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One minute he was just another hard-working guy with a sore neck who thought he was pushing himself too hard. The next: Tim Cooper was an ER patient who was told he better see a specialist. He’d soon learn his neck was fractured - and that he could become paralyzed.

Show Notes

“Beating incurable," produced by Gina DiPietro, follows a cancer patient through treatment. The inspiring 5-part podcast series covers his journey in just an hour, where we learn how Tim finds the strength to keep moving forward, and how others can as well. While he’s a glass-half-full philosopher by nature, Tim also makes clear that there are plenty of tough days. And that’s OK. They are also survivable.

Listen to Episode 1 of Beating Incurable.

In the second episode of Beating Incurable, we dive deeper into the pain he'd been experiencing and how a visit with a specialist led to a stunning cancer diagnosis. Highlights include: 
 
1:23 - How a fracture in Tim's neck led to a cancer diagnosis.
2:10 - Something he never saw coming. 
3:20 - Myeloma bone disease, a side effect of Tim's cancer, put him at risk of paralysis from the neck down. 
4:33 - Helping patients take on a life-changing diagnosis. 
7:05 - How doctors would treat Tim's multiple myeloma.
9:22 - Explaining how he came to be featured in this story.
10:09 - Tim's first revelation on how cancer has changed him. 
 
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Dr. Patricia Kropf 0:01
He's just a really special guy. You have to meet him. And just have a two minute conversation with him. You know, he's young. He's never asked me, 'Why him? Why did he get this incurable disease?' And he never complains. You know, he'll admit if he's in pain, and he will tell me the truth when asked, but he really takes everything in stride.

Gina DiPietro 0:28
This is the story of Tim Cooper, a 56-year-old Black man with multiple myeloma, a rare, incurable blood cancer. Tim, a bright light, a man of faith is documenting his experience to help others.

0:44
October 22nd. November 21st. Getting ready for another week.

0:48
And here's the thing about Tim, he brings a far more upbeat philosophical outlook to a situation that most of us could muster.

0:58
I'm no prophet. I'm no great individual in the sense that I'm an average guy. But I think I've been placed an extraordinary situation that I was meant to deal with. You know, why not me? And so hopefully, whatever I can share with you can help you to move through this process, and deal with it and take it one day at a time.

1:23
I'm Gina DiPietro, your host, here with Part Two of the Tim Cooper story on Novant Health Healthy Headlines. Before he'd meet his oncologist, the physician we heard from at the beginning of this episode, Tim went in search of answers about that worsening pain in his neck and back. A neurological examination, followed by imaging immediately concerned the experts at Novant Health Spine Specialists in Charlotte. It showed a broken bone in Tim's neck. Based on its location, and the way in which had fractured, the specialists knew it was a side effect of cancer. That news would be delivered by neurosurgeon Dr. John Berry-Candelario who specializes in oncology.

Dr. John Berry-Candelario 2:10
I typically start the conversation with something along the lines of, 'What I'm about to tell you is going to sound devastating. But what you should know is that there we will be here with you every step of the way.' Letting the patient know that it's hand-in-hand, that we're taking this plunge into this diagnosis together, can be quite powerful.

2:30
Do you remember how Tim reacted?

Dr. Berry-Candelario 2:32
He started crying if I recall. It was a devastating diagnosis to feel like he was taking on. Much, in part, due to the fact - as you probably know from his story - that he has family members with cancer. His mother has myeloma. And so he had spent so much of his life kind of developing and becoming the person that he was and he wasn't expecting to have that diagnosis at any point. And that's the 'sucky' thing about cancer, that it can touch any of us, in any way, at any time.

Cooper 3:07
Still learning about it, you know. Still processing it in my head, obviously. Like, I have cancer... So, that's kind of what I'm still going through now. That process. I'm still figuring it out. It's one day at a time.

3:20
Myeloma bone disease, a side effect of Tim's cancer, had thinned and weakened the lower part of his neck in an area called the cervical spine.

Dr. Berry-Candelario 3:30
You see that picture on the wall? That's a picture of the spine. And you have these little spongy things called disks.

3:37
Tim's cervical spine needed repaired, or doctors warned, he'd become paralyzed from the neck down. The first of two surgeries would happen the next day at Novant Health Presbyterian Medical Center in Charlotte. As Tim was in the operating room getting prepped for surgery, Dr. Berry-Candelario made a tense moment just a little lighter by finding something they had in common: A love of music. Jazz, in particular.

Dr. Berry-Candelario 4:13
He and I connected because of that. And we were talking about a particular song that was covered by Quincy Jones, but was originally sung by Herbie Hancock, or produced and written by Herbie Hancock, and so we actually played that particular song as Tim drifted off to sleep under anesthesia.

4:33
If you're curious, that song is called Tell Me a Bedtime Story. For Dr. Berry-Candelario, connecting with patients is about the human experience. As someone who had seizures growing up, he knows what it's like to be the one seeking answers.

Dr. Berry-Candelario 4:49
It helps you to really understand the anxiety, the frustration, the denial, and hopefully the acceptance that it can come from working with a provider to find out the diagnosis, but then finding the tools and strategies for how to overcome it. And my role, Dr. Kropf, and others who are helping to support Tim, I think understand that. That we have to be part of that human experience in order for us to really help that person to get to where they want to be. And sometimes it turns out, especially with cancer, that doesn't always mean beating the diagnosis. It just means helping that patient find the dignity to take on that diagnosis.

5:35
Once Tim was under anesthesia, Dr. Berry-Candelario used screws attached with rods to strengthen the back of the neck. And later, in a second surgery, used a plating system to stabilize the front of Tim's neck. He started documenting his progress soon after.

5:54
Today is September 4th.

5:56
And as you listen to his video diaries, you'll notice the surgery temporarily affected the sound of his voice. His sense of humor, however, that was fully intact.

6:07
I want to also show you what I'm also wearing here to help rejuvenate the screws to my bones in my neck. It's called a bone stimulator. I'm the bionic man! We have the technology! So, if you know that show, and I'm showing my age, you'll know what I'm talking about.

6:26
A tissue sample taken at surgery was examined by a pathologist and confirmed what type of cancer Tim was dealing with: Multiple myeloma. Now doctors could begin treating the cancer itself. Tim would meet his oncologist Dr. Patricia Kropf of Novant Health Cancer Institute in Charlotte.

Dr. Patricia Kropf 6:49
He came in in all kinds of metal devices, a halo, different braces, and he was smiling. He was smiling. And he said, 'You know, I have myeloma. What are we going to do?' And he's been like that with each visit.

7:05
An estimated 34,000 Americans are diagnosed with myeloma each year. That accounts for less than 2% of new cancer cases in the United States. It forms in a type of white blood cell called a plasma cell.

Dr. Kropf 7:20
And it's a fairly aggressive type of blood disorder. It tends to involve the bones, the kidneys, it can develop into an anemia... So, at present, myeloma remains incurable. It's very treatable, but it remains incurable. And patients tend to be on some type of therapy for most of their lives.

7:42
She recommended a combination of chemotherapy and radiation for Tim...

Cooper 7:49
I'm in the hospital now, waiting for my Velcade shot, getting my treatment every Monday and Thursday... Today is September 23rd. They did say you may have a little bit of metallic taste in your mouth and I do sense that...It's 9am. I've been running a slight temperature for the last couple of days... I'm feeling much better today. No temperature....

8:12
.. in the lead up to cellular therapy, a more targeted approach that uses a person's own cells to fight cancer.

8:19
I just finished my morning walk and it felt good. It had me thinking about my purpose and what I'm going through. They always say that God wouldn't give you more than you can carry. But it really is true if you apply that and use it as fuel towards your next phase. Where will God lead you once you get through this valley?

8:41
It takes resilience to walk down the road that Tim has found himself on. And he has a quiet strength.

Dr. Berry-Candelario 8:48
I think Tim shows, and has continued to show, an indomitable spirit. He's an impressive individual. I'm proud to call him my patient. And I tell him every time I see him that I'm truly privileged to be a part of his care.

Dr. Kropf 9:02
I love Tim. And the entire office loves Tim. He just has such a beautiful outlook on life. He takes everything in stride. He's really just a pleasure to take care of. All of the nurses, my colleagues, we all feel the same...

9:22
It's worth pausing here to help explain how he came to be featured in this story.
Hi young lady!
Hi, Tim! How are you?
I'm good, I'm good. Just sitting here, having a cup of coffee and listening to some jazz music.

DiPietro 9:36
As a senior PR specialist, I'm part of a storytelling team that captures the care and culture at Novant Health. And we're lucky to meet a lot of patients whose lives our providers have touched. After my colleague, Josh Jarman, another senior team member, met Tim. He came back to us and said, 'His story has the power to help people. You have to meet this guy.' And as you've probably guessed, it's how we find ourselves here today.

Cooper 10:05
I know Josh, he told me, 'I'm kind of handing you off to Gina now."

DiPietro 10:09
And now in the year since I've known Tim, here's what I've come to understand: He has a calming presence. It makes him easy to be around, even after a disappointing setback.

Cooper 10:20
You want to keep this persona image that everything is fine for most days, you know, for a lot of days it is. But some days it's not. And I thought it was important to share those times, too, because that's a part of the journey, right? There are some days, I'm like, 'What the hell?' And then you can say, 'Look, I can't live in that fear.'

10:40
A big event, like a cancer diagnosis seems to unleash something in people. And as Tim and I continue to chat that day, his self reflection grew deeper.

10:51
I've always been a person that has had abilities to do things. But I've never pushed myself hard enough to really achieve what I wanted, Gina, and that's one of the regrets that I have in life. And this has taught me, again, to challenge myself to do more. So, seeing this happen to me now has really given me a perspective on how I've been BS'ing in some ways. You know, I've always been able to succeed and do well and make good money. But I've never pushed myself to the ability that I really should have. Whether it's my military career, from when I was a student til' now. So, there's so much more that I'm capable of. And I think that getting through this process, when I do see the light at the end of the tunnel and get there, I think it's gonna really jumpstart me into something new.

DiPietro 11:50
Tim's self reflection got me thinking. He's a man of faith. He trusts in divine intervention. He's patient. He's funny, he loves to laugh. But above all, I think it's his selflessness that sets him apart.

12:06
My parents are both 80. They're declining as far as their ability to do certain things.So, I'm over there just about every weekend now to help out around the house. And I also want to give my sister a break, because she's there during the week. She lives in Winston-Salem.

12:20
While he's founded this process to be somewhat cathartic, Tim isn't doing this for Tim. But for you, the listener...

12:29
I'm just thankful to do this, as well. And I'm glad you've been entrusted with telling my story. Whoever it helps... If it helps one person, you know, that's great. I'm just still kind of amazed by that. So, thank you, again.

12:49
Still ahead... Tim climbs perhaps his toughness hill yet: A stem cell transplant and the next part of his treatment plan. Dr. Kropf said it's the "standard of care for younger people with multiple myeloma."

Cooper 13:07
Everything's coming back positive as far as my stem cell counts and all of my blood work and the way my system has been adjusting to the chemo that I've done previously to get ready for this process. So, I'm really anxious to get it done and move past it and have these 14 to 16 days turn out. And hopefully I'll be in remission.

13:33
I'm Gina DiPietro, your host, and I'm humbled to tell Tim's story. If you enjoyed this podcast, leave us a five-star review or share it with friends. Find us on Apple, Google Spotify, or just about anywhere you listen to podcasts.

And leave Tim a note of encouragement. You'll find his story under Editors Picks on www.healthyheadlines.org. Or use the search feature to type in his name. People can join the discussion at the end of that article and Tim's responded to many of the comments already. Thanks for listening.