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Armbar Audio is a professional wrestling podcast for fans by fans!
Tim: You are now entering Arm Bar audio.
Hello and welcome to a new
episode of Armbar Audio.
I'm your host, Tim Farley, and next to
me is my trusted companion, Sean Kearns.
What's up everybody?
We are back and, uh, we're just
gonna catch up with you guys.
Um, uh, I don't think we've had
a podcast this calendar year.
I don't think so either.
So we're just gonna talk about whatever we
want to and, uh, hopefully you enjoy it.
This is the, uh, maybe there
will be points of contention
and you can talk about it.
Maybe,
John: uh, but this is like the rebirth
Tim: of audio.
Yes.
Yes.
We were born again.
We've been talking about it for a while.
Yeah.
It's just, uh, things have been going on.
Um, John moved, John got a promotion.
John new spot.
Hey, what up?
You?
Uh, and I have been and a new spot
focused on getting better your life.
Yeah,
John: yeah.
And getting better.
Yeah.
While doing it.
Tim: That's right.
They were better than here every
day in every way, except obviously
not in the weight loss department.
You've had other shit to do.
Don't worry.
Fuck it.
They don't like it.
It's more for somebody else.
You know what I'm sure.
Anyways, so, uh, this past year,
it's not like, John and I haven't
discussed wrestling with each other.
Uh, we're in a group chat with,
uh, our friend Drake, who used
to be on the Phenomenal podcast.
He's been on our podcast a couple of
times, and of course, you know, our,
you know, him, member, Sid, nerdy Mark.
And, uh, one of the, one of the main
things that we've been going, we have gone
back and forth on, was this right here.
Yeah.
Uh, I was, I was very concerned, uh, if
r o h would have its own identity, uh,
because leading up to the actual show
on honor club, you know, there was a
lot of r o h workers and champions in
a e w, uh, whether it be on dark shows
or main shows, and, you know, I kinda
got a little rubbed the wrong way.
But now that we're, uh, a pay-per-view
and about eight episodes in, I would,
I would say some of my concerns still
exist, but they've dissipated a bit
and I really enjoy Ring of Honor.
Yeah.
Um, one of the main reasons I
enjoy Ring of Honor television
is an obvious anchor for them.
Athena.
Yeah.
Now for sure, if you remember
John, whenever she became
the Ro o h women's champion.
I was kind of annoyed.
Yeah.
Um,
John: I think a lot of people were
because like it was like we hadn't
seen Mercedes Martinez for a long time.
And where your Honor comes around
and you're like, oh, great.
Finally Mercedes, uh, Mercedes,
Mercedes Martinez might be getting
the camera time that she deserves, and
then she lost the title, the first.
Defense under the Tony umbrella?
Tim: Well, yeah.
Like under, under the big time.
Yeah.
Tony K Umbrella.
Yeah, because she'd beat Serena D.
But that Yeah.
But like my thing was I wanted
Athena to be a big thing in a w.
In a W.
Yeah.
But now as Ring of Owners went on, and
as I've listened to some podcast with
Athena, I think it's great because,
um, For people who have watched Ring
of Honor in the past, the women's
division never really got off the ground.
In the early days, there would be a match.
Yeah, the Women of Honor, yeah.
Yeah.
There would be a match here and
there, but never really a division.
And then they had a division for a little
bit with Kelly Klein and Maui with Tawny.
I think they wrestled each other
at the Madison Square Garden Show.
But then things happened there where
it kind of fell apart and then Right.
Uh, before the pandemic or during the
pandemic, they had the Women of Honor,
uh, title tournament, and Roxanne won.
But then she went to wwe, uh, and then
Ring of Honor kind of went into this mode
where, you know, Sinclair didn't know
where it was going, and then eventually
Tony Con bought it, blah, blah, blah.
So to have a woman like Athena, who
in my opinion, is one of the best.
Women's wrestlers on the planet.
Oh yeah.
To be holding it down and actually
solidifying the title for the first
time in history is pretty fantastic.
Yeah.
Um, she's been putting on banger
after banger, Yuka Sakaki Emmy soccer.
Um, last week she did Heather Reckless.
Ashley d uh, Willow Nightingale.
How could I forget that?
And, um, she's just, her whole like
porcelain hussy thing where like, uh,
it's super card of honor where she
broke the, uh, porcelain doll at first.
Yeah, like I, her character
and uh, her promos, just
everything about the Athena is.
High gear
John: right now.
I like, um, and they sort of touched on
it on the most recent Ring of Honor tv.
Uh, Ian Rabani talked about Rick Bunny,
Rick, it's like, it's like a multiple
personality thing with her right now.
Yeah.
Like where she jumps into these
other, like these different
moods throughout the match where
she'll be, she does that thing.
She does that thing where she
like jumps like a court jester.
Yeah.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then she'll go right back to the
series and, uh, I, I just went to, I, I
just went to Dyna White a couple days ago.
Yeah, we're gonna get into that.
And Ring of Honor was, um, rank of
Honor kicked off the show or checked off
the live wrestling that we gotta see.
Unfortunately, we were late
getting in, so I did not see.
Avena was already having
her match when we gone in.
I didn't get to see who it was against.
I couldn't notice, but, uh, it was Drake.
Yeah, it was great and I'm, I'm
excited for people to see it.
Tim: Speaking of, uh, ring of my
favorite show this year so far has
been super, was super Card of honor.
Oh fuck.
If you haven't watched it, go
outta your way and find it.
However, pay for it.
Don't pay for it.
I don't care.
Just Tim, it's fantastic.
And it kicked off.
With Coman there, who is now Ali Elite.
Oh yeah.
And Triple Mega Champion.
Mega champion.
By now I've known for quite some
time the amazingness of VIO because
a few years ago, maybe even more
than that, impacted some shows in.
Mexico and he was on them.
Uh, it's really hard for me to
watch Lucha Libre to be honest.
Like I, um, it's a lot of cluster fuck
in my opinion, but I've seen some of
his tripa matches and they were good.
And he reminds, he reminds us of a
who of a young Ray, mysterious, Jr.
I was trying to get John to remember
what you said the other day, but,
uh, no, I said, uh, I gotta see
John: you live happy.
Tim: Uh, whatcha talking about?
John: But no, I said the
day I was like, imagine now.
Versus like, prime Raymond.
Tim: Yeah.
Yeah.
Like
John: Monday
Tim: nitro ray, mysterious.
It would've been insane.
It would've been
John: insane.
Like Monday Nitro slash
ruthless aggression era.
Ray Mysterio versus by Kingo Now.
Would be nuts.
Tim: I would've, I would've, uh,
I would pay big money to see that.
But Vigo is now, uh, I'm sure whoever
listens to this knew that he was going
to do a United States run with G C W
Warrior Wrestling, uh, and some other
promotions and didn't want his stuff
being filmed or broadcast or streamed.
And I don't know what happened, but
apparently, They said no more because
we got to see him on Super Card of
Honor against Commander and it was one
of the best matches of the evening.
Since that time, uh, not only has he
worked those indie shows, but we've
seen him on Dynamite against Omega.
Yeah, we've seen him on Ring of
Honor against Ringo Loco and uh, I
believe he had another match as well.
But, uh, the guy's taking the
United States by storm right now.
John: He's on, he's on Rampage tonight.
Against, um, against Charlie?
Yeah.
Tim: Yeah.
Oh, wait, that's tonight?
Yeah.
Because of basketball and shit.
Mm-hmm.
Ah, good, good.
Cause I watched GC W last night.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, watch
Rampage another time.
Uh, but that's on tonight.
Fantastic.
Treat for me.
Uh, but I
John: was, I was there, I was in the
Tim: arena.
Yeah.
This influx of, of luchadors, uh, not just
by Kingo, but you know, command there.
Gringo, Locos finally
getting some shine on him.
Uh, it was really nice to
see him in ro o h this week.
And I believe you got to see him live.
Yeah.
He
John: faced, um, God,
Damn Blake Christian.
What is wrong?
Yeah, he, he faced Blake Christian on Ring
Tim: of Honor and we get to see
Metal League on Ring of Honor.
I don't know, I don't know what the
John: format for Ring of Honor is.
I don't know if that's
gonna be on Thursday or next
Tim: Thursday.
Yeah, I don't know.
Sure.
But, um, you know, I like this.
I like, I like what Ring of Honor
is because we're seeing a w talent
there get booked differently.
A lot of times.
There are some exceptions
like Mark Sterling's group.
The varsity athletes and the varsity
athletes have been nothing but losers
on both shows, which upsets me because
Tony, because I, we like Josh Woods.
Yeah.
And Tony, I like Josh Woods.
Tony NES could win a win one
here and there, like they don't
have to lose every damn match.
And then, but then you
have the trust busted.
I just hate more stories that much.
Who, who were just, you know,
Jobber on a W and they're actually
like doing something with them.
Uh, on Ring of Honor, like I would say
Ring of Honor is based right now upon
the kingdom, uh, against top flight.
Yeah.
And of course, you know,
Dante Martin is gone.
So they have action Andre in
there, which is perfect for action.
Now.
Perfection.
Um, we have Athena holding it down.
Samoa Joe.
Uh, the Pure championship.
Yeah.
Which is being defended almost every week.
John: getting some shine
Tim: on there.
Ta Keta is getting the
wins on Ring of Honor.
I still don't know if he's
ever had a win on a television.
I think he has.
Well, it went, it was a
long time before he got one.
Yeah.
And we'll get to that.
And, uh, we
John: have, um, we got that this
thing going on with the dark order.
And Vincent's group.
Tim: Yeah.
It was nice to see the righteous.
The righteous finally come back.
John: Seems It seems like they're
targeting No, they were there.
Tim: Vincent wants Stu Grayson, Vincent
John: Grayson.
And, um, little bit of a spoiler.
When we were at Dyna White, uh,
Grayson and Uno had a tag match.
And Vincent, just, Vincent and
his guy Dutch, what's his name?
Dutch?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just, um, they were up on
Tim: the stage watching in chairs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Vincent,
John: uh, Vincent is cool.
Yeah, Vincent has a very
Tim: cool vibe.
What's, what's, what's funny about
Vincent is when he started this whole
righteous thing, everyone was like,
oh, he is just trying to be bra Wyatt.
Well look at Bra Wyatt now.
And look at Vincent.
John: I kind of wish Bre
Tim: was involved.
I kinda wish Bra would've
never became the fiend.
I kind of wish Bra wouldn't have
come up with all these things
and just stayed cult leader like,
John: yeah, I wish him and
Eric were still together.
Tim: It's all in some screwed up.
Yeah.
Like his, his return is was,
has just been abysmal I think.
John: I hate to say it, I think
Brody passing had a very big effect
Tim: on him.
Oh, definitely.
But like they were so slow with
his, his return and like, I dunno.
John: So I'll tell you what, I
liked Stroman a lot more when
the white family was a thing
Tim: for sure.
You know why?
Cause he didn't talk.
Yeah.
He didn't have a Twitter account.
Um, but anyway, um, so yeah.
Um, I used, I was afraid that Ring of
Honor would just be like a c A W light.
Yeah.
And then I would be like, well
then why is a w dark exist?
But it's, it's, it's finding
its own identity and, uh, the
fact that Shabbat came back and
is a pure champion, fuck Yeah.
It's fantastic.
Um, I
John: kind of view it
like, I kind of view it.
The same way that I viewed F
C W before it became an xt.
Hmm.
Like it is its own thing,
but it's still connected.
Right, right.
And I think if they can use Ring of
Honor the same way WW used N XT at first,
Tim: like Bobby, that'd be cool.
John: Yeah.
Yeah.
That'd
be
Tim: cool.
Yeah.
I agree and that I did say like a super
card felt like a black en gold show
felt like a black en gold takeover.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, um, another guy who's, who
belongs in ro o h right now, I don't
care what anyone says is Lee moi his
match, that match in nuts because
he was allowed to do his thing.
He wasn't just like a member
John: of the firm, the exact same
fucking thing I said, I said that
is the most limo already match.
That limo has had since coming to Aw.
Yeah.
Tim: Yeah.
Except like maybe his first one.
Yeah.
Which I think was, it was
against, somebody's like super
technical, I don't remember.
Mm-hmm.
John: But yeah, that match was amazing and
they, and the fact that they followed that
immediately with gringo and Vigo was nuts.
Right.
Tim: Right.
I just, and it also seems like another
thing that I like about it is with Loco
on there, with vio, with, uh, Blake
Christian, um, it seems like Tony Cohen
is treating independent contractors,
like real independent contractors.
Yeah.
You know, and giving
'
John: em health insurance
at the same time.
How about it?
Tim: Because we know and paying when
we know Christian and Loco are Gc W.
Staples, staples, staples major.
Um, so yeah, bring of honor.
If you're not washing it right
now, change, uh, change your
mind and give it a shot because.
It's, it's, it's quite good.
Even how Billy starts
John: on there sometimes.
Yeah.
And, uh, Tony Shevani kinda
let the cat out, cat out of
the bag that, um, she's signed.
Billy signed, yeah.
Tim: Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Great young talent.
Uh, a lot of people can't wait
for Nick Wayne to show up.
A lot of people who don't follow G C W
have only seen her on a w are like so
enthralled, amazed at how she is Yeah.
At her age.
And I'm like, Where you guys been, bro.
Like she's been killing the
Indies for like two years and
she just got back from Tokyo,
John: bro.
Wait, wait till fucking
Nick Lane shows up, man.
Tim: Oh man.
People aren't gonna know what hit him.
I just hope they, I hope Jordan,
John: Jordan Oliver.
I hope they give him the
young dumb broke music in.
Yeah,
Tim: that would be wild.
Like I don't care if he's
paired with Nick Wayne or not.
Yeah, I just, I want.
He deserves it.
John: Yeah, I want good things.
You want the east, west express together?
I
Tim: do, but even if they didn't, I
still want good things for all over.
But, um, anyways, so a w um, we're
gonna talk about r o h and a W because
that's what we mainly watch every week.
I can tell you a lot of things
about what's going on in Japan.
I think it's the easiest to watch.
I'm just gonna throw this
little bit out there.
Jake Lee left all Japan Pro wrestling and
he is now the gc That's True Champion.
Yeah.
Apparently last doing it last
weekend, he had an amazing
match against, uh, Nakajima.
I still haven't seen it yet.
Um,
John: my fucking dude, Sonata,
Tim: that's Baby Sonata, changed his look,
joined, uh, just four guys now they're
just five guys with flipping burgers and.
And, uh, he beat, he fi he beat Connor.
And I'm so happy because like whether
you, no matter what you think about
Sonata and if you think, yo, he's
still just a mid Carter and they
gave it to him, blah, blah, blah.
I don't give a shit.
If that's what you think, it's still a
good move because what is the main event?
Every New Japan show,
Sonata O' no Mito Osprey.
He gets in there, right?
Those four names.
Well, I was gonna say white, white throw.
Um, isn't in New Japan anymore.
They, they'll throw shingle
John: in sometimes.
Tim: Right?
Who is the king of pro
wrestling right now?
Fucking name.
Uh, but, but like even before the
title, we've always complained that
the main event scene was always
John: the main event scene was very
thin, thin, and also repetitive.
Yeah.
WWE ish in that way.
Tim: Yeah.
John: Yeah.
Like it's the same match every big show.
Tim: Exactly.
Yeah.
And, and, um, yeah, it's just
a not fresh air, don't champs.
And they're, they're, they're
so deserving, uh, they
John: pulled their heads outta the asses.
Something
Tim: like that.
Uh, I think we're gonna
get that match again.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, this year.
Um, but yeah, FDR pulled their heads
outta their asses and, uh, signed a deal.
Um, there's still things going
on with another guy that the a w
John: tag titles are back with.
Abel Belong?
Yes.
With the top
Tim: guess.
Hey, you know, I have hopes for
the guns or the ass boys dude, but
it's, it's not their time right now.
Nah, they're still young ass boys.
I mean, I listened to, I listened to,
uh, one of Jericho's podcasts from his
crew, and, um, Austin was basically
saying how he had to train Colton when
Colton got into a w because Colton
had a whole, yeah, whole nother thing
that he thought he wanted to do.
Then he decided to wrestle and,
you know, Tony saw the money and
the brothers, so Austin kind of
had to teach Colton on the fly.
So like there's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
That those, those boys have a lot of
pressure on them and for what it's worth,
especially with where they came from,
they knock those things out of the park.
It's just they need some
more time and as long as
John: ftr, the personality, the
personality and the character is there.
Yeah,
Tim: they might be.
Yeah.
John: The in ring work needs
to match with the character.
Tim: Agreed.
Or match with the ego.
Yes.
John: Yes.
Because the ego is good.
The ego is classic.
Good.
Heal
Tim: ego.
Speaking of ego, um, page, no, I
kinda, I kinda touched on it earlier.
Ego J White J had the wrestling world
wondering where he was gonna show up.
Was it gonna be at super of honor?
Was it gonna be at, uh, what
was the show revolution?
Uh, was he gonna be at revolution?
Was he gonna be at mania?
Was he gonna be at the raw after mania?
Yeah.
That's what a lot
John: of people thought.
And then a lot of people
thought the rumble too.
Tim: All these things.
And he held out until a random ass
John: dynamo.
It was the smartest thing ever.
He, he said nothing.
Right.
He was radio silent until
he showed up somewhere.
It
Tim: was so good.
It was so good.
Uh, Right now, juice Robinson and Jay
Whiter, rock Hard, the Bullet Club Gold
and David Finley, who has been chosen by
gto, uh, said whatever they're doing over
in a a w is not part of the Bullet Club.
And,
John: okay,
Tim: come on guy.
Come on Guy.
I mean, you got LP over there who they
just kicked out because he didn't LP.
Well, he didn't stand in line with Finley.
He didn't believe in Finley.
You better turn or both of gold.
I'm hoping.
That's what I'm hoping.
Honestly, uh, in my opinion,
if Jay White is claiming Bullet
Club, that's where Bullet Club is.
Uh, I don't really buy Finley
John: because you never officially
left and it was never officially
Tim: like kicked out or anything.
He got kicked out the same
way everybody else did.
Yeah, he got his ass
whooped by the next guy.
So, I mean, I guess he did, but,
but he's still like the embodiment
of, of that idea of that, yeah.
Of that attitude.
Mm-hmm.
I'm not buying David Finley as it either.
And I was really excited for Finley
at first, but they didn't, they're
not, they're, it seems like they
don't know how they want to go
about it, and maybe they're gonna
address it at Forbidden Door.
That would be interesting
for me, uh, to see.
But back to a w Our favorite guys,
the Blackpool Combat Club, have
turned shit heel and I love it.
It's amazing.
At first, everyone was wondering what
Danielson would think because Danielson
lost to MJF and took some time away.
And just Moxley, UDA and Claudia turned
into the three hyena from The Lion
John: King.
Yeah, for real.
And like Brian, Brian's
always had like this, she was
thinking about, so it was very
Tim: interesting.
Yes.
When he turned and he, he came out
to like, help Omega, but then he
hit him with the bus psycho knee.
Mm-hmm.
And now he's taken
screwdrivers to people's heads.
He's kinda like a manager.
Yeah.
I, I, um, but now with the recent
happenings, uh, I imagine he'll
be getting involved in the ring.
So Bull uh, Blackpool Combat Club.
Very angry.
That the elite are seen
as the top, top of a w.
They're, they're upset with a
lot of things about the elite.
They're going after
hangman page at dark order.
John: Lemme ask you something.
What does the e in the e w stand for?
Elite.
Tim: E E Elite suck it up.
But John Moxley said we put
the E in the leap, not you.
I dunno.
So they've been going after everybody.
They even busted up Don Callis,
who some of us thought was
kind of orchestrating all this.
Uh, Dawn Callis, uh, in my opinion, is
so good at being a slimy douche that.
When he talked to Will Osprey on Dynamite
a long time ago, I was like immediately
like he's gonna leave Kenny for Will.
And that didn't happen.
And then whenever this stuff happened
where he like kind of faked his stuff
with Paige to keep Paige away from Omega,
I'm like, oh, he's behind all this stuff.
But what happened this past week?
I don't really think so anymore.
And you saw it live.
Yeah.
So let let 'em know.
John: Well, there's been a lot of
talk, a lot of rumors about, uh, callus
getting Tequesta involved with Omega.
And finally, after much speculation
this week on Dynamite, we saw
Don Callus recruit Young Tek.
To, uh, assist the via week when
they were getting beat down by the
Tim: bcc.
Yeah.
Uh, TETA of course, uh, was the ace of
d D t still wrestles for them sometimes.
And Omega has a rich history with
d D T and Callis on screen has been
trying to court Keta to and to Keta
has been in the middle with him.
Like, kinda like, okay, I don't know.
Uh, so.
BCC were beating down the elite.
Countless came down with a chair,
thought that he was gonna do something,
and then he got a better idea.
But we just thought he was a chicken shit.
And he's, he's trying to convince
Tata at the ramp to go and help.
As soon as Tata hit that ring,
it was like a ball of fire.
He was hitting everybody.
And you could see on Danielson's
face, and I know maybe you couldn't
because you were there live.
Yeah.
Danielson looked.
Frustrated and, and put on
his heels like he Oh wow.
He did not expect to Keta to be there.
Yeah.
No, that didn't come across.
Now there's still people out there.
If I was
John: looking at the big
tv, maybe, but no, I didn't
Tim: notice.
There's still people out there
who think that Don Callus is still
orchestrating it and that him and Tata
are gonna go Blackpool Combat Club.
But I don't, I don't see that
happening and I don't like it.
I don't like it at all.
Unless they sign Coda at Bouchie.
Hey, um, let's see here.
Of course, we got the four
pillar stuff going on, speaking
of
John: Coda at Bouchie, but
for Mike Bailey Oh, was very
Tim: good.
Yes.
That, that was one of my matches of the
John: weekend.
Not, not coda's, not, not to
us, not Todas, first time in in
America, but a very good show.
Tim: Absolutely.
Um, speaking of Mike Bailey, His matches
against Jonathan Gresham with and G
C W and Impact have been fantastic.
BYO
John: match at Spring Break?
Yeah, all.
Oh, all of Spring Break
was fucking amazing.
Spring Break was fantastic.
Spring Break was my
favorite show of mania.
Weekend Super
Tim: card of honor for me
John: that was Mania can.
Holy fuck.
Okay.
Yeah.
Jeep Spring Break is my favorite show of
Tim: the collective.
Right.
Those two shows really
were like, yeah, the shit.
Um, so yeah.
So we got the main story going on
in a w is, uh, mjf, who's a pillar
of a w who's a champion, and,
uh, Tony Kahn decided to pull the
trigger on the four pillars match.
Um, right now, uh, we've been getting
a lot of in ringing promos Yeah.
Between the four of them.
And it's been.
Pretty damn good.
Uh, Darby Allen has been the most
consistent on the microphone and
in my opinion, deserves to be
on the microphone more often.
John: Yeah.
Sammy Guo.
I like it.
I like Darby's really coming into his own.
Tim: Finally.
Yeah.
Uh, well, I think he's gonna
get, he's given the opportunity.
Yeah, that's, that's the
difference now, jungle boy.
He's given, he's been given the
opportunity and sometimes he knocks
it outta the park and sometimes
he comes up a little short.
In my opinion.
There's something about him that's,
what do you think this week?
I, I mean, on promos.
Yeah, I know.
Um, this week, honestly, the promos
didn't really need to happen.
Yeah.
I think we're past the point of talking.
Uh, it, it's now at the
point where, Things have to
start going into action mode.
And that's exactly what they did
by the end of the show because
they had a tournament of pillar
tournament and whoever wins the
pillar tournament goes against mjf.
Yes.
So tournament with three people.
Well, somebody had feet, they had
to pick a name out of the hat to
get the buy, and it was Darby.
So Sammy verse Jungle boy,
and what the hell is going on?
What do you mean?
MJF gives a blank check to Sammy Guro.
Yeah.
I mean, what does, does MJF see
Sammy as the least threatening?
For sure.
Absolutely.
Because he's a heel, or
like, I don't, I don't know.
I, I don't like this and
I know it's not gonna ha.
It's not gonna, in my opinion,
it's not gonna lead to anything.
Yeah.
Cause we're gonna get a fatal four-way.
Yeah.
Like it, this whole torment
thing is a nice way to take up
time before doubling nothing
John: in my opinion.
Well, they got some time
to take ups the thing too.
Tim: So now here's the question.
Do you think it's time for
one of the other pillars to
Deone Maxwell, Jacob Friedman?
John: I don't know.
It's hard to say.
If it is, if it's anybody.
I feel like it kinda should be gra.
Why?
Well, cause he's like
legitimate day one match one of
Tim: a w.
See, I would go with Darby.
I understand, but I'm
John: still, I'm just saying
Tim: like, because you got kids
painting themselves up as Darby, you
got, I mean, yeah, you got like the
endorsements from different places.
Darby, you got Yeah.
The guy who can rocket on a mic.
Darby.
John: No, I understand all that.
I'm just wondering when, I'm kind
of starting to wonder when Sammy
Grava is going to get the reward for.
Being the, like the main
writer Die a w guy for
Tim: as long as he has been.
Okay.
I'm gonna say this.
All of them will have
the title at some point.
Yeah.
I do not think MJF
loses it to any of them.
Uh, I could see, like he said, a
whole year of a reign of terror.
Yeah.
Um, Now I know, I know that John doesn't
want to talk about this, but I would
be remiss if I didn't bring it up.
There's a lot of rumors about an a w
Saturday show and a RO and a brand split.
Yeah.
Do
John: you, do you understand my stance
that none of those rumor are coming
from anyone involved with a e W?
Tim: Still, there are a lot of talk.
There's a lot of talk, and I
wanted to say a lot of talk that I,
that's all it's, I'm saying this.
If you're gonna have a Saturday show,
take away dark and dark elevation.
It's too much wrestling.
One of the main reasons.
Well, there's a lot of main reasons,
but one of the main reasons I stopped
watching ww e was cuz I felt Overkilled.
Yeah.
Second, if you're gonna spread
up the brand, it should be to
maximize the exposure of talent.
Mm-hmm.
That is, you know, a lot of people
have complained over the years.
Little, the little three and a half to
four years that a's roster is bloated.
I, I've been saying
John: it's always been
the ridiculous fucking
Tim: opinion, but, but at the same
time, there is some merit there.
But now you got Ring of Honor, right?
Yeah.
You got Rampage, you
got, you got dynamite.
If you're gonna add a Saturday show,
and even if you don't, if you're
gonna split, split, split the brand.
It should be for talent exposure and not
because your employees can't get along.
Yeah, I'm not taking anyone's side
here on our show or in general.
I still
John: don't think any of it's real.
Like in general.
Tim: In general.
I don't.
You mean him coming back or
like everything that happened.
Everything that happened.
You think it's
John: okay?
Fabe?
I don't think it's okay.
Fabe.
I think it's all.
Blown out
Tim: of proportion.
Majorly.
Yeah.
It's majorly blown out of proportion.
What we saw that night was a man who
just got the title back on him, who knew
that he was gonna have to relinquish it
again because he knew he got injured.
Yeah.
And a man who was, he was reading
dirt sheets and getting information
about something that happened that he.
Threw away six years prior
or something like that.
So he was a pissed off old man.
Yeah.
John: And he knew people
were gonna shit on him.
Tim: Right.
And you know, I did see a tweet from DAX
that said everybody should just make up
and apologize and punk agreed with them.
So it, and
John: I said, everybody.
Who's everybody?
Tim: Well, I mean there, there has to be
some type of mutual thing because here,
John: do you think Kenny should apologize
Kenny who got attacked and by a human man?
Tim: Maybe in the sense of we shouldn't
have come to your locker room that
John: night.
We shouldn't have done
what you told us to do.
No.
That, that was dumb of us to do
Tim: that.
Sorry.
We're sorry we came down to your level.
Yeah, exactly.
John: Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Tim: Yeah.
Sam Punk needs to be humbled before
he gets another chance at wrestling.
Uh, in my opinion, and I've been a
punk fan my whole, the whole time
I've known Me too, his existence.
Me too.
But the man needs to show some
fucking humility, uh, and.
If that doesn't happen, you
wanna end up playing Miro?
I don't.
I don't give a rat's ass
if you make another show.
Just, just so you could have him.
So you could have him
versus Jericho and whatever.
No, I want you all to make up and I
want you all to wrestle each other.
I have four months leading up to
all in, in my head just for them.
And how they could sell out that
show, or at least get close to it.
I need people to start
John: putting respect
Tim: on Jericho's name.
It's not that I don't wanna see
Jericho wrestle anymore, it's that
I don't wanna see Jericho and punk.
I saw two Jericho and
punk programs and wwe.
They need.
To bury the hatchet.
John: What makes you think
it's gonna be Jericho and punk?
The first
Tim: fucking, because that's,
cuz that's what the rumors are.
John: None of that is real.
Tim: Because Jericho said
that he would be the liaison
between him and everybody else.
He would be willing to
go talk and, and la la
la
John: la Well that's, that's
Jericho being And Jericho.
Tim: Yeah.
A fucking professional.
Yeah.
The most professional,
professional, sorry, Brian Myers.
Jericho's the best brother,
brother in the history of breast.
Um, but yeah, you know it, if you're
gonna do the brand split, it should
be for talent, explode exposure, not
because children can't get along.
And yes, I mean to say that because if
this was, if they were professionals,
they would be able to get over it.
Um, I don't, I don't give a
fuck who that's about, you know?
And I don't care if you're
like, oh, the elite.
Oh see punk.
Fuck that.
They're all grown ass men.
Do what's best for business.
Yeah.
John: And with that, oh, is that it?
I think so.
Yeah.
That's it.
Didn't you wanna talk about, did you talk
about everything you wanna talk about?
Like cango and everything?
Yeah.
We talked about my kingo first.
I know we did.
No we didn't.
Yes, we did.
It wasn't like in the
Tim: middle.
Who knows?
Not me, it's Saturday afternoon.
We're both tired and fat.
So
John: I went and saw a fucking,
I went and saw Gabriel yesterday.
Yeah, uh, we got there at 10.
Gabriel hit the stage at 1115.
You didn't get out until two and
did not leave the stage until 1 45.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm, I'm, I'm done.
Tim: I'm done.
Done.
That's what I was saying.
You were like, yes, I'm, I'm done
John: fast.
Tim: That's how it goes,
baby bullshiting bullshit.
We ain't done this in a while.
You ain't, you're not used to that.
Right.
Anyway, uh, wherever you are in the
world, whether it's morning, noon,
or night, you have a great one.
And peace and love to all
of you, to all of you.
Bang.
John: Also keep the hat
Wrestler's Lab, wrestler's Lab.
We are, uh, sponsoring Wrestler's Lab.
Upcoming show in New Kensington,
uh, seven years of science.
It's the seventh anniversary
of Russell's lab.
Um, Vy.
Young's gonna be there.
I O'Neal's gonna be there.
Uh, Erica Lee is gonna be there.
Hong Kong.
There's gonna be a lot
of great indie talent.
Uh,
Tim: what's up Also,
shout out to Da Donny boy.
Uh, the, the man who did, uh, the
theme song for Inside the Indies.
He just dropped a new album
called The House Show.
It's on all streaming platforms.
I use Spotify, so that's where I hear it.
Uh, check it out.
It's really, really good hip hop.
Um, yeah, so we're back.
We're not gonna be weekly.
We might not even be biweekly,
but we're still alive.
We're still watching rest.
John: Yeah.
We wanna shoot we at least monthly.
Yeah, we wanna be
Tim: at least monthly.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
At least
John: monthly.
I'd like to shoot for biweekly.
But see what happens.
Who knows?
But yeah, uh, that's it for us.