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A relatable and honest podcast about the highs and lows of being a youth hockey parent. Join us as we share real stories, struggles, and wins from the rink, offering insights and support for parents navigating the world of youth hockey.
Episode nine of the crazy hockey dads podcast episode nine. I am your host, Jamie and my cohost
Scott:Scott here.
Jamie:And we, for those of you who don't know us, we talk youth hockey.
Scott:Yep. Sure
Jamie:do. A little bit of a, it's really for parents, I would say. Right. Our podcast.
Scott:Yeah, for sure.
Jamie:Yeah. I mean, so we try to help parents navigate, the ridiculous landscape that is the youth hockey world.
Scott:And it is ridiculous.
Jamie:Sure is.
Scott:And I think, we are here to share our experiences.
Jamie:Funny and
Scott:otherwise, hair pulling.
Jamie:So many hair pulling.
Scott:Yeah, no. And to create that sense of community, you know, I think we're not the only ones that like to talk this hockey stuff.
Jamie:Everybody likes to talk hockey stuff in the world of hockey.
Scott:In the world of hockey, people love it. Parents like to do it because look, it's not easy. Ultimately, think that a lot of this was born out of just things not being so easy and just taking the time that we would have to balance things off each other and share experiences, get feedback. We want to
Jamie:So we can all be miserable together.
Scott:What's nice about misery loves company. Yes,
Jamie:does. It's a very difficult world if you don't know how to navigate it and it's easier to navigate it when you can talk to other people because we're all going through the same crap
Scott:for
Jamie:the most part. Whether worried about tryouts, whether they're worried about a kid getting cut, whether they're worried about kids playing time, whatever it is, right? For the most part, it's all the same worries.
Scott:Oh yeah. No.
Jamie:Just how you deal with it as a parent.
Scott:Yeah. Just not easy. No. So this this
Jamie:this we started this podcast, you know, for those of you who don't know us, as kind of like a full therapy session for ourselves. No doubt. To kind of help us because we would have these conversations, the two of us, when we're not recording, you know, and figured, Hey, listen, why don't record it and talk to the world
Scott:and share it. Yeah. You know, without a doubt.
Jamie:So on this episode, just give everybody a heads up. We're going to talk a little, little gear, right? A little gear. We're going to talk a little superstitions. We're going to talk a little locker room bullying.
Jamie:A little, you know, how to deal with some kids. If you're just kind of stuck in a tough situation that happens seems to all the time, right in this world. Maybe get into a little IIHF, which nobody knows that's going on right now because the playoffs are, because the Stanley Cup playoffs are so good. So nobody's paying attention to the world championships.
Scott:I saw a clip when I stopped at a light on the way over here.
Jamie:Did you? Of the world championships?
Scott:Yeah. Crosby just scoring a filthy goal.
Jamie:I saw something. He came in from the right hand side.
Scott:Yeah. I
Jamie:saw that today. It's funny you said that. I don't know where I saw I
Scott:it's so legit. I mean He's awesome. He's so next level. It's like the gold standard of ice hockey.
Jamie:You're a % correct,
Scott:dude.
Jamie:I would love him on my hockey team.
Scott:Even at this stage of his career, the fact that he was the leading point scorer for Pittsburgh and he's still taking team friendly deals, like, it's, it's
Jamie:the guys he's awesome. He's like you said, he's the gold standard. You're I think you're a % correct.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:Yeah. The guy's tremendous. I tell the story to Dominic all the time where when listen, so for those of you don't know, we're obviously devil's fans. And so are you. So I tell the story when Jack Hughes, who I love, cause I'm a devil's fan.
Jamie:When Jack Hughes, he was joined with somebody from the, the flyers
Scott:and
Jamie:they both got put in the box and he was, they were chirping each other through the glass.
Scott:Right. Right. And he
Jamie:got caught on a hot mic. People pay to watch me play.
Scott:And
Jamie:ever since he said that, I turned to Dom and I go, Dom, I go, Sydney Crosby would have never said that. No. No. It's like Derek Jeter. They would never say those things.
Jamie:They just don't. They carry themselves a different way.
Scott:They do. There's like a level of class. No question. Listen, I will also say-
Jamie:It's impressive.
Scott:Like even- Super impressive. Just even playing competitive sports. I mean, when you're in the throes of it to maintain class a % of the time. Look, I'm sure that Sidney Crosby has said some things that
Jamie:are below the belt. Listen, I am sure. But he's smart enough not to be caught on a hot mic probably.
Scott:You know, I'm going to see after this podcast, I'm going to look for it.
Jamie:You're to Google it?
Scott:Hot Mike.
Jamie:I'm sure he has been, but maybe Jack just has a lot to learn.
Scott:Yeah, know, but it's also, I think there's a also didn't live with
Jamie:Mario Lemieux for like the first couple of years, you know, when he was a rookie and kind of was taught the right way to do things. That didn't happen. No. I don't think there was anime that Jack was living with. Like who would he have been living with at the time?
Scott:You know, it's interesting you bring up Lemieux, because obviously it was like a total superstar. Super Super Mario. But like, I don't know off the top of my head. I can't even think about it, like his reputation. Like I know he had, he overcame adversity.
Scott:He was clearly a superstar. He was a big Hodgkin's. He
Jamie:was a big guy.
Scott:I don't know if, you know, what his teammates would say about him. I don't know. I just don't know.
Jamie:We were, you and I were little when he was kind of a stud.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:Right. I mean, him and Jaager, we, know,
Scott:oh my gosh. Jaager's still playing.
Jamie:You know who's going to do that now? You watch Ovechkin's going do that.
Scott:Go back to the KHL
Jamie:a %. He's going to play until he's 55.
Scott:Although he looks like he's 55.
Jamie:Just going to say that the dude looks like he's 55 now. Yeah. He you're I couldn't have said it better. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Scott:All right. So let's, let's, let's dive into some of these topics.
Jamie:Yes. Oh, so before we dive into topics, I just want to tell you, cause again, cause you don't know this yet. So we have been expanding our reach, which is awesome. Our downloads keep kind of coming in pretty regular. Last time we were in The United States, 27 States, five Canadian provinces, and we had just moved into Istanbul, Turkey.
Jamie:Remember?
Scott:Yeah, sure
Jamie:Two, three episodes ago. We are now in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Scott:No way.
Jamie:Yep. We are now in Limburg, Netherlands. Oh. Yep. We did not add another Canadian province.
Jamie:We're still in those five, but we added Washington state. Oh, Yeah.
Scott:Good. I was watching some CHL clips and the WHL, they got the Spokane, I think the Spokane Chiefs, they're playing Medicine Hat where they get, what's this, Gavin McKenna's playing? McKenna, yeah. It was unreal.
Jamie:You know, it's funny. I was listening to something or something came across yesterday and said like, you you don't, they were talking about all those offer sheets that people are going to give to a of these, like, I guess they're restricted free agents. Is that how the offer sheets work? I don't know how the offer sheet works.
Scott:Yeah. That's one side of the game. I'm not super versed into
Jamie:it. Got to figure that part out, but they were showing compensation for the offer sheets. And they said there's gonna be a lot of offer sheets this off season, you know? And the compensation you have to give up is big, especially if they're like, you know, like an $8.09, 10,000,000 player. Like Neis is one of
Scott:them.
Jamie:They were saying that he may try like an offer sheet as opposed to just signing with the Maple Leafs. So they were talking about, you know, do you give up your 2026 first round draft pick if you're gonna be a high pick when you have a guy like Gavin McKenna coming out?
Scott:In the hopper? Yeah.
Jamie:Listen. And I think the answer was no. You don't want to give
Scott:up that
Jamie:first round pick if you're going to have a low pick. Cause if you get the chance to get Gavin McKenna, that's impressive.
Scott:Yeah. When you say low, you mean, you mean high
Jamie:high low meaning like one,
Scott:two, three.
Jamie:Low pick meaning like, you know, one, two, three.
Scott:Right. Like as a low number.
Jamie:Correct.
Scott:Yes. Yeah. Got you.
Jamie:No, see how that's missing. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. So, yeah.
Jamie:So we're moving along here with our podcast. We keep expanding the map, which is awesome. You know? So listen.
Scott:Yeah, well shout out to everyone. Thank you so much for the support.
Jamie:Absolutely. Download, share. Socials are up.
Scott:They're up with nothing on there.
Jamie:They're up with nothing on them.
Scott:I think that that was like in the process of changing on
Jamie:my way over will change. That was gonna say any day now that will change. Be on the lookout for Instagram, honestly.
Scott:For sure.
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah. Be on the lookout for Instagram first and then we'll be adding everything else, but, yeah, we're going
Scott:to keep, we're going to
Jamie:keep going. Episode nine. Most of them don't make it. Most podcasts don't make it past three. Then the next barrier is ten.
Jamie:And once you eclipse 10, you're in a different category.
Scott:Well, we're going to get there.
Jamie:No question about it.
Scott:There's no doubt. So let's dive into gear for a second because my son needs a new stick. And I'm going to say needs with a capital N, new stick like you don't even know. You would think that he was playing with a
Jamie:Like an Easton wooden stick?
Scott:Yeah. No doubt.
Jamie:Yeah, yeah, From like the 1980s?
Scott:Yeah, but he's not.
Jamie:No? No, he's got a
Scott:perfectly good stick.
Jamie:I'm probably pretty sure it was like $200 plus.
Scott:Yeah, it's a nice stick and it's just not new and shiny anymore. Isn't that funny how that happens? All of the lines he drops, it's like, dad. You don't understand. Dad, it's like, I think I'm bending over a little too far and my stick's a little too We
Jamie:need a new one. I'm growing.
Scott:And I really like whippy sticks. My stick's great, don't get me wrong, dad, but I really think my shot's gonna be much better with a whippy stick.
Jamie:With a brand new whippy stick.
Scott:Yeah. No doubt. Yeah. And his stick is fine.
Jamie:Of course it is.
Scott:And it's It's not the stick, it's the player. No. Right? You you know what? That was like I remember when we were kids, you you I think was it you?
Scott:So who told us it's not the racket that makes the man
Jamie:the same The man that makes the racket.
Scott:Though we knew he
Jamie:played tennis.
Scott:Anyway, but no, just the whole world of equipment now with like, even with the sticks. So you can Dom, I know he has a custom stick or two and there's no end to where parents can spend money. It's one thing to get a top of the line stick, but now there's the extra, extra on top of that. And for us with younger kids, your kid's two years older than mine. So he's certainly starting to develop better technical skills.
Scott:So I think He can activate the flex on the stick
Jamie:now, even for a little guy.
Scott:Yeah, so he's ripped enough, that many more pucks and he's gotten that much more instruction. And so he's starting to find his way with that. With Otto, I mean, he's not there yet in my opinion.
Jamie:No, it just takes time. It's all it
Scott:is. Right, so no judgment. But just saying the way he's positioning his need for a new stick is like, I'm pretty sure that the flex plus or minus five not gonna make a difference.
Jamie:Probably not. Yes. But I will say this, I'm curious if there's something to, like a confidence boost. Cause I was listening to something this morning and somebody said like, can talk yourself into playing well.
Scott:Yeah. I think that's true. Yeah. I do too. I I I think I'll call bullshit on that.
Scott:I mean, I I've I've gone down
Jamie:Which on which part? On on the on the, you know, will you start playing better with a new stick because it's little give me a little more confidence?
Scott:Yeah. And and this might even bleed into
Jamie:It may just feel better in
Scott:his hand that we get but Yeah, might feel better, but when you're in the throes of playing a competitive sport, like you're not really processing how nice your stick feels in your It's
Jamie:probably horseshit because these kids all want to look good.
Scott:What the hell?
Jamie:Like, Dominic says to me all
Scott:the he said to me the other day, he's
Jamie:like, dad, like, do I look good when I play? I'm like, sorry. Like, which part? Saturday or Sunday. He
Scott:is how cool days go. Your helmet looks He goes, do I
Jamie:look good? He goes, can you see my hair coming out the back
Scott:of my helmet? I'm like, fuck. I'm like,
Jamie:this is not a good conversation. I'm like, Tom, this is not what you're supposed to be asking me. He's like, well, I look just tell me, do I look good? I'm like, you know, when you look dumb, when you skate really hard, like that's when you look good.
Scott:Right. When your forecheck is off the charts and you're first on puck, that's when you look good.
Jamie:Yeah. And then I go, go, I go, who are you trying look good for? And he said some words, Scott. I can't remember the word because it was so ridiculous. Mean, it was like some Like
Scott:slang word? Yes.
Jamie:Yes. It was like one of those stupid memes that all these yo yos are saying. Oh my god. Please don't even get me started with that shit.
Scott:If doesn't know, when
Jamie:Dominic says that, I wanna throw something at him. Yo. Skibbidi, Riz, all that horseshit.
Scott:That's what you gotta tell Dom, so you can't. Listen, when you play, the only thing I see is Riz.
Jamie:When you skate really hard, then you're the real Rizzler.
Scott:You're the Rizzler.
Jamie:So he asked me, he said that to me the other day, like, dad, do I look at him like Jesus Christ? So, yeah. So they all want to look good, which is why they all want the new sticks with the new rap jobs.
Scott:Would it's such fucking
Jamie:bullshit. Gotta be all. It's gotta be the exact same stick year over year, a year, just with different wrapping. How much more technology can be put into this stuff?
Scott:Well, if you read the descriptions on pure hockey, you would think you're buying
Jamie:the Well, they have to
Scott:something that is about to like, you know, go to NASA.
Jamie:It's this new tech. It's the same with these new pickleball paddles. It's all the same shit. They all come from the same factory. It's all the same shit.
Scott:But you know what? So the interesting part, like, we'll talk about gear and like, you know, you've got those BladeTex sticks, right? That Dom's using and he's happy with those.
Jamie:Yeah. The BladeTex are Yeah. He likes them. I like them.
Scott:Yeah. They're like a fraction of cost.
Jamie:They are. Yeah. And that does, but they work for him. I would, if Dominic shot and played better with the most expensive power stick and most expensive CCM, I would do that. But he he for some strange, he he plays better with the
Scott:But there's there's diminishing returns on this for, like, the younger age groups. I mean, like, look, I I would say, you know, if a stick was too long, then you cut it, right? That's something that clearly makes sense because it fucks with your mechanics when you're shooting and stick handling
Jamie:and all
Scott:that other stuff.
Jamie:Also it fucks with the flex.
Scott:Right, if the flex is too stiff, I can imagine that, or too little, but I'm not talking about like a 30 versus a 35 or
Jamie:No, no, that's too I don't think that's a big difference.
Scott:Not a big enough gap. Same thing like Otto was telling me, you know, I think if, you know, if I had a lighter stick and I'm like, bro, I'm like, let me give you, like put out your hand. I'm going put a few coins. That's like
Jamie:10 grams. The weight of your stick.
Scott:You can't tell the difference. Didn't you used to play with the Hyperlite? You did.
Jamie:Yeah. So did Dominic. I mean,
Scott:there's nothing, I mean, maybe there's a lighter stick.
Jamie:I don't think there's many.
Scott:Not much that's
Jamie:different than No. So it's funny, the reason we gravitated toward the Blade Tech was Dominic saw it, he has this thing with Canada, like if a stick comes from Canada, it's better somehow. Even if it's probably made in China.
Scott:Listen, let me tell you something. I will make labels for you that say made in Canada and you can put that shit on everything he owns.
Jamie:I'm 99% sure his stick from Canada in air quotes is probably from China.
Scott:Or Mexico. Fine. Think a, have a Bauer stick, not Bauer. I think a warrior stick that was at Joe and me.
Jamie:I'm sure I would be able to grab one, but they, my point is I don't think they're made here in North America. No. You know? So, but the reason why we gravitated toward the blade tech is because he, it was, they had, they came out with an all white version. Yeah.
Jamie:Like last year, the white, it was before last season. We ordered it in like August.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:It was here like, first week in September, something like that. But the flex, so my, my guy's little, he's only like eighty, eighty five pounds. They, you know, I think power stops with most of their sticks at like 35 or 40 flex.
Scott:That's the lowest you're going on some
Jamie:of their sticks. Not a lot of their sticks are very, very wippy for little guys. Right. Exactly.
Scott:At least not the ones that have like the bigger names.
Jamie:And the youth sticks are like 15 flex, but like, I need something. I don't need a youth stick. I need like a junior stick. So the, the blade tech was a junior stick that had a 25 flex to it. So, and we cut it down a little bit, not much took a, like,
Scott:what, like thirty, thirty five.
Jamie:It's probably thirty, thirty five. Right. You know, cause he's a little guy, but, you know, yeah, listen, it's, it worked for him. It worked for him so well that he was cruising until December. Right.
Jamie:Like he was, he was doing like scary things with the hockey puck. Like I heard sounds that I've never heard before, like the thwap you hear when they trigger the flex and it snaps off the ice. When you hear it, you exactly what you're listening to. Right? And then in December he's like, oh, know, like like holiday time.
Jamie:A %.
Scott:What am I getting for Christmas? Twitch
Jamie:and it's got this cool wrapping job and, and listen, and you're like, as a parent, you're like Christmas is here. This is easy. He's not asking for like toys. Right. Cause you have, we all have bazillions of toys scattered through our house that our kids use for five minutes and never touch again.
Jamie:Right. So I'm like, okay, fine. So we bought them two of the Bauer Twitches. I think they're 40 flexes, I'm not mistaken. You know, and he used them and his shot changed immediately.
Scott:Yeah. But, but, but you know what, what got changed for the better immediately? What his style, how good he looks
Jamie:exactly. His flow and
Scott:his drip, right?
Jamie:Oh, I'm sorry. His drip. Right. Exactly. Right.
Jamie:So now was even more of the Rizzler than he was before. Right. So like, yeah. And I got to tell you, Nancy kept saying, Hey, why
Scott:don't you try your blade tech? Why you try your
Jamie:blade tech?
Scott:Why was she encouraging? Oh, just because you saw the
Jamie:difference in
Scott:the shot.
Jamie:And he did
Scott:not want to
Jamie:do what he was so
Scott:upset, but didn't think that he, but he thought his shot was, didn't change.
Jamie:I don't know if he was blind to it. Listen, his points were different. You could see if you pull up his game log.
Scott:Come on. And you're attributing this all to the stick? Can't be.
Jamie:Listen, I think the stick, I think it changed the way he shoots the trajectory, even though it's the same curve, maybe the lie was different. And for those of you who don't know the lie, like a golf club, it's how the stick lays, You know, when you put
Scott:the blade sits on the ice,
Jamie:when you have it flat,
Scott:when you're like your arm is extended, So it's like the angle of the blade, like up and down,
Jamie:they all have a different degree of lie. Right. And some are different than others. So maybe that the lie of the Twitch was diff the Bauer Twitch was different than the lie of the Blade Tech. But I could tell you because it's the same curve was that is a P 92 curve, which he likes.
Jamie:But his shot was different. There's no question about it. It was different. And maybe he lost a little bit of confidence because he was, he kept shooting the puck wide and high. Like when he was, he was really dialed in before Christmas time for like the, like call it like the holiday break.
Jamie:When he came back, he was different.
Scott:You know, I'm waiting for the day when I actually feel like something's dialed in and then I'm like, wait, it's a departure. We're still trying to get to that dialed in
Jamie:Listen, we just got to a part where something was working right. I'm not Unfortunately, you
Scott:had to buy like 500 worth of sticks.
Jamie:Yeah. Yes. Crazy hockey dad. You know what
Scott:they say? They say, No good deed goes unpunished.
Jamie:Exactly.
Scott:There you go.
Jamie:Yeah, it's true.
Scott:There you go. Got a big F you with a twitch. Seriously. You got a twitch in the middle finger.
Jamie:500 later. You know, 2 fricking custom dollars. Thank you very much. Now I'm just gonna put them on my wall or something like that.
Scott:Yo, you should ask them to tell them to autograph it. Give it to you for your birthday.
Jamie:Right. Exactly. But, but yeah, no, so, so he, he started playing, so he started playing with the blade tech recently again, started messing around with it after the season ended. But now he doesn't pick up the Twitch at all. Both of them they're like, they're in
Scott:the middle He sees the difference.
Jamie:He has to,
Scott:you know, but he'll like, if I, if you were to come in here right now and I were to ask him, he would say, yeah, I'm shooting better with the blade tech. Would he agree with that?
Jamie:I would think so.
Scott:Okay.
Jamie:I think he will say that. Yeah. Yeah. He picks it up every day now. He does not, he will not, he, he doesn't bring to school.
Jamie:He doesn't bring it to practice. He doesn't bring it to outside the chute. He does not touch the twitch anymore.
Scott:Both of you. Just from my own experience, and I'm no sniper myself, but when I started playing
Jamie:As a defenseman?
Scott:Well, there's plenty of defensemen now that are snipers, but that was never
Jamie:my short-tent. No, you just hammered people.
Scott:I did hammer people.
Jamie:Not a bad thing, by the way. Not a bad thing.
Scott:No. Anyway, when I started playing again and I had to get a stick and now I saw like all the different options with sticks. What'd get? I also got curious. I've had a whole bunch of different sticks.
Jamie:Okay. So what are playing with now?
Scott:Right now I'm playing with a true catalyst.
Jamie:Okay. Dom went with the true for a while.
Scott:Yeah. With the hazardous he was using, right?
Jamie:He liked the hazardous and what was the other one? There's the hazardous and no, no, there's another one. There's the, was the project X. Yes. Dominic went with the hazardous for a while.
Jamie:Cause the flex is on the lower end.
Scott:They had like the half. Yes. Like there was like the 25.
Jamie:Yes. And then he went with the project X for a while. It was the hyperlight, the hazardous for, I want say one or two years or year and a half. And then the project X and then the blade tech.
Scott:And then the blade tech. Yeah. So when I was just getting different sticks, I, when I was a kid playing, I never dealt with flex and all this other stuff. Curve for sure was
Jamie:a I would think so.
Scott:But never considered lie or flex or kick point.
Jamie:Things have changed.
Scott:Then when I started playing I was like, Oh, I was curious. And so I got a bunch of different sticks with different curves. And I've had sticks as much as like 105 flex and as low as like 105 or 102, and then as low as like, I think 85,
Jamie:Okay.
Scott:Just to kind of get a feel for whippingness and then different curves. And then now that they have things like a hockey stick man, you can get all the pro stocks with all these like
Jamie:Just no wrapping on them, right?
Scott:Some of them are wrapped as other things, but that's not even the point. The point is that you have access to all these different blades, maximum height blades and all this other stuff.
Jamie:Anyway, so
Scott:I tried a whole bunch of stuff. As far as the flex goes, and again, I don't know how to manipulate a stick, I'll say that straight up.
Jamie:You can probably manipulate it when you hit a slap shot, would think. I would think your flex triggers that.
Scott:But what I'm saying is to pull it in and snap it and get my weight over the center of the stick and really kind of like that's not in my But I found that the curve 100% made a difference. And I'm sharing this only because I probably can manipulate a stick as well as AutoCan at this point.
Jamie:Isn't that impressive on his end?
Scott:Yes, for sure. I guess my point is that like, I'm just trying to relate to where he's like trying to improve his shot and I'm like, okay, well the curve I'll go with that. Like if you're using a 28, was it 28 McDavid's curve, the toe curve?
Jamie:I think so. Yes. Yes. The P 20
Scott:So I think the curve is something reasonable if they're using something and
Jamie:we're Good for stick handling the 28. Cause the curve is pretty friendly, I think.
Scott:It's it's
Jamie:like, it's good for youth players, you know, like six, seven, eight, nine, the 28 curve.
Scott:Well, it's got a, so having the curve primarily at the toe, lot of times, like kids are shooting higher with it.
Jamie:So yes. So the 28, from what I noticed from Dominic, the curve was more friendly for stick handling. When your kids start shooting, they will start air mailing the crossbar. They will start shooting over the crossbar, which is when Dominic went from a 28 to a 90 And then you saw, cause he would, he would be hitting like slap shots and he would be cruising. He would be just air mailing the crossbar, just flying over the crossbar with the 28.
Jamie:When he switched to the 92, the puck just stays low.
Scott:Oh, just as an FYI,
Jamie:not as friendly to stick handling though.
Scott:Bauer's ninety two is the equivalent of CCM's twenty nine.
Jamie:I'm Dominic is, he has mentioned that
Scott:to me. And they're just the inverse.
Jamie:Yes. He has mentioned that to me. It's funny. I, we have not really used CCM sticks for that reason. I don't know why he's used one.
Scott:I was using tax tax. Okay.
Jamie:He's never used a tax. He used the, what is the CCM that was like, it went from like one to two. Thank you. Well, was the Ribcor, was it the, what's the other one? Not the, there was a RIBCORE, but there was something else.
Jamie:It was the CCM and I think it's up to like number nine right now or number 10 right now. They keep making them again.
Scott:Oh, jet speed.
Jamie:Nope, no. It was purple.
Scott:Not Ripcord, not Jet Speed.
Jamie:No, he has it upstairs in his room because he stick handles with it every day. It's up in his room right now.
Scott:Okay.
Jamie:I think he likes the six. It's not Oh, this is gonna drive me crazy. I can't think of what it is right now.
Scott:Anyway. Okay.
Jamie:Yeah. I mean, you can look it up if you want. It's a CCM. It's going to drive me nuts. Look it up for me.
Jamie:Do me a favor.
Scott:I'm looking.
Jamie:But yeah, but yeah. So, so, so Dom, so, so like the schmucky hockey dad that I am, I, I went out and bought Dominic three of the Blade Tech Sticks, the new Blade Tech Sticks. Because he's growing, he needs a gun.
Scott:The Feet six? Nope. But that's Jet Speed.
Jamie:No, it's not Jet Speed. It's the CCA.
Scott:Oh, Trigger.
Jamie:Thank you. The trigger. Yes. That's So he likes the trigger six, which I believe is the purpley one.
Scott:Could be.
Jamie:Yeah. It's upstairs. He used it for stick handling because it has a crack in the blade, but he just stick handles with it. He loves the stick. He doesn't like the new one.
Jamie:He doesn't like the newer one, but he likes the six, the trigger So
Scott:I guess kind of bring this full circle, right? Is like in terms of like gear and kids and like, sticks are something that are, I don't know how to say it. They're something that kids like to show off. They have the newest, latest model. They probably stick, anything that's visible when you don't have your equipment on.
Scott:I mean, when you don't have your jersey and socks on, right? Like the skates and gloves a little less.
Jamie:They like walking into laundry. It's like skates
Scott:and sticks, right? And so I guess at this point, at least for me, I am shying away from diving expensive stuff. Yeah, because truth is like, it's not necessary. He's not Dominic, there yet.
Jamie:$130 stick from Toronto.
Scott:Yeah. And they have like, now there's some
Jamie:more And it's a great stick by the way. And it's a great stick. What I've noticed, it doesn't break down as easy.
Scott:When you say break down, you're talking about like where on
Jamie:the space you're where So a lot of Dominick's sticks would split at like the heel.
Scott:On the heel of the blade?
Jamie:Yeah. A lot of them would split, and just kind of come apart. You know, they would separate. I remember one, we called it the baby rattle. Matter of fact, it's the trigger.
Jamie:The trigger we were talking about, if you go upstairs and you shake it, there's something inside it rattling around.
Scott:A lot of times it's It's
Jamie:baby rattle.
Scott:There's foam or whatever on inside to help the vibration and like something comes off. I have it on my stick too,
Jamie:it's fucking You shake it and it rattles.
Scott:Like baby's out.
Jamie:It's fucking annoying. Yeah. So he won't play with it, but he stick handles with it. But my point is that the blade, in my opinion, the blade tech seems to hold together
Scott:better so far.
Jamie:So far.
Scott:All right. Well, listen, so I guess it's
Jamie:$130 stick.
Scott:Right. So takeaway here is like, for those of you that are getting peppered by their kids, that they want the latest and greatest and all this other stuff. Will be a time and a place when those heavy duty sticks are appropriate, but certainly for the younger age groups. And you probably know if your kids got a shot figured out or not. And for now, like you don't need an expensive stick dude.
Scott:Sorry.
Jamie:I don't think so. My kid would shoot, the puck would tumble as opposed to spin, you know, up until like, I would say this year.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:Then he figured it out for whatever reason.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:And now the puck spins. It doesn't tumble when you're shooting the puck that tumbles. My guess is you're probably not activating the flex and it's probably, you don't need a fancy, fancy stick. Like you can play with jet speed. You can play with a reasonably priced stick.
Scott:Absolutely. Even when you're older, can play with a reasonably priced stick.
Jamie:Dude, just bought five Blade Tech sticks.
Scott:Yeah. That's a lot.
Jamie:Crazy hockey dad.
Scott:You have one for every weekday.
Jamie:Which is not why I did it.
Scott:You need two more.
Jamie:One is a driveway stick. Two are game sticks.
Scott:Yes. You're running out of reason to have sticks.
Jamie:And then, and then I saw on the website, they had happen? So
Scott:he's got a first period
Jamie:stick, a second period no, no, no. It's not
Scott:that Third period stick, a practice stick and a driveway stick. I think I got it.
Jamie:Practice? I feel like I'm in like a yes, I have a hockey problem.
Scott:My name is Jamie.
Jamie:Yeah, exactly. And I have a hockey problem. So I bought him three of the Blade Tech black with the white blade. One for the driveway because I don't want him using his game stick in the driveway because he, like you and I were talking the other day, even though he's shooting off like plastic tile, he always hits the concrete.
Scott:Yeah. No bueno. Always.
Jamie:So which is one of the reasons why we need new stick. So I bought him a one for the driveway, two game sticks because he's really starting to shoot now. So he's been breaking sticks. He actually broke he's broke a couple sticks recently. Really?
Jamie:Before the Twitches, he broke, like, two sticks.
Scott:No way.
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah. Like the Project X, like, snapped two of them.
Scott:You know, Otto broke a stick once. Did he? Yeah. You know how he did it?
Jamie:He smacked it over a crossbar?
Scott:Not even a little bit. He was showing his friends in the lobby of one of the rings that he
Jamie:could flex
Scott:his my god,
Jamie:and he snapped it?
Scott:And he pushed right through it.
Jamie:Had a kid. We had one of our was
Scott:like, dude, you serious? You've just got that stick and you just laid into it and snapped it.
Jamie:We had one of our kids do that last year to the goalie's stick.
Scott:Oof. Yeah. The goalie that was not happening. Well, when you're on the rubber tiles of a rink lobby, the stick doesn't That's
Jamie:where it was. It was in the lobby.
Scott:The stick doesn't slide. It slides on ice. When you're putting pressure down, the rubber is keeping it in place and you're just, you're
Jamie:And all you're doing is putting pressure on it and you're causing
Scott:You're gonna slap
Jamie:it. It did. Snapped brand new gold. It was brand new actually, because he was telling me that Bauer has some sort of a return policy if it breaks within a certain amount of time.
Scott:The warranty.
Jamie:Yeah, I think it was just outside the warranty. So I think he was calling to be like, Hey, listen, cut me some slack here.
Scott:I know nothing about goalie sticks. Does flex even matter?
Jamie:I don't think so.
Scott:I don't think so either.
Jamie:For a 10 year old?
Scott:Well, okay.
Jamie:So we were or 11 at the time, so no.
Scott:So no, even if it is a thing.
Jamie:Even if it is a thing, I don't think it mattered.
Scott:Right. So the question is like, he was just goofing around to see if a goalie stick would No, understand that, but what I'm saying the defenseman was flexing just because of the goalie sticks flex and oops. Probably. Yeah.
Jamie:Yeah. Was definitely an oops. And I, and I'm, I don't know how expensive goalie sticks are, but I'm pretty sure they're not cheap.
Scott:No. But like
Jamie:You know?
Scott:On the equipment front, sticks in particular, you don't necessarily need the top of the line.
Jamie:I don't think so.
Scott:No, I agree. But here's the thing, and this is kind of like segue into the next part of the conversation or part of our, and that's something that kids chirp other kids about, right? Like, Oh, you've got that stick? You know, you still use that piece of garbage. You what, you can't get a nice stick or whatever it is.
Scott:And then you start having kids being bullies, taking on actually
Jamie:segues into our next topic, which is very well done by you. By the way, we are not. We have nothing to do with blade tech blade tech did not tell us to say in this. This is just my, honest review of, of a stick. My kid uses.
Scott:And just as an FYI, I use blade tech blades steel on my skates.
Jamie:Yes, you do. Which are pretty impressive by the way.
Scott:Yeah. They're a little different. They got that like, yeah, to create a little bit more of like
Jamie:spring. Spring is right.
Scott:And I think I was telling
Jamie:you that you're, it's, you're supposed to be 5% faster, which is supposed to equal 10 feet of separation from one end to the other.
Scott:I need 10 feet of separation between myself and my refrigerator. I was just gonna say that. That's what I needed. That's what I needed separation. Maybe I should wear fucking was
Jamie:gonna say your refrigerator too. I knew exactly where you were going with
Scott:Listen, I should wear Blade Tech skates around my house.
Jamie:Good God. That's what happens when you're friends with somebody since you're like four. Yeah. You were very much on the same page. That is very funny.
Jamie:I was going say you're a refrigerator too. You and I are very in sync right now, which is ridiculous. But, yeah, so no, but you're,
Scott:the bullying part
Jamie:that segues nicely into the next, into our next topic, which is bullying, you know? And it's, listen, I don't want say I hate the top. Hate the phrase bullying.
Scott:Why?
Jamie:I don't know. I just do it. It's just kids being schmucky. Kids are schmucky at this age, not all, but a lot.
Scott:Yes. I think that's like a level of
Jamie:Listen, I know everybody likes to say bullying is like a hot topic word these days. You know what I mean?
Scott:I will give you that. And I think it might
Jamie:be It's
Scott:like a buzzword. Overused.
Jamie:That's what I mean. But Listen. It's all the same shit
Scott:out there. I mean, how many times have
Jamie:you No question.
Scott:Like, how many times have you heard a coach say, go out there and bully them?
Jamie:Yeah. Listen. If you're doing it on the on the ice in a in a in a in a game setting, it's fine. But if you're doing it to your teammate.
Scott:No. I understand that. But all That's shitty. The only thing I'm saying is that, like, it's not necessarily just a buzzword.
Jamie:No. No. Right. But when when when you say bullying in The United States these days, it's a buzzword.
Scott:It has a different, definitely a different meaning than when we were kids.
Jamie:That's what I mean. Yeah. That's exactly what
Scott:I mean. You know, once, you know, I overheard a parent saying like, you know, using the word bully was cautioning their child about using that term too loosely. And that if you're gonna label someone as a bully, I don't know, they likened it to like, I don't know what a good analogy is, but they were warning their child, like don't go around saying someone's a bully because there could be blowback on you for like, know, labeling them, something like that.
Jamie:Sure. Listen, listen, you know, my, my kid is, is always the shortest one on his hockey team. Right. You know, so, you know, you know, and kids are stupid at young ages. They just are like kids are schmucks.
Jamie:Not all, but
Scott:a lot.
Jamie:Right? All, but a lot. And they do stupid things and they say stupid things. Right? I'm sure it was the exact same way when we were kids.
Scott:But maybe like, and this is just like popping in my brain now, but like, yeah, they say stupid things and they don't necessarily realize what they're saying sometimes and that comes down to, I think, intent. And when kids are saying, using hateful words with the intent of putting somebody down, think that's different than, I don't know, someone that might, and again, intent is hard to gauge, but I think we've all been in situations where you can tell someone has said something and, you know, really didn't use the right word potentially versus someone that's like using their words as knives.
Jamie:You know, it's funny. So listen, my, my kid, listen, my child, because he's short, kids break his chops because of it. Listen, they broke my chops when I was a kid, but I didn't care about it. You know, like I remember not caring about it. Dominic, I think maybe cared.
Jamie:I think he used to care about it maybe not so much anymore. But I also think that, I think that the kids that do bus chops.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:Okay. In a not nice fashion. Okay. They're doing it because they're insecure about something.
Scott:Sure. I mean, I think they're
Jamie:doing it to make themselves feel a certain way because they're uncomfortable with something going on in their world.
Scott:Yeah. Think that's, that's pretty textbook.
Jamie:Right. So I tell Dominic, I'm like, Dominic, I'm like, you you should feel bad for that person because he has something going on that's clearly bothering him. I said, so don't worry about what he's saying to you because this is nonsense. It's nonsense. It's white noise.
Scott:That's true.
Jamie:Literally it's just horseshit. You know, listen, I know that words can hurt sometimes, but it's horseshit.
Scott:Yes, it is. But like, you're also like 46, So
Jamie:Listen, fair, you know, but I think it's our job as parents to teach our children that it's just a word. And just because somebody says something to you doesn't mean it's true.
Scott:No doubt. Feelings are not facts. Correct. Exactly. But still, doesn't feel good, especially if you're doing it like in a locker room.
Scott:Like if people are like chirping and they're like giving each other a hard time and like, you know, okay.
Jamie:Listen, it happens all the time.
Scott:It happens all
Jamie:the time. In every locker room.
Scott:Yeah, think it takes experience to have that perspective of like, they're just words, but listen, some kids are more sensitive than other kids and some kids couldn't give a fuck if someone's going to call them this, but then other kids it's going be a really big deal. I mean, look, I was a fat kid when we were growing up or I had my moments of being fat and I'll never forget some of the kids that would poke fun of me and it didn't feel good
Jamie:because at
Scott:the end of the day, didn't feel good about myself. And then just to have other kids hold up the mirror in front of me and be like, Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. It's like fuck you bro. Sometimes
Jamie:when people say something that hurts somebody's feelings, sometimes the thing they're saying is true.
Scott:Well, the truth hurts.
Jamie:That's what I mean. No doubt. So, I think you also need to look inward and be like, shit, maybe I need to fix something on mine as well. Right.
Scott:But when you're a kid, don't necessarily have those skills. No question. But I think it comes out as like anger. Least it did for me.
Jamie:Yeah. Listen, I think it does for many kids and as a parent, you know, I think it's our job to teach our kids, you know, and to kind of keep them, you know, dialed in, to what's going on around them. That makes sense. It's a hard topic to kind of play with here.
Scott:Yeah. But I think that the, at least I'll speak for my own experiences so far and if Otto's been in a spot where people have poked fun here and there for whatever reason, I've said similar things like you're saying, people put other people down to make themselves feel better. And at the end of the day, you can't control what anyone else is going to say. You can only control the way you're going to respond to this thing. Correct.
Scott:Throughout the rest of your life, things are going to not feel good. And as annoying is not the right It sucks. And it might be really shitty and it might be really hard, but you need to start being able to process these feelings in a way that's in your best interest. Like when I was a kid, I would process my feelings with anger and irritation that did not serve me well. Otto's not a hothead like I was a hothead.
Scott:But however he's going to deal with it, I'm encouraging him and trying
Jamie:to differently than you did.
Scott:Well, it's not like I'm concerned about him going around and beating up people, but my concern is the way his self talk, for example, and I don't want him to start taking on what other people are saying or because people are saying it doesn't make it true. You know, feelings are not facts.
Jamie:1000%.
Scott:And you can't just start carrying this around and be like, you know,
Jamie:it's true because so and so said so.
Scott:So let's just say like, when I'm a kid and I'm playing hockey, And then my shot sucks compared to everyone else and kids are making fun of me. It's like, just because my shot sucks right now, it doesn't mean it's always gonna suck. That's right. And like, I am encouraging my kids to, it's like what you do with it and what people say. There might be truth
Jamie:in what
Scott:people are saying, but it's the way you respond to it. And that's when you got to take a look at things, take an honest assessment and be like, what am I going to do? If it's true, if, the big if, if it's true, then what am I going to do about it?
Jamie:Nancy tells Dominic about a book called The Magical Yet. I forgot
Scott:that name.
Jamie:So it's, you know, I may not be able to do this yet, but I'm going to be able to do it.
Scott:But you
Jamie:can't do it yet.
Scott:Yet's a huge, I tell my kids all the
Jamie:time, constantly,
Scott:I can't do this. You can't do it yet.
Jamie:Yeah. It's a book for kids, the magical yet.
Scott:Yeah, that's good.
Jamie:Yeah. It just means you may not be able to do it now. You just can't do it yet. Right.
Scott:And that's fine. Everyone gets it at different times.
Jamie:No question about it.
Scott:But then just getting back to the locker room talk and you're already at a point and you've been this way, I'm getting to the point now where parents in locker rooms is definitely No bueno. Sure, no bueno. And I've been in the locker room just enough with a new cast of characters to hear some things that I'm like, Oh. It gets a little Yes,
Jamie:Yes.
Scott:So I I, you know, in terms of the bullying piece, and it's not just implying to high, you know, high school, to to the locker room. Yeah. But even on, like, the schoolyard and whatever. Yeah. You know, I think, you know, we're in in a competitive sport and you've got, like, you know, kids that are saying stupid shit when you're playing a contact sport like hockey.
Scott:I'll never forget some of the shenanigans that I saw in the locker room of kids getting picked on and then ending up in fist the cuffs with their own teammates.
Jamie:Well, we handled the stuff differently back then.
Scott:No doubt. So what are we talking about now? We're talking about our kids being in situations where they've been picked on.
Jamie:So that was my next question. How do you tell your child how to handle himself? Cause I may have a different, I may have a different version of what I tell my kid. Because I feel there's a couple of ways to handle it. Not saying one is more right than the other, but I'm curious to hear your thoughts here.
Scott:I don't Unless there's something I don't know, Otto has not necessarily, it hasn't been subject to real issues. Like there's been a comment here and there that haven't made him feel good but there hasn't been a sustained or a common thread that people have kind of been poking fun at him for. So to that end, haven't had a situation where he was really torn down by his peers and ready to respond in one way or another. So for me But if that were to happen, right, you know, I would tell him honestly, just walk away. I mean, I would tell him to walk away.
Scott:And when I say walk away, it's not necessarily like physically leave the situation, but it's more like, dude, you don't need to engage with that. You don't need to engage. If people are gonna run their mouth, let them run their mouth, just fucking ignore them. I think where things start to get different if there's a threat of violence, like physicality, when we're talking about words, I'm like, dude, just fucking
Jamie:What if they're putting their hands
Scott:on them? That's another fucking story, man. Yeah. Like if So I would never encourage him to go around punching people, but I think it's totally reasonable to say, you know, to give my kid the okay. Like if he was in a situation where he was verbally warning a kid like-
Jamie:Oh, so you and I are on the same page then.
Scott:Yeah, I'm on the same page with you. I just haven't had any situations where it's gotten to that point.
Jamie:Oh, we have.
Scott:Yeah. So tell me about your story.
Jamie:Yeah. So I do not call parents by the way. I know like parents call their parents and say, child's bothering my child. I don't do that. I don't do that.
Scott:Because you want to let your kid handle his
Jamie:I want my kid to handle his own business. I don't want to listen, there's going to come a time where I'm not going to be here to help him. He has to figure it out for himself. You know, I want him to, we talk about doing hard things. I want him to figure it out for himself.
Jamie:So there were, he's been in two instances with two other kids. One was in school and one was in the backseat of a car in Chicago. Yeah. So the one in one in school, was actually there for. Yeah.
Jamie:So, yeah. So, so, all right. So I tell my child, I'm not, I'm not saying that you should tell your kids this, this is just how I do it with my kid. Okay. So, they would like, they would like grab his hat and pull it off his head.
Jamie:Right. Like,
Scott:these are his own teammates.
Jamie:These were, this was like a buddy of his. And he would like throw it in the garbage can, you know? So Dominic was like, dude, like stop.
Scott:Cut the shit.
Jamie:So, so Dominic and I came up with the thing. I said, Dominic, did you tell him once? Stop. I don't like this.
Scott:Yeah. Stop. If they
Jamie:do it again, you warn them. Hey, listen, this is the second time I'm telling you, I don't like what you're doing. You need to stop this. Okay. And then you tell them again, after the second time you say, if this happens one more time, there will be a response for me and you might not like what it is, but I'm warning you.
Jamie:There will be a response from me. And then I give, I give my kid again, I'm not saying this is right or wrong, but my kid has the green light that if he warned somebody clearly. Okay. Twice. I don't like this.
Jamie:You're doing something that I don't like. You're taking something that's my property and you're putting it a garbage can, whatever you're doing. I don't like it. Okay. He does that twice.
Jamie:If it happens third time, he has my permission to open hand, slap that person across the face as hard as he can, not with a fist because you don't want to break anything, but he has my green light to open hand that person across the face. Okay? He did it in school, where he open handed a kid. The kid was the kid was pulling his hair.
Scott:Yeah. Like touching putting your hands on someone else is crossing a fucking Dominic
Jamie:had, not long hair, but longer hair because he wanted his flow. Right?
Scott:Fucking stop. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking
Jamie:They were messing with his flow.
Scott:Listen. If there if there is a reason to hit someone, it's when they fuck with your flow.
Jamie:Exactly. Right. I mean, come on. So Dominic open handed him across the face. Never happened again.
Scott:Makes sense.
Jamie:And the teacher spoke to me. He said, Jamie, he's like, I have no problem with it.
Scott:No shit.
Jamie:Hockey guy from a hockey school. So handled his business. Had no problem with it in public school that would have gone differently. They would have called me. I would have gone down there and I would have said to the principal, where was that?
Jamie:I would have said, Hey, listen, if you want to be mad at somebody, be mad at me because I, I allow him to do that and I'm not going to hide that. Okay. So then we were in, the Brick Windy City for a pre break tournament, Windy City. I was in a, I was in a car. I was in a car, and, with another parent and, we were following the parent that fell through the ceiling on episode six.
Scott:I just tell you
Jamie:something?
Scott:First mistake was following that person.
Jamie:Well, so, so, so in his car were three kids. Okay. So he was driving the three kids in his car and I was driving with another parent, you know, to, to the, to the rink that we're going to, I guess in that car, this child was sitting, against the window and, Oh, love it. And, we're on Instagram.
Scott:Right. Keep going. Sorry.
Jamie:All right. So, so he was sitting on the window and I guess he was again, pulling his hair through yanking his hats, something happened where Dominic warned him twice and said, if it happens again, there's going to be a response from me. He did it again. Dominic leaned over the kid sitting in the middle and open handed the kid across the face. Again, never happened again.
Scott:You know, that's, I'm glad it never happened again. My only concern-
Jamie:Can I tell him like, you need to be prepared for response back?
Scott:Right. And that's where,
Jamie:but most of the time it doesn't happen. Feel Most of the time the kid is so shocked that that was the response that generally I've, from my own experience, it does not, it stops.
Scott:And listen, because you're
Jamie:drawing a line in the sand and you're saying, if you cross this line and I've warned you not to cross this line, we could be friends. But if you cross this line, we have a problem.
Scott:Listen, all makes sense to me.
Jamie:And they're buddies today. No problem with either kid. Amazing. Escapes with Baltimore on Saturday.
Scott:That's amazing.
Jamie:No problem at all.
Scott:I would, my, my
Jamie:only I'm not advocating this for parents out there. I'm just saying how I deal with it with money.
Scott:Listen, if, if, if every time and it would stop at that, then God bless. But my concern ultimately would be that if he, if he did that to the wrong fucking person,
Jamie:listen again,
Scott:and that might happen.
Jamie:There's an, I have told him you need to be ready for a response back. Listen, it happens, which is why he does Brazilian jujitsu.
Scott:Yeah. That also makes sense.
Jamie:Yeah. Listen, you, you, but in my opinion, you need to know how to handle yourself and listen, kids push boundaries. They do with pets and they do with other kids and you need to draw a line.
Scott:That's why they're
Jamie:like, Hey, listen, bud, we're, we could be friends, but when you cross this line, I'm not okay with that. It's the same with adults. It's setting boundaries and that's healthy. It's a healthy thing in life. Communication is big.
Jamie:And unfortunately, if words are not working. And again, don't call parents,
Scott:Scott.
Jamie:I don't do that stuff. I don't call parents, Hey, your child's picking on my kid. I don't do that. I just don't do it.
Scott:Okay. And that's, that's your, you know,
Jamie:I have had parents like call me and I have no patience for it.
Scott:They've called you. What did Dom do?
Jamie:It was an instance where like, some kid like came into a school and like, again, had, you know, he, it was him and his buddy and a new kid came into school one day, like, and I guess, and the father was saying that, that, that, Dominic and his friend were busting the kids chops. They probably were, you know, you know, so, you know, and, and, and I got, I got a, I didn't get a phone call, but I heard about it. Like, I don't have patience for that. Like, you know what, like, have your kid handle it. Have your kid punched my kid in the face.
Jamie:Like have him do listen. If he's being a yo yo, you draw a line in the sand, he'll figure out where the boundary is.
Scott:Yeah. I think, I think like, you know, we've talked a lot about how kids, like there's a lot of growth and maturity that needs to happen. And I'll just speak for myself, my concern would be if one of my kids were to be the person to start the physicality first and not necessarily defend themselves. Again, instigate's not the right word, but be the first one to cross that physical barrier. That's an area where I would have concern about how that might go.
Scott:And look, at the end of day, want my kids getting hurt. I don't want them to hurt other kids. I'm more than fine if they were in a situation where they needed to defend themselves, they do what they needed to do to take care of business, then that's okay. But for me personally, don't know, I haven't really thought about it, to be honest, but I wouldn't encourage, and I'm not saying that you do encourage it, you're not. You're clearly telling your kid to state verbal boundaries multiple times before they go there
Jamie:and keep back No question about it.
Scott:No question. Yeah, I mean, and look, if your kid's doing Brazilian jujitsu and they know how to defend themselves and like that, that's like, it can get, I think there's layers of complexity to that, but I totally get it.
Jamie:Yeah. And listen, I'm advocating for people to do this with their kids. It's just what I do with my child. And my kid doesn't run into that a lot. That was two instances, like four years ago.
Scott:Kids know they're going to get fucked up.
Jamie:Listen, you know, but I got to tell you, you know, when Dominic, when Dominic moved from triple a to the team he's on now, You know, a couple of kids gave him some stick in the first couple of games. He was not very good because he was not really sure. He was not really comfortable yet with the kids and he didn't really know kind of his place yet with the team. And a bunch of them after the first couple of games, they looked him in the locker room and they're like, you didn't play AAA. One of them was like, I looked at your stats of last year.
Jamie:They're like, you weren't very good. And Dominic's like, Dad, are they for real? He had a problem with that. That was the first week or two of him being on this new team.
Scott:There's no way that felt good for him.
Jamie:I'm sure it did not. But he dealt with it and then he had 115 points.
Scott:That's in their place.
Jamie:But then what happened was as he started performing, they shut it down.
Scott:Well, I mean, results talk.
Jamie:Yeah, but it's shitty, right?
Scott:Yeah, and I'm sure there's countless numbers of stories and of things that we couldn't even imagine that some parents have been through. And at the end of the day, I think the most important thing for me at least is that you can't control what other people are going to do. Try is not the right word. I do talk to them as much as I can about their self talk and when you're in these situations, what you're going to do with it. Because my ultimate concern, if, and again, I'm not in a position where I'm even dealing with this, I'm just thinking if I were in a situation, I would just want them to be able to keep their head held up high.
Scott:If there are areas that they need to work on, even if it's being told to them in a way that doesn't feel good, take it for what it is and work on it.
Jamie:Yeah, listen. And again, before we change topics, just want to make something clear. My kid is not like having issues. He had like minor run ins, you know? My kid is a good kid, you know?
Jamie:And doesn't bust chops, you know, he's normally the brunt of it. He's normally catches the brunt of it and then has to deal it. Cause he's a little guy. And listen, and he can play so people poke. You know what I mean?
Jamie:For whatever reason. I think there's a lot of that, by
Scott:the way.
Jamie:You know, he wore a jersey from his old team the other day to practice. And a kid said to him, Why are you wearing that jersey? You're never going be on that team ever again. Tom McFlooke at me. He's like, Sorry,
Scott:what? Again,
Jamie:just schmucky.
Scott:What's your name again?
Jamie:People say stupid things, especially kids. Kids are knuckleheads.
Scott:Right. And how to deal with that
Jamie:know, You need to teach your kid.
Scott:Not every kid has got like, you know, a
Jamie:super armor skin. Right.
Scott:Where everything's going to roll off.
Jamie:No question. Like things are going to make It does. But you know what? If you learn how to deal with it, it makes you a stronger person. The parent child
Scott:to help them through that. Correct.
Jamie:Because it's hard. Middle school is hard. Like it's hard. Kids get mean.
Scott:Yeah. Think part of it also as a parent is like checking in with your kid. I mean, I'm sure there's plenty of kids that experience stuff that,
Jamie:you know That don't tell their parents.
Scott:No, because it doesn't feel good that, you know, they're ashamed or whatever the
Jamie:fear They are. They're embarrassed.
Scott:And it's like that communication piece of like checking in and like even asking so what are things like in the locker room? No. Anyone picking on anyone? Everything okay? All good?
Scott:Any issues? You have to but like ask No,
Jamie:I ask if there's problems.
Scott:And you can tell if your kid is like, well, oh, okay. So what's going on, bud?
Jamie:Dominic knows to stay away from the knuckleheads.
Scott:There's knuckleheads on hockey
Jamie:teams. There's knuckleheads on every hockey team.
Scott:I didn't know that. Every hockey team. Yeah.
Jamie:So we were going to talk superstitions, but we're running long. So let's talk a little NHL and then we'll save our superstitions for next time.
Scott:How's that sound? Yeah, that works.
Jamie:That works?
Scott:Yep.
Jamie:Again, I was going to talk some IIHF world championships, but nobody's watching it because the playoffs are so good.
Scott:I don't know anything about the IIHF other than Sid scored a gross goal.
Jamie:Yeah. I saw The USA is like in the thin third place in group B, I want to say top four for each group go to like a playoff. So you're going to four on one side, four on the other side.
Scott:I'm probably going to watch some highlights at some point.
Jamie:I'm going to as I'm
Scott:sure there's some, some really, some sick hockey being played.
Jamie:Yeah. But in the meantime, the Florida Panthers just beat the shit out of the Maple Leafs. Like, I can't imagine what Biz from spitting checklets is doing right now. He's like on suicide watch and Yandel is probably drinking pink Whitney. He's probably hammering down like a big thing of Pink Whitney right now, and and Biz is probably on
Scott:suicide. Series is getting I
Jamie:mean, Toronto went up two nothing.
Scott:Like, it was And it was easy. It was yeah. Right? I mean, those first two
Jamie:games did not look good. And then Florida comes roaring back, wins to at home,
Scott:and then just beats the shit out of the
Jamie:Maple Leafs in their own building. Scott, final score was six one.
Scott:Wow. They yanked Wall. Mean And Stolarz went like
Jamie:Stolarz is coming back, though.
Scott:He is?
Jamie:He's skating again. Because he
Scott:left on a stretcher the other night.
Jamie:I know. Was really strange, but I'm pretty sure Stolarz is coming back.
Scott:Well, I don't know if he left in a stretcher, but he left in an ambulance.
Jamie:Yeah. There was an issue with him for whatever reason. But, yeah, Wall got pulled for
Scott:For whatever reason, he got an elbow to the head. He was, like, concussed.
Jamie:Wall got pulled for Matt Murray. Remember that name? No. I'm pretty sure Matt Murray used to play for the Penguins.
Scott:Could be.
Jamie:I wanna say he was the Penguins a long time ago, but I didn't even know that he was on the Maple Leafs, be totally honest with you.
Scott:Like, I had no idea. If you told that guy two months ago that he was gonna play
Jamie:He was on the Penguins years ago.
Scott:He probably wouldn't have believed you.
Jamie:It's crazy.
Scott:I mean, with, with Stolars and I mean, that's a great, that's a great tandem.
Jamie:I guess he's the, I guess they activated him as the third goalie. I didn't even know he was on the roster. You know, he was really good with the Penguins years ago, like really good.
Scott:So like he, like
Jamie:he went thirty two and ten one year, 20 seven and 16, 20 nine and 14. Like he was a good goalie.
Scott:Those those are good stats.
Jamie:Yeah. And I guess he, I guess he was on the Senators for two years. He was on Penguins for one, two, three, four, five Ottawa for two. Then Maple Leafs for two. Wow.
Jamie:Only pick two games this year.
Scott:But again, the tandem of Stolar's and Walt is like, that's if you're third in the pecking order.
Jamie:Strange, right?
Scott:You need an injury, which has obviously happened. So that series is hot as fuck.
Jamie:Three, two Florida going to Florida. I mean, could this, could this be a four, two series? If this is a four, two series and you have all that firepower in Toronto, What the fuck happened?
Scott:Honestly, it's not looking good.
Jamie:No, it's bad right now. It's it's listen, I'm not a Maple Leafs fan, but, but I like Austin Matthews because he's an American. Right. So he's team USA. So I like that.
Jamie:But they do not look good right now. And I don't
Scott:know how you're gonna, they just got the shit beat out of
Jamie:them at home in their own building.
Scott:Like
Jamie:where do you that's a, I don't know what happens next. Florida comes out hot series is over.
Scott:Matthew, Matthew, they need, they need Matthews to come alive.
Jamie:He needs to start doing something. I mean, he's been quiet. Maybe he's hurt. He could be hurt and nobody knows. Doubt.
Jamie:Right. I mean, he could have something, any nagging injury. Right. But my goodness, it does not look good right now.
Scott:You know, also looks good? Edmonton.
Jamie:I do not like Edmonton. What
Scott:What do say you don't like that? I don't
Jamie:like them. Want the stars to, I want the stars to come out of the,
Scott:Well, the Stars are also looking very good.
Jamie:They are. Yeah.
Scott:I think Winnipeg can,
Jamie:The Stars are gonna beat the Jets.
Scott:The Stars are going to beat the Jets.
Jamie:I think the Oilers are going to beat Vegas. Vegas. Mark Stone is hurt now, I saw. So I don't think
Scott:Stone did come back the other night.
Jamie:I don't think Stone going play.
Scott:Dude, I love Evander Kane.
Jamie:I heard he showed up in like a Rolls Royce or a Ferrari that day.
Scott:There is some story that I don't know what it is.
Jamie:What is his deal?
Scott:I don't know what his deal is. I mean, definitely has some kind of deal. Was Where
Jamie:did he used to play?
Scott:San Jose.
Jamie:That's it. San Jose with Brent Burns and Joe Pavelski. He was on those teams, right? What it was. It was San Jose.
Jamie:There was an issue with him. There was. I don't remember what it was, but I know there was a problem there.
Scott:I don't know all the details.
Jamie:Neither do I.
Scott:But there was definitely some, some off ice issues.
Jamie:There was an issue.
Scott:Yeah. And Edmonton scoops him up.
Jamie:I think he was somewhere else before that.
Scott:Before Edmonton? I'm pretty sure he went from San Jose.
Jamie:I think you're right. I right. Think they go
Scott:to fucking Corey Perry. Jesus. That guy is old as dirt and he is producing.
Jamie:Listen, he is producing.
Scott:This guy is legit.
Jamie:Listen, he is listen. Yes. You're a % right. And do you know that Bouchard is a, he's only 25.
Scott:Yeah. He's young. I'm pretty
Jamie:sure his contract is open.
Scott:Brandon Crawley.
Jamie:Yeah. Did he play for the Rangers?
Scott:He's from around here. He's a Jersey guy.
Jamie:From Glenrock. Yeah.
Scott:But, so Ranger traffic, no? Or something like Yeah. Played for the Rangers. He scored against the Devils.
Jamie:I mean, everybody scores against the Devils.
Scott:Well, but I'm just saying if you're from Glenrock and you're a ranger and you scores against the Devils, that's pretty awesome. So he had that shooting, dry land shooting
Jamie:business running. On the fake ice, right?
Scott:He played in Hackensack.
Jamie:Oh,
Scott:did? So when he went to the OHL, he played for the London Knights. He was teammates with
Jamie:Major juniors? That's like big time hockey rap.
Scott:But he won a Memorial Cup. He played against Big David. His teammates were Mitch Marner. That's impressive. Evan Bouchard and Matthew Oh
Jamie:my God. That's impressive.
Scott:Like those
Jamie:were 16. They all played for London London Nights
Scott:and they all won a Memorial Cup.
Jamie:That's a serious program. London Nights.
Scott:No doubt. Dale Hunter, I think is, in charge of that program. Remember Dale Hunter?
Jamie:I do. Is that right? That's who runs it over there? Pretty sure. That's a pretty serious program.
Jamie:Like you go there and you're.
Scott:That's like Canadian junior royalty.
Jamie:No question about it. You're going to the NHL. Should be going to the NHL.
Scott:They're serial winners over there. They are by the way. Yeah, in London.
Jamie:But Bouchard is a, I'm pretty sure he's a free agent, like after the season.
Scott:Yeah. I just saw a headline about his contract.
Jamie:Going to command big money. Yeah, he's, you know, he's And the Oilers are projected to be over the cap next year already.
Scott:Well, McDavid's contract, when does that come up?
Jamie:So Connor has two more years at 12 and a half million. Leon,
Scott:just signed
Jamie:Leon's at 8 and a half this year, 14 for the next three.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:I mean, so you would think Bouchard would command a $12,000,000 number as well.
Scott:You know, that guy definitely produces offensively. He's strong defensively. He has his, his moments of being a liability.
Jamie:Yeah. But he can play when he wants to. Can play.
Scott:But you know, when I watch whatever.
Jamie:No, listen, he's he's he made like 3,900,000.0 this year, restricted free agent after the season.
Scott:Yeah. You know, I love on
Jamie:25 years old,
Scott:you know, Arvitsen and what's his name?
Jamie:Are you talking about on the Oilers?
Scott:On the Oilers. Him, remember Lumberg? Remember from last season, Lumberg who played for Florida, now he went to undersized player, but just like full of intensity and grit. Like when I see Arvitsen play reminds me of that. Victor?
Jamie:Yeah. He's been in league for a while.
Scott:Yeah, no doubt.
Jamie:He's on 4,000,000 for two more.
Scott:So Arvitsen. All right. So that's so.
Jamie:Yeah. They're gonna have to pay him though. And again, they're gonna have to pay, Prashard next year.
Scott:So there's only one of the series we didn't talk about and that's the, the caps, Carolina series.
Jamie:It's over. The Carolina Panthers are Carolina Panthers. Oh my God. Football Carolina Panthers. The Carolina Hurricane are a far superior team in my opinion.
Jamie:I mean, the Capitals had a really nice season, but I don't even think it's a series. I don't. I think that, think that, just my opinion,
Scott:they met their match. Yeah. They met their match.
Jamie:Yeah. Mean, they, they, they mowed the devils down. Like it was nothing. I didn't think it was going be as easy to mow down the capitals as it was to mow down the devils.
Scott:Agreed.
Jamie:But they are the faster, stronger team. They just are, they're more skilled. I mean, if you look at their roster, you know, with Ajo and Svechnikov and, you know, guys like Stankov and guys like,
Scott:Slavin.
Jamie:Thank you. I was I was blanking. Yes. Slavin. I mean and listen.
Jamie:And and, I'm pretty sure Freddie Anderson has, one of the best save percentages in the playoffs. You know who has the worst save percentage right now? Hella Buck has the worst save percentage.
Scott:Worse than Stuart Skinnard?
Jamie:I think so.
Scott:Really?
Jamie:I saw a graphic the other day. I think Anderson was up top
Scott:and Hella
Jamie:Buck was
Scott:down top. Was the graphic just like a sad face emoji? Dude,
Jamie:what is the story with him in the playoffs? I
Scott:don't know, but it's like one's an accident, two's a coincidence, three's a pattern, man.
Jamie:Listen, is Matthews the same issue? Austin Matthews? I mean, do you know what this feels like? It feels like fucking Aaron Judge. I'm a Yankee fan and Aaron Judge in the playoffs last year was shit.
Jamie:But during the season, he bats 400 and hits, you know, 90 home runs.
Scott:Well, listen. It's yeah. Yeah.
Jamie:And the guy's an animal during the regular season, but the playoffs, he fucking disappears. And then a guy like Giancarlo Stanton in the regular season is shit. He's the MVP of the playoffs. I mean, it's just funny how some guys rise to the occasion and these are pros. These are professional ball players, professional hockey players, you know, and they're superstars in their craft.
Jamie:Like Hella Buck's superstar.
Scott:Total superstar.
Jamie:You know? I just don't I don't know, man.
Scott:Maybe it's nerves. I mean, only they know their kryptonite is. At least I would say that I want
Jamie:it's listen.
Scott:I want to see greatness continue and rise to the occasion of the playoffs. When it doesn't happen, it's really easy to get on them. But at the end of the day, both Matthews and Hollabaugh, like, yes, there's a dent in their armor like right now, little bit, they're still so good. So good.
Jamie:So yeah. So we'll wrap it up. You know, thank you everybody for listening. Please share the show. We are now on Instagram, right?
Scott:Yep.
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Jamie:So thank you again, Scott. I appreciate you coming at this time of the night and we'll see you the next episode.
Scott:Next episode, Scott. See you, bud. Good night. Later.