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The fun & fascinating stories of Supply Chain & Logistics.
Bryndis Whitson: [00:00:02] Hi, my name is Bryndis Whitson and you're listening to the Zebras to Apples podcast, the fun and fascinating stories of supply chain logistics. Today's episode is going to be all about what I've learned so far. I can't believe we're already at episode 30, and it's been a year since I launched this podcast. I wanted to really reflect on some learnings, some amazing stories, and everything in between. I launched this podcast to share and showcase fun stories about supply chain logistics, and I've been so grateful for the support of friends and family and random people that have been listening to this podcast. I really greatly appreciate it.
[00:00:55] When I started out at episode one, I actually did the interview in May of 2024, and I didn't launch the podcast until January of 2025, but I knew exactly who I wanted to interview first, and that was my friend George Read, who's been in the supply chain industry for over 25 years. What's really funny is neither of us connected that we were both in supply chain at the same moment. So it took a while and then I was like, 'Oh my goodness, you've been doing supply chain all this time'. And we talked about supply chain after we've been friends for so long. And so I interviewed George because when I wanted to talk about procurement when I was teaching, I thought, let's go with the expert, let's go with someone who's been doing procurement for so many years. And so I asked George, and George was lucky enough to agree, or I was lucky enough that George agreed. And he spoke to every single cohort, but he did probably at least 15 to 18 presentations over that span. And every time I never once got bored, even though I'd heard the topic over and over and over again. And then there were the stories that I was always like, 'Okay, make sure you mention this one, make sure you mention that one', etc. and he mentioned most of my favorite stories in that first episode. And it really helped me with my nerves, which you can sometimes see throughout the thing, which I'll get into in a few minutes of learning. But I really knew that that was the person that I wanted to cap this all off, because he has such a fun attitude about everything. And man, do I appreciate George.
[00:03:16] That summer I was at an event during the stampede and I ran into Steve Armstrong, and I knew immediately, way before I started thinking about the podcast, that I wanted Steve to talk. And I also had Steve talk to my students, and we met because I hosted a conference called Ready at a Moment's Notice, looking at the logistics of the military and emergency preparedness and basically saying, when an emergency occurs, are we prepared and what are the logistics behind it? Because if the earthquake eventually happened in Vancouver, how do we get the goods out? And then when there was the fire in Slave Lake, what did we learn from that, etc.? And so I interviewed Steve, and it was also one of those ones where I interviewed him in September and didn't launch until January, but I had it ready to go. And because it had been between May and September, I had to relearn all the little pieces about recording, but Steve had such a breadth of knowledge. He's so fun to work with. And so it was a great chance to really showcase his story and how that kind of military prepares you for other worlds, but really also when the emergency occurs, what do we do? How do we restart a hospital when we've shut it down? etc, because he's got such a breadth.
[00:05:08] In episode three, I chatted with my friend Trish Slivinski. I had met Trish through the Van Horne Institute. She'd come to a number of our Women in Supply Chain events, and a few other events. And when she found herself in a career transition at one point, we hosted an inland port conference in Winnipeg, and Trish just called me up and said, 'I want to volunteer. What can I do to help?', and Trish flew out to Winnipeg and stayed with a friend or a family member and volunteered the entire few days. And I personally, to this day, will always be grateful for that because it meant that I didn't have to do quite everything. I could ask Trish to help with registration, I could, etc. but the thing with Trish is she's got 30 years of railway experience and she's so passionate about those areas, but then she's also really passionate about hockey. And I've always wanted to figure out a way to showcase the idea of hockey and stories that way. How do we move logistics for sporting events? And she was involved in that. So we got to spice a little bit of that area in the midst of it too.
[00:06:39] When I first launched the episodes, I had four, and my fourth episode was tales from the airline with Peter Wallis, and Peter was my boss at the Van Horne Institute. And then he has become a really good friend and mentor, and we always have great conversations whenever we get together. And so some of the stories that he talked about I had heard before, but I'd forgotten. And it was so fascinating- it was the stories, like I had people when I first launched replying to me going, 'And then they tried to sell the Hercules airplane to an arms dealer?'. And if you haven't listened to this episode, you've got to listen to it. It is funny. It is so interesting of the stories that came out from that moment, but also, if you like history, it's also a story of how Canadian airlines became Canadian Airlines, from someone who was in the industry in the company at the time in a leadership role. And it was just such a great chat about all of those things. And that was the first launch of the first four episodes.
[00:08:04] And then on episode five, I interviewed Arenso Bakker, and Arenso and I met when we hosted a Canada-Netherlands roundtable. And at the event the person who sat next to me was Arenso. And we have been friends ever since, and we've had him out. We had him out to other conferences. We took him to Calgary, to Vancouver, to Winnipeg. And then when my husband and I went to France for the Olympics, we went to Normandy for a few days right before. And Arenso came and his lovely wife came and we had a wonderful dinner and really caught up and really continued our friendship. And so I immediately knew that I was going to brave the idea of zoom and interview Arenso and really tell the story of what logistics is like in other parts of the world, because supply chain is similar and we have lots of learnings that we can learn from different areas, but because of our geography about countries, etc., we could talk about different things. Also, he'd worked in the Panama Canal, and I'd done this interview in December and we all knew around the globe what happened in January and the conversations that came up about the Panama Canal, and I launched the podcast at the end of January. In this episode, it came out in the beginning of February and mentioned the Panama Canal. And I thought, hmm, well, that's an interesting timing of those two different things. And it's a really great episode. And one of my friends who I was talking to about it said the part that she learned a lot about was about the fact that because of geography, they have less space. And how do you maximize space? My neat learning that I took from that episode was, 'oh, why don't we actually utilize the tops of buildings for warehousing space? Because we've got a lot of warehousing space. Can we make green roofs?' In the Netherlands example, the idea was, well, can we create soccer fields or something like that? And so how can we repurpose the tops of all of these warehousing? So that was an interesting piece for me.
[00:10:44] Episode six with Siobhan Chinnery was so fun. It was off site at her house, and it was also kind of neat because there were stories that came out of that that I wasn't expecting. And it's one of the stories that I talk about so much just to get people hopefully interested in the podcast. And it was the story about the secret Porsches, and I won't spoil that, but go listen to episode six and hear all about the secret Porsches. But what I loved about Siobhan is she reached out to me and said, 'what can I do to help?', and I will ever be grateful for that. And really, it was such a good chat about so many different aspects of supply chain that we talked about and it was just so much fun. So many learnings came from that.
[00:11:43] Episode seven, when I chatted with Alison Mercer, who was also on site at the Military Museums. And we're talking about oopses and stuff like that. That one in the middle of the interview and the battery died on my interview thing. It was the first time I was really off site for an interview, but Alison really was able to showcase these different aspects of things that you don't think are supply chain. And, you know, she's in the museum curation industry, but there's a lot of logistics involved. And that's really been the way to showcase these kinds of areas. And it's been a really neat kind of opportunity to tell different stories, too. And so when it comes to looking at who else can I talk to and who else has amazing stories, knowledge, etc.
[00:12:43] So I interviewed Greg Principato for episode eight, and Greg lives in the United States and has such a breadth of knowledge about airports, aviation, and he's currently the president of the Federation Aeronautique Internationale. But we talked about everything from airport wayfinding to skydiving at other airports, and drones. And the other thing that was interesting about timing is if you look back to what happened, there were a few plane crashes in early 2025. And I actually spoke to Greg within a week of one of those first airplane crashes. And we tried not to talk about it, but it did come up in conversation pieces. And I'm extremely grateful to Greg for taking the time to sit down and chat with me, especially when we met through the Van Horne. We've never met in person, ever, but we've had really great conversations and emails back and forth for the last ten years, and we've stayed in touch through social media, through all these other aspects. And I greatly appreciated all of those kinds of topics, stories, etc..
[00:14:09] Episode nine. When we talked to Dave Kalinchuk and we talked all about stuff that was happening in the Calgary area and about economic development, that was one of the things that I'd really started to bring in and really realize. I mean, I always knew it myself, but the amount of times that the importance of economic development has come up in these interviews. It came up in the interview with Greg Principato, and came up in a whole bunch of other episodes. It was really kind of solidifying to me in ways that I knew but didn't really, truly appreciate, was how much economic development and supply chain are linked together and how important these kinds of pieces are. So when I went through, we had a great chat and we've been always chatting, but it was a really great chance to really reconnect and become even better friends than we had been before. And there were so many different pieces that we chatted with, and that I really appreciated from Dave.
[00:15:29] When I got to episode ten, I had run into my own logistical issues for a few different things because I lost my recording device, one microphone and one headphone, and I misplaced them. I personally didn't misplace them, but we had taken them to an event that we were hosting and we thought we put it back into the van. I'm sure you've all experienced this moment. And so we searched and we searched and we searched and I thought I was losing my mind. And then I said, okay, I'm going to ask one more time to the community association. Maybe, just maybe, they have it. We've already checked, but hopefully they can check one more time. And they did find it. They never found the headphones and I lost a mic stand, but I did, found the zoom recorder and I found the microphone. But at least I had that. But for over two months, I lost all of that. And I thought, oh my goodness. And so that was some of the logistical issues that came up and around during this entire year.
Bryndis Whitson: [00:16:52] So my interview for episode ten, I'm upstairs and my husband's in the basement and he's interviewing me. So it was actually my first time being the interviewee as opposed to the interviewer. In those kinds of moments, it was good to see it from the other perspective. So we did the interview on zoom, as opposed to face to face in front of each other because I lost all the equipment. But it was talking about my transportation geekiness and why I personally love supply chain, which hopefully comes across all the time, but that's kind of where we started and issues that kind of came up along this journey of the year.
[00:17:38] And so when I interviewed Raj about supply chain dynamics and resilience, we talked about a whole bunch of different areas, especially things that were happening within April and May of 2025 and what were things that were coming up. And it was like our second or third chat about tariffs and trade and all of the different things that were happening that year. It's still or at least as of today on the recording, the most listened to episode.
[00:18:17] I was having a conversation with friends over dinner and my friend Mike was talking about his time when he was a roadie. And I thought this would be a great opportunity to really showcase the behind the scenes stuff of music venues and concerts and stuff like that that you don't see, because behind every musician is an entire team that makes sure that the musician sounds good, that all of their stuff goes from Red Deer to Calgary to Vancouver to, you know, everywhere in between. But it's someone behind there. And so Mike had actually been a roadie for a few different bands, including Nickelback and a few other ones. And so he was telling those stories. And then it turns out he also worked in warehousing. But before a lot of the recent changes and safety and understanding of when the truck is arriving and being able to talk to the truck. And so he's got the story about how he just slept in the warehouse because he didn't know when the truck was arriving and the truck could arrive at 8:00 in the morning, arrive at 8:00 in the night. And I think it arrived at 8:00 the next day. So they had to basically sleep in the warehouse all night. It's a great story.
[00:19:49] And so just really showcasing those kinds of areas to when I started this podcast, one of the first things I thought was I have to interview Halldor. Halldor is one of my Icelandic cousins who emigrated to Edmonton and before that, Oakville, Ontario, and they live in Edmonton and they started a company a number of years ago called Salty's, where they import fish into Canada. I've told the story and about how it's alive in the ocean on Sunday or on Monday or on Tuesday. It gets caught on Tuesday. Wednesday it gets packaged. Thursday gets put on the plane. And you can have it for dinner on Thursday. Friday. It's alive. Many of them were alive on Sunday. You can have it for dinner on the weekend. And it's fresh and it's never been frozen and really telling the story of how does that happen? And what was neat in this interview is as I was chatting with Halldor, he was like, 'oh, I just realized that 80% of my job is all logistics. I'm like, yes, yes it is. And that's why I really wanted to showcase this story.
[00:21:14] And when I got to episode 14, I had to chat with Brian Lewis, who I know from the Air Force Association, and he's got great stories about how he's got experience in construction, and he owned a trucking company when he was really young, and his dad owned a car dealership, and he was in Air Cadets. And so who knew where this interview was going? And this interview, because it could have gone multiple different ways. But we had a really great conversation about how you fly gliders and what the passion that he learned from air cadets. And so it created a good kind of opportunity to talk about ways that you can learn about supply chain when you're younger, ways that you can learn about aviation when you're younger. And those were really great kinds of pieces too.
[00:22:10] So episode 15, when I finally refound my microphone, headset, etc., or purchased a new headset, I was like, yes, I finally have someone to talk to about grocery stores and all of those aspects, because what I'm always trying to showcase is really when you go to a grocery store and what are those everyday items and those pieces that are so apart of everything in your life. And the learnings for me that I see still when I go into a grocery store that came from that episode, and for other people too, that have talked to me about that episode, they learned so many things about stocking and shopping and the fact that each each grocery store is categorized in a scaling system. So you might be shopping at a B store, but if you shop at an A store, there's more items. And part of the reason is because this is a B store and your other one is an A store, and everything is categorized in those areas. Also, as you walk by a bin that has a whole bunch of things versus a perfectly created display, more people buy out of the bin than they will out of the perfectly created display. And that's because they don't want to destroy the display. Whereas if I take it from the bin, it's all piled up here. No one's going to notice. And just these little intricacies that happen in our grocery stores that we don't even see, even though we go to our grocery stores every day too. And so it was a really, really neat opportunity to.
[00:24:05] And then I interviewed my friend Norman, who we've known for years. And part of the reason I brought in Norman was because of the story of how you get hired in this industry. What are employers looking for? What are employers looking for in this part of the role of logistics versus that role in supply chain? What are the things? And it really has it was a really good connection between the interview with Ron and then the interview with Norman, because they both talk about stocking and about how in stocking you have to have really good attention to detail, but you also have to follow directions so that you follow exactly the way that it's supposed to be put out in the right way for the company. And so it was a good piece where the two of them, without realizing it, were completely connected. And then talking about what other pieces that employers are looking for.
Bryndis Whitson: [00:25:11] And when I would talk to my clients and stuff like that, I would normally bring in Norman at some point. He could talk about the HR behind what people are looking for. What are people looking at your resume and just giving that HR perspective that sometimes we don't think about when we're in this area, too.
[00:25:37] So when we got to episode 17, it was an interesting moment of my own logistics and timing, because I was about to go on a trip and I had a deadline, and it was during Stampede and a whole bunch of other things. And so people were busy everywhere, and I had a few different interviews scheduled and everyone had to reschedule. And so everything got canceled. And there I am going, 'hmm, what am I going to do for an episode?'. And so I put together I thought I was going in one direction. And then it turned out I was just telling the story of how we drove across the country. And if you ever want to feel self-conscious, do an episode like the one I'm doing right now, or the episode 17 where it's all just you talking, and so you learn intricacies about yourself as you listen to yourself. Because every time I record an episode, I'm hearing myself in my head. But then I'm also having to relisten to myself to make sure that it gets edited correctly, or if there's anything that needs to be changed, etc.. And so that's kind of an interesting moment, but it really was a chance to really showcase Canada logistics. And I loved the last title that my amazing editing team has done, where this episode is a love letter to the Canadian transportation system filled with practical knowledge and a dose of geeky fun. And I think that would be a way to kind of sometimes describe myself in a way. One of those years where more people were traveling within their own country, etc. it was a really great opportunity and it was a quick adaptation, because what I've learned in this experience is it's all about quickly adapting, and it's also been an interesting chance for you to learn a lot about yourself. And so if you can imagine taping one of these things, you've got headphones on and you're trying to make sure that the other person's audio is great and that your audio is also good and that there's no echo effects, because I've had echoes that I haven't because mics are too close. I've had episodes where I finished the recording, I'm playing it back, and I start panicking because my interviewee sounds great. I don't because I was so focused on their audio, because I'd mixed up another audio. And so my audio was so quiet so my husband listened to it. And he's like, 'are you even? Is your mic even on when you were playing this?', and luckily we were able to fix it. But it's these things that we learn as we're going along. What words do we repeat a lot? I've got an episode or two where I'm like, right, another one. We're like, exactly. And so you really learn to like, how do we change up? How do we adapt our wording? How do we adapt our phrasing? How do we adapt all these things in those processes?
[00:28:52] So when I did episode 18 with Leor Rotchild, it was another one that I'd been thinking about for a really long time and just trying to tee up the right time to chat with Leor, because the thing that was really neat about that is talking about that sustainability piece and talking about the environment, but how do we not only learn about supply chain, but also ensure that we're looking at for the future and linking that all together. He's also looked at event planning. And that's a whole huge story of logistics, which I can always expand more into at some point. But also looking at events like the Calgary Stampede and that one really clicked with me when he was talking about the Calgary Stampede. And it's the little behind the scenes kind of moments that we don't think of because we're out at an event or a big event like the CNE, The Peony, the Calgary Stampede or K-days, whatever. And so you don't think of all the stuff happening behind. I do because that's just my brain. It was the behind the scenes moment of having the sustainability piece that Leor had set up with the Stampede was so crucial to the vendors, because they didn't have to worry about moving certain items because they just happened within this program. And so it was an interesting talk that way.
[00:30:41] My interview with Tim Creedon was really neat, because I actually did it in Halifax at the library there, and I learned a lot about different rooms and the audio difference between being in a professional room versus your living room and those pieces that we don't think of until we're in that situation. Then we're like, oh, maybe there is a different sound and stuff like that. It was quiet. You couldn't even tell when my husband came back into the room, as opposed to when you do an interview in your house, you hear occasionally a cat meowing, and there's a few other times where these amazing editors have actually been able to completely remove the cat meow because it was just loud and overpowering. Or the cat runs through, or your husband opens the door, or you're trying to make sure that there's no laundry going on. But when I interviewed Tim, it was on location at the library, and so it was a completely different experience. And what was really neat is sometimes, you know, someone's story and sometimes, you know, a little window into the story. But the amount of conversation that Tim had to say about retail logistics and operational efficiency in stores in the United Kingdom and how they translate it into Canada, and how he was able to take experience from England to Canada. And it was this wide opening realization of stories. And it was also an interesting window into me that I was able to learn different things from that interview and how to refocus them for future episodes, too. So it was a really neat opportunity there.
[00:32:30] Then I did that interview in July in Halifax, and then the next weekend we flew all the way across Canada to go from one wedding to another wedding on the other coast, and I was able to interview Barry Davidson in Vancouver Island all about security transportation. And Barry was another one where I immediately knew when I started this podcast that I wanted to interview Barry. And so when it finally happened, I was so excited because it actually happened and we were in person together, which is almost as much as you can do. It's even better. My mother in law was able to set everything up so that we were actually able to interview him in their kitchen, but they were really great because we were able to talk about the marijuana industry and what were the logistics involved with bringing in suddenly a new commodity into the marketplace that's highly valuable. And what do you do in those kinds of stories? But then also what happens when a dignitary comes to town, and how do you make sure that the Dalai Lama safely navigates Calgary traffic safely and all of these different kind of moments in between, or someone just randomly going by that could derail the entire situation, even though he had no idea of what was happening. And so it was a great chance to tell those stories, too.
[00:34:12] And when I interviewed Bridget that was also an opportunity to really showcase those different areas of supply chain logistics that you don't think about. And so when Bridget started an entire company of curries and sauces and baking and all of these aspects, when you're creating a new business, you have to source out all this material. So where do you get your spices and how do you make sure that they're sustainable? If we look back at episode 18, how do we look at that kind of piece of where everything is coming from and how it impacts your business if you can't get the right areas to. And it was neat too, because you meet people in all these different aspects, and there's so many great stories that every person has. And so Bridgette and I met at a dinner party that our mutual friend hosts, and we just sat down beside each other at 2 or 3 different dinner parties. And I was like, 'I need to interview you for my podcast'. And we finally were able to make it work after about six months, and it finally worked. And it was just this great opportunity to do so.
[00:35:31] And when I got to episode 22, I thought I learned something about interviewing as you go, because I learned that I got too much in my head when I have the person right in front of me when I'm trying to do the introduction. So I don't even try it because I've learned that my nerves get the best of me, and I can't do that interview in front of that. I can't do that piece in front of that person. And so I just don't. I've improved a lot. So for episode one, two, three and four, I was so in my head that the intro pieces took over two hours to record. One minute each. It took me over two hours to record them, and I've got an entire thing of probably 50 or more stops and starts where I was so in my head that I just couldn't do it at different moments to get it perfect.
Bryndis Whitson: [00:36:32] And so it's these pieces that you learn about yourself as you go. But it only takes me one try, sometimes maybe three to do those intro pieces now. But at that point I didn't. What I also realized is, as I was starting to interview people, the question that I would start to ask not so much at the beginning, and there's a few other episodes where I didn't, but I started asking people if you were giving advice to someone starting their career or starting a new industry, what advice would you give them and why? And in all of the different episodes, they're similar pieces, but everyone is just a little bit different. And it was really a good chance to bring back all of those different pieces of advice that people have given and really showcase them in different ways too. It gave me a chance to really showcase a lot of the first people that I interviewed and their different stories, and bring those kinds of pieces in, of where your pieces of advice would really be if you were entering into that industry.
[00:37:47] When I interviewed Jonathan Moser, another one where I knew right from the beginning that I wanted to interview Jonathan, and we finally made it work. And it was good because it gave me a chance to finally talk. And I live in Calgary, Alberta, and oil and gas and industry are very important pieces, and it really gave me a chance to talk to someone who had worked on the cement, concrete, polymer side, and how do you move those different pieces, but also those impacts. And there were pieces that I never thought of, but the amount of polymer plastics that impact our daily lives and the concrete that's in our buildings, on our sidewalks, on our driveways, and all of those pieces that all have a supply chain behind them. And Jonathan, in his work, has been able to impact so much of our daily lives that we don't think about. And that is the piece about supply chain logistics, is that understanding of everything in between. In behind there. That is perfect too. And it really gave a chance to really showcase those everyday items that we don't think of. Similar to the interview that I did with Ron at the grocery store. Like those pieces of bringing those things in too. I really appreciated that.
[00:39:24] Another one that I knew that I would eventually chat with was Adela Parilla, talking about negotiation, because negotiation is a part of our everyday lives, even though we don't realize it sometimes. And but some of us get our head about, oh, well, I can't negotiate. And how do you make it? But also with this conversation with Adela, how do you make everything, demystifying it and making it win win solutions, not win lose solutions. And how do we work those pieces out too? And so it was a really great chance to talk about that too.
[00:40:11] When I talked with Cindy Clark about women's supply chain, it really flowed like a conversation between Cindy and I where we talked about everything under the sun. And there's multiple ways we could have gone. And we talked about AI. We talked about her Sterling Western Star trucks. We talked about farming. We talked about so many different aspects, which was that piece that I almost at one point was like, I want to make the title for this thing everything is supply chain. And we finally had an episode where the title was Everything is Supply Chain. And because it truly is like everything has a supply chain behind it and those pieces.
[00:40:58] When I chatted with Jen about the logistics of project management. Jen is also one of those ones, similar to Bridgette, where you meet people and suddenly they become part of your lives and you're like, I can't even remember when they weren't. Jen and I met earlier this year, earlier in 2025, when we had coffee and started talking about a few different areas, and suddenly she was volunteering and we spent a lot of time together, over 2025, in different aspects. That project management piece is so critical in supply chain logistics. And Jen gave me a great opportunity to really talk about those kind of things. And also, we got to talk about those other pieces that I love, that of, you know, Personality and Myers-Briggs and all of those different aspects. And so we were able to bring those pieces into the conversation, which was unexpected and also a lot of fun, too.
[00:42:08] So similar to Jen, when I interviewed Anna Murphy, it really gave me an opportunity to talk about those areas of supply chain and logistics that you never would have expected, similar to the interview I did with Alison Mercer. But when you run a political campaign, it's all logistics. And when you're in an office and you're managing a schedule and you're managing all of those different pieces, or suddenly a press conference comes up, you have to quickly organize it, and then you've got to do something over here, and then you've got to make sure that this person's going over there. It's all logistics. And so give me a chance to really showcase the political and the supply chain and logistics area, and how they really are kind of intertwined in ways that you wouldn't expect. And it really gave a chance to showcase that, too. So great.
[00:43:11] Then with my interview with Lorne Fleming, it really was so neat to be able to chat with Lorne on his 91st birthday. And I know him through the Air Force Association, and we're just driving to an event or meeting, and he starts talking about the bus barns, and he talks about this, and he talks about that, and it's this understanding and realization of all of the knowledge that we all have of our lives that we don't have a chance to sometimes talk about. But there was Lorne, who had worked at Calgary Transit for 30 years and actually done all the training for the LRT at the beginning, for busses, for trolleys, etc. and it really was neat to be able to talk to someone who had that previous understanding and knowledge and bringing it into this new context and really getting his story and showcasing that area too, was really, really important and a really great way to talk about those, the behind the scenes of our different areas too, and how do we make sure that we're safely understanding the roads and also not forgetting our history and bringing that into present day.
[00:44:39] My interview with Christina Monroe was also one of those ones where immediately I was like, I have to interview you. We have to chat, because I really want to make sure that we're showcasing that area behind when you live in rural and remote and northern communities, things get delivered differently. You have different things to think about. How does all of that come together? And so it was a really great chance to chat with Christina about those moments, too. And it was great because I finally got to have this conversation, and it'd been in the works for almost six months. We finally got to make it work, too.
[00:45:27] So after 30 episodes, I've learned a lot about myself, about my style, about words that I use that I didn't think I used, about how to adapt to technology issues when suddenly things disappear for a while, how to utilize different technologies, move things around, and also how to rely on team on people and your support network. And so this entire experience wouldn't have been possible if it wasn't for my husband, Scott, for example, the amount of support and guidance and pep talks etc. that he has given me over this last year has been incredible. I've also worked with an amazing production and editing team at Astronomic Audio. And the amount of times that Alex or Been have to be like, okay, so when's your deadline? Are you coming here? The amount that the editing team has been able to take out some of my ums, my ahs, upgrade my audio when I don't focus on my own audio, or upgrade the audio of my guest when it doesn't quite work. Changing a few things up has been extremely valuable to my friends, and that kind of gave me advice or ideas or 'oh my goodness, I just listened to this episode and that was so great'. And those moments of conversation would always come in at a moment when I really, really, really needed to hear it. And so I personally really thank my friend Sarah and my friend Owen in Illinois and these other moments where people would just kind of say, 'oh, I heard that it was really great and it was really helpful'. I've also learned a lot about podcasting in general. I've gone to conferences, I've gone to different workshops. I've got all of these other pieces of conversations and knowledge and learnings that I've put together, and I really have appreciated that or random conversations that I've had where I was like, I really need to look into starting to market this, which I'm still in the process of but I say that and then I'm having just a conversation, a beer with friends during Stampede, and someone joins our table. And what does he do? He actually has his own podcast and does promotion for other podcasts. And so it was a great chance. And so now I've got a connection with someone in Winnipeg and these other moments. And when I look back at this last year, I really appreciate every person that has come into my life or has been a part of my life that has been giving me pep talks all the way along. And I wouldn't have been able to do this without you. 30 episodes in one year. I can't believe we did it. And I am so grateful for every person around the world that is listening in. Whether you're from Spain, whether you're from Canada, the United States, India, Mexico, wherever you are in the world. I am so grateful that you've taken the time to listen to Zebras to Apples. And this concludes season one. So what is next for Zebras to Apples? I've got a few really great ideas that I'm looking at doing for the next season, and I'd really love your ideas. If you have any thoughts or people that I should interview, you can reach out to me at bryndis@zebrastoapples.com, and Bryndis is spelled B, r, y, n, d, i, s. And I am so grateful to have been able to interview people all around the world, Netherlands, the United States, Canada, etc. and I've got so many fun things that are coming up and I can't wait to see where we go for the next 30 episodes. Thank you to my team. Thank you to my friends, my family. And thank you to you, the listeners of Zebras to Apples. Have a wonderful day.
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