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Holiday Skincare Tips: Managing Skin During Seasonal Festivities with Dr. Zain
Welcome to Skinside Out, where Science meets Beauty! In this episode, Dr. Zain, Heather, and Courtney delve into the effects of holiday indulgences on skin health. They discuss common issues like dehydration, rashes, and breakouts resulting from festive foods, alcohol, and new products. Learn practical tips for mitigating these effects, including the importance of hydration, sleep, and proper skincare routines. Join us for expert advice on how to keep your skin glowing during the holiday season and kick off the new year with a fresh, youthful appearance. Tune in and keep your skin radiant, even through the holiday chaos!
00:00 Introduction to Holiday Skin Challenges
03:08 Impact of Alcohol on Skin
08:26 Sugar's Effect on Skin Health
13:11 The Importance of Sleep for Skin
14:11 Recognizing Signs of Edema and Swelling
14:34 Navigating Holiday Parties and Sleep Deprivation
16:10 Post-Party Skincare Rescue Tips
17:47 The Benefits of Infrared Saunas and Hydrating Facials
18:43 Rapid Fire Skincare Questions
20:50 Holiday Skincare Precautions and Final Thoughts
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Welcome to Skinside Out, where science meets beauty, the ultimate dermatology podcast! Dive deep into the fascinating world of skin health with expert insights, evidence-based discussions, and myth-busting truths. Each episode explores the medical, cosmetic, and surgical aspects of dermatology, while keeping you informed about trending skincare topics. Whether you’re a skincare enthusiast, medical professional, or just curious about how to achieve your best skin, Skinside Out is your go-to resource for staying informed and inspired.
33 Skinside Out - Hangovers, Sugars, & The Skin
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Welcome to Skin Side Out where Science meets Beauty. I'm your host Dr. Zane, with Heather and Courtney. So we're in the middle of the holidays. It's a time for gathering with our family, our friends, um, and really celebrating the season. But it's also a time when, you know, our skin can go outta whack and there's a lot of celebration comes a lot of indulgence.
[00:00:51] Dr. Zain: So, you know, things such as sugar, you know, the things that we're eating. Alcohol, all these things can play a role with our skin. So we're gonna do a deep dive on what the holiday does to our skin and how we can prevent it. And if we're also dealing with issues from the holidays, how we can improve it. So let's get right into it.
So what do we see during the holidays with our skin?
[00:01:14] Courtney: It's funny. I feel like we see definitely a lot of dehydration in the skin. Yeah, I think people, um. Indulging in things like late night parties. Mm-hmm. Uh, lots of sweets, alcohol, um, and the dry
[00:01:28] Heather: climate doesn't really help either. Yeah. It just makes it worse.
[00:01:31] Courtney: Yeah. That's like the extra factor on top. Um, what's interesting though, too sometimes that I've noticed is sometimes, um. I've felt like patients have even developed sensitivities or rashes, for example, um, we had a patient who, um, had this rash on her face and we ended up finding out it was related to like all the holly that was being hung.
Mm-hmm. And so I just think even sometimes outside things that we don't normally use throughout the year. Um, I think about those like cinnamon, um, brooms or whatever, too. Mm-hmm. I think sometimes those play a factor. Um, around the holiday season, just introducing our skin to things we're not used to.
[00:02:06] Dr. Zain: Also with new cosmetics, like you wanna look good for the parties you're using makeup products you may have not used before.
Mm-hmm. Um, perfumes, other scents. Um, and just also, you know, just getting exposure to like certain foods that you don't normally indulge in. Mm-hmm. And you know, your skin can react to it.
[00:02:25] Heather: And I think for a lot of people too, for those who drink alcohol, I feel like cocktails and drinks are a. More of a popular social thing.
Yeah. Especially around the holidays when you're with people. Um, but then also like the sweets. Um, there's a lot of baked goods from Thanksgiving to New Year's. Oh yeah. So we're kind of right in the brunt of it.
[00:02:45] Dr. Zain: Yeah.
[00:02:46] Courtney: Yeah. And I feel like we all, um. This is definitely not gonna be a podcast where we're like, don't indulge.
Um, because I think we all hear indulge in different ways. Yeah. Dr. Sain loves his sweets. Mm-hmm. And I think Heather loves her wine. Yeah. And I love a cocktail, so it's just about moderating and figuring out how to, yeah. Handle your skin after.
[00:03:08] Dr. Zain: Absolutely. So let's first start off with alcohol, because that's a big part of the holidays.
So I personally don't drink any alcohol, but, um, I know that many of my friends and colleagues do. So let's talk about how alcohol affects our skin and how we can kind of help reduce the effects that it has.
[00:03:30] Heather: Um, I think to begin with, and most people know this, alcohol is, um, very dehydrating. It's a diuretic.
So, um, it kind of makes me think back to like college days where you're like, don't open the flood gate because, you know, it'll just make you, um, lose a lot more water. And then in turn, you know, you'll wake up the next morning a lot more dry and dehydrated.
[00:03:54] Courtney: Like when you're reaching for that water, like when you wake up in the morning Yeah.
You're like searching around. You're so dehydrated.
[00:04:01] Dr. Zain: Yeah. And that often leads to headaches too, right?
[00:04:03] Courtney: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of inflammation, puffiness. I always feel like I'm incredibly puffy the day after I've been drinking. Um, just a little bit of like swelling in the cheek area and like bloated, you know, appearance.
[00:04:13] Dr. Zain: Mm-hmm. Yeah. It affects a lot of our rosacea prone patients. Mm-hmm. So we see a lot of. Flushing redness because alcohol can dilate the blood vessels. Um, so for those who have the predisposition for rosacea, I mean, their rosacea often flares up during this time. It's hard to control. They're getting breakouts as well, new blood vessels forming, and it can be, you know, pretty uncomfortable.
[00:04:36] Heather: Mm-hmm. And it can affect your sleep, um, pretty well too. So, um, it actually decreases your REM sleep, so. Mm-hmm. You'll probably wake up in the morning feeling and looking like you got less sleep and your skin hasn't had that quality, um, repair time.
[00:04:55] Dr. Zain: And, you know, you love your cocktails cornea, you love that.
Um, there's a lot of sugar in those cocktails. It
[00:05:01] Courtney: depends, depends what you're drinking. Okay. I personally love a seltzer water, no sugar, um, and vodka, no. But I, I do think being mindful of what you are mixing with, you know, a lot of people do like, especially this time of year, like cranberry juice and mm-hmm.
Um. That is full of sugar. Um, definitely some of the, um, different, even mocktails I'm seeing nowadays, just the amount of sugar that's in there. So I think just being mindful of what you're drinking. I even think back to wine, how for so long we thought, oh, it's okay. One, two glasses. It's an antioxidant. But even the sugar that's in wine too.
Can really disrupt the skin. So I think just being mindful of what you are drinking and trying to cut out some of the, like the juices, the extra sodas, the sugary stuff, and maybe just switch to like a soda water.
[00:05:45] Dr. Zain: Yeah. And then we know that the liver, um, processes, alcohol detoxifies it, but it can place a burden on the liver as well and can help.
Well, it can reduce the detoxification process from other, you know, substances that we, our body needs to get rid of. So that can cause inflammation, cause, you know, delayed release of these toxins. So, something to think about. I mean, recent studies have shown that there is actually no safe amount of alcohol.
There, um, is no health benefit. Like I know the resveratrol and all those, you know, benefits that we, you know, used to tout. Mm-hmm. Um, they've kind of been disproven. So just something to mine. Not to be a downer, but ,
[00:06:27] Courtney: yeah. I don't drink for it's health. I drink for fun.
[00:06:32] Heather: I think too, going back to like the detoxification, if your body is.
Focused and prioritizing detoxifying. The alcohol is not detoxifying other things too. And then stuff can get backed up and, um, I think very easily show on the skin.
[00:06:50] Dr. Zain: Yeah.
[00:06:50] Courtney: Here's my pro tips. If you're gonna drink, if you're having a night out number one B12, you'll thank me later. Be complex B12, B12, and be complex.
Oh.
[00:06:59] Dr. Zain: Mm-hmm.
[00:07:00] Courtney: It's, yeah. Life changing. You take, uh, be complex before you start drinking. Mm-hmm. Your life will be changed. Number two, water. Mm-hmm. Lots of water for every drink you have. You should be having one glass of water, which seems a little crazy, but you just gotta do it. Just force yourself. Ideally
[00:07:15] Heather: with electrolytes.
[00:07:16] Dr. Zain: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
[00:07:17] Courtney: And three. Put a water next to your bed for when you wake up quenched.
[00:07:25] Dr. Zain: I do think that antioxidants can be helpful, so just remember to incorporate those into, you know, your diet and your routine. I think you'll be. Much better off. A lot of people are relying on these IVs
[00:07:38] Courtney: mm-hmm.
[00:07:38] Dr. Zain: That incorporate a lot of those, you know, B vitamins and other hydration and electrolytes to make you feel better pretty quickly.
So those hangover IVs, um, they can be helpful, but if you take some preventative steps, you may not need to.
[00:07:53] Courtney: Yeah. They even make little patches. Um. Drinking pack.
[00:07:57] Heather: Oh, what?
[00:07:58] Courtney: Yeah, it's like, it's a vitamin patch and you put it on and um, and that's how I found out about the B complex is that it has it in there and it's supposed to help mitigate some of those, uh, hangover symptoms.
It is helpful. Interesting.
[00:08:10] Dr. Zain: Yeah, I mean, studies have shown that, um, even moderate amounts of drinking can increase oxidative markers in the skin and, you know, cause inflammation. So it does linger and cause, you know, damage to the skin too. Mm-hmm.
[00:08:24] Courtney: Yeah.
[00:08:25] Dr. Zain: All right, so let's go on to my favorite section
[00:08:31] Courtney: from, from one guilty pleasure
[00:08:33] Dr. Zain: to another.
Yeah. So yeah, I definitely have a sweet tooth, um, as my colleagues can attest to. Uh, but I've been better.
[00:08:41] Courtney: Yes,
[00:08:41] Dr. Zain: I have been better. I used to,
[00:08:42] Courtney: yeah.
[00:08:43] Dr. Zain: Yeah.
[00:08:44] Courtney: There's
[00:08:44] Dr. Zain: days, it depends what what's brought in.
[00:08:48] Courtney: Yeah. Right. What treats are there.
[00:08:50] Dr. Zain: But yeah, I mean, we all know that sugar, um, obviously is a necessary component to our diet.
Um, carbohydrates are important. Um, energy source. However, a lot of these sugars that we see in processed foods, um, have a high glycemic index, um, causes insulin spikes and can lead to a lot of glycation, um, damage. Um, so these molecules, um, kind of get attached to other, you know, molecules in our body and can lead to inflammation so that causes damage to our skin and other organs.
So that's how sugar, um, can really. Cause a lot of problems for us, especially those who are diabetic, um, and who have prolonged high levels of sugar can have a lot of damage and eventually lead to complications.
[00:09:40] Heather: Mm-hmm. And specifically too, how it kind of affects the skin, the, with the glycation that is targeting collagen and elastin and creates more advanced glycation end products.
And that can lead to like. Your skin feeling stiff or dull, or noticing more fine lines than you used to.
[00:10:00] Dr. Zain: I mean, in collagen estin, that's. Our support system, right. And, uh, keeps us looking youthful. And when we get it degraded by these glycation products, I mean, it's diminishing that reserve and we start looking older.
Um, it prematurely ages us, so it's something that we wanna be mindful of.
[00:10:18] Courtney: Yeah, I think a lot of patients also struggle with acne around the holidays. I think stress being one of them. Um, but I think also the, yeah. Sugary foods and the high glycemic foods. I mean, even you think about Thanksgiving, Christmas, um, you know, all of your like starchy things like mac and cheese, green casserole, cornbread.
So, um, I think just being mindful of the potential breakouts that can come along, um, with that as well.
[00:10:43] Dr. Zain: Yeah. And it can also affect the microbiome of your gut. Um, so. Sugar has a lot of effects and it can actually encourage, um, the bad bacteria in our gut to overgrow and kind of overpower and cause an imbalance with the good bacteria in our gut, which also leads to inflammation and can cause issues with digestion as well.
[00:11:06] Heather: So things to kind of be mindful of if you feel like your sugar intake has been a little bit higher, try balancing with, um, things that can minimize that spike in blood sugar. Mm-hmm. So like protein, making sure you're drinking plenty of water. Mm-hmm. Fiber also helps too, um, make sure you're getting some great antioxidants, whether that's, um, internally or orally, but also using topicals to help minimize the oxidative stress too.
[00:11:34] Dr. Zain: Absolutely. And then we had mentioned like high glycemic index foods. Can we give some examples so our audience knows what to avoid?
[00:11:43] Heather: Um, so I think very classically it's like candy or sweets.
[00:11:47] Dr. Zain: Yeah. Cookies for
[00:11:47] Courtney: Santa
[00:11:48] Dr. Zain: soda.
[00:11:49] Heather: Yeah. Um, you could easily google like, um, low glycemic index foods mm-hmm. And foods to be mindful of and to prioritize.
But even some fruits, I mean, fruit is great. Mm-hmm. And it's natural sugar, but there are certain fruits that can increase the blood sugar more quicker than others.
[00:12:08] Dr. Zain: Yeah.
[00:12:09] Courtney: I think going back to moderation, I know something that's been helpful for me even recently, um, is just kind of. Allowing myself to eat, you know, a few bites of what I want and get that, you know, taste of what I'm looking for, and then being able to put it down.
I have um, I have a goodberries ice cream right now in my freezer, and like each night I'll have like one or two bites and I'm like, all right, I got my sweets, and then just put it back in the freezer.
[00:12:34] Dr. Zain: Yeah, I can't always have that willpower,
[00:12:37] Courtney: self control.
[00:12:40] Dr. Zain: Yeah. Um, so I think that, you know, also sugar is tied with our sleep as well.
Like we see this constant, um, you know, relationship between sleep and our skin and, you know, if we're not getting adequate sleep because of things that our diets such as high sugar content, um, that ultimately affects our skin quality. Mm-hmm.
All right, so moving on, like along the lines of sleep. So these late nights, irregular hours, um, and just not getting. Enough adequate sleep. How does that affect our skin?
[00:13:15] Courtney: Yeah. I think this time of year is always so funny because all of the parties end up dude turning into this kinda like late night.
Mm-hmm. You know, I was so thankful with our holiday party, having it during lunch because I can go home Yes. And be in bed by like. 8:00 PM So, yeah. Um, but that being said, I think just, um, you know, we've talked about sleep so often on this show because I think it's so important. Um, but decreased collagen production, I mean, like Dr.
Zane's mentioned in the past, that's really your restorative time period where you are healing. Mm-hmm. And so when you're, um, having disruptions in your sleep, um, you're gonna notice that decreased, uh, collagen production, your barrier repair is gonna be, um, impaired. And then just, I feel like that dullness and that overall kind of like lackluster appearance can happen.
[00:14:00] Dr. Zain: Under eye circles. I mean,
[00:14:02] Courtney: yeah,
[00:14:02] Dr. Zain: that is a telltale sign. Mm-hmm. Um, you see more edema or swelling in that area, you see those prominent blood vessels. Mm-hmm. Um, and it's just not a good look. And it's something that, you know, really does, um, take sometimes weeks to kind of get over sometimes. Mm-hmm. Because.
It's just a deficit that you're just trying to catch up. Catch up, and it's hard to, sometimes, yeah, life gets in the way and you know, the holidays don't make it easier. I mean, you know, new Year is next week, right? Mm-hmm. And. I try not to stay up till midnight anymore. It just, it just lost its appeal. But you know those parties that you go to, I mean, you're kind of like forced to
[00:14:40] Courtney: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:14:42] Dr. Zain: You're stuck there and you had to wait for that, you know, the ball to drop.
[00:14:45] Courtney: You have kids, you can use your kids. Those,
[00:14:47] Dr. Zain: yeah. Oh, best thing about Raleigh is like. They have that little acorn drop the acorn at like seven o'clock. I'm like, yes. Yeah. Alright. Kid thing. That's, uh, midnight. Yeah. We can go home and go to sleep.
[00:14:58] Courtney: Yeah. Yeah. My parents used to tell my sister that the acorn, that it was midnight. Mm-hmm. And that the acorn dropped at midnight. So I
[00:15:06] Heather: think they have like Do you go to Yeah, we have a Go Acorn. I know they have like television, um, like broadcasting. Broadcasting of it too, where like you could. Air it at seven.
I was time, but it says that it's midnight on the screen. Yeah,
[00:15:22] Courtney: yeah. Smart.
[00:15:22] Heather: Yeah.
[00:15:23] Courtney: You have to, sometimes these kids wanna stay up past you, so
[00:15:26] Heather: Yeah. But also increasing, um, stress with lack of sleep too can just lead to inflammation. Um, more oil production, kind of going back to that, um, potential for breaking out as well.
[00:15:39] Courtney: Yeah, I think, um, something that I do. Try to prioritize is like when you have done like a lot of like parties or just a lot of events. Um, just making sure you have like one set night that you can look forward to that you know, that's gonna be your night. Uh, go to bed early, try to catch up on my sleep. Um, and just making sure you're giving yourself enough self-care and time.
[00:16:00] Dr. Zain: Yeah. All right, so we're in the holidays and we're, you know, going to parties. How do we. Rescue our skin post party. Courtney, I'm going on with you.
[00:16:13] Courtney: Wash your face. Don't sleep in your makeup. That's my number one tip. Yeah, I think it is so hard this time of year because of all of the parties and the late nights and the drinking, and you just wanna go to bed and you're exhausted.
It's cold. You don't really feel like staying up. You just wanna be like toasty in bed. Mm-hmm. Um, number one, wash your face. Um, don't sleep in your makeup. I think also, you know, increasing your water intake is so important, as we mentioned, just dehydration and even with, um, just your skin barrier. I think making sure you're drinking enough water throughout the day is so important.
That's not,
[00:16:45] Dr. Zain: that's not enough. I mean, your skin also needs topical application
[00:16:48] Courtney: and moisturizer. Oh yeah. We'll get into that.
[00:16:49] Dr. Zain: Oh, okay.
[00:16:50] Courtney: Here's my, I love a recovery mask. I love a neo cutes mask, um, post like event. Um, if I'm feeling up for it that night, I will do it otherwise the next morning. But a neo acutes post-recovery mask is key.
[00:17:07] Dr. Zain: Oh, I like an HA serum with some mm-hmm. Aquaphor on my lips.
[00:17:11] Courtney: Mm-hmm.
[00:17:11] Heather: Mm-hmm.
[00:17:12] Dr. Zain: If I'm hydrated.
[00:17:12] Heather: Yeah. And skip your retinol or retinoid if you Yeah, if you need to or if you feel dehydrated.
[00:17:18] Dr. Zain: Yeah. If your skin's feeling rough, just give us some TLC.
[00:17:21] Courtney: Yeah. Eye
[00:17:22] Dr. Zain: creams. Keep your dental
[00:17:23] Courtney: I think are so important this time of year.
[00:17:25] Dr. Zain: Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, by the time like, you know, the holidays are over, you can kind of get back into that routine, you know, get that new year and new glow
[00:17:33] Courtney: mm-hmm.
[00:17:34] Dr. Zain: Um, into your life. And I think that you'll be good to go.
[00:17:37] Courtney: Yeah. Other things that I think sometimes we don't think of as being helpful, but part of that kind of.
Taking care of yourself in the season. Um, I know Heather and I last year did a membership to an infrared sauna nearby. Mm-hmm. Um, and I feel like that was incredibly helpful. Mm-hmm. It helped with our sleep. Mm-hmm. It helped with, I think just, um, being able to like relax and. I felt better. Do you think I should go
[00:18:02] Dr. Zain: in for the office?
[00:18:03] Heather: Yes.
[00:18:03] Courtney: Yeah, I do. Um,
[00:18:06] Dr. Zain: not for you.
[00:18:09] Courtney: That and the, the red light bed, um, both of those we can get.
[00:18:12] Heather: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:18:14] Courtney: Um, so I think things like that and then even, um, like hydrating facials for that time of year. I mean, if you know that. Um, I think a lot of people tend to prep for events, but they don't think about the aftercare so much.
Yeah, that's good. So maybe if, you know, you have a party over the weekend, schedule a facial on that Monday or Tuesday to add some hydration back into the skin.
[00:18:32] Heather: Yeah.
[00:18:32] Dr. Zain: , Do we wanna do some rapid fire questions or,
[00:18:35] Courtney: yeah.
[00:18:36] Dr. Zain: You'll offer it? Yeah. Okay. So, Heather, does alcohol really cause acne?
[00:18:42] Heather: I think so.
Um, I think just with, um, like the sugar with any sort of like oxidative stress, those can probably contribute.
[00:18:52] Dr. Zain: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I definitely see people breaking out, especially with who are acne prone to begin with or Yeah. Have rosacea see some flares. Yeah. Courtney, is it okay to do a peel after a night out?
[00:19:05] Courtney: It depends. I'd probably do a glycolic. I don't know that I would do a TCA or something that I want to be more performative. Okay. Maybe a little glycolic. A little 20%.
[00:19:13] Heather: Hmm.
[00:19:14] Dr. Zain: Okay. Refresh. So we know that you like the neo cutest mask. What about you? What do you like after a post holiday party?
[00:19:22] Heather: I do like the Neocutis.
Um, I think the, the be post recovery mask mm-hmm. That we have is really nice too.
[00:19:30] Dr. Zain: Yeah. Just like something that has a lot of moisture. Yeah. That ha mm-hmm. Um, hyaluronic acid is a really nice touch.
[00:19:37] Heather: Mm-hmm.
[00:19:37] Courtney: And you know what I'm a sucker for? Um, good molecules makes these little caffeine eye patches. Oh, I love those things.
Yeah. I don't know. They do anything. They feel so nice.
[00:19:49] Dr. Zain: Yeah. Yeah. I've actually tried the papai ones. Um, for the men's skin hair. I like them.
[00:19:53] Courtney: Okay.
[00:19:54] Dr. Zain: Yeah.
[00:19:55] Courtney: Cool.
[00:19:56] Dr. Zain: All right. So corny. Can sugar cause undereye, puffiness?
[00:20:00] Courtney: I would say yes, because it is increasing your swelling and, um, that edema that we talked about.
[00:20:08] Dr. Zain: Yeah.
[00:20:08] Courtney: So yeah,
[00:20:09] Dr. Zain: that's why I thought caffeine and some of these, um. Topical products can be helpful 'cause it constricts the blood vessels and then reduces swelling. Mm-hmm. Things like that.
[00:20:18] Courtney: Mm-hmm.
[00:20:20] Dr. Zain: Okay. Heather, how soon after a hangover should I use my retinol again?
[00:20:26] Heather: I think it depends. I think, um, did you hydrate?
Um, but I think. Generally, I would say like 48 hours for most people.
[00:20:37] Dr. Zain: Got it. And then I know that skincare is a very popular gift, um, with the holidays. Do you recommend waiting till after the holidays to kind of experiment with new skincare products, or do you think that it's okay to kind of maybe, you know, start them right around the holidays around parties and things like that?
[00:20:55] Heather: I don't know. I feel like everybody's skin's different. Mm-hmm. But like, mm-hmm. For me, if I'm changing a lot of different things at once, like, you know, you've got more sweetss, maybe more alcohol, and um, I think. All of that can contribute, and if I'm making those changes because it's holidays and also changing my skincare routine, I think my skin freaks out a little bit more.
[00:21:18] Dr. Zain: Yeah.
[00:21:18] Courtney: I have a one product two week rule where I'll only add in one different product for two weeks because at that point then you don't know what is breaking you out, especially around the holiday season, like you mentioned, when you have all these very. Different factors playing into it. Mm-hmm. Um, so one product every two weeks if you're gonna change something.
Yeah. That way, you know, if you're having some kind of issue.
[00:21:38] Dr. Zain: Yeah.
[00:21:38] Courtney: That's it.
[00:21:39] Dr. Zain: And I don't think that social settings are the right time to necessarily change things up because you just never know how your skin's gonna react. Yeah. I mean, people have sensitive skin. There's all sorts of products you can develop, uh, dermatitis.
Mm-hmm. Um, in response to some ingredients. Um, sometimes they're too drying, doesn't suit your skin type, so kind of wait till January for that.
[00:22:00] Courtney: Yeah. And be mindful of. When you're getting your, um, procedures done, because I think people forget sometimes. I have had this happen to me once where a patient, I'm mid peel, mid TCA 20.
Mm-hmm. And I said, okay, you'll start peeling in two days. You know, you'll peel for about a week. She goes, oh crap. What's next week? And I told her the date. She said, I have a holiday party at this point. She's already frosted. I can't take the pill off.
[00:22:25] Heather: I had a patient earlier who, um. She came in for a laser and we were doing most of her laser on her legs, like for spider veins.
But she had a little telangiectasia, a little superficial blood vessel on her face and she was like, do you think we could treat that? I was like, yeah, no problem. Um, and then she was like, well, you know, will it be fine by my engagement photos on Friday, like two days later?
[00:22:48] Dr. Zain: Oh,
[00:22:48] Heather: yeah. And I was like, oh, we should probably skip that for today.
[00:22:53] Dr. Zain: Yeah. So I think that the holidays are a really fun, festive time. I think we should all enjoy ourselves and really kind of get into the spirit of the season, and I think that we should all have some fun. Indulge, but I think moderation is key. I think that's the key in life in general. So, I mean, I do think that you should enjoy yourselves, um, relax, have fun, create some great memories, but remember some of the tips that we've discussed during this, um, podcast episode, and hopefully it'll serve you well, um, as you head into the new year.
So hopefully you found this informative and can help you avoid some issues, um, around your holiday parties, but you know, hopefully you have a great 2026. We look forward to seeing you in the new year. Until next time, skin side out, out.