Secure Talk Podcast

Half the room at Chris Cochran's leadership dinners still calls themselves AI skeptics. He argues they can't afford to be — because the adversary already isn't.

Chapters: 
00:00 — Intro
02:49 — NSA/threat intel → AI security, storytelling
09:55 — Why leaders feel stuck / no roadmap
14:41 — Three pillars (Protect/Utilize/Govern)
17:00 — Governance as the real foundation / shadow AI
21:37 — Evidence-based scoring vs. pass/fail
26:27 — EU AI Act
28:44 — Fable/Mythos, Project Glasswing access controls
33:18 — Token subsidies, self-hosted models
37:52 — Data poisoning & context poisoning
40:12 — Iron Man suit framing
42:38 — Close: what's next



What is Secure Talk Podcast?

Secure Talk reviews the latest threats, tips, and trends on security, innovation, and compliance.

Host Justin Beals interviews leading privacy, security and technology executives to discuss best practices related to IT security, data protection and compliance. Based in Seattle, he previously served as the CTO of NextStep and Koru, which won the 2018 Most Impactful Startup award from Wharton People Analytics. He is the creator of the patented Training, Tracking & Placement System and the author of “Aligning curriculum and evidencing learning effectiveness using semantic mapping of learning assets,” published in the International Journal of Emerging Technologies in Learning (iJet). Justin earned a BA from Fort Lewis College.