263: How Amanda Landed a $9K Freelance Fashion Project Without a Website

What if your biggest freelance project started with a LinkedIn message... and didn’t close for another 8 months? That’s exactly how Amanda Cabania landed a $9,000 client for a women’s golf brand. With no website, minimal marketing, and a lot of uncertainty, she wasn’t sure where things would lead—but she stayed patient, followed up, and eventually got the yes. In this episode, Amanda shares how it all played out, what helped her stay grounded through the wait, and what it really looks like to grow a freelance business while raising three kids.


About Amanda:
Amanda Cabania is a fashion industry professional based in Austin, TX and a proud mom of three young children who keep her on her toes. With 14 years of experience, she began her career in corporate fashion at Forever 21 after graduating from FIDM. While she has a strong background in the corporate world, her true passion lies in supporting and helping small businesses grow. Amanda completed the FAST program just a year ago, and although freelancing is still new to her, she's excited about the journey and hopeful to make it her permanent path.

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Heidi [00:00:00]:
What if your biggest freelance project started with a LinkedIn message and didn't close for another eight months? That's exactly how Amanda Cabania landed a $9,000 client for a women's golf brand. With no website, minimal marketing, and a lot of uncertainty, she wasn't sure where things would lead. But she stayed persistent, followed up, and eventually got the yes. In this episode, Amanda shares how it all played out, what helped her stay grounded through the wait, and what it really looks like to grow a freelance business while raising three kids. All right, well, welcome to the podcast. Amanda, you shared a big win in our community, which is that you landed your biggest client yet. You've been freelancing a little over a year, and you landed your biggest client yet, which was $9,000. And I would love to hear, like, all the details.

Heidi [00:00:48]:
So I don't know where it makes the most sense to start with this project, but I guess, where did the client come from? How'd you land them?

Amanda Cabania [00:00:56]:
She found me on LinkedIn, and that's where, actually, I have gotten most of the interest from LinkedIn, because I don't have a website. I've tried. I've been trying to build a website, but it hasn't really launched yet. And I'm very. I don't have. So, I mean, I have a social media, but I haven't really done anything with it because marketing is definitely not something that I am familiar with and comfortable with and used to. So, I mean, I have personal stuff, but nothing like marketing, you know, so everyone finds me on LinkedIn. And to gain her as a client, it took a really long time.

Amanda Cabania [00:01:40]:
She first contacted me, I think November of 24.

Heidi [00:01:44]:
Okay.

Amanda Cabania [00:01:46]:
And she said that she wanted to start this golf apparel line. And I was like, great, let's talk. So we did a discovery call pretty much right away after she contacted me, and it was very exciting. She asked me what the process was and what I offered. And so after that interview, after I asked my questions, obviously, and got to know what she wanted, I sent her my proposal. And I learned everything from fast. It was like, without you, I probably would not have been able to do this. But I sent her my proposal, and she said, thank you.

Amanda Cabania [00:02:26]:
I'm going to look over it, look at all the details. And she didn't get back to me. I think. Gosh, I think it was maybe February or March. And so in between, I'm like, yeah. And in between, I'm like, I probably didn't. You know, she probably lost interest. She found someone else.

Amanda Cabania [00:02:47]:
Totally fine. You Know, but then she contacted me again and she wanted to meet one on one and told me that I was the only person that she spoke to that actually sent something after our conversation. So I was like, oh, that's great. So we met one on one. She's here in Austin, which I think is very beneficial. Yeah. And that was one of the reasons why she found me as well, because she wanted someone local and we met at a coffee shop. We, I mean, she showed me just some examples of what she wanted.

Amanda Cabania [00:03:26]:
She asked a ton of questions that I was very excited to share because, you know, freelancing and as a mom, you don't really get to have those conversations all the time, especially one on one. So I really felt like, okay, great, we're connecting. This is something that we're, you know, we are both really passionate about. She's passionate about the line that she wants to start. I am passionate about basically what my job is. So. So it was great to meet her one on one. And.

Heidi [00:04:01]:
Yeah.

Amanda Cabania [00:04:01]:
And so after that, I mean, she asked me like, what are the services? That. And at first I wanted, I mean, she wanted, I thought she wanted just tech packs. And then she, when we met one on one, she asked me what my services were. And I said I specialize in basically everything from concept through production. So I can do sourcing, I can do, you know, the pre production, samples, everything. And so she was really excited to hear that. And yeah, I. So after that, I didn't hear from her for another.

Amanda Cabania [00:04:41]:
I think June. I think it was June.

Heidi [00:04:44]:
Oh, wow.

Amanda Cabania [00:04:45]:
Yeah. So it took, it took a long process. And in between that, I thought maybe she doesn't like me, maybe she doesn't want all of these services. You know, maybe I overwhelmed her. But then finally in June, she's like, let's do it. And I was like, yay.

Heidi [00:05:06]:
Like, was there literally no communication between November and February? Like you said you had a discovery call, you sent the proposal, and then it was ghost town.

Amanda Cabania [00:05:14]:
Well, I mean, I sent her, hey, I wonder, you know, have you looked at everything that I sent? And she said, yeah, I'll. Yeah, yeah, I'll let you know. I'm so sor. And she does have another full time job. Okay. So this is, you know, a very new startup for her inaugural collection. And she explained that to me and I understood, you know, I didn't want to push too much. So after that first follow up, I backed off a little bit.

Amanda Cabania [00:05:40]:
And then in June, she, she was like, I'm ready. Let's do this.

Heidi [00:05:44]:
Yeah.

Amanda Cabania [00:05:45]:
So yeah, that's kind of how, how it all happened.

Heidi [00:05:49]:
That's so exciting. Okay, so I have so many questions. First of all, I was pulling up your LinkedIn over here. It says freelance apparel product developer and tech pack creator specializing in women's wovens and activewear. So you don't even have anything about golf in here?

Amanda Cabania [00:06:07]:
No, I don't.

Heidi [00:06:08]:
There was the, the benefit for her was you're local to her.

Amanda Cabania [00:06:14]:
I'm local and I have done activewear in the past. And in our one on one conversation I told her that I have kept a lot of the relationship within the activewear community. So like manufacturers that I've worked for or worked with, a lot of the fabric vendors I've all, you know, just sort of stayed in contact with and we have just, you know, I'm sure, you know, the fashion industry is almost like based solely on who you know, so keeping those relationships close is really important. So I'm just sort of, you know, I told her I still have those relationships and you know, they're always a great resource and I think that's sort of ultimately why she went with me. So. Yeah.

Heidi [00:07:03]:
Okay, that's amazing. And so other. Or maybe there's no other than like, other than her full time job was there. Do you know if there's a reason why it took from basically November to June? I mean, what is that, like how many months? I'm having trouble doing the math. It's eight months.

Amanda Cabania [00:07:25]:
Yeah, it was a long time.

Heidi [00:07:26]:
Like do you know what was happening during that time? And I asked this not to like be rude to her, but actually to put context into this for other freelancers because I think as a freelancer we like want the project to happen like yesterday. And from a brand side there's sometimes just so many like nuances and moving pieces and parts and especially with a startup and you've got a full time job, like there's just a lot of stuff going on until you're ready to like maybe finally pull that trigger. So do you know because it's August now that we're recording this and you closed the deal in June, so maybe now you've gotten to like work with her and talk with her a little more. Do you know like more details about what was going on during those eight months and or like why she just wasn't ready even though she initiated the discovery call back in November.

Amanda Cabania [00:08:15]:
Yeah, so in our one on one she had asked estimated prices of everything and I told her it's really hard to give you estimates because we I have not spoken to any of the, you know, resources that I have because we haven't committed to anything. So I gave her, like, a ballpark of, like, I don't know, 100 to 500. And in between, she was sort of. She was. She told me that she was talking to investors to kind of see if she could actually do this, actually be able to do this. I don't know who her investors were, but I think that was when she was able to finally pull the trigger and say, okay, let's do this.

Heidi [00:08:55]:
Okay.

Amanda Cabania [00:08:55]:
But I've never had investors, so I don't know how long that process actually takes. So I'm assuming that's probably okay. A big chunk of it.

Heidi [00:09:04]:
Yeah. And when she. When she was asking for prices. Are you saying prices for, like, manufacturing costs?

Amanda Cabania [00:09:11]:
Manufacturing costs, how much? Fabric costs, how much? My. You know, how much I charge for tech packs? All of that.

Heidi [00:09:19]:
Yeah. And so it sounds like when you had a discovery call, you were the only one she talked to who sent something afterwards, which is surprising and also not surprising because I had freelancers who I've done discovery calls with, and they've never gotten back to me, even though I felt like we had a great call. They were supposed to send me something. So this is oddly not that unusual, but it sounds like you sent a proposal after that call in November, but then the scope changed over time. And so I'd be curious to know, like, where did you ultimately land for the $9,000 project? Like, what are you doing? Would you be willing to share kind of, like, what the scope of that is and how you came to that pricing and what the evolution of the pricing was over the time that you worked with her, you talked to her from the initial discovery call to where you ultimately landed?

Amanda Cabania [00:10:09]:
Yeah, so I'm doing. I'm doing everything for her line. She has three styles. So right now we are at the stage of fabric sourcing. So I finished her tech packs. I mean, I did the initial sketch, and then when she approved the sketches that I've, you know, that I've made for her, I went ahead and did the tech pack. I, you know, found manufacturers. I tried to.

Amanda Cabania [00:10:35]:
I sent the tech packs to the manufacturers to get different quotes, sent her the pricing, and, you know, we. That was probably the biggest challenge for me, is getting her to approve pricing for manufacturing because she only wanted US manufacturers. And at the time, I had my main activewear contact and then two other contacts and to get them to lower their prices for her. She wanted. Ultimately, she wanted overseas pricing at US Manufacturing. And to me, that was very difficult to do. Yeah. And I, it got to the point where I was, I, you know, I've built these relationships in the industry, especially within manufacturing, and I didn't want to insult them by going too low because I didn't want to lose that relationship.

Amanda Cabania [00:11:33]:
So we went back and forth. I mean, my manufacturer that I was working with was very understandable. I mean, he, he did what he could. And I explained to her, this is as low as he can go. And I don't want to insult them. You know, I, I've built a relationship with them. I, I don't want to go any lower than this. And so she, she ended up actually taking it back to, I guess, the investors that she's working with and explained to them, I guess, you know, this is because ultimately I think they were the ones that were really pushing for US Manufacturing.

Amanda Cabania [00:12:07]:
I tried to dip her feet in the idea of going overseas, not necessari. There's also, you know, there's India, there's Pakistan, there's Sri Lanka. You know, there's, there's other countries that you can go to. But I think it was her investors that were very adamant about staying in the US and when she came back, when I shared that in circle, that was when she finally approved it. And so it was, that's why it's a huge win, because it was a process of just going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth, and I have a headache. So that was when she finally approved the pricing. So I am just, you know, doing everything for her. We're at the fabric sourcing stage and once we do that, we can start sampling.

Amanda Cabania [00:12:55]:
I'm doing all her pre production and yeah, so that's, that's what I'm doing.

Heidi [00:13:02]:
That's exciting. Congratulations. What a great project.

Amanda Cabania [00:13:05]:
Oh, thank you.

Heidi [00:13:07]:
Yeah. So when you say she approved the pricing, does that mean, like, she proved the pricing for the manufacturing, but she had already approved the price? The $9,000 proposal price.

Amanda Cabania [00:13:19]:
Oh, yes, yes. Yeah.

Heidi [00:13:20]:
Okay.

Amanda Cabania [00:13:20]:
For me, for my contract, My contract with her. Yeah.

Heidi [00:13:23]:
That was already approved.

Amanda Cabania [00:13:25]:
Yes, sorry.

Heidi [00:13:26]:
And that's separate from the manufacturing pricing. I was like, no. You didn't, like, get all this and then approve the project?

Amanda Cabania [00:13:33]:
No, sorry. Yeah.

Heidi [00:13:34]:
Okay. Just making sure. Okay, cool.

Amanda Cabania [00:13:37]:
Sorry.

Heidi [00:13:38]:
No, no, no, you're good. So, so you mentioned a lot of your other work has also come from LinkedIn. Can you just talk a little bit about some of that as well? Is it just people finding you in the search results or what yeah, I've had people.

Amanda Cabania [00:13:54]:
I have maybe like three within the past year that I started freelancing after taking the fast courses. I've had maybe three or four people contact me. We've had discovery calls, but. And they all small businesses that are just starting out. So she was actually the only one that came back to me. After the discovery call, I tried. After the fast program, I tried cold pitching, and that was never really successful for me. But when I started, you know, gaining interest on LinkedIn, that's when I started trying to polish up my.

Amanda Cabania [00:14:33]:
My profile. Yeah. So. And I have one other client that, that found me on LinkedIn that I. So I have two clients. She's my biggest one, and then my smaller one is. She basically just wants me to do tech packs for her, but she's a. She's a returning client, so.

Heidi [00:14:50]:
Oh, great.

Amanda Cabania [00:14:50]:
She. Yeah, so it's nice to know that she likes you. It just keeps coming back to me. But I've done tech packs for her last season, and she came back for her new collection coming up to do six tech packs for her. So that was really great.

Heidi [00:15:05]:
Awesome. Yeah.

Amanda Cabania [00:15:06]:
So right now juggling the two.

Heidi [00:15:08]:
Yeah, good for you. Good for you. So what's your background? Where did you get started in fashion initially? I mean, it sounds like you have a pretty good network and connections and stuff.

Amanda Cabania [00:15:18]:
Yeah, I. Well, I graduated from FIDM, and then after graduating, I. I worked Forever 21 and Splendid Littles, and those were the two biggest corporations that I. That I worked for before I started moving into the community. And when you, you know, I, I went to one of your, One of your seminars that you, that you had, and when you talk about how toxic the industry can be, I thought directly of my experience with the bigger corporations. And. And when I started working for small businesses, it was just more. It was more for me because the toxicity of the bigger corporations was not.

Amanda Cabania [00:16:07]:
So I definitely resonated with that. When you said it can be toxic.

Heidi [00:16:12]:
Yeah. Yeah. So you, when did you graduate fidm? Like, how long did you work in the industry before you decided to go out into freelancing?

Amanda Cabania [00:16:20]:
Gosh, I think I graduated in 2008.

Heidi [00:16:24]:
Okay. So.

Amanda Cabania [00:16:25]:
Yeah, it was a while ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Heidi [00:16:29]:
And other than the toxicity of the large corporations and you wanting to move to smaller businesses, what was like, the push to go freelancing? I know you mentioned your mom as well.

Amanda Cabania [00:16:42]:
Yes, I'm a mom. And when I had my first, it was. It was really hard to get back into work just because we didn't really have Too much help. It was basically like me and my husband and I went through this time where I was just sort of. I'm sure most first time moms know where mentally you're just not really there. It's, it's a hard transition. So I didn't work for a while and I found, after, after a year I found a really great small business in Vegas where I was living at the time when I had my first. And she was also a mom.

Amanda Cabania [00:17:25]:
She had a women owned business. She was just starting her swimwear line and we met by. I don't know how, but I applied to be her part time office assistant and it turned out that she was looking for someone to help in design. And so it worked out that we sort of built her swimwear line together and just watched it grow. I worked for her part time for five years and she was probably the most understanding boss that I, that I could probably ask for. Yeah. Especially while I was transitioning, you know, and you know, from, to, from to be a mom. And so I worked with her for five years and I had two more kids in between those five years with her.

Amanda Cabania [00:18:10]:
And she just, you know, she just understood. She was very. If I needed time off because the kids were sick, she would give it to me. And yeah, so it was nice. And so we moved to Austin now because my husband got a job here. We wondered whether or not I would find a full time job or if I would be able to find a full time job. I applied to different places. I've had interviews, interviews.

Amanda Cabania [00:18:36]:
But they always ask, you know, why there was a gap, you know, and I think, I think because there was a gap in my career, they don't really like it. I don't know what it is, but I never get hired.

Heidi [00:18:52]:
So I, so that's say like I paused to like start my family and be a mom and they just, just don't seem to really care.

Amanda Cabania [00:19:02]:
Yeah, I, I mean I blame it on that, but I don't know, I really don't know what the, what the issue is. But yeah, and I found you through a coworker, an ex coworker and we shared an office together and she said, oh, you should listen to this girl, Heidi. She talks about freelancing all the time. And we were both, you know, she was actually starting an Etsy shop and she was already, you know, taking off with that and she said that, you know, there's this girl, Heidi, she does podcasts about freelancing and she was actually. She's a fast graduate as well, she took your classes.

Heidi [00:19:38]:
Who is.

Amanda Cabania [00:19:39]:
She was. Her name is Mercedes Johnson.

Heidi [00:19:42]:
Okay. I don't know her. I mean, I don't. We have over a thousand students in fast. I don't know everybody, but I know some.

Amanda Cabania [00:19:48]:
Yeah. So she took your fast classes and she introduced me to you and then I ended up when. When I moved here and I found, you know, like no one was really hiring me. I took your courses and. Yeah, and now I'm here, so. Landed a 9k client. Couldn't thank you enough.

Heidi [00:20:07]:
Oh, good for you. You. How does it feel to be like building a business and juggling your own thing while also still getting to be a mom and not having to, you know, be in the 40 hour or 60 hour a week toxic offices or at someone else's beck and call? How's that feel?

Amanda Cabania [00:20:27]:
It feels great. I can still be a mom and not have to worry about, you know, whether or not I need to be in a meeting or I need to be in. And she's Lizzy, her name is Lizzie. She's great because we hold meetings in the house and she's met the kids. She's okay with the kids being around, you know, she, she's great with kids. So we can, we can freely have those meetings and, you know, not to worry about how, I guess quiet it is or, you know, so that's.

Heidi [00:21:00]:
So. Yeah.

Amanda Cabania [00:21:01]:
Yeah.

Heidi [00:21:02]:
That's amazing. I'm curious to know a little bit more about your LinkedIn. I'm. You don't post.

Amanda Cabania [00:21:10]:
No, I don't.

Heidi [00:21:12]:
I just, I was like. Other than like setting up your profile, you. You're not, you're not even very, you don't even really comment.

Amanda Cabania [00:21:22]:
Yeah, I'm very shy. I don't really, I mean, I repost sometimes, but not very much. Yeah, marketing myself is, is hard. It's hard to do. And my husband always says, you don't market yourself because you don't believe in yourself. And I'm like, I'm trying to believe in myself, but it's still hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but, yeah.

Amanda Cabania [00:21:46]:
So, yeah, I, I'm really trying to build a website, build a company, I guess a freelancing Instagram, but it's taking some time, but I'm trying to get there.

Heidi [00:21:59]:
Yeah, I mean, one step at a time. But I love that just setting up your profile is allowing these people to find you. I mean, you said the two clients you're working with have come from there and you kind of just set it and you know, not like, I know some people who are Very active and engaged. But that's amazing that. That you set it up and. And people are coming in that way.

Amanda Cabania [00:22:26]:
Yeah. And I think it helps that all these. All these people who have contacted me, they're local, and I think they look specifically for Austin freelancers.

Heidi [00:22:36]:
Interesting.

Amanda Cabania [00:22:38]:
So I think that's what. That's what's gaining interest.

Heidi [00:22:41]:
Yeah. Okay. You guys do have, like, a decent little fashion community there.

Amanda Cabania [00:22:46]:
Yeah, there's. There's a lot of outdoor activewear here. I know there's yeti just comes at the top of my head, but they're more hard goods. Yeah. And there's a lot of little small businesses as well. Yeah.

Heidi [00:23:05]:
Yeah. Good for you. Good for you. Have you been getting out into, like, the local community and, like, going to events and stuff? I don't know how I feel like there's a bunch of stuff going on there. I mean, I know you guys have south by Southwest, which I know is more like music, but there's, I feel like some fashion crossover. I went to that one time many years ago. Have you been getting out into the local community at all?

Amanda Cabania [00:23:24]:
I haven't, actually, but I did go to Magic. I just got back yesterday from Magic. I went for 24 hours. Yeah. Left on Sunday and came back last night. How was. Was great. I was just on the sourcing side because I wanted to, you know, talk to some trim manufacturers, some fab fabric vendors, just to broaden, you know, my community or my, you know, my resources.

Amanda Cabania [00:23:51]:
So. Yeah, And I was. I thought it was very successful. I. I was able to talk to some of the fabric representatives that I've been speaking to online, so I got to meet with them. And just to put a face to who you're talking to through email is great, because then you remember them. So that was one of my goals for me too, so.

Heidi [00:24:13]:
Yeah.

Amanda Cabania [00:24:14]:
Yeah.

Heidi [00:24:15]:
Very cool. Very cool. So did you do that independently on your own or did you kind of do that for your client? Okay.

Amanda Cabania [00:24:22]:
Yes, I did it. I did it on my own. Yeah. Okay.

Heidi [00:24:24]:
Okay.

Amanda Cabania [00:24:25]:
Just to. Just to network and pass out business cards and I'm available if you need me. Yeah.

Heidi [00:24:33]:
That's great.

Amanda Cabania [00:24:35]:
I find that I'm more. I know this is why online is so different for me, but I'm more of a one on one, face to face sort of person. When I meet someone, it just sort of comes naturally, I guess. But online, just typing it out can sometimes be a little nerve wracking for me. Yeah.

Heidi [00:24:56]:
Yeah. Well, I kind of was, like, getting that feeling, and so that's Why? I was asking if you had like, ventured out into Austin into like some of the. I don't know, I just feel like they have a lot of like indie, small, Small indie fashion scene going on there.

Amanda Cabania [00:25:12]:
I should really look into that. Actually. We've, we've only been here a year. Here you go. So we're, we're, I mean, still new, but not so much. But now that I've kick started my freelancing career, I think, I think I'll definitely be looking into more of those networking events here.

Heidi [00:25:29]:
Yeah.

Amanda Cabania [00:25:29]:
Yeah.

Heidi [00:25:29]:
That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, we've talked about so many things that have gone great and are going really well and I realize that within any freelance business or any endeavor in life, it's not all rainbows and roses. So I'd love for you to share, like, what are some of the things that you're still struggling with and you know, to make this conversation relatable for people who are like, I haven't gotten my first $9,000 client. Like, you know, it's still not all perfect. So what are some of those things that are still feeling challenging to you or still still not going to as well as you want?

Amanda Cabania [00:26:05]:
Well, definitely, you know, like I said, the contacts that have contacted me through LinkedIn, I've really only gained two out of, I think five. So I think just, just trying to gain those clients and just trying to believe in yourself. I think just don't lose confidence. That's probably one of the biggest issues that I have. Just keep going, you know, because it does, I mean, it does pay off. Now I have this 9k client that although it took almost 10 months to finally land that contract, but I think if you just keep going and not lose hope, not lose confidence, it'll happen for you because. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Heidi [00:26:55]:
That perseverance and that persistence is so important. And I think most people give up way too soon.

Amanda Cabania [00:27:01]:
Yeah, I almost did when the cold pitching didn't work.

Heidi [00:27:05]:
Yeah, it's funny, I even like, and we won't get, we won't open this can of worms. But I do talk to people who are like, I'm not getting any replies from my cold pitches. They're like, I sent 10 last week and I haven't gotten a client. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, I'm not saying that that's you, but like, right. I think we have to look at like, what is an appropriate volume, what is an appropriate amount of time, et cetera. And then compounded with what do the pitches look like, what are we actually sending out so many nuances into that. And I do think cold pitching has gotten harder over the years as the market has become saturated with AI and all inboxes are a very different space now than they were five, 10 years ago.

Heidi [00:27:50]:
It still can be impactful and it can still work, but you have to approach it in a much more nuanced and intentional and strategic way. So I hear you. That one can definitely be an uphill. But I'm so excited that these leads are coming in from LinkedIn. And yeah, I would selfishly, I'll say I would love to see you maybe double down on that and, like, imagine the traction you could get by being a little bit more like platform. And if you're already getting these leads coming in without doing too much there, I feel like you could, you could easily double that with some more intention and strategy. And I know that that's a challenge, right? Getting out of your own head and making that move, but I know you can do it so well. Thank you so much for chatting with me, Amanda.

Heidi [00:28:44]:
I'd love to end the interview with a question I ask everybody at the end, which is what is one thing people never ask you about being a freelance fashion designer that you wish they would?

Amanda Cabania [00:28:56]:
They never ask me. Okay. I would probably say, I guess, to learn more about why you chose that path. Like, why freelancing? Because I think I never get asked that question. But I think it's nice to know, you know, the journey of it. I guess because every person has their own journey to why freelancing? When you, when you graduate or when you just start, you know, a career in the industry, everyone talks about, you know, working for these large companies and how, you know, great it can be. And so why freelancing, you know, and why is it so great? Because there are so many great things about it and, you know, you just don't. You don't get to express that as much because you don't really get asked that.

Amanda Cabania [00:29:51]:
So I think that's, that's a great question to ask.

Heidi [00:29:55]:
Yeah. Well, good. And I'm glad we were able to touch a little bit on that. And I know, you know, part of that is your kiddos and stuff. How old are your kiddos now?

Amanda Cabania [00:30:03]:
Well, one just turned four last week. And then I have a five year old and I have another. She will turn eight next month. Okay, so four, five and eight. Yeah.

Heidi [00:30:14]:
Okay, gotcha. Well, I have a five year old as well. He's starting kindergarten next week. I don't you're starting kindergarten as well?

Amanda Cabania [00:30:20]:
Yes, he started last week.

Heidi [00:30:22]:
Okay, gotcha. Yeah.

Amanda Cabania [00:30:23]:
Hence why it's so quiet right now.

Heidi [00:30:27]:
There you go. You've got two in school now and.

Amanda Cabania [00:30:29]:
Yes. Yeah, My husband is with. My husband is with the other one, so.

Heidi [00:30:33]:
Okay, gotcha.

Amanda Cabania [00:30:35]:
Yeah.

Heidi [00:30:35]:
Well, thank you so much for taking the time to chat. Where can everybody connect with you and find you online?

Amanda Cabania [00:30:40]:
LinkedIn. LinkedIn.

Heidi [00:30:42]:
Okay. We'll link everybody to your LinkedIn and they can reach out and say hi and check out what you're up to. So thank you so much for chatting. It was lovely to hear your story and.

Amanda Cabania [00:30:52]:
And thanks for having me, Heidi. Yeah, thank you so much.