Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Are We Entering A New Golden Era for CrossFit?

Every Sunday Night Carolyne Prevost, Jamie Latimer and Scott Switzer break down the weeks news in the Competitive CrossFit and Fitness space.  This week we close out CrossFit Open 25.2 and look at where we currently sit with CrossFit Open 25.3.  Will Carolyne be able to finish in the top 5 in the World?  Where will Jamie finish through all of this in her division.  The World Fitness Project makes some big announcements about what they want to accomplish. Plus anything that may come up in the chat  or through our discussion.

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what is going on everybody

welcome to sunday sunday

sunday night crossfit talk

my apologies for the late

start um if you've been

listening to the lunch show

you know a couple weeks ago

I had my debit card stolen

um and I've got all that

rectified but I forgot to

update my billing

information in stream yard

Found out today that my payment failed.

Reset everything and it

reset everything in the back end.

So I have to get all that

cleaned up in the next few days.

But we got everybody here.

They just don't have the

capabilities they normally have.

So I'm running the show tonight.

They're just going to have to talk more.

That's easy to do.

Yeah.

So we have Carolyn Prevost, Jamie Latimer.

We are here every Sunday night.

We're so glad that you're with us.

Some new people in the chat.

We have Jason, first time here.

We have some old fans, Craig, Kenneth,

Meredith Jones.

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Podcasts have been around for a while now.

With that,

we always do a little catch-up to start.

How was your guys' weekend?

Good.

I mean,

I'm glad that the Open is coming to

an end.

It's so freaking hectic for gym owners.

Another just complicated workout, right?

Changing the weights.

When it came out, I was like, really?

Last week was a shit show.

This is going to be even

more of a shit show.

Yeah,

this is not an easy one on the

affiliates at all.

Anytime there's weight

changes and it's not the

athlete that's changing weight,

that you need someone else

or you need multiple barbells,

it's just not...

an easy workout for the

affiliates to kind of close.

Like it's cause you need

more than one person.

If you want to actually like

give your shot or else

you're changing your own weights,

you're doing a bunch of stuff.

I almost wish it was

mandated change your own

weights because then that

would just be the standard.

And then that's the athletes who do it.

The problem is you, you know,

like you're good athletes

need someone to change them,

but if they're doing it,

then everyone wants their

weights changed for them.

And it's like,

it's so hard in affiliate

and like the five foot mandated, uh,

rule is so silly in this one

so silly atlantis is

exhausting three weekends

but so much fun it is so much fun

Did you guys see the meme for time?

Meme?

I don't think it was a meme.

I don't think it was intended to be.

But he did the workout in his garage,

changing weights.

They were rolling the

weights to get him out of the way.

And one of them was headed for his car.

And his wife made like the

last second save before it

hit the side of the car.

He caught it on video,

which was even cooler.

Yeah, it's crazy.

I get that sometimes like, and every time,

like sometimes I'll put even like a small,

like five or something and

it'll go all the way.

And I'm like, Oh,

I got a Velner plate just

going across the gym.

Right.

That's what we all think

about is that one Velner

scene at the games with the yoke.

Like it's just,

it's in everyone's head

that watched the games at that point.

Yep.

Like as much as much as it's

difficult on the affiliates,

I also don't like when

athletes need to change

their own weight because I

don't think that should be

part of fitness.

Like how fast you can change your weights,

all that.

Like I don't like that part,

but I get it for the open.

It's just like it's just not

something that's easy for

the affiliates to do.

Yeah, I get what you're saying.

It's funny to me because I

change them so often and

I'm used to that because it

just happens to be a part

of the game sometimes, right?

I mean,

it was part of the game at the

CrossFit Games.

Yeah,

your snatch event at the Games was

all about who could switch

their weights the fastest.

Yeah.

If you had the capacity for the lifts,

it just became that.

yeah like I'll be changing

weights at the gym and

other like newer members

I'll just be like you're so

fast at that and I'm like I

mean it it happens to play

into some workouts so like

I've learned to just be

very quick at it yeah uh

julian iford reacher is so

awesome thanks for the

recommendation this week's

both it and the pit like

have me on the edge of my

seat waiting for the

finales to come oh my gosh

they both are killing me

right now oh like literally

I'm watching reacher I'm on

the edge of my seat I could

not sit back I could not

relax and then the very end

of the pit you're like no I know

Yeah, both.

Last week too, I was like,

huge cliffhanger.

And then this week I'm like, dang it,

another cliffhanger, quit.

I know.

I know.

And now this week we've got March madness,

both the women's,

the women's tournaments

being announced as we speak right now.

Um, the men's came out about an hour ago.

Um,

so I'm sure everybody's going to be

filling out their brackets all week.

There'll be no work

accomplished at any office building, um,

from Thursday till, till Sunday.

When I was in an office,

like we would go to the

like local BW three and that lunch.

And then we made it back

maybe by three or four o'clock.

Right.

Yeah.

So that's going on this week

and it's crazy week and opens ending.

Good thing.

Like CrossFit's taken like just a,

a little bit of a deep breath.

We have no CrossFit.

We have no WFP for a couple of weeks.

No, we do.

It doesn't the WFP

challenger division start next weekend.

Well, the, the online does.

Yeah, you're right.

Yeah.

Online starts Wednesday, right?

Something like that.

I have it in the ninth.

I think.

Yeah.

Maybe Thursday.

Yeah.

No Wednesday.

Yeah.

You're right.

It's just like a Wednesday

to Monday thing.

Like for.

Yeah.

Not sure.

I watched a lot of WFP stuff

today to try to catch up on everything.

I know it starts Wednesday.

Okay.

That's what I know.

I think it is Wednesday to Monday.

Okay.

Meredith Jones had a very

random Rich Froning

sighting this afternoon,

which was fun for this fangirl.

I was out driving with my husband and kids,

and we saw this incredibly

fit guy in the front yard of a house.

He was playing with some

kids and I just kept

staring at him wondering,

he looks so familiar.

How do I know this guy?

Then as we passed him,

I slapped my hands together and exclaimed,

holy shit, it's Rich Froning.

I live in California,

which is why this was so random.

But I knew from his podcast

that he had family in Glendora,

California,

and apparently they live ten

minutes from me.

Interesting.

I did not know that he had

family in California.

I know he had admit he has a

ton in Michigan.

Exactly.

Um,

and Tennessee of course did not know

California.

Yeah.

Interesting.

That's cool.

Uh,

Kenneth's a lap and trying to get my

wife to sit down and watch the pit.

Once you start, it's hard to stop.

Yeah.

Ask Jamie.

She watched it all till two

thirty in the morning one time.

Yeah.

Um,

Yeah, I think we're caught up on all that.

Um,

I got the last piece of ketchup news I

have is my daughter had an

interview in Montana or not

in Montana for a job in Montana with a,

um, outdoor apparel company, uh,

to be their, their,

their photo person and

editor and social media

person for their apparel line,

which is the, the dream job she wants.

She wants to do fashion photography, uh,

And it went really, really well.

And she has a second interview this week.

And so I may be traveling to

Montana sometime this spring.

She would have to move there.

She would have to move there.

Wow.

But she's twenty.

She'll be twenty four this summer.

Like she has right now.

She has no significant other.

No kids.

Now's the time to like go

try those things and build your resume.

And

I've never been to Montana.

I hear Montana's wonderful.

It's supposed to be just beautiful.

Yeah.

And then out of the blue,

she got a call from GNC

corporate office to photo the St.

Patty's Day five K in

Pittsburgh that they were sponsoring.

Her friend had done work for

them in Cleveland and

They wanted her to go do

this in Pittsburgh.

She goes,

I can't drive to Pittsburgh for that,

but I have a friend gave

them Corey's number.

They called Corey and she got hired.

That's cool.

Yeah.

So she did that on,

she said she basically ran

the five K because the

pictures they wanted were

start line in the middle

where they were going

around the U S steel building.

And then to get all the way

back to the finish line for

finish line pictures.

So she got a good run in and

she got a good job and she

got paid for it.

That's awesome.

So fun weekend for us as parents.

Anything going on with you, Carolyn?

You just got back, right?

Yeah,

I got back from California on Friday

night around like six

thirty and then back to work tomorrow.

So I was off for just over a week,

like the Friday, the seventh.

We were off until Monday.

We're back at it.

Is that like your guys' spring break?

Yeah.

Okay.

we call it March break here.

So same thing though.

Yep.

Now it's,

now it's just kind of surviving

until Easter.

And after that it's

surviving until the next holiday and keep,

you know, you just chip away at the next,

the next break.

That's how it is as teachers.

Yeah.

For us state workers,

this is the time where we

get no days off from like

from president's day till

Memorial day weekend.

You guys don't get Easter.

no we get a four day we get

a four day weekend for

easter which is nice

because you get the good

friday or yeah monday off

yeah we don't get any of

that um ken walters margo

alvarez has a nice place in

montana is that where the

vineyard is I think so um

ken walsh wants to know

jamie are you staying out of trouble

never yeah sure but it was

our seventeenth wedding

anniversary yesterday so we

went to dinner after the

gym congrats yeah it's a

long time I know right yeah

wow I know this job

Did your gym do any

celebration for the end of the open or?

So we do a members ball

every year and it's usually

like in the winter time and

we were going to do it yesterday,

but it was just like so chaotic with each,

like,

like we did like a potluck at the

gym on the first week of the open.

We went to,

went to a restaurant nearby

last week and,

We did a smoothie night in, in house.

Yes.

Friday night.

And the members ball,

we usually do potluck style as well.

And I was just like, we're just,

we're not ready.

And that's just more,

more information and things

to throw at people.

when we're trying to do this open.

So we're going to postpone

that till probably,

probably push it back to fall.

Um,

but that was going to be like our

celebration.

Like we were going to try to

get the scores in and

announce the team winner.

And it was just like,

this is so much and not in like,

I had like seven, six,

seven people do the workout

today at open gym.

So it's probably a good

thing we didn't cause not

all the scores were in for our teams.

are you guys going to make a

push for the community cup?

Like,

are you guys talking about that

already with your members?

Or are you guys going to take a,

a week of just a little bit

of a break and then maybe

talk about goals for the next part of.

Yeah.

Well,

we ended up with people that signed

up for the open and we're

going to create like, whether you'd,

we had like people come

every Friday night.

So we, it was pretty good turnout for us.

Um,

And of that,

I think I can figure most

people's levels that didn't

sign up that were very

similar to other people.

So we're going to do the,

our in-house comp like

coincide with the community cup.

So that'll be June.

We'll do it June fourth.

I know it's like run that whole week,

but we'll just do that Saturday.

Like we'll run all three

workouts that Saturday,

June fourth or whatever it is.

Sixth.

I don't know.

Is it the same weekend as NorCal?

don't know maybe it's the

fifteen I don't know when

it is it's like it's

sometime in june I have it

in my calendar um I think

it's father's day week I

think it's like right after

norcal like maybe a week or

two after yeah that's like

last chance qualifier too

at the same time I wonder

if they're gonna have the same workouts

Maybe they'll use that.

They still haven't talked

about anything about the

last chance qualifier in

terms of how many are going to that.

Like there's been no details.

It's just kind of been

something that was thrown out there.

And then that's it.

Bill and Chase did talk about that.

And they said something

about using the community cup,

the level ten, the level nine and ten.

The winner of that,

like that was their suggestion.

And sometimes I feel like

they have insight when they

say some of this stuff.

So.

that totally could be I mean

that's one way to do it

like yeah I don't know that

could be cool so before we

get into to finishing up

the open from last week um

one piece of somber news

huge shout out to to

charlie uh co-host on the

round table he lost his

father at the end of this week um and so

if you got like thoughts

prayers out to charlie if

you if you believe send

them some prayers um

thoughts he would surely

appreciate that um he was

really close to close with

his dad and um and lost him

at the end of the week and

so he's taking it pretty

tough and he could use any

thoughts and prayers you

have for him so I want to

throw that out to everybody

And I lost my dad a few years ago.

It was one of the toughest

things in my life.

I still am affected by that.

So hard.

So last week we finished up

twenty three or twenty five point two.

Carolyn finished the week in

fourth place worldwide and

this year they only,

they only paid a top three, right?

Cause I heard Hopper say in

the behind the scenes,

like the one place he

doesn't want to finish his

fourth in the open.

Yeah.

So last year they paid all

the way to fifth place.

And then every weekly winner,

only the top this year,

they're doing top three

weekly and top three overall.

Hmm.

Okay.

So that's new.

So they got rid of the

fourth and fifth overall,

but then they also at least

gave three for weeklies.

Interesting.

So the workouts announced.

We talked about it a little bit last week,

but how did it end up finishing up?

Did anybody do redos on Monday?

Happy with your scores?

I mean, Carolyn crushed it.

Yeah, it went well.

I did it the Thursday before

I left for California.

Cause Lex doesn't go to the

gym normally on the Sunday and Monday.

Um,

and then I was flying the Friday there.

So I wouldn't,

I needed to kind of crush that one, uh,

on the Thursday.

And then you, that's, that's one that like,

you kind of know ish what

people are going to get.

Cause it's a redo.

Um,

I was actually surprised at

how many people did better than me.

Like I thought I had a better score than,

like I got twentieth,

but I thought it was going

to be closer like between

ten and fifteenth if I was,

if I'm honest.

So I was, yeah, I was like, oh.

Yeah,

some of those scores are just wild to me.

I, I don't know.

Thrusters just frustrate the

shit out of me.

Like,

Like my score in that is just,

I don't know.

It's just not good.

You finished fifteenth in your division.

Yeah, it's not good.

Okay.

Man, I'm like, I'm uberly impressed.

And I know that you beat

yourself up pretty good.

But I'm like excellent at bar muscle ups.

I mean, I don't know.

It just doesn't make sense to me.

What was your score in that?

What was your time?

Six thirty four.

So let me ask you this.

And you can.

I can be the bad guy.

Are you saying that because

you think that standards

are not being met,

that people are hitting

better times or that you

think you're just really

slow at thrusters and

you've got to figure that

out moving forward?

And Aaron and I have talked about that.

We can't figure it out.

I mean, I think for sure,

I think it's a little bit

of a cycle speed for me thing.

I don't squat fast.

But it's like the movement

between thrusters and gymnastics just,

I don't know.

I don't know.

Maybe I can't hold on for

big sets of thrusters.

I'm not sure what it is.

It's weird because I'm

pretty great at wall balls.

So, and I get it, thrusters are heavier,

but I'm not bad at squatting endurance.

What got tired for you in that one?

Your grip slash, like,

upper body or your engine?

I guess engine, but it's, like...

I don't know.

Like, I mean,

I was able to do eleven four

on the bar muscle up.

I was I was fine.

And I went on broken on the

fifteen thrusters at the end.

I don't know.

Maybe I'm.

I don't know.

I just I guess I need to

just I've trained thrusters

a ton this year,

but it's still like and I'm

way better at chest to bar

than I was in twenty two.

So and I was like seven oh

five and twenty two.

So I feel like.

I feel like six thirty four

isn't that great.

And like in seeing other people's times,

like when I look at workout

one and workout two.

I even workout three,

it's just it's it's just weird to me,

like I guess it's weird to

me that where some people

are able to hurt and not

able to hurt and other things,

that's what doesn't like I

can't quite figure out.

Like the style of workout

that people are able to

kind of put their head down in.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I need to find that, that place again.

What place?

Oh, to put my head down and suffer.

I,

I do think that I over like over

accentuate my thrusters.

And I do think that that in

effect tires me out.

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I do think that

I don't know,

I got to figure out how to move that.

I'm never gonna go I'm never

gonna ride the line at squat height.

I'm never gonna ride the

line at right here in front of my face.

Like, that's just not me.

But

Yeah.

It's like the cycle speed of

some people are so fast.

And like, I have a,

I have a good cycle speed

for thrusters and like even mine,

I'm like,

and then I started looking at

some of the scores that be me.

I'm like, damn,

like I'm unbroken for the whole thing.

And I'm like, where am I?

Like I rested about ten

seconds before jumping onto

the bar muscle up,

rested about four or five

seconds before picking up

the last set of thrusters.

But like in terms of the rest, I was like,

that's basically my my speed

and then I started looking

at even just like the style

of bar muscle ups that

people do at the highest

level and I I play around

with it but there's two

different styles that you

see and it's like the one

where you do a bar muscle

up and you kind of rest

your hips on the bar and

you make contact and then

it's the one where you kind

of like lock out and your

hips don't touch and you

don't really have a support

position but you just kind of fall back

And it just seems like

everyone that has like

really fast scores are able

to sustain that style under fatigue.

And when I get fatigue,

I have trouble doing that.

And for most people,

they won't understand what

I'm talking about, but the elites,

like we definitely know what,

like what that looks like.

And yeah,

Yeah.

It's something that I want to work on.

I don't like that style of bar muscle up.

I find it's kind of cheating.

If I'm being honest,

I feel like it's not a supported position,

but people have been doing

it the last year or two.

And if you're not doing it,

you're falling behind.

Yeah.

Because it's, it's significantly faster.

It's, it's just,

it's small details like

that at the top that make a

huge difference.

And it's, it's crazy, but yeah,

I don't like the movement

that it's gone to.

but it's faster.

Yeah.

It's just like that time

under tension with all the movements,

right?

Like if you are that little bit faster,

you saved that much time

under tension and fatigue.

And so I'm going to,

I'm going to move on to

finish wrapping this up.

Colton and Miriam one for

the second week in a row.

Lex in the comments on my

Friday lunch show said,

that if CrossFit does not do

a head-to-head with Colton

and Miriam next year,

they are missing out.

They have to.

I don't think anyone would

beat their score from the announcement.

If they pick the right

workout that was some sort

of squatting pattern and a

burpee or something like that,

there's no one better in

the sport right now than those two.

And it's not even close.

And she would push Colton as

much as he would push her.

It would be a battle.

And I think they would both enjoy it.

I agree.

I'd love to see it.

Yeah.

What blew me away, first of all,

is that Mal's record of

four eleven stood.

Well, it's really Tia's.

Tia was faster.

She just had a small false start.

They gave Tia a five second penalty.

Tia had a four Oh seven or

something like that.

And they gave her a five

second penalty for like a

half a second false start.

Well, really, if you look at,

if you look at her video, like it's not a,

it's not a five second penalty,

like in reality.

So it's like Tia's time from

that is crazy along with miles.

And for that to hold up, it's nuts.

And if you watch Colton's video,

I don't know where he gains

any time to get sub four.

I know.

Didn't he trip a double under?

Not on his final one.

There wasn't a miss.

There wasn't.

I think when I look back on Tia's video,

he's not very fast going.

Well, he is fast,

but he's not as fast going to the rope.

Tia would finish the movement,

pick up the rope,

and right away go into her double-unders.

If you go back and watch the

head-to-head of her and Mal,

it was feet on the ground, rope,

and right away.

Colton would land,

walk to the skipping rope, turn,

and then begin.

Right there,

if he just did what Tia was

able to do a few years ago,

he would be subbed for.

Just on the skipping.

That's where he loses his time.

There's no time to make up

on his thrusters.

There's no time to make up anywhere else.

But the way he picks up his

rope is not as efficient as it could be.

So because we had double winners,

both on the men's and women's side,

our stats and information person,

and this is kind of spread

around spin used it.

Holly put it out there.

I talked about it on the lunch show,

but we had twenty five

different divisions,

including our very own

Carolyn Prevost in the

women's thirty five to thirty nine.

When both event twenty five

point one and twenty five point two.

That's twenty five divisions, age group,

adaptive and elites.

Does that is that a telling

sign for the program?

I got a lot of comments that

said you can't tell if the

about the programming just

by the winners.

But twenty five divisions is

just over an overwhelming number for me.

And I can pull up her graph

just so everybody can see it.

I mean,

I think in some of those adaptive

divisions,

that's probably going to be the

case for a lot of workouts anyway.

I feel like you have

outliers in those divisions.

I do agree with that.

I agree with that.

If it was just the adaptive

where this happened, okay.

Right.

But with twenty five across,

you had six and actually

there's one outlier score

that shouldn't exist in the

sixty five to sixty nine or

it would be twenty six.

On the women's side.

And Denise Moore pointed that out to me.

Interesting.

We got a random score input

that didn't get fixed or something.

It's one of those that make

no sense where they're like

ten thousandth in the other event.

whatever it's like her tie

break or something yeah

right and so it's it breaks

up this one person would

have had a double win but

anyway we had six in the h

group we had the two elites

and then you had um all of

these adaptives I still

think they're very

different tests though like

I I think they're very

different I think they're

pretty different too

which is crazy to think, right?

Like it's crazy to look at all it.

Like,

I'd be curious to look at different years,

but, and if that's happened, um, across,

you know,

just looking back on all the

years of the open,

how often this has been, but like,

I think it does definitely

program the shorter athletes in general.

Are there anomalies?

Yes.

I mean,

Tia can be an anomaly at the game

sometimes for what people

shouldn't be good at,

but she's just good at everything.

Um,

like, you know,

Dallin and Hopper doing so

well as bigger athletes.

Like they're not the norm

necessarily for some of those workouts,

but I still think they're

vastly different tests.

I just thought it was like one.

This is why Holly's awesome

because she's the one that found this.

Like she wasn't prompted by this.

She put this together herself.

That's why she's the best.

That's why we love her.

I thought it made a great

talking point for sure.

At the very least,

it's just a talking point.

Yeah.

I'm not trying to like sit,

I'm not trying to make a

definitive statement about

the programming or anything

like that with it, but it makes you say,

Hmm.

Right.

Like the old Arsenio hall,

things that make you go, Hmm.

Yep.

For sure.

Yeah, that was it.

I just,

and I wanted to get your reaction to it.

Um,

and congratulate Carolyn for being one

of the people who actually

did that winning both it's

pretty impressive and I

know that that you are more

impressed by your elite

standing than where you are

in the Masters division but

you're killing thirty-five

to thirty-nine there's

there's a few in that

division that are killing

it rich running Junior's

doing pretty good

Kristen Halter.

I'll be curious to see if

she does the age group masters as well.

Agreed.

Yeah.

If she'll make the trip over.

Corey says, as it turns out,

Carolyn is fit.

That's what I said.

When you're fit, you're fit.

Like that's,

that's what the programming tells me.

And that,

this is the frustrating part is

that it's all going to mean nothing.

It's just going to like, like, like, like,

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

the high skill high weights

and then you just have to

be good enough to get

through the open and then

you get only six events and

you can hide a lot in six

events but if you put all

of those together and I've

repeated it how many times

now into eight to ten

events you can have one bad

event but you're gonna get

the better athlete overall

you have to be good at all

style of workouts and it's

just sad that this

literally means nothing in

the grand scheme of screen

scheme of things so

I'm just glad that Dave has heard you,

that other athletes have heard that,

and that hopefully that

means that they may move in

a direction where the Open

will truly matter.

That way, if the scores move forward,

the Open then matters.

And you only do it for the top one.

You only compare all the

scores for the one percent.

You get rid of the ninety

nine percent that affects

the leaderboard.

You open up the videos and boom,

like it's it's done.

Like you actually look

through thoroughly through, you know,

multiple videos of of the

top athletes and you get

the most well-rounded to move forward.

Because like it shouldn't

just be a high skill heavyweights.

Like these tests are still

very valuable tests and

they're tests that we all

took together against each other.

You know,

making it two hundredth and then

being good after that is to me,

you have holes.

You have holes in your fitness.

Right.

Larry Young,

we know that he likes some

heavier barbells in the open.

What really frustrates him is lazy,

not well-rounded

programming is always

covered up by the cream

will rise to the top or it won't matter.

The one percent will be fine.

Well, guess what?

It matters to the ninety nine percent.

Yeah, some of the ninety nine, I mean,

some of that ninety nine percent care,

I would say for sure, like.

The ninety eight sounds like

me ten years ago.

Really cares.

Like ten years ago, I was like,

where's the heavy barbell?

Where's where's my back squat?

Where's my like?

Because those are the things

I could crush.

Give me a bench press in the open.

Blah, blah, blah.

Right.

So I like I was Larry ten years ago.

Now it doesn't matter to me

as much because my fitness

isn't where it was ten years ago.

But I.

but I understand where he's coming from.

When you have a strength and

you never get to show it, it sucks.

Yeah, and that's why, like,

every competition is program dependent.

Yeah.

Which is why, like,

I think by adding everything,

it just makes more sense.

Because let's say if you

want to throw a heavy clean

in the open and all of a

sudden you see the snatch

in the semifinals, well,

then you've tested both and

you get both scores to matter.

And, you know,

at the semis you can get

lucky and let's say you

have a really good snatch

but not as much of a squat clean.

You get punished against

your peers in the squat clean.

Well,

you just got like lucky on the

programming that it

happened to be snatched and

then you pull through.

But by adding everything together,

like there's just less

holes that you can kind of hide.

Like you're going to get

something somewhere,

whether it's the open or semis.

And like I said,

the well-rounded ones will

be good at all.

going to try to say what

larry's saying in a way

that makes sense ten years

ago I was never gonna like

do well enough in the open

to make a difference in

like semis or quarters or

any of that stuff right but

I could compete locally and

maybe I couldn't do all the

rx movements so I signed up

for scaled the only time

the only thing that ever

happens to a scaled workout

at a local comp is they

decrease the weights

If it's loaded.

If it's gymnastics,

you decrease the volume first,

and then you decrease the movement.

If I can't do a chest-to-bar,

I can't do a chest... It

was very frustrating that

they would not scale the

gymnastics as much as they

scaled the weight.

And that was very frustrating as someone.

And that's why I,

that's why the name of this

show is Clydesdale media.

I thought they should have a

Clydesdale division for

people like Larry and I,

who want it to be,

want it a little bit more

strength focused and less.

It's called power lifting or

Olympic lifting stuff.

Like if you look at the

bottom of the pyramid, but like, yeah,

I want to do all this stuff.

I just,

I'm not fast enough to compete with

anybody.

Stop lifting and get better

at pull-ups and burpees.

Never, ever, no matter how much I train it,

I'm never going to be

faster than Charlie at a burpee.

I'm just not.

But I think the way that, you know,

CrossFit and Greg Glassman

has done the pyramid makes

the most sense is it's like

your metabolic conditioning is, you know,

the base nutrition and

that's the base of the pyramid.

And then it's like

controlling your own body

weight prior to adding, you know,

external load with

weightlifting and throwing.

Like to me,

that progression kind of makes

sense because it's like if

you don't have control of

your body without weight, like

kind of like you earn the

weight a little bit um and

it's not like it's not like

it's not tested like it's

things are still heavy

enough it's like people can

go faster too if it's if it's so easy yes

but they can't because they

lack the capacity engine wise.

I am not saying I don't want

to get better at my weaknesses.

I am not saying that at all.

I'm just saying that there's,

there's no place for us to

play where we get to like

show off what we can do.

Well, that that's all I'm saying.

I don't want to go do power lifting.

I like doing this stuff.

I know that I'm not great at

burpees and I want to get better.

I want to do better.

but let me play in a

different division while

I'm trying to get there.

That's all.

But I think that's the, like,

for the most part, that's the,

like a scale division in

terms of there's people

that have holes either in the gymnastics,

the capacity or the weights.

Like CrossFit is about being

well-rounded and not being

necessarily like a

specialist on one side.

So until you are able to

adequately be good at all

three of those and be able

to do the movements, you know,

with more speed and RX,

I think if you have a

deficiency in any one of

those three things,

you're staying for the most

part in the scale division longer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Scott's not going to agree.

I feel like this workout

point three was pretty good

example of that.

Like I have,

I have athletes that are like

Scott and I have athletes

that are more like me, but even,

but even less strong.

And I,

They're great at the getting

through the wall walks,

but the barbell crushes

them and they're there for three minutes.

Well,

my other person is on the wall for

three minutes,

just trying to get through

five fricking wall walks,

but then they come over to

the barbell and get it done in a minute.

Like what's weird.

I mean, it, it, what it shouldn't matter,

Scott is like,

if it really is that easy for you,

you should be able to walk

up to that barbell and do

all and walk and not be

that fatigued from it and

go back over and start

moving through those wall walks.

what I noticed is typical

and this is how what

usually happens is the the

weaker person usually can

get further because they

have a better engine the

other like the stronger

people just just stop

moving they just even

though it's they say it's

light for them they're

still not even moving that

that fast so like yeah I

thought I thought this

workout really there was

something for everyone to chew on like

like I saw someone today

that's super strong on the barbell.

And like you said,

like still was gassed and, you know,

obviously the wall walks

became very difficult there,

but then wasn't able to

attack the strength part.

Like he would normally,

because he's gassed

shoulder wise or just

engine wise and has that limitation.

And I think that, you know, again,

someone that could pull

very easily on the rower,

but then it kind of blows

up your heart rate a little bit.

And yeah,

I think it was nicely balanced.

It wasn't super light

because there are people

that were struggling with those weights.

And if it is light, you can move faster,

but people weren't.

So I liked it.

I think it's a nice finisher.

And for the open,

I think it completes a little bit better,

the test.

Because it's hard after two

weeks to judge the test.

But when you have all three

workouts together, it's better for sure.

This is way off.

I mean, we're way off subject for this.

And maybe this is a topic

for another night.

But it is a good segue into

twenty five point three for me.

And what I'll say is so I

did twenty five point three today.

I'm fifty five,

so I've moved up to that

geezer division and all the

weights got dropped.

Yeah.

Like almost to a ridiculous level for me.

Yes.

Right.

my biggest fear and I

actually was was texting

with lana last night is my

fear was like I have got to

keep myself slow or I'm

going to be dead on the

highway part way through

this workout like I

literally am going to have

to force myself to slow

down so that I have the

capacity to do the wall

walk when I get back there

And I was very happy with

the way my workout went,

but the weights were like so light.

Like, one eighty five dead left for me.

I did on purpose,

I did sets of five just to pace it.

And then for the cleans, I did singles,

even though I didn't have to.

I was trying to save my back.

I was trying to save my wind.

And then I made it through

the snatches and I got two

wall walks after the snatches.

I almost made it back to the rower.

Awesome.

Which was great for me today.

Yeah.

Of course.

Now I,

now I wish I could have done

something to get on the rower.

Cause I did like the first row.

I really paste it.

Cause I did not want to come

off of that sucking so bad

and going into the rest of the stuff.

And the five,

the five deadlifts was Lana's idea.

She was like, just do five at a time,

step back, take your breath, go back,

do five more.

Um, but I was really happy.

It's been a personal victory

this year for me.

I did two workouts, RX.

I technically could have

done the second one RX,

but I chose to do it scaled

and compete against my old score.

Um,

which I beat the highest

I've finished since my back

surgery is in the twelfth

percentile going into this workout.

I was at sixteen and I'm

hoping to get up a little

bit more after this workout

because I think I did

pretty good in my division.

So I was really happy with this workout.

It was a personal victory.

And to me,

I know it was like a shit show

with all the barbells.

I actually had fun with this workout.

I had to strategize.

I had to think about it.

I had to implement the plan

and for not being an elite athlete,

I got to play.

I got to play today.

So, um, so I was really stoked for that.

Yeah,

I saw people do different versions at

my gym.

The foundation one,

just like even like the

bear crawl version was

challenging to a few of my

members that were super

proud of just completing that.

And it just gives them

different ideas for when

wall walks are there.

It's like, you know.

Change your scaling to this

maybe sometimes to work on

that and just different

ways that you can scale the

wall walks and throughout

the year to to increase.

Right.

Like you don't want to be

doing the same scales all

the time because eventually

you just resort and you're not.

you're not improving.

Um, so it's like, Hey, like, you know,

sometimes do the bear, the bear walk line,

sometimes do the modified

wall walk distance at what

age group do you think it should change?

Like, cause I had a, I had a lady that, um,

goes to my gym and she just

moved away now and she's in

the sixty five plus.

And, you know,

she was hoping to do the

wall walks the way it was written.

Um,

do we feel like it should have been all

the way through or is it like,

at sixty five and above

maybe is when it should and

maybe just decrease the

load at certain like I I

was shocked that RX fifty

five plus was scaled wall

walks I don't know if they

were really hung up on

leaving the numbers the

same this week or what but

I don't know why it wasn't

just like three wall walks

for master for masters I

had been doing a lot of

progressions trying to get

my full wall walk back and

I and I was confident that

I could have done it this weekend but

What was crazy to me is I thought I was,

I think last time I did wall walks,

cause I didn't do the open last year.

I had to do the, the scaled on a sixty,

the sixty inch line.

And for fifty five plus,

they moved the men back to

the fifty five inch line.

Exactly.

They were so much easier.

Like, not only did they scale it,

but then they scaled it

back even further for the men.

Right.

And nothing for the,

which doesn't make sense

cause it doesn't change for the women.

Nope.

so I wonder if that was like

a typo or something because

that makes no sense all of

scale all scaled there if

you looked scaled wall walk

was only a fifty five inch

line interesting and aaron

and I said the same thing

we're like I wonder if it's

always been that way and

we've just always

overlooked that in the past

and we just always make our

scale people use either the

men's or women's line

And I wouldn't even have

noticed if Jim wouldn't

have brought it to my attention.

He was like, in my master's Facebook group,

they're all talking about

we get to use a fifty five inch line.

And I was like, what?

No way.

And I pull and I'm like, look through.

I'm like, sure is crazy.

Lana brought it to my

attention last night or I would I would.

Well,

I'm sure my gym would have had it right.

But like going in,

I thought I had to do the

sixty because last time I

did it with my short arms,

it was like out in front of

me and it was so hard.

I didn't, I didn't see that part of, um,

I didn't judge anyone this

weekend that was doing the

scaled version.

So I didn't even clue in on that,

that had gone closer and

it's the same for the men and women.

That's, that's silly.

Yeah.

But to answer your question, Carolyn, I,

as much as it benefited me

this year to do the lower weights and,

um,

And I know that's

contradictory to what I was

just saying five minutes ago.

It did make my open easier

to do this year.

I will say that.

And I've heard like if I

would add the heavier weights,

I wouldn't have gone as fast.

But I think that's a better

workout for you.

It's a more appropriate

workout for you versus

waiting there and being

kind of stopped by the movement.

You get to play and get to

your heart rate elevated and.

And I think that's where the

tough part for like a Dave

Castro or a boss is because yes,

it made mine easier,

but I've been around

masters athletes at the

games level that that was a

joke in the fifty five to

fifty nine that the scaled

wall walks were a joke for

a hundred percent.

And so like,

but how do you fix that with

it with two hundred thousand people?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know why it just

wasn't fewer reps.

Like they should be doing

full wall walks like that.

You don't scale the wall walk for RX.

I don't care how old you are.

You do it.

You just do a few less.

Like I get it.

The feet, the mobility isn't there.

They're not awesome.

It's really like fatiguing

on their shoulders because

they're slow at it,

but you just do fewer reps.

And then,

and then the scaled is the scaled

wall walk.

I mean, if I'm if I'm fifty five plus,

I'm like, well,

at least my shoulders are

saved for semis.

Right.

Yeah.

And then there's the argument of like,

if it's easy, then go faster.

Right.

Like it's you'll have a

different stimulus of a workout.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, so how did you,

what did you guys feel

about the elite version?

We'll get out of the skis or

division and into the

elites and the open division.

How did you feel about the

workout as a whole?

I think it's a good workout.

I think it's a good workout.

I think this is a different

workout for the men and women.

Yeah.

I mean, it's,

They're going to have an

easier time on the row,

so they're going to be beating you there.

But technically,

I'd say the weight is a

little more manageable for the women,

so it should come back to the middle.

I still think the men are going to win.

Yeah, no females getting nine.

Right.

No, but I think, like you said,

because the row is faster

for the men and the weights,

like the eighty five versus

the one thirty five,

let's say on the cleans.

I just think like women in

general for some of the

weights are stronger at the

top end of the sport,

maybe not in the middle percentiles,

but the top end percentiles.

I think the barbell has a

bigger factor on the

women's side than than the men.

And there's a lot of time to

be made up in that middle

for the woman versus the men.

Yeah.

I kind of wonder if more

women won't be going like

touch and go on some cleans.

It's just not,

it's not necessary for the men.

I feel like, I think it's a terrible idea,

but I did not go on broken on cleans, but,

or like even I'd went all singles,

but I do think maybe

there's because it is a

little bit lighter, um,

probably could handle some

touch and go reps there and

be okay and speed that up.

I mean,

I feel like that's where the

workout started was the cleans.

And it was really about who

wanted to stay disciplined there.

It's a good workout.

It's challenging.

There's engine wise, arms wise, guts, just,

you know,

how bad you want to hurt type thing.

For me, back and hamstrings, my God,

you're just picking

something off the floor a lot.

Yeah,

I heard a lot of the people today at

the gym saying,

is your back sore type thing?

Just kind of talking to each other.

I can definitely see that.

My back feels great.

My hamstrings are lit.

We had three of the best do

the open announcement.

It's proving that by a long shot,

they are the three best.

What are your overall

thoughts about the open announcement?

The fact I knew the workouts?

Or... Are we just going to ignore that?

Honestly, when I found the workout out,

I went back to Pedro's show

and I was like,

I sent that to Lex and I was like,

this is a joke.

I'm like, this is ridiculous.

Um...

Yeah, I mean, I don't love that.

They can go and pretend and

maybe change the order of

the movements during the

Pedro show to pretend that

they don't know the workouts,

but come on.

On their own podcast,

they really tried a big cover-up.

They for sure trying to cover up.

Um, they knew,

they knew the damn workouts.

I don't know for how long, but yeah.

Um, dumb, the show, everything amazing.

Loved it.

Um, they put on a great show.

Their performance was amazing.

Um,

Yeah, like it was a battle between them.

And then you just got to witness, you know,

we knew right away when

that workout was out that

that was going to be three solid scores.

Like you just knew.

Like you couldn't have

picked better athletes

probably to do that

announcement than those guys.

And then to add Travis in there was cool.

Yeah, I loved that Tyson announced.

Sorry, Tyson.

No, I like that Tyson did it.

I love that Travis was announcing.

I loved that.

Sorry, I just got their names mixed up.

It is Tyson, right?

Which one is it?

Tyson's a quarterback.

Travis is the former games announcer.

Okay, I was like, did I make up a name?

No.

Okay.

Travis is the dad.

Tyson's the son.

Okay.

I thought it was cool they

had Travis in the booth

with his son out on the

floor by himself at that point,

really cheering on and

saying how proud he was

that he had the balls to go

out and do it.

Yeah, and he sent it at first.

Damn.

Yeah.

I kind of wish he wouldn't

have because I would like

to see what his score would

have been done properly.

Huh?

He said he's redoing it.

I would hope so because that was a...

general gym goers time.

He should be fitter than that.

According to Beyond the

Whiteboard prelim analysis,

if you finished the workout,

you were in the top

seventy-fifth percentile.

Let's say he was a minute

and a half from there.

Let's call it maybe in the

eightieth percentile.

Okay.

Which is pretty good.

For a first time, just knowing it there.

Did you guys hear he waived

his appearance fee?

Yes.

He waived his appearance fee to come.

And in turn,

that he could bring some of

his boys with him to hang

out with him during the

open announcement.

What do you mean by that?

What is that?

So as an NFL player,

you typically get an

appearance fee to go.

Yeah, yeah.

Most professional athletes do.

Right.

He waived that fee.

So CrossFit paid nothing to

have him there.

He just wanted the ability

to bring some of his

friends with him to hang out.

Gotcha.

And CrossFit said, yes, sure thing.

Yeah, that's good.

That's awesome.

Yeah,

the echo rowers were interesting in

the announcement.

What else?

Larry says he thinks he's buying one.

I have one at my gym.

They feel very similar.

You know what?

I don't know if you saw the Jason, Justin,

Dallin podcast,

but they said the best part

of it is the wheels.

Yeah, for sure.

Well, yeah.

Because it's easier to move.

Yeah.

It doesn't rattle around.

Oh, yeah.

No, it's much easier to move.

It's just heavy.

Um, it's, it's definitely heavier,

but sturdier.

Um,

it would just be interesting to look at.

I mean,

it's supposed to be the exact same

for the screen,

like in terms of the way it

counts calories.

So did you guys watch the

CrossFit behind the scenes

of the open announcement?

CrossFit put out a video

behind the scenes of twenty

five point three.

Jason's wife.

I think I watched that one.

I think I watched Hillers

behind the scenes.

Yeah, I watched Hillers.

Hillers is great.

CrossFit's is really good, too.

Like, really good.

Their media is finally coming back strong.

For sure.

But Grace Ann, who is Jason's wife,

figured out Dave's clue,

like where he got it,

where he took the picture,

all of that stuff.

Oh, yeah.

Did you see it?

Yes.

Yeah.

And it was,

she was in the shower and she goes,

Oh my gosh, this is where it was.

And then they confronted

Dave and he's like, yeah,

I was in the shower and I saw it.

And I was like, that's perfect.

And he like hopped out of the shower,

shower naked to go get his phone,

to come back and take a picture.

Oh boy.

Yeah, that's good.

Because Jason, one of them had posted,

I think, on their Instagram,

so I'd seen that.

It's funny.

Yeah, I'd seen Grace's,

the picture or the video of

Grace being like,

this is where Dave took the photo.

Yeah.

Andrew Stanton says,

if you watch Hillers behind the scenes,

you'll see some of the old

CrossFit media guys.

Yeah,

Tyson Ulroyd was doing a lot of the

filming for the CrossFit

behind the scenes.

I mean,

some of those guys from back in the

day were just good at what they do.

Him and Marshall Moore.

Is it Marshall Moore?

No.

Mariah Moore.

Mariah Moore.

Like, they're just great at what they do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

so yeah the the crossfit

behind the scenes shows a

lot of like hopper and

sprague and dallin's

personalities more than the

hiller one um like dallin

is doing this whole speech

about yeah it's so cool to

be here and like for jason

and james like they get to

they get to say they

competed against me um in

this event and that it

would they just dog on each

other the whole time and it

is really really good

Yeah,

they've done a good job of promoting

that announcement and all

the before scenes and after

scenes of everything.

It was really well done this week.

It's been well done every week, honestly.

I think the media has been

very successful in terms of

things around the Open.

And even prior to that,

I think it's been

definitely a huge step in

the right direction for their media team.

In the half hour before the announcement,

they run all these vignettes.

Yeah, I like that.

Every athlete,

they have a profile of the

gym that they're doing it at.

Like those are great.

And then the cool down show

is back for the first time

in like five years.

And unrehearsed,

they get the James Pat

Sprague show talking about

how CrossFit saved their life.

Like those are the little

pieces that have been

missing from the open

announcements that I loved.

I knew Pat Sprague before I

knew James Sprague because

of the Masters community.

Knowing how he used CrossFit

to conquer alcoholism and

to save his life and to

become a three-time games

athlete is so cool.

And those are the stories we

need to tell more often.

And as someone who had his

own life saved by CrossFit,

like that stuff tears me up instantly.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah.

And in both behind the scenes,

you get to see Dave try to

run a route and it may be

the most unathletic wide

receiver I've ever seen in my life.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can definitely tell who

is more in their element there.

Like Jason obviously played football.

Dallin seems to be less of a,

or more like risk advert type person.

Like he's kind of just more

sitting back and watching.

Like he did a little bit,

but I think he's more like

focused on honestly kicking their butts.

James was probably a lineman.

He didn't look like he

touched the ball very much

when he played football.

Jason, it's in his element.

It's just more natural for

him to go and play and

probably be in that atmosphere.

It brings out his manly ego

side of the boys.

It looked fun.

It was good content.

Entertaining.

After all that good stuff,

it's still an online competition.

We still have to deal with all that

If you go out and you look

at the videos that are

posted on some of these scores,

we still have a mega problem to overcome.

yeah like I sent you guys

like I think like one of

the first videos from like

one of the overall girls

that I was looking at like

the tape measure is maybe

three inches off the wall

and then the ten that I

guess it's in europe so it

should be twenty five

centimeters and it still

wasn't even hidden twenty

five centimeters and you

could clearly see the tape

measure is not even against

the wall and the whole

measurement of the whole

wall walk is off and I'm like

You're in one of the top

positions worldwide.

Like, come on now.

Is that score still up?

Yeah.

Still there?

Yeah.

And then the wall walk,

I just don't like the standard.

I thought Rogue did a really

good job when they did the

wall walk complex.

It's like,

start with your hands on the line,

get your hands to the line,

finish at some point with

your hands back on the line.

And I think that's what it should be.

Screw this,

foot needs to be up on the wall,

then your hands,

then you get your hands to the tape line,

walk forward.

Some of it happens so fast

at the elite level

Of like, did the foot touch first?

Did the hand touch the line first?

Whereas you're not supposed

to pause the videos if you

take the judges' scores.

You shouldn't be doing that.

And you know that everyone's

pausing at those moments to

see that slowed time thing.

If they just made it hand to

the line on each end,

get there how you want.

And now I'm trying to think

of different ways people would do it.

But I think that would just be easier.

And Rogue did it.

They made people just do their wall walks,

do their handstand pushups,

and then walk back and then

just get your hands back to the line.

If it means that you're

doing a burpee of some sort, who cares?

It's probably slower that way anyways.

If you were to bring your

knees down and then come

back to your stomach,

it'd probably be slower.

Just make it there and back.

Larry Young says, Scott,

I think you nailed it on that receiver.

Yeah.

Most unathletic ever.

I think this is a problem too.

You set a standard and

you're CrossFit and you set up the floor.

You need to make sure you

are doing everything

exactly correct with no exceptions.

And Andrew brings up this point.

It's funny that the tape

line for the announcement

was set up wrong.

One continuous line instead

of thirty inch lines.

You have to set the example

for the community.

And like that line is not

even an important line.

It's the one to the wall if

you want that one to be important.

And really,

I don't even think the width

should matter for the

handstand walk the line

because if you're wider,

what would that do?

Like it's not even efficient.

Yeah, I mean,

you still got to get as close, like,

you still got to get within ten inches.

I don't know.

Like, I think it's, like,

I can see it in the handstand push-up,

but in the wall walk,

I don't see the use of the thirty,

is it thirty inches for the, yeah,

the width there.

Like,

I don't see the value in adding that

as a rule.

Yeah.

to your point, Carolyn, Andrew says live,

the judge can't watch the

hands and the feet at the same time.

So the standard is impossible to judge.

It's so hard to judge.

Like when they're going full speed,

the elbows going through on the clean,

so hard to judge as they're going very,

very fast.

Sometimes it's like,

are they extending their knee?

Is the barbell already off?

Are the elbows back to, you know,

more underneath vertical or

are they still in front?

Like it happens so fast.

Like,

It's just tough sometimes.

And like, yeah,

you're not supposed to slow it down,

but people are slowing the videos down.

Some of it's very obvious,

but sometimes it happens to us.

Vi says,

people in the comments were saying

the scores from the

announcement were going to

get invalidated because of

the tape issue.

Is that true?

Should they be invalid?

Man, I don't think they'll be invalidated.

I think they'll give them a

penalty because it was

CrossFit's mistake at the most.

I think a lot of gyms did it that way,

though.

A lot of gyms did it that way.

It's just easier.

You're making things way too

complicated on affiliates

to specify something like that.

It's ridiculous.

Yeah, I think on the wall walk,

it could have been just one

straight tape across with a

fifty five or fifty or

sixty inches and even one

tape straight across at the ten inches.

Like the thirty inch does

not does not matter.

Hit the line with both hands

forward and back.

That's it.

None of this other in between stuff.

We're making it harder on ourselves.

Now people just need to measure correctly.

If they invalidate anyone or

penalize anyone,

then they have to penalize

Jason Dillon and James.

Yeah.

I don't think they're going

to invalidate anyone for

the thirty inch line now

being twelve inches off the

wall or whatever these

people are trying to finicky do.

Yeah, that's that's that's different.

Yeah.

Yeah,

like that one girl that wasn't to the

that measured, you know,

two inches off the wall and

still was short on the

twenty five centimeters

like that's you're you're

cutting the movement much.

Like closer in.

Yeah, get rid of get get rid of that.

Actually, that's not the one I wanted.

They made Aaron Frazier.

They made Laura and Gabby

redo the workout a few

years ago because CrossFit

loaded the bar wrong.

But that's a plate load.

I think that's different.

The plate load issue,

that's a completely different movement.

And this,

the thirty inches is so

irrelevant in the wall walks.

It's actually harder to go

wider like that.

The more stacked you are,

the easier it'll be for you to go back.

Dense agrees with Carolyn.

Thirty inches does not make

sense at all for a wall walk.

Just for the handstand

push-ups so that people

don't get so wide.

That's it.

You get too wide on a wall

walk and you're not going to, I mean,

you're going to go down.

Your head's going to be.

Yeah.

All right, cool.

So, so the open is essentially over.

We have some final,

final scores to go in tomorrow.

What are your thoughts

overall on this three week open?

Are you happy with it?

I am.

I thought, I thought they're good to pass.

I thought the media was good.

I think it's a good start to

the season to gain some, some momentum,

you know,

like it's been a rough few months.

And I think that the

community was really rallying together.

I know my community at

CrossFit Coliseum was amazing.

you know,

color coordinated every week and

cheering on and they're,

they're super pumped right now.

So, um, I think a lot of communities had a,

had a great time.

Um, I thought the workouts were, were fun.

Um, not overly difficult,

but not so easy as well too.

Um, yeah, I think, I think it was good.

I thought it was successful.

I think,

I think there's some good momentum

going into the season and I,

I hope that people are excited.

Um,

I'll let Jamie talk in a second.

I thought it was awesome.

I I've been doing the open since, um,

the open used to be just a big,

huge fun blast community event.

Um, I've missed that for a few years.

I don't know if it was a

change of ownership in our gym, um,

or a combination of these

workouts in that.

And the,

the announcements were the best

they've been since before COVID before,

um, probably, um,

thought those were the best

I thought it was I thought

it was a great open I had I

had so much fun this year

probably helps that I was

able to do two of the three

workouts rx so that makes

me feel good at the end of

the day I think you want

your community to feel good

like that too um so yeah so

I put in here I don't know

if you guys had time to

think about it what is the

good the bad and the ugly

of this year's open

The good is definitely the announcements.

I thought that they crushed

it this year with the content there.

I really wish there would

have been a female at the

final week because it was

such a different workout.

I do not like that.

You had four dudes there.

So you put that in the pad?

Yeah.

The bad is obviously the leaks.

That's the horrible.

Every week had leaks.

Can't happen.

Especially when it's

becoming an advantage for people.

Of course.

And there's money on the line and stuff.

And it's like, yeah,

it's just not like you want.

Yeah,

the leaks are the leaks are a huge

issue in our sport.

It's it's a big problem.

Yeah.

Twenty five point one was

perfect for anyone.

We had two people that were

only two weeks in and they

were able to do it.

I agree.

Twenty five point one

started off the open for us really well.

Twenty five point two had

people frustrated.

I think people regretted even signing up.

And then we had a few we had

a smaller turnout this week.

I don't know if because they

thought it was going to be

exactly like the previous week or what,

which sucks because I think

this week was a very good workout.

Would you have changed the

order of week two and three?

Yeah, I would have.

It's just the way the open always is.

I don't understand.

Yeah,

because it's the first time that like

we saw that chest to bar

thruster combination in week two.

Like we've seen thrusters in

week two with double unders

with the dumbbell in twenty

twenty twenty point two.

But or we've seen a heavy thruster,

I guess, in twenty three point one,

whatever that was,

the second part of that.

But that combination of that

higher skill gymnastics

progression with heavier

thrusters is normally a week three.

Mm hmm.

So I could have seen that.

I mean,

we may have been able to guess it

at that point since we knew

there was a repeat happening.

So I think that's why you

had to put it in the first

or second week.

If we didn't know that there

was a repeat coming,

maybe then you can kind of

keep it more secret there.

But what's a secret these

days in CrossFit?

I'm going to hit a couple comments here,

Lana.

We had a blast.

One more day to go.

Craig, I was happy to see Jeff, Ariel,

et cetera, participated.

Yeah.

Ken, we already talked about that one.

Good announcements, bad.

Haley didn't have a female competitor.

I do agree with that it

would have been I think it

would have helped Haley on

that first one to just even

though like she's she said

that she's not you know at

her peak right now I think

mentally if she has another

female beside her it just

is a like a more fun race

for her to do um clock

Haley was on her own kind

of odd doesn't mayhem have

another any tough females

they have plenty plenty

yeah they're loaded

Ooh, look at this Masters athlete,

Katrina LeClaire.

It's nice having it only be three weeks,

but I missed the five-week

open because there was more

variety and more scores.

But I will tell you from a

gym owner's perspective,

and when I was coaching at

a gym and we had to devote

so much time to it, man,

five weeks just about killed you.

I think three weeks is perfect,

but I do think that they

could do a double score.

And it doesn't need to be a lift,

but some sort of a double

scored event on one of the

weekends where there's two shorter,

you know,

two moderate time where people

could still fit both scores within,

let's say, a half hour time frame.

Because if people do hour

classes and let's say they have two heats,

you can still kind of run that.

But yeah, I think...

I think the three week is

better for the affiliates.

The good,

I would say I enjoyed the fifteen foot.

I thought that was new.

Like that was different.

I think that's better for

the affiliates than always

the twenty five foot,

where sometimes the camera

needs to be so far away and

then you can't even see the

movement that people are doing.

I think improvement still on

the multiple barbells.

I think that's still very

tough on the affiliates.

That's something to maybe think about.

Doing it once in the open is fine.

Maybe doing it twice is like, you know,

it starts becoming more

difficult to run some of it.

So I think the three-week open is fine,

and it would be awesome if

the scores move forward,

like Carolyn has been

preaching for months.

If those three scores move

forward to the next stage of the event,

and then you have a more

well-rounded score at the

next stage because you add

those three to the next four or five,

then you have a really good test.

And then three-week open is fine.

Yes, one thousand percent like that.

And not like an overall like

you just take away the the

ninety nine percent and you

just put them all together.

I mean, I think I've I've said it enough.

I'd say ugly to me is the standards.

Holy cow.

I can't even.

Yeah, that video today is so bad.

Cleans kill me.

It's one it's one thing that.

Oh.

The standards are bad,

but it's also the people in

the comments being like,

my gym holds everyone to

the highest standards.

I'm like, no, your gym doesn't.

Everyone talks in the

comments like they hold

their people to the highest

standards and they move so well.

And I'm like, do you?

Because a lot of people that talk,

they move bad.

You can go watch all of my

athletes' videos.

Let me know how they move.

Agreed on the standards.

Still something to get

pushed and keep harping on

it because people got to move better.

I feel like the elites had

some questionable elbows.

To show that and that's how

we're going to move is the

problem in this sport.

Yeah, that,

that is the problem is when you,

when you see the announcement have reps,

so you're like pretty close.

Yeah.

And then it just kind of

trickles down after that

for the rest of the community.

Um,

I think a lot of people are

just fast at talking about

the standards and then themselves,

they don't move well is

what I'm getting to.

It's that people need to

start looking more at

themselves and analyzing

their own videos and their

own movements and also

taking accountability for

their own movements and

starting to just hold

yourself to a higher standard.

as an athlete.

Sometimes I just can't

believe some of the things

people post online on Instagram.

I'm like,

did you look back at your video

and look at your reps?

Cause it's like a lot of

what you're posting is just not good.

Like I always make sure when

I'm posting something, they're like,

I'm moving well.

Like Tristan says,

I found no less than ten

people with sub twelve,

thirteen scores on this one

and their movement is trash.

Yeah.

Pull up his next comment.

Cause

that's where I'm at like

he's right there really is

no point in complaining

because but it's so

frustrating go ahead and

read it uh there's no point

complaining about it it's

an online format with no

punishment which is where

we are there's there's not

no point to even complain

about it at this point it

is it's the problem of the

online format and no no

repercussion again unless

everyone's video is going to be up there

That's the thing is you only

see a few and you're like, this is bad.

But then most of the people

that don't have videos are even worse.

And that's the thing is it's like,

just because you're at an

affiliate does not mean

that you have good standards.

No.

like at all, but we hide,

we hide the videos are

probably going to move better.

And the sad thing is those

are still so bad that

imagining what's happening

and an unvideoed affiliate workout.

Yeah.

Because if you know,

you're posting your video, you know,

you're moving a little bit

more with normally.

I mean, that's,

that would go through my head.

If I'm posting this video,

I need to make sure that I'm moving well.

So those videos are normally better.

than the ones in the affiliate.

Because the ones in the affiliate,

most of the time, unless you're an elite,

you're not filming and

you're just getting away with everything.

But your affiliate owner

will just validate whatever

score is there.

It doesn't matter, mistakes on it or not.

It's just, oh yeah, that sounds good.

And it goes and affects the leaderboard,

which is why open the video, one percent,

and there should be some

sort of flag on videos.

Like some sort of color on

the leaderboard if there's

a certain amount of, let's say,

needs review.

Because right now someone

can have ten or fifteen needs review,

but nothing happens.

Like you don't you won't

even see it like affecting.

But there should be like

here's leaderboard.

If someone has some sort of needs review,

all of a sudden their name

or their score becomes yellow or red.

So then it's like, oh,

let's go look at that one.

And if it has all good, I don't know,

you're green for something.

It would just be more

visually like just easier

to see if something needs to get changed.

Yeah.

Clock says open goodness.

Colton's movement on twenty

five point two.

Why?

While setting the top score.

He's so good.

He did.

Amen.

I mean, Miriam, too, though.

Let's give her credit, too.

She is amazing.

On these workouts.

So back here, Corey,

when I first went to my gym

and first started coaching,

we were big into MCI,

and that's just not a

long-distance phone company

from the eighties, but mechanics,

consistency, intensity.

And you don't get to move on

to the next letter until

you master the one before it.

And it,

it feels like that gets just thrown away.

And when it comes open time,

everybody's trying to skirt the line.

And if you watch the behind the scenes,

Sprague is asking his judge

who is Chuck Carswell.

Like my elbow is, am I good here?

Am I good here?

Like he's asking where Chuck

is going to let it go.

I hate that.

And I get,

as long as you're meeting the standard,

I mean, that's fine.

And the judge upholds that standard.

You don't have to go past it.

But it just shows, like,

that they're looking for

the quickest line between A and B. I mean,

you see the picture of Allison Scudds.

And you're not supposed to

make it questionable.

Just put your freaking elbows out front.

But elbows in front does not

need to be where Allison Scud's are.

That's how I do mine.

Okay.

Well, that's not the standard.

That's the picture,

and I'm meeting the picture.

I'm meeting the picture.

I'm not leaving it up.

They're pointing east.

They're up so high.

I can't get mine that high.

They don't need to be that high.

They just need to be past the bar.

There are lots of videos

where they are not even

close to being under the bar.

Right.

Let's see.

Let's the hardest one is it's the,

it's there,

but it's as they're extending their knees,

it's already above.

That's the one that's tough

as people go really fast on

their singles.

And it's just so light.

Cause it just like you catch

in a like pseudo power slash muscle,

like basically a muscle pain, but like,

it's like a little bit of a power.

And as soon as you extend,

it's already up.

Your elbows can be a little

bit in front still,

but at that point it's,

there's a lot of reps that

are like that at the elite level a lot.

Um,

like I have to continuously remind

myself to like,

not do that as it gets like

when it's light to,

cause that's an easy one to, um, to do.

I'm with Larry.

My elbows won't go that high.

They just will not.

I just like, I make Jim slow down.

Like I'm like,

just don't try to go that fast where it,

to me, it looks like you're trying to,

to get out of, like,

if you just show me that

half second pause,

I know you've attempted

your best to get wherever you're in.

Jim gets through, but like with handstand,

pushup, lockout, anything.

I'm like,

if you aren't just like trying to do this,

where it looks like you're

just trying to go as fast as possible.

And you're at least pausing

to where you're pausing.

And I know you're in control.

That shows me that you're

trying and you're not just trying.

Speeding through it.

I need to speak to Aaron.

Work on mobility.

I've been working on

mobility since two thousand eleven.

When I work on it,

I couldn't even get my

elbows in front of the bar.

I couldn't in the front rack,

get the bar to touch my collarbone.

And guess what?

I can rest in the front rack now.

It actually rests on my

collarbone and my shoulders.

I have improved my mobility immensely.

I ain't hitting Allison Scud's, though.

It just ain't happening.

I got to work on my front rack mobility.

I mean, fourteen years to get to that.

Dent says, Tristan Patrick,

your athletes move very well.

They do.

They do.

Nicole.

I'm actually up to a full fist, man.

It's taken me forever to get there.

Um, so yeah, we are.

Wow.

We have half an agenda.

Um, I,

I don't know if WFP made a ton of

announcements this weekend.

Let me hit the quick hitting news first.

And then if we get time,

we'll get to this.

If not, we'll hit it later.

And there was the high rocks

this weekend to that.

Yeah.

A couple of world records.

First thing Tia and her

partner broke the word.

This is quick hit news.

T and her partner broke the

world record and high rocks

pro doubles at the Houston

high rocks this weekend.

Still James?

No.

Two females.

This was two females.

She teamed up with one of

the best high rocksters.

She's new to the scene,

but she's crushing it from Australia.

Tall, blonde girl.

I think her name is Joanna.

Okay.

She...

Yeah,

she's very up there right now in the

sport,

and I think she's relatively new to it.

I mean,

I feel like a lot of people are

relatively new to it.

But yeah,

they broke the world record for

the double females.

And Alex Parker was

competing in that one too,

which I want to give her a shout out too.

Alex Parker was with Lindsay Martin,

I think another Canadian.

They were, I think, in the top six,

and it was their first High

Rocks together.

I would like to see Christie

Aramo O'Connell and Alex

Parker together or with Tia, some sort of,

um, woman's games together.

Cause those are those,

those two were probably our

best runners as

CrossFitters that we've seen.

One of my close friends was

at the Houston high rocks and on Snapchat,

she had video of Tia and

her partner running.

It looked like everybody

else was standing still.

They probably were.

It was insane, insane.

Tia's body has changed a lot too.

I've noticed like from just

training the high rocks right now,

like I find that her muscle mass has,

has decreased in some of her videos.

Like just looking at her

back when she was like

rowing and where it was

like when she's really

training for CrossFit and

strength training and lifting, like it's,

you can definitely tell

she's running a lot and

working on the high rock side of it.

And I mean,

she's crushing it right now for

the high rocks.

It's just going to be interesting to see,

um,

how she's able to juggle

that and get back to her

top form for the crossfit

games I mean I have no

doubt that she can she's

the best to ever do it um

but yeah it's just she's so

fit in the running space

right now uh craig says

christian patrick stopped

by the shred shed while

justin was doing twenty

five three I didn't see

that score for twenty five

point three yet I didn't see it yet

I'll be curious what she does in this one.

You women don't post your

scores until like the last minute.

The women are so bad.

Yeah, we're secretive.

The next piece of news is

Guy has decided to not

compete in the CrossFit Games season.

He is focusing on the WFP.

Um,

and George Sterner received a backfill

to the mayhem classic.

And I just had a question.

Has anybody had or vaulted

in name recognition more

than George Sterner this

open because of a goofy guy

walking through his open workout video,

he has now become a Insta famous.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, as well as his performances,

he's been crushing it in the open,

and he does have a history

of being extremely high up

there in the sport.

Yeah, it's nice to see him back in it.

I'm excited he got the backfill.

He's good.

He's got some strengths that, like, yeah,

he's got some capacity all right.

Yeah.

We'll quickly go through

some of this WFP stuff.

They opened up their media

application on Thursday.

I did apply.

We'll find out, I think,

tomorrow if we get in or not.

But I am getting press

releases from them now.

I've gotten a few of them

over the weekend.

Uh, the Adler video they put up, uh,

came down because of a copyright strike.

Um, and from what I understand,

there was a lot of games footage in it.

And if you sign the media

agreement with CrossFit,

you were only allowed to use in,

in one video,

like no more than three

minutes of footage,

no more than three seconds

of one continuous piece.

Like that's what it says in

our agreement when we signed with them.

So I'm assuming that is what happened.

Um,

have a new show called on

the pulse it's a new show

with um laura and is it

laura lauren um the english

lady uh she she always does

like the european semi oh I

think it's lauren lauren

lauren laura laura

I know what you're talking

about because she was at MSC.

Brunette.

Her and Tommy Marquez host The Pulse.

They actually interviewed

Will Saxon and the guy from

Australia is going to be

their play-by-play guy.

They had him on and they

talked about the upcoming

season with a lot of information.

It filled in a lot of holes

for what they are doing.

Um, more,

more had stated the more intense

video review than ever,

they will be doing all top

videos and then anything

else that affects the leaderboard, uh,

for the challenger, uh, submissions, um,

challenger division gets no payout.

Yeah.

So I'm so confused because I

feel like the last time we

had information, we were on here.

we were talking about Lauren

Smith is who is the host of the pulse.

I could have sworn somebody

had like confirmed there

was no payout for the community, for the,

like for the masters team,

the community divisions get a payout.

Yeah.

That was when we talked

about it before everyone was like,

there's no payout for the

community division.

It's all in the, so now we're now we've,

Everybody gets paid except for the chat.

So if you're a challenger

that makes the pro division,

you'll get paid.

Right.

If you are a challenger that

goes in that next twenty,

there is no payout.

I mean,

I like backed off of wanting to go

for the Masters because

Austin is the Australian guy.

Yeah, it seemed pointless.

Because they gave no

information on that and

they said it was a community, no prize,

no anything.

I think it's any podium

finished in the community

divisions wins money.

I mean, where was this information?

It was on their Instagram.

We've had it on here.

Is it just the pairs or is

there an individual for Masters?

It's only pairs and teams.

I think at this point.

I don't know about that.

I don't know.

See, there's not enough information.

They are creating affiliates.

They put out a press release.

I put that all in our notes

if you guys wanted to look at that.

They had Saxon Pancheck on the Pulse.

He is leading that,

and it sounds like he is done competing.

He is putting everything in

his heart and soul into

developing this community.

Some people who have already

joined are actually doing both.

They are doing CrossFit and WFP.

I'm just confused what you

get for the affiliation.

So it's in the press release

that I have in our notes.

get to use the name WFP?

There's like,

there's a profit sharing piece.

There's a,

there's a little bit more than

what you would even get for.

I'm trying to find that piece of it.

Media exposure, profit sharing,

community member engagement, buying power,

cost savings, and more.

I just think it's early to ask.

I guess like we haven't seen anything,

right?

Like from the WFP for people to,

it's a chance that you're

taking as an affiliate to buy into it,

two grand or whatever it is.

Yeah, and that's only for the original.

You haven't seen anything.

Like I would be kind of

weighing to see it.

I mean,

people are putting a lot of trust

into seeing it, but I don't know.

And they are allowing garage

affiliation too.

But they're doing a first fifty.

They're called the founding fifty.

And then I don't know if the

price will go up or what after that.

There's really nothing in

the release about that.

But the options... What do

the High Rocks affiliation fees cost?

Because I think there's also that too,

right?

There's just so many.

So expensive on these gyms.

It's already hard to be a gym.

I feel like very few are super successful.

And then if you start adding

a CrossFit affiliation fee,

a High Rocks affiliation fee, this,

your members are going to

get charged a bunch now.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Craig says, well, they get fifty.

They already have some.

So I don't I don't know.

And then there's there's the Metfix,

which is supposed to be

like Glassman has said,

he's not trying to be CrossFit.

He's trying to do something in.

In.

And hand in hand with

CrossFit that you should do

CrossFit and Metfix.

It's more of the science and

the nutrition side.

That's metabolic fixing technically.

Is that what that stands for?

Like a metabolic,

like more nutrition stuff?

I think so.

It's, it is a nutrition piece.

Um, uh, didn't, um,

Jenny says that she heard

high rocks was fifteen hundred.

Yeah.

Uh, they also,

the last thing about WFP and

we can talk about,

I'll read more into this.

I did like just a crash

course today on everything, but the, um,

they released a new video

series called beyond the

athlete that debuted today.

I watched it.

It's kind of one of those

where like they pose a

question and then like two

or three athletes answer the question.

Yeah.

And then they answer that a

little bit more.

Some of them are fitness related.

Some of them are not.

It was, I don't know.

It was okay.

With the promise of them

doing more media coverage

and more to get people

pumped up about the WFP,

I was expecting more,

but I didn't see the Adler

video because it got pulled

before I could see it.

But this was just meh to me.

Yeah, this one was meh.

The Adler one I did enjoy.

I saw that one the day it

was released before it got taken down.

I liked that one.

I got to see

adler talked about a few

things that he hadn't

talked about before in

terms of like his dad and

stuff um but yeah I mean

time will tell for the wfp

and obviously their

challenger stuff starts

this week is it just the

challenger division that

starts this week or is it

is there other divisions

that are doing this

qualifier is it just that

you don't have to qualify

for the other divisions

it's just the first people

to sign up it's a sign up thing cool um

I probably said it better.

I watched it.

It was short and fun.

Nothing groundbreaking,

but I'll likely watch when

they put out more.

Yeah, it wasn't even that long.

It was like twelve, thirteen minutes,

something like that.

And that that probably

describes it better than my math.

It was nothing groundbreaking.

I'll probably watch the next

one they put out.

Alexis Raptus is like in every question.

The other people kind of hit and miss.

And I think it's just

because she was more open

about things she's doing

and things she's battling

and things she's going

through than some of the other athletes.

But if you like Alexis Raptus,

you'll probably like this

one because there's a

little bit of Yonikoski,

a little bit of Noah.

And Emmental.

And Emmental.

but it's,

it's pretty much the Alexis

Raptor show on this one.

So Lynn says Adler's was so fun.

I related to him and Carolyn

a whole lot more now.

So I've always liked Jeff and Caroline.

They've been,

and we had Jeff on back before he,

was a star.

Do they not cook?

Apparently, they don't cook.

Yeah, they keep it simple, basically.

They'll do food for a little bit,

a couple days, and then nothing.

It's very routine,

which is what you expect.

I think most of those athletes,

I feel like,

get a nutrition company that

sends them food,

which is a lot of times more blah.

They'll sell it online,

but I feel like it needs a

lot of sauce or seasoning or very,

or like their significant other will,

will cook.

I don't think a lot of them

cook for themselves, which is sad.

Lynn also said Emma T looked amazing,

by the way.

The one thing I will tell

you that you learn in this

is that she is madly,

deeply in love with David Shrunkey.

everything that she was

asked about like who her um

who her idol was or her but

it's everything is david

everything and and you can

even hear the person behind

a camera going you can't

answer david for everything

that's our best friend so

uh see it was like like vi

said it was good nothing

earth breaking or nothing

groundbreaking but um you know good

And we'll see what else they bring out.

And hopefully they figure

out the copyright stuff and

not break media agreements

and copyright agreements.

Well, in it,

they had previewed like the

next one was going to be

like Laura Horvath.

And they're probably

backtracking now and making

sure that that's going to

be good before they put it

out because of the

copyright for the Jeff Adler one.

Because it looked like the

next one was Horvath that

they were promoting at the very,

very end of the episode.

Yeah.

It's interesting.

Cause you would think the

buttery bros would know

that rule or have they been

able to get away with it?

Cause most of the stuff has

been promoting CrossFit.

That's probably true.

And they just let it happen

because you're promoting us.

Now you're promoting these

other people who are trying

to start affiliates and do

all this stuff.

Now we're going to be strict.

Yeah, probably.

But that's CrossFit's job, right,

is to protect their name.

It's like when affiliates...

I won't call them affiliates.

When gyms claim that they're CrossFit gyms,

but they haven't paid their affiliation,

you want to make sure if

you Google in the area,

CrossFit gym and this,

that another gym doesn't

pop up that's not affiliated.

CrossFit has, for a long time,

done a lot of legal battles

and stuff with...

uh making sure that people

don't use the name because

it's you want it to be

helping the affiliates that

are paying the fees so I'm

not surprised that

crossfit's you know

defending itself here like

they they should I feel

like that's their job

that's what the affiliation

fees also pay into is this

kind of stuff to to protect the brand um

Yeah,

it'll just be interesting with the

WFP and just the direction

they'll go with their name and

I mean, cause it's, it's CrossFit, right.

Um, but I mean, I, again,

I hope they're successful.

I just,

I just have a hard time seeing two

competing leagues be successful.

I've just seen it happen in

my sports and it just didn't really work.

It separated the sponsors and the fans.

And I think until everyone's united, um,

that's the only way forward to me.

Um, but I mean, if I hope it works,

obviously, like I don't, I want the most,

the most amount of

opportunities for athletes to,

to make a living from, you know,

a sport that we love.

Um, I hope that, you know,

to get to their people go

and train that affiliates.

Cause that's where, you know,

the fittest are built.

But yeah, it'll be interesting to see how,

you know,

this next year and just how it

all plays out.

Avai says on TEF, Sean said,

there used to be copyright

issues all the time when he worked there,

and HQ never pursued anyone

in this manner.

But I understand why they're doing it.

This seems like direct competition.

I will tell you,

I have seen people use the

footage they got at the

games in an illegal manner

and watch them escorted out of the games,

get their media credentials taken away,

clipped off their wrist,

and escorted out of the building.

Now this is not at the games.

Like this person took stuff,

gave it to a company that

was not affiliated with

CrossFit and let them use

that for advertising.

Um, but yeah,

I don't think there's ever

been a direct competitor

really coming after

CrossFit like this and

they're going to protect their house.

Yeah.

It's just, it's crazy.

Cause like all of these things that,

that are like different versions of,

you know, CrossFit,

like the high rocks is, is an event,

right?

It's not, but it, you know,

if you go to a CrossFit affiliate,

you can train very well for this event.

Obviously you have to have

extremely good running capacity,

but it's just too bad that

it's not all working

together and just kind of

yeah, just more working together.

Like we can be promoting

high rocks as they could be

sending people to, you know,

affiliates and vice versa.

And we're sending athletes

to their events and same with the WFP and,

you know, and just really grow together.

Um, yeah, it's a missed opportunity,

I guess, but, um,

we are long so I'm gonna cut

it we didn't even talk

about crossfit getting sold

or being put up for sale old news

Um,

but hopefully we'll learn more about

that as we move forward and we can,

next week we will,

we'll just close out and we

won't have any new workout to talk about.

We'll have some of the

challenger stuff for the

WFP to talk about some stuff like that,

but, uh, we'll be back next week.

We'll get into more detail

about what WFP is doing as

their challenger is live

and the challenger qualifier.

We'll look at who is going for it.

I saw one of the three of us

on the leaderboard already

in the Challenger leaderboard.

Just so you know,

I put my hand in the ring.

I got my confidence up after this open.

Not.

Not me.

But one of the three of us has signed up.

I haven't decided yet

whether I'm doing it.

I put my money in there just

to support them right away.

But

Well, we'll see.

So next week we'll talk about that.

We'll talk about the

leaderboard and the qualifiers.

We'll talk about the sale of CrossFit.

We'll talk about anything

else that comes out about

the WFP and we'll finish up

twenty five point three

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