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USDN Podcast is a cinematic indie comics interview series hosted by the USDN_Chairman and the Council of Nerds spotlighting the creators, storytellers, and worldbuilders shaping the future of independent comics.
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And welcome to the United States
Department of Nerds,
where we are for the people,
by the people, and of the people,
before the mask.
Before the ink.
Before the character becomes a legend.
There's a real person behind that
inspiration.
It's night we sit down with an actress,
a model, and a comic book muse.
The real life inspiration behind Rita
Rivera from Lucha Mystery.
Brought to life by Cyclone Comets.
Shout out to Evan.
From stepping into characters like Mary
and Max to embodying a beer loving vampire
named Jenna.
to becoming a part of Mississippi Macabre.
This is where reality meets the page.
Ladies and gentlemen,
the Council of Nerds is now in session
D. Welcome to the council.
Thank you so much for having me, Jeff.
So you are a very special person as
I don't ask a lot of people to
come on the podcast, but I was like,
I want to do something different.
And I want to explore multiple facets of
the comic book industry.
And you just so happen to be like
in that cusp of comic books without
actually writing a comic book or drawing a
comic book yourself,
even though you are a fantastic artist
yourself.
Thank you.
Check out her Redbubble.
Link is in the description.
I'm definitely kind of in there.
Here, there, not quite.
But it's worked for you, because I mean,
every character that is out there that is
you...
reflects back to you I mean like
characters are eerily similar to you in
every instance so shout out to those
amazing artists out there who are bringing
those to life but you are an actress
first how did you get into acting and
what kind of drove that or drove you
to be want to be an actress well
I think ever since I was born I've
always wanted to perform like I had like
a
top hat and a cane and I came
out of the womb and I've just always
wanted to perform and I would do plays
in school, which were great.
But I just like,
I just really loved film movies.
My cousins introduced me to fifth element,
stuff like that.
And that just really kind of immersed me
into the world of movies, Star Wars,
of course, Titanic,
all those kinds of things.
And it just really made me want to
be a part of that world.
What a great world it is because you
are, what do you call yourselves?
Winnipeggians?
Winnipeggers.
Winnipeggers.
Yeah.
And so many like movies and shoots happen
there.
So you're like right in the heart of,
you know,
the Canadian film industry right there.
So I don't know if that was done
purposefully or like, yeah,
I'm moving to Winnipeg because this is
where the action is happening right now.
Yeah, I mean,
it's just Winnipeg is really just
been getting a lot more attention lately.
It's nice that actors like myself don't
have to go to, you know, Vancouver,
Toronto, LA, you know what I mean?
It's like all right here.
And they really like our old buildings.
The architecture looks very much like old
New York, Chicago.
So it's really nice that movies are coming
here and even bigger movies too.
Like we had John here last summer.
So that's really exciting.
That would go direct to DVD.
Sorry, John Travolta.
My bad, dude.
My bad.
We love you.
We really do.
You were great in Saturday Night Fever.
But so you became the inspiration for Rita
Rivera in Lucha Mystery.
Lucha Mystery is such a fun comic book
for those who aren't familiar with it.
It is done by Evan.
I'm going to attempt to pronounce his last
name.
Keyring.
Quiring.
Quiring.
I was damn.
I was so close.
But, uh,
so Lucha Mystery follows a group of
luchadors who are sent to this, basically,
it's a dead town to have a show
where a UFO has crash-landed and turned
its citizens into basically zombies.
And, um, Rita is a...
the daughter of a famous,
like legendary luchador herself.
And she's his daughter who is a writer
for a newspaper or is it a magazine?
I can't remember which.
I feel awful.
She is a journalist.
Yeah.
I double checked.
Yeah.
It just, she's a journalist.
Right.
What was, how did that happen?
They like kind of, how did that happen?
Like how was that subject brought up for
you to be Rita?
Well, so I was introduced to Evans comics,
uh,
when he and I first started dating and
I really love, um, just like his mind,
he was telling me all about the stories
and just how he had developed this like
years ago,
it was in his mind and how he
brought it to, uh, yeah,
like just to come to life and.
What I really liked about it was that
it took place in the nineteen sixties.
The clothes, the big sunglasses.
Great.
And I'm a big fan of, you know,
everything kind of vintage retro.
So I have that pin up
love for pinup and old Hollywood styles,
stuff like that.
So I loved her beehive and stuff like
that.
So that was the beehive and the hat
with the scarf and sunglasses.
Yeah.
So it was interesting when he was,
he had published his comic and he,
was doing a fan quest.
So it was kind of like a smaller
convention.
And I had never dressed up before as
cosplay anything.
And I thought, you know what?
I'm gonna dress up like your character.
I really love his other character too,
Queen Rock Dora.
yeah yeah gorgeous and beautiful and just
badass but not as family friendly for a
convention so yeah so i thought rita
rivera would be just such a fun character
to to to be and dress up as
uh so i ordered a beehive wig online
and we went shopping in the thrift store
and looked for her sweater she was i
think there's a image of her in like
a
Pink.
Yeah.
It's like violet,
like pink or something like that.
Yeah.
I mean,
she's in her underwear a few times, too.
But yeah, again, family friendly.
So we went for the pink sweater and
then she has a scarf and all that.
So I dress up like that.
And it was just so funny when the
wig came in,
like I put it on and he was
just like, oh, my God, like she's here.
It was just kind of amazing.
She's brought to life.
My vision in this comic.
So when we were at the convention,
it was just so much fun getting to
sit next to this comic and be like,
you know, this is who I'm playing.
And that kind of gave me the itch
to get into cosplay and kind of like,
what can I do next?
Yeah.
and and after that actually um stephen
butler wonderful artist creator uh drew a
picture of me cosplaying as rita so he
even put like my little moles so now
i'm kind of like wow what an honor
so and i think evan said like yeah
going forth like he kind of wants rita
to have our mole now so yeah nice
but i got to be a part of
all of that you know
and seeing his greatness over the years.
It's really cool.
And for me,
I've gotten to read this series,
and it's such a fun series.
And of course,
I've interviewed Evan in Cyclone Comets,
and such a smart in the way his
mind works with comic books.
He's like, I love how he lights up.
He's like a little kid explaining it when
he like when I first got him like
when I first met him and he would
explain to me what the story was about.
It was just like listening to a kid
talking about
you know,
like their favorite toys and stuff.
So I just love, I was like,
this is his baby, you know?
So getting to witness him create that and
just over the years,
how he's developed so much,
like it's just really fascinating and
yeah, incredibly talented, just so gifted.
And like ever since he was young,
like there were,
there were drawings he did when he was
a kid.
So I was like,
you were meant to do this.
Yeah.
He showed me some of those when I
had him on the show and I was
just like, dude.
Yeah.
Like you were meant to do it.
Yeah.
He really was.
And so when you saw Rita that very
first time, did you go, that's me.
It's funny because she has the dark hair.
She's a little bit more of a voluptuous
gal.
So I did like that, you know,
because a lot of characters...
in comics, you know,
they can be quite slim or they can,
you know,
I liked that she was kind of like,
you know,
a little more of a voluptuous gal,
you know?
And, uh, so I, I,
I could relate to her that way.
And again, just the vintage aspect.
I really just love like her driving with,
yeah, with her.
Like the old Cadillac that she's driving.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just super cool.
So do you approach inspiration differently
than acting?
Like when you were putting on the cosplay
to become Marion,
did you approach that differently from
whether,
like if you were going to do a
shoot for a movie or a read-in for
a movie part?
I tend to approach everything in the same
kind of way.
You know, I just kind of...
I hear what it is,
the vision that they have,
and I try my best to really just,
you know,
bring that to fruition and just really try
my best.
I am quite new to the cosplay world.
So like I said,
the Rita Rivera was kind of my first
real break into it all.
the Mary and Max thing, you know,
I was a little nervous at first.
They had approached me and they just said,
you know, we'd really like you to,
you know, do this and pose, you know,
for the comic and it'll be a cover.
And I just thought, okay,
I'll give it a try, you know,
because I know so many cosplayers, like,
you know,
Construct so many different outfits and
everything like that.
And I just kind of I called my
sister up and I said,
can you help me?
Maybe you know like so some stuff and
put things together and that's yeah what
we did miss It's just kind of a
trial and error and we were happy with
it I think it's just you know exuding
the confidence that you are a character
and just embodying that you know
And it's a little bit harder because
you're stepping into a indie comic
character.
There's not years of character development
on this character.
So you're basically ground floor.
Like how would this character actually be?
Right.
It's a very different than other
cosplayers stepping into a character that
has an anime or it's been in comic
books for years and years.
Yeah.
You stepped into a character that,
issue number one, basically it was like,
all right, this is Marion.
How'd I do?
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's like I said,
I think it's just kind of, you know,
taking their little bits of information
about the character and what they kind of
want,
how they would like you to project it.
And that's all I can really do.
And just kind of,
give it my all,
give it with gusto and just hope that
that's, you know, I'm doing, you know,
Doing it right.
Yeah.
I mean, you have an acting background.
So, I mean,
you're able to take directions from a
director or a comic writer in this case.
It kind of like, okay,
this is how she is.
This is what she is.
This is what she does.
You can kind of take that limited
information with your background in
acting.
Yeah.
Give them that character with the hardest
part, of course,
always going to be like the sewing and
constructing of characters.
the outfit for that character.
Well, and it was Scattered Comics.
So it was Scattered Comics were the ones
that Jason Duby and Keith Carmona.
And they were very,
very kind and understanding,
knowing that I am fairly new to this.
And I just like I said, you know,
like, please understand, like,
I've never constructed anything.
And they just they were so sweet saying,
like, you know, like,
we have faith in you.
You're talented.
You're beautiful.
Like all these sweet things.
And I just thought, OK, well,
you know what?
And it just kind of gave me the
confidence to kind of just go for it
and
You know, as soon as like,
because it was my sister and I taking
the photos and we just,
once you're like in that gear, you just,
that confidence just comes out, right?
Oh, yeah.
And so I just, you know,
and then I had a friend who is
also an amazing artist.
A shout out to Ian,
the comic artist on Instagram,
if you ever have a chance to see.
He actually photoshopped a photo of me and
with her eyes glowing green.
So he kind of brought the image to
life.
And that's when it really kind of was
like, yeah, you know what?
I am her, I am Marion, you know?
And yeah, like when it all comes together,
you have that initial kind of nervousness
with anything, with auditions,
with any kind of performance.
And I think we're all our worst critic,
Oh, a hundred percent.
Every, yeah.
Always.
Yeah.
Like I, you know,
and I was so concerned about, you know,
the outfit, but honestly,
it was just kind of like how I
presented the character.
I'm badass.
I got this.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah,
the outfit could have been a lot better,
but.
Hey,
it was your very first go into this.
So, I mean.
Yeah.
They asked me again, so now I'm like,
hey.
It couldn't have been that bad, right,
if they're coming back to get you to
do it again.
But you've also been the beer-loving
vampire, Jenna, which we brought up.
And was that just like,
how was that one?
Was that for a cover or was that
just like you were the muse for the
character?
So that was for a cover.
They had a Kickstarter promotion going on.
And that was one of the,
what is it you call?
The cosplay covers?
One of the gifts you can unlock if
they reach a certain amount.
Gotcha.
So, yeah, that would be,
it was kind of like an alternate cover.
Stretch goal.
It was a stretch goal.
Yeah,
I'm sure you kind of understand the
Kickstarter world more than me.
Oh, yeah.
it's kind of my bread and butter.
Yeah.
So that was, they just approached me.
And so I'm actually now part of the,
the scattered studios.
So anytime someone has a, you know,
indie comic that they have and they want
to bring a character to life and they
want me to cosplay it, you know, I,
I have a rate or something and,
I offer them, you know,
some high quality photos and hopefully
they like it.
And this, this past one, um, with Jenna,
the vampire, he was happy.
So, and again, I, I, um,
I just kind of went for it.
I said, you know,
I don't have a professional photographer
or anything like that,
but I use my own, uh, backdrop.
And again,
I think it's just the confidence in just
bringing that character to life.
You know what I mean?
And just really.
embodying them and just you know i held
my little bottle of beer and because he's
like yeah she likes to drink her beer
i was like oh okay all right i
bought my little fangs and i just yeah
you know it's so those pictures if
anybody's interested they can go to your
instagram at film girl d and see some
of those and it looked like you were
having just like the time of your life
with that so
I love that.
And I love a lot.
I love like horror too.
So getting to play, you know,
vampires always neat.
So that's a perfect segue actually,
because you are also the witch of Yazoo
from Mississippi Macabre,
which is a really,
really just phenomenal looking cover for
that book.
Yeah.
How did you end up at that one?
Was that,
what was your very first one like that
you were actually a part of?
Um,
so the first one was the Marianne Max
and then I did the, well,
Steven actually just did it up.
Like that was a photo I had taken
on my own,
just a photo shoot I had taken on
my own.
Just,
I was kind of just being a gothy
witch and he showed me that and he's
like, I'm using that.
Like, that's cool.
Can I use that as.
my cover and i was like i would
be honored that's amazing and that's
actually kind of cool that just a random
like you having fun you know yeah that's
probably my favorite one too of all of
them that's probably my favorite one was
the uh mississippi macabre is one of those
where i'm like damn i wish i would
have been in on that one you know
just start to get the book so incredibly
talented so incredibly talented
So that's a total of four comic book
characters right now.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I'm,
I'm still very much in my infancy of
doing all this.
So I'm just still very honored though,
that, you know, people still want me to,
you know,
portray their characters and they're
giving me the chance.
Cause that's essentially how,
you start, right?
You know?
Yeah.
Oh no.
I mean, a hundred percent.
Like you look at like some of the,
um,
the girls who do like Vampirella and Red
Sonja and those cosplay covers.
A hundred percent.
Some of them have been doing it for
like years and years.
And it's just like, they're, you know,
they were born to be these, these,
those characters.
Yeah.
You've taken it a step further and go,
Hey,
just throw me a character and I gotcha.
Yeah.
It's kind of just like, you know,
I got, yeah.
So I really try to kind of like,
yeah, put my, you know, it's my acting,
uh,
incorporate that like with my history of
acting and all that.
And it's just,
that gives me the confidence to kind of,
you know,
because essentially when with acting,
you're obviously you're, you're,
you're pretending, right.
You're, you're putting on.
Oh yeah.
And so that's essentially what it is.
It's just getting to play pretend and
yeah.
And it's all about just having fun,
you know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
So for each of these characters, do you,
like,
how do you prepare yourself from a mental
standpoint to become these characters that
you've gotten the luxury to play?
Yeah.
Like, are you like,
I'm going to sit myself in a quiet
room and, you know,
do the whole acting thing,
whatever it is they do to get themselves
into the...
to the mindset of these characters you
know what it depends it could be i
might just have like the the desire to
do it at like three in the morning
and just be like i'm in the mood
i'm gonna do this now you know or
it could be something i've planned and i'm
like you know what tomorrow at seven
o'clock we're gonna plan this we've
we've eaten, we've,
we've taken a nice walk.
We're ready to go.
You know what I mean?
It just depends.
Sometimes I'm just like,
I guess that's having ADHD.
It's just kind of like that.
And I'm the same with myself.
I feel like ADHD is like the one
common thing every creative has in common.
That's whether it's diagnosed or not.
Like, I think that's all of us.
I mean, yeah.
Like, I mean,
in many ways it can be frustrating,
but also at the same time, it's, um,
That's why I'm creative.
I've always been like this.
And that's just kind of, you know,
in a way it's my own superpower.
I mean, we,
our minds have to keep going.
Like it's just, it's how we're wired.
We, if we're not doing something,
we're thinking of what we should be doing
or what we forgot that we should have
done already.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, with my,
like the film work and stuff, it's funny.
I could work twelve,
fourteen hours on a film set,
but you get me nine to five at
an office job.
I can't do it.
I've done it for many years and it's
just I need to be doing, doing,
doing things just like in the film world.
You're always like there's always
different people you're meeting.
There's always different things you're
seeing.
You know, you're on a different set.
and uh so that's i there's nowhere else
i'd rather be than in the native world
and that's i think that's kind of what
led me to where i'm at with this
because i mean i have a nine to
five yeah i love my nine to five
but it my nine to five also allows
me plenty of the freedom to have creative
things outside of it and if i'm sitting
at my office desk working i'm like oh
i got an idea for something and i
could just type it up and shoot it
to myself and that's so nice right that's
it really is because i mean i do
so much of my my interview writing
at work or yeah i have a i
have a template that i is like i
use yeah then i kind of fill in
for the person who's going to be on
the show but every now and then there's
something like you've seen it firsthand
when we were talking backstage i was like
oh i missed a question i really want
to ask and i put it in yeah
and that's how i am like i have
this you know pre-built stuff but i'm like
as I'm sitting at my desk, I'm like,
Ooh, this might pop up.
Yeah.
Let me shoot that to myself and I'll
get, I'll have like.
Ten,
fifteen emails from myself on stuff I want
to add to certain interviews and stuff
like that.
And.
I'm like,
thank God I got one of those jobs
where I can have that freedom where
somebody's not watching me like right here
all the time.
Right.
And I can just do my job.
And if something comes into my head,
I can either shoot myself a message on
Facebook or what have you and just have
it waiting for me when I get home.
Yeah.
So but which character do you think you've
played that felt most like you and which
one was kind of like that was not
me at all?
This could either be from the comic book
world or from roles you played in a
movie.
Who I resonate with the most?
Yeah.
Ooh, that's tough.
That's a tough one.
You know what?
There's so many different characters and
aspects of characters that
where you kind of can relate to them
in some ways,
where you don't relate to them in some
ways.
Yeah, that's a tough one.
Sorry,
I can't give you a full answer on
that.
No, that's fine.
That's fine.
it's one of those where you know because
you hear people like they'll take roles in
a movie and be like i you know
like whether they hated it or they were
like that just didn't resonate with me but
the money was good you know right so
it's one of those where i'm like it's
one of those where a this is my
first time ever interviewing like somebody
who's kind of like been in both those
sides of the world right i know people
who are like oh i want to be
uh
I want to write movies from Hollywood and
here they are writing comic books,
you know?
Right.
Cause you know,
there's some connections there.
It's like,
if you can write a movie script,
you can write a comic book script.
Absolutely.
Somewhat.
But like to just, you know,
it's one of those where I don't want
to, I don't like to ask like questions.
I would never do that.
Cause I think that's,
fucking the worst journalism in the world.
Yeah.
But um,
I like to ask questions that are like,
they make you think and be like, Oh,
I wonder.
But um, so what do you think?
So you've had this opportunities to collab
with different
a comic book you know publishers and
artists and writers what do you think
makes a great collaboration between a
creator and a model who is doing model
work for their character i think just uh
being able to openly express um what you
feel comfortable with um
you know,
like what their expectation kind of is
for,
for their vision and just being able to
kind of understand one another and just
having that relationship where you're,
you're,
you're able to just kind of,
you know what I mean?
Like where you just kind of understand
what it is we're doing.
We're working together.
This is what I would like from you.
This is what I would like from you.
I'm not really comfortable with this.
That's okay.
You know,
like there's a situation where I'm like,
oh,
I took some pictures and I'm not really
sure about that.
And then, you know,
there's times where they're like,
that's totally fine.
Like we don't need to do that.
it's just kind of having that nice
relationship where you really like
understand the good open communication
where you can talk and speak openly to
the person absolutely and that one is such
a huge across every board yeah learn to
communicate people is what we're saying
because i've had people too that wanted to
you know take photos and stuff like that
and i've had to say like no you
know like i think
like my grandmother,
she used to drive the injured soldiers
back in the war and we have one
of her old uniforms and I had taken
a picture in the uniform and I had
a photographer approach me and he's like,
I'd love to do photo shoots with that,
like to do that.
And I was just kind of like, no,
like that was kind of a one-time thing,
you know,
I just need you to be respectful.
Like this was my grandmother's and you
know,
it's not something I really want to kind
of be.
Yeah.
And I imagine the threads on that uniform
might be getting a little.
Yeah.
So I want to, you know,
honor her and like respect her.
You know, it doesn't she was teeny.
So, I mean,
there was just like one time where I
was quite tiny at the time and I
had fit it and I was just kind
of like, OK,
now I'm going to take it off.
I got to keep it safe, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's nice that and I think that's one
thing.
I'm proud of myself for doing is that
I'm getting better at saying no,
if I'm not comfortable.
Yeah.
I think that's a hard thing for a
lot of people to say.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's, I've always been like, Oh,
maybe.
And then I'm like,
I don't really want to do it.
And I would do it,
but I'm getting better at saying like, no,
you know what?
That's not really my style.
Not really my, you know,
my kind of jam.
So yeah, it's just getting better.
better with saying no yeah no that's
that's great i mean that's that's growth
as a person right yeah you can start
saying no to people and and trust me
that's hard as a like being a people
pleaser your whole life and then all of
a sudden you get to that point where
you can just say no i don't think
so yeah like i've had people who want
me to like do um be a reader
for them like are you familiar with like
like self tapes and that and like having
a reader it's like having yeah read the
opposite lines for you like i've had some
people approach me and say can you help
me with this and and you know it
sometimes requires a lot of you and you
know my time is precious so sometimes it's
like you know i think you got this
and um i'm gonna just like you know
respectfully say it's okay like no thanks
um but good luck you know yeah yeah
you know and and
it's not ever that's that's that's a lot
though i mean that's like a script is
like long yeah and that's what i mean
like there are some people who've asked
and there's like quite a few lines i'm
like this is like a lot you know
like maybe give me money and no but
um obviously like my film friends i mean
obviously you can't do shit for free you
know you have to i mean yeah yeah
No, the rents come and do right.
You got to eat.
One of the things that Evan emphasized,
he said, don't do things for free.
You know what I mean?
Because people want to just like use you,
your, your photo or can I use that?
And it's like, no.
Okay.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
At the end of the day,
we're in the business of being creatives
and being a creative person.
is at the end of the day i
got to make something that's why i have
a nine to five right now now when
this starts you know making me money i
will probably be like okay can this
sustain me and then if you can that's
when i'll probably go okay i'm logging off
of my nine to five and this is
now my full time right but until that
happens it's till then you know
Or if I could get a sponsor that
says, Hey,
we want to pay you full time to
do this.
Then yeah, absolutely.
Yep.
Yep.
And people will respect you more too.
You know, like same with like my artwork,
like I've mentioned to you,
like I do art myself.
And I've had people just kind of see
like, can you draw my daughter for me?
And,
you know, and, and,
and they never really kind of come through
with payment and, you know,
so I think I definitely have to get
better with kind of setting those
boundaries and like contracts and stuff
like that.
And definitely want to do that.
Getting better with that.
If you're interested in Dee's artwork,
you can go to Redbubble.
The link is down in the description.
Check out her art.
Pick you up some of those really cool
pin-up stickers that she has.
I've got a few little things on there.
I tend to do a little bit more
of caricature kind of cartoon work.
You never know.
Maybe I will collaborate in the art world,
not just my modeling stuff.
You never know.
I'd like to create my own
kind of comic someday i'm not too sure
exactly what but that's actually kind of a
good segue into the next question i wanted
to ask okay what should indie creators
know before working with a a muse or
a model for like either a comic book
or bring in one of their characters to
life for let's say a comic con or
something like that they want to bring you
in and have you cosplay their characters
what's
what should they know before doing that
before contacting somebody like yourself
or another model or something?
Just really, really pay attention.
Like, are they the right fit?
Like,
do you feel like they are the right
fit for you?
Um, um, of course, like, you know,
rates and stuff like that.
Um,
is it something that you're willing to
pay, you know, um,
you don't want to end up kind of
just being like, Oh, you know,
I can't pay you anything or, you know,
kind of getting on the scene.
I like,
are you able to work together harmoniously
and, you know, make it work?
Yeah.
Do you have different kind of views that
might interfere things to, you know,
like not to get political or anything like
that, but you know,
it's kind of like if someone was to
say, are you willing to play a,
you know, a Trump thumping, you know,
supporter or something like that.
Like, you know,
do those kinds of things align?
You know what I mean?
Like if it's something I'm not, again,
coming to saying no,
if being able to say, no,
that's not really my thing.
I'm going to step away from that,
but this person would be great.
You know what I mean?
And it's, you know, it's,
it's just kind of comes down to,
are they the right fit?
The puzzle piece?
Do they fit well with,
your vision and and you can kind of
tell from you know their um portfolios
their profiles their websites you know
So do you yourself, do you have a,
um,
so if somebody was to contact you to
either become a character for them or,
or anything like that,
do you have a contract that you now
send to them?
Like, Hey, here's my rates.
Here's a contract.
If you want to do this and they
would have to contact Jason Doobie on J
uh, scattered studios.
So he,
so he's kind of like my manager in
that sense.
So we would kind of arrange kind of
different rates and stuff.
Um,
to kind of figure that out together.
So that's you can check Jason Duby.
I believe he's scattered comics on
Instagram, but it's,
I'm kind of more of under the umbrella
of scattered studios.
But there is a website for that and
I'm listed on there and you can see
that we have like different rates and
that,
and they can kind of check that out
and yeah.
Or, you know,
they can always just shoot me a message
on Instagram.
You know what I mean?
At film girl day.
Yeah, Film Girl D.
I tend to do accents too, people.
I am an actress.
Yeah,
she had free reign to just do whatever
accent she wanted this whole time.
Yeah, I was like, please,
I watch a lot of Golden Girls,
so Blanche Devereaux, you know,
so please don't mind if I break into
a few accents.
So,
You are an actress.
You have been amused in comic books.
How does it feel knowing that your roles
in movies and shows, you're...
You being the muse for comic book
characters and covers and how does it feel
knowing that those are going to be here
forever?
Long after we're gone,
those things are going to be there.
Yeah, it's crazy to think about that,
isn't it?
Like,
what kind of legacy are you going to
leave behind?
What are you going to be remembered for?
And so, yeah,
that's that's kind of a neat thing to
think about.
But you don't really think about you're
kind of like, oh, yeah, yes,
there's going to be a day when I'm
not here.
But, you know,
that movie that I was in where I
played a mom in the mall,
someone's going to watch that.
And, you know.
enjoy it and it'll bring them happiness
you know um i think about that a
lot with like harry potter like so many
of the actors have passed from harry
potter and i think oh my god like
they just brought so much joy like to
my childhood and just like michael gambon
and uh or i don't i don't know
it was uh richard lewis or sorry harris
richard harris sorry i'm getting all the
names dumbledore and uh
Maggie Smith.
She's so wonderful.
Their characters are forever going to live
on.
I think out of all of them that
hurt the most, Maggie's was the worst.
Then Hagrid.
I'm a fan of Dumbledore,
but Hagrid and Maggie,
both of those really sucked.
Yeah.
No, but that's the beauty of everything.
You know what I mean?
It's like,
what are you going to leave behind for
others to enjoy in the future?
A hundred percent.
You have to put your stamp on your
life.
Yeah.
That way people will remember the good
stuff.
Yeah.
That's why I try to go forward with
kindness and just positivity and
everything and just not take life so
serious because there's just so much.
you know,
we could often just get so consumed with
negativity or what's going on in the world
that we forget, you know, the goodness,
you know what I mean?
And just like,
I was just going for a walk and
just looking at the geese,
they're happily together.
I'm like, they don't have any problems.
Canadian geese.
Yeah.
Get it as national treasures.
Walking to Tim Hortons and I saw my
friend, the geese.
Yeah.
I sound super Canadian.
You get yourself a half,
half and half of some Tim bits.
A half and half or a double,
double in the,
Do you guys say,
I guess you don't say double, double.
Hey, that's a. You know,
half and half is like half cream,
half coffee for those who are wondering
what we're talking about.
And Tim bits are just donut holes.
They are.
But they're like, yes, yes.
A hundred percent.
And I'm so glad because Tim Hortons is
finally making its way down to the coast
that I'm on.
So I'm like.
Even in the UK,
my friend Amy from the UK mentioned she
went to Tim Hortons.
Hi, Amy.
I love my friend Amy.
But yeah, she says,
we've got a Tim Hortons here,
so
That's kind of cute.
It feels like there's a little,
I got so many good friends over in
the UK and I always enjoy when they
come on the show.
Cause I do,
I keep Saturdays open for my friends in
the UK.
If they want to come on and talk
about whatever project they're working on
that.
So Saturday mornings at am or for my
friends in the UK.
So I love it.
Yeah.
That that's,
I will always have a Saturday open for,
for those guys.
And yeah,
I feel like I should have a day
like that.
That's just dedicated to like my English.
It's every day that ends in Y, right?
Yeah.
I just had a, uh, saw Rob on,
saw Rob who created comments dot one and
he's a Australian.
So I got to do a show in
two different days of the world at the
same time.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
That was really cool.
This is my second time I've gotten to
do that.
Because I've also interviewed- That's
quite great.
Wow, that's awesome if you ask me.
I love Steve Irwin.
I've also interviewed somebody-
I've also interviewed somebody from New
Zealand, which was really cool as well.
Yeah.
So I was getting to do a show
in the U S where it's Friday and
then they are Saturday.
So it's two, you know, one show,
two days.
So cool to like.
That is.
And that's what is so great about like,
you know, um,
the internet and everything like that like
just that we're all able to connect in
that way yeah and just like like i
said i my friend amy who i love
dearly like we've been friends for years
and years and it's just like being able
to connect with them and share things with
them and and and the same with um
like you know comics and everything like
that like um there are times where
You know,
there were times where Evan was feeling
discouraged, like, oh, you know,
sometimes it's not taken off in Winnipeg.
But then I say,
but what about all your fans in the
States?
You forget about the ones like, yeah,
but tons of fans in the US.
You know what I mean?
So it's something you got to think about.
Like, it's all over my red bubble.
I had somebody buy a postcard from
Germany.
Like, come on.
That's how cool is that, though?
Like.
and that's what's great about what it is
that we do is we were able to
connect with fans from all over the world
and bring i get to i got somebody
else coming on from um ireland i can't
remember if it's this month or next month
yeah but it's so cool like to have
somebody from ireland you know contact me
and go hey i want to come on
your podcast and talk about my comic book
right
From Ireland.
It's so cool.
It's, like, phenomenal.
Like,
the one thing that kind of connects us
all to some degree is, like,
something as simple as a comic book.
A comic book.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's so true.
And it just makes us all feel like
at one.
It was almost like...
you know, during the pandemic,
how we were all kind of like in
it together.
We're like, well, you know,
like it wasn't just,
it wasn't just you in one country.
It wasn't just, it was all of us,
you know, all in this together.
So it's kind of like, yeah.
That was such a horrible time.
It's such a horrible time.
And, uh, but, uh, that was,
but there was a lot of really amazing
comics that come out in that era.
I think that helped the industry take off
again in a positive direction because
everybody was sitting at home.
What are you going to do?
Creatives were really creating.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They didn't have a whole lot of choice.
You know, they had, they had,
otherwise you're sitting there with a
brown thumb.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's, I mean, of,
of all that kind of craziness,
it's nice that there was like some kind
of good bit in the end,
a little bit.
Yeah.
I mean,
you gotta take something positive from
that experience.
Otherwise you would,
you'd still be driving yourself crazy,
I guess.
For sure.
But let's, let's do this.
Would you want to co-create your own comic
book character?
I think so.
You know,
I've got so many different people now that
I've met.
I mean, you're part of the industry now.
I'm now technically kind of part of the
industry.
I know.
It's hard for me to think.
I'm like, I'm not really.
But I'm like, no, I kind of am.
I'm a little bit woven in there.
But I think, you know,
just like taking maybe some advice from
friends and people who have been doing it
for years and just kind of seeing...
where to go from there and what to,
you know,
I don't even know what I would create.
I think it's just,
you just got to just start somewhere.
You know what I mean?
Start writing things down.
Start with a notebook.
Yeah.
That's how I did it.
Yeah.
I had my original idea that I'm working
on right now.
It was just notebooks and just me writing
notes and then typing my notes out later
and then going, okay,
this is so disorganized and then just
organizing my thoughts and doing all these
things and
And I think that what it is is
like I'm such a creative person and
sometimes I just have so much in my
head that I don't know how to like.
Yeah, I don't write them down.
Where I'm just like,
you know what I mean?
It's almost like I wish I had someone
to kind of just like organize.
I guess that's what medication is for.
But but you know what I mean?
Like I just sometimes I just have so
many ideas.
But you're right.
Just putting it like kind of putting it
on paper.
Yeah.
just getting it going, you know,
and if you don't have a text message
thread to yourself,
are you really doing it?
Yeah.
Yes.
I do that on a Facebook messenger.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Like the name of the pizza delivery guy.
So I can remember him and say like,
Hey, you know,
tall pizza delivery guy with beard,
you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That thread to yourself for sure.
yeah i mean you you have to have
a thread to yourself otherwise it you know
just as you're driving and you get to
the red light like oh i want to
forget this one night i know i'll
sometimes scroll and i'm like what the
hell was i going through that day yeah
that's the worst is but i gotta take
my lot there's like quotes in there and
i'm gonna take my notes and like like
put them onto a document or something on
my computer and i'm like
I don't know what that one was for.
I'm going to put that one in my,
uh,
my unknown stack and maybe it'll come to
me later.
You're like, okay, April of,
I was kind of going through something.
Okay.
Like, why did I put fuck that guy?
Yeah.
Like, who is that guy at that?
Like, what day was this?
Like,
I don't even know who it was anymore.
I'm like, OK, that one can be deleted.
And then I'll be back like two weeks
later.
I'm like, oh,
I remember who that guy was.
Yeah.
Still.
Right.
Fuck that guy.
or it's like screenshots they say that
with adhd people they're like do you have
adhd uh like if you don't have an
entire like uh photo album screenshots
yeah that you never look back on like
i have all these quotes and or recipes
and it's just like i never look back
at them
and then you screenshot them again to
bring them forward and you're like maybe
now and no and then you go to
like you want to clear out your phone
because all of a sudden your phone is
like running out of memory and you go
you go to your photos and it's like
oh let me see if there's any duplicates
and there's like there's like in of the
same screenshot you're like well it can't
be that important if i have ten of
them like why do i have ten of
the same screenshot i know it's so bad
guilty of that one and that was literally
a me i had ten of the same
screenshot because i kept forgetting it
and then i didn't i never needed it
i never needed it nice to know i'm
not alone on that no no there's plenty
of us out there yeah but um what
kind of comic world would you want to
exist in
Something sci-fi.
I'm going to say Star Wars,
because we were talking about Star Wars
earlier.
Ever since I was young,
that has been my bread and butter.
I've loved Star Wars, anything like that.
Just galactic.
Something like that.
That's just... You know, it's funny.
It's because our generation is either Star
Wars or Star Trek.
There's not an in-between on that.
It's always one or the other.
Exactly.
It's been very divided, yeah.
I will say, though, I have been enjoying.
So they did the I think it was
Dark Horse Comets did Star Trek red
shirts.
The red shirts are the ones that always
get killed.
Right.
OK.
So the comic book was basically about the
red shirts just getting killed.
OK.
So I thought that was really cool.
And then I really like the the current
Star Trek live action Star Trek that is
on TV.
where it's like the Academy or whatever it
is, where they're like the new,
the new fleet is coming up.
I really, I've really enjoyed that one.
And I didn't think I would, but again,
there was no star Wars on at the
time.
So, but I really enjoyed that.
I feel like something different.
Well,
it's kind of like when I was younger
and it was like,
are you a Backstreet Boys girl or an
NSYNC girl?
And it was kind of like a big
thing.
Like it was.
Of all things.
Yeah.
Like you can't like them both.
It was always one or the other.
So.
Crazy.
Well,
they in secret recorded their first studio
album in my hometown at.
What's the name of the place now?
Brain fart in the studio.
That's all good.
But it's it's in my hometowns.
And then they did a album signing at
the Walmart that I worked.
So it was kind of wild, like beginnings.
Yeah, it was just really crazy.
And then like, shit,
probably two weeks later,
I'm watching MTV after school and like TLC
comes on, you know, yeah, I'm like,
holy shit, I just seen those dudes.
Oh,
fame is the name of the recording studio.
Send muscle shows Alabama fame recording
studio.
yeah and um yeah it was kind of
wild like i went from seeing them like
i seen them like i got an autograph
i'm like i'm not gonna bs anybody i
got one from my cousin because i had
to work that day i was working i
was like who the fuck are these guys
and then like no shit like two weeks
later they dropped their first studio
album and
They were on MTV.
I was like, it works, man.
What the, I just like, shit.
I wish I would've been a little bit
nicer to him and telling him instead of
telling him to get the hell out of
my way so I could work.
I was trying to clock in and like,
they were like in the way.
I was like, you know,
I was really rude.
Not gonna lie.
But, uh,
why it's always good to be kind right
you never know exactly exactly big and you
know and remember i think it's winona
ryder said there was some girl that was
a bully to her in school and then
one day she kind of was trying to
hit her up for money and say like
hey remember me from school and it's like
i remember is this uh before or after
the sat incident for winona
I think this was like, this is, Ooh,
that's a, I don't remember.
I don't know.
Cause yeah,
that was quite a while ago when that
happened.
Yeah.
It was actually probably in that same
timeframe we were just talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She made her comeback with Stranger Things
and stuff.
She was always phenomenal to me.
It was one of those where I was
like, I don't care if she got busted.
She was young at the time.
You're going to do stupid shit.
She was probably going through hard times.
We don't know the reason why.
There must have been a reason why she
felt that she had to do it.
She's come around again and
I absolutely love her.
She's in The Beetlejuice, too,
and Stranger Things.
She was amazing in,
and it's just been really cool to kind
of watch this really cool full circle with
her coming back.
Yeah.
What's his name?
Sean.
Oh, Sean Astin.
Sean Astin, yeah.
Yeah.
Like, from the Goonies to...
right to stranger things i was just like
yeah and lord of the rings i was
like that's my dude right there yeah like
i always enjoy like anytime like he pops
up in something elijah wood's been in some
really like weird movies throughout the
years where you're like like holy elijah
man why don't you like but damn i
like it yeah you know like just those
odd character roles that he'll pick up and
he'll do
And I'm like,
I don't want to like this, but damn,
I like it.
Versatile.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's cool.
You know that he's not, you know,
I think Daniel Radcliffe from Harry Potter
was kind of worried that he was going
to just always be tight cast type cast.
But he's had some great roles, you know,
he has.
And one of my favorite one is the
one where he got the horns or whatever.
Oh,
I'm trying to think of what that is.
I think it's just called horns.
Is it?
It was just a really odd movie that
he was in.
Yeah.
But it was so fun.
Yeah, it was kind of an awe.
And then the one where he was,
what was he,
like a Swiss army man or whatever.
Yeah.
Where he's like,
I don't know if he's dead or if
he's in a coma or what.
Just the dead body and the guy's like,
yeah.
Yeah, and he's like, you know,
like to knock down stuff.
And I was just like, dude,
this is hilarious.
I love him.
I always thought he was so sweet and
so cute.
Harry Potter came out.
I thought he was so cute.
He looked like a young John Lennon.
Actually, damn, I never... Yeah.
He did, didn't he?
Especially with the little round glasses
when he was playing Harry Potter.
Minus the drug addiction in Yoko.
Yeah.
I did meet the villain from Harry Potter,
Tom Felton, at a Comic-Con.
He's another one.
He's...
And he's such a good actor too.
I wish he was in more things.
Yeah.
And I told him, I said, you know,
like we grew up together,
like you were Malfoy.
I said, but like,
I'll always remember you as Malfoy,
but it's nice to see you evolve and
kind of go into music and all these
types of things.
But yeah, he was so sweet and,
It's funny.
Some of the worst villains out there are
some of the nicest people in real life.
Same thing goes for the wrestling world.
Some of the meanest heels you'll see on
TV are some of the nicest people you'll
ever meet in real life.
They're good actors.
like tugboat tugboat's a big one that
always comes to mind he played this
horrible hill on tv yeah he hated it
like he just did not like being a
bad guy because he loved kids he loved
like i was he was a family guy
he had children and they you know he
wanted to you know be able to interact
with the fans and the crowds and the
kids because the kids loved him this big
old dude you know named boat
Yeah.
And he he he was so happy when
he got to go back to being,
you know, a baby face.
And I was he was like,
he just hated being a hill.
And that's interesting that you say that,
because I think for roles,
I have the hardest time when it's somebody
just like a regular Joe Schmo, I think.
I would much prefer to play someone that
is extremely opposite than me,
like a villain or something.
You know what I mean?
They say a villain is easy to play
if you can get yourself in the mindset.
And there's a lot of people who have
played a lot of really good villains out
there that just – like they hated it,
but they were so damn good at it.
Again, Harry Potter.
I don't know if you're familiar,
if you were a Harry Potter guy at
all.
I am, a hundred percent.
Dolores Umbridge.
I think her name's Amelia Stanton.
Yeah.
Hated her.
Hated her in that movie.
Oh, but she was so damn good, though.
That means she didn't...
The moment you see her in the bright
pink suit, you just immediately hated her.
The way she cut her eyes.
She's an amazing actor that can do that.
That has that power to make you hate
them.
And then you have Maggie who played...
I can't remember who she played.
McGonagall.
Yeah, Professor McGonagall.
She was like...
the first time you see her come from,
she's the cat on the desk.
Remember?
And she jumps up on,
and then she comes into the class.
You're like, yep.
All right.
I love that.
Like that is like, I'm like,
I'm in iconic.
And I loved her like in,
in what's it called?
The secret garden and all those kinds of,
but yeah, she's just, yeah.
She was just such a sweet, sweet woman.
So talented.
Oh yeah.
So what's the future looking like, Dee?
What you got coming up for us?
So I just got finished doing a lot
of film work.
I had a lot of continuity on some
stuff.
And now I've submitted a few self-tapes
for some commercials.
So hoping to maybe hear back for something
like that because I've never done a
commercial before.
That would be really cool.
That would be nice.
And it's always cool when you see
commercials and you're like, wait,
is that?
Yeah.
Right?
I know I could do like a commercial
for like hemorrhoid cream.
I don't care.
Whatever.
Lay it on me.
I'll sell it for you.
Come on.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
You know, it's, it's, it's all fun.
Like, like I just,
I love doing something that I like.
It's just something that I enjoy.
You know what I mean?
Oh yeah.
So what would be your dream role?
I know we've kind of talked about this
before, but like, what would,
what do you think is your like,
I would quit everything I'm doing right
now for this.
Shit.
Again, something like maybe a villain,
somebody like just some kick-ass
character,
just badass chick like Mila Jovovich,
Resident Evil type stuff.
yeah like just badass you know just like
a woman kicking ass like something like
that i know we had talked also previously
about you wanting to be a announcer for
wrestling as well yeah that was something
that um i was kind of thinking of
um again um being introduced to wrestling
with the lucha mystery from evan and and
the wrestling world and all that kind of
stuff.
I've seen some wrestling shows.
I was even in a wrestling scene for
a movie last year.
So I was just in the crowd kind
of, yeah.
And so just something like that would like
be kind of neat to do.
And I don't know.
I mean,
I can give you some good advice on
that one.
I'm sure there's plenty of little
wrestling promotions around Winnipeg.
As a matter of fact,
I know there is.
Just like, slide into their DMs.
Just like, hey.
Am I able to get paid?
You know what I mean?
Like, my time is precious.
Yeah, no, I get that.
I don't know.
That's one of those where I don't know
how the promotion's doing.
I know some very much will pay.
It may not be a lot.
You may get a cut of the gate.
Right.
I don't know how they do that for
those types of positions.
Yeah.
I have a very powerful voice.
I hope I'm not yelling too much in
this interview.
No.
I kind of forget the magnitude of my
long...
I wish more people would project more.
I'm used to it because I'm always sitting
here in front of the microphone.
So I'm used to projecting my voice to
the microphone.
Right.
But that's something I think because I've
done theater in the past and like being
a film actor, you have to,
it's the opposite.
So you have to reel it in.
So that's where I struggle.
So it's like, so with an announcer,
that would be kind of interesting because
you are very much kind of, whoa.
You got to bring it up.
You got to bring it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I've, I've been told from people like,
you know, you have a good radio voice,
you have a good,
like you can do boy.
I like to try to do voiceover work.
Um, I see that come across fine.
There's, um,
was it a Facebook group or it might've
been something on Instagram where, um,
there's always this constant need for
voice actors and, um,
I was like, I'm too Southern for that.
I can't like,
unless somebody needs a hillbilly
character, then, Hey, yeah, hit me up.
But no,
I always see it come across and I'm
just like, you know,
like that's like something that you could
easily just pick up and fall into because
as an actress, you,
that's your money right there is your
voice and you're, you know,
Yeah.
And I mean, it's like, yeah,
falls under the umbrella of everything
else in the industry.
So that's definitely something I would
really love to do.
Because, yeah,
I'm very much like an animated person.
And, you know,
I'll see people go into my English accent
and they'll kind of be like,
what's going on?
And I'm just like, you know,
how are you today?
Yeah.
If that was me,
I would just troll people, like,
all the time.
Like,
I would see a person one day and
speak to them in an English accent.
And then when I ran into them again,
like, a week later,
I would just talk to a normal.
Yeah.
And then just have them go.
I'd be like, hello, you know,
I'm here from, yeah, you know,
I'm just in from the UK.
Yorkshire.
Yorkshire.
Really?
And I'm like, yeah.
Yeah.
next week you can see him again and
just be like what's up man what's up
like yeah i love that i thought you
were from yorkshire like yeah that's
somebody else that's somebody else what
are you talking about you met my twin
i think but we're gonna bring it home
for you all right so if any creator
right now is watching or listening later
what kind of characters should they
what kind of character should they build
with you?
Or what kind of character would you want
them to build for you or around you?
Like if they were to contact you, like,
like,
ad i have this character idea i want
to use you as the muse like what
kind of characters are you what would you
want to be again because something kind of
dark i'm very much into those like kind
of like horror characters like just
something kind of dark and you've been a
witch and you've been a vampire feminine
there's just something so sexy and just so
um
intoxicating with like characters that are
just so it's funny like so opposite me
i guess because i i tend to think
i'm just kind of like your bubble gum
type thing and it's like kind of having
an alter ego right yeah that one yeah
yeah so like when when you dress up
like a witch or something you know you
get to embrace that inner right that black
cat energy
I was like,
I think he's in the other room.
He's in my daughter's room.
I think he spends all his days in
there.
Like he's a bum.
Like the other two back there,
both sleeping.
But, um,
so D we're going to wrap it up.
Where can people find you?
And if they wanted to work with you,
how could they work with you?
So again,
you can find me on Instagram at Film
Girl D and also on the Scattered Studios
website.
I'm listed there with all the other
cosplayers and stuff like that.
You can always just shoot me a message
on Instagram.
Also, if you want to see my work,
film work,
it's on IMDB and you can just type
in Dionne Waterman and I'll pop up there.
Following the link in the description.
Yeah.
So again,
just kind of testing out all my avenues
right now and just seeing, you know,
if I get any bites,
throwing those reels out and seeing if I
get any nibbles and yeah, just having fun.
So first off,
I want to say thank you for coming
on and kind of like talking to us
about a different side of the indie comic
book world that I've been wanting to
explore.
And I thought you were like the perfect
fit because, you know, I first, you know,
we first met when I had Evan on
the podcast and then, um,
I wanted to explore something different
and kind of like really show people
there's multiple aspects and multiple
avenues within any comic book world.
Cause there's people like you who inspire
characters who put on the costume to
become a comic book cover and you don't
have to show everything to do it.
You can do the whole conversion of a
dark character or of a attractive
character.
You don't have to,
take off your clothes to do it.
Right.
And that's so, yeah,
that's something that's so important too.
Cause I think, you know,
you do see a lot of that kind
of sex.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Almost every Kickstarter out there,
every other Kickstarter has that.
And you know what, to each his own,
if it sells their stuff, hey,
but you know what, like,
I just know me personally,
I think there's a different way of
bringing out, you know,
your sexual sexuality and you can be sexy
just with confidence and, you know,
just exuding that.
And that's what's most important is just
having that kind of confidence in
yourself, how you portray yourself.
the character, really.
It has nothing to do with the...
I feel like I could put on a
potato sack,
but if you get me in front of
the lights, the camera, the action,
you get some nice music going,
I will sell that potato sack to you,
okay?
I will make it work.
Work.
I like it.
And I appreciate you bringing us a
different aspect to the indie comic book
world.
And like I said,
I'm wanting to explore different avenues.
I do have some publishers coming on soon
who actually publish comic books so I can
talk to them about
you know, like, hey,
what do you look for?
And I just had Saurabh on.
Saurabh.
Saurabh.
I have to do this to remember how
to say his name.
But he's the creator of Comics.One,
who is like this brilliant,
beautiful platform for indie comics.
So I'm really wanting to branch out and
not just talk to creators and artists,
but
people who inspire them,
the people who build the things that they
need to make longevity in the comic book
industry.
So thank you for that and for sharing
your career with us and kind of what's
next for you, which is really cool.
I appreciate that.
And hopefully we can have you back on
another time for sure.
When you do your next comic book cover.
Yeah, I appreciate all that you do, too.
You know, like it's, you know,
having people come together and also
network and be able to kind of,
you know,
get to know new people and learn.
That's the best part about this job,
because it literally without Evan,
you wouldn't be here now.
And it's just so cool, you know,
that it's just so amazing how you meet
so many new people.
And, you know,
it's just always it's always just ever
flowing and doing that.
all this calls an indie comic book and
it's this wonderful thing about the map
the friends you made the connections and
all these things and eventually it comes
to this right yep which is really cool
to me but i'm gonna bring it home
don't run off so for you
From stepping in front of the camera to
becoming the inspiration behind the
character.
This is what it looks like when creativity
crosses worlds.
This wasn't just a conversation about
acting.
This is about identity and transformation
and what it means to live on the
page.
Make sure you like, follow,
and share because this has been the USDN
Podcast where indie comics come to life.
Ladies and gentlemen,
the Council of Nerds is now adjourned.
Y'all be safe,
and we'll see you next time.
See you real soon.