of your

association well I think we

need to get more

information about it

ourselves I think they need

to give us more information

like they're demanding of crossfit

Sure.

I'm just saying,

just as you've been saying,

we need to wait until we

have all the information.

Hey,

maybe we also need to make sure that

we have all the information.

Right.

I'm not arguing with Amy

that I think that the

athletes need a voice.

I do think they need a voice.

I do.

And maybe the statements

that were made are valid

across more people than we think.

I'm asking just for the

transparency that they're

asking for in what athletes

are making this statement.

And that becomes really

difficult now that Dave's

head's on a platter.

I think that doing that is

going to make it very

difficult for some athletes

to come out and say they're a part of it.

Yeah.

Regardless.

Because, because it's so, you know,

what's that?

Put it out there for them to,

to be allowed to be a part

of it and to have a voting

right into what the demands are.

Yeah.

And then if you say like,

we have a membership base

of a thousand people and

73% voted that we want Dave on a platter,

that, that means something.

Right.

I'm not saying I'm not, well,

I may or may not agree with this.

The, the request made,

they have the entitlement to make them.

I just want to know what

impact it truly has by how

many athletes are involved.

And I think it was premature

and I think it became very

divisive in the community.

Yeah,

and I don't necessarily agree with

the last demand either.

But I just am trying to look at it as,

yeah,

I think we don't have all the

information about the PFAA.

And I hear what you're saying, you know,

they haven't given us all

the information or any information.

Yeah.

Well,

we all just sit back and scroll

Instagram and wait for

someone to make a post, unfortunately,

is how we get all of our information,

which also sucks.

Yeah.

That is such a bad,

bad precedence that the

entire CrossFit world is bad at.

Just this Masters thing this weekend,

Bob and Joe go on this

podcast and they release

this information.

They go on this podcast and

they release this information.

How do you get to all the

podcasts to make sure you

have everything you need as an athlete?

Hear me out.

What if they had a media?

Right.

I mean, it should be coming from their,

you know, official.

And even the fact that the

Instagram is the sort of

channel of delivery is

still kind of annoying to me, but.

Yeah.

We're talking,

you've added a 70 plus division.

Like in the master division,

are you guaranteed all

these people have Instagram?

Right.

I know.

Emails, something, you know, WhatsApp.

What, Charlie?

They're probably at MySpace.

You have to write them a

letter or mail it to them.

On their AOL accounts.

Yes.

Yeah.

Their dial-up connections.

Yeah.

Yeah, I know.

We need a lot more

information about a lot of

things still left unanswered.

You guys got my text this

morning about the medical

examiner's information that

it could take another six

to eight weeks before we

get information on

Lazar's cause of death,

which also just leaves things to churn.

Yeah.

Uh, so Brent McCarty, uh, Wu Tang clan fan,

uh,

I bet there have been athletes asked

to join and they are afraid

to say something.

I know for a fact that like

Carolyn Priva was asked to join,

but all that meant when she

joined is she got like the newsletter,

uh,

according to her.

And I don't know what that, like,

it didn't sound like she

had any voting rights on

what they said or who they,

what demands they were

making or anything like that.

So.

Yeah.

And you remember when we,

when we interviewed Brent, he even said,

maybe it was us or somebody did.

He was talking about this Brent.

He was talking about the

conversation around the responsibility of,

you know,

leading that organization and how,

you know,

they wanted to write bylaws and

do all these things.

And he's like, quite frankly, he's like,

I just don't have the time to do that.

I'm training to be a professional athlete.

And I remember even thinking to myself,

like, I wonder if, you know,

someone like you or I,

Scott could jump in, you know,

and be that part, like, you know,

play an administrative role in that,

in that area.

And, you know,

obviously nothing came of that,

but he himself admits that he's got,

he's like,

That's the problem.

That's the problem.

It's one man and one man's

opinion and one man writing,

not a unified athlete group.

If you get dues from people

like my professional association,

I think the dues yearly are 60 bucks,

right?

It's not anything that breaks the bank,

but what you can do with

that money is then hire

someone to write the bylaws.

Yeah.

Right.

And so that's where the,

I think they need to go.

Um,

but that's where I'm going to leave it

today.

Unless you guys have something else.

I have a one o'clock meeting

here in Eastern time.

So real jobs.

Yeah.

So I just want to come get

everybody revved up and then walk out.

I don't even have any food in my kitchen.

And not even a can of tuna.

Nope.

Nope.

All empty.

I'm going to have to go

shopping before school starts.

All right, guys.

Well, you guys don't have anything else.

Thanks for being here.

We're here every week.

Next week,

we'll kind of recap the weekend

from the Masters.

Don't forget to support the teams, too.

They're going off in

Michigan this weekend.

Everything's going to be streamed,

so you can check those out

on games.crossfit.com or

their separate YouTube channels,

I believe, as well.

So go ahead and check that out.

We will see everybody next

time on the Clydesdale Media Roundtable.

Bye, guys.