Rollback Is the Wrong Word: What F1 Teaches Golf About Regulation

What if golf stopped calling it a rollback and started calling it what it really is: normal regulation of the 

In this episode of The Bag Drop: Untold Stories in Golf, our host duo of Matt and Dr. Kevin("The Professor") uses Formula 1 as a revealing mirror for golf. Starting with F1’s sweeping 2026 changes, they ask a bigger question: why is one sport willing to consistently regulate boldly for the product it wants, while golf so often hesitates?

From overtaking, driver agency, and protecting Monaco, to new changes in St Andrews, Pebble, and the distance debate in pro golf, this is a conversation about stewardship, skill differentiation, and what the powers that be want their sport to look like at its highest level. Down the closing stretch, Matt and Kevin dream up some fun golf comps - including smaller club heads, a smaller ball, reduced grooves, team caps, and a deployable "bazooka" driver.

The conversation dives into:

🏎️ What F1’s 2026 regulations are really trying to do - create a better racing product with more strategy, more overtakes, and more driver input

⛳ Why "rollback" may be the wrong word - and why regulation should start with the question of what kind of golf we actually want to watch

🏛️ What Monaco can teach golf about St Andrews, Pebble, and protecting the timeless grounds of the game

🛠️ Creative golf thought experiments inspired by our friends and motor-heads 

🌱 Why non-regulation is still regulation - and what stewardship looks like when the future of the sport is on the line

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Chapters

00:00 Rollback vs. regulation
01:07 What F1 is changing for 2026
05:37 Why F1 keeps regulating
11:19 Regulation, parity, and unintended consequences
16:08 What golf can learn from F1
19:01 Why "rollback" is the wrong word
23:47 Monaco, St Andrews, and iconic venues
30:53 Golf comps for F1 rule changes
34:05 The "bazooka" driver thought experiment
41:02 Non-regulation is still regulation
44:31 Variance, leaderboards, and the product

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Founder of NewClub and our resident feel player. Matt’s junior golf career led him to the University of Akron where he met our co-host. During his junior year, Matt Studied abroad in Ireland and discovered golf societies. Subsequent trips to Scotland fed his passion for the history, ideals, and culture of accessible, affordable, and sustainable golf, a concept he would later bring to the U.S. with NewClub. Known for his interviewing style, quick wit, and compelling storytelling, Matt brings thoughtful, reflective conversations to The Bag Drop. His professional journey before NewClub included multiple leadership positions in growth-stage startups, where he managed teams responsible for more than $250 million in revenue. Matt actively gives back to the game as a Board Member of the First Tee of Akron and past chair of the Evans Scholar Foundation. Proudly based in his hometown of Akron, Ohio, Matt finds inspiration in family life with his wife, their three children, and their golf dog, Gypsy.

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The Professor

NewClub's Chief Ambassador and every golf sicko's favorite educator. Kevin is a thoughtful and deeply curious host. His studied, constructivist approach adds intellectual enrichment and balance to the show. As a professor of Math Education at the University of Georgia, Kevin's background in applied mathematics and cognitive psychology uniquely informs his insights on golf strategy and performance. Originally from Ohio, Kevin was a Division I collegiate golfer at the University of Akron, where his passion for understanding mathematical thinking began. After earning his doctorate from Arizona State University, he combined his analytical expertise with his love for golf by co-founding Golf Blueprint, an organization aimed at helping golfers optimize their games through data-driven strategies. Kevin enjoys balancing deep philosophical discussions with simple pleasures, such as indulging his sweet tooth, cheering on college football, and spending relaxed evenings with his friends, his wife, and their beloved dog, Nole.

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Matt Considine (00:01.118)
Welcome to the Bag Drop Untold Stories in Golf. I'm your host, Matt Kotsadine, here with our co-host, the Professor, Professor Sloncha. Good morning,

The Professor (00:11.749)
Happy, what is today, Tuesday? I think we're recording now. I don't know, I'm confused. We're all over the place. Gotta ask, have you ever had a concert era in your life?

Matt Considine (00:20.078)
yeah, yeah, I probably did. I would say it was in the, huh, it was probably the, the least golf years of my life. concerts filled a little bit of a void there. I've never been a huge concert goer. Like I wasn't the one organizing it, but you know, around that 20 call it. Gosh, 2010, 11, 12.

There was some good runs there, seen a lot of shows, a few festivals. What about you?

The Professor (00:52.889)
Do you have a favorite genre or anything? Favorite band to follow?

Matt Considine (00:56.299)
Yeah, you know me. mean that that did line up with some pretty decent indie rock and roll kind of coming out of college. Also, like, I don't know, I'm thinking there was the the like the Strokes, one of my favorite bands was touring with Pearl Jam and I saw them three times that year, the two of them together. It was, that was the year I'm thinking of. Stuff like that comes to mind.

The Professor (01:16.037)
Mmm.

The Professor (01:23.151)
Was it the strokes that had the beef with Black Keys? those the two that... Black Keys had beef with someone or the leads, right? I forget. I forget those are strokes or not.

Matt Considine (01:31.286)
Maybe. Yeah. I could see that, you know, a couple of Midwest guys versus the, the, the East coast New Yorkers. I could see that. What's, what about you? Or is this, is this, are you in a phase of this yourself?

The Professor (01:35.097)
musician.

The Professor (01:44.069)
Well, Claire is in her concert era now. She is all in, going to concerts started probably about a year, year and a half ago. And I think in the last month, we've, I think, added nine concerts to the docket this year. She's just burning through it once to go everywhere and see everyone. So that's like, that's what we're doing this year. A little less golf, a lot more concerts.

Matt Considine (02:09.272)
This

Matt Considine (02:13.496)
I mean, so you're going broke is what it sounds like. Is Taylor Swift, how many Taylor Swift's are on the calendar?

The Professor (02:19.997)
No, no tailors. That could be because her tour is not announced. I don't know if she's got a tour going on. I don't think she has a tour going on right now. You know, she, so no Taylor right now. A lot of Mumford and Sons. I think Claire's seen Mumford and Sons twice, three times last year. And now we've got, I think three times this year we're gonna, we're gonna see them. A little Head in the Heart action. Mount Red Rocks. Oh, we're gonna see Mumford and Madison Square Garden. That was the...

Matt Considine (02:24.85)
excuse me.

The Professor (02:46.469)
One thing, yeah, we're like, let's just go to New York and see them. Um, Chris Stapleton several times, um, old crow medicine show. Yeah. Just line them up and knock them down.

Matt Considine (02:51.949)
Hey.

I can get in on a lot of this. I thought it was gonna be some stuff I'm just not aware of. What's the most obscure that's on the calendar?

The Professor (03:02.373)
most obscure. Let's see. Definitely little Kishi Bashi. For those that haven't listened to Kishi Bashi, go dial him up. He's awesome. Spends a lot of his time in Athens. I would say that's the most obscure that we have going on. I'll go see the Lala... Chapel Road.

Matt Considine (03:20.6)
Who's the pink pony club you introduced me to before Chappell Rhone? You introduced me to that long before it hit everybody else's airways. And I was a fan before she became massive and my kids are coming home from school singing pink pony club.

The Professor (03:37.231)
Mm-hmm.

Matt Considine (03:38.99)
that's well, I'm excited for you guys. I, know, this does align with a couple of weeks ago when, we were pulling headlines and stuff we missed over the winter. And I looked at the masters and the Seeky did a little mini deep dive on Seeky. I mean, in-person experiences are up into the right. There are so many dollars flooding into sports and, and live events, more than ever. And I think partially a reaction to.

The Professor (03:57.634)
Yeah.

Matt Considine (04:08.654)
post COVID getting together with people, feeling a sense of belonging, but also, yeah, it's it's kind of the community element of like what our grandparents used to get out of church. We're kind of looking for in our interests. And yeah, there's just a feeling you get when you're at those shows, right? And that sense of being with a lot of other people, all singing the same words, it's kind of cool in that way.

The Professor (04:18.628)
Yeah.

The Professor (04:32.165)
Yeah, I do love it. mean, as I get older, the late nights, you you buy the concert tickets and the day off, you're like, oh, man, I got to make it somehow till midnight. But I saw another analysis too, somewhere talking about, you know, especially with the young, say our generation and lower, drinking is less prevalent, especially as you go younger than generation, younger than our generation. And some of that expendable income is going to concerts.

is one the areas that's going or live experiences. And it pushes back on, you know, there's been some narratives around, you know, with the lack of drinking, people are to be less social and you you need that sort of is a positive to be drinking out social, which on the surface, I buy that argument, but it misses the point of like, no, people will just replace social things with other social things, right? That can be done. It's not like,

because I'm not drinking, I'm just going to stay in my room and not leave and go socialize. It's like, no, if I replace it with something else, go into a concert, doing whatever, then you're seeing that actually coming out in the data that that's actually occurring where people are replacing some of their socializing and moving away from the alcohol centered things that are just a bar that's saying moving more towards a concert venue.

Matt Considine (05:53.971)
Yeah. And it directly speaks to the continuous growth in golf and another record year of rounds played in 25 and projections shown the same for 26. think, there's a lot of my buddies who probably spent those same concert years drinking with me at the late, staying out late and whatnot that are picking up the game of golf and finding that exactly what you described.

The Professor (06:02.063)
Yep.

The Professor (06:17.124)
Mm-hmm.

Matt Considine (06:19.994)
In, in the game speaking of, let's let's combine live events perhaps with, with the game of golf. And this is, this is just something I saw this morning as you and I were getting on and it's going to have a lot to do with our, our show today. I'll just cut to the chase. The professor and I, after some of our headlines the last few weeks, professor always tends to pull the governance. I think you were a lawyer or an attorney in past life, Kevin, you love the analysis of rules and.

regulations and changes. We were talking about, if you're a loyal listener, you know that the professor called out the fact that we pushed back again, golf's regulating bodies, pushed back the rule changes. There was some good timing for another very, very popular sport, one of the fastest scoring sports in the US right now, released all their new regulation changes for a 2026 season, and that's F1.

and the professor knows a little bit about this space. And so we thought, let's just talk about something outside of golf and see how it applies maybe to some of this debate. We all are pretty tired of, but continuously engage in around the rollback and the rules of golf and the governing bodies and the major leagues.

The Professor (07:41.807)
think that's the strategy they're taking is to make us tired of it so then we just forget about it and they just move on with status quo. That could be their strategy.

Matt Considine (07:43.138)
but my transition. go ahead.

Matt Considine (07:49.294)
We just give up. mean, yeah, that could be, that could be. What I was gonna say as my transition was, what I saw this morning was one of those companies, one of those F1 companies is in the game of golf. McLaren Golf has announced that they're gonna be coming out with a line of equipment. What do you think, what do you take of that? What do you think?

The Professor (08:14.725)
I mean, businesses like the move and strike where it's hot, right? So McLaren's not a dumb company at all. I'm not sure if they're under an umbrella company who might be above them in terms of McLaren as a company in and of itself. But hey, if you got a hot sport and they got a couple, they got at least one driver that loves the game. And a little birdie tells me there's several people inside that pit crew that love the game.

Not a super surprise to me to see some company flooding into the golf market where a lot of money is moving around, especially when some of their more notable people inside the company are quite addicted to the game.

Matt Considine (08:54.22)
Yeah, was a Porsche tried this a number of years ago and they just doing a quick search. They still have like Porsche golf apparel, no longer hard goods. They got out of hard goods, but I mean, who's the guy buying Porsche golf gear? I don't get it.

The Professor (08:59.222)
I forgot about that.

The Professor (09:15.029)
That's I don't like I mean even look at Nike moved out of the hard gear right like and just moved to just you know soft materials and shoes. Yeah interesting move. An orange orange is not a great color either so they're in terms of their company colors they're going to have to branch they're going to branch out from those to actually make some attractive gear.

Matt Considine (09:25.378)
Yeah. Interesting move. Well, I digress.

Matt Considine (09:32.942)
Yeah.

Matt Considine (09:37.782)
Yeah, I'll be more curious to hear what our friends at Tyler's think about a McLaren Golf Equipment Company. But I know you're going hit us with lot of facts. You're going to hit me with a lot of facts. I'm actually just genuinely curious to hear your insights on F1 regulation rule changes. I know you and Claire follow it closer than I, but what you got anything else for us to get us going this morning? Anything adjacent maybe?

The Professor (09:41.605)
Ha

The Professor (10:00.421)
Yeah, just getting back from a math education conference up in Alexandria, you know, spent four days just going to I know how many different talks given some talks. Obviously buzz, you know, around the academia world is a lot of conversation around AI. So just a quick tidbit from some of the interest there are in terms of the 10,000 foot view, you know, our conversations are around how do we use it viably and in useful ways, and then, you know, what's it detracting from and how can we combat that. But some pretty interesting, you know,

research starting to merge from it, that gets into it. And one of the interesting things it's showing is just its impact on critical thinking. If you think of your brain as a muscle, exercising critical thinking even on menial tasks isn't an important thing to do. But obviously one of the benefits of AI is you can offload a lot of just menial stuff to it and just say, let it take care of it. But what you're seeing there is people doing that and not looking at the output critically. And so that's diminishing just their general critical thinking ability.

by going through exercises and doing something and producing output, but never actually looking at it in a critical way. And that's actually impacting people's critical thinking abilities and their other tasks for that reason. It harkens to the, you know, how you do the smallest thing is how you do everything. If you think about from that mindset, that's the phenomenon there that, you know, if just turning your brain off because it's menial task and letting AI handle it.

you gotta be careful that you might actually be doing your brain a little bit of harm in doing that.

Matt Considine (11:33.224)
That's timely. I'm sure everybody listening is utilizing AI and some capacity, maybe all capacities and

It's a lot to digest, right? But man, that really resonates. we should do a whole episode on AI from your perspective, because all your research around studying how the human brain learns and functions, and I would love to hear more deep dive on it at some point. But that resonates, because I think, you know, do the hard thing is what I've

The Professor (12:08.495)
Mm-hmm.

Matt Considine (12:11.15)
come out of from my early experiences with AI as a small business owner, you have to use a lot of it to be more efficient now. It does increase your output, but I've definitely learned the hard way it needs to amplify the people and not replace. Because as soon as you pull that critical thinking element out of it, or some refer to it,

The Professor (12:21.253)
Mm-hmm.

The Professor (12:33.989)
Mm-hmm.

Matt Considine (12:40.374)
as taste and decision-making. I have noticed it can be bland, but it also, yeah, it dulls your thought process. And when you look at it after like, you take a couple of days away from it and then you come back to it, you're like, wait, why didn't I question that or this or the other thing? And so one thing I was talking to an older gentleman who's a very successful entrepreneur who's using the heck out of it, he was saying,

The Professor (12:53.498)
Mm-hmm.

Matt Considine (13:09.73)
You know, do the hard thing, write the draft, do the, order the book, do your own thinking first and then go to it. Don't start square one with what it's gonna feed you. That's just his perspective, but I could see your point there being a big reason to do it. It's fascinating. And it also thinks about, makes me think about golf and my golf game where

The Professor (13:12.421)
Yeah.

Matt Considine (13:38.99)
You don't make it too easy on yourself. You're not going to get better. Right. And like all the training tools that, know, I'm thinking of the, uh, the, the, the training tools that shrink the sweet spot, right. The little ball that you have to hit or, uh, the little gate on your putter, you know, um, that, is how you learn. Yes. The technology is going to help you, uh, around the margins, but one way to learn is making hard on yourself. Challengers.

The Professor (13:42.723)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

The Professor (13:51.541)
yeah.

The Professor (14:05.135)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Matt Considine (14:07.768)
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Got you some energy.

Matt Considine (14:37.634)
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to play the right ball, to play the best ball, to play the equipment that gives you confidence. That's why Titleist, they're the number one ball in golf. Professor, let's get onto the show. All right, I'm back in F1. You got me. I took a little while off, but I don't know what it was. I do think obviously I'm a basic B like everybody else out there that fell into this sport during COVID.

But I did like last year I tuned in pretty late and there was a lot of new names on the grid and that excited me. I was like, huh, what's this guy's story? And the drama, I'm a drama queen, I think when it comes to what I'm going to watch and that includes sports. So they hooked me back. yeah. And Brad Pitt being a stud with his shirt off that SOB got me in the movie. So I know you never left and I know

The Professor (15:42.661)
Mm-hmm.

Matt Considine (16:05.07)
We share some techs, threads and people that are much more avid than you. But where's your fandom on F1? Has it fainted at all? Are you excited for this season coming up?

The Professor (16:15.595)
I was super excited for the season. shouldn't say super excited. A friend of ours, Chica from Midtown said, you know, that's not an authentic phrase to use. So I should say I'm just genuinely excited for a new season. I mean, if there's one thing about F1, it is a little bit of a soap opera sort of situation between the teams, the drivers, the owners, the, you know, chief officers, the engineers. I mean, it is just a lot of mud slinging and it's just, you know,

They cycle through drivers quickly in and out. So there's always something new, just at the driver level to be excited about. This year, think the Lunar New Year just happened recently. It's the year of the, I think it's the Fire Horse might be what it is. Yeah, that, then that was our fact of the day. Well, that's relevant to this because the pink pony or the red pony for Ferrari.

Matt Considine (16:59.198)
Firehorses, you talked all about it. I people reaching out, happy Firehorse year.

The Professor (17:11.172)
It's their year. I've got my hope back. started, I mean, that's why I'm excited every year. We started out the year with hope as a Ferrari fan that this is the year, know, Prince Charles Leclerc or the goat Lewis Hamilton. They're going to get it done. They're going to bring a title back to Ferrari. This is the year it's happening. I'm ready. Rubber stamping it. We're to go one, two in the drivers championship.

Matt Considine (17:30.088)
Talk about a bit.

Talk about being basic. Isn't that just the default team for anyone that likes fast cars, the hot red one, the Lewis Hamilton, the goat is, mean, when did your fandom start with these guys?

The Professor (17:42.79)
I mean, I mean, if you said you liked fast cars, that would imply they actually have a fast car, which it's been a while since we've since we've had one of those. You know, we've had arguably one or two of the fastest drivers, you know, of the top three or four in the grid and can't deliver them a car. But that's again, changing this year. I just I don't know. Ferrari's Ferrari. I mean, it's hard when you get an F1 and especially when I got into it, Charles Leclerc was pretty fresh in his story.

Just like no one's ever said a bad word about the guy in any capacity ever. And then Carlos Sines, you know, was there, came over when we were getting into it and that just cemented Claire's love for Ferrari right there. And she's followed Carlos over to Williams, certainly. So that's why we're team Ferrari. And now we've got Lewis and we'll see this year, see if we can deliver.

Matt Considine (18:36.787)
Is it, why do you think golfers, it feels to me, and I see this inside a new club,

I see this in my text group. It feels to me that there is a synonymous fandom with not just F1, F1 maybe just being the top or pinnacle of motor racing is where a lot of the golf fans have gravitated. But why do you think it's so similar of a base of fans? It's an affluent thing, I feel like, so that's probably part of it. But why else?

The Professor (19:09.197)
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, if we remove the socioeconomic side, let's just get rid of that. that is a big contributor to it. I mean, one, like cars in general. People do. most people like golf probably like cars. And again, there's a blurring of socioeconomic aspect to that, right? If you're at a country club,

You're fluent enough to also probably start getting into cars at some point, especially later, you know, in your thirties and forties. So you might gravitate towards a sport that involves cars and engines in high precision form. I think you could make an argument for relatability. And it's in the same way. Like you're like, we play golf. The pros play golf. They play a very different game than us. pros do, but yet there's still relatability. We all drive a car.

We all probably as idiots when we're 16 years old drove our car way too fast in certain situations. I think watching the sport, you know, it's living vicariously through something. I think it's the same in the college football fandom. You live vicariously through your football team. So their winning gives you that sensation of winning a race. Watching it gives you the sensation of driving, you know, driving that car. think that's big piece of it. And then just...

Matt Considine (20:28.834)
That's interesting. Yeah, I didn't think about that.

The Professor (20:30.501)
Go frankly, those are all sort of makeshift psychology reasons. At the end of the day, the marketing that they've done since, especially COVID, the timing of Drive to Survive just occurring right at that, you know, the COVID phenomenon. You just couldn't cook it up any better for the sport. All of a sudden we're stuck indoors. You got something that's contained. It's like, I'm only committing two hours of my Sunday or Saturday night to this. That's it. We've got

Matt Considine (20:37.934)
Hm. you

The Professor (20:58.657)
everything on recording now right with YouTube TV and everything so you can fast forward through the red flags. It's just a sport set up to consume quickly and have tons of excitement throughout it. So I think that that helps it too.

Matt Considine (21:24.352)
Yeah. I.

The Professor (21:35.237)
My connection, it's my connection. it's my connection too that's going bad. Yeah, go check on her. Let me switch over to a different Wi-Fi.