Two Dancing Widows

In this episode, Toni and Hettie explore the delicate and often complicated journey of reconnecting after loss. From rebuilding social connections to rediscovering joy in everyday moments, they share honest reflections on what it means to open yourself back up even when it feels uncomfortable or uncertain.
The conversation highlights how connection isn’t a single moment, but a series of small step whether that’s reaching out to a friend, being present with family, or simply allowing yourself to feel again. With warmth and authenticity, Toni and Hettie remind listeners that healing doesn’t mean moving on it means moving forward, at your own pace.
This episode offers encouragement, relatability, and a gentle push for anyone navigating life after loss and wondering how to reconnect with the world around them.

What is Two Dancing Widows?

Finding life after loss, Two Dancing Widows dives into the stories of resilience, hope, and transformation. Hosts Toni and Hettie welcome new guests each week, from widowers and life coaches to those battling severe illness, who share their journeys through struggle and their paths back to joy. This podcast is for anyone navigating grief or simply looking for inspiration to live and love deeply again. Tune in for heartfelt conversations that remind us all that healing, while challenging, is a dance worth stepping into.

coming up on this episode of Two Dancing Widows.

And maybe it's just like my recent experience is running into guys or meeting guys who

really have a fixation on the past. And I kind of have some ideas about why that is.

I don't know if I can say them, I think, like maybe they, they, they,

okay, let me think about how to say this for a second. Maybe they are not,

they don't have the prowess that they once had. They're not able to do the things

with girls or kind of hitting run like they used to. So they're kind of enamored

with those old past times. And so they still have this idea of wanting to connect

to some old girl that is now an old lady. So what is the point?

Oh, I think the point is that you truly do grow, hopefully you grow.

And you're interesting in a different way now. Of course we're not the 16 year olds

or the 35 year olds. I think that guy really is interested in you because you

grow interesting in your old age and your dodeches, they would say.

I think when you reconnect, because that is one topic I was going to talk to you about

is about reconnecting with old flames. I know people personally that actually have

reconnected and married that guy they had a crush on in high school.

And they both grew up, went away to school, met other people, had families,

raised children, and then a senior somehow reconnected.

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explore life after loss and the strength we find in each other's stories.

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Now, here's Tony to begin this week's episode.

Welcome, welcome, welcome to two dancing widows, where we believe that life

doesn't end with loss. It just changes rhythm.

And today we're going to talk about reconnecting. Heady, when I say reconnecting,

with old friends, old coworkers, family, what does that mean to you?

Well, I'm glad you clarified that, that it was with old friends, old coworkers,

and things such as that, because when you said reconnecting, I thought you

meant getting on the computer and connecting up or getting on front of the TV

and I didn't know really what you meant to me.

But now that you have clarified what reconnecting is, I'm not sure why.

Can you tell me why? Why would you do that?

Why you'd want to reconnect with someone?

Have there ever been times where you just, in your car, in the house,

just kind of sitting for a minute and someone comes across your mind

that you haven't talked to in a long time?

No, never even a family member.

You think about aunt, so and so, or cousin, so and so, and wonder what they're doing?

Certainly people do cross my mind, but typically I don't want to talk to them

necessarily because if they are people that I wanted to be connected to,

I would be connected to them. I mean, there are people that I would say,

maybe if I see a picture, I'd look at and go, oh, wow.

I remember this person, I haven't talked to them in a long time,

but I don't know that I would reach out to connect necessarily.

I don't know, tell me more.

I think, well, you know, I'm a Facebook fanatic, you know,

it's a mental disease.

It probably isn't, but I enjoy it and I'm able to keep up with former students

and colleagues and neighbors and people, even relatives from out of state.

And I'm able to participate in a way in their lives.

And I enjoy that, but sometimes I'll see a post from someone and I'll think,

oh, this is Michelle. You know, I forgot about her.

I remember her from freshman year in college, or I'll have those kind of connections,

if you will. And sometimes I do reach out and say, hi,

I actually had a student who's probably now in his late 30s, early 40s,

rather my favorite students, smart as a whip.

And he reached out to me on FaceTime and said, hi, Mr. Rell,

I don't know if you remember me and he told me his name and everything.

And I was, it made my day.

Well, well, I guess, see, there are a couple of things there.

So first you said, you saw a post and it reminded you that you knew this person that it post it.

So that's not an actual reach out. That is just a post.

And maybe if you're just reading it, then you're not really reaching out either.

On the other hand, if someone, I guess this is called DMG,

they don't even know what DM means. I'll do the fact that it's direct message.

Oh, direct met. Oh,

I told you that one of your grandkids, absolutely not.

I told them, oh, right.

Okay. Okay. I'll bite.

But I don't know why I would want to resurrect something that is lost or gone

because there are so many new people to meet.

If I wanted to have an adventure, it would probably be around meeting someone new.

That's, that's, but that's acceptable too, but it can't be both.

I guess it could be both, but why isn't that like too much?

Absolutely. Now you know how I feel about that.

One could never have too many friends or people that they associate with or talk to.

It's kind of nice to catch up sometimes with people you haven't talked to in years.

I have certain events that I attend every year.

I look forward to those events because I catch up with the same people year after year.

And we find each other in the crowd and we talk and we connect.

And that's always a lot of fun.

Sometimes we might get together after that for lunch or dinner or something.

But usually for, but some of the people is just that one event every holiday season that we actually reconnect.

So I don't necessarily attend those type of things anymore.

There was a time in my life when I did and they revolved around work and workplaces and things such as that.

But I don't just go to things.

I mean, I go to family things and we do our reunion.

You know, I make up to a reunion here or there about something.

Well, to be honest, I don't even actually attend those.

When they do our classroom unions, I have yet to go.

I don't see the purpose of watching seeing old people who have lost their teeth in their hair and gotten fat or whatever.

I mean, I can meet new people that look like that.

And maybe it has to do with grief thing with grieving because I think some people do grieve their past.

Not that you do necessarily because you got a lot going on now.

But I think there are those people out there who always think that the old days were the good days.

And when I hear that, I'm always stretched to imagine how the old days were better than the new days.

So as we talk about things such as grief, I can imagine that maybe when you lose someone that you really love,

you want to think of the past as a golden time and you want to maybe resurrect that in a way.

But because they're gone and you can't bring them back, there's no new, there's no real reconnection or resolution to it other than thinking about old times.

And I'm not sure that old times are better than new times.

I hear people talk about that all the time.

All the time, all the good old days, the good old days, the good old days.

Well, you know, sort of like they say in that song, the good old days, maybe today for somebody.

And the fact that I'm always curious when people talk about the good old days, which days were they?

Were they the days when women were taking out bedpans?

Or when you had to have bedside pants by you as you got older because you could make it to the bathroom?

I was the day when you when you had to defrost the refrigerator that's still, you know, made so much ice on it that you couldn't get fluted in it anymore.

So you'd have to defrost that.

But were they the days when the people came down the alleyways with fresh fish?

That was good. I mean, I like that.

And you could get the fish. You could fry it.

There was a day when men came down or they really, really were men.

They weren't women that would come down with popsicle, you know, trucks and ice cream trucks and all this sort of things.

Those were good old days too.

But people of the past belong in the good old days.

Not necessarily in today's day.

Well, I think you know I'm that half full girl, but reconnection to me is not going backwards.

It's not going back to the past.

It's not thinking about those people in the past.

It's thinking about those people bringing those people into your now.

So reconnection to me would be reconnecting again in the present time.

Not not with the past, but in the present. What are you doing now?

What is your life look like now?

This is what mine looks like. These are the things that I'm doing.

And because I enjoy those people and their personalities and we have fun together, then I would, I would love to see if that still is the case now in the now that I could gel with them again or laugh with them again and make new memories.

Not not bring the old.

I think it's comfortable in the sense that you initially do have a base to start the conversation.

You can start talking about remember we're on 63rd Street or we used to go to the beach or the point or whatever, but that would be a short conversation.

And then we want to keep with now what's going on now.

I think that that doesn't address the fact that people change people grow or they get stunted in some kind of way, you know, it's sort of like the 1957 prom queen.

Yes, she's still wearing the same hairstyle. She's still wearing the same type of clothing and maybe in some instances, if she can stay small, she's still wearing the same thing guys the same way.

Especially guys in some ways, I really think that maybe it's just like my recent experience is running into guys are meeting guys who really have a fixation on the past and I kind of have some ideas about why that is.

I don't know if I can say them, well, I think I'm like maybe they they they okay, let me think about how to say this for a second.

Maybe they are not they don't have the prowess that they once had they're not able to do the things with girls or kind of hitting run like they used to.

So they're kind of enamored with those old past times and so they still have this idea of wanting to connect to some old girl that is now an old lady.

So what is the point?

Oh, I think the point is that you truly do grow, hopefully you grow and you're interesting in a different way now.

Of course, we're not the 16 year olds or the 35 year old thing that guy really is interested in you because you grow interesting in your old age and your dodech is they would say, I think when you reconnect, because that is one topic I was going to talk to you about is about reconnecting with old flames.

I know people personally that actually have reconnected and married that guy they had a crush on it in high school and they both grew up went away to school met other people had families, raised children and then a seniors somehow reconnected a couple I know they sent a wedding invitation out and I had a picture of him.

And her on the cover of the invitation it from kindergarten because that's where they met now these are seniors and they they think they they reconnected on Facebook and I think she sent him a message about and I could be a little bit off but give me some grace here but something about you broke my crayon my red crayon and kindergarten and so a couple of years ago, I think I was going to be a little bit off.

A couple of days later she got a package and it was a box of crayons.

Oh, now that is cute and that moment on they connected and they started talking and they married.

So, so here's a problem here's one problem that I would encounter trying to meet someone on Facebook like that is I couldn't I couldn't figure out why I didn't see any one of my class and why they weren't you know because I guess some kind of way they kind of pop up.

Yes and then I remember that I put my age back 10 years.

These classmates I truly I mean truly I didn't see anybody that I recognize so I didn't think that that was going to work so I don't know what that worked for me because I have to go in and change everything.

I see so but I don't want to do that because I am not that interested in them. I think if I would be interested in them I would go to a reunion which like I said I have yet to attend any type of class reunion.

I don't know for high school undergrad, graduate school, law school.

I don't even get together when I get together have a beer.

I haven't been thinking lately though about doing the travel bit with them because they do an alumni travel.

Yes and and some of it is you know the more pulling to classes certain class of people classes that people were in like the law school does one institute for labor.

And human resources does one and both of my colleges I don't know the design school does one school design does one maybe agriculture does it which we'll see aligned with a net respect but I don't know I can't remember people I met last week.

I don't know if I would remember anybody it would be a lot of fun so do you have friends that you still are in contact with from high school most of them are dead.

I mean not to be more than not to be more than that was that I kind of kept up with which was probably all four people three of whom I have passed on there is one that I get attacks from every morning practically choose to respond sometimes I don't I do adore her and she's sweet but you know it's like we don't we not the same people.

We sometimes will text about certain things but we're not the same people and we have chosen very different paths so maybe maybe that's it and then with the old boy friends I don't know that I liked any what there's only there maybe two guys that I really liked that I might would kind of be interested in know what happened to them but then again.

I don't know if they didn't have their teeth I don't know well I have a couple of guys from high school that I want is a Facebook friend and we a comment on each other's post actually he listens to our podcast also.

Yeah he is a fabulous poet was he married well he is also a little or oh and so he is someone I may like he he he is handsome bright very nice guy and sure no no no he's not any of those things he was he was a star football player.

He's got bad knees now well I don't know right now anything about his body parts.

He's local but he's very interested in meeting your old classmate we could act as someone that he was I went to the prom with him I seen your year and you got pictures.

Oh yeah I have lots of pictures. Yeah I even have a lot of pictures of him in a minute and just let's do a serious just silly things so maybe this is not such a bad idea reconnecting with Tony's old classmates.

Oh I could go for that I pretty much liked everyone and and so you know that's always been a problem.

Yeah and so when I see like anybody that I know or if I hear about them and I run into them I'm always so glad to see them and and to connect with them I have girlfriends that I've been friends with since high school and we talk almost every day and and it's just I don't know well that's that sounds very sweet but I probably when I see people that I kind of recognize I tend to go the other way.

And that's for any particular reason but I don't know I really don't know why I behave that way and you know I don't believe in personally seeing psychiatrists I do believe in sending others to see them but for myself I think you know you have to fix yourself I don't think you go outside of yourself to get fixed so maybe I have to focus on why I would talk or go the other way if I see someone I barely recognize I don't even

really connect with with college friends and it's funny because I do have a couple of friends from college and they tell me about what's going on with some old classmates I even read about some of my old classmates and I don't think to reach out to them I just never would.

It's interesting when I've gone to college reunions and I didn't when I was in the midst of raising my family and those those years I just didn't have the energy or the time to do it but in my golden years I can't wait for the next reunion to come up and my there were 21 of ladies on my sorority line when I came into the sorority and out of that we've 17 of them.

We have a couple of us are still on our text together we check in we say happy birthday we have Zoom calls together at least four times a year and we plan to meet up and that's always a lot of fun and when we go to reunions we laugh because although we are in reality, he had in various states of size and disability or abilities or whatever we all feel like we're in the same place.

We're like we're 19 again and we laugh and have pajama parties and I don't see any girls. So we just have a really good you're not again. No, we but we are for that weekend for that reunion weekend we are 19 in the dormitory having a good time and it just flows very naturally and we catch up with each other you know what our families are doing and all of that and I really look forward to it.

You know that's funny it sounds nice and it makes me think I'm not in touch with him my line sisters and I wouldn't even know how to reach him well I let me let me rephrase that I adore them I adore the idea of them I don't have anyone that I really didn't like during that time and they might have some way of reaching each other I guess because I have to admit I think I might have said to you before when I lost Jimmy and then that reminds me so I'm not going to be a little bit more excited.

Somebody always says you did you ever find him again I said and they asked me why do I use the phrase lost him I don't know why you said but that's another podcast but every thing I got I got an email a cart from every single one of them people that I had totally forgotten and you know even when I lost Brandy I heard from some of them but and I'm trying to remember I think I kind of tucked the cart away somewhere and said I'll really reach out one day which okay six years later.

For Jimmy I have not reached out to any of them so so some kind of way you're probably right they probably maybe I'm considered like a lost Jim so this is a challenge for you.

Please don't I'm not going to call up.

Okay we can do better than calls now I'm definitely not going to go see up we can email we can text.

That's that or you can send a card or letter there are all kinds of ways to just touch and see now tell you how my line sisters and I that reconnected if you will we were coming up on our 50th anniversary of the members of the sorority and so we decided it was during COVID we could not get together physically because of the restrictions.

So one of my best friends and line sisters their names Beverly she lives in California and Beverly and I were like we have to be together for this occasion so she said do you think we can reach everyone you think we can find every single person because there was some line sisters we saw all the time at conferences and reunions but there were some we hadn't seen since we left the university.

Oh wow that is a long time yeah really and so we decided to make it a mission that we were going to reach out and find every single person and Beverly even came of carost organization called find a grave because we had sisters they had passed and we weren't sure where they were and we actually were able to confirm the deaths by go put some flowers on them.

Flowers on we are planning to do that because I have to come to California and I probably will go out there this summer so they died in California yes and the young lady was from Texas and we had no idea we had lost contact with her and maybe about five six years out of college can you do an Ivy's beyond the wall thing we couldn't find out where she went in it we could not find her and Beverly was determined to find her.

This time and she was able to find out that she was buried in California and so if so if I die and since I'm not really in touch with my online sisters will you guys come and put like you know I think everybody out of somebody that cries a little bit for them and puts a little flower somewhere

where's a pen on their behalf were you guys because I'm just a summer or two will you come and do that for me yes will even do Ivy beyond the wall if that's all I that sounds so sweet everybody go where white yes and they will honor you but anyway we actually were able to get all of our sisters every single one that was alive that's amazing and they were all on that we did a three fashion line again 21 wow

we did a three session on zoom three session celebration and we had every single one even people who were very ill yeah we're on that call yeah I think we only had we only had 13 people on my people on my line I think we're 12 12 or 13 people but

and I said when you said you had 21 people that that was large but when I think about today I think about some of the lines today with 50 people or 100 people you don't even get to know your lines is there 100 people how do you do that well

leaves the silence line that I couldn't remember because remember I was at an HBCU yeah so the lines there are even back in the day and that was 56 years ago even back in the day the lines were large well the panel in a council controls a lot of that too and I think on white campuses which is where I was they

because we controlled our undergrad chapters the size of it you know saying it could be 25 or it could be 30 you know so it might be depending on how generous the panel in a council is that that has to prove everything so I'm not really sure but you know so I guess I would ask our listeners how do you feel about reaching back into your past and pulling forth some people

from the I don't want to say from the great because they're not all in the great but from the nursing care home facility or I just I think this is now that's not nice eyes are rolling I know I know I know I'm

getting my own eyes on is the point my own eyes so this is the third members organization members classmates from the church with them why would you be out of touch with them I but I raised my children in a wonderful church out here and we haven't been to that church in years I don't even know if some if some of the church members are still there

not but them just saying if you thinking about those people and you realize oh wow we had such a great time raising our kids together I wonder where miss McGillicutty is and just trying to find out where she is and maybe saying hey let's go cross the street to the T house and meet up and talk

well I didn't think the one thing that I that I do have that I've brought from my past is that and those are deeper deeper connections for me are people that we did raise our children together and my orb neighbors because I'm still in contact with people that I mean that I that I we lived in this thing neighborhood when I was in grammar school and and even in high school there are a couple people I'm still in contact with from there there's still a couple people I'm still in contact with from our

first house that we purchased in the city and definitely people that you know we're in contact with from other areas where we lived and people that you know I'm still really good friends with and some are my

sores that I knew down in champagne and see you're going to sing this me right well yeah but I'm not going on Facebook to try to find these people we these are people that we raised our kids together and some of our kids are still

just really good friends we were one of our one person that they they call me auntie you know because we didn't know each other since you know before the babies were born and she just ran for office in in Boston and she she made it you know city city council or something and so you know I had sent her they just had their election and so I sent her a little you know get after a girl thing in the morning of the election and I heard last night late that she

had won and of course I expected her to it was T is about going out getting some of that bus don't even T you know which would be T with cream and so I was really happy to send her you know I know this morning that she had been successful so you know again though I think that the thing there is that we did have so much more in common than high school and high school

problems we raised our children and those children are one of my friends kids reached out they reach out to me and say how are you and what's going on and stuff like the kids do and how do you feel when they reach out to you and say hi well better and I would if a class may reach out to me no but I'm to say how does it make you feel when you get that little

reach out to her then I simply adore them but I don't know maybe that's the difference maybe I don't have anyone from high school high school was a very

contentious time and then the other thing when I think about high school you know my family kept a really short leash on us and so most of my family

were my high school friends I mean when I think about now some of the things that we did we did things together with my family and some of my friends actually came and did things with my family but I didn't really run around or have a lot of friends outside of my family and so that's why I guess when it be worse still close but there you know being ticked off one by one just simply by age and different different elements that that they have cancer and some of the other ones so if a

person isn't able to connect back with high school friends or other placed other other locations or even neighborhoods I have some ideas okay because remember reconnection could be someone you met last year or someone you were in a book club with and you thought oh I really like to talk to that person a little bit more you know so we don't have to go back for centuries we can do that would just people that are

in our lives now I guess we could and I guess if I thought about that now there is this guy one time that we were we had a delay in the airport and he was delayed I think that whole airport was shut down you know used to do that back in the day they were airports I actually got fogged in or stormed in from from renault well actually recently your son was coming in yes there was a bad storm and they stuck four hours on the airplane so that means that people were in the terminals being stuck to being stuck as well and so that was going to be a good thing.

And so I thought this was always a funny little story that kind of stuck in my heart in some kind of way, even though, you know, that was not a real connection.

But I was we were stuck and we kept getting these delays of the airport.

As a matter of fact, we were in Boston and I hit on to the bookstore there.

And so I saw this guy and he saw me and I saw him kind of circle a little bit and I circle a little bit.

But anyway, I went to the coffee shop and then he was at the coffee shop.

Then went back to where the airplane was leaving from and they did announce another two hour delay.

So I thought I would go to legal seafood, which you know, there really goes seafood place, which they were popular in Boston.

And I think they probably was it was probably one of the first restaurants in the Boston airport there.

And so I hit gone there and then he was there and he said, um, do you mind if if I sit down with you and I said, well, yeah, but I'm married.

And he looked at me and he said, well, I didn't ask you to get married.

I asked us to sit down with you.

I laughed so hard.

It was just funny and it was so releasing because he was basically, you know, and he sat down.

And he says, well, actually, I'm married too, but you look like a pretty girl and I thought, I don't want to talk to a pretty girl.

I forgot to be stuck here together.

So it didn't go any further than that.

It really didn't.

But we did exchange names.

So now this is really the funny part about it.

I told my husband and guess what?

He knew him.

Yeah.

So is that a message I learned?

Be careful with who you.

And they knew him and they knew each other well, both from the New York area and that kind of thing.

But I don't think I ever told him my husband's name.

And we were sitting there.

So he didn't say I know him, but we just chatted and laughed and talked and we talked actually all the way to Chicago because turned out.

He was flying on that same plane.

So he wasn't just stuck in the airport.

We were actually flying both from Boston to Chicago.

And we didn't sit together because our seats were not assigned together.

But we kind of, you know, like said, hi, and you know, through a couple of notes or whatever.

So where is he now?

I don't know.

That's my whole point.

I have no idea.

It was what I would call a hit and run.

But if I were going to reach back in time and think about someone, I would really wonder what's he up to now?

What's he doing?

You know, how's his family even?

That would because he was so friendly.

He was like a friend.

I mean, you know, obviously he was a good looking guy or I would not have said sit down or whatever.

But he was funny.

He had a good sense of humor.

He might be single now.

You think he's a whatever?

It could be.

I don't know how to reach him in any way, but anyway, but listen, that's what I hope that do want to reach out.

You know, when I knew we were going to have this conversation, the one thing I did do is I start thinking about that talking to strangers.

And you know what I found out?

What's that?

I found out that there's a thing called Chicago Chat Room talk to strangers.

Yeah.

And you can talk to strangers via a video chat and you just get online and you go to Chicago Chat Room.

Oh, no, no, no.

It's the HTTPS sign is talk to strangers.

That US and slash room and then Chicago because I think that this is a no, this is a global thing.

But if you want to talk specifically to people in Chicago or there was another one called Bublé.

B U B B L I C.

It's an app and it's makes friends in Chicago through deep conversations.

And there's also another one called.

Infatuation.

And it's where you go to make friends in Chicago, the infatuation.

I didn't investigate that one because I thought, eh, that sounds like something for lovers or likeers or whatever.

But there's also another one called it's free.

This one is free.

It's called free, free text chat and it's called chatspin.com.

But I thought now I think I would like to get on one of those and just talk to a Chicago one.

I talked to someone that gets new to Chicago and maybe, you know, just have a conversation.

They're safe.

Their distance is no.

And there's no inclination.

It's not like getting on a dating app where there's an expectation of meeting someone.

This is just meeting a friend.

I don't know.

That's a little bit of a stretch for me.

What?

Yes, because I, the strangers, every day, I have to pull you literally out of the arms, you know, strangers,

but they're strangers that I pick.

I see them.

I pick them here.

I mean, if you were on chatting with someone or video and you didn't like it, you wouldn't, I mean,

you're not even within touching range.

But I am sub, I'm really surprised.

Are they seniors?

Well, I don't just talk to seniors and neither do you.

You talk to anybody.

I do.

I do.

That's a good thing.

Docs don't talk because you sit down and have a conversation with them.

And you think they don't talk.

I don't know.

But why?

I don't know.

So, so we are recommending to you our listeners today that one way to, to get the grief

or to create new community or to build connections is to reach back into your past.

That's Tony's recommendation.

And it doesn't have to be 50 year past.

Well, far back should they go.

I know I'm just saying it can be that long, but it could be the first and you met last month.

A week ago, two weeks ago, five years ago, don't be intimidated by how long.

Just someone that you think of, wow, I really enjoyed that person.

That person is a lot of fun.

I wonder what they're up to and just reach out.

Phone call, email, text through mutual friends.

You might ask how so and so doing.

And just don't be afraid to reconnect.

It's not going backwards.

It's not going in the past.

It's reconnecting again with people that you at one point enjoy.

Wow.

I think that that's Tony's recommendation.

And I support her in that.

My recommendation for making a friend is to reach out to someone new.

I don't know.

It feels like suspense and adventure in that.

It feels like taking a chance on life, taking a chance on you.

It feels like building blocks, like building back into and picking and

choosing a community that you want to be a part of.

Not something that was from the past that, you know, hey, they've moved on.

You've moved on.

I don't want to talk about old people that we used to know and I don't want to talk

about, you know, what things we used to do.

I just want to know what's happening now.

And so I am recommending that you go on to some of these apps like

Bluebick, where you make friends through deep conversation that that appeals to me.

I might try that.

I really, I try that.

So should we do a part two here?

We can, we can do a part two and catch up.

But you have to take the challenge of, we can take the challenge of using one

of the apps.

Okay.

So what am I supposed to do to reconnect?

Email, text, call, email address, try by their home.

I don't drive.

But those are extremely dangerous because there are people out here that people

that drive by.

They call police on you.

You're doing drive.

I'll leave it up to you.

However you want to be creative.

Yes.

Created.

That's interesting.

I, you know, I, I'm not afraid to drive through my old neighborhood,

but I don't think anybody I was just kidding.

Don't drive.

I don't.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

I don't do it.

So I mean, honestly, then how do I do it?

How about text?

But who do I'm?

Where do I, how do I get there?

How do I text someone that I haven't been in touch with forever?

And I don't know how to reach them.

Okay.

Do you have someone in mind that you'd like to reach out other than the stranger

that I can't remember his name that I met in a Boston airport?

Boston's Logan field.

Ah, you could, you could track that person down.

I'll help you.

That'll be fun.

I don't know.

I really, really don't know.

But you know what?

There is one person, Dr. Victoria Jensen, that I really did like and we got on really

well.

She is a PhD person now.

So maybe he also churled out.

I know her kids names and we have just haven't talked in probably 40 years.

I think it would be great fun to connect.

And I'd say that I might know someone or two people that might know.

How to reach her.

That's an idea to tell me.

I love it.

I think that's a great stuff.

You look a fun person.

Yes.

Do a lot.

Yes.

You can tell her what you've been up to and she'll tell you what she's been up to.

Oh, she's been up to probably a lot more dangerous than what I've been up to.

No, I think I think it would be a lot of all the other kids changing all this other stuff.

But I don't know.

And you're very much interested in that.

So I think that will be a good connect.

Okay.

I'll try that.

And then you on the other hand, are you going to try a boobick or a pot who is strange?

I absolutely will.

I absolutely will.

And then I'll report on how easy it is to use or, you know, how safe I felt or whatever.

So I will challenge us challenges.

Okay.

Well, that's it for us today, people.

And if you are filling any kind of way about possibly grief, but yet and still are ready

to move on or to make some changes or even if you, you know, are just filming that you

want to try something new and different and exciting, those are a couple of ideas.

There's something in this idea of reconnecting as Tony put it or connecting as I would like

to put it.

And so for me, I think I'm going to just dance my way on out of here.

Me too.

And if you want to reconnect with us, you know how?

Thank you.

Until next time.

Until next time.