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Join us this week on Check the Net's, Impact89’s College Basketball Podcast, for a special double feature! In part 1, Kylee, Eli, and Colin talk Feast Week chaos on the women's side, with the rise of MSU and the fall of Creighton. Then, join the crew in part 2 where they discuss a historic week on the men's side, with 24 ranked losses in a single week, followed by 4 losses in the top 5 the week after! You won't want to miss this special set of episodes with Check the Net!

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Kylee:

Welcome to part 2 of Check the Net's feast week double feature on Impact 80 9's men's and women's college basketball podcast. I am your host, Kylie Tabler. We are back, and I am joined today by my favorite Taurus and my favorite Cancer, Eli Flukemott and Collin Pearson.

Colin:

Oh, shoot.

Kylee:

We are back. Time to talk about men's basketball.

Eli:

Add us on costar.

Kylee:

So true. I'm a Libra, clearly.

Colin:

We all come.

Kylee:

So so

Eli:

It's obvious.

Kylee:

It's obvious. It would've We are here with men's basketball. Basketball. We thought the women's side was kind of crazy, which because that typically, like, those kind of upsets typically don't happen that often. With the men's basketball, I was getting flashbacks to March, which is crazy because it is it was November, and it is December now.

Colin:

Frankly, I've never seen a March, like, feast week of this year. No. 24 ranked losses in a single week.

Kylee:

Yeah. 24 in 7 days. Fire. Fire.

Eli:

I love it.

Colin:

There are only 25 teams on the AP poll.

Kylee:

Yes. And they all lost. That

Colin:

was stunning.

Kylee:

They all went down.

Eli:

And a lot of them went down where? Maui. Maui.

Colin:

Let's start with Maui.

Kylee:

This tournament we were the most excited about, which very, very fair. A lot of fun stuff happened.

Eli:

And before we even get into it, I picked the winner.

Colin:

Yeah. I picked the losers.

Kylee:

I picked the mega loser.

Eli:

They picked 5th and 8th, and I picked 1st.

Colin:

Look. My 5th is only because they lost to your first. Maybe they

Kylee:

should have won.

Eli:

Maybe they should have won.

Kylee:

Maybe they should have won.

Colin:

It was a very

Eli:

close game. Maybe they should have won.

Colin:

Close game.

Eli:

Because Auburn Auburn won, and Iowa State didn't

Kylee:

and Yukon got mega last. I'm not apologizing to Dan Hurley because that was just embarrassing, and it wasn't my entirely my fault for cursing them. They should have done one at least one of their games. I'm sorry.

Eli:

Yep. The back to back national champions

Kylee:

Went 0 and 3.

Eli:

Using the Colorado and Dayton

Kylee:

And Memphis, who Memphis is talented. Look.

Colin:

Memphis should have been ranked preseason. They they lost to all the rest of

Eli:

the season. 3 unranked teams back to back

Colin:

to back.

Kylee:

Yes. Which is insane and unheard of. I

Colin:

Out of out of

Eli:

the 4 unranked teams that were in Maui, UConn lost 2 or 3 of them.

Kylee:

Yeah. Played 3 of them.

Colin:

And Michigan State was the only one they didn't play.

Kylee:

Who at I mean, well, I'm gonna start with that. I'm gonna start with that. Michigan State University. I knew I'm proud of our showing. I knew we were beating Colorado.

Kylee:

I said we were gonna beat Colorado, but I'm very, very proud of our showing.

Colin:

A close game with Memphis.

Kylee:

Very

Colin:

proud. Win over North Carolina.

Kylee:

Just Huge. Beautiful. And, honestly, couldn't have asked for anything better. Our shooting finally started to pick up from the outside.

Colin:

Got it. Like We

Eli:

got our revenge from our tournament games.

Kylee:

Yes. Absolutely. Revenge game. Blast. I mean, it was just

Colin:

Our defense was great. Cohen Carr was setting momentum every Yes.

Eli:

We had, like, 6 players in double digits for points.

Colin:

For multiple games.

Kylee:

Multiple games. I mean, we are spreading the wealth on our team. I mean, it is just it is It's a deep

Colin:

team, and it's a team that when we can shoot, we are unstoppable right now. Winning.

Kylee:

And so it was just it's

Eli:

Thankfully, that is clearly something we are actually working on because we have seen progress

Colin:

Yeah.

Eli:

Change.

Kylee:

Progress after last night, after Wednesday night's win against miss.

Eli:

Tom Tom Izzo doesn't do that, so this is incredible.

Kylee:

Yes. So I'm very I'm I'm I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'm very very happy of how we played in Maui.

Colin:

Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk. I'm gonna talk Who should we talk first?

Kylee:

Let's talk the champion.

Colin:

After that.

Kylee:

Because I really want me to discuss the champion, because I think that Auburn was heads and shoulders above everyone else in Maui.

Colin:

I In Maui, yes. Absolutely.

Kylee:

I mean Specifically in the after?

Colin:

In those three games, they dominated. Absolutely. Offensively, defensively. I mean, this was an SEC team playing their usual style of offense.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

High power. Frankly, better than last year's offense for Auburn. Yes. And then they actually played, like, solid defense, lockdown defense the entire tournament. And they adapted.

Colin:

They were pressing. They were adapting. We saw them try zone and, man on man. We saw them try a bunch of different things, and everything worked.

Kylee:

Yeah.

Colin:

Every single time, it worked for Auburn. They were so adaptive.

Kylee:

Yeah. I mean, they looked great. And watching, especially, the championship game, I mean, it wasn't even close.

Eli:

It was it was dominance.

Kylee:

It was just

Eli:

And Memphis Memphis is a great team.

Kylee:

Very great shooting team. I mean

Colin:

They just they Yeah. Memphis's offense was on a roll.

Eli:

They just couldn't hang with Auburn.

Kylee:

No. But, yeah, Auburn looked great, I think. I think, again, Memphis also looked great. I mean, they were they're in the top 10 in the nation shooting or whatever Yeah. Which is amazing.

Eli:

Ranked now and they deserve it.

Kylee:

They yes. A 100%. I mean, come on out the gate, beating UConn.

Colin:

Yeah. Ranked above former AAC member Houston.

Kylee:

Yep.

Eli:

Hey. Good for them.

Kylee:

Give them their flowers.

Eli:

Pre preseason, we said Memphis was on their revenge tour this year.

Colin:

Yep. Yeah. We ranked Memphis and

Eli:

And here they are.

Colin:

And and here they are.

Kylee:

So in conclusion, once again, we are better

Colin:

than the

Kylee:

a people.

Colin:

And we

Eli:

should be AP voters.

Colin:

Basically. Iowa State obviously played a lot of good games too. They played some very interesting games. They had a lot of

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

They had some great first halfs and some very rough second halfs Yeah. With Iowa State.

Eli:

Very very fun preview of big twelve play with their win against Colorado.

Kylee:

Yeah.

Colin:

Yes.

Eli:

That was fun.

Colin:

But, like, I also wanna talk about Dayton.

Kylee:

I'm an I'm a Dayton lover. I'm a Dayton advocate.

Colin:

2 the first two losses were both,

Kylee:

They had to be comeback.

Colin:

They were both comebacks. Yeah. And, like, they almost beat UNC. It was a last second comeback from UNC that beat Dayton. And then Iowa State, it was a very similar game.

Colin:

Felt like a little bit of deja vu even.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

Because it was almost the exact same thing.

Eli:

Dayton, javu.

Colin:

And then Yukon. Dayton held off that comeback.

Kylee:

Thank goodness. Good for that.

Eli:

Dayton Dayton dominated Yukon.

Colin:

Yeah. There wasn't even a comeback attempt.

Eli:

Sad.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

Yeah. That was one of the most boring games of the tournament, frankly. It was Dayton, Yukon, because Dayton dominated.

Eli:

And clear because, clearly, at that point, Yukon had just given up.

Kylee:

Yeah. Which is embarrassing, honestly.

Eli:

Boring and sad.

Kylee:

It is. And, I mean, after watching Dayton play, I was confused. Why were they not ranked going into Maui? Like, genuinely. Like, I Why are

Colin:

they not ranked coming out of Maui?

Kylee:

Right. Like, that's what I don't understand. I was like

Colin:

They're a 2 loss team with those losses coming to the number, what, 20 now and 6 in the country, and they were both come back

Kylee:

Yeah. Like Like wind. I mean, we could say the same thing about Michigan State not being ranked out of Maui

Colin:

Yeah.

Kylee:

Which is a whole

Eli:

It's like clothing with a wind over North Carolina.

Kylee:

Like, that's a can of worms that I'll I'll rant about for hours. Yeah.

Colin:

Yeah. I mean but Yukon should not be right, doctor Maui. No.

Kylee:

No. And they are. Of course, they are.

Colin:

They're 25th, right above Michigan State at, 26th.

Eli:

And and they did pull off the bounce back win against Baylor, but I'm really not I'm not convinced that kind of either of those schools are top 25 teams.

Kylee:

No. Baylor has not been looking like they should.

Colin:

Baylor hasn't improved anything all season. No.

Eli:

I mean, they had that win over Arkansas, but

Colin:

And Arkansas sucks. Arkansas is right behind us at 27th.

Kylee:

Arkansas is another team that is all offense, no deep typical Calipari team.

Eli:

Typical SCC.

Kylee:

All offense, no defense. However Baylor had to play a little bit of defense to beat them. That's it.

Colin:

That tends to work in the SCC.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

I'm wondering if it'll work this year, because as we saw with Auburn's figured it out. The battle for with Auburn and in the battle for Atlantis with Oklahoma. Yeah. We saw 2 SCC teams win their tournaments.

Kylee:

By playing defense.

Colin:

And it was yeah. By playing defense and offense at high levels. I mean, these were both strong, strong teams.

Kylee:

And watching these tournaments was so fun. Like, it get like, it really was. Yeah. Before I move on to Atlantis, I do wanna quickly make note of UNC. 2 losses.

Colin:

Go for it.

Kylee:

They have no inside presence whatsoever. That's why they lost. Yep. They they can't rely they there is a Armando Bay Bacot shaped hole on their team

Eli:

Yep.

Kylee:

Because, you know, he graduated. And they just don't have anyone to fill it, which means I mean, Moshiach, Michigan State, they were in the lane in the lane and, like, just taking them straight into the hoop. And it was, like, they weren't doing anything. Like, they they could not do anything. So, I mean I

Colin:

mean, I don't see anyone on that team that can fix that either. No. And I see. There's not a bench player that, like, came in and played really okay in that spot even.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

They were just missing an entire position on their court.

Kylee:

Yeah. And that's why they haven't that's why they're not winning. Yeah. Because they have can they just lose again? Yeah.

Kylee:

Yeah. That's why they're losing multiple games.

Eli:

Oh, yeah. Like, they just lost to Alabama.

Colin:

Yeah. Now, Alabama is a very good team. That's a whole another story.

Kylee:

Yeah. That's not that's not really disparaging on UNC. However, like, without that, probably, they gotta fix that. They gotta find some way to kinda patch it up.

Eli:

They're on a 3 game losing streak.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

Yeah. Now they're 4 and 3.

Eli:

It's not pretty.

Colin:

Just like Yeah. Houston.

Eli:

Not pretty.

Kylee:

Why do we have multiple 4 and 3 teams in the top 25?

Eli:

We have they're 5 and 3.

Kylee:

Okay.

Colin:

Oh, they are 5 and 3 now? Oh, duh, because they just won. Yeah. I had written down 4 and 3, because

Kylee:

Just some of the some of the records that are present in the top 25 are kinda crazy.

Colin:

Yeah.

Kylee:

But, alright. Maui, fun. Super fun, energetic. It was great. I was happy to watch.

Kylee:

I was happy to stay up late and watch because some of these games are late, man.

Colin:

Absolutely.

Kylee:

To Atlantis. Atlantis. Super fun. Oklahoma taking it. Really good showing from them.

Colin:

Really good. Oklahoma surprised me a lot with not expecting them.

Kylee:

They were one of the longest running undefeated teams last year.

Colin:

Yeah. And they're still undefeated this year.

Kylee:

Yeah. And then they fell off really bad last year. They they fell off a lot.

Colin:

Yeah. But that was because they were in the big twelve.

Kylee:

Right. No. I mean yeah.

Colin:

And Oklahoma and the big or in the SEC

Kylee:

They might still fall off again. We'll see. There's a chance. There is a chance.

Colin:

Because I feel like their play style in the big twelve really didn't match.

Kylee:

Yeah. You

Colin:

know, they did not play a ton a ton of defense like the big twelve did.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

In the SEC, who is just now adjusting to, like, hey, wait, defense is the thing and exists.

Kylee:

Man. I

Colin:

think Oklahoma could be really freaking good.

Kylee:

Yeah. They gotta go chat.

Eli:

I I will say, Gonzaga was disappointing.

Kylee:

Very.

Eli:

Because they Yes. They were clearly the Atlanta's favorites. Taking that early loss, not not great.

Kylee:

You know who is Not great. Even more disappointing? Indiana.

Eli:

Yes.

Kylee:

Like, I watched them lose by 30 points to Louisville, and I sat there and I was, like, you've gotta be kidding. Yep.

Eli:

Yeah. Speaking of, Colin was right about something for

Kylee:

once. Yeah.

Eli:

Louisville is back.

Colin:

Louisville is back. Back.

Kylee:

Well, I forgot that. Chuckie Hepburn transferred there. And so I'm sitting there watching. I was like, wait a minute. Yeah.

Colin:

I was

Kylee:

like, I don't know who that is. He went to Wisconsin last year.

Colin:

Hold on. Y'all made fun of me for saying that Yeah. And for, like, debating putting them at the top of my ACC. And here we are with Louisville taking second in the battle for Atlantis. Yeah.

Colin:

Some major wins, huge talent. You know, a loss to Oklahoma at the end, but, like, that is a team that could make it far in a, frankly, very weak ACC this year.

Kylee:

Definitely. Yeah. That's alarming. It's quite alarming, actually.

Colin:

I I am really enjoying that. I'm really enjoying it. Reveling in the moment, you know.

Kylee:

As you should.

Colin:

You should. Back to Gonzaga. They really don't have a signature win this year yet. I was Baylor. But

Kylee:

But, Baylor's, we talked about Baylor.

Eli:

But we but we've talked about Baylor.

Colin:

Yeah. And, like, they beat San Diego State.

Kylee:

That's I don't really consider that a signature win.

Colin:

No. Those are their 2 ranked wins currently.

Kylee:

What are they ranked right now?

Colin:

They are ranked 7th in the country.

Eli:

That

Kylee:

sounds too high. It does. That sounds

Colin:

too high. But obviously, you know, battle for Atlantis They had not happened by the time the rankings came out.

Eli:

They Or

Colin:

had not finished up.

Eli:

They handled Indiana pretty convincingly They did. To Atlantis.

Colin:

They did. They lost to West Virginia. They beat Davidson by a ton. Yeah.

Kylee:

Well,

Colin:

yeah. But, you know, they really only have 2 good opportunities to make a point to the committee that they deserve to be, you know, in the

Eli:

A top

Colin:

in the tournament Yeah. At the end of the year. I see. And it's

Eli:

their next two games.

Colin:

Their next two games are number 4 Kentucky Whoo. And Yukon.

Kylee:

Loss. Wow.

Colin:

Which, Yukon, we don't even know if that'll be a reasonable game.

Kylee:

No.

Colin:

You know? Yeah. And so you look at their schedule, you've got, what, Washington state and Saint Mary's. Like, that's that's about all you got.

Kylee:

And Saint Mary's, they won they won their tournament. Yeah. I watch them win.

Colin:

Saint Mary's looks really freaking good.

Kylee:

And they're they're they're very diff they're a very defensively minded

Colin:

I could see a 2 team West Coast conference this year in the tournament without, Gonzaga, I

Kylee:

think. Interesting.

Colin:

Because Washington state is again looking pretty good.

Kylee:

I can see I mean, I don't know if Gonzaga will get, like like, on And San

Colin:

Francisco also looks really good. That's another team that looks great in the West Coast conference this year.

Kylee:

It'll be it'll be very, very interesting to see what Gonzaga does. Like, they might have to rely on that that tournament auto bid Yeah.

Colin:

For a

Eli:

They might have to.

Colin:

San Francisco at a 4 point loss to Memphis. Yeah. There you go. And they beat Boise State by 9. Interesting.

Colin:

So, you know, this is it's it's gonna be a very interesting year for Gonzaga in the West Coast Conference now that, Oregon State, Washington State are there.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

And, you know

Kylee:

After we thought they were gonna have an insanely strong season

Eli:

After after we thought nobody was gonna be in their way, Mhmm. Maybe some people are gonna be in the way.

Colin:

They're in

Kylee:

their own way at this point.

Colin:

They are

Eli:

kind of getting in their own way.

Colin:

Yeah. Yeah. So that'll be really interesting. Louisville's back. Yeah.

Colin:

West Virginia looks back. Yeah. So they were rough. West Virginia, looked like they were back

Kylee:

Yeah.

Colin:

Too, frankly. They

Kylee:

look pretty good.

Colin:

After a few down years, they, they looked pretty good.

Kylee:

Another competitive team.

Colin:

Big 12 good? I don't know. I don't know.

Kylee:

No. I can say no right now. Maybe there'll be some game Steelers.

Colin:

Maybe. I think that'll be more likely.

Eli:

Out outside of those big those big three day multi team event tournaments, we had a couple of marquee one off matchups. We had the SCCA challenge. And in Vegas, we had a number 12 Duke versus number 1 Kansas, and Kansas won 75 to 72.

Kylee:

I'm so irritated about this game. Watching this game in time was the most irritating thing I've ever seen in my life. Hunter Dickinson got ejected for a flagrant too. It was blatantly obvious to everybody, except for the announcers, which was crazy.

Colin:

Yeah. He kicked a guy in the face.

Kylee:

Kicked someone in the face. You you

Colin:

can't do that. That's an immediate ejection. Yes. Frankly, shouldn't like, here's the other thing. When you're ejected with a fragrant chew, you are supposed to leave your arena.

Colin:

Back to the locker rooms, go get dressed. His coach let him stay, and the referees didn't notice for about 5 minutes. That's absurd.

Kylee:

It's absurd. And after that, the refs got extremely whistle happy against Duke specifically to to kind of curb the effects of losing Hunter Dickinson. However, we saw yet again in crunch time that Duke Duke's notable players are young. I mean, you watched, Cooper Flagg mishandled the ball again in Yep. Crunch time down 1 or 2, mishandled the ball again.

Kylee:

And one of their more notable freshman, I'm blanking on his name right now, went over the entire game. Like, did not make a single 3 pointer, and he's a very good shooter. Did not make a single one. I mean, it was absurd for absurd for Duke that they did not end up winning that game because of hun Hunter Dickinson's ejection. Will I blame the refs for that for part of it?

Kylee:

Sure. I will blame the rest for part of it. However,

Colin:

it's Duke also has many chances.

Eli:

And Yeah. Duke Duke missed 5 free throws and lost by 3.

Kylee:

Like yeah. And there there it is. There's those points.

Colin:

Now here's the other thing. Duke played back to back games against number 1 and number 2 in the AP poll. Fire. And they won the second one. They beat Auburn after Auburn won Maui.

Colin:

Super impressive showing. Duke ended up winning 84 to 78 in the, SEC ACC challenge. And, frankly, I was expecting Auburn to be the new number 1. Kansas lost just before that. We'll talk about that in a little bit.

Kylee:

Oh, yes. We will.

Colin:

But, like, I expected Auburn to be the new number 1 after I saw Kansas lose. And then I checked the score of Duke, and Auburn is also losing.

Eli:

My go.

Colin:

Yeah. But really Yeah.

Eli:

That that was a must win game for Duke. That Oh, no question. Because after after struggling at the champions classic, that lost to Kansas, to remain a top 10 team and retain national level respect and to to continue being ACC favorites, they had to win this game, and and they pulled it out. They managed it. They won 8478.

Eli:

Mhmm. I mean, they really, really capitalized on some rare ball handling mistakes from Auburn. They the blue What a few of them. Yeah. Sixteen fast break points and 13 off turnovers compared to Auburn's 0 and 1 in those categories, which is really not great for Auburn, but impressive improvement from Duke.

Eli:

Yeah. But Duke missed 10 free throws out of their 27.

Kylee:

That's yeah. Yeah. That's You gotta fix that. You gotta

Colin:

That's where MSU was last

Eli:

year, and

Colin:

that's why MSU lost 2 games.

Eli:

They didn't need all of those free throws this game, but you gotta make those.

Colin:

Yeah. But 10 more points would have made a 94, 78 game.

Kylee:

Would have made it even more impressive win.

Colin:

Not a 6 point win, a 16 point win. That's a big deal.

Kylee:

Yeah. Huge difference. I mean, Duke was due for a top 5 win. Absolutely. They, like, they they they were close.

Kylee:

Like, they were ready.

Eli:

Stumbling at the finish line.

Colin:

And, you

Kylee:

know, and Auburn just happened to be to be the victim this time.

Colin:

Yeah. I wanna also say, Duke really looked like they were outpacing Auburn throughout that entire game. I still fully expect Auburn to be top of the SEC based on how they played. But after the postgame press conference, Auburn's coach said his team didn't play good defense, and they're gonna cut down on fouls. Mhmm.

Colin:

Like, his coach their coach immediately went to the drawing board. Okay. Here's what we did bad. Here's how we're gonna fix it. I really respect that from Auburn's coach.

Colin:

Mhmm. Not looking at it like, oh, we were tired from Maui. You know? Right. There are a lot of coaches out

Kylee:

there some excuses.

Colin:

Who would do that. And he goes, we didn't play good defense. We fouled a lot. We're not gonna do that anymore.

Kylee:

Yeah.

Colin:

And so and also, I really like that he talked about defense for an SEC team. Yeah.

Kylee:

Yeah. It's refreshing.

Eli:

I fully expect Auburn to adapt because that's that's what they've done this season. They've adapted to meet their opponents. They've contorted themselves to win basketball games, and I think this was really okay.

Colin:

A little bit of a wake up call

Kylee:

for you.

Eli:

Just like South Carolina.

Kylee:

Yeah. They're not invincible, and they're still gonna have to continue to play at the same high level they were playing in Maui.

Colin:

Is any team invincible at this point? No.

Eli:

No. Clearly.

Colin:

I don't think they are.

Eli:

One is.

Colin:

It's it's been such a fun last 2 weeks.

Kylee:

Yes. It has.

Colin:

Seriously. It has. Should we move on to Craden?

Kylee:

No. No. No. No. No.

Kylee:

My babies. My babies is Kylie. At

Colin:

the time loss at least.

Kylee:

It was a ranked loss, but they just really did not do well. Like, well, during Thanksgiving, they were not doing well. At the time, this was number 14, Creighton at the time. Now they're unranked versus number 23, Texas a and m. They lost 77 to 73.

Kylee:

I was watching this game, and then I think I turned it off to watch MSU. Yeah. And I think that's why they lost because I was watching. But

Colin:

Uh-huh. Sure. It was lose the other 2 last week because you weren't watching too?

Kylee:

Yeah. They did. Yeah. Well, basically, that's the reason. That's why.

Kylee:

Yeah. And awful. I it's truly devastating for me as a Creighton fan. They just I don't they're just not consistent. It's their problem right now.

Colin:

Yeah. That is definitely their problem. They're inconsistent team.

Kylee:

That is the only thing right now. I mean, they've got the talent. They've got decent they've got good shooters. They've got a good inside presence. They're just not consistent.

Kylee:

And, like, that's gonna be a problem if they can't pick that up.

Colin:

Yeah. When they're good, they are really freaking good.

Kylee:

Yeah.

Colin:

Speaking of and I don't think we even wrote this one down. They beat Kansas, number 1.

Kylee:

Brown. Brown.

Colin:

Brown. They were the ones to be number 1 Kansas when I was, you know, watching and thinking, oh, Auburn's gonna be the new number 1. It was Creighton that beat them.

Kylee:

Never been happier in my entire life. They beat the number one team this year. They beat the number one team last year. Creighton was

Colin:

coming off of 3 losses Mhmm. To Texas A&M, to San Diego State, and to Nebraska. Now Texas A&M and San Diego State are obviously both still ranked or ranked now. Nebraska is right outside of that. Creighton then beat Notre Dame by 4 points, which is not an impressive win by any means.

Kylee:

No. Not at all.

Colin:

Because Notre Dame is not good, and a 4 point win over them is embarrassing almost. And then they came out and just 13 point win over number 1 Kansas.

Kylee:

Creighton girl for life over here. Because that's when you put a a big player against Hunter Dickinson. You have someone who can play defense on Hunter Dickinson. That's all she wrote. Yeah.

Kylee:

That's what I'm saying.

Eli:

I I really think the big east looks a lot more even and a lot weaker this year.

Kylee:

Definitely. I would think

Eli:

I would sure. Creighton can get away with being a little more inconsistent. And I I think the big east champion this year is gonna lose, like, 4 conference games.

Kylee:

It's gonna be Marquette. I yeah. I was just about to say, I think it's probably gonna be Marquette.

Colin:

Maybe Xavier.

Kylee:

But Not No. Not Xavier. They just lost.

Colin:

No. I know they just lost. Not Xavier. Definitely.

Eli:

I I think it's gonna be Marquette, and they're gonna lose 3 to 4 conference games and still win it.

Kylee:

Mhmm. I still think Creighton's got a decent shot, but they gotta even it out.

Colin:

Wake up.

Kylee:

Yeah. Yeah. They gotta and who knows? Maybe maybe Yukon will come back for revenge, but I don't know. We'll see.

Colin:

There's a lot of lot of question marks all around over there.

Kylee:

Yeah. Especially, yeah. The big east is a big fat question mark because of what is going on with those teams.

Colin:

Yeah. The big twelve is a big fat question mark because they're all good.

Kylee:

Yeah. That it's yeah. Yeah. All good might be a stretch.

Colin:

Yeah. Yeah. They're mostly good. You know what other conferences are question mark right now?

Eli:

The mountain west.

Colin:

The mountain west and the a 10. Oh, period. The a 10, especially, frankly. A 10 is kind of absurd right now. Rhode Island and Loyola Chicago are both no losses.

Colin:

Yep. I love that. Not Loyola. Has two losses, obviously.

Eli:

But it was Maui.

Colin:

But it was Maui. George Washington has two losses to rank 10th. Davidson has 2 losses at, Atlantis. Atlantis. Virginia Commonwealth has 2 losses.

Colin:

And now the team I wanna talk about, one loss, Saint Bonaventure. Their loss is to the Mountain West current leader, Utah State. Coming out of nowhere. In the NIT tip-off.

Kylee:

Being good.

Colin:

Yeah. Utah State shouldn't be good. Frank, looking at their talent pool, looking at their recruiting classes, none of it points to Utah State being good again.

Kylee:

And they are.

Colin:

But they're undefeated.

Kylee:

Which is crazy. They're serving right now.

Colin:

Yeah. Let me just look up yeah. They're 8 now. Yeah.

Kylee:

Yeah. There's only a handful of undefeated teams left in d one Kyle Dressler. There's, like, what, 6?

Colin:

Yeah. Yeah. Utah State's one of them.

Kylee:

Period. Utah State and Loyola, Chicago. And Rhode Island. And and Rhode Island.

Colin:

There's 22 undefeateds in the a ten right now.

Kylee:

Yeah. They're eating it up.

Colin:

But let's talk NIT tip-off, Utah State versus Saint Bonaventure. That was my game of the week. Utah State won that 72/67. Frankly, it was a great game. I did watch a good bit of it.

Colin:

Great game from both teams. Saint Bonaventure had a 5 point lead at half. Utah State, couldn't miss in the second half. They have 47 points in the second half, which is absurd in a 72 point game. Mhmm.

Colin:

They shot 50%, overall in the second half and 40% from 3 compared to 23% and 11% from 3 in the first half. Wow. Saint Bonaventure, on the other hand, is one of the most consistent teams I have ever seen. In their last, like, 4 games, I didn't look any farther back than that, but it probably goes back farther than that. They've shot 42% every single half or, like, within 1 or 2%.

Colin:

Wow. Every single half for the last, like, 4 games.

Eli:

Wow.

Colin:

They are just Yeah. Consistent. And that is threes and other shots. That's fine. Yeah?

Colin:

Just consistently. 42, 42, 41, 43, 42.

Kylee:

That's the makings of a winning team. It is. Exactly. Like, it is.

Eli:

But it also means that you're not going to win a game against a team that goes crazy like Utah State did in the second half. And the Aggies got 28 free throws and sank 22 of them compared to 9 of 15 for Saint Bonaventure.

Colin:

Yeah. That's a big piece of that story for

Eli:

a 5 point win. And really, Utah State just stayed out of foul trouble and got and drew a lot of those free throws a lot of those free points. Mhmm. So Saint Bonaventure, a really good shooting team.

Colin:

A lot of those were in garbage time, I will say. You know, it was Saint Bonaventure fouling on purpose.

Eli:

But it was a 5 point game. Exactly. So

Colin:

Yeah. So, obviously, very close game. Very fun one to watch. Saint Bonaventure is gonna be it's gonna be them and Loyola, Chicago, and Dayton, and VCU. VCU and

Eli:

Not Rhode Island.

Colin:

And Rhode Island too.

Eli:

Rhode Island.

Colin:

Rhode Island's undefeated right now.

Eli:

Yeah. But they're not gonna win the

Colin:

a 10. Let me have hope now. Saint Louis, honestly, too. They're a 3 loss team in the a ten, but remember, they are pretty much Indiana State's team from last year. Yes.

Kylee:

True.

Colin:

So they're an interesting one in there too.

Kylee:

Well, y'all, time to talk about You got another game. My darlings of March, Saint Peter's versus FDU, and Saint Peter's won 78 to 76. So truly a pretty pretty good match up there.

Colin:

Yeah. 2 point game.

Kylee:

Close games for my for my darlings. And, honestly, just watching them compete against each other, they could be upsetters again. Yeah. Upset making teams

Colin:

again.

Eli:

It was a great second half from Saint Peter's, especially. The peacock shot more than 50% from the field to overpower them 4436 in the second, and they barely scraped away with the road win. And Saint Peter's has only played one home game.

Colin:

Wow.

Eli:

They've really they've been coin flips

Kylee:

Well traveled.

Eli:

They've been coin flips, these road games, but I I think once they really settle in that conference schedule and they're at home a lot Yeah. The people got to go crazy. Yeah.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

I mean, this battle for New Jersey was a lot of fun. The big takeaway I had is that both teams could pull off the impossible if a team isn't, like, prepared to face them.

Kylee:

Oh, yeah.

Colin:

You know, these shooting percentages are crazy high. The steal stats are crazy high, which is a little concerning for both teams with that many turnovers, but I think it was more steals, frankly, than, like, force it was more force turnovers than, like, loose ball handling.

Kylee:

Mhmm.

Colin:

And so both of these teams are teams that could do something crazy come March. Yeah. If they make the tournament.

Eli:

Yeah.

Colin:

It's a big if still, obviously. You know, they gotta win their conference tournament.

Eli:

And we'll we'll see we'll see how they fare. Yeah. But in my small conference game, we had Nevada versus Washington State and Wazu won 68 to 57, which I Washington State has done way above way above my expectations this year Mhmm. With their their core of ewoo players from last year.

Colin:

Yeah. They stole Eastern Washington's entire roster for reference, essentially.

Eli:

They held Nevada to just 21 points in the first half. They Nevada really struggled from long range. They made 4 of 20, and they only made 1 3 pointer in the first half. They they were markedly improved in the second half, yeah, on accuracy, but they played slower, they played more careful, and they didn't take a lot of shots. And so they could not complete the comeback and lost by 11.

Colin:

Yeah. I mean, what I was really watching with that game is how slow Washington state was playing. I mean, that that pace was incredibly slow. It's almost hard to watch how slow they were playing. They would take the full 30 seconds almost every time in the court.

Kylee:

It is a strategy. It it is. It is.

Colin:

And I wonder if they'll be forcing West Coast Conference, Powerhouses, Gonzaga, and Saint Mary's to hold that pace.

Kylee:

That'll be that'll be interesting.

Colin:

Because Gonzaga doesn't play slow, and neither does Saint Mary's. And if so and neither does Nevada, frankly. Mhmm. So if Wazu can force them to play that slow pace and make them really uncomfortable there, that could be a really, really interesting strategy that could play out really well for them.

Kylee:

Yeah. They're just gonna have to be able to hold on to the ball for that long.

Colin:

The other problem. The other end of that is exactly that. Yeah. Will they be forced to play fast? Because Gonzaga and Saint Mary's are in that conference.

Kylee:

Watching, Saint Mary's, they are a very defensively oriented team this year.

Colin:

Very.

Kylee:

And so I think that if they can

Colin:

But they're also very fast on offense.

Kylee:

They are

Colin:

very fast. To make a lot of quick plays.

Kylee:

So if, I mean, if they can get some steals out of teams holding the ball for this long, I mean, they're yeah. It's it's an interesting way to go about it, and I'd respect it, honestly. But you look at it.

Colin:

Nevada is usually a pretty fast team too, and they usually get a lot of turnovers or force a lot of turnovers. They're pretty similar style of play to Gonzaga and Saint Mary's. Mhmm. Maybe a little lower level, but, like, if Nevada was forced to slow down and Washington state could win like that, I just wonder, will it work in the West Coast Conference?

Kylee:

It'll be

Colin:

We've never seen it tried.

Kylee:

Yeah. And I I I like it. I like the change of pace. I like how it's different than what we'll we see in legitimately every other, like, team in basketball, every other conference in basketball. It's that quick pace.

Kylee:

It's that get out and run. Run and gun, like, you're either, like, driving all the way down the court and, like, getting into the lane, or you're kicking the ball out for an open 3. Now slowing the game down, I mean, it's just

Colin:

You don't see it very often, but if you can make it work like Washington state is Yeah. You could theoretically do some crazy things.

Eli:

Absolutely. Of faster conferences on offense, we also had the SCC ACC challenge on the men's side this week, and the SCC completely ran away with it. Oh, yeah. 14 to 2.

Kylee:

Yeah. I think it's just time to accept the fact that the ACC is not a strong basketball conference all around. Like, they have a few few strong teams. We talked about them being pretty top heavy, but, I mean, everyone else just lags tremendously, and it gets bad.

Colin:

This challenge really proves

Eli:

that they're Maybe Louisville. The ACC is just super top heavy because the 2 highest ranked southern schools lost, Kentucky to Clemson and Auburn to to Duke, and every other SEC to me won. Mizuho had a 21 point comeback from down 16 at the half to beat Cal 98 to 93. Like, just down the line, the SCC is way deeper and just base level more talented than the average ACC team.

Colin:

Yeah. You just don't hear things about Georgia Tech or 4 and 4 UNC.

Kylee:

Yeah.

Colin:

I

Kylee:

know. I love 4 and 4 UNC. You know?

Colin:

Currently, the best team in North Carolina is Wake Forest at 7 and 3.

Kylee:

That's fire. See, I love I like that a lot.

Colin:

I guess, Duke has 2 losses. They're 6 and 2. So you could argue for either of those 2. I'm

Kylee:

gonna pick Wake Forest anyway.

Colin:

It's between Duke and Wake Forest. NC states 53. Yeah. And then you get UNC at 44.

Kylee:

That's great. I like to see it. I like to see it.

Colin:

It's just, Clemson is 8 and 1 right now, and I don't know what to do about Clemson.

Kylee:

They had a great run last year in the tournament.

Colin:

Yeah. I also don't know what to do about Southern Methodist. 7 and 2 right now, but they haven't played anybody. Pittsburgh is 7 and 2.

Kylee:

Southern Methodist is in the SCC?

Colin:

ACC.

Kylee:

ACC? What the heck?

Eli:

SMU. SMU.

Kylee:

Oh, that's their full name. Sorry, guys. My bad. Why would I know they're called SMU, Southern Methodist? I thought that was some small, like, WAC conference or something stupid.

Eli:

Anyway Yeah. Alright.

Kylee:

Ignore me.

Eli:

As we said, it was the week of the upset. We had, you know, Yukon getting swept in Maui, a bunch of other Maui upsets, Iowa State to Auburn. We had the Players Era Festival in, Vegas where we saw Alabama lose to Oregon. Bunch of and we had we saw Arkansas lose to Illinois.

Kylee:

Rutgers lost to Kennesaw State. Yeah.

Eli:

That was

Colin:

insane. That was beautiful. I loved that. Poetry in motion. 24 ranked Rutgers lost to Kennesaw State.

Eli:

Those were all back in November. This week in December, we had

Colin:

10 losses We had including 1, 2, 4, 5, 8.

Eli:

And a lot of them were to unranked teams. Wisconsin to Michigan, Cincy to Villanova, Kentucky to Clemson, Purdue to Penn State, Pitt to Mississippi State Kansas to Creighton. Challenge.

Kylee:

Kansas to Creighton.

Colin:

Xavier held off one of those upsets, beating South Carolina State by 3 points. South Carolina State

Eli:

is Xavier.

Colin:

They're south, I believe.

Eli:

I think they're in the SWAC.

Colin:

Are they in the SWAC? Let me look it up.

Eli:

But we're we're really proud of you, Xavier. You totally deserve all those AP votes.

Kylee:

Yeah. Totally deserve it.

Colin:

I don't think yeah. They're the MEAC. Ah. They're they're Love it.

Kylee:

Yeah. Love it.

Colin:

They're not good in the Miak either. I believe let's see. They are 46.

Eli:

There you go.

Kylee:

Nice. Alright. Well, we've got that figured out.

Eli:

So so out of all of those options, what is your upset of the week?

Colin:

Yeah. I mean, you have 34 to choose from.

Kylee:

So many good ones to look at. I mean, I think it's pretty evident which one mine is. My Creighton Blue Jays taking down Kansas. I've never been happier in my entire life, honestly. I have such a visceral hatred for Kansas that creating beating them, my favorite team outside of Michigan State, was just icing on the cake, and I love it.

Kylee:

I also I'll also do an addition of, Michigan beating Wisconsin because 11 Wisconsin, mind you, because I think Michigan is a real deal team. I hate saying that, honestly, but I think they're gonna be a real

Eli:

It was impressive. Yeah.

Colin:

I think Michigan and Michigan State deserve to be ranked next week.

Kylee:

Yep. And they should be. They

Eli:

should have been ranked

Colin:

last week. I think both of them.

Eli:

Assuming they continue to handle business, but Yes. My my upsets are Penn State beating number 8 Purdue. Fire. They won to 70.

Kylee:

That's a good one. Which is

Colin:

An 11 point win, and Penn State is not good.

Eli:

Penn State's 7 and 1. Penn State's only loss is Clemson.

Colin:

Don't give me that. Not Why?

Eli:

Awesome. I don't like it.

Colin:

Why is Penn State good at basketball all of a sudden? When did

Eli:

that happen? My my other upset is when Dayton took down UConn by 18 points to seal the Huskies going 0 and 3 in Maui.

Colin:

Fire

Eli:

Because it it was the last day of the tournament. Everybody thought, surely, UConn wins this one. And

Kylee:

Wasn't that the last game of the tournament?

Eli:

And here we are.

Colin:

Yes. It didn't start until, like, 1 AM.

Kylee:

Yeah. It ended up tipping off at 1 AM.

Colin:

Did stay up for that.

Kylee:

I did stay up

Colin:

for that. And For the first half. And then with that, it was crushing them. And I was like, well, I'm not staying up any longer. It's 2 in the morning.

Colin:

And I have Thanksgiving tomorrow. Colin,

Eli:

what you got?

Colin:

Alright. I, chose to pick West Virginia. West Virginia had 2 major upsets, beating Gonzaga and then taking down Arizona.

Kylee:

Arizona's not good. Honestly, I was shocked they were ranked as high as they were. They're not good.

Colin:

Yeah. They're not. But we thought they were. And that is a big twelve game.

Kylee:

Yeah.

Colin:

You know? Obviously, it doesn't count for conference because it was in the tournament.

Kylee:

If only.

Colin:

But, Gonzaga, you know, losing to West Virginia was a big deal. 86, 78, and then a very similar game against Arizona, 83, 76. I just wonder what West Virginia can do. Yeah.

Eli:

They're

Colin:

because they really don't I don't see a ceiling yet. Mhmm. But I also don't see a floor.

Eli:

I've Yeah. I see a ceiling. They're not winning the big twelve.

Kylee:

That is their ceiling.

Colin:

Are you sure? Yes. Yes. Who is?

Eli:

Not West Virginia.

Colin:

Iowa State, probably, actually.

Eli:

Or Houston.

Colin:

Yeah.

Kylee:

Houston.

Eli:

But Yeah.

Colin:

I Houston is looking up too. They have 3 losses right now.

Kylee:

I mean, they're all the

Eli:

Top 15 teams.

Kylee:

Top yes.

Eli:

But they're

Colin:

San Diego State.

Kylee:

A right team. Right.

Eli:

Their coaching hire of Drake's head coach from last year for West Virginia was clearly a slam dunk. I do think they're going to have a good season.

Kylee:

Yeah.

Eli:

For next week, what are our games?

Colin:

Alright. I've got a Big 10 championship rematch. Wisconsin at Illinois We love

Eli:

Not at all.

Kylee:

None of the same players are there again.

Colin:

None of the same players. Yeah. Number 11, Wisconsin. Number 19, Illinois. Neither of these teams were expected to be where they are right now.

Kylee:

But they are.

Colin:

But they are.

Eli:

I mean, I thought Illinois was gonna be here.

Colin:

We Illinois was a little more expected than Wisconsin. Let's be honest.

Kylee:

Yeah. Wisconsin is just an offensive powerhouse.

Eli:

And Wisconsin's coming off getting upset at

Colin:

home. Yes.

Kylee:

So Which is fire. Yeah.

Eli:

I I think this will be a fun one. By Michigan?

Colin:

Yeah. Yeah. So it should be a very interesting game, to say the least. No one expected this one to be double ranked. That's for sure.

Kylee:

Yeah. And then I've I've my game is prior to Collins' Wisconsin Illinois matchup. I we have a Wisconsin Marquette matchup here.

Colin:

That's gonna be beautiful. That's a neutral site game

Kylee:

too, I believe. Right? Tomorrow, December 7th, well, slash when you guys are all hearing it.

Eli:

It's not neutral site. It's at Marquette.

Colin:

But Wisconsin is also you know, there's a lot of Wisconsin fans in Milwaukee too.

Kylee:

And so, honestly I'd call that pretty the result of the of this game could determine which Wisconsin team is coming into the into the Illinois game. I think this will be a pretty good game. Marquette has looked strong, has looked resilient for a little bit right now. So

Colin:

I could see Marquette bumping up with this if they beat Wisconsin, bumping up to number 2 in the country.

Kylee:

Yeah. Just because there's been so much stuff going on. Yeah. But yeah. Eli?

Eli:

Yeah. I've got, Kentucky versus Gonzaga in Seattle.

Kylee:

Nice.

Eli:

So that is a fun neutral site matchup. 2 top 10 teams. That's also the 7th. I mean, really, Gonzaga needs to prove that their loss in Atlantis was a fluke, and Kentucky just lost to Clemson. So Yeah.

Kylee:

They gotta bounce back too.

Eli:

2 teams with a lot to prove. Should be fun.

Colin:

Yeah. And looking at it, majority of these games are on December 7th because exam week is next week for a lot of schools, and so a lot of them didn't do games on exam week. Speaking of small conference games, I think all 3 of us picked December 7th games.

Kylee:

Yeah. They're all tom all Saturday.

Colin:

All Saturday.

Eli:

On December 7th.

Colin:

So, my first one, we've got battle for Rhode Island. There are 2 of them, technically. The more exciting one is Providence at undefeated University of Rhode Island. It's a home game for Rhode Island, and that's gonna be a fun one because Rhode Island used to be good and has not been good in quite a few years.

Kylee:

Thank you. I love the road.

Eli:

And and won't be good this year either.

Colin:

And Providence, I believe, only has one loss. And so, I mean, that's a an east team

Eli:

And they just pulled off the upset at home against BYU.

Colin:

They did. True. And so, you know, Providence, Rhode Island should be a great game. We're gonna see what happens there. And then Rhode Island gets a much easier game when they go to Brown.

Eli:

For the second battle of Rhode

Colin:

Island. Absolutely. Yes. On December 10th.

Kylee:

The second.

Colin:

Much much easier game for Rhode Island in that second one.

Kylee:

Yeah. I have Kylie, what you got? For me, I have Middle Tennessee who's sitting at 7 and 7 and 2 against Belmont who's also sitting at 7 and 2. So fun little matchup there. I like nice little Nashville, metro area.

Eli:

NBC versus Conference USA. Should be fun. I've got, Wazu at Boise State because Washington State is kind of on a roll, but but Boise State is also really, really good. Yes. So I think that'll be a fun one.

Eli:

And based off of that, I think we'll know if Wazee is gonna make any noise in the West Coast Conference this year. And then I've got Rice at Texas State. Both of those teams also only have a couple of losses. I think Texas State could be pretty good in the Sun Belt. I don't think Rice will be great in the American, but they've been decent and non conference so far.

Colin:

So Yeah. They're 7 and 2. I mean, looking at it, you got 7 and 1 Memphis, 7 and 1 Wichita State, and then 7 and 2 Rice.

Eli:

I I think Memphis's non conference schedule might look a little different than Rice's.

Colin:

Oh, absolutely. Same with Wichita State for that matter. Wichita State's only losses Slightly slightly different. Yeah. Wichita State's only losses to number 13 ranked Florida.

Colin:

So so

Eli:

But I I think that'll be a fun one in San Marcos.

Kylee:

The differences between Rice and Memphis are minuscule.

Colin:

Yeah. Who's the literally, the same the

Eli:

same basketball team.

Colin:

Who's the best team that Rice has played? Hold on. I'm looking. I think Northwest State.

Kylee:

Nice.

Colin:

Yes. But no. Oh, no. They lost to Florida State.

Eli:

Yeah. There you go.

Kylee:

Yeah. They're also not good either. Florida State's rough too.

Eli:

Their best win is probably Arkansas State or Iona.

Colin:

Yeah. Okay. Period. Iona's not a bad one. That's pretty solid.

Eli:

And Arkansas State is Sunbelt favorites.

Colin:

Yeah. Alright. So Roy says James.

Eli:

Well, should be fun.

Kylee:

We are at the end, and I think it is time to call it a quits for the day.

Colin:

We, as a team, have just talked about our

Eli:

2 episode day

Colin:

for the last 90 minutes.

Eli:

Hope you enjoyed.

Kylee:

Yes. Well, thank you all for listening to the second half of this week's episode of Check the Net on Impact 89 f m. Let us know what you think by connecting with the station on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram at wdbm and at impact 89 f m. This is our 2nd bat full basketball season, and we are very excited. This season's madness is only just beginning and we can't wait to talk about it more next week on Check the Net.

Kylee:

Bye