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Let’s talk about the concept of ease … and what it does NOT mean.

For some, ease may mean that things are always easy.

That they never have rough moments or go through things that are hard.

They imagine a life that is free of anything they don’t want, don’t like, or can’t cope with.
Here’s the thing, though, ease is NOT the same as easy.

Ease, as a verb, means making things less difficult or less painful.

To do something that allows life and events in it to flow smoother, better, and more freely.

I recently had an insightful conversation with the lovely Megan Seamans, who has helped hundreds around the globe through her work as a Life Coach, Energy Coach, and Human Design Guide.

Megan said something during our conversation that resonated so deeply with me:

“Ease is just creating that flow in your life. It's not about ‘life is going to be easy all the time’. But I do truly believe that even in our hard seasons, even in our heavy seasons, that we can have ease. We don't have to have excess pressure. We don't have to feel like we're going to burn everything to the ground just because life gets a little lifey. Because life WILL keep doing that … and we can have ease and flow along the way.”
And that was just the first of many beautiful insights Megan shared with us.

In this episode of the Choosing Ease Podcast, we talk about:
  • The ironic magic of leaning into the uneasy feelings we usually try to get away from in order to get back to a state of ease … and a simple journaling exercise to help you do that

  • A breakdown Human Design, the 5 types, how it can help you lean more into your YOUness, and how coaches can use their knowledge about Human Design to serve their clients on a deeper level

  • Something I learned about myself as a Manifesting Generator that has played a huge role in how I view (and run) masterclasses

  • The concept of Human Design shadows . . . and the POWERFUL belief Megan has around spaciousness and allowing people to come to important realizations in their own timing

  • The somatic connection between Human Design and energy work . . . and how to connect the “in your head” nature of Human Design to your body and sensory feelings

  • What happens when you not only listen to your intuition or inner voice, but also start saying YES to it

My conversation with Megan was so good that I didn’t want it to end. I’m sure you’ll have the same experience! There are so many wonderful takeaways waiting for you.

Tune in to the full episode.

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What is The Embodied & Wealthy Podcast?

A podcast for multi-skilled coaches and experts who are ready to leverage their unique expertise, create money overflow all while embodying ease. Real conversations about integration, embodiment, and building a business that honors all of who you are. Solo episodes, guest interviews, and guided meditations.

Relinde Moors:

I'm here today with Megan. I am so excited to have you here in a space. Thank you so much, Megan, for making this time. Megan and I met in New York a while ago, and I just I follow you. It's so beautiful to follow your life journey and everything that you do.

Relinde Moors:

Megan works with Human Design and she is a certified life and energy coach. She helps big hearted humans create success without the stress of comfort zones, people pleasing, or burning out, getting in the way. She teaches clients how to integrate their human designs so they can balance out into life on purpose. And after helping 100 of humans around the globe, Meghan's been named the clarity queen. I love that.

Relinde Moors:

As her coaching helps crystallize their vision into reality, no overwhelm required. Centered on ease, she loves holding space for clients to get unstuck and finally live their extraordinary moments. I love this. For the choosing ease podcast, I think you're in the right place. Welcome, Meghan.

Megan Seamans:

I do think I'm in the right room. That's one of my favorite words.

Relinde Moors:

So good. Tell me about it. What what does it mean for you?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. For me, ease is just creating that flow in your life. It's not about life is going to be easy all the time, but I do truly believe that even in our hard seasons, even in our heavy seasons, that we can have ease. We don't have to have excess pressure. We don't have to feel like we're going to burn everything to the ground just because life gets a little lifey because life will keep doing that.

Megan Seamans:

And we can have ease and flow along the way.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. Beautiful. I'm going to ask you a question that I actually always ask at the end, but I feel inspired to ask it right now, It's just how what is your way or maybe ways because I feel this is actually such an intimate intimate question. Like, how do you get back? Like, when you lose ease, what is your personal way to, to get back into that?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. I love this question. You know, something I've been embracing a lot recently is not trying to skip the feeling that we usually want to skip. So whatever is bringing me out of ease, whether it's frustration or annoyance or anger or sadness, like really leaning into that. Because I think so often how we create excess hard and how we, like, take ourselves way far out of ease is we try to skip past those hard seasons or those hard moments or those, quote hard feelings.

Megan Seamans:

And we're like, I just need to get back to neutral or I need to get back to happy. But there's actually so much magic and leaning into the frustration and leaning into the anger, whatever it is that's taken you out of that ease and really hearing it out, listening to it. I love my journal. It's one of my favorite ways to process. And one of my favorite exercises in there is, you know, if my frustration could talk, what would it say?

Megan Seamans:

And I just let it go. And that's kind of, that's my first step to process. From there, I'll do the lovely things like go get myself on a beach walk or get my feet in the grass. I find that being outside can dissipate so much, for me and just bring me back to my center. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

I love that. That's so valuable to first lean into it because we all wanna go away from like, oh, this is uneasful. It doesn't feel comfortable to lean into it. Yeah. I'm right away curious, like, how did you or how do you help your clients do that?

Relinde Moors:

Because I think we need to have the tools or skills or something to be able to actually lean into then?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. I think, you know, the first thing I help my clients really do is to get to know themselves again, because I think when you're so rooted and centered in you, then it's easier to face some of these feelings because you understand your flavor of these feelings. I think so much of why we try to run past these feelings is because of the labels that we've put on them. Like, Oh, I'm angry and that's bad. Oh, I'm sad and that's weak, but whose story actually is that?

Megan Seamans:

And so getting to know you and then getting to know how those feelings land for you and then removing the labels from whatever, from everything. We're removing the labels from everything. Like stop labeling things as good or bad and just start being present with them.

Relinde Moors:

Do you have a story maybe from a client or from yourself that you can share with us? What can that look like? I'm really intrigued by it. Like this, like, who what would that look like to remove all the labels?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. I think what comes up is a client story. I was working with a client who was really disconnected from all emotion, Just like wasn't even fully sure what happiness meant anymore. And for her, it was human design that was the tool that really helped her come back to herself. And it was just having the language for things that she always knew her entire life, but they felt like they went a little bit against the grain.

Megan Seamans:

She was a manifestor in human design and manifestors only make up 9% of the population. And she was like, Oh my gosh, everything makes sense. I have been trying to do it differently my whole life. People have told me that it's wrong, that I want to just go at it alone or that I want to just switch gears really fast and start something new. And that was creating so much excess pressure in her body.

Megan Seamans:

It was creating so much, excess heaviness for her to move forward in her action. And so, you know, we use that tool to come back to herself for her to really understand this is me. And then we could really start doing some of the work of, well, what does anger feel like in my body? Where does anger live in my body? And then we could move into, well, where does happiness live in my body?

Megan Seamans:

What does happiness feel like in my body? And just started to create these anchor points for her, for her to really fully feel again and to be able to choose her path in a, in a way that felt really easeful.

Relinde Moors:

That's beautiful. And so much in there that the human design that I want to know more about, but, and, but indeed, like you can't feel true happiness if you, you know, those depths, you know, you have to be able to feel the sadness and the grief and whatever is there, the anger in order to also feel those bigger things. Tell me a bit more about human design because I know you are Yeah. Brilliant with this. Tell me all about it.

Relinde Moors:

What

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Yeah. It's such a fun tool, to have in your toolkit. So human design is the science of differentiation. It's the study of how every single human is unique and different.

Megan Seamans:

There's actually 2,000,000,000 different configurations of a human design chart. So it is just layers and layers of contrast of, you being a multi dimensional human. We usually start with the 5 types in human design, but that's really just like the tip of the iceberg, the first layer. And you find your human design just by your birthday, birth time, and location. So it's super easy to find too, which there's just a little more ease in the whole process.

Megan Seamans:

Right?

Relinde Moors:

It is. Yes, it is very easy. I mean, there's all kinds of websites. Do you have a Human Design, on your website, right?

Megan Seamans:

I do. Yeah. Yeah. You can yeah. Do megansevent.com/hdchart and you can pull your chart there.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. I I'm a manifesting generator.

Megan Seamans:

Of course. 52. You can totally see that.

Relinde Moors:

How do you see that?

Megan Seamans:

Well, our manifesting generators are like, are fast movers and their projects always have this buzz to them. I feel like whenever I see you like launch something, I'm like, what are you doing? Like, I want to jump on board.

Relinde Moors:

Really? Amazing. Yeah. And then there's the moments which I give me permission and you understand, but the moments where I have to just go inwards. And I believe that's also my two liner.

Relinde Moors:

It's like

Megan Seamans:

Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

I just wanna hide and just be in my little bubble in my cave and I'm processing or I learn new things and I'm processing and then the moment comes and it's like, oh, here I am. Now I can share this. Yeah. And and I agree with you what you told about your client when I just because I don't you know, I know just enough about human descent, let's say. But when I just learned that, it gave me indeed permission.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. It helped me to see, okay, I don't have to be angry with myself that right now I'm not buzzing and out there all the time that I can take a moment, take a step back because I know it's going to come when the time is ready.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. I love that. I love hearing that from a manifesting generator because I think one of the biggest myths of a manifesting generator is that you have to be like going, going, going, going, going all the time and like there's no rest in your process, but you're so right. Like with your 2, it's so good to hear that you're leaning into that and you're giving yourselves those, that time away to be able to step back and see like, well, what do I want to deepen into next? And that only makes your energy so much more powerful when you step out into it.

Relinde Moors:

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. It's a really powerful tool. So, so what are you?

Relinde Moors:

Tell me about your human design.

Megan Seamans:

I'm a projector in human design and we can run through the other types too. So I'm a projector. Projectors, are like our guides. There are bird's eye view perspective. Projectors often like to, go really deep into a system, master a system, and then use that to help manage and optimize processes, other people's energy, different things like that.

Megan Seamans:

And our projectors typically aren't our go go goers. Projectors tend to like a lot of spaciousness and tend to work in like sprints. So projectors tend to get things done really, really fast and then they take a break, have some spaciousness, which was really permission giving for me because I feel like I spent a long time trying to keep up with everyone else. And that actually lands so true that I can just get things done in this like really big sprint really fast and then feel so complete. But I find that I used to try and like fill that space up because I felt like I should be doing more.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. Yeah. And then it's just enough. You've done it. Yeah.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

I think it's nice. Like, let's talk, since we've now talked a bit about the manifesting generator and the projectors.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

What what are the other types for people that don't know about human design just yet?

Megan Seamans:

Yes. So we have our generators. So our generators are our doers. They're our creative beings. Generators tend to like to go into mastery with something and just be so full in their flow and just see projects and creations all the way through using up their energy in really satisfying ways in a in a day.

Megan Seamans:

Our manifesting generators, I know we talked about them, but just to touch a little bit more, they tend to be our multi passionate ones. They tend to hold a lot of yeses at once, and do many different things in many different ways. Whether it's you have one umbrella of a project and you show up in many different ways, or you're just doing all of the things. Like I'm not surprised if I sit with a manifesting generator client and they're like, I'm starting a sewing business. And I also just started taking cooking classes.

Megan Seamans:

And also I'm still doing my coaching business. And by the way, I'm teaching yoga too at the same time. Do you find that multi passionate ness in yourself?

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. I mean, it was already my first studies with theater, and then dance. And then I was like, I'm gonna combine these 2. And people were like, no. It's either theater or dance.

Relinde Moors:

And you're like, no. I'm I'm like, I'm going to do both and it's gonna integrate. So for me, I had to in the journey in human design, because at one point, somebody was always telling me a friend and she said, yeah, but you're multi passionate, do all these things. And I was like, but I get tired also. So for me, it started to see that it's yes, it's all these things, but it's very much about integration.

Relinde Moors:

Like it's the next layer. I don't like to teach the same masterclass over and over again, but if I learn one thing that changes it and there's a new layer into it, I can teach it with the same bus again. So for me it's I had to nuance it and it was really helpful actually when I figured that out. It doesn't have to be completely different things but it does have to be always like something new or some layer with it, or I definitely, you know, pull from all these different modalities and, and throw them together. I'm like, here's the links and here's the shortcut and here's how we can do this.

Relinde Moors:

Let me create another course in another curriculum. I think in the past years I created around, if I look at my Kajabi, there's around 18 course. Yeah. But yeah.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. That sounds like so how your energy is meant to be directed, though. Like, I know I interviewed another manifesting generator business owner on, over on my podcast and, I was like, how do you navigate that? Because she had such a clear niche and she's always been in that one space and she's like, Oh, but I am just constantly launching like something new. And I, same, can't host the same master class twice.

Megan Seamans:

It has to be new. And so I just think that's so how your energy is supposed to move. And I feel like that's why I see that buzz. Like every time you put something out, you're honoring not only your like newness, but also, like you said, you're honoring that time away for the 2, and just so much of your design and flow. So it's just so cool to see, and you're just so magnetic.

Relinde Moors:

Thank you. Well, okay. It's good. This is a podcast. I'll start blushing.

Relinde Moors:

Thank you. No. I Human Design helped me in 2 ways and this is why I love talking to you. And first of all, what really what you all the things that you just reflected back to me, right, that is so helpful about Human Design because it gives that insight where indeed where you think or people tell you just stick to one thing. Only do one program.

Relinde Moors:

You cannot do the other thing. And it's like, but really it bursts out of me and people ask me for it. I have to do this other thing too. You know? And, and giving that permission, it also helped me as a coach.

Relinde Moors:

As I said, I would love to once do, like, a training to get a little bit more but I learned over time just from reading, having the book, so you know, looking things up and it helps me to differentiate myself and my coaching because I noticed for example, for my projectors in my course, I could sometimes be a little intense. Good, Lilo. What are you telling me to do?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. I know.

Relinde Moors:

I just have to have to, you know, offer it in a different way or be Yeah. Or really, you know, knowing what somebody's human design is. Now you know really so much more about it. So I'm so curious how you use that as a as a coach as well.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Well, one, it makes my heart sing that you recognize that you have that manifesting generator energy and, and not everyone has that. That's so powerful, in the world of people still thinking there's like cookie cutter strategies and like there's one way to success. It's so refreshing to hear that you're like actively like, oh no, there's not, there's not one way. There's not one pathway.

Megan Seamans:

There's many ways. And let's just find the right pathway for you. So I just love that. That's so refreshing. Okay.

Megan Seamans:

So how I integrate that? And then also we have 2 other types, so I don't want to leave those types out.

Relinde Moors:

Oh, yeah. Nobody has to do this quick.

Megan Seamans:

So I'll do those quickly. So we have our manifestors. So our manifestors are, they are, are here for big impact. They are here to bring newness to the world. They are bold.

Megan Seamans:

They usually have they tend to have quite intense energy. They have what's called a a repelling aura, which I don't love the language, but it actually makes so much sense to all of my manifestor clients. And what that is, is manifestors are kind of designed to move independently. They're designed to just like, go, just move. Our manifestors are the ones that like, we're all sitting at a dinner table and all of a sudden someone's gotten up and left and everyone is like, where did they just go?

Megan Seamans:

What are they doing? That's, that's the manifestor energy. They are just like our lone wolves. They're here to just make things happen and bring newness to life. And then our final type is our reflectors.

Megan Seamans:

Reflectors make up only 1% of the population. So they're quite rare. I've had the honor of sitting with so many reflectors though, and it's been so cool to learn about them through, through them and through their lens. Our reflectors are quite open and sensitive beings, but not sensitive in remove any labels or anything you know about the word sensitive. It's sensitive in this beautiful and powerful and potent way where they're just constantly taking in the energy of a space and then amplifying it out.

Megan Seamans:

They show us the health of the community. They show us what's on or what's off, what's working and what's not working in really effortless and easeful ways. And reflectors might feel that they tend to have like a little bit of a slower pace as they're just amplifying and finding their clarity in their way. Yeah. So those are all the types.

Megan Seamans:

And then really how I implement that in my coaching is I learn through each person I sit with and I let them write the words, write the language, redefine. Like one of the first things I say at the start of a human design session is full permission to like stop me, say that doesn't land. And then we'll just like rewrite it together because that's really what it is. It's coming back to you. It's creating language that's useful for you.

Megan Seamans:

And so it's just that full permission to say, wait, that's not landing quite, quite right. And then us diving into, is it not landing right because of some conditioning or an old story that's in place Or is it not landing right because it's just not quite the right words that settle into your system and then finding the pathway together from there? Beautiful.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. I love that. It feels I also feel that from your energy. You're so sensitive. You wouldn't be like you would really allow I feel like even talking to you, I feel like so much space.

Relinde Moors:

I think you can give a lot of space to somebody to, like, figure out their path with very clear guidance. Is that a projector thing?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Well, spaciousness is a huge projector theme and a big projector lesson. So often projectors can like see things for other people before they see them themselves, But our strategy is to wait for the invitation. And so the one of the projector shadows can be, Oh, I'm going to

Relinde Moors:

give you all this unsolicited advice.

Megan Seamans:

And then the person not being ready for it. Didn't want to hear any of that. They might get angry, whatever it is. And so I think that that's where the spaciousness comes in. It's like, well, I'm not going to rush your process.

Megan Seamans:

Even if I see it, even if I know it, I'm not gonna rush you ahead because you have to get there in your own time. And also I always say, like, what's the rush? We have our whole lives to be with ourselves and to get to know us, and I think it's just gonna be constantly unfolding. So what are we trying to rush to? Right?

Relinde Moors:

Oh my gosh. That is such a powerful belief. Like, I'm really taking the transmission of that one. I think I always have everything. Like, it should be further ahead, like, more and more and more.

Relinde Moors:

But it's so good to be like, what is the rush we have our whole lives? We're figuring these things out anyway.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. In

Relinde Moors:

our whole life. Beautiful. And you're also energy healer.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Energy coach, but energy coach. Okay.

Relinde Moors:

No, no, it's okay. I definitely want to use the right word. So energy coach, how do you see, what do you see in how those 2 human design and energy work? If you call it that way, how they can amplify a child or how do you use them?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Oh, I love this question. Okay. So for energy coaching for me is, really a somatic experience. So getting into the body, getting out of that head space that works so hard and has so much value and so much wisdom, but we have like a whole body from neck down that we tend to forget about.

Megan Seamans:

And in human design, the centers are a key element in your design, Knowing things like for the manifesting generator, your sacral center is activated. That's your gut, your gut feeling. So what does that mean? What does it feel like to be in your gut? What does it feel like to be in your body?

Megan Seamans:

And so we might move through it in that way where we're really looking at like what are the centers that are activated. Now let's really get to know that space in your body, see what it has to say, see how it feels. Or we might move through energy coaching when we're navigating one of those old stories that feels like, that doesn't feel like it's quite working any longer. And we might try and, move through it from a space in the body instead of spiraling in in the mind.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. Beautiful. Wow. Yeah, indeed. So such an untapped resource actually sensing, just sensing in the body.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Yeah. We forget. And it's, it's as someone who's very heady, I'm like, I, I very much have an active mind, and it's very powerful and it's very loud. The concept of getting into my body and listening to my body did not make sense at first.

Megan Seamans:

And then when I experienced it, I was like, Oh, okay. I understand. And it's a continued journey and I continue to deepen into it. And there is just so much wisdom living in our body. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. I think honestly it's why I got into dancing.

Megan Seamans:

Mhmm. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Because yeah. It was so in my head but then when I got first theater which was already super helpful because you could better be in your body, but that dancing as well and I went into contemporary dance and somatic movement styles and I now so I really need to balance it out because now of course I sit more behind my computer, like I work online. But I really every day I do something because and then if when I don't do it I'm like oh my god my head is spiraling I'm just It's so often the answer, isn't it? To just get into the body. Yeah.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Beautiful. That's such a tangible way to put it too, of like, if you're like, I don't know what it means to like, get into my body. You can literally just move your body and feel the difference. And that's so true because I also work from home and it's so easy to get into the rhythm of like, okay, I'm in my corner.

Megan Seamans:

I'm like moving through the list and we tend to get stuck up in our head. Even if you just notice your body when you're sitting for a long time, like your shoulders might start to tense up. You might start to notice that you're like hunching over a little bit. Like, what is your body actually actively doing when you're sitting all day? Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. Exactly. And then and then yeah. I love that you said, like, really listening into it, that you lose that when you're dressed in the head. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Well, it is totally possible because I also enjoy I kinda enjoy having more, seated time, which is not like popular thing to say. But if you've I've been dancing for so long. You're always in your pajama. It's super intense. You have no energy for energy anything else.

Relinde Moors:

If you're, like, professionally dancing it's basically the end of the evening you just have to go to bed at 7 and and I kind of enjoy not having that but the balance, yeah, is is so good and so important to keep in touch with our bodies. Yeah. Is, human design can sometimes to me feel a little heady. How do you see that? How do you make that how do you connect that to the body and the sensory feelings?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Such a good question once again. I love this conversation so much. Okay. So for me, how I do it is I integrate human design over several months because I do find that it can get really heady.

Megan Seamans:

And I do find that people are just, can be just looking for the next answer. Just looking for the next solution, just looking for the next quick fix. And if I just have this information, then I'll know. Then I'll, I'll have the key. I don't know the key to what, but of the key to it all.

Megan Seamans:

And so for me, it's moving with your human design over an integration period, not just spilling all the information. Okay, here it is. And it's actually moving with it and integrating it into your life and experimenting with it. How does this feel? How does this land?

Megan Seamans:

Does this actually feel true? And so it looks different for every client. For some clients we might sit, for a full hour and dive into their type and what it means and what it looks like, and then send them off to experiment with it a little bit and see what comes up. For some clients it looks a little more like a, like a, an undercurrent that they have the full written guide and they kind of just pop into it and they read it and then they might bring a piece up. It looks a little different for everyone, but it is this moving integration and not just here's all the information and then you just have it in your brain and you're like, well, that was cool.

Megan Seamans:

And it might pop up every now and then. But it's more of an active, active process of noticing what comes up. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

I love that literally to get the information and move with it, go with it through life and test it and sense it. And because I sometimes the downside of not doing that with human design, I have experienced and maybe you don't agree, is that sometimes it becomes also even limiting for people's views like I'm a projector I cannot do this I cannot do that. I'm like I don't think it's meant to do that. I think it's meant to how can I, like, do this? Or how does this work for me then?

Relinde Moors:

Right?

Megan Seamans:

Yes. That's something I'm so passionate about. And I love, I love that reframe question of like, let it be, how can I do this? Yeah. That's, that's always what I redirect people to if they're like, oh, I'm, I'm a reflector.

Megan Seamans:

Can I be a coach? Whatever it is. The answer is always going to be yes. It's always, always, always going to be yes. It's just, okay, now how do you want to get there?

Megan Seamans:

How do you want to move into it? So I love that reframe question and that's so true. It's, it's not meant to be limiting. It's not meant to put you in a box. And so if it feels limiting, just ask yourself, well, how do I wanna move?

Megan Seamans:

And what just feels really good? That's really at the heart of it all. What feels good? Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Is that for every type? It's actually just asking what feels good?

Megan Seamans:

I think so because it's, it is, it's coming back to the, your core being, your core essence. And I don't believe that our core essence, that our core being was built with hard. I think our core essence is easeful. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Core essence is easeful. Yeah. And and what we do why is it that we have a hard time getting to it?

Megan Seamans:

Gosh. That is the question, isn't it? I think, you know, there's so many factors, but I do think I think life can harden you up a little bit. You know, there's stories that are placed on you. There's, you know, you follow this path that you think you should, or you're supposed to, and you just kind of lose little pieces of yourself along the way.

Megan Seamans:

You just, I always say like, you drop some pieces of yourself on the path, and they just get a little buried and it's still there. It's always there. It's just bringing them back to life. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. No. I love how you said that. That life hardens us a little bit. I think that's very true.

Relinde Moors:

And if it is either I have to, I think I have to be in a certain way, but actually my whole design isn't meant to be that way. Or if it's like traumatic things or things that we have experienced. Yeah. Limiting reliefs that we've picked up. Energy that's still held in the body that can't flow.

Relinde Moors:

Doesn't matter what it is, but it kind of yeah. Yeah. It clutters or it you said it buries a little bit. That just innate essence of ease. Yeah.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. When I look at you, I don't know, I met you only once, but I I I'm like, it's like a fairy energy. Like so pretty and and light and it feels like everything flows very easily.

Megan Seamans:

Easily. Thank you. I received that.

Relinde Moors:

Really beautiful. Do you have a secret besides all the things? No. But I have a feeling that you're and maybe I'm wrong, but this is how I perceive you. Yeah, so I with a little bit of knowledge that I have about you, but did you stay true to what you are and who you are and is that something that you feel came innately to you?

Relinde Moors:

Is something that you learned or

Megan Seamans:

Oh, not at all. This is why I really, really received this. It's something I've just really actively been working on for, for years now. My go to pattern was a 100% people pleasing. I will do everything in my life according to what other people want, how other people want to show up.

Megan Seamans:

And I will try to control the perception that other people have of me because that's oftentimes the core of what people pleasers are doing. I'm going to try and control how you're perceiving me instead of this beautiful perception that you've just presented to me where I'm like, wow, I just very much received that. I just received that that's how you've perceived me. And that's so just jump on board? Even if it felt like it was exhausting or draining me out, I would just do it just to like, not stir up the pot, you know?

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. What what were the ways that you found that helped you to to, obviously, in my perception, shift that so much? I can really then see that you've done that kind of work. Like, what what were the things that, yeah, that helped

Megan Seamans:

you? Mhmm. Yeah. I mean, the very first thing I did was I started listening to my intuition, inner voice, whatever you want to call it. And I started what I now call, I might not have called it back then, but I started my experiment with yes, which was basically I'm going to start saying yes to me.

Megan Seamans:

I'm going to start saying yes to my life and I'm going to see what unfolds because I was so lost. I was so confused where to the point where I was like, I don't know what I want to do with my life. I had changed my major in university 7 times. And I, I was just like, I don't, I don't know what I wanna do. Why is this so much easier for everyone else?

Megan Seamans:

But I kept trying all these things that everyone else was doing and it just wasn't working for me. And so I was sitting alone in my house one night, and I heard this inner voice that I feel like I had never heard before. And it was probably because I almost never put myself in situations where I was totally fully alone and there was so much spaciousness. And I heard this inner voice of just like, well, what if you just started saying yes? Like what might happen?

Megan Seamans:

And I was like, we could give that a try. And I didn't even know that was what you would call like your intuition then, but I just really started listening to that and it brought me really magical places. So I think I'll keep doing it.

Relinde Moors:

Oh my gosh. I'm so glad I asked this. This is such a beautiful moment and what happened and yeah. Wow.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

I I wanna talk with you forever. I'm also gonna wow. We're all going to process all of this information. You gave so much transmission to all this which really really leads to me to like really being with yourself and listening and finding ease by connecting to your essence and not being all the things you're not that's what I just hear that you are really Yeah. For me, you're really mastering this.

Relinde Moors:

It's really beautiful. What a gift for your clients. Hey. And I have one out of, you know, a different question. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

I know that you and your husband just love and adore Scotland. Now I am I am Dutch. I love Scotland. It's beautiful, but it's cold, rainy, and you're, like, in Florida. You're, like, in California and all these beautiful places.

Relinde Moors:

Tell me about this love for Scotland. I wanna understand.

Megan Seamans:

I'm so excited. I'm gonna try and not make this an hour. I don't think I've ever had anyone ask me about Scotland on a podcast, so I'm very excited about this. Yes. Scotland is my heart home, as I call it.

Megan Seamans:

We also have a running inside joke that we are pretty sure that the weather is the best kept secret in the UK. Every time we've been there, it has been beautiful.

Relinde Moors:

I'm just so lucky. I've been there multiple times but I really did that experience. But okay, very meant to be.

Megan Seamans:

Maybe. Maybe that's it. Maybe that's part of my, my calling there. But we went there first in 2018 and, it was really my, my husband's trip. Like he had always wanted to go there.

Megan Seamans:

He wanted to trace back his ancestry and like go back to, like where his family originally came from. There was still, part of a castle that his ancestry was traced back to. So this was like his trip that he was very excited about. I was just kind of like, I'm sure it'll be fun. Like I had never really had it on my radar.

Megan Seamans:

And I have never had this experience before, but I stepped out and I just felt in my body that I was home. And it was a place I had never been. And it was just this powerful feeling. And I still have that feeling every time we go back. And there's just so many places in Scotland that I have just put my feet on the ground and had an immediate emotional reaction.

Megan Seamans:

I just feel so connected to that place and it is gorgeous. It is the, yeah, the landscape is just so like raw and like rugged and even in it's like misty rainy days, I just find that there's so much magic there. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

No, you're right absolutely is and it has a beautiful energy and it's like it does have this you know and the forests are like this fairy tale quality and it's just like woah this is it's really yeah. I was joking a little bit. It's very beautiful but I love that you shared this because that's so powerful also going to a place that is just like, wow, why does this feel like home?

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Yeah.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. Yeah.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They have a lot of, fairy energy there too. I feel like they have all these, like, fun, like, magics and myths there.

Megan Seamans:

So you brought up the fairies earlier. I feel like they have that.

Relinde Moors:

I've been taken one time to in Attenborough. There's a shop. It's called the weird shop.

Megan Seamans:

Oh, love.

Relinde Moors:

Yeah. And it is weird with w y r d.

Megan Seamans:

Okay. Okay.

Relinde Moors:

If you look up that word, weird, it means finding your path. Finding your weird, actually feel means really finding your calling, your path, your purpose. Yeah. So it's the weird shop and it has all kind of magical things like from I don't know. How do you call this?

Relinde Moors:

Oracle cards and, you know, all the tools and the just all the magic. The magic things. And the owner actually really does magic. So it is if you ever go. The merch shop.

Megan Seamans:

Oh. I've never been there and I a 100 I'm going back in July, so I'm a 100% gonna have to go there.

Relinde Moors:

Amazing. Oh, Megan, you're such a gift to this world. I am just hanging out with you here, has been feels so nice and so good. You have such a beautiful energy. Thank you so much for being here.

Relinde Moors:

For people, that wanna find you, so we already shared about the human design calculator. It's on your website. Tell me more, like, where can we find you? I know you have something for us to download. Tell me all about it.

Megan Seamans:

Yeah. This has been such a nourishing conversation. So you can find me pretty much everywhere at Megan Siemens. My website is megsiemens.com. I love Instagram.

Megan Seamans:

I love hanging out on an Instagram story. So you can come pop into the DMs. Let me know you're human design type and that you found me from the Choosing Ease podcast. And yeah, if I do have a free gift, it's the Human Design Roadmap and it just dives into what are all these elements that I'm looking at when I open up my Human Design chart. And it has some journal prompts in there and some affirmations for each human design type as well.

Relinde Moors:

Amazing. Right. With such beautiful gifts, Definitely gonna look at all that. And I love following you on Instagram and seeing all your stories and your amazing journeys and your adventures and everything that you do and that you share. Beautiful.

Relinde Moors:

Thank you so much. And I do hope we get to meet in Scotland in July. Thank you for joining us today on the Choosing Ease podcast. Remember to subscribe so you never miss an opportunity to connect. And I'd be so grateful if you could share your thoughts in a review.

Relinde Moors:

Join me next time as I continue to explore the powerful skills and strategies that will help you to let go of everything that keeps you from fully sharing your genius. You are destined for greatness. And through the Choosing Ease podcast, I'm here to help you own your unique wisdom and share it with the world. Until next time, keep choosing ease.