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Hello darling, this is River Roaring, celebrating the Luminous Life Force in us all. Hello, darling. This is River Roaring, and I am so excited today because I have a guest that you may have heard before. With me is Bluebird, Bluebird Collins. Welcome.
Speaker 1:Welcome. I'm so happy to be here. Yeah. I'm happy. And you're always so full of fun things to talk about.
Speaker 1:And so today, I wanna keep us focused if we can
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because it's not easy for us on Luminous future of freedom. Yeah. You've been involved in a very specific successful movement recently in Bastrop, Texas, which is a beautiful little town about thirty minutes outside of Austin that's getting bigger and bigger all the time now. But you've been in a Bastrop for a while. You are the queen of Bastrop, in
Speaker 2:my opinion.
Speaker 1:You got a cute little store downtown. Mhmm. And let's tell the audience what you've recently done in Bastrop and you and your friends and how you did it. So you you tell us.
Speaker 2:So okay. So as you know, Bastrop has become the hub of AI and data centers. And so there's been a lot happening in Bastrop. Our county has invited in, what is that, anthropic, AI anthropic. We've got all of Elon's endeavors.
Speaker 2:We have Pacifico which is a 2,800 acre data center coming into people's backyards with a 500,000 something like that square foot building that's gonna be built and all of the infrastructure that it's gonna have to bring in gas, water, electricity, all of that. That 2,500 twenty twenty eight hundred acre piece of land was, you know, ranch land range land Right. For cattle. And the building, which I want to say is upwards of 500,000 square footage God. Will how will will employee, when it's all said and done, 25 individuals.
Speaker 1:You are shocking me. My mouth is on
Speaker 2:the ground. So Bastrop is knee deep in the Texas, all the AI, all of this, you know, advancements in technology that are happening, we're ground zero K. In a lot of ways. And there window? Is there a window of opportunity?
Speaker 2:So I was driving home one day, and I live in the historic district downtown, historic district. And I already, you know, been involved in liberty and freedom movements and stuff like that, had already been, you know, hearing and doing all my research on mass AI surveillance and aggregated data collection and blah blah blah, when I noticed a Flock camera on Main Street in the heart of Downtown Bastrop. And I don't know, it just annoyed the hell out of me. This is less than a mile from my house. I have to pass it every single day.
Speaker 2:I've gone to great lengths in my own personal life to not be, you know, tracked. I don't have any kind of cameras. I don't have any smart, you know, devices or, like, appliances in my house. Don't my kit. You know, I don't do any of that.
Speaker 2:There's Faraday bags floating around my house and all sorts of alternative apps and this and that to, you know, keep ourselves free. Yeah. And so imagine how annoyed I was when I'm like, oh, great. This is I'm gonna have to pass this every single day. So I wrote a letter, an open letter.
Speaker 2:I my daughter had ice skating at Chaparral Ice while she was ice skating. I was just like, tink tink tink tink tink tink tink. I write my open letter to the city of Bastrop. My first open letter on, like, I don't appreciate, like having a camera watching me while I'm sitting here enjoying my hometown parade really is putting a damper on the hometown America vibe. And that was the gist of my letter.
Speaker 2:And the idea that where the law is, sin abounds. Where there's more and more you know, laws are going to be created criminals get created through surveillance and and this is huge. And so I wrote this letter, I posted it and was met with hundreds of comments back. So it it went Where'd you put it on Facebook? I put it in our Living in Bastrop County Facebook.
Speaker 2:Okay. Perfect. Perfect. And it was it's It sparked It sparked wildfire. A wildfire of both sides.
Speaker 2:Okay. At that first post and in the immediate post following it, a lot of negative, you know, they're just, you know, just the standard. These are only looking at your license plate.
Speaker 1:Which is not possible, but go ahead now.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Go ahead. So from there, that was July, like, fifth seventeenth or around there.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Pretty recent. So it's been pretty recent. And then I just kept hitting at it. Like, I went on a little meme making endeavor, and I've found that my my secret superpower is making biting funny memes. I just have
Speaker 1:to stop you. Your memes are so wonderful, so cute, so funny. They are just the best. I have to somehow get to the viewers. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Would it be putting your Instagram link Oh, I don't know. But I can yeah. Probably.
Speaker 1:How can we what's the best? We gotta find the best link because people who are listening have to see how cute your cartoons were.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I've had fun. I've had fun. And it is like, I didn't really expect the I've never been involved in city anything. Not I'm voter, you know, I don't Wow.
Speaker 2:I I have not participated in that way, and I didn't really ex I don't know what I I don't know what I expected. Couldn't were just expressing
Speaker 1:yourself. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Just beautifully. Sent And letter to all of the county commissioners, and I sent it to the city manager and the mayor and various other members of leadership in Bastrop. And the mayor responded to my letter. He's the only one who responded to the letter.
Speaker 2:And he said that he ultimately, he was, you know, thank you for addressing this because the letter was very respectful. Mhmm. And yes, I think we should have a conversation about it. Right? So then I posted the mayor's response.
Speaker 2:I asked him permission. It's okay, you know, can I post the whole letter? What part of this letter? Are you okay with me posting? And he and I had a little conversation and with his blessing, posted the, you know, response that he gave, which, bless his heart, he was hit with, you know, all of the accusations of he's just saying it because he wants to get voted in and da da da da da.
Speaker 2:Like, they are just it's it's a brutal world out there. Long story short, our city council last week made a move end their relationship to vote on ending their relationship with Flock, which that vote will happen tomorrow, but to immediately cover all Flock cameras. And so I would be very surprised if that vote didn't come out unanimously. What I want to say about it is that it's at the very beginning. This is just the Flock is just sort of leverage for a much bigger push that needs to happen and a much bigger conversation that needs to happen.
Speaker 1:Flock is like the current headline Yeah. Of a surveillance machine. Yes. Right? Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 1:The tip of the iceberg. So surveillance is coming at us. It's it's with us. Uh-huh. I have a neck I have across the street neighbor let me know that she's got her doorbell cam.
Speaker 1:And I haven't said anything yet, and I'm going to say something. I'm just trying to figure out exactly how to do it. I just wanna start with she's in she doesn't even live here. It's an Airbnb. Okay.
Speaker 1:She's in California, and so we're probably gonna be on a Zoom, and I'm just gonna let her know. I just want you to know I'm not comfortable with that Yeah. Because my home is now under surveillance twenty four seven, and I have clients who I wanna be discreet about, and they park right there and get their license plate read by her doorbell cam. I'm the car. And at the Super Bowl time, they were gonna share all the doorbell cam info with the Department of Defense Okay.
Speaker 1:Which they said they didn't do. But, like, what the reason I'm bringing this up is because this is a huge machine coming toward us of surveillance. And even when one company says they'll stop, one thing, that's not the it's not over. Mhmm. Because the whole movement's coming at us.
Speaker 1:And I also wanna share real quick that a couple quick things. One, I was a lobbyist back in the early two thousands, and we worked hard and organized statewide in Texas to get people to organize statewide. And statewide, at that time, they blocked the red light light And so there was a ban on red light cameras in Texas at that time. And I looked a lot at the technology of it. And of course, you can't just picture the license plate.
Speaker 1:You have who's in the car. Yeah. You have if you're with your wife or with a mistress.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You have everything about the car is The time, the place, what you're wearing, if you're drinking in the car. Yeah. Everything's on there. And so, what I'm also wanting to share is that years later, I do the red light cameras up. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because if we don't keep up the effort, at least just keep our eye on it. I'm not saying anything that we need to do or not do, but there's a machine coming at us, and vigilance is it's it's kind of a lifestyle, I think.
Speaker 2:It is. There's a quote. It says that liberty is never received. It's always attained. And once it's attained, it must be maintained Yes.
Speaker 2:Continually. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:We're never gonna receive liberty. We have
Speaker 1:to fight It's not and and we talked about this earlier. I know there's so many pieces of this story to tell. Uh-huh. But we talked about this earlier too as that off off the air, but I think both of us are are saying that it's not whether we win. It's what we do every day.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it's not whether I win every battle. Conduct myself today? Yeah. Did I accept all of this surveillance today?
Speaker 1:Or did I stop and say, hey, no. I don't accept this. Yeah. And surveillance is the first step. Control is the second step.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Once every once the government knows exactly where you are and when Yeah. That's just step number one. That's not the end game. It's not.
Speaker 1:Because now they can now control you very easily in so many ways, in either subtle ways or very clear obvious ways. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So What what you have said hits on three key things that I think we want to talk about. Number one is going back to your neighbor with the camera, the conversation around our the notion that if it's a public space, there's no right to privacy.
Speaker 1:Love I'd to talk about that.
Speaker 2:Right there. So let's hold on to that thought real quick. The other thing is that these all of this data, all of these cameras are products of hyper scaled, multi national corporations, and so they are just products that are for sale. And so the federal government, it's creating a constitutional black box so that the federal government is not violating your Fourth Amendment rights Yes.
Speaker 1:I want talk about that.
Speaker 2:Okay? These are just products. They're just private people owning these products, and that data is accessible by anybody. That's what
Speaker 1:we're told that
Speaker 2:they're And just so the government is able to have a plausible deniability on violating our rights and using this information to do exactly what you're speaking of, which is targeting people. That plausible deniability, the constitutional black box, they're hiding behind multi national hyper scaled tech corporations. It's our constitutional republic is devolving into a corporate oligarchy. And Which is called fascism. It's called yeah.
Speaker 2:And are livestreaming streaming the ending of our the very thing that has our bill of rights and our liberty. Wow. We do have it on camera. We're yeah. We're watching the half
Speaker 1:point that you wanted to say?
Speaker 2:And I'll it'll come back to me.
Speaker 1:Because I wanted to go into each of these pieces.
Speaker 2:That that the middle point, I've I've lost it. But let's talk about this notion that because you're in public, you have no oh, it's bringing me back to the third point. All of the prior surveillance that has been done, all of it, from CC's, you know, TV cameras and everything that's happened on our phones and all of that is fragmented data. It has in
Speaker 1:the past been. It has in the
Speaker 2:past been fragmented data. It's on this server, that server. Uh-huh. And it takes, you know, if there if somebody robs one store in this shopping center complex and then it goes and robs all the other stores, each one of those individual stores has to pull their own camera. Yes.
Speaker 2:They have to look at their stuff. You need an investigator. You gotta have a warrant. Blah blah blah blah blah. It's fragmented data.
Speaker 2:It is not the same thing at all as this AI aggregated data. They call it fusion. They first started
Speaker 1:calling it fusion centers. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And and it is live streaming our motion. So even the, oh, well the Flock camera is only holding that image for seven like in Bastrop, seven days. That was their they're like, oh, we're gonna do you know, we're gonna do we don't even do it for thirty days. We do it for seven days, which is supposedly better, but every individual snapshot by a camera is its own start point, it's its own individual, and so the seven days starts now. Starts now.
Speaker 2:Starts now. Starts now. Right. Every single time you pass a camera, and I'm passing my camera on my main street, sometimes as much as five or six times a day, because I'm running back and forth doing all the things. So it creates a continual mosaic of your every motion and where you're going.
Speaker 2:Our neighbors doing the very same thing and then this data belongs to them. My information belongs to you because it's on your camera. And so right now, I think the pressing conversation is one, it's a Hydra. So yeah, we got rid of Flock, it doesn't really mean deadly it does. It's a huge I wanna stop right there.
Speaker 1:What do
Speaker 2:you mean hydra? Where you cut off one head and another one comes up and it's twist. Right? It's just a multi headed beast that every head you cut off, another one pops up. Right?
Speaker 2:We have to get ahead of it. And so I you know, some people have really come in and said, oh, Bastrop City municipal city of Bastrop only owns 12 cameras. Mhmm. Although there are dozens of other cameras. And a big win because you got them to cover 12 cameras when there's hundreds of other cameras and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2:I wanna pause right there because you will get it and I think your listeners will get it. It's a huge win.
Speaker 1:Yes. It is.
Speaker 2:Because it's an energetic win. Yes. Exactly. It's momentum. It's momentum.
Speaker 2:The city said so for from July 12 up until last Monday night, city council meeting was on Tuesday, I am getting nothing but push back. Well, I would say a lot of push back, a lot of support, but a lot of push back. Okay. The post that I posted from City Hall with a picture of the emblem of Bastrop, City Council just moved to end its contract with Flock and to have all cameras covered repeatedly. That post, has, at this moment, got over well over a thousand likes, several 100 comments, the vast majority of them hooraying the city.
Speaker 2:Oh, great. Amazing. Wonderful. Oh. Finally.
Speaker 2:Thank you. And it is just like comment after comment after comment
Speaker 1:So many chicks.
Speaker 2:Of out of the woodworks, people were, like literally a comment that's like, we are jumping up and down and screaming in round rock round red rock. There's hope. Okay? Yes. That it that matters.
Speaker 2:And it's powerful. And it sent out a, like,
Speaker 1:a
Speaker 2:wave of liberty hope of liberty Yes. Through the whole of the community. Yes. It empowered and emboldened Yes. So many people to stand up.
Speaker 2:And I'm not condoning it, but in the wake of it, we had several Flock cameras mysteriously go to the ground with American flags sticking out of the top of them.
Speaker 1:Cut off. Right? Cut off. By a metal cutter. And
Speaker 2:Yeah. The overwhelming response to every post I have made since then has been, thank you, thank you, thank you, somebody's doing it, somebody thank you for speaking of, thank you for I wouldn't have known about it had you not been making all of these posts. And so the vast majority of us don't want the current world that we're in. And every time someone says, you have no expectation of privacy in a public public space, something in all of us is like, I think that doesn't feel right now in the digital era. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That doesn't feel right when the person who's taking my picture has access to a global network of shareability Yeah. And can, through AI, tether my image to absolutely any nonsense they want to tether it to Yeah. Make money off of it and for for eternity. Yep. So I feel like maybe we ought to bring this to the table and revisit this very specific statement.
Speaker 2:There is no expectation of privacy in the public sphere. Yeah. And that is what has come to the table at the federal level. There are several pieces of legislation that are introduced in both the House and the Senate. One other country, I don't think it was, it may have been in The UK, somewhere in Europe, they passed a law saying giving people ownership over their likeness.
Speaker 2:Oh, nice. Right? Nice. So now it's a part of my private property, and you cannot steal Yeah. My likeness Wow.
Speaker 2:In the public sphere Wow. And then utilize it for your own gain. So these conversations need to be had. Our neighbors, our the the ring cameras, all of that is all coming into legislation and is being brought to the table for conversation.
Speaker 1:Is the window for this conversation. It is. Because yeah. So I wanna step in too and say that, you know, I technically am a civil rights attorney. So I did practice law with my own I was a trial attorney with my own law office for over twenty years here in Downtown Austin, including a lobbyist as well, especially at the state legislature, which I just spoke about.
Speaker 1:But during that time, I was a civil rights attorney in addition to other kinds. And the Fourth Amendment of The United States Constitution, which is in our Bill of Rights I'm just gonna start by saying that The United States is different than every other country in recorded history that because we have a bill of rights. And our founders created a country that is unlike any other country when they put it down on paper. Yeah. And there are a couple things about this country that make us different than every other one so far in our recorded history.
Speaker 1:And one of them is the government works for the people in this country exclusively. And so if the people notice government is out of control, we have a legal duty to overthrow that government. And no other country is it written down in the constitution. The government works for you, and you must overthrow it if it is out of control.
Speaker 2:Can I interject one thing on that exact point? Yeah. That the only thing the government is supposed to protect is our right. That's I just got chills also. Their job is to protect Protect it.
Speaker 1:Liberty. Yeah. And our privacy
Speaker 2:rights. Start protecting us from danger, every known danger, it's a slippery slope into tyranny. Yeah. Their job is to protect that is what makes that document unique. They're and we make sure that they're protecting our rights.
Speaker 1:Yes. And that's the second part That's it. That's the second part of how our country was different is that we have the Bill of Rights. So I just wanna say for the listeners who may maybe didn't hear this and and didn't take take this class, but the Bill of Rights is in the United States Constitution, and it's the first 10 amendments to the United States constitution. And they're called the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 1:And there were the only constitution that has these that give people very clear individual rights against the government or anyone else. And that is the what you just said, that the government's job is to defend our bill of rights, our Yeah. And these are called our civil rights. And so the Fourth Amendment to the US constitution says directly that we have a right to privacy from the government Yeah. A reasonable expectation of privacy from the government.
Speaker 1:And if the government wants to look at what we are doing, they have to get a warrant. Yeah. And a warrant is something that you have to go talk to a judge about and convince the judge that there's a good reason because a crime may be committed that then so government is supposed to have to go talk to a judge on an individual case basis Yeah. And tell the judge why they have to watch you and know things about your life. And so with before this age of digital surveillance, that was kind of easy in a way to to understand and work with.
Speaker 1:But what's happening right now is with, like you said, all the things you've just now said together, which is we do, in fact, in The United States, have a written down legal right to privacy in public. We do have that Yeah. From the government. From the government. Each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Not from each other, but from the government. Yes. Okay? That we do have that.
Speaker 1:It's still there. And I think that recently, I I know that in the last few weeks, the United States Supreme Court came down with a great opinion. The problem is that the courts cannot keep up fast enough with the technology. Yeah. The technology moves so fast and courts take like years to make one decision.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But they did. The US Supreme Court a few months ago came down and said that our location data in our mobile phones, the government cannot obtain that Yeah. Without a So The US Supreme Court came down on our side, the people's side, side of the Bill of Rights recently and said that government cannot access our location data without a warrant. That's big Mhmm.
Speaker 1:But it's now needs to be another one that happened
Speaker 2:also called under carpenter. The one that you're referring to is the Geowarrants criteria or something. Yes. Another one was carpenter versus The US, which it is saying tracking the like, basically saying when you are able to track from this location to this location to this location, you're creating a mosaic of continual location which is unconstitutional. So while it's not unconstitutional to have single shot frame, it is unconstitutional to create a mosaic of movement, what church you go to, where people you're Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, with and things like that. And that is what this continual live stream Yes. Of surveillance through and it's really so, like, you know, Bashop took down they're gonna end their their contract with Flock. Great. But but and that begs the question.
Speaker 2:And I was, you know, what else out there? So what are you what is your plan? What what is the plan for every other thing that's out there? Every new technology? That and it really was my question about Flock in the first place.
Speaker 2:That okay, let's argue for argument's sake that it is only reading a license plate. Mhmm. It is gonna have there are apps. All you have to do is add an app where it picks up audio. Are you gonna purchase all the little gadgets that that make you have a super flock?
Speaker 2:Right? Because they're out there. Yes. And so what's the end? What's what's your end game in the as the technology grows, as things become more and more advanced, where are we going with it?
Speaker 2:And there is this awareness that the businesses all have it as well. All of these corporations are coming in, all the big box, you know, blah blah blah blah, everybody has them. But here's the thing that's really weird. So we have like a big shopping center that has like Lowe's and know Home Depot. The big boxes.
Speaker 2:Right? In it. Specifically one that has Lowe's in it. K. And there are four Flock cameras on that commercial lot that has, like, maybe 10 major box stores.
Speaker 2:K. K? We have a gentleman in town, Victor Castro I think is his name, who has gone to find, is on a mission to find who owns the Flock cameras at that shopping center. And in his latest video he asked the city if they belong to the city because the city did cover all twelve But hour flock those are not covered. But they're not covered.
Speaker 2:And they said, well, they're not ours.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They belong to Lowe's. So he calls Lowe's, the general manager. And the general manager, Lowe's like, not ours. We don't know whose it is. Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:He called every single business on the lot. Nobody claims them. He called the commercial lot developer owner. Owner.
Speaker 1:So the land. He says they belong to Lowe's.
Speaker 2:So the guy goes back to Lowe's. Uh-huh. And Lowe's is like, they're not ours. And so there's this, like, well, nobody knows where they're
Speaker 1:who they belong to.
Speaker 2:Okay. And so there's there's so many layers Yeah. Of sneaky weirdness Bureaucracy. Bureaucracy bureaucracy around around this. This.
Speaker 2:And not only are these businesses, you know, Lowe's is own Lowe's and Home Depot both. Their top, you know, shares shareholders are BlackRock and Vanguard.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And The surveillance companies. And the same companies that are the top investors in Flock and Palantir. Right? They are it's it's and so it's no coincidence. They also the companies that didn't have to shut down during COVID.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Because they were essential.
Speaker 2:They're essential. They're also a part of the military industrial. They're they are utilizing in their stores. They are the military industrial complex. Are military grade surveillance networks inside these stores.
Speaker 2:It is not your mom and pop shop HD camera with a vigilant shopkeeper. Keeper. This is when you walk in, they have biometric scanning of your face. They are able to pick up audio. Yeah.
Speaker 2:There is now at Walmart, where the products where they have the RIFD tags, where you can like, it's looking at you. It's reading your love that. Emotional response.
Speaker 1:Every shopper is read as you look at a product on the aisle.
Speaker 2:It's insane. And auditory, everything. There's no one in their right mind can think that this is okay. I mean, I guess they can, but I just can't fathom it. I can't either.
Speaker 2:And then, these are the same companies that have their hands in all, you know, so The US to say that the the federal government is like, well, I don't know. It's just a product. You know? Anybody can buy a Flock camera. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's very telling that where we're at in this process.
Speaker 1:And it's also just simply false because even back in twenty years ago when I was doing the lobbying and then think of it, they were creating in Texas, and I was watching it, and I was watching the budget bills, watching the laws pass to create what they were calling back then, it's old fashioned name now, Fusion Center. Uh-huh. Because the Fusion Center is for all camera data to come to one central location and then be given to the government. Yeah. So the thing about it is I also very recently, saw that Google gave all data to the Department of Defense in Google.
Speaker 1:So every single Gmail, every single camera that Google's a part of, every single is is is the Department of Defense. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's not it's not even And, like It's not even a separate branch anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It is a fourth branch. That's another thing that we should pull a good way to put it. Well, no. There is. There is a there is a fourth branch of government that is a shadow branch of government to your lock key.
Speaker 2:That is technology. The technology branch of government that is ruling in shadow of all the other branches. And it's a whole thing. You can look up the fourth branch of government. Look it up.
Speaker 2:It's a thing.
Speaker 1:But the thing I wanna just mention quickly is that you are correct that it's all these layers of red tape, and underneath all the layers is all a almost all of these major networks of cameras are being fed to the government. Yeah. And so, in fact, it is a violation of our Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 2:But if you're not doing anything wrong, then what do you need to worry about for
Speaker 1:love that one because first of all, who doesn't do anything wrong? First of all.
Speaker 2:What Several people living in Bastrop County Apparently. Don't do anything wrong
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Ever, and they're very happy
Speaker 1:Well, I think about I do I always heard that also when I was lobbying for privacy, and I think that's kind of funny, but the founders of the country believed differently. Yes. They did. And they made a country country that was different. They did.
Speaker 1:And so for everybody who doesn't think it's who thinks it's just fine if they have a camera up their ass every second of the day because they don't do anything wrong, you, number one, are subject to very easy control. You are low hanging fruit. Yeah. And it can be very subtle control because with social media and what have you now, it can be emotional control Mhmm. That you didn't even realize you were being controlled.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So they if so aside from that separate subject, I just wanted to point out that we no longer have a world with individual camera feeds that are owned by one simple Yeah. Single person. That's over now. It's over.
Speaker 1:All the police are I I just when I I I police are covered now in cameras, which we back then fought for for police accountability. But those are all directly into the federal government and the Department of Defense. So I just wanna dispel the myth these days that there's really any camera feed That is
Speaker 2:a stand alone. That's just a stand alone.
Speaker 1:Fragmented. It's not a it's not in the government's hands Mhmm. Which I believe is then that Fourth Amendment violation. And it's gonna take years for the courts to even look at it. So we need to look at it now.
Speaker 1:Yes. And so this is really about who who are you, who am I, who's listening, and what are you going to do in your life. Yeah. And so take it from there, Bluebird.
Speaker 2:So that's where we say, okay. The irony is municipalities have more power to put the, you know, the the brakes on the private surveillance within the community AIC surveillance than the federal government. Beautiful. Okay. Because I got chills.
Speaker 2:Very same yeah. So you just pull in real tight. Are we gonna change the Palantir, Vanguard, BlackRock owned, you know, corporation? Of directors? No.
Speaker 2:You're never going to. Can you set a ban in your own community on biometric surveillance, AI biometric surveillance within the city limits of Bastrop? You sure can.
Speaker 1:Oh, chills. Chills. Chills. Chills. Chills.
Speaker 1:You sure can.
Speaker 2:Every municipality can
Speaker 1:do it. Tell us all about that.
Speaker 2:Okay? So every municipality we are not without authority over and and this ties back directly into how do we set up boundaries in our own life with people and not and not then try to control other people. We say, you are totally free to be you. I am gonna establish this boundary and it's mine. If, you know, this is where my boundary is.
Speaker 2:You know, like with my kids, I'm not going to sit here and try to make sure that you're not being wild as a March hare because I would spend all of my time trying to make sure that you're not being a March hare. But you know what? You're not going to be one in my car. My keys are tucked away. Okay?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's the
Speaker 2:only thing I really have any control over. And so I take the things that I do have control over, and I control them. And I create a safe space for myself, while allowing other people to be wild and do whatever they're gonna do. Beautiful. Yes.
Speaker 2:Without controlling other people. Yes. And so cities, you know, I'm like, let's take it out this far. Welcome So, to Bastrop, this is how we roll. It's that simple.
Speaker 2:Okay, you have to put in, you know, businesses have to have codes enforcement stuff, they've got to have health codes, they've got to meet fire codes, they've got to do, like, cities are putting, you know, you can't just walk into a town willy nilly and open business without the city wanting a permit for everything. Right. Okay? That's for sure. So the city can set up easement, byways and easement restrictions that say Yeah.
Speaker 2:Your cameras that you own cannot be connected to any object that belongs to the city. Beautiful. Okay. They cannot be facing any street or easement that even a sidewalk. If the sidewalk belongs to the city, your camera cannot capture anything that is on that sidewalk.
Speaker 2:Your camera has to face, you know, your thing, your property.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Your
Speaker 2:business. So they can set up those types of things. They can they can ban biometric surveillance outright within setting limits. Okay? The use of biometrics and other as new things come out, new crazy skills and what surveillance stuff come out, the city can say, well, that's fine.
Speaker 2:Y'all can have it, but you can't do it in Bastrop. So Bastrop city limits can say, nope. We're not doing that with our people. We can also enact restrictions on how data is shared with local police office police departments so that these businesses don't have a direct feed into local police. So their data sharing Yeah.
Speaker 2:Can be restricted within a city limits. Oh. And they have to then file or they say they have to account to when they are setting up business, they have to say this is these are the type they have to file a permit for what type of cameras they're gonna be using. Surveillance Okay. Permit.
Speaker 2:It says surveillance permit. Yeah. This is how we're gonna use it. They need to send them little pictures of where they're gonna put their cameras and how to get a you know? Exactly.
Speaker 2:I had to do when I was like, I wanna have a food truck at my spot. I have to draw a map. I have to measure it from the easement onto my property. It has to be 10 feet from here to there. Maps, measurements.
Speaker 2:That fire department, and all of the things. So contracts. They have to do that. We can set it up so they have to do that through permits, and they have to explain who has access, who has access to the data, where is that data going,
Speaker 1:how
Speaker 2:kept, is they have to answer all of that, and they have to answer to the city, and the city can even apply daily fines for, okay, you've been using this biometric camera, which we told you you weren't allowed to use for x amount of weeks, and we are fining you for every day that you had this camera on. Beautiful. And so cities have power, and that's the only thing we can do in this type of an environment. It's the only thing you can do in life, period, is take control over what you have control over. Yes.
Speaker 2:It's that simple, and don't worry about BlackRock and Vanguard and Palantir. They kicked my ass. This is how we're doing it in Bastrop. And Bastrop, business it it it might deter some businesses, might say, well that's too much, we're not gonna do it, but I guarantee you Bastrop is the it spot. We got Elan, all all the cool all the cool cool cool, you know, top of the line tech people are here.
Speaker 1:Lots of human beings are gonna flock no Exactly.
Speaker 2:To Exactly. That place.
Speaker 1:Yes. Now is there any precedent for these municipal Yes.
Speaker 2:There is precedent in Portland, and there's precedent in Austin has done is moving in this direction and has done some of these things. Now Austin ended its Flock contracts, but I still see I think that they have I think the same thing with the red light thing that they're coming in with like something else still up there. The Wiley thing with these city governments and with the government as a whole is that they're gonna do it until someone says don't do it. Yeah. And as long as nobody says anything, you know, I had a rooster and my neighbor called the cops on Conway Tweety.
Speaker 2:And I asked him, I was like, I can't have a rooster? He's like, it's one of things. Those You can have a rooster until someone complains that you have a rooster and now you can't have a rooster anymore. They can do whatever they want to do until somebody, you know, brings it to light and starts pushing back. So we have to be vigilant.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We won a very small battle, but within that battle we won a huge momentum towards the next thing. And I think that Bastrop okay. Here's one thing before I say that, I wanna say this. The the the surveillance okay.
Speaker 2:So already these big businesses come to small town America, and financially, the small mom and pop shop cannot compete.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right? You can't compete Right. With them. Right. Their slave chain, their slave waiver wages, you know, all the things.
Speaker 2:Yes. This surveillance adds another layer of structural economic advantage over mom and pop. Interesting. Okay. It's a whole another punch slap in the face to small people.
Speaker 2:Whereas before, you're dealing with the, you know, financial aspect of they're able to just sell things cheaper than you are. Now they, when their profit margins, because they are able, a lot of these major companies are actually subsidizing police departments. I don't know that that's I'm not accusing Bastrop of that. But they pay, you know, the police department's kinda on their payroll.
Speaker 1:I've seen this.
Speaker 2:Right? And so, hey, had we this robbery, check this out, they're going to send them that data, the police. And so they're able to track not only their loss, their profit loss from theft, they're able to gauge their clientele through biometrics and all these other things to provide only the things that their clientele wants. So they have this huge structural economic advantage and it will be the end of mom and pop shops surveillance technology because the mom and pop shop is not gonna really be able to afford to maintain and run this level of military grade surveillance over their businesses. Right?
Speaker 1:That is so deep. Cause I've I understand that, for instance, the things in the Walmart, some of the Walmarts that are the cameras are on the shelf aimed at your face when you look at the product. Yes. And so there are some stores that can switch the price It is that moment. Wow.
Speaker 1:In the moment based on who's looking at the product. Yes. So they can assess you. Number one, they can get a dossier on you Yes. In two seconds.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you go and look at a tube of toothpaste, they are pulling together a Terminator style full dossier on who you are. Yeah. And then they decide if they can charge you three dollars or $2 for that tube, and that price changes right in front of your eyes based on who you are. Insane.
Speaker 1:And then that's in addition to so big. There's another store technology where they're in the shopping cart handles handles are are sensors. Oh, what they pick up through the hands is your emotional state.
Speaker 2:Oh my god.
Speaker 1:They're literally able to get your heart rate and your whether you have an arrhythmia or not, and you're and that through that data, they can know the emotion of who's pushing that shopping cart. So if you put these together with what you're
Speaker 2:talking It's about the end of You are being so manipulated. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You are being so Yeah. You are being so commodified Yeah. And manipulated emotionally
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:In every direction when you go into one of these stores and let this surveillance technology be in part of what you're doing, which I think this ties together how the surveillance is step one. It is. Step two is with that data, I can totally manipulate you if you think inside the box. Yeah. So if you're a person who does not have the kind of a virtue that you're going to buck the system because you can see how horrible Yeah.
Speaker 1:And deadly and destructive system is, and you're not gonna buck the system, you're gonna go with the system Yeah. Then you are becoming extremely predictable Yes. And extremely manipulatable. So if you're not gonna buck the system, I can already manipulate you. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so this podcast is for every listener to think really hard about whether you're going to be the kind of person that they corral first. Yeah. Because you're not bucking anything. Yeah. Then you're completely manipulatable right down to how much you catch
Speaker 2:your toothpaste.
Speaker 1:We're gonna be the last
Speaker 2:girls out there running You're like catch us You don't
Speaker 1:know what my face looks like. You don't know where I go every day?
Speaker 2:Yeah. You can't have that. It's this, like, call for, you know, the all of the things, you know, we need to have an old car. You need to have things that you know, you you don't have to you don't have to buy, you don't have to comply.
Speaker 1:You have comply with this. You don't. My car's an '88. It has no traffic. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Except for the license, you know, the license plate the state gave me has a computer chip in it. Okay. And I know that. Yeah. But other than that, my car is not talking to me.
Speaker 1:It's not talking to anyone else.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We are in it's a it is the future of freedom. You know? Yes. Is there a future for freedom?
Speaker 2:Yeah. And the future for freedom for people in their community, their mom and pop. Because Bashtop is gonna grow exponentially. It's all gonna
Speaker 1:be corporate. If somebody doesn't stand there.
Speaker 2:It's all the it's not you're not
Speaker 1:gonna get new Then he
Speaker 2:new mom and pop. It's not It's not gonna be too corporate. And before we know it, we're gonna be homogenized. We're like every other city changing in the already. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's already happened. And if if the the leaders of any given municipality are are you rooted in a growth for growth's sake, which is a cancer mentality? Which is our mayor, Kirk Watson. Yeah, just in growth for growth's sake, or do you want to strengthen Bastropians, and do you want to strengthen your core? Right?
Speaker 2:Yes. And support your core. Because, oh, this is what I was gonna say. Because even if we all boycotted and I I want to be very clear that I am not calling for a boycott of any business whatsoever. Good.
Speaker 2:Okay? Okay. I do not believe that you need to boycott Lowe's Mhmm. Walmart or place. Okay.
Speaker 2:And here's why. These companies Walmart is making a million how long does it take Walmart to make a million dollars? Probably one second. Forty two seconds Wow. To make a million dollars.
Speaker 2:Wow. Okay? They're making a billion dollars a day. Wow. Okay?
Speaker 2:Wow. Lowe's and Home Depot are right up there with them where they're making a million dollars in under a minute. Right? How long would it take if every citizen in the city, in the county of Bastrop, never went to home, successfully boycotted all three of these businesses? How long would it take for those businesses to to even even bat an eyelash that no one had walked in the door for a year, two years, before they would even begin to slow down?
Speaker 2:They wouldn't even notice. Because they are not running on Bastrop money. Right. They are running on the money of a multinational hyper scaled mega military industrial complex corporation. Would never have to go there ever.
Speaker 2:And they would be it would be like walking into a weird dystopian, there's nobody there and everybody's at work. How can we help you today? Yeah. Little And red no one's been in it for five years. Right.
Speaker 2:Okay? It would. This boycotting is never gonna gain the energetic. No. You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2:Like, we talk about the energetic way that went through my community when 12 cameras got covered was phenomenal. It may have well we may as well have won the Super Bowl for the energy that came alive within that moment. Beautiful. Before the night was over, the post had a thousand likes and hearts. Right?
Speaker 2:Yes. It would, like, a 100 people boycotting. Like, the it just you're not you're not you gain zero It's so effective. There's no energy generated through resistance.
Speaker 1:That's so interesting what you just said. That's so interesting what you just said. Yeah. I wanna I wanna really look at that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, we used to march, and I've thought for a long time, just this is stupid. Like, all they do is just turn their their screen on, and they don't have to even hear what's being said out there. Action. The resistance tell me more about this. Decisive.
Speaker 2:Because activism is changing. It is changing.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2:So I think that decisive action in the positive is where energy is generated. Awesome. So instead of It's about that. We're gonna boycott all of the terrible things. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's great.
Speaker 1:I get it. Shout out you with a I
Speaker 2:don't I don't go I I avoid those department stores in as much as possible. Sure. But, you know, how much energy could we throw into the McCoys in Bastrop? If Instead of going on about how they're boycotting something, we just started like McCoys, I went there, I got my two by fours, I got my nails. McCoys, McCoys, McCoys, McCoys.
Speaker 2:Woo hoo, McCoys. And that generates energy for this company, this business that we could really advance and grow. Wouldn't it be great to see it double in demand of its products? That's energetic growth. Positivity.
Speaker 2:Because in the decomposition there is a type of energy that is present, but it is a low vibrational energy that gets naturally absorbed but in growth it's like this. What can we grow? How can we grow our liberty in Bastrop? We have absolutely nothing to lose by by setting up these kinds of boundaries. And when we say, well, you might be saying, well, your boundary is a resistance.
Speaker 2:No. My boundary is a growth of my own space and my happiness and my pleasure. My My positivity and my love for myself. It Yeah. Feels I feel I feel energetic and empowered when I'm like, wow.
Speaker 2:I just set up this boundary. That feels so good. I can breathe. I can breathe. Off camera.
Speaker 2:Yes. And it like my and it and so every boundary we set is like my lungs have that much more capacity to breathe out. And it's loving you're
Speaker 1:what you're saying, it's lovingly set Yes. Not set with anger Yeah.
Speaker 2:And like a lead wall. From being Home Depot or anybody from being and I'm not trying to stop anybody or judge anybody anybody for going there. There's many a small construction business that needs the, you know, pricing and the resources of that. And there's zero judgment on on that or those poor mom who feels like she needs to shop at Walmart and can't buy everything Right.
Speaker 1:And that's what she has
Speaker 2:access to. So it's not about that. And it comes back to where our power does lie, how do we empower our community to be as free as our community can be. And we do that by protecting the core of our community against global multinational conglomerate. Right?
Speaker 2:Movement. And movement that, you know, nobody has any power over. And people always come back to the, well, it's you can't stop blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Right? And that's where this, you know, I had this thing that came to me, you know, a few, I don't know when it was, I I love a thing.
Speaker 2:I love to make up a title. You're so creative. It was, you know what? I'm forming an alliance of it was in the context of anarchapulco. Okay.
Speaker 2:And when we're looking at what it means to be a pioneer. Yes. A new world pioneer, which we are new world pioneers. And which there is a podcast on with Bluebird talking
Speaker 1:about just that some months ago. So look
Speaker 2:in the archives. So look in the archives for the new world. But one of the tenants one of the things that a pioneer has to in order to be successful is an aggressive amount of optimism. And to be opportunistic. You have to have these two things if you are going to be a successful pioneer.
Speaker 2:We're gonna need them if we ever go off and live in the mountains and we don't really have never been farmers. Yeah. And so but we are gonna take you you have to be willing to to sit back far enough. And I'm telling you, this whole conversation around Flock and the 12 covered cameras has put a chink in the armor and a crack titanium block of AI surveillance infrastructure that the light has come through and all it takes is one little crack and to be opportunistic. Right.
Speaker 2:Right? That's And we're gonna take this opportunity right now to press in hard. Press hard. All of those All of it. Right?
Speaker 2:Municipal rules cameras. And and to be aggressively optimistic. So what's your group called? It is called the Alliance of Aggressively Optimistic Opportunists. The Dow.
Speaker 1:I like the Dow. You've heard of the Dow. This is the Dow.
Speaker 2:The Dow.
Speaker 1:And what I I just love so so much and what I wanted to have you here because when I was an activist so long ago, everyone was just angry. And it was just angry activism was, like, the only style. Yeah. And it's time for us to completely put that behind. Yes.
Speaker 1:Number one, it's no fun. It burns me out.
Speaker 2:And it, again, and it doesn't build any energy.
Speaker 1:It doesn't build energy because the when you fight, then the other side wants to fight harder. Yeah. And they come and they every one bows up Mhmm. And swells up against each other. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:So I love that your campaign is the cutest name of an organization. It's super positive. You had those super cute cartoony memes that were so cute and funny. Yeah. It's feel it's a feel good movement.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It is.
Speaker 2:And it's it's this Luminous. It's it's opt it's it's optimistic. It's have to lose. If you do nothing, we're gonna all be in a surveillance state. It's pretty, you know, like the train is coming, there's nothing to lose whatsoever, but maybe a pebble on the track will throw the whole thing off.
Speaker 2:You don't know. And and so there's only liberty to gain, to regain. That's it. Beautiful. And there's just absolutely no reason not to stand up and say, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, You know?
Speaker 2:I what keeps coming back at me. How is that any different than telling the girl who's been who's currently being raped, who has already been gang raped, to stop her current rapist because she's already had a line of them? Oh my god. Okay. No.
Speaker 2:At what point do we say enough? She should just lay down and take it? Right? Because it's already been Right. You know, done on her.
Speaker 2:Complaining about? What is she complaining about? What is one more? When, you know, and that is to me exactly what you're saying to me. Get out of my fucking face.
Speaker 2:Okay? No. I haven't participated and I've been quiet this whole time, but I've been going out of my way. And if you've watched any podcasts with River, you will know for thirty years Yes. To stay free.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And now, okay. Well, maybe it's because, you know, I have time on my hands. I don't know, but I'm I'm done. I'm like, no.
Speaker 2:We don't have to do this. And the city doesn't have to do it. And all I am saying is take authority over what authority you have for your people, for the benefit of our community, and be the president, be the change. And I think that if municipalities, all of these we're already seeing it, all these different municipalities breaking their contracts with Flock. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a trend. Can you imagine if every if there was just a wave of municipalities that put in simple bans restrictions and codes and just made it really difficult for this monster machine to come in and run surveillance amok on your people. How powerful that would be. It's a grassroots in some way. Yes.
Speaker 2:Very much so. Very much so. Movement. And does it matter if it takes down the machine? It doesn't because what's practical freedom is practical freedom.
Speaker 2:When I am in Bastrop, I don't have to worry about these things and I like it. Yeah. And that's where I live. That's my little hub. That's my little bubble.
Speaker 2:Practical, practical and and, you know, everything these things do have power. They have power, and I think the conversation that you and I have had is the power of the energetic like, our voice matters when it's heard. It has do have the power to shift to shift things. It doesn't have to be this way. It doesn't have to be this way.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. I'm so inspired where I'm gonna go talk to my neighbor today. But that's not all.
Speaker 2:It's not all.
Speaker 1:Is there more you wanna talk about today? What else is it you
Speaker 2:would like? That because one thing that I would like to is how how are we gonna handle our neighbors? So I want to talk about a post I made today. And that is the the psychology of being under constant surveillance. Okay.
Speaker 2:And the psychological and sociological implications of continual surveillance. So there's four things that happen and this is what we're going to see happen. Number one is the Panopticon Syndrome where people just have a low grade anxiety or unhappiness because everywhere you look there's a camera looking back at you. It creates a very dystopian vibe. You're always being monitored.
Speaker 2:You're always being watched. You never get to escape. Now your neighbor has it. Some Joe Schmo has it. It's on the cars now.
Speaker 2:Cars. It's just yucky. It feels To be watched all the time to know
Speaker 1:that every single thing you do is Yeah. Not able to be scrutinized by a lot of people.
Speaker 2:And it is gonna increase just the low grade kind of cloak of depression that's Melee's. Over We don't like it. Nobody nobody really likes it. You know? Nobody loves seeing a camera
Speaker 1:Just on that one thing, I just wanna say that human energy is greatly affected something like that. Yeah. Whether your energy is strong and happy or broken Uh-huh. Like a farm animal Yeah. That's big deal.
Speaker 1:It may seem small, but it's not. It's very big. And and and we can't That's an important thing. Our luminous life force is important
Speaker 2:for protecting. And there is a atmospheric or ethereal cloak of all of the what's coming out. What makes it the the digital, you know, blanket that's over us. Yeah. And it is emitting into the atmosphere.
Speaker 1:I mean, we didn't even talk about the Like having actual waves of emissions.
Speaker 2:Okay. So for example Yeah. Cattle that are in the under the, you know, next door to the data centers are miscarrying and, you know, having all kinds of problems because they can hear the the vibrations and the frequencies
Speaker 1:that are So being
Speaker 2:the frequencies are putting out, it creates a very unnatural state of hyper vigilance, which we see this also just in social media dating, things like that. One of the reasons why I would never meet a man or like go to a man's house that I don't know, no, no, no, no, is that you don't know he didn't have cameras all over the place, in his bathroom, wherever. Not gonna be I am not gonna put myself into a situation where I might be being filmed by person I don't know that well without my Internet tomorrow. Yeah. And I yeah.
Speaker 2:I just won't do it. And so That's smart. Yeah. I'm only open for the ungovernable. FYI.
Speaker 2:Anyways. Okay. What's the second thing have? One is okay, what I call the blah blah effect. It's my own term.
Speaker 2:Everything becomes become I'm gonna read it from here so that it is specific. Okay. Mass conformity and creative burnout. People adopt highly conventional, predictable behaviors and self censorship to stay off the radar. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hyperconformity crushes eccentricities
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Risks and productive failures that drive artistic and creative innovation. Yep. That's the blah blah. Creating boring communities with zero funky that separate them from other communities around them. The next one is the rise of horizontal surveillance.
Speaker 2:Okay? Yes. This is when citizens begin to monitor each other each other. Ending trust within the community, withering away our solidarity Yes. And our ability to authentically connect with our neighbors.
Speaker 2:Yes. The lack of real connection actually creating dangerous disconnections that open up doors for real danger. Yes. The weaponized compliance and citizen entitlement, which we saw in COVID. Yes.
Speaker 2:We did.
Speaker 1:Right? And this all comes from communism where it's been well tested Uh-huh. In Germany
Speaker 2:the who fully buy into the system developed an entitled compliance mindset. Yeah. Then And started
Speaker 1:knocking on
Speaker 2:everybody for fun. And then finally, the rise of outlaws, rogues, and because extreme control produces rebellion. Yeah. And definition. By definition.
Speaker 1:But now it's ugly. It's me. It's mad.
Speaker 2:It's angry. Uh-huh. So hyper surveillance is the psychological and sociological and evolutionary implications of it are not being spoken of
Speaker 1:Yes. In the public realm. Thank you for
Speaker 2:sharing In the public realm, it's this like, you know, it's for your safety, it's for your convenience, it's already too far, there's nothing you can do about it, or, you know, don't tread on me. Like a real blanket, kind of shallow, don't I don't want you to know where I'm going, but then it kinda it it dead ends there Yeah. In a lot of ways. And we have to bring to the table what is what how is this affecting how is this type of surveillance as it gets deeper profound and more pervasive, going to affect our evolutionary development going forward? And that is where I just, you know, come on, let us reason together.
Speaker 2:Let us see where we're going. And every every little place of felt freedom that you experience expands your life force. If you want to boycott Lowe's and never go there again because it makes you feel expansive and you want to give all your money to McCoys, more power to you. But that all of us have to find out, like, how what do I need to do to feel more free? Yes.
Speaker 2:And that is my call to municipalities across the nation. What can you do to bring more freedom to your people while the federal government figures out what it needs to do to do its job, which is to protect the rights and liberties of its people, not to protect its people. That is its job. So true.
Speaker 1:And without regard to what they do Yeah. We can do it.
Speaker 2:Each one of us, each
Speaker 1:one of our towns, each one of our neighborhoods. Yeah. So is there anything else you want to because I want good. I love this conversation so much, Bluebird. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having it. I I think it's such an important conversation.
Speaker 1:I do. It's not it's so important from so many angles and not just the conversation, Bluebird. Thank you for laying down your reputation, all of your energy. Yeah. The artwork you did is not just funny, it's kind of risky in a way.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Kind of it's edgy and funny and awesome and sexy Yeah. And cute. And thank you for being your sexy cute self while you do all this, like, changing the whole world around you. And thank you for not just speaking about it, but doing it Yeah.
Speaker 1:And putting all this time and effort in being yelled at and being called names.
Speaker 2:Dumb and ugly. Is that what someone called you? I get it all
Speaker 1:the time.
Speaker 2:Like, just like, it's okay.
Speaker 1:Oh my
Speaker 2:god. It's like It's smart and cute.
Speaker 1:It's alright. You're taking all of this fire Yeah. And gunfire, but yet here you are laughing and radiant and it's awesome, and I just love you so much. I also wanna say that each one of us who is listening today or hearing the podcast, we're all connected. You're listening for some reason Mhmm.
Speaker 1:To this podcast. There's a connection here. Yeah. And what is it you're taking away? What is it you're going to do in your life if it's as small as put a visor on when you go out today so no one can see
Speaker 2:your face? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because when I go out, I have this visor
Speaker 2:and these
Speaker 1:big wide rimmed hats. Yeah. So I know that's not a, you know, like you said, it doesn't take down Palantir, Yeah. But it makes me feel really bright and empowered and luminous. And you're
Speaker 2:picturing life force. That day.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I have no Yeah. My face isn't anywhere in those cameras feeds. So this is an individual choice of our life force energy. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And I love that you brought in the evolutionary way that excessive surveillance will set into a culture and change that culture forever. Yeah. Because we've this isn't speculation. No. This is Berlin.
Speaker 1:This isn't speculation. This is Russia. This isn't speculation. This is China. It's well studied.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I've been in some of those environments. And I think Japan has something like this and Singapore. And I'm not talking I'm talking about the culture of compliance Yeah. And low grade depression and the lack of creativity that is allowed and that even wants to sprout anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I'm just wanting to bring us to the conclusion here with, if you're listening, this is about your life force. Are you going to be in a Luminous life force? Yeah. Are you going to take a stand for where it feels good to do that?
Speaker 1:Yeah. And where you feel like, I feel really great that today I said, this is mine in my area, and I if it's in the world of privacy, then I get a little bit more privacy today. Yeah. If it's taking yourself off of Google it took me, like, two years to get all
Speaker 2:the way off of Google. I'm in that process.
Speaker 1:It's hard. It's a process.
Speaker 2:It is a process. If it
Speaker 1:and and this podcast goes on to YouTube, but there's a separate Google that was only open for this podcast to go on YouTube, and I don't use anything. No other app in there. Yeah. We all get to each decide what creates most luminosity in me. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And how do I get the most creative and free and that I wanna live in? Yeah. And I also wanna say that this globe and this society, we have a golden age coming of freedom from all of this. Yes. And we in other words, it's like my friend Del Bigtree says sometimes, hashtag we're winning.
Speaker 1:We are winning. Hashtag we're winning. Are We winning. Saying that in COVID when it felt like we were at the bottom of the
Speaker 2:pit, you know, because it's
Speaker 1:easy for vaccine freedom and stuff. So Yeah. He would be like, hashtag we're winning because and it always cheered me up. Yeah. And I wanna cheer up for the viewers and listeners right now that hashtag we are winning We are winning.
Speaker 1:And you get to decide if you're going to come over to the freedom movement that is opportunistic and creates those chinks in the armor and the light shines back through
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because the light's gonna shine all the way back through eventually. And I think it's gonna be just, I think, five to ten years before Palantine and Lockheed are gonna be in the dust. Yeah. Because of things like this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's up to each person who's listening to decide which side am I going toward. Yeah. Am I gonna be the compliant sheep who I don't wanna use that word, but, like, the compliant person who just goes along and lets my spirit be crushed into the ground? Or am I gonna stand up in some way that I see to do if it's talking to your across the street neighbor, if it's putting on a visor today, if it's leaving your phone at home when you go out so they don't know where you went. Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's so many steps to take. I have a podcast, Top 10 Data Privacy Tips. Bluebird has all of her feeds you can watch and be part of. It's very easy these days to find something you can do
Speaker 2:It is
Speaker 1:very easy. To feel awesome about.
Speaker 2:We still have so much opportunity Yeah. To find freedom, and you don't have the only thing I have to do is drive by a Flock camera. That's it. That's really the only thing I have to do. Every single other avenue that this surveillance is coming through, I still have the ability to decide my engagement with it.
Speaker 2:Beautiful. And as long as we have that, we have opportunity and we have hope to change. And and our freedom matters. You know? Our felt freedom matters.
Speaker 1:Felt freedom. That how do I feel today? Am I luminous and radiant because no one can keep me down. Am I an uncontainable, luminous heart? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or am I like, I'll do everything they say. Yeah. So who are you going to be today is the question I have for our listeners, and what are you gonna do? Yeah. Any last words my love?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me
Speaker 1:Incredible to have you.
Speaker 2:And and the alliance of aggressively optimistic opportunists is always on, you know, always available. You can join anytime from anywhere Yeah. Telepathically. So Even if you
Speaker 1:say right now in
Speaker 2:your heart, I'm doing this and I am like I'm a I'm a member.
Speaker 1:And we'll have the links for that way also on the podcast.
Speaker 2:So thank you, darling.
Speaker 1:Thank you. So I am here, my darling, to support those who are called to bring the maximum love and light into their lives, liberating self expression in all the realms where all is sacred, connecting with you to create a cosmic web of love and light that's energetic. We don't need the technology for us to be totally connected energetically in a very real way because together, we can step into a more harmonious vibration. Together, we can fly higher, shifting human consciousness forever for the highest good of all beings. And if Bluebird isn't
Speaker 2:a symbol of that, I don't know who is.
Speaker 1:So my sweet listener, may the love be with you and may the love be with us all. Amen. Awesome.