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Join MaryRuth and special guests as they dive deep into the world of health, wellness, and purposeful living. Each episode is a fresh, inspiring conversation with thought leaders, health experts, and everyday changemakers who share practical tips and empowering stories to help you take meaningful steps toward your best self. Whether you're seeking motivation, holistic guidance, or just a little joy in your wellness journey—this podcast is here to help you move forward every day.
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Unknown
When you are speaking about birth. I'm also just thinking about life. Thinking about all the different pain suffering there so hand in hand. It's crazy. I'm like very emotional. The way people do life is the way they do birth, and that a lot of the coaching I do to prep them for birth is I spend Phabby and I both.
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Unknown
We spend so much time getting to know our people and understanding how they do life, because it's the way they're going to show up in birth and and motherhood. And I am like, now I've taken it a step further with my birth prepper. I'm like, where can we soften some of the edges? Yeah, I love that. So that and I do that through my coaching part so that you're not you're not like slammed up against it in birth.
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Unknown
You don't get the lesson in birth or motherhood. It's like where can we start during pregnancy to kind of like look at maybe if you're a control freak, we can start playing around with this now so you can flow a little bit easier during birth or pregnancy. The Move Forward Every Day podcast. We all get 24 hours in a day to have freedom to experience joy.
00:01:01:06 - 00:01:33:02
Unknown
What is important to you? Who are you and what makes you happy? Hi everyone! I'm MaryRuth, the founder and CEO of MaryRuth Organics and this is the Move Forward Everyday podcast. Today, the end of the year, I have chosen two very, very special and powerful guests and I am over the moon excited to let everyone know that it is Lori who has been my doula for all four of my births.
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Unknown
For Ethan, who is eight, for Elliot, who is seven for the twins during Covid, Jacob and Grace Lori was there every step of the way. I am so thrilled to talk about morning and nighttime routines and what she has learned from being an author, a life coach, and in one of LA's most incredible, loving doulas for many, many years.
00:01:58:06 - 00:02:22:15
Unknown
And we also have. This is so exciting. We have our very first doctor on the podcast, Doctor Phabby, who is an incredible holistic Ob-Gyn. And what's very special about this is that Lori and Doctor Fabi have an incredible friendship and incredible working relationship. So it's also very nice to have the synergy here of them sharing a lot of what they've learned in their careers.
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Unknown
I want to introduce each of them, and then we will get into their morning and nighttime routines. So first, Lori because I've known you the longest. We would love to hear from you. Anything you want to share about your life being a support system to all these incredible women who have birthed so many beautiful babies. So welcome to the podcast.
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Unknown
Thanks, MaryRuth, I love you. I'm so happy to be here. Well, I mean, it was such an honor, like supporting you through all those for your pregnancies and births. And you, you're, like, such a powerhouse. And just to watch, you know, not only you birth your babies, but this company and and everything. It's just amazing. The life.
00:03:03:23 - 00:03:20:13
Unknown
What do I want to share? What? I you what do you want to say? Well, I think just how long you've been a doula. I think you told me you've been a part of over a thousand births. Anything you want to say on that? Yeah. So I've been a doula for over 26 years. I've done over, like, 1600 births.
00:03:20:15 - 00:03:37:04
Unknown
My philosophy is there's no right way to do it, but there's a right way for you. And, I'm very, very big on education. I think so many people spend so much money and time and energy on their wedding, and that when it comes to birth, like the birth of their child, they're just put it in the doctor's hands.
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Unknown
And they don't always have a Dr. Phabby. So yeah. Which, by the way, like, you know, even Phabby will put it in your hands and like, you know, that's so beautiful. She really holds space for you and your your birth intentions. Which I love about her. And so birth really matters. The birth of the mother really matters.
00:03:55:20 - 00:04:16:00
Unknown
The birth will stay with you for the rest of your life and imprint your child. How these babies are born, how these mothers are born, how these families are born really matter. And then the way that they're heard, treated and respected all through their pregnancy plays into the way that they and then the birth, how they mother and how they parent their child and the confidence.
00:04:16:02 - 00:04:37:18
Unknown
So, you know, I like to not just do the birth. I like to support throughout the whole journey. Yes. You always check on me afterwards. Yeah. Many months. Yeah. After each of my children. Not as good with post pardum as I am with pregnancy, but I do. I do love, the pregnancy and birth. And then you have me for life once you once you've gone through that and I'll always be there for you.
00:04:37:18 - 00:04:59:20
Unknown
Yeah. I also think and wanted to highlight something so beautiful that you just said that I have never really thought about before. You just said that also, you're supporting the moms becoming moms. They're also birthing into becoming a mom, especially if it's their first child, obviously. Can you before we hear from Doctor Phabby can you just define for us what a doula is?
00:04:59:20 - 00:05:28:10
Unknown
Because that, my VP of Brand at MaryRuth Organics, so sweet, wrote me on Slack. What is a doula? Yeah. So doulas are a non-medical support system. Like, person who, we support the mind, the body, the spirit. We hold space for emotional, mental, physical, spiritual, all the things. And we're a great counterpart to a doctor or even a midwife.
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Unknown
We educate and, do you know, massage and comfort? We hold space. There's we advocate, we do all different things. And we work with doctors and midwives and everything. We usually show up the birth way before they do. True. Definitely. Yeah. Well, unless you have, you know. Yeah. Fast birth or like again Dr. Phabby.
00:05:51:19 - 00:06:13:08
Unknown
Yeah. Who does not walk in when the eyebrows of the baby are coming out. True passion. The passion. Yes. So yeah we do I mean, we just I mean, I can't tell you how much I hold space for, like, people's emotions, for their mindset, for their physical body. All the things, and we all work differently.
00:06:13:08 - 00:06:34:12
Unknown
All of us doulas work differently. I mentor doulas and train them. And I have a doula program called Adoula Your Way, which is all about like finding your own unique special sauce and, and, you know, sharing it with the world. Because I don't think there's a, you know, what, a one way to do anything. And there's a doula out there for everybody, a right doula.
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Unknown
Yeah. And also I wanted to just put it here on the podcast. I won't go into it too much, but my first birth was I mean, it was essential beyond, that you were there first time I felt like I couldn't do it in the middle of the birth. And the second time was incredible. My second birth was my biggest baby.
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Unknown
Ellia was 9 pounds, three ounces, and he was out in like four hours and that was amazing. And then my hardest birth was was pushing out both the twins during Covid and and I mean, that was so difficult. And that was a long, long, long, long birth. And I needed you the most during the Covid in the hospital and my water breaking.
00:07:23:02 - 00:07:47:08
Unknown
And like, I mean, that one, I felt like, like MaryRuth Organics has ESG program. And I was just thinking like, I never thought about it before, but I feel like we should do something also for mothers, like who are giving birth and getting support because I really needed you. And it was I, I remember when you left the hospital, you said something so beautiful to me.
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Unknown
You just said, like you said, like I've seen over a thousand births. And, just remember, like you can always do anything. Like, it was so special. It was a Friday night, so thank you. And it's like I remember that birth like it was yesterday. Oh, my goodness gracious. And what's amazing about having Doctor Phabby and Lori here is that they I met Doctor Phabby.
00:08:13:12 - 00:08:39:00
Unknown
Very special. I threw my friend a baby shower in my backyard this summer. It was like 95 degrees that day. Yeah. Oh my goodness, there was no shade. We were all sweating and that I really felt like there's many reasons I threw the baby shower, but it was so healing for me. And I want people to hear this.
00:08:39:02 - 00:09:04:12
Unknown
You never know why we're asked to do things or collaborate in ways. And, a lot of people know I was going through like a two year divorce. And then at the end of summer, right before my children's school started, I had the baby shower in my backyard, and I got to meet Doctor Phabby, and I got to meet Lori, and it really opened up a place in my heart where I said, oh, like I, you know, maybe someday I'm going to have another baby.
00:09:04:14 - 00:09:36:03
Unknown
So it was very therapeutic for me after like my two year divorce and, and journey. And I love kids so much to meet you. Wow. Like that day? I don't really remember. Obviously. I was so happy for my friends and her husband who are having their first baby. But for my soul's journey, my experience, it became very obvious to me that okay, I was asked to host the shower and I actually was asked to host the shower in a wild way, like everyone was in Europe and I was home with my kids.
00:09:36:05 - 00:10:03:14
Unknown
And then someone in Europe said, you should ask MaryRuth, to host your shower. So it was like also kind of. And then you came and I thought that was so amazing. And I think we sat near each other during the the blessings. Yes. Anyways, it really affected me and it made me more open to like I just felt all your love and nurturing energy and also I again, we don't know each other so well, but I felt this energy of how you allow life to unfold.
00:10:03:14 - 00:10:36:04
Unknown
You're not controlling it. Very powerful. So welcome to the podcast Doctor Phabby who again is a medical doctor Ob-Gyn, holistic Ob-Gyn. Please introduce yourself. Hi, I'm Doctor Phabby, and I'm also known as Doctor Aflac or Doctor Borha. Or Dr. Fabulous is what I call her. Wow. Is, you know, there's so many. Anyway, the name change is just funny for me, so I think I changed the name so that people can recognize me.
00:10:36:06 - 00:10:58:04
Unknown
Yeah. So, well, I've been an OB, and I, a lot of people ask me, oh, when did you want to be an OB? And I said, I've always wanted to be an OB since I was eight years old. It's this is more of a calling to me than rather than just a job. So and I like using my name, Doctor Phabby, not my last name.
00:10:58:04 - 00:11:19:06
Unknown
Because when I tell people when I present myself, you don't know who you're going to meet, it's either you're going to need doctor Phabby or you're going to need the mom, who I'm a mom. I'm also a wife. I'm also a daughter. So who need who who is going to be with you at your birth is, I don't know, whatever you're going to need.
00:11:19:08 - 00:11:40:18
Unknown
See so powerful allowing the it's like what you just said, which I think is worth repeating this on the podcast. Everyone is listening. There's not one way to do anything. There's not only do something like, that's also about accepting the process and the journey and the person that's you're working in front of you in live time. Yeah, I think that's probably a huge thing for you.
00:11:40:19 - 00:12:06:02
Unknown
Yeah, it is very much because I love the idea of being present. And so many times we're not present. We're so busy. I would, if anything I would to say to any parent, becoming a new parent is like, kids don't care about the quantity of time, they care about the quality of time. And that's for everybody. It's a matter of being present.
00:12:06:04 - 00:12:25:22
Unknown
You , that’s how I felt at the shower. Because talk to me. Not even that long. 30 minutes. Yeah. And it was so important for my own healing. Yes. And I was like, wow. And that's what I think the most, for a lot of, a lot of people asking me, what is it about you? Why are you doing this different?
00:12:26:00 - 00:12:49:07
Unknown
I don't know that I'm doing anything different, only to the fact that I am listening. I am present and I'm there and not. I don't have an agenda. Right. Or timeline. Or timeline? Yes. And I'm patient. So they're saying she trusts. Yes, I trust birth, I love you, I'm asking if I don't like this. Is her bio very deep.
00:12:49:07 - 00:13:11:11
Unknown
These are very, very deep, important concepts about life. Not just not just even birth. Yeah. Life and yes scenarios. We've gotten so far away, and especially in the medical world from like trusting a woman's body and what, what they're capable of. And that's something with Phabby she trusts birth, she trusts your body and she trusts your baby, and she trusts the process.
00:13:11:11 - 00:13:38:12
Unknown
And it's it's kind of I always say that, like Phabby also does home births. And I'm always like, if, if, if a Ob-Gyn just attended a one home birth, right. They would it would shift the way they practice. I mean, that's to that point. That's a very powerful yes to that point. Because right now we're all the we have made, pregnancy a problem or a problem to solve.
00:13:38:12 - 00:14:05:18
Unknown
We have medicalized pregnancy. We have forgotten that pregnancy happens. Right. And it's normal. It's part of the physiology of women. We were created to birth. And so what is the problem here? Do you understand. So I also want to add this. Everybody has their own physiology. Right. And so the reason why I take my time with people is to know their own physiology.
00:14:05:18 - 00:14:29:00
Unknown
You're not going to be the same person. I'm not going to you're not cattle that you were following a line or recipe. Right. Everybody's different. So I need to get to know you to know what functions what is normal to you. So. And how long have you been an OB? I've been an OB for... wow. Now I'm going to say my age.
00:14:29:00 - 00:14:52:05
Unknown
I don't know if I want to say, oh, yeah, you outed yourself. You see, I don't know if I want to out myself. I kind of, you know, she's six months. She's been an OB for. No, I know right. Yeah. It's a baby. Come on. I'm so like hello, hello. One year anniversary is like, doing well. Okay, so I've been in practice I'm going to say exactly over 20 years.
00:14:52:09 - 00:15:12:02
Unknown
So there you go. That’s amazing. Yeah. And like you said, you knew since you were eight years old, since I was eight years old. And my mom, because I, my first language is French. And so I would say I want to be an obstetrician gynecologist. And my mom goes, do you even know what that is? Yes. I want to take care of women.
00:15:12:04 - 00:15:36:18
Unknown
So beautiful. Yeah. And I wanted to be a chef. Go figure. I mean, that's funny, right? Yeah. I don't know, like, maybe I don't know. Yeah, but it is creating exactly. It's from the activity or. Yes. Because the difference I would say even for a doula. Right. The way Lori, Lori is not a normal doula. No. Okay. I don't believe she's a normal doula.
00:15:36:18 - 00:15:56:21
Unknown
First of all, she touches people. She does massage on them. Who does that? Not every doula does that. They don't massage. Well, I interviewed a lot of doulas, and I'm not saying anything bad, but I just did it over the phone. Yeah. And Lori's voice, her frequency of her voice, I said, okay, feel really comfortable while Lori to be my doula and she's a team player.
00:15:56:23 - 00:16:21:18
Unknown
But you know, the birth of doulas was as at as out of a need that was necessary. So that's why when people ask also whoa, whoa whoa, what's the point of having a doula? Why do I want to doula? I said, well, we didn't need a doula before, but now we do because the medicine has changed. Yeah, the medical field has changed.
00:16:21:20 - 00:16:42:20
Unknown
The the need for person to stand in the middle and the gap to not only support and advocate is not just for the mom, but it's also for the dad, for the family. So I don't think that the doula is only for mom, but it's because I've seen Lori, you know, calm down the dad. So many times. Yeah.
00:16:43:01 - 00:17:04:11
Unknown
I mean, so it's it's for the entire family, you know, so that’s amazing. I haven't heard that yet too. And I think that that's also good for people who are listening. Yeah, yeah. Oh it's for whoever's in the room. Whoever's there. Yeah. Doulas will never get involved like in the middle of the partner? Yeah. I mean, we facilitate that bonding, but we hold space for for both of them.
00:17:04:13 - 00:17:32:18
Unknown
Yeah. You know, because it's something new. It's something new. And, you know, the idea of more working with Lori, I what was great and what's great about working with her is that this is how the model of care is supposed to be. It's the team that's around collaboration, collaboration and partnership because we all want the same thing. We're all there to support the family we're there to support.
00:17:32:18 - 00:17:55:02
Unknown
And would you say, I'm in and this is just coming to my mind now. I have never thought about this before. Would you say that in the collaboration? In the partnership, I always think of like compromising. So like I feel like in live time when there's a birth, don't you feel like the mom has to come halfway from where, like everyone has to kind of come from where they thought it might be to where where it actually is happening.
00:17:55:04 - 00:18:22:06
Unknown
Yes. Right. I would say if because I there's a respect. Okay. There's a respect I respect Lori. She respects me. I respect her knowledge and her understanding. We respect the parent and that we respect each other's roles. So because that there's a respect, there's a an unspoken trust. And so the flow of things that happen very powerful. Yes.
00:18:22:06 - 00:18:43:00
Unknown
And because things can happen and change in, in matter of minutes and moments and, I will look at Lori and she'll say, no, we need to do this, and I will trust her. That's what I will exactly. And that also goes not just for birth, but I think for all partnerships, relationships. You have to trust the person.
00:18:43:01 - 00:19:03:21
Unknown
I respect them, yes. It's very powerful. So we respect the parent, the mom, that that's the thing we need to respect. I'm sure they also feel that they feel that energy, yes, like like yes, yes. Everything is energy you felt. I mean, even at the baby shower when I was with Phabby like, I was like, you guys, my heart is getting stitched up.
00:19:03:23 - 00:19:23:21
Unknown
I was like, remembering how beautiful it was delivering my children, being with my children. I was like, you know what. It's like a new era, like Doctor Phabby. If I did have another child, like I would one, you know, Doctor Phabby and Lori and I should be open. And you never know. And it was just like, very. Yeah. It's like what you said.
00:19:23:21 - 00:19:44:10
Unknown
Energy. Yeah. You can feel like the. And when, when we respect them like, you know, trust each other and love each other because I do like, she's one of my best friends. I guess it's, the people that we are involved with. They feel our vibration, the energy that and the joy, the love, trust. And then they can relax.
00:19:44:10 - 00:20:07:03
Unknown
And they're just like. Because they're simmering in it. You know, I have, And before I ask you about your morning and nighttime routines, I want to say one other thing about Doctor J. Gordon, who really helped me with something as well, talking about like, love, trust. Like how in those very vulnerable moments, what what one person says can really define like what you said, like your whole process.
00:20:07:05 - 00:20:33:08
Unknown
And there was a moment when my water had broken during an exam with the twins, so I wasn't naturally going into labor. I got really scared. And, and then the doctor, the doctors again. I'm not saying anything bad about my own journey. In my children's journey, I accept all of it. I had to go on pitocin and I had never been on even an epidural or pitocin or even an Advil in like 20 years.
00:20:33:08 - 00:20:58:21
Unknown
So really nervous about the pitocin and I called the pediatrician. I was talking to Lori I was talking to the doctor, but I also called the pediatrician. Yes. And it's so powerful. It's so powerful because I also believe that health and wellness is also mental health. Mental health is health and wellness. I remember walking around the block feeling so defeated and it was so healing.
00:20:58:21 - 00:21:12:18
Unknown
What he said, this is before we're going to go to the hospital knowing I was going to have to go there, be on the pitocin and didn't know, like what was going to happen. He's so smart. I'm sure that comes from I think he's like 65 or 70, I don't know. I'm sure it comes from so many years of.
00:21:12:20 - 00:21:38:21
Unknown
But he said something very simple, like, it's totally okay, it's not going to hurt you. But I needed my personality profile, which is like fear based. Is it going to hurt me, is going to hurt the babies, is all going to go bad, right? Right now. Right. It's so powerful. He just reaffirms, I'm sure you are also very similar.
00:21:39:02 - 00:22:01:00
Unknown
It depends case by case, like right. What the person needs to hear, how their personality is. You have to be sure you could tell when people are afraid or in panic mode. So I felt like he had so much confidence. So much love, so much certainty that it allowed me to be like, okay, yeah, like I accept. I accept this process that really helps, right?
00:22:01:02 - 00:22:21:17
Unknown
That's beautiful. Okay, so, let's start with Doctor Phabbi. Yes. Please share with us. It can be you have no morning routine. You have a hybrid morning routine. You have a couple things you like to do. You have an ideal one that sometimes you get to do, but anything that you would like to share as a wife and a mom and a doctor about your morning routine.
00:22:21:19 - 00:22:47:11
Unknown
Oh, yeah. Because it's it's really a routine. It's, so I will wake up and I actually do some meditation in the morning. The first thing I want to do is like, I have this meditation or word gratitude. Yes. It's if we start off the day with gratitude is and it's it's just saying thank you. Thank you for breathing.
00:22:47:11 - 00:23:10:10
Unknown
Thank you for waking up. Thank you. Just thank you. With everything. And it's, I get it through the YouTube channel. It's, it's a ten minute gratitude meditation. I'll do that, you know? And, I also, do another meditation which says, trust in God and all your heart and all. It's it's just my thing that I love to do to submit to that.
00:23:10:12 - 00:23:30:15
Unknown
And then I'll go downstairs, I'll brush my teeth, take a shower, and then I go downstairs and I get my morning vitamin routine I'm talking about, yes, I do. This is why. First person Lori and Dr. Phabby first person in the whole eight months of the podcast to say that they take their vitamins in the morning.
00:23:30:15 - 00:23:54:05
Unknown
Oh yes, and I love your vitamin because everyone else thought it was cheesy, but, I’m happy you guys acknowledge it, you have listen, I hate taking pills. I hate taking pills, okay, I do, I’m so sick of it. So when I saw and by the way taking Querce because I take Quercetin. Yeah. Okay. Because it's flu season. Hello. It's so good.
00:23:54:07 - 00:24:18:05
Unknown
Okay. And tumeric. Hello. Okay. So I, I cannot tell you like, there's certain things like that's not good and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Oh, I will chug those things down like there's no tomorrow. I chug them down. It's it doesn't taste bad. It doesn't taste bad. So it doesn't taste bad. That's important. People need to do consistency.
00:24:18:05 - 00:24:43:15
Unknown
Yeah. It has to be delicious. So people will take it so that their blood work will move the needle. They want to. Oh, yeah. Berberine. Hello. Yes. The natural. Hello. Yes. The natural. Ozempic. Okay. People don't know this. It's the holistic, natural ozempic. Forget the shot. I take the Berberine. It works. So it's so, so. Okay, so I'm just.
00:24:43:17 - 00:25:10:00
Unknown
Anyways, I'm just like, that's my routine, you know, because. And I'm trying to fight age, you know, menopause is kicking my butt. No, it's coming for me. Oh, and oh, your menopause gummies. Oh, I have to I, I, we have to give you those today too. We have to give you those today. Your menopause gummies have saved me because let me, no, my husband was having issues because I have to tell you.
00:25:10:02 - 00:25:36:20
Unknown
Okay, I, I, I, I, I'm maxed out to all my estrovent. Yeah. I'm maxed out to my estro tests. That's it. My receptors were done to like Phabby we know what this is not going to work no more. So. So you're oh you're. Yes. Because it has Cohosh in it. No, no. It's so I have to say this in our last quarterly retreat, we were all talking about what products we want to make next year.
00:25:36:22 - 00:25:58:07
Unknown
And we just all agreed we're going to make a 32 ounce bottle called Menopause Ultra and liquid, like a liquid blend. Yes. So just because it is truly some it's a need state that many, many, many people. And if you could add a little bit of libido stuff in there, you know that's good. That would be really good.
00:25:58:09 - 00:26:16:16
Unknown
No, I'm going to tell Adam. Adam is in charge of our innovation. He's such a great man. And he actually, like, said something similar that all the research show that this is really what people are looking for. So you mean hello? Yes, yes. No. I love your morning routine. I wanted to say, I call it gratitude frequency.
00:26:16:16 - 00:26:36:02
Unknown
Yes. And and it's. I need to start, I think deep breathing or meditating, even for five minutes when I wake up. I haven't tried that ever. And I think I think I would really. I think it'd be really good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Lori Okay. Good morning. Routine. I have a big morning routine. Yeah, but, I wake up every day at six.
00:26:36:04 - 00:26:57:07
Unknown
I stumble to my coffee maker and flip on the switch and, get back in bed, or I sip. I like my fireplace and sit by the fire with some cozy blankets, and I journal. First thing I do is I journal and I have a journal, one that I created. The first one is I check in and say, today I feel because I'm such a why pass my feelings.
00:26:57:09 - 00:27:19:17
Unknown
And I never really drop in to like, actually check in on myself. Oh, also, I have to interrupt this because it is such an important concept. I have had an amazing executive coach for like 3 or 4 years, and he always tells me that he that I need to drop into my body. Yeah. Wow. Back. And he said all my energy goes out meaning for my children before school.
00:27:19:17 - 00:27:35:09
Unknown
After school. Yes. It's a check in with yourself. Yeah. And he said, MaryRuth, you need to go in, drop ground, ground into your body. So it's interesting that you said because I would also be a bypass the feelings person. Yeah. That you like. I think that that would be very powerful for me if I were. I feel like today it's five minutes.
00:27:35:09 - 00:27:51:12
Unknown
Like gratitude, like, say out loud. I like speaking out loud, say what I'm grateful for. And then maybe write I feel because some days I feel much better than others. So I need to kind of maybe go through whatever the other feeling is and I can I can plow through life and never stop to like, that's amazing. And I'm also same with you.
00:27:51:12 - 00:28:18:18
Unknown
I'm pouring out energy. I'm holding space for everybody else's emotions. And then it's just kind of like like, let me acknowledge how I feel. Like, let me just check in with myself. So I write from that place and then I go into gratitude and then not only just like I'm grateful for, but why? Because I think, like if if I'm grateful for the birds chirping outside because it calms my nervous system and it just it it like it makes me feel joy.
00:28:18:20 - 00:28:35:22
Unknown
And when you go into the why of why you're grateful for it, it just it's a little deeper. Yeah. This is why she's kind of like a life coach. That's the 2.0 version. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm there. I'm going to do I'm going to take a dive. I'm going to do my. No. Sorry. Cut the. Why are you gonna put the one.
00:28:35:22 - 00:28:54:00
Unknown
Also I think what's amazing is ask yourself what is kind of interesting. Yeah. And and then maybe you see a thread like over time you see, oh I really like things that are calming my nervous system. Yeah. Peace. Like, I'm like, it gives me peace. It gives me love. It makes me feel joyful, like, So that's beautiful.
00:28:54:02 - 00:29:18:00
Unknown
And then the. Isn't it amazing, Joel, how we hear so many different things. Yeah, we hear we. This is. We haven't heard this. Anything like this. Wow. Yeah. And we'll say all kinds of different things. Yeah. The third thing I do is I take a beat. And this is something I think really important women need to do is we're really good at tearing apart ourselves and focusing on what we don't have or like, what's wrong.
00:29:18:02 - 00:29:34:13
Unknown
So acknowledge something that I like or love about myself, or I'm really proud about. And I do this every day. That's awesome. I if I don't do this, it's like I really feel a big difference. And like this morning it was just like, I'm proud of me. Like I really like who I am. Yes. Like this. Yes. It's like this.
00:29:34:19 - 00:29:49:23
Unknown
Yes. And like not being ashamed to acknowledge that because I didn't feel that way about myself for a long period of time, and that I'm really proud of the life I created. And that was my today, so beautiful. The fourth thing I do is I set an intention for the way I want to show up for myself in the world.
00:29:50:00 - 00:30:09:05
Unknown
So today it was like present and grounded. And then something I'm hoping to manifest for myself or the world as if it already is in the present moment. Like life. Like life happens. I'm just like, understand the doula. I am with the most amazing man who is like it to do that, you know, like as if I already am.
00:30:09:05 - 00:30:37:00
Unknown
Yes, that's. And then I read two pages in a spiritual book or a book that, is something about birth or pregnancy or life because I think you never stop learning and never stop growing. So today was, one of my students, the the doulas I'm mentoring. It was a book. I can't remember the book, but it was about, indigenous, things that people do for birth.
00:30:37:02 - 00:30:53:04
Unknown
And it's about the, it's indigenous culture. And, like, so I read two pages of that. Well, I turned on my bath, and then I got into a bath with, some Epsom salts and some oils just because I'm freezing in the morning. For some reason, my house is really cold. I get like that too, and it just loosens up my whole body.
00:30:53:04 - 00:31:09:23
Unknown
And then I go usually to palates or go for a hike. I wanted to call out two things again, for people who listen to the podcast, and they kind of make their own routine, or they add something to their routine. So first thing I want to say, because we both touched on it, is.
00:31:10:01 - 00:31:30:17
Unknown
Everyone knows that I like time blocking. But I listen to someone else who does time blocking, and then they added something in to like, okay, you went here, you did this, you do this. Obviously, sometimes the schedule gets totally messed up. You can't do any of it. You go back to it. But it said, I'll say out loud, say out loud when you complete the task.
00:31:30:19 - 00:31:52:09
Unknown
I am like, after this podcast, when you're in the car, you could say, like, I'm so proud of myself. I went to the podcast, I completed the podcast. Like hopefully it will add value to people, but saying out loud, before you go from just one task to the next task to the next task, it said like speaking out loud and saying a good job to yourself is very important.
00:31:52:13 - 00:32:13:18
Unknown
Then it said, at the end of the day, let's say you're shifting from work. This other podcaster, I mean, it was this guy. I was like, this sounds amazing, he says. At the end of the day, he'll say out loud, like, today I'm done with my work and I'm going to go be with my children. My work will be there tomorrow morning waiting for me.
00:32:13:20 - 00:32:31:20
Unknown
Wow. But he said by saying it out loud, then he's not reactively looking at his Microsoft Outlook app. Right. So he's. Yeah, yeah. It's transitioning. I had a great day. I did my work I’m done with my work. I'm going to go have a good evening with my family. My work is going to be waiting for me tomorrow morning.
00:32:31:22 - 00:32:55:13
Unknown
And then, did you see there's like this Instagram TikTok post going around saying how like, Harvard just completed a study and I've seen this for years in the all staff meetings at MaryRuth Organics, like 13 years. And I just loved the Harvard study tag was like talking out loud to yourself, can change your chemistry quicker than supplements.
00:32:55:13 - 00:33:15:05
Unknown
So I was laughing. Yeah, because then I we all. But I also believe that I know that I know that blood work is important and that you have to have. But I always say health and wellness. After 20 years of being health wellness company, mental health is health and wellness. It's all a lot of healing. I'm sure when you see like birth fear, a life process, it's so much in your minds.
00:33:15:05 - 00:33:36:08
Unknown
Yes, and your outlook. And so I just wanted to kind of acknowledge that Harvard study that said, okay, like talking out loud to yourself or saying like what you're grateful for even out loud, or like saying it out loud while you're journaling, it is even more powerful. It's just being proven more and more in neuroscience. And then it's.
00:33:36:08 - 00:33:59:11
Unknown
Yeah, because one of the things that when we talk about the holistic aspect of ourselves, we are spiritual beings, right? So our outlook is made up of our cardinal bodies, right? The body is always the last to manifest everything. Okay. The internal part of us is our soul. Yeah. So our senses are the window and the doorway to our soul.
00:33:59:13 - 00:34:22:06
Unknown
So there's an internal clock that happens inside of you that is sometimes positive, sometimes negative, outwardly speaking. Positivity. Even if you speak to water molecules, just change. Exactly. All seen that one? Yes, but it's so brilliant. It's in. It's important for you. And your body's made up of water and you're talking to 70%. We're water people. We look like our planet.
00:34:22:06 - 00:34:52:12
Unknown
Okay, so if you speak within in a, that's why I say every time you speak in positivity, it can undo the negative inside and you utterly. So when this concept of fake it till you make it or speak it to till you believe it. Yeah. So I don't. Why can't we manifest? We are always, you know, like I told you, I believe in God and I believe in the creation that we were created in the likeness of God.
00:34:52:12 - 00:35:16:00
Unknown
So therefore we create constantly with our mouth. So either we create positive or we create negative. This is my favorite part of the podcast so far, because this is like the thing that I think is its power is my whole life's work of what I just want people to feel, which is what you said, like you are speaking and creating affecting all your cells and all the water.
00:35:16:02 - 00:35:34:14
Unknown
Yeah, content is health. It is health and completely helpless. Like there's that meme that say, you know, that you can take all the supplements, you go to the gym. But if you still like, you know, like your self, talk badly to your self. It's like it's this is so important. It's all holistic. It's a whole thing that you can't it's mind, body, spirit.
00:35:34:14 - 00:35:57:15
Unknown
You can't be. The first system to be developed is the nervous system. The nervous system would compromises the sympathetic and the parasympathetic system. Circulatory systems develop afterwards. So that means that the power of the mind is is important, right? I get to see this in the holiday party about the nervous system. It's true because I'm always talking about it.
00:35:57:15 - 00:36:19:10
Unknown
So you're basically saying a baby has its nervous system developed first. Correct. And where the parasympathetic system and the sympathetic system and then the circuit and then the circulatory system, so then we say this is why we say, oh, Folic Acid you know, take folate, folate before you find out you're pregnant. Folate, folate only folate.
00:36:19:10 - 00:36:43:18
Unknown
You know, you don't see the heartbeat until about five, five and a half weeks to six. But the nervous system is formed. It's already formed. This is very powerful for me. So once it's there, know that. Oh yes. That's why we say, you know, when you when you the only thing that we have control of is ourselves. We can't control each other.
00:36:43:21 - 00:37:04:21
Unknown
Nobody else. Just me. This is also a very important part of the podcast. I like to make it. I like if you are listening. Yeah. No, this is also like a massive, a massive life lesson. Yes. And that's why in birth and you'll see a lot of time. And one of the things I love, Lori when she does this is that she'll look at the person.
00:37:05:02 - 00:37:32:08
Unknown
Like, okay, what can we do? What can it's empowerment, right? The power within yourself. Yes she does. She's like, look into yourself. Well, what can we what? So the thing is, is that it's because to highlight that you're you don't need to go out of control because you are in control. I'm getting so emotional, like, yeah, what you were saying, like, only thing we can control is ourselves.
00:37:32:08 - 00:37:51:15
Unknown
Yep. Not other people. Yeah. People lose a lot of life force. Yes. From trying to control other things. Yeah. And it's like. And then what was the second thing you just said about, you just said to me so deep, you said we during birth, we don't have to go out of control. Correct. So deep. Yeah. We can be in control.
00:37:51:15 - 00:38:21:15
Unknown
Correct. That's amazing. And it's because and it's allowing the the hysteria makes you, And the reality is just like you don't need to do that. Your difference between one person to the other sometimes is I've seen some women scream, but still power in their they're using their force, their voice to plow through, like that. And then I see the ones that scream and they're out.
00:38:21:15 - 00:38:47:21
Unknown
And the energy is not just not directed. Correct. Yeah. So there's a difference right now. How would I am using that? Just because when you are speaking about birth, I'm also just thinking about life, thinking about all the different pain, suffering there. So hand in hand, it's crazy. I'm like very emotional the way that people do. Life is the way they do birth, and a lot of the coaching I do to prep them for birth is I spend family night both.
00:38:47:21 - 00:39:09:10
Unknown
We spend so much time getting to know our people, and understanding how they do life because it's the way they're going to show up in birth and, and motherhood. And I am like, now I've taken it a step further with my birth prepper. I'm like, where can we soften some of the edges? Yeah, I love that. So that and I do that through my coaching part so that you're not you're not like slammed up against it in birth.
00:39:09:10 - 00:39:29:06
Unknown
You don't get the lesson in birth or motherhood. It's like where can we start during pregnancy to kind of like look at maybe if you're a control freak, we can start playing around with this now so you can flow a little bit easier during birth or pregnancy. I'm going to also, I want them to make that also a clip.
00:39:29:08 - 00:39:54:06
Unknown
The way that you do life is the way you do. I love that and that also evolving is where can we soften that? Because also what I believe and I've never gotten to say this in any meeting or any, any places, I think that life is also about going against your nature. Like absolutely growing. Yes, against your nature is really growing.
00:39:54:11 - 00:40:14:21
Unknown
Okay, so what does not jams you into that? It's stretches. It's totally it's the door your limits. Especially when you're unmedicated I'm having a flashback right now MaryRuth of your Yeah I'm having a flashback because I remember there have been, there was times in your birth where you're like Lori Lori and you would look at me, that's how I am now.
00:40:14:21 - 00:40:35:02
Unknown
And you just stare into my eyes and I'm like, you're okay, breathe with me. And then you'd breathe and you're like, okay, okay, okay. And then you carry on. But she would hold the whole time she was like, I wanted to tell her, I don't think I can do this. Yes. Yeah. Well, that the other thing is, one of the things I look at birth like this is like, who does not like movies?
00:40:35:02 - 00:41:01:18
Unknown
Everybody loves movies, right? In a movie, there's character development. So just think of yourself as a character being developed and burst before you birthing this new person. You don't start off the same person. Completely true. And what's crazy is no one is telling you that maybe you're going to become very different than you. And I like what you said, like to work on it ahead of time so you're not pressed up against a wall.
00:41:01:20 - 00:41:21:00
Unknown
Yeah. And you said learning the lesson in the middle of labor. Exactly. Because guess what? We're all going to birth. We'll we first every day we wake up. It's a it's a new birth, right. Yeah. Birthing constantly. We're like dying when we go to that. There's a part of us that's dying. A part of us is being birthed in the morning.
00:41:21:00 - 00:41:42:19
Unknown
There's. There's the law of the universe. Fluid. What ends? Yeah. You know, there's death before a birth. There's always something. Have you seen the quote? Also, like, not everything in nature blooms 24/7 365 Yeah. Exactly. Five. Exactly. That's how like loses branches. Yes yes, yes. It's it's purpose. We're one of the, one of my best movies I really, really love is,
00:41:42:21 - 00:42:13:15
Unknown
I don't know if you’ve ever seen the movie Lucy, but it really showcases to you what is the purpose of every cell in. If you can think that every purpose, every cell in your body has purpose, every cell in your body have to watch this movie. Lucy. And so it means it means that, you know, by nature, when a cell is feeling comfortable and happy and safe, it will reproduce.
00:42:13:17 - 00:42:37:09
Unknown
It'll pass on the information to the next generation. So we're always passing on to the next generation. Okay. But when we feel fearful and scared, which is a sympathetic system, it's survival. So it doesn't matter where we are, we're going to survive and protect, protect, protect, protect, protect, protect. And so we always want to go into the parasympathetic system.
00:42:37:09 - 00:43:01:03
Unknown
That's where we are our avatar, the most powerful and that's the most for everyone. Listening to the podcast. Yes, is to go to drink your new magnesium. That's right, I have magnesium I want that yeah, I want that magnesium. Right guys? And we're going right there. Yeah, yeah. Wait, wait. No, I have to tell everybody that when, I introduced Maryruth’s to Phabby,, I was like, I have to get her into your vitamins.
00:43:01:03 - 00:43:20:11
Unknown
And she's like, here, go shopping. And I was like, fantastic. I put them in the house because I was in the backyard at the baby shower. My god. And you guys really? Because I saw the sweet spot with Instagram. The next thing you guys feel like I saw Julia Roberts and pretty women like, yeah, it's like, tell me to go vitamin shopping and like, you just you just like you just like, gave me.
00:43:20:11 - 00:43:42:09
Unknown
That was like the bag. So, you know, we were so excited. Can I tell you, my husband. Okay, this is not just for women. I have to tell you. My husband. What? He's been taking my stuff. It's true. He's taking my stuff. Like it? You see? Do. And I'm like, what are you doing? Oh, will you look good.
00:43:42:11 - 00:44:02:08
Unknown
I want I want to try to. I was like, you know what? It's get your own. It's also efficacious. So really like, oh yes. Really potent. Yes. And he's been taking microcurrent. Okay. He's been drinking like you have to get some today for. No, I am, I am because I was like, there's no more, you know Doctor Phabby, you went first.
00:44:02:08 - 00:44:20:09
Unknown
So Lori, will you please go first with your nighttime routine or a section of your nighttime routine? Yes. So, I my brain doesn't work after 6:00. It just. I turn off my phone at seven if I'm not going out. Yes. Yeah. I go to bed really early because I like to wake up early, but my brain does not work after like 5 or 6.
00:44:20:09 - 00:44:44:09
Unknown
So I'm like, okay, you know, so I try to stop seeing clients or teaching classes or anything by 6:00. And I usually just kind of have the wind down time a little bit. And then, I go into my bedroom and I have red lights. Yeah. And I have them bulbs that are, you know, I forget that it's that Dave Asprey, one that he has.
00:44:44:11 - 00:45:01:18
Unknown
And I put them in my room and I turn on the red lights, and I put on this guy who I'm obsessed with, and I've all my clients listen to him, and I try to use it during birth. His name, he's healing vibrations on YouTube and he plays the most, like I said, the sand bath. Yes. Oh, I need to get you.
00:45:01:18 - 00:45:21:15
Unknown
I need some of that. Oh, no, Mary, I’ll send you, I’ll send you, I'm going to watch Lucy the movie and I'm going to get the sound bath. Okay, I'll send you the sound bath. The healing vibrations on YouTube. He has a black screen, one for Just Sleep that I literally play. I put it on my dogs get it, they get in bed with me and they we we just like they go knock.
00:45:21:15 - 00:45:42:00
Unknown
They knock out with a red light and then the sound bath. And then usually I'll just like, read a few pages, I turn, I can't ever turn my phone off because. Yeah, because yeah, but I really set a boundary with my client saying, listen, I go to bed at like eight times. Just don't don't call me unless you're in, like, you know, in labor.
00:45:42:02 - 00:45:57:09
Unknown
But, you know, and then I wake up really early in the morning, so that's my. No. I love the the. I need the sound bath. I'll send it to you. I can feel your kids. I love it, Mary. You love the kids. So I was thinking. I was thinking after dinner. I begged them before dinner. After dinner.
00:45:57:10 - 00:46:12:07
Unknown
Put it on, put it in my house. Have it that we we play chess, and then they go to bed so we could listen to it while I play chess. Oh for sure. Well, they will be so tired. They will, they will like. Yeah, I sleep with it all night long. That's amazing. Like I woke up this morning and I was still playing.
00:46:12:12 - 00:46:31:06
Unknown
Yeah, yeah I love that. Yeah I love it. And it kind of, you know, just blocks out any noise outside and it just kind of, I don't know, I feel like I'm being healed in my sleep. Like he has. Yeah. He has a lot of different ones. Yeah. And I the one I usually use is the heavenly one always I don't know.
00:46:31:06 - 00:46:57:15
Unknown
Yes. Yes. He has heaven. Do you live in Vegas? Yes, sir. The healing vibrations, sir. And he has heavenly, angelic, I think. Angelic sound or heaven. Oh yeah. Well, something like heavenly Frequency. I was like, I want to sleep with the angels on the day. Like if I'm home working. And then also, I call him. I mean, I wrote to him, I was, I wrote to him because I was like, listen, I want to learn how to play sound bowls because I thought that'd be kind of fun to do it.
00:46:57:15 - 00:47:16:03
Unknown
But how, you know, and, and and I was like, do you teach? And he says, so funny you asked him. I'm about to launch. I got a training. So I was like, let me know. And he, oh, this is amazing. I want to learn how to because he's magic. I cannot wait to listen to magic it. He, I use his in, in a birth.
00:47:16:05 - 00:47:40:10
Unknown
The dog was like he was gone. So much so after the birth, the family were like, for Billy, can you send us that thing for the dogs so that we could come? We want to go out to dinner and that thing just. Yeah. It's frequency. It's like the frequency. Yeah. And I it's so funny. I was like, the dog with this, and the dog's like this, you know?
00:47:40:11 - 00:48:04:19
Unknown
I turn on the lights, he's like, yeah, I turn on the red lights and I put the sound baths on and my dogs get in bed. They lay down, they like, yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Your bedtime nighttime. So. Well, so my nighttime routine is very funny, but. Okay. So Lori makes this cream, for your face cream, a face cream.
00:48:04:21 - 00:48:24:12
Unknown
And so, listen, it's like. It's like crack. Okay? So. So it's crack cream that I call. It's a crack cream and that face crack. And so I put that, and I do my red light. Oh. So nice. So you both are doing red light. That's amazing. At the end of the day. Yeah yeah. Red light here I have it in the morning.
00:48:24:15 - 00:48:40:19
Unknown
But I think I actually would prefer come because I get so lined I, I'm, I feel like if I did at night when I'm not going anywhere after the children are sleeping, I think I would and listen to the sound bowl. I think I would lower the temperature of my. You can also put I think, oh it's not.
00:48:40:19 - 00:48:57:03
Unknown
Wait, sometimes I wake up in the morning and I feel like it might help me sleep. You know, I do another light doing white night light. Yes. They have the red light. Oh my children, yes, I do it like there's, the system has like different light for different. So I do a white light in the morning. Oh it's just nice.
00:48:57:05 - 00:49:20:15
Unknown
Anyway, yeah I do, I love to send me that link. Yeah. And so I do the red light and then, I'm the type of person I really need to not use my brain at night. So I look at the most I'm so dumbest show ever took. I like, I want to watch a show that does not require any brain cells.
00:49:20:21 - 00:49:40:12
Unknown
Yes, I so I holiday stuff right now right. I just I just saw one of the best Christmas holiday movies. It was so good. It was it was the dating app, one where the girl thinks he looks one way, but he's really hiding behind a photo and he flies to their house for Christmas. No. Oh, wow. It was amazing.
00:49:40:12 - 00:49:56:06
Unknown
Okay, so I'm going to watch that. It was amazing. I also watch Champagne Problems. I watched that the other day. Champagne problems. But the other one that that the dating app one was so sweet. That one I liked more than, oh, I'm gonna have to watch it because I am I every night I've been watching a holiday movie and then I go into my room.
00:49:56:06 - 00:50:16:06
Unknown
Yeah, put on the red light. It's so I have to. I actually fully agree with this. If I'm using my brain, I will not fall asleep or I will wake up in the middle of night. Correct. And so I really so well my now I'm bingeing on different ones. I was watching, Christmas the Kranks I watch elves, I watch that's like classic Christmas story.
00:50:16:06 - 00:50:39:18
Unknown
You know, like I, I love these days. I love watching them. Everybody does. We should do a movie. I was I know I was watching this show called Virgin River. It's. Oh I loved it. Yeah. So what I noticed about this because I saw that it's like the number one show. Watch on Netflix. I have a theory where everybody just wants a good rom com and, yes, in the mountains at the holiday time.
00:50:39:18 - 00:51:01:09
Unknown
Yeah, because everyone's watching it. Yes. Right. Who does not? Everyone's watching. Let's see how many people watch Love Actually. Yeah. Okay. Do you remember Love Actually? My mom was actually my mom. My. This is a true story of colleagues listening. A couple days ago, she's like, I googled the top 25 rom coms. Have you seen love? Actually? I've seen, yes, mom seen it twice.
00:51:01:09 - 00:51:18:18
Unknown
You've showed it to me twice. See? Oh my God, by the way, you. I walked in, but she couldn't even remember. I walked in and Colleen was walking out. She looks amazing. She's doing it on her program. She's doing great. She's believable. She's 70 now. She looks like. She's like, doing so much younger than me. It's those vitamins.
00:51:18:22 - 00:51:40:11
Unknown
I'll get these on. I want to get on Colleen's program. See? So, did you have anything else I wanted to add? Otherwise, we'll do our very last session. That's all I do. I do. So before we go, I thought you could each just say, like, a closing statement or belief or something that's really important to you that you would like to share with people.
00:51:40:11 - 00:52:11:02
Unknown
That's, like, comforting or something about overcoming challenges or just life's journey. So I will start with Lori. Just any closing comment for everyone who's listening. And, I would probably just what just popped in my mind is just to remember to to always trust your intuition that, especially as you know, if you're a mother or someone to be and to really focus on yourself and quiet the noise around you.
00:52:11:04 - 00:52:29:03
Unknown
I know with social media today and everything at your fingertips, there's just so much information and projection and opinions from other people coming at you, and to really quiet the noise and go within and really sit with what feels right for you and then follow it, even if it doesn't make sense to other people. I love this intuition.
00:52:29:03 - 00:52:57:09
Unknown
Yeah. You know, I, I would like to, to piggyback on what she's saying is nobody fails at birth. Yeah. And that's the honest truth is, nobody will fail at birth. There's no such thing as perfectionism. And it's a lie. It's just horrify. And I think a lot of people need to hear that. Yes, yes. And it runs perfectionism.
00:52:57:09 - 00:53:23:22
Unknown
Boy. Oh, yeah, it does. Very damaging. Yes. It's extremely damaging. And if I were, it's like it's I think if we were oh, I'll add another thing. Yes. Because I will say, please, people always ask me, you know, they need all these things for this perfect birth. Birth is the doorway to parenthood. It's the beginning. It's not even the end of the story.
00:53:24:03 - 00:53:50:19
Unknown
It's just the door. It's like a door knob, like it's the door. And if anything, if you didn't have the doula, if you didn't have the the night nurse, if you didn't have the right clothes, if you didn't have the right doctor, if you didn't have the right setting, if you didn't have the right shoes, if you didn't have you have everything you need for the birth.
00:53:50:21 - 00:54:17:08
Unknown
You have yourself. You're you have this. You guys are the real deal. You guys are saying the deepest. Yeah. Lessons that I hope my daughter will learn about life. Period. Yeah. It's interesting. I always say to people, you know what's best for you. Like, you have to trust that you know also what's best for you. And then you both said something very similar.
00:54:17:13 - 00:54:36:19
Unknown
Yeah. Really trust, you know, your intuition. And then can you say it one more time? Nobody fails at birth. And. And the second part, you said something like I almost blew this out. Just thing as perfection. There's no such thing as. And you said, I said if you didn't have anything, if you didn't have anything, you have everything.
00:54:36:21 - 00:54:56:22
Unknown
They still have what? You still have what it takes. Because what I think is, is, is so important. Like, yeah. For anything. Yeah. Because a lot of times people feel like I don't have this, I don't have that. I can't, I can't do it, I can't do it, I can't do it or they miss or the other thing you get is like, oh, I didn't take my vitamins, I didn't write, I didn't do this.
00:54:56:22 - 00:55:24:09
Unknown
I know, and I tell people, do you know, they're people that are in starving countries famine, no water, no nothing. Yet they still manage to be pregnant and they have babies and breastfeed. Yeah, yeah. So what does that tell you that tells you you have everything you need. Everything else is gravy. It's extra. Extra. You have everything. This is so beautiful.
00:55:24:11 - 00:55:33:03
Unknown
Thank you both so much for coming on the podcast. This is like the best episode to end the year. And thank you everyone for listening. Okay.