Uptown Voices

Former U.S. Ambassador to Spain and White House Chief of Staff to Dr. Jill Biden, Julissa Reynoso, shares how growing up in the South Bronx and Washington Heights shaped a trailblazing career in law, diplomacy, and now — playwriting.

What does it take to go from a seven-year-old immigrant arriving in the South Bronx to serving as U.S. Ambassador to Spain and Chief of Staff to the First Lady of the United States? For Julissa Reynoso, the answer lies in the streets of New York City, a relentless commitment to community, and the belief that government can — and must — be a force for good.

In this landmark episode of Uptown Voices, hosts Octavio Blanco and Led Black sit down with Ambassador Reynoso for a wide-ranging conversation that takes us from Dominican Republic to the halls of the Obama and Biden White Houses. We explore how advocating for immigrant rights at the Northern Manhattan Immigrant Rights Coalition shaped her legal and diplomatic instincts, how the diversity of New York City became her first classroom in international relations, and why she chose to tell her high-stakes diplomatic story through the unexpected medium of theater.

Ambassador Reynoso opens up about her play Public Charge, which chronicles her experiences during the Obama administration — including navigating the 2010 Haiti earthquake response and the secret negotiations that helped reestablish U.S.-Cuba ties. She also speaks candidly about the current political climate, the targeting of immigrant communities, the prospect of military action against Cuba, and the timeless advice she offers to young people of color who find themselves as the only one in the room.

This is an essential listen for anyone who believes that where you come from doesn't limit where you can go.

⏱ TIMECODE CHAPTERS
00:00  Cold Open  —  Ambassador Reynoso on the immigrant community and the responsibility we share
00:58  Welcome & Show Milestones  —  Host Octavio Blanco announces 500-subscriber goal and fiscal sponsorship by Maysles Documentary Center
03:05  Introducing Ambassador Julissa Reynoso  —  From Dominican Republic to Washington Heights — a daughter of uptown
03:55  From the Heights to the Heights of Diplomacy  —  Led Black asks: How does a girl from DR rise to the pinnacle of leadership?
05:27  Growing Up in the South Bronx  —  Arriving in New York City in 1982 — the neighborhood that shaped a worldview
06:15  Washington Heights & Columbia Law School  —  Moving uptown, building community roots, and discovering foreign policy
07:17  Advocating for Immigrant Rights at NMCIR  —  How frontline legal work for neighbors fueled a life of public service
09:01  From Diplomat to Playwright  —  The story behind Public Charge and why theater was the right vehicle
11:54  Why Theater Over a Memoir?  —  The power of live performance and the transformation of storytelling on stage
13:05  Street Smarts & Secret Diplomacy  —  How New York City life prepared her for high-stakes international negotiations
15:11  Government as a Force for Good  —  Can we still believe in public service? Staying optimistic under the Trump administration
16:00  The Immigrant Community Today  —  Profiling, targeting, and discrimination — and the collective responsibility to do better
17:07  Cuba at the Brink  —  The Senate's blocked war powers resolution and what military escalation means for the Caribbean
19:45  Chief of Staff to Dr. Jill Biden  —  Living through COVID-19 and January 6th — and what she gained from the East Wing
21:05  Advice for Young People of Color  —  On imposter syndrome, humility, relationships, and showing up in rooms where you're the only one
23:21  Closing & Final Words  —  Gratitude, encouragement, and a call to subscribe and support Uptown Voices

📋 FULL SHOW NOTES

About Ambassador Julissa Reynoso
Julissa Reynoso is a Dominican-American lawyer, diplomat, and now playwright who has served at the highest levels of the U.S. government. Born in the Dominican Republic, she immigrated to the United States at age seven, settling first in the South Bronx before later moving to Washington Heights when she attended Columbia Law School.

Her career spans community legal advocacy, presidential appointments, and international diplomacy. She served as U.S. Ambassador to Uruguay during the Obama administration, and was later appointed U.S. Ambassador to Spain and Andorra by President Biden — one of the most significant diplomatic postings in the Western world. Before that posting, she served as Chief of Staff to First Lady Dr. Jill Biden during one of the most turbulent periods in modern American history, encompassing the COVID-19 pandemic and the January 6th Capitol attack.

Her play, Public Charge, draws on her firsthand experience navigating U.S. foreign policy during the Obama years, including the U.S. response to the 2010 Haiti earthquake and the groundbreaking secret negotiations that led to the reestablishment of diplomatic ties with Cuba.

Key Themes in This Episode
  • The immigrant experience as preparation for global leadership

  • How New York City's radical diversity is a masterclass in diplomacy

  • Using the arts to tell complex, underrepresented stories

  • The power and limits of U.S. foreign policy in Latin America and the Caribbean

  • Standing firm as a woman of color in predominantly white spaces

  • Why humility and long-term thinking matter more than quick wins

  • The ongoing struggle for dignity and safety in the Latino community
Organizations & References Mentioned
  • NMCIR — Northern Manhattan Immigrant Rights Coalition: Community legal organization where Ambassador Reynoso began her advocacy career

  • Maysles Documentary Center — Uptown Voices' new fiscal sponsor, enabling tax-deductible contributions

  • Uptown Collective — Founded by Led Black; YouTube channel approaching 500 subscribers

  • Columbia University — Where Ambassador Reynoso attended law school and first settled in Washington Heights

  • Public Charge — Ambassador Reynoso's play about her experiences in the Obama State Department

  • U.S.-Cuba normalization — The 2014-2016 effort to reestablish diplomatic relations after decades of estrangement

  • 2010 Haiti Earthquake — A pivotal moment in U.S. Caribbean foreign policy that features in Public Charge
Notable Quotes
"I never assume that I'm done. I always keep pushing myself." — Ambassador Reynoso
"My view of foreign policy and politics — they were carved and molded by my time in Washington Heights." — Ambassador Reynoso
"New York City is a very extraordinary experiment in how to make different people talk to each other." — Ambassador Reynoso
"The profiling, the targeting, the discrimination, the hate is not okay. We collectively have a lot of responsibility." — Ambassador Reynoso
"Military action usually does not work. Dialogue is the way." — Ambassador Reynoso on U.S.-Cuba policy
"Most of the things I've gotten have been through my relationships and my loyalty to people." — Ambassador Reynoso

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Creators and Guests

Host
Led Black
Host
Octavio Blanco

What is Uptown Voices?

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Julissa Reynoso (00:00)
we definitely have seen real challenging times and sad moments, especially for the immigrant community and Latinos in particular over the last ⁓ year and a half. ⁓ I hope we collectively learn from that. this is not okay. The profiling, the targeting, the discrimination, the hate is not okay.

And we collectively have a lot of responsibility to make sure our families and their children are part of a society that is much better than what we have right now.

Octavio Blanco (00:58)
Welcome back to Uptown Voices where we amplify the stories and the people that make this community the heartbeat of New York City. I'm your host, Octavio Blanco, and I'm so excited for tonight's conversation. But before we bring in our special guest, we have some major news to share about the future of this podcast. First, we are incredibly close to a huge milestone. We're approaching 500 subscribers on the Uptown Collective YouTube page. This isn't just a number. This benchmark is a crucial step towards

long-term sustainability of the series of the end of stories that we tell here if you haven't if you haven't already

Please hit that subscribe button right now and help us get over the finish line. And to keep this momentum going, we have another big announcement. Uptown Voices is now officially a fiscally sponsored project of the Maisel's Documentary Center. This means we are now able to accept tax deductible contributions to support our production. You'll see a QR code on your screen right now. Scanning that is the easiest way to invest in local media and to help keep these Uptown Voices loud and clear.

We appreciate the support more than we can say. Now let's get into tonight's episode. Tonight we are honored to sit down with the true daughter of Uptown, Ambassador Julissa Reynoso's story is the quintessential Washington Heights immigrant story. She arrived here from the Dominican Republic at just seven years old, finding her footing right here in the streets of Washington Heights. ⁓ But even as she negotiated, so, ⁓

It was in this neighborhood, its resilience, its complexity, and its deep sense of community that became her first classroom in diplomacy. ⁓ You know, she didn't just grow up here. She fought for her neighbors here, beginning with the career at NMIC and advocating for the legal rights of immigrants in northern Manhattan. ⁓

Ambassador Reynoso, ⁓ there's so much more to say about your life and career. We're gonna into that in this episode. Welcome to the show. How are you today?

Julissa Reynoso (03:05)
Thank you. I'm

fabulous. Thank you for having me ⁓ be part of this great initiative with the Outtown Voices. I'm very grateful for the opportunity and I ⁓ congratulate you on hitting the milestone with followers.

Octavio Blanco (03:21)
Thank you. Thank you. And my partner here, Led Black, is the voice of Uptown, unofficial voice of Uptown. And he's really the cornerstone of ⁓ this program. been really there for the community ⁓ for his whole life. And he created Uptown Collective ⁓ more than 10 years ago and has a really, really strong following Uptown. People really like to hear from him. And that's why we're doing this program together. So Led,

I'll let you take it from here. You get the first question.

Led Black (03:55)
First of all, Ambassador Reynoso, it's a real honor to have you here, know, a daughter of Dominican Republic, a daughter of uptown. You know, my question is, like, how do you go from, you know, small town Dominican Republic to the heights, to the heights of, like, leadership? What's that trajectory like? How do you do that? and you're still so humble and now you have a play. What's the central thing that keeps you doing all these things?

Julissa Reynoso (04:24)
Well, I try to just work at everything I get. I'm open to learning continuously from people and experiences. I never assume that I'm done. I always keep pushing myself and ⁓ try to experience every part of my existence, be that as a

you know, as a lawyer, a student, a community person, a family member, a friend, as really an enriching experience on its own. And my story, my history growing up in partly in the Dominican Republic and obviously coming here as a young seven-year-old to New York City, you know, really shaped the way I view the world and how I think. And so that's really been essential to my continuous

growth and how I deal with problems and approach different opportunities.

Led Black (05:27)
And if I may piggyback on that Octavio really quick, know, sometimes, you know, neighborhood like Washington Heights is where we look down upon, right? Like, you know, we don't matter, but what about growing up in this neighborhood prepared you for the life of diplomacy and just excellence, excellence that you have lived so far?

Octavio Blanco (05:28)
That's, yeah, go for it.

Julissa Reynoso (05:46)
So I'm gonna correct you for a little bit. I actually grew up, came to the South Bronx. I know, I know it's a rival neighborhood, but I grew up in this. I arrived in the South Bronx in 1982 and I spent my childhood, know, obviously traveling a lot to Dominican Republic, every opportunity I had. And then when I got to, as a young adult, I moved to Upper Manhattan, to Washington Heights.

Led Black (05:55)
We still cool with the X. We cool with the X. ⁓

Julissa Reynoso (06:15)
When I went to law school, when I went to Columbia, I moved to Wadsworth near your street and then Bogard's place. And then I spent a good number of years, gosh, probably a decade or so in Upper Manhattan, working ⁓ with the community, practicing law, learning the law and then practicing it. And I learned tremendously from my different ⁓

Led Black (06:24)
Yeah, my neck of the woods.

Julissa Reynoso (06:45)
contacts and groups that I belonged to and people who came from all walks of life who ended up in upper Manhattan and had really become civically engaged with organizations, with political parties, with organizing. ⁓ And so I really felt like my world was shaped, especially my view of foreign policy and politics. There were...

They were carved and molded by my time in Washington Heights.

Octavio Blanco (07:17)
Yeah, I was going to just ask you a little bit about that, a little bit more. Your early career, you were deeply involved with NMIC, the Northern Manhattan Coalition for Immigrant Rights. Or I'm sorry, the NMCIR, not NMIC, NMCIR. Yeah. And so you saw a lot of the legal struggles that your neighbors had firsthand. How did that influence your decision to get into public service?

Julissa Reynoso (07:27)
Yes, yes, the Roman and immigration coalition, yeah.

I am, I always, you know, growing up in the Bronx, obviously a very poor neighborhood and then ⁓ doing work as a older, as a young adult in Upper Manhattan, I felt that there was this city has, and then working in, you know, Midtown, working with so much wealth, I really felt like we were, you know, was living a very privileged life. ⁓ But also couldn't, I couldn't understand kind of how the ⁓

how we were faced with so much disparity and inequality in this city with so much differences in opportunity and economic kind of ⁓ livelihood, really. So I thought that I could do something about it and I've had to. I felt it was my obligation to be as helpful to people as possible given all the opportunities the country and the city had given me as an immigrant.

So I always kind of try to navigate my life as a professional and a lawyer and someone who went to very good schools with my ⁓ relationship and my obligation and commitment to see if I can improve ⁓ the community's ⁓ kind of realities. And that's what I've tried to do.

Led Black (09:01)
Ambassador Reynoso, let me ask you question though. Like our life of diplomacy, of being a lawyer, how do you go from that to being a playwright, I guess, you know what I mean? Like your play Public Charge chronicles your time in the Obama administration. You know, how'd you get there? What's it like seeing yourself, you know, in a play? Talk to us about that.

Julissa Reynoso (09:07)
Yeah.

Yeah.

So I am a big fan of... ⁓

you know, of the arts and using the arts as a method, as a vehicle to improve ⁓ our existence and our story and telling our story. Oftentimes our stories are not told or if they're told, they're very limited or the story of, you know, not our complexity. And I thought that through the arts, especially for me, storytelling, writing,

has always been a very useful tool to kind of showcase the diversity of our experiences as a community. So ⁓ I decided to write a play with the help of a friend and it was not easy, but it's a lot of work, a lot of work to want to write it, but also make sure it's actually staged.

Octavio Blanco (10:21)
Yeah

Julissa Reynoso (10:27)
and that people like it, which, know, all those things are not necessarily, you know, ⁓ the same thing. But I am really happy to say that, you know, I'm proud of what I did and I think people enjoyed it and they hopefully learned something and also showed kind of our story, or at least part of our story or the collective.

kind of experience of people in New York City and how we do things that are interesting and distinct. And we are, we do all types of things. We're lawyers, we're home, you know, we work at home, we're cab drivers, we're also diplomats. And so that's what I wanted to showcase. And in it, also you will see there's a big, there's very important scenes in the neighborhoods, especially in the Bronx. And because I did learn a lot.

from my surroundings and my exposure to foreign policy from talking to my family and to my neighbors.

Octavio Blanco (11:31)
Yeah, yeah, a lot of secret meetings in dark places and maybe not so dark places. think, yeah, the play touches on the 2010 Haiti earthquake and reestablishing ties with Cuba, right? So.

Julissa Reynoso (11:37)
Yeah, it was all over the place. Yeah.

Yes, that's right.

Yes, amongst other

things, yeah, there were, these were some of the foreign policy problems I had to face.

Octavio Blanco (11:54)
Yeah, and so why is it important to tell about these high stakes diplomatic stories through theater rather than like simply a memoir or something like that?

Julissa Reynoso (12:05)
I, you know, with theater, you could be a lot more creative, you know? I mean, this is, know, like anything else, it's based on a true story, but there are things that you have to kind of tell in a way that makes sense to say. It's not like a transcript, right? There's a level of creativity and art that has to be showcased. I just thought it was a, and also every night,

I saw the play enough to know that every night the actor is going to do something different with a word. And I think that level of transformation and imagination is really fun. And so that's why thought I would do it through a play. It's probably harder to pull it off as a play because, you know, again, you got to do all this stuff. And frankly, you know, it's not like a book that you can pick up and then put it down and read it again. The play is there.

and then it's over. And then hopefully you'll see it, you know, somebody else will produce it, but for the most part, it's, you you can see it for X number of, for a period of time. So anyway, that's why I decided to do a play.

Octavio Blanco (13:05)
Yeah.

Let can I just follow up real quick? So, you know, one of the interesting things that I learned about you is that you had all these secret meetings and I wonder like, how does like growing up in Washington Heights where things are kind of, you know, I think you have to have a certain level of like street smarts and street knowledge. How does that sort of like influence like your actual, ⁓ you know, ⁓

Led Black (13:20)
Go ahead. Yeah.

Julissa Reynoso (13:26)
Yeah.

Octavio Blanco (13:43)
work and your these meetings and and having secret meetings and going being somebody that's behind the scenes and actually you know doing things that are that are quiet on the quiet side.

Julissa Reynoso (13:50)
Yeah, no, yes, no,

I look, as I said, I think ⁓ that level of, ⁓ you know, common sense and ⁓ street smart, if you will, like being able to navigate really hard things. Obviously there things that are academic that you have to learn, the books and the reasoning and the vocabulary are things you have to study. Then you got to.

put in the hours and the days and become ⁓ a scholar, if you will. But there are other things that are not necessarily learned in textbooks, and that is kind of navigating diverse, complex, hard things. And in the New York life, as you all know, there's so many people here from all over the world, and so many differences, and so many backgrounds, and so many ideologies, religions, ⁓ ethnicities, races.

And they're all here. And this is a very extraordinary experiment on human in how to make different people talk to each other. That in most, in other parts of the world, they may not be so open to. So I've learned a lot about diplomacy and coexistence by having, because of my time in New York City growing up here.

Led Black (15:11)
Ambassador Reynoso, I gotta say, first of all, you are such an inspiration to so many, right? To come from where you come from and to reach the levels, to go from the heights to the heights of diplomacy is amazing. But I wanted to ask you a question about continuing with the play. ⁓ One of the things that, one of the core themes of the play is the belief that government can be a force for good.

Julissa Reynoso (15:15)
Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Led Black (15:36)
You know, right now, with what we're going under the Trump regime, how do you maintain that optimism? How do you feel about where we're at now as a country, as a nation, as a people?

Julissa Reynoso (15:46)
Well, you know, I mean, the country has faced really challenging times in the past. ⁓ I'm a big fan of this country. Obviously, it's given me every opportunity in the world, really. I believe we are people of good. Like any other democracy, we make mistakes. I am hopeful and have a lot of faith that this will get to a better place.

But we definitely have seen real challenging times and sad moments, especially for the immigrant community and Latinos in particular over the last ⁓ year and a half. ⁓ I hope we collectively learn from that. is, this is not okay. The profiling, the targeting, the discrimination, the hate is not okay.

And we collectively have a lot of responsibility to make sure our families and their children are part of a society that is much better than what we have right now. And so we as a significant portion of the population, we need to learn from what we did and we learn from our mistakes and hopefully through our vote and through our voices ⁓ can change the direction of the country for the better.

Octavio Blanco (17:07)
Yeah, that's very, very well said. I'd like to move a little bit to present day. Your play looks...

Julissa Reynoso (17:16)
huh.

Octavio Blanco (17:20)
at a time when we reestablishing ties with Cuba. But then if you just turn the headlines ⁓ to just in the last 24 hours, the climate has shifted dramatically. The Senate just blocked a war powers resolution that would require Congress to ⁓ approval for any military action against Cuba. ⁓ So given your history of building bridges in the region, how do you process this?

Julissa Reynoso (17:35)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Octavio Blanco (17:49)
this shift towards this potential military escalation? What does this path mean for the Cuban people and for the stability of the Caribbean as a whole?

Julissa Reynoso (17:59)
Yes, so, you know, I'm not there in the government right now. I'm thankfully here in New York City with you all. I know these are very hard and complicated decisions. We've been trying to get Cuba to a better place for a long time. Some things have worked, many things have not. I think military action ⁓ usually, usually does not work.

Octavio Blanco (18:06)
You

Julissa Reynoso (18:28)
We ⁓ have the record that shows that, not just in Cuba, in most parts of the world, unless it's essential and again, unless it's, are, you know, there's a direct threat to the country, which I don't see right now. So I think there has to be a better way to deal with this, to reduce the suffering of the Cuban people, but also to have dialogue with, you know, to ensure that we ⁓ minimize violence ⁓ and that type of military aggression.

Because we don't win, know, people who suffer the most are usually the most vulnerable when there is conflict And and ultimately in the long run, it doesn't it doesn't really get you much But a lot of anger and bad and bad blood So I really hope that you know, given all the necessities that the Cuban the Cuban government the Cuban people will ⁓ Figure out a way to speak to talk to this administration

and advance what I think is in their best interest, which is to open up the country, to change. But I also know that if the US thinks that military action is the way to do it, that has not worked in the past. I don't, I am, you know, there has to be a better way. And I think that their dialogue is the way to do this.

Led Black (19:45)
Ambassador, I know your time is short. I was going to ask you a few more questions. Yeah, really quickly. So you were chief of staff to Dr. Joe Biden during incredibly tumultuous time. COVID-19, you know, January 6th. What was the most rewarding of that complicated, you know, that time in the East Wing? Tell us what did you gain from that? Like what was the biggest takeaway for you?

Julissa Reynoso (19:46)
Yes, unfortunately.

Yeah, wonderful, wonderful human being.

Yeah.

Well,

I love her. She's just a wonderful, wonderful human being, a really, really special person. I wish more people would know her. I just think she's fantastic. say that again.

Led Black (20:19)
I think I liked her more than him sometimes. Yeah.

Octavio Blanco (20:21)
Mm.

Led Black (20:22)
I think I liked her more than him sometimes. But yeah.

Julissa Reynoso (20:24)
Well, you know, we all have our, we all have our choice, our interests and our choices. Anyway, I love her and

I know her well and think she's the world of her. So getting to know Dr. Biden and her, and her vision was really wonderful. Obviously being exposed to the White House and what it does and how it works and the, you know, the president thankfully gave me a lot of opportunity to learn as a, about domestic policy, foreign policy, the Washington.

It was extraordinary, the whole experience. ⁓ I mean, I was there for a year and a little bit, a year and change, and then I went to Spain. But it was one of the most impactful times of my life.

Octavio Blanco (21:05)
And I know that, like Led said, we're short on time, but for young people who may see you as an example or a blueprint, do you have any advice for them, especially for those who grow up uptown? Young women, young men who might be, sometimes they might be the only person of color in the room.

Julissa Reynoso (21:10)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Octavio Blanco (21:30)
How do they show up? How do they fight against imposter syndrome? What's your advice about that kind of stuff?

Julissa Reynoso (21:34)
Yeah.

Very good, Davío. We all face our own challenges and our own insecurities. That's just, I think, the nature of the beast. ⁓ I have also, obviously, faced my own, you you're questioning, am I supposed to be here? Do I know what I'm doing? And then you move on. So, I mean, it's okay to feel that way.

And I think making sure you understand that, know, most of us, you you got to do the best you can, assume that you always have to be open to learning. And there are things that don't assume you know everything because you don't. But these challenges, and they will be, and they have been, will really, I think, allow people like us to learn more.

I got very lucky because I had so many opportunities in the 80s and 90s when I was growing up and getting into great schools. Things have gotten harder, I think, for a lot of young people. But I do believe that with humility and open-mindedness and love and relationships, are, mean, for me, most of the things I've gotten have been through my relationships and my loyalty to people.

are really, I think, essential. And you may not see the return in the short term, like tomorrow or next week, but in the long term, I think that's the best way to move forward. And then just continuously learn and read and be open to kind of new opportunities.

Led Black (23:21)
Ambassador Reynoso, thank you so much for being on the show. We really appreciate it. likewise, good luck with everything you're doing. Mad love. Really, really appreciate you. Thank you.

Julissa Reynoso (23:24)
Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. It's been a pleasure. Thank you.

All right, it's been a pleasure. Take care.

Octavio Blanco (23:31)
Yeah, thank you for your time. Bye

Led Black (23:34)
Thank

Octavio Blanco (23:34)
bye.

Led Black (23:34)
you. She dropped off. Did we lose the content or we got it?

Octavio Blanco (23:37)
says 99 % uploading.

I she shoehorned us in there. Let me, me. ⁓

Led Black (23:46)
Yeah. And we got to we got to like

a proper ending to this thing, right? Because we just kind of just started talking, think.

Octavio Blanco (23:53)
Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, that's right. So, ⁓

Led Black (23:57)
So there you have it folks. Thank you for tuning in. was a big get Octavio. This was on you brother. Thank you so much. Make sure you subscribe to the channel. Give us a like, share, tell your people about it. Like stop, you know, stop playing. Spread that love. We're trying to reach a milestone. All right y'all. Thank you.

Octavio Blanco (24:01)
you

Yeah, spread

that love. Thank you, thank you.