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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America. I am your host, Seth Holehouse. And boy, do we have a show today? So what do president Trump, Operation Warp Speed, the CCP, Wuhan, what do all these things have in common? According to my guest today, Patel Patriot, they are all central to what we would know as devolution.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna get into this today. Before we jump into the interview, have a quick few notes for you. First off, I've had a lot of people asking me for recommendations on where to buy gold. With inflation and the supply chain shortages and what we see happening with Biden, a lot of people are fearful with their for their wealth or they wanna move money out of a four zero one k that's sitting with companies like Vanguard, which are actively trying to destroy our country and our world. And I've done some research for you because I don't wanna recommend someone that I wouldn't personally use.
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Speaker 1:You know, whether you would you choose what you want to do, it's up to you. So again, that's goldwithseth dot com. Alright, so let's welcome my guest today, Patel Patriot, who has been a hero in helping people understand and break down and research what's happening with this thing called devolution. So Patel, welcome so much. Thank you very, very much for joining me.
Speaker 2:Hey, Seth. How are doing? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I'm I'm actually very well. There's even though we're on the one year anniversary of the resident in chief, I actually feel a lot of hope. How are you doing?
Speaker 2:I'm doing well. I'm kind of in the same boat. It's momentum is is on our side right now. I feel it. And it's it's gonna be interesting these next few months.
Speaker 1:I agree. So your most recent part you put out in your devolution series on Substack, which folks, if you wanna follow Patel Patriot's work, he's active on Telegram, and he has his Substack, which is where he's publishing all his content, which I'll share those on my Telegram after the show for you. But in your most recent part, part fifteen, one of the points that you're making there, which I thought was really interesting, is you're taking a look back at what Biden has been able to accomplish. And I know that for me, after Biden, you know, took you know, went through the inauguration process and they fenced off everything, I remember because I've been studying, you know, Venezuela and in some of the other countries that fell to communism. I was worried that within a couple of months, he's gonna stack the Supreme Court, change our voting laws, get rid of the filibuster, and just make these sweeping changes.
Speaker 1:But one of the major points that you've made in your article, which I wanna hear more about, is that he really hasn't accomplished very much and that perhaps there's more behind why that's happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And and that's just it. I mean, here here's, like, an an administration and a party and maybe even, you know, some other groups alongside with that who stole an election for for Joe Biden, and they did it successfully. They got away with it supposedly, and here they can't get anything they wanted accomplished. And there's a a laundry list of items that I that I laid out in this article.
Speaker 2:There there's a guy's name is oh, shoot. I can't think of his name. Slague. He goes by Slague. He's written a series called the wartime presidency, and he's the one who compiled this list.
Speaker 2:So I just I I clipped it, but it's it's not even mean, there's more. There there's more than just this. It's the stuff that's happened recently in the last month. You could probably add, like, 20 more items to this list. It's just it's it's so interesting that having stolen election, yet you can't get anything accomplished.
Speaker 2:It just it doesn't add up. You know, something is clearly stopping them in their tracks at every single turn.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I agree. And, actually, I I forgot to remind you that we are on YouTube and and Facebook. We have to yeah. That's okay.
Speaker 1:Sorry. So we talk about this thing as the the the jab if we're bringing up, which we'll talk about it because it's part of operation warp speed. But usually, refer to the the incidents surrounding November 2020.
Speaker 2:But I think we should
Speaker 1:be okay. That's a we should be fine. No. But it's an interesting point. And just yesterday, we saw that the senate shut down.
Speaker 1:There's two may you know, sweeping laws they're trying to pass that would change voting. I think the the right to vote or I forget what they're calling them, some sort of, you know, virtue signaling name, and the changes they're gonna make to the filibuster. And so, basically, what so you're saying that, yes, there are these indicators, right? We're seeing, okay, they were going to accomplish all these things, but they haven't been able to. So in terms of devolution itself, which, you know, for folks that are new to devolution, Patel, do you wanna just give a quick overview of what devolution is and how we've gotten to where we are today?
Speaker 2:Sure. It's it's it's based on the context that we were attacked by a virus of some sort, and the one party used the virus as a pretext to do some shenanigans around our election. And Trump knew it was gonna happen, and there's a lot of evidence pointing to Trump seeing that coming. And as it unfolded after the election, he took some steps and implemented some continuity of government plans that allowed him to walk away. And what by walking away, he, you know, he left some protections essentially for a lot of the the major things.
Speaker 2:I mean, think of all the stuff that Biden has tried to do that he couldn't get done and the damages they could have done to our country. I think a lot of this stuff has been kinda, you know, stopped because of the devolution team and those in place. But it I I do believe at some point, he will be put back in the office. It's you know, we can speculate all day long on how. Have my own theory of how he'll get get put back in.
Speaker 2:But but, yeah, he he's kinda it's almost like a shadow government behind the scenes, and they're they're you have to read the series to get the full scope of it. It's it's big, but their their main goal and their main job is to even though the country's kinda going downhill, they're they're not gonna let it completely totally burn to the ground.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's a good point. And that's the one thing too is I see there's a lot of people, you know, whether you're commenting on this or I put a post on Telegram and they say, you know, all this is all hopium and and devolutions is is a joke. And but I usually ask them. I say, have you read Patel's work?
Speaker 1:Because, you know, for me, look, as we're leading up to really inauguration day one year ago, I had a lot of ideas of what I thought was going to happen, whether it was gonna be arrest. You know, I I saw very clearly what happened November 3. I've actually I made a video about it, which is why I'm here doing this because Trump, you know, happened to also agree with that video that I made. And I saw what was happening, but I I remember thinking that after Biden got in, like, I thought in a lot a lot of ways, there wasn't a path for Biden to get in, you know, whether it's gonna be the, you know, January 6 and with with Pence or any number of ways that it could have been stopped. But after he got in, I, in a lot of ways was very disheartened.
Speaker 1:And any ideas I had of, you know, Trump still being in control, they really they left me. And I just thought, okay, you know what, this is our reality. We the people have to stand up and take our country back. And it wasn't until I came across your work actually through I heard you on x 22. This is a while ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe one of your first interviews with Dave. I came across your work. And I thought, you know, there's something to this. But being very honest, I was very skeptical, right? Because I was used to being told all these different grand ideas and, and but after I I went through your work, I read as much as you had at that time, and you make a very compelling case for the fact that there is something going on, that Trump is doing something behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:And and what would you say, again, for someone coming to you and saying, hey, look, Patel, this is it's a joke. It's not real. What are, say, three of the top things that you would show somebody or or share with them to say, look. These are the big three biggest indicators I believe something is happening.
Speaker 2:Sure. Well, I think number one is the the comments that Trump made leading up to November 3. And you have you have to understand who Trump is too. I mean, if if you understand who he is as a person and his you know, he's competitive, just his mindset about things, you know, the shanties that took place on November 3, him knowing about it because, again, he he he've said multiple times we're gonna use COVID to you know, for a lot of mail in ballots, and it just doesn't make sense. It's completely against his character to just not prepare for it or have something in place and just kinda let it happen.
Speaker 2:And then after that's done, just walk away. So number one, I mean, it's completely against his character for to just end like that. And that was kinda one of the first things that maybe even dive in because it just didn't make sense. But then if you look at the moves that that took place post election, I mean, there's all sorts of Department of Defense moves. There was a lot of the moves that and and the the story lines and things that happened surrounding just the Department of Defense were very interesting.
Speaker 2:And then probably one of the biggest things is and I covered this in part 13, that executive order thirteen nine six one, where he he literally had an executive order on December 7 as an outgoing president where it established a committee which implemented and executed a continuity of government plan. You know, why why would he need to do that as an outgoing president? It just didn't make sense. And the fact that
Speaker 1:the word is
Speaker 2:is even in there.
Speaker 1:And what is what is continuity of government? How do you how would you describe, you know, that or as COG as you refer to it?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So back in the Cold War days, you know, if nuclear war was was a big worry. And so if if Russia was gonna nuke us and they took out our government, how would we continue forward as a nation with some sort of, you know, constitutional form of government like our founders intended? And so they started establishing these plans. I think it was Truman in, like, '52 or '6 or '60 or '50, I don't remember which.
Speaker 2:He was the first one that said to each of the agencies and departments, you guys need to have some sort of continuity of government plan. And it's it's evolved since then. I mean, it's it's you know, then it was just nuclear war and now it's there there's contingencies for every different situation, whether it's an earthquake or volcano, nuclear war, tsunami. I mean, who knows? They have all sorts of plans ready.
Speaker 2:And as soon as something happens, they just kick get kicked into gear, and and it's it's continuing the government with different people at the helm than who was there before. So devolution specifically, it's, you know, Trump he he essentially devolved his authority almost, you know, spread it out amongst different working bodies, and they're the ones that are manning the the eight national central functions. But, yeah, cognitive government, it's it's been around for a long time, and we just don't really talk about it that much.
Speaker 1:And so, you know, basically yeah. So as I understand, it's just just the idea that and this is why China becomes critical to this. Right? And I know that even something you pointed out was that the was it under Obama that the election got moved into being critical infrastructure? Or when did that first happen that
Speaker 2:Yeah. So in, you know, the twenty sixteen election, the the Democrats were crying foul and said that that Trump worked with with Putin and they stole the election. And, you know, I think they were trying to continue that narrative and push that narrative as much as possible. And so in January, I think it was, like, January 13 or something of 2017, Obama's Department of Homeland Security, like the sec the head of it, his name is Jay Johnson, he clarify or he classified election infrastructure as a part of critical infrastructure. Before that, it wasn't.
Speaker 2:And so by doing that, any attack or interference on our election infrastructure would be considered an act of war. And there's even a quote from 2018 or 2019 from from general Lacasoni. He's the the combatant commander for cybercommon. He's the head of our NSA as well. He even said that any attack on our election infrastructure would cross the threshold into war.
Speaker 2:So that's and that's just one of the ways that I I believe we're at war, which is it's it's a big part of devolution is you have to understand that we are in a in a war. It's not your typical war, but we are in war. The other way is through through COVID. And and if you look at Trump's comments on COVID, I mean, there's interviews where he's called himself a wartime president. He said that COVID was the worst attack this this country's ever seen, worse than Pearl Harbor, worse than the World Trade Center.
Speaker 2:And so those aren't some comments that you should be taking lightly from president of The United States. And I know he can be a little hyperbolic, but he was very deliberate with with his choice of words there. So, yeah, I do believe, and and we're seeing more evidence coming out now about the origins of of COVID, and, you know, it's it's kinda proven to be true that it it might have been a deliberate we might be at war right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean, which which I mean, even I imagine Trump has access to a lot of information that you and I don't have access to. But even through my own research, the, you know, the Chinese minister of defense back as early as, you know, over twenty years ago was talking about how a biological weapons attack was was the best route to wage World War three on The US. There's all these things that that point to that. And that was something that really you helped me to understand is that the pretext for all of this is the fact that we are at war.
Speaker 1:And historically, the various presidents that have done something similar to this, which in a lot of the actions as you point out in your writing, a lot of the actions that president might take during wartime aren't even made public. And some of them may not even be known by Congress, because that's just that, you know, like under Lincoln, for instance, when sometimes you have to make a split second decision. And so that was very helpful for me. Now in part 15, you talk a lot about Operation Warp Speed. You talk a lot about the indicators that there was a biological weapons attack coming, but also not only the indicators that showed that, but also that Trump responded to it.
Speaker 1:Can you go into some of that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So as as far as the indicators go, I mean, before Trump even took office, you look at at doctor Holdren. Right? His name is coming out a lot more now, but he was Obama's director of the office of science and technology. And he lifted the moratorium on gain of function research, which is at the heart of this whole pandemic.
Speaker 2:Right? And so, again, that was I think it was January ninth of twenty seventeen before eleven days before Trump took office. Like, three days later, you have Anthony Fauci giving that speech talking about how the the Trump administration is gonna be hit with some sort of pandemic during their administration. Okay? So, I mean, again, those were both before Trump even took office.
Speaker 2:And then you look at all of the, you know, these these conferences that all these groups would would have, you know, pandemic exercises, they call them planning exercises. They they had multiple. I mean, they would almost have, like, two or three year leading up to when COVID broke out. And so to me, that shows that, okay. Well, they're kinda telling their hand, and and there's no way that Trump, as the head of our, you know, our government, head of our military our military, they they watch for stuff like this.
Speaker 2:You know, they're not they're not stupid. They have intelligence. They they know what's going on behind the scenes too. So knowing that our intelligence, which is our military intelligence is the best in the world, in my opinion, I'm with with the most access to the best technology, I gotta imagine they saw something like this coming. And especially when you look at doctor Holdren, he's he was a part of Xingxua University, which is where Xi came from.
Speaker 2:He was a distinguished professor. Same with Charles Lieber, the guy who got arrested recently for stealing research. They're both associated with that university. Our government and our military knows about that kind of stuff. So that that kinda gives some of the pretext.
Speaker 2:And then when you look at some of the moves that Trump started making, I I think it foreshadows a little bit too because each president has their own national security strategy that they come out with, which which outlines their strategy throughout throughout their whole presidency. Okay? And Trump's came out in December of of twenty seventeen. And in there, it had a section on on biosecurity and combating biothreats. And when you read the actual text in the in the strategy, I mean, it's it's almost like he saw this coming when he's talking about how a a pandemic being done on purpose could threaten our economic way of life.
Speaker 2:It could, you know, could kill people and it could contribute to a loss of confidence in our government institutions, which is exactly what we're going through right now. And so it was just very interesting. And then about a year later in I think it was September or November of of twenty eighteen, he actually released a specific national biodefense strategy, which was all focused on biodefense. And in there, I mean, there's there's multiple references to a deliberate bio attack. There's even references to biodefense and continuity of government.
Speaker 2:They even say the word devolution in in the biodefense strategy, which blew my mind too. But there there was a couple interesting things that that really stood out to me in that document. And probably the the most significant one was, if you remember from my part 13 from our last interview, we talked about that committee that was formed to implement and execute devolution. Well, the chair of that committee was the national security adviser, Robert O'Brien. Well, that position in national security adviser was was made the head adviser for biodefense based on this national biodefense strategy.
Speaker 2:So, I think that was just an interesting correlation, especially when we get into in a little bit some of the moves that Trump made around the time that COVID came out. I think it's pretty telling that it it was part of a bigger plan.
Speaker 1:So one of the the big, you know, you know, discussions that's been going on and I had an interview. I I had doctor David Martin come on who was the the lead person in Plandemic two, which was a phenomenal documentary exposing the overall, you know, COVID narrative and just what's behind it. And, you know, but the really the discussion is that, you know, why is Trump, you know, say pushing the jab, right? As I said, we can talk about on YouTube. Right?
Speaker 1:And I watched your interview with Cliff High. And I've watched a lot of also what Cliff High has to say. And actually, I'll be interviewing him soon. I'm I'm now in touch with him, which will be interesting to say the least. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's just, you know, just a wealth of information. But why so and and people, this is the biggest thing I've seen within the Patriot community where they've said, look, I'm done with Trump because he's promoting this. Why is he promoting this? Why is he promoting this? And your in your discussion with Cliff High and also some of the points that you made in devolution fifteen that he was trying to avert something else from happening.
Speaker 1:So can you tell us a little bit about what you think about that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I I did a poll on my my telegram before I released part 15, and I asked if if first, I asked, you know, if the election was tomorrow, would you vote for Trump or Biden? It was, like, 96% of people said they would vote for Trump. So, I mean, I knew I was dealing with a lot of Trump supporters, and I knew that anyway, but I just figured I'd clarify. But then the next question I said, has Trump's pro vaccine stance led you to get the jab?
Speaker 2:And 99% of respondents said no. Okay? So when you when you look at it objectively, Trump's pro vaccine stance or pro jab stance is is not affecting, you know, materially the number of people of his supporters on the right that are getting the jab. Okay? And so I thought that was very interesting, but he's still pro jab.
Speaker 2:But he he has taught us to question things. He's taught us to, you know, think for ourselves and not really trust anything our government or the media or anybody's telling us. And I think that's that's his goal. He told us the mainstream media was the enemy of the people, and and we believe him. And and so that's he's got us in the right spot.
Speaker 2:But then you look at the other side of the aisle with the brainwashing that the mainstream media has done and their hatred hatred for Trump, I can't think of a scenario where somebody on the left is gonna look at Trump and take the jab because Trump is recommending it. You know what I mean? They've they've either already taken it because the mainstream media said to, or they're not gonna take it because Trump recommended it. So in my opinion, I don't think Trump's pro vaccine stance is affecting the number of people getting the vaccine at all. I mean, it's it's very insignificant, the amount of people that are getting it because of he's saying to.
Speaker 2:And so when when you think of, okay, then why is he doing it? I I think it's it's politics. And there's definitely something more going on behind the scenes. But if if Trump came out anti vaxx, the the media would have been pinning everything going wrong with with our economy, with with basically our world today on on Trump. I mean, they tried to do that anyway, but think of the ammo they would have had if if he'd been anti vaxx.
Speaker 2:But since he's pro vaxx, they can't do that and still falls on Biden, which is key because right now, what we need is people on the left to wake up and walk away from Biden and the democrats. So he needs to be taking all the blame. And and and so it's it's definitely strategic of him to be pro vaxx. And then there's even more. I mean, I I don't know if you wanna go into that the military vaxx right now or if there's other stuff you wanna go into, but I think that's a part of it too because I've been saying for a long time, I didn't even wanna talk about the vaccine or COVID because there's so much information that we just don't know about and it's that's still true.
Speaker 2:But when you look, you know, in this December, there there's a military vax that that was announced as coming out, and this vaccine is supposedly gonna work against all future variants and essentially shut down the virus altogether. That's been working behind the scenes, and it was started under Trump, and it's been going on for two years. And we had no idea about it, but Trump knew. And so the the fact that he he the reason he's pro vaxxer, the reason he does things, he has information that we don't have access to. So we can't necessarily judge him at face value.
Speaker 2:We have to, you know I mean, it's okay to question some things, but we gotta trust him a little bit too because there's definitely more going on behind the scenes, especially when you think that we are in a war right now with with another country and an entire political establishment that's I mean, they've been lying to us for four years. They they've I mean, they've killed more people than anybody. The the this whole the whole narrative about the hydroxychloroquine. I mean, look at the truth that that just came out about that last week with from the major Murphy drops. Hydroxychloroquine was considered curative by the Department of Defense in May of or April of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2:Trump started pushing hydroxychloroquine March nineteenth of twenty twenty. He comes out pro hydroxychloroquine. The media comes out and just obliterates them and says, oh, that's not true. You can't trust it. You can't trust it.
Speaker 2:How many people could have had access to hydroxychloroquine or could have taken it as a preventative and and lived but didn't and then ended up die I mean, that's the mainstream media being complicit in the deaths of a lot of people just because they wanted to do some shenanigans on November 3. You know what I mean? So there there's a lot that we still don't know about.
Speaker 1:Yeah. No. Those are and those are some really good points. And I think that one thing that, you know, a point that, you know, Cliff made specifically that that I I happen to agree with is everything. So let's just remove Trump from the equation.
Speaker 1:All of the research that I've done, and if you look at, you know, say, spars, you know, 2025, '20 '20 '8, you look at the overall planning for these, you look at, you know, lockstep, event two zero one. What I'm seeing with this is everything points to the fact that it even with how Fauci responded that they wouldn't have a jab done for a long time, that there was a plan to keep the world in these perpetual lockdowns. If you look at you know, I interviewed recently the guy named Michael Sanger who wrote wrote a book called snake oil and how Xi Jinping shut down the world. And it just everything points to the fact that they wanted to use the pandemic as a pretense to basically have a nonstop round of lockdowns because Yep. If they're trying to push forward the great reset, which is, you know, crushing individuals and crushing small businesses, getting everyone, you know, stuck into this system of, you know, smart monitoring and social credit systems, etcetera, you know, they have to maintain that.
Speaker 1:So they have to go to maintain the narrative of keeping people locked down. Right? So maybe not like permanently, but you know, what we've seen, we see the cycle where it's like, okay, lockdown. Okay, it's fixed. Okay, new variant.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness. And then there's a lockdown, the push for the boosters and this. And so the idea that, you know, Cliff put put forth, I've heard other areas as well is that the by you know, through the development of Operation Warp Speed and and Trump taking control of that process and speeding up that process that he averted the world being forced into four or five plus years of lockdowns, which I think that those, you know, would have been catastrophic, that they could have been hundreds of millions of deaths, Not to mention the economic destruction, the whole world would have fallen into the the biggest depression we've ever seen.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No. That that's a great point. I mean, they they definitely use fear as a tactic to control us. So that's that's it's all about the fear.
Speaker 2:And as long as we fear them and fear the narrative that they put forth, they're gonna have some sort of control over our lives. And that's that's what this whole thing was about about. But but yeah. I mean, Operation Warp Speed, I definitely think it was it it was Trump's biggest accomplishment if if I'm right about everything that we're talking about. And I do think this plays in the devolution too because maybe let's let's go into the timeline a little bit about how COVID came out here because I think it's this is an important important thing to to point out.
Speaker 2:So the major Murphy documents that came out last week, it confirmed that COVID came out on August of twenty nineteen. There was a a a house of foreign affairs Republican committee that released a report this August of twenty twenty one, and they outlined the timeline of COVID. And they said, you know, it came out from the the Wuhan Institute of Virology no later than 09/12/2019. It was on or before September 12. The reason they said that date, I believe, is because that's the date that the the Wuhan Institute of Virology database went offline.
Speaker 2:So we know September 12 is, like, the last date, based on what major Murphy said, it was probably in August. But then you look at what Trump did with with some of the moves he made right around that time frame. It's it's it's almost mind blowing. September 10, he fired John Bolton as the national security adviser, which remember that role is the lead adviser for our national biodefense strategy. And it's also later on, about a year later, becomes the the chair of the committee that implemented Devolution.
Speaker 2:Okay? So that's a big role. Fire John Bolton. Eight days later on September 18, he puts Robert O'Brien in that into that role, and he's a a key player. I've talked about this throughout the series.
Speaker 2:He's a key player in Devolution. And then the very next day after that, he issues I mean, this it's just crazy at the time of this. He issues executive order thirteen eight eight seven, which is called modernizing influenza vaccines to promote national security and public health. So the timing of that is just it's it's too convenient. There's no way he he gets rid of John Bolton, puts in Robert O'Brien to this key key role, and then the very next day releases this executive order that has to do with specifically influenza vaccines.
Speaker 2:And this is all around the time that COVID supposedly leaked out. Okay? So there's when you look into this executive order even further, it it gets even more interesting because the whole thing is about, you know, modernizing vaccines and how how we study them, how we distribute them, everything. But there's a specific sections in there. One is it creates a a task force and it's co chaired by the secretary of defense and the secretary of health and human services.
Speaker 2:So this task force is basically in charge of modernizing our vaccines and and whatnot. But just keep those two positions in mind. So I'll talk about them here shortly. But then also what it did is it it it gave broad authority to the department of defense and the secretary of defense to do their own military research and modernizing of vaccines too. So not only was it was there a task force created to help, you know, publicly and public the public sector private sector do their own vaccine stuff, but it also did it privately within the military.
Speaker 2:And, again, that's huge because we found out in this December that the Department of Defense was secretly working on their own vaccine for COVID and all variants. Nobody knew about it. There's over 2,500 people at Walter Reed working on this thing according to the article, and it it never leaked, which tells me it it was definitely a white hat operation because that just doesn't happen if if it's you you know what I mean? But but yeah. So it's it's just huge.
Speaker 2:And then you you go into what operation warp speed actually is. Like, if you look at the actual operation warp speed plan, in there, says that it's a partnership between the Department of Defense and the Department of Health and Human Services. So okay. So the same two groups that were in the executive order thirteen eight eight seven doing the task force, they're the same two that are in charge of operation warp speed. And their goal with operation Warp Speed is to support the development, manufacturing, and distribution of vaccines.
Speaker 2:So they were all about making sure that these vaccines from the private sector companies got to market as quickly as possible. So that right there, I mean, it cut all the red tape, and it it threw off the deep state timeline. Like you were talking about, you know, we could have been locked down for five, ten, fifteen years. Our department of defense and secretary of health and homeland security made sure that that wasn't the case. They got these things to market as quickly as possible while working on their own actually, you know, actually successful vaccine behind the scenes.
Speaker 2:So it's it's just it's crazy that the counterbalance that this that's happening here with the story. I mean, on publicly, one thing's happening and privately, this it's like this big operation that's going on. And then now all this truth is coming out about about COVID that we've been lied to by the mainstream media, we've been lied to by our health industry, we've been lied to by big pharma. And did you see in in the Major Murphy documents, there was even a little clip in there where the files that were released by Project Veritas, they weren't even in there until July. Like, this is a public folder with no documents in it.
Speaker 2:All of sudden, middle July, it just the files appear. And then now those files are with the the Marine Corps Intelligence Activity. That's like a group, a subsector of Marine Corps Intelligence. And the group that oversees them is the Defense Intelligence Agency, which is the military's branch of of intelligence. And that's where, like, the whole defector went.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's just too much coincidences here to to ignore. You you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Well, I think what's also interesting is that, you know, with Trump's recent rally in Arizona, you know, you know, I I, you know, kinda dug into a few different episodes on on why is Trump pushing this? Because I've also I've interviewed a lot of doctors, and, you know, there's a different narrative going out than what we can talk about with YouTube than the whole idea it's safe and effective. Right?
Speaker 1:And but, you know, one of the one of the stances I had was that, look, I think that Trump is is our leader. And he's, I believe, really trying to lead the the people that believe in freedom and the constitution to where they need we need to go to get rid of this scourge of the the darkness that's suspended upon our country since, you know, quite a long time ago. And but if you look at how he's responded to these things, it's like, look, as, you know, we we the people have to let him know we have to talk. We have to give him feedback. So I don't think that it's good if we're just like, okay, just let Trump do whatever he wants to do, and we just trust the plan and be quiet.
Speaker 1:And I think it's important that we're also raising our voices because he's watching. Right? And that's one thing that Cliff the point that Cliff Hine made is that he's a social engineer. He he is so calculated with his speech, and I believe that. As much as it seems like he just gets angry and tweets whatever he wants to, I really think that he's so calculated with his speech, his tweets, and everything he says.
Speaker 1:So if you look at the Arizona rally, he didn't once mention pushing the jab. And in fact, it was the first time that I've seen him. He came out really, really strong against mandates. He also came out really strong against anything with our children. And again, he didn't come into it specifically.
Speaker 1:Right? But he came out and he said, our children have strong immune systems, leave them alone. And I think what that was, I think that that was him communicating to his base. And that was them saying to his base, the people that were getting upset with him, he's saying, look, like, I know what you're I know what you're thinking. I'm on your side.
Speaker 1:Trust me.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's his whole campaign speech, I mean, he he didn't necessarily come out and talk about the vaccines specifically. He didn't say, you know, you should get your vaccines, which I thought was interesting. But I think Cliff makes a good point about a lot of what Trump doesn't says it's all social engineering. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:It's it's trying to gauge what's going on and and read it. But but, yeah, it's it's almost like his tune switched because just in December, he with O'Reilly and even early was it early January too? Don't remember, but he was he was very pro vaccine. Get your jab. I got my booster, which that's interesting too because I'll I'll make this point.
Speaker 2:He he supposedly got COVID in October. Right? And then it came out as reported that him and Melanie got vaccinated in January. And then in October of twenty twenty one, he says that if you've gotten COVID, you don't need the vaccine. And then, like, a month later, he's talking about, you know, get the vaccine, get your booster.
Speaker 2:Like, all that stuff doesn't make sense. So there's there's so much going on behind the scenes that, again, it's I think it's all social engineering. It's it's it's political. It's strategic. There's there's a lot more going on than the surface level what we see every day.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Now, you know, one, I wanna shift topics a little bit. And so we've got this for the folks watching, we're gonna do about a little more than ten minutes or so more before we head over to the do the q and a on Rise TV. So just giving you a heads up with that. But, you know, something that a point that you've made in in your series, which I think is very, very important is that you said that, you know, it's really a two pronged stretch.
Speaker 1:It is what Trump and the military and his supporters can do at his level, but there's also We the People. And and I and I really believe that. And I believe that, you know, there's a lot of people that they say, look, you know, don't waste your energy on devolution because it's gonna distract people and make you just want to sit back and, you know, enjoy the show and all that. And I think that that's the wrong answer. I think that, to me, you should look at that if you believe there's things happening, it should encourage you that it's almost like if you're stepping into a fight, if you know there's actually someone else fighting with you, it should embolden you to fight even harder.
Speaker 1:It shouldn't make you say, okay, wow, they're fighting, so I'm gonna sit back and relax. But it is something that that I've I've considered, and I wanna hear your thoughts on this is that, you know, I think that we've looked at this, we said, well, devolution means that Trump will be back in, you know, at a certain time, whether it's, you know, 2022, whether it's, say, after the midterms or wherever. But, know, there's probably it's actually thought when I've looked back and I've seen what's been happening in America, and I see all the the people getting involved in politics, all the America First candidates stepping up, the support that they're getting, I'm witnessing the American people taking back this country. I'm witnessing even at a DC level that the the insurgents are not able to accomplish what they're going to accomplish. And so this part of me has even thought that maybe the natural course is to get to get to 2024 and is is for is for that to be the time for Trump to come back in.
Speaker 1:Because we're we're actually correcting course so much, and we're changing so many of the voting laws and, you know, ensure integrity that maybe part of his role and part of devolution is actually enabling our country to get to that next step is to protect us, and to give a chance to level the playing field between We The People and the Deep State, you know, during this four year period. Now, of course, I'm not saying that like, okay, I'm gonna sit back until then. But to me, like, as I've looked at it, it's like maybe that's even a possibility that, you know, he's really allowing us to step up as we, the people, and reclaim the country.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And so so, yeah, there's a few parts of that. So I call it the devolution sandwich. K? It's it's a two part operation.
Speaker 2:Trump Trump and his team, they're gonna take care of everything from the top down. And, you know, us, we, the people, we need to take back our government from the bottom up. And if if we don't do our part, what's the point of him doing his? You know what I mean? So, yeah, where where we meet in the middle is the devolution sandwich.
Speaker 2:And so I do agree with you. I you know, we've seen Trump walked away, and he was, like, dead silent for, like, two months. We we didn't hear from him. And it was, like, we're almost abandoned. Nobody knew what was going on.
Speaker 2:We were all scared. But a lot of people are like, k. Well, this enough of this. I'm gonna get involved and start start taking things back, and that's what we need to be doing. And I agree with you.
Speaker 2:I think I think knowing that Trump is still fighting for us on one end encourages us to do our part. So I do think a big part of what we need to do right now is not just, you know, take back our government at the local level and and ensure election integrity, but we also need to be waking up the people on the left because I think that's a big thing that we're waiting for is is for more people to wake up. But yeah. Yeah. You know, I I I see what you're saying about, you know, we technically could go to 2024 with with with devolution.
Speaker 2:Mean, there is no end date to devolution. You know, it says minimum thirty days and that says short, mid, and long term planning goals. And so I I see what you're saying. I I think that could be true, but I I still don't see how we could have a fair election in 2022. I don't think enough has happened for election integrity.
Speaker 2:I don't think we have fair elections in 2022 unless we've actually fixed 2020. And so that's the part of me that believes that Trump will come back prior to to 2022 is and he's even said it. He said it multiple times. I mean, there you know, we can't have 2022 or 2024 until we fix 2020. We gotta return the diamonds.
Speaker 2:He's made a lot of comments about how the Supreme Court has yet to see any evidence. And and honestly, we still haven't seen a single county or state come out and show true audit results. We're still waiting on that, and that was a big thing I talked about back in when Arizona was coming forward. Was really excited about Arizona because I thought, you know, all we need is one of these states to put forth the true audit results. You know, how many legal vote votes did Biden have?
Speaker 2:How many did Trump have? That's all the authority I mean, Trump would need to show, okay. Well, there's the real vote and here's the foreign interference. And we still haven't seen that. I think it's it's this is all timed for for the right time.
Speaker 2:I mean, you only have one opportunity to pull off something like this. So I think that's kind of the last bit of evidence we see. And then whether it's, you know, Arizona, Wisconsin, somebody's gonna end up decertifying and taking this to the Supreme Court. I think that's where this ends.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And and those are those are good points. And and, I've I've I like exploring different ideas of what could happen, but I you know, most of that, I I'm in the same page with that. I do think that, you know, again, as we're entering into February, what happens in February, '1 of the most significant shifts in in control of the narrative is Truth Social. And so Trump rolling out Truth Social, his his technology media group.
Speaker 1:Because even if, you know, if you look back at, let's say, November of last year and or sorry, 2020. Gosh, it's been over a year now. Yeah. It's like so much of what allowed that to happen. Of course, you have the machines, you have the the mail in, you have all that stuff.
Speaker 1:But if if the narrative and it will through big tech, social media, mainstream media, if it wasn't so tightly controlled, like what would have happened if Fox actually stood up for what was right? You know what I mean? So all it would have taken was a little bit. So that's why, again, I agree as we approach 2022, we have to fix 2020. But I actually think one of the biggest things we have to fix about 2020 is the enemy's control over the narrative.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Because that's one of their greatest tools and it it align them to get with whatever they want to get away with. But, you know, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2:No. Go go ahead. You're
Speaker 1:I'll just say that yeah. So one thing before we hop over to Rise TV for the q and a, you mentioned the importance of waking up the people that are still deceived by the the propaganda. How this is something that I I also believe very strongly about, and I talk a lot about this. But from your perspective, and your experience, what is the best way? Like, what are the tools that we can use to wake up our friends, family, coworkers that that still are lost with this?
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's a good question. I mean, it's it's it's not easy, but you you just gotta get them to question question things. Like, you don't have to try to force it down. I mean, if you try to force anything on anybody, they're gonna, it's just a turn off for everybody.
Speaker 2:You know I mean? They're gonna turn and run. But if you just subtly, you know, plant the seeds and get them questioning things like, you know, ask them, k, does it make sense that gas prices are so high or, you know, why are the the the shelves starting to empty? Like, is Biden about to get us into war with Ukraine and Russia? I mean, just start asking these questions like and and this is happening everywhere.
Speaker 2:People are starting to question things. There's there's a poll I saw from I think Axios Axios put it out, but the voters were asked actually, I should almost find it. It something, but there's a nine point swing in people who consider themselves Republican over Democrat, and it happened in the last year. It's, like, the biggest swing in history. And Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's an it's a nine percentage point swing. And that's that's huge. I mean and that's a fake poll. I mean, the polls are fake. It's just part of the it's another branch of the the fake mainstream media.
Speaker 2:But but that's a huge number. And then you look at Joe Biden's polls in general, those are also fake, but they're so low. They can't even they can't even prop up the fake polls. It's just people are starting to question things and wake up, but now it's just a matter of giving them the truth. So not only do you have to start questioning things, but you need to get the the truth revealed, and that's where truth social, I think, comes into play.
Speaker 2:Because right now, our side is still struggling to reach half the population. And so even if the mainstream media is kinda destroying their own narratives, we still gotta be able to get the right narratives out there. And that's why I do think truth social is gonna be such a big weapon for for everything moving forward. It's a huge part of this.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's a very, very good point. So alright. So, folks, we're now gonna hop over onto Rise TV to, you know, do do a q and a where you can ask your questions. Some of you have have asked some questions already, which I've been, you trying to keep aside for you to ask, Patel.
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Speaker 2:Devolution.link. Yep. Devolution.link. That's where all my my content is.
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Speaker 1:I'm gonna go ahead and end the streams. So let's start with just kind of hop off of Facebook. Thank you everybody so much for joining us today.