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Seth Baumgartner and Jason Van Leuven open the mics for your crop steering and cultivation questions.
Kaisha [00:00:00]:
You all right? What's up, Gromies? Welcome to Office HOuRS, your source for free cannabis cultivation education. My name is Kaisha, and I am your moderator for episode 86. Welcome to the show, and here's how we do it. I'll keep an eye out for questions in the hangouts chat. Feel free to drop them anytime. And if your question gets picked, we'll get right to it. We're also live on YouTube and Instagram. It's the same idea.
Kaisha [00:00:20]:
If you're logging on over there, post your question. We'll do our best to cover it during the show. We got Jay in the studio today. Hi, Jason. How you doing? Are you recovered from MJ BizCon in Vegas last week?
Jason [00:00:30]:
Yeah, absolutely. We had a great show. Nice turnout. It's fun to have the floor organized a little bit. And first year we had a really big booth. Felt great being able to converse with clients and meet new people, get some product out there.
Kaisha [00:00:45]:
That's right. For real, it was a very exciting week, and just a shout out to everybody that came by and talked to us. It was just such a good experience. So with that, you ready for our first question?
Jason [00:00:55]:
Yeah, let's get going.
Kaisha [00:00:56]:
Let's get right to it. All right. Nas wrote in asking, what are the differences between the new terrace one substrate sensor and the terrace twelve? You want to break it down for us?
Jason [00:01:06]:
Yeah, absolutely. And I can just do a little screen share here with some documentation that we've got behind this thing. So if we just jump into Roya Io and check out the new Terra Swan, obviously now it's got two prongs. The terrace twelve had three prongs. Basically what's going on is we've developed a new technology for measuring electrical connectivity and water content in these substrates. So previously, the terrace Twelve had been a capacitance based sensor, and most of the sensors on the market are either capacitance based, resistance based, or TDR time domain reflectometry. And in this case, the new terrace one is complex dielectric measurement. And what this allows us to do is make really accurate measurements, even at extremely low water contents.
Jason [00:01:57]:
So in application, really, the biggest difference that we're going to see is if we're running really low water contents during our hard drive acts, say we're pushing under 25%, lower than 20% water content, we're going to see that the ECs are going to be much more accurate using the tariffs one than any sensor on the market. Yeah, the tariffs twelve has been the golden standard of sensors for the last six years. Five, six years. And now we've had the time, the energy, and we've put the investment into a new patented technology which is all incorporated into the terrace one. So if we take a look at basically what happens when we get to higher ECs and especially lower water contents, some of these sensors struggle to get exact measurements of EC specifically. And this chart here is just displaying. All right, here's some of the competitor sensors that people have tried to intimidate to try and copy the TEROS twelve. Obviously at different EC levels, there's a vast degree of accuracy.
Jason [00:03:03]:
Terrace twelve here in the middle, a little bit better. And then now we can see here on the terrace one, all of these measurements are very precise, very accurate.
Kaisha [00:03:16]:
Fantastic. I dropped in the chat. We've got a white paper if you want to learn more about the science behind the terrace one. And of course, I dropped a link to the webpage that Jason was just on. But yeah, please do explore. Hit us up with any questions you have. We're so excited to launch that Jason, thank you so much for that.
Jason [00:03:33]:
Absolutely. And you know, for existing clients, we've got a trade in program which we're encouraging people to get, you know, turn your old equipment in and get some credit and a great price on the new stuff.
Kaisha [00:03:47]:
Fantastic. Yep. Lots coming down the pipeline for AROYA. So exciting stuff. Okay, we're going to get back into the Q A aspect of the show. This first question came in just now on YouTube from Gilnextor. They write, when's the best time to start foliar spray?
Jason [00:04:04]:
It depends what you're applying in your foliar spray. So obviously, if we're doing some type of pesticide application in the foliar spray, we really never want to do it too late in flower. So maybe first two, three weeks in flowers, opportunity to spray anything that's going to give some time for residual to grow off, to dust off and no longer be in the product when it's processed as flower. Some of the beneficial sprays that we could put in a foliar, you can spray them throughout the cycle. Typically it's not going to hurt anything to do with Polaris phrase as early as badge.
Kaisha [00:04:45]:
Awesome. Gil, thanks for dropping that question. Let us know if you have any follow ups. But with that, we're going to keep going. We got another question here on YouTube. This one came from Danny. They wrote, I just added CO2 tank went from 600 to 1200. Been running at 1000 ppfD, average 81, I guess, Fahrenheit F 65% before CO2 Should I up my EC or only if I raise my light level? Thank you.
Jason [00:05:14]:
Yeah. So in previous episodes we used to talk about the relationship between light and CO2 being one of the most important as far as balancing what our inputs are. And so if we have the ability to be up in that, say 1000 pPFD, maybe 1100, if you're going really hard and you have things dialed in, you might even go a little bit higher than that and that'll be great. If you can get your CO2 at 1200, then lights at 1000 ppFD is going to be a great way to optimize crop growth. As far as taking an idea of do you need to up your EC? The easiest way to answer that question is by doing some measurements. Obviously if you have an Arroya system, super easy to look at your time series data and see that, hey, maybe my EC isn't high enough and I'm losing nutrient content throughout the day as the plant's eating all that up. And if you don't have a system like that, then make sure you are taking runoff measurements. Keep an idea if you are getting enough nutrients in there, kind of.
Jason [00:06:17]:
It's just as a baseline and it is different for different nutrient manufacturers and it is different for different cultivars, what the best feed is going to be. But usually when we're in HPS rooms in pretty good conditions, we'll be talking about 300:35 for our feed EC levels and then typically for LEDs, we'll start in that three, five to four oh range.
Kaisha [00:06:45]:
Thank you so much for that, Jason. Danny, thank you for your question again. Yeah, if you have any follow ups, definitely feel free to drop them on the chat over there. All right, I've got a couple questions here from Mitchell submitted. There was a couple. Oh, got a little comment here from Cypher. Love the inspired by sensor. You guys are very kind not to throw that censor under the bus.
Kaisha [00:07:03]:
I mean, they even borrowed from the terrace name. You know, you said it, we didn't. Thank you for noticing, Chris. Love it. All right, a couple questions came through from Mitchell a few weeks ago that we didn't get to, so I'm going to go ahead and ask those. They wrote in, I have a large veg space and two flower rooms. The way I'm doing it now is four plants per light, five gallon pots, hand feeding and cocoa perlite, six week veg. Would it be better to put twelve per light, one gallon, 21 day veg or should I keep it at four per light and go down to a three gallon pot.
Kaisha [00:07:39]:
I want to find the best way to execute this. Thank you.
Jason [00:07:43]:
Yeah, so if you are hand feeding, obviously you are going to end up probably wanting to be a little bit larger pot just because you don't have the option for doing a lot of irrigations throughout the day unless you're just with your plants and you don't have too many in order to do multiple feeds a day. As far as the optimized, it's going to depend a little bit on your light. And it's one of the reasons that I always like to talk about plants per square foot as a metric that we use for attributing canopy density and then looking at light as an actual PPFD measurement. And really what it kind of comes down to is, all right, if we're trying to optimize what our planning density is, then we need to get an idea of how much light is across the board, how much space do we have and how many plants can we run in there, right. And so typically in a five gallon. Yeah, it's going to be a little bit trickier to root in throughout the cycle. You're going to have some struggles doing any of the crop steering stuff that we suggest. And so you might first give it a chance to go into those three gallons, might give you a little bit better opportunity for some bulking later in the cycle.
Jason [00:08:57]:
And also it's going to be a little bit faster to rot in, get those plants happy, hungry, healthy and on their way to success as fast as possible. So if I was you, probably the first step I would do is, yeah, get into some three gallons, maybe not change any other variables, and then start thinking about investing in some automated drip irrigation systems. You really don't have to spend that much in order to get into a reasonably decent drip system. Make sure you're getting some of the low flow emitters. 0.5s are great. 0.3s are my favorite. And then you can still hand mix your batch tanks. Just get some type of pump to get things pressurized.
Jason [00:09:39]:
And if you're like a basement grow, you can actually skip the valves and just use your pump direct to the drip emitters and have that pump activate when you want to run your irrigation systems. So that's where I would be if I was you, is all right. Let's see if we can optimize some of our root zone and then start optimizing some efficiency to give you a little bit better flexibility as far as what that planting density looks like in relationship to pot size. And how much control you have over that plant morphology throughout the cycle.
Kaisha [00:10:13]:
Amazing tips, Jason. Thank you so much for that. All right. And then Mitchell's second question, which we talk about optimal EC levels. He wrote, if I go above three EC, my plants always burn. How are you going as high as four or higher? Give them some insights.
Jason [00:10:30]:
Yeah, and so it's kind of an interesting thing when we think about burning. Typically with cannabis, it's a very tolerant plant for much higher EC levels. Probably what's going on in your circumstance is there might be some other limiting factor in there. So maybe you just don't have a very good environment for the plants. And so you're seeing some nutrient imbalance that's showing us what you're calling Tip burn. In this case, most of the time when we do see tip burn, unless we're at extremely high ECs, usually that's going to be related to a nutrient imbalance, an environmental issue, a light issue. Maybe you're not doing any supplemental CO2. Typically, those are the types of things that will represent themselves fairly quickly and cause a nutrient imbalance versus it being the actual EC level that's causing that.
Jason [00:11:28]:
And another thing that you might take a look at is what's your nutrient manufacturer recommending? And are there some other opportunities in there for you to keep a check on things? So are you making sure that your runoff pH is always in check? Are you doing pH checks on your feed nutrients or your feed at the drippers themselves or at the end of the hand wand? Sometimes you'll just see some instability in those PHs. And then also, have you had an irrigation water test? So if you're on a well, make sure that you get that tested. If you're on city water, get it tested and try and understand. Hey, do we need to make sure that we're treating this water for specific contaminants or chemicals in there? Do we need to invest full RO system so that everything that's going into our water is a known quantity? Those are the places that I would start before I got too far into saying, hey, I can't run higher ECs. It's likely that you can modify something else that's going on in the system and then the plants will actually thrive when you're up in that 30 plus range.
Kaisha [00:12:41]:
Thank you so much for that, Jason. And actually, just a shout out to Mitchell. Last week we had Tyler Simmons from front Row AG on the show, and there was a lot of discussion around nutrient imbalances and EC levels. So do check out that episode if you hadn't yet. But thank you for that answer, Jason. All right, we just got this question in from Instagram. They included a photo. I'm going to see if I can get the photo over to you.
Kaisha [00:13:03]:
But they write, I'm having issues with my flowers having a long stem at the top of the flower with small buds on it and big buds alone. Let me see if I can share this photo from you from week 7.5. But yeah. Any insights into why someone would be experienced different size, different stem lengths within their plant like that?
Jason [00:13:29]:
It could be due to some inconsistencies in how they're irrigating or other environmental factors that are causing that, making sure that light levels are up where they need to be. So a lot of times what's going on there is the plant is expressing its morphology, its shape, based on some physiological response. So the physiology is, all right, what kind of chemical actions are going on inside of that plant? What is that plant doing in response to what it's feeling, whether that be nutrients, irrigation, light, CO2, temperature, humidity. And so typically one of those or multiple of those in combination are going to be responsible for the shape of it, the morphology, the size bud structure, that type of stuff. So really kind of comes down to is understanding, hey, did we maybe push too hard vegetatively and we're causing stem elongation? We're not getting the node spacing that we want, we're not getting our buds to stack up like we'd like. And so it kind of comes down to analyzing. All right, is there one variable that is significantly off and that's just corresponding to it, or did we just simply do some crop steering in one direction that was not well represented by the plant? And there are certain strains that are just a little bit more susceptible to this type of actions. I'm not sure.
Jason [00:14:52]:
It doesn't sound exactly like box tailing that you're running into. Sounds a little bit more like possibly just running vegetative type of irrigations for too long or maybe not having enough light during a specific period in the grow cycle. Oh, all right, looks like we got it in the Google chat here.
Kaisha [00:15:13]:
Oh, yay. Good.
Jason [00:15:19]:
All right. And I can pull it up for everybody. I do believe. Give me just a minute to open.
Kaisha [00:15:32]:
This up and share it on the fun new element. We usually don't share photos, but we love to receive them. So this will be fun. Live Internet broadcast, folks. Bear with us.
Jason [00:15:46]:
Yeah, this one. Can you all see it in there? Cool. Yeah, this almost possibly looks like some hop latent virus. And I guess an easy way to tell would be, all right, are all the plants doing that in there? If all of them are, then there's a good chance that you might have an infection. If it's just one or two, definitely would be checking for hoplate environments. Hop latent virus. Excuse me. One of the ways that I like to kind of do an easy check, and it's not like a sure sure thing.
Jason [00:16:20]:
I mean, the most sure sure thing is get some samples in and test them. But take some of the lower stems and just kind of break them. See if they're very brittle. A lot of times hoplite infected plant will just have extremely brittle stems. So thank you for that picture. Yeah, everything I said earlier is still applicable, but that picture does give me a lot better direction on probably would be checking for poplate. One of the first things if I saw that in the.
Kaisha [00:16:52]:
Oh yeah, for sure. Flow farm. Thank you so much for sharing the image. And yeah, Hopladin virus is not the best news. We don't want to hear that too much, but good luck over there. Let us know if you have any more questions. All right, we're going to keep it moving here. So we got some more questions on YouTube.
Kaisha [00:17:07]:
Dan dropped this one. They wrote, what should I do if my runoff PH is rising too much? I have a feeling my feed EC is too low. 3.3 under led.
Jason [00:17:19]:
He kind of answered his own question there. If you're seeing rising PH, typically has to do with some type of imbalance. And a lot of times what can happen is we're just not feeding enough nutrients to the plant. It's eaten up all the specific elements, and then you're seeing that ph rise. And then next time we feed, we may not be getting enough nutrition in there to rebalance the substrate. So, yeah, definitely. I would probably see if you can get a little bit more runoff and see if you can push a little bit higher EC and that pH problem may go away. Those would be the first steps.
Kaisha [00:17:57]:
Yeah. Danny actually responded to Dan and recommended calibrate pH meter, or you may have too much runoff. So, yeah, I love that community. All right, next question. Golden Child wants to know your opinion on different brands of calcium nitrate. I see 25 pound bags for $30 for general AG and up to 120 from cannabis brand fertilizers. That's that lovely markup that happens in this industry. Is there anything different to justify the price?
Jason [00:18:30]:
Usually no. Most all of that is coming from just one or two nutrient manufacturers out there. And a lot of people are just rebranding it. They might have a little bit different processing techniques or putting some anti caking agents in there. Most of the time I'm looking at like a half year. Sorry if I don't know the pronunciation on that, but that's probably one of the best ways to get as close to the source for calcium nitrate as possible.
Kaisha [00:19:07]:
Great tips. Thank you for that, Jason. All right, just letting you all know we're going to be wrapping up the show just a little bit early, in about the next 20 minutes. So if you have questions and you're with us live, now is the time to drop them in the chat. Carlos wrote in Running vegetative steering and have been just irrigating after reaching 30% field capacity without runoff. Implants look fine. Runoff hasn't been climbing much. Is that okay?
Jason [00:19:32]:
Yeah, that's probably. All right.
Kaisha [00:19:34]:
There it is. Keep doing what you're doing, Carlos. All right, this is another question that we got some time ago. Just hadn't gotten to it. But somebody wrote in, I guess in previous episode we were talking about hypochlorous acid. This person uses clearline and was wondering if you had a rate recommended, maybe below the recommended rate on the label. I love using it at full strength, but it's kind of pricey. Got some suggestions there?
Jason [00:20:02]:
I would use it at the recommended rate simply because when we are injecting with hyperchlorous acid, we're getting a few benefits. One would just be increased dissolved oxygen that's going into the system, and then the other is helping us keep our lines clean, keeping things from clogging up. What you might do is just see if you can find another supplier that has a similar product that you also enjoy that might be a little bit more cost effective.
Kaisha [00:20:31]:
Great tips. Thank you so much for that. All right, I have one more question here that submitted a while ago. So if you have questions for us live, we want to hear from you. Definitely make sure you drop those in the chat. This person wrote in, have you guys ever had to deal with fusarium? Would you correlate that to over watering?
Jason [00:20:50]:
Yeah. So fusarium a lot of times is related just to an unhealthy red zone. And typically, if we have too high of water content for too long in the substrate, a lot of times that just means that we're not doing regular irrigations, we're not getting refreshment of oxygen and balanced nutrients into the substrate. So, yeah, absolutely. Typically, historically, you see this a lot of times in larger substrates where maybe if we're in a seven gallon and we just don't have that big a plant yet. We're not getting a lot of activity in water usage. So if we're only seeing maybe 2% water content use in a day, that's not going to be enough for us to exercise that red zone and get fresh nutrients, fresh oxygen in there. So the simple answer to that question is yes.
Kaisha [00:21:40]:
Fantastic, Jason, thank you for that. All right, Richard dropped this one in the chat in the YouTube. If you were feeding 3.0 EC at 6.2 pH, what Runoff EC and PH are you looking for?
Jason [00:21:57]:
I mean, I would usually just be seeing about the same as that. Hopefully. If you are feeding at 6.2, I'm hoping that you're in maybe slightly some type of more organic substrate. We always recommend feeding things like cocoa at around five eight and Rockwell at around five six. So we're trying to find absolutely no drift in PH from feed to runoff. And as far as the EC goes, kind of just depends on what you're trying to do with that plant. Right. If we're trying to get the EC to stack up to encourage some generative stacking, then we'll want to see that runoff be a little bit higher than our feed EC.
Jason [00:22:37]:
That's just going to encourage the fact that, hey, we are feeding enough that the plant's not running out of nutrients and we're feeding enough that when we irrigate, we're still seeing some residual salt concentration in that substrate.
Kaisha [00:22:55]:
Awesome. Thank you so much, Jason. All right, we have terp total farms on the chat right now. They have a question about the climate sensor, actually, as part of Arroya go. The first is about, they wanted to know about mounting the climate sensor. Does it do PPFD as well? So we will need to adjust its heights daily? That's the first question.
Jason [00:23:17]:
Yeah. So the new climate station, it's called the climate one. It does not have any light measurement systems on it. So we do still sell our APGS Q 521 with the royal system. It's by far one of the most accurate light sensors for under $1,000 that's available right now. I would absolutely encourage that you're using that sensor. As far as the climate one and where it gets mounted, I usually like to have it within about a foot of the top of the canopy. So you still may want to raise it up throughout the cycle, maybe two or three times just to make sure you are getting an accurate measurement of what that canopy is, because obviously the canopy is affecting a lot of your airflow in the room.
Jason [00:24:00]:
And then also the plants are going to be transpiring. So we're trying to get the best localized measurement from that sensor as possible. And that means that it's closed to the plants.
Kaisha [00:24:12]:
Fantastic. All right, thank you for that. I've got a couple more. Roy go. Questions here. The next is, looks like the antennas have two inputs. Can I add more or do I need another antenna for every zone and every two sensors?
Jason [00:24:29]:
The antennas have two inputs.
Kaisha [00:24:32]:
Are you talking about the nose antenna, maybe the climate station, I'm not sure.
Jason [00:24:40]:
Yeah, the climate station really just, it only needs one antenna. Our substrate sensors really only need one antenna. So I don't know as far as things that can use two, the substrate sensor, the nose itself or the doggle can accept two substrate sensors. Yes, that is an option. As far as using multiple antennas, I don't think mean you could get an antenna splitter off of Amazon or something and use as many antennas as you want. I don't know that it's going to make any improvements, though.
Kaisha [00:25:14]:
All right, still on the, we're going to keep talking about Aroya go a little bit here. So 60 days of data, can I get more? I mean, I think I can answer that. You can with the full Arroya system. Then you get historical data. But with Aroya go, it's 60 days worth of data. Solas, trade in. I will post the page about the trade ins total. Let's see.
Kaisha [00:25:41]:
And then to answer your question, do we have all software that facilities have? There is a different offering for Arroya go than there is for the full commercial royal system. So for Arroya go like I mentioned earlier, just 60 days of data. But I'm going to drop the trade in information on here for you and then. Yeah, perfect. We're going to keep moving. Got some more questions to answer. Turp turtle. But also, if you want to stick around after the show, let's talk in more detail.
Kaisha [00:26:07]:
Okay. All right, we got another question here from Richard Song. Richard wrote in earlier about feeding at 3.0 EC, 6.2 PH. So he wrote, if I'm feeding 3.0 EC and the runoff EC is lower, does it mean that I can feed more?
Jason [00:26:26]:
Absolutely. Yeah. I kind of just meant to say that at the end there, if we're seeing that our runoff EC is lower than our feed EC, that's an easy telltale sign that we are underfeeding. Basically what's happening is that nutrient is getting taken up by the plant and when we're irrigating if we're seeing a lower EC, that almost always means that, hey, we're going to be running out of some component in that nutrient. So we want to make sure that we get things balanced and we recharge that, get that thing back up there. And it doesn't surprise me. Three EC for most nutrient types and in most healthy growing conditions is right there at the bare minimum. And, Kaisha, it looks like we've got a few questions here about just a Roy go and says you can add multiple sets of dual sensors.
Jason [00:27:16]:
Can you elaborate? Yes. So for the AROYA Go system, you can have up to ten substrate sensors. So that might be five sets of dual sensor noses and stuff in there. We've got another node thing per zone. I mean. Yes, node thing. So like I says, two. Two dual sensors on a nose.
Jason [00:27:43]:
So for the Rayco system, let's say we've got. Let's say I've got two flower rooms. Each of them have, like, two benches. I'd end up probably putting four sensors across those two rooms, four nodes across those two rooms. Like, one node on each bench. Give me up to eight sensors across there. So it is absolutely expandable. Encourage people to buy more noses to support their growth, as detailed as possible for that Aurora Go system.
Jason [00:28:18]:
But we are limiting it at ten because we're trying to encourage larger commercial facilities to get into the full Aroya product. Roy goes is 100% intended for home grows and for commercial grows that are a little bit shy on getting on board to get their feet wet with the royal system.
Kaisha [00:28:39]:
Love it. We're already slacking over here about. We're going to have a whole episode of Office Hours dedicated to Aurora Go when it ships. So more to come, but we are so thrilled that y'all are interested. And please keep sending us your questions. All right, I'm going to go back to some crop steering cultivation questions here. Golden child dropped this one on YouTube. If I'm using hypochlorous acid from a Kangen filter, what rate would be good for direct injection into my drip lines along with my daily nutrients? Got some advice there, Jason?
Jason [00:29:11]:
What do you call it? Kangen Filter.
Kaisha [00:29:13]:
Kangen. K-A-N-G-E-N. Guessing that's a brand.
Jason [00:29:21]:
Let's see if I can find.
Kaisha [00:29:27]:
It.
Jason [00:29:34]:
I don't know exactly what a kangan is, but I would probably just try and inject at the same rate as any of the commercial hyperchlorous acids recommend.
Kaisha [00:29:51]:
That sounds like good advice. Okay, another hydrochloric acid question from Richard. I think HoCL means hydrochloric acid. Does hydrochloric acid kill microbes and beneficial?
Jason [00:30:06]:
Yeah. Yep. It know, it's one of those tricky things, though. In a lot of the hydroponic systems that we're looking at, there's not necessarily enough organics to support beneficial bacteria to survive very long. And so it's one of those situations where you might have to decide, all right, am I always injecting hyperchlorous acid? So then using some of those beneficials is probably just going to be a waste of money. Another situation might be maybe you're in cocoa and you're trying to get at least some colony of beneficials to survive, and you might lay off the HCL or hyperchlorous acid for a little while.
Kaisha [00:30:53]:
All right, golden child came back and clarified. Yes, Kangen. They put out 11.5 pH base water and 2.5 pH hydrochlorous acid.
Jason [00:31:06]:
Cool. I will have to check in more on that thing and take a look. It sounds like a neat machine.
Kaisha [00:31:13]:
Oh, yeah. One of my coworkers just dropped what is king and why? I've got some stuff to learn as well. Amazing. Thank you for that. All right. Yeah, these episodes are learning experiences for us, too, so we appreciate y'all. That was actually the last question I got live today, so we were going to wrap up early. Anything else you want to say real.
Jason [00:31:37]:
Quick before we go, Jason, it looks like we've got a question here on a roya go accommodate open sprinkler. Yes. Arroya, go system is going to allow for open sprinkler integration. So basically that's just going to allow you to set up your room irrigation schedule, right? From Aroya.
Kaisha [00:31:56]:
Oh, yes. Great. Yes. I love it. I'm glad people are asking these questions. We also got one more question here. Harold dropped this on YouTube. If I put two noses on a terrace twelve, would that be to read two different plants with the same meter? If so, is there a benefit to this over one nose per meter? I'm running a lot of sensors.
Kaisha [00:32:17]:
It's a large facility.
Jason [00:32:18]:
Yeah. Really, the whole goal of running two sensors per nose just to reduce the cost of the overall system. So, yeah, you're going to have to run wires, probably a little bit more. But what's going on is you're only buying one nose or Dongle. And actually, now that I'm reading through here, Kaisha, I'm guessing when he says, looks like the antenna, he was talking about the nose itself.
Kaisha [00:32:45]:
The nose itself. Okay. Got it.
Jason [00:32:47]:
And so to clarify for you, turp turtle. It only does support two sensors per nose, which you're calling antenna here, wireless module, Dongle. All kinds of names for that thing. Yes, it only supports two sensors. And then I think someone else on here asked if they can upgrade their royal go system to a full aria system. Yes, you can. Absolutely. So if you get purchased in and you're testing it out at your 5000 square foot facility, you like what you're getting, let us know.
Jason [00:33:23]:
Get a sales call going. We'll get you quoted up for more hardware and just get that thing upgraded.
Kaisha [00:33:29]:
Fantastic. Thank you for that, Jason. Awesome. I love the conversation around Aurora. Go. Oh, so I need one per zone. Can I add two dongles to a go order?
Jason [00:33:41]:
Yes.
Kaisha [00:33:44]:
You can scale up and expand. All right, Sasha. Actually, Sasha, if you can hang tight, let's talk about your situation. OK. Awesome. All right, we're going to wrap up a little early, y'all. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you, Jason, so much for holding it down in studio.
Kaisha [00:34:03]:
And to our producer Chris for another great session. Thank you all for joining us for this week's AROYA office hours. We do this every Thursday and the best way to get answers from the experts is to join us live to learn more about Arroya. Book a demo at Arroya IO. One of our experts will walk you through the ways the platform can help improve your cultivation production process. And while you're there, be sure to sign up for our newsletter. Just stay up to speed on all things Arroya. If you have a topic you'd like us to cover on office hours, post questions anytime in the Aroya app.
Kaisha [00:34:29]:
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