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You think you put your conscience at peace, huh? You've ruined
my life. You've killed my mother. And you've driven me crazy by your vanity.
All the while I was nailed to this chair. You were fucking that whore,
you ugly son of a bitch. Everything is ready, my darling.
Do not be afraid. Soon we'll
be together again.
This sandwich tastes as dry as hell.
Hello and welcome to. Hello. This is the Doom show. I am Richard.
Folks, just below my seat
is hell. But up in heaven over Skype
is Dirk. Hello, Dirk. Hey. Dan Mandev.
Welcome to the show, sir. Yeah, man, thanks for having me on.
Glad to talk about some clam chowder, baby food.
Oh my God. Some clamato or something.
A smoothie. Like a spinach smoothie gone bad.
Yeah, boy. Folks, we're talking about the Antichrist
from 1974, aka the Tempter,
directed by Alberto DiMartino aethereze
director that I was saying before we started, that should get
more recognition than he deserves. Yeah,
absolutely. Of course you know the director of Puma man.
Okay, I've never seen Puma man, but I have seen
bloodlink, which is a very bizarre giallo with Michael Moriarty.
And the killer's on the phone with Telly Savalas.
Yeah, Telly's on the tellye. You mentioned the man
with the icy eyes, right. Which I.
I do not remember. I know, I've seen it.
It's. It's not good. Uh, ok.
It doesn't have Barbara Boucher in it though, so that's. That's a reason to watch.
See? And also strange shadows was. No strange
shadows in an empty room. Yeah. Yeah. That is
a wild one, ain't it? A blazing Magnum.
Yep. So shadows in an empty room. I have the poster for
that one tucked away. And it was shockingly cheap.
I don't know why this guy had like ten copies of it.
So whatever distributor back in the seventies carried
some of these movies, they would just make a shit ton of these posters.
So here we are in the. You know, in the 20 twenty's. And they're worthless
because either people haven't seen the
movies or they're listing them on eBay badly.
But I also have the tempter poster.
Yeah. For this movie, which is.
Yeah, so the tempter poster at home,
folks, if you haven't seen it before, it's right on the COVID of the.
The beautiful keynote Blu ray.
But it has some very strange text on it that
I just. It's so vague that you end up knowing less about
the movie. Having read the poster it
says, enemy of the faith, foe to
the human race, thief of life,
inventor of all obscenities. Satan, why do you stand
and resist? And it says, the tempter, and then
deliver her from evil. And then it's a very spherical,
kind of MC escher like photograph of a woman
with long hair sitting on a bed. So it's already in the fisheye.
False advertising. Yeah, the fisheye lens. Exactly.
But, yeah, I got that poster for nothing on eBay. It was crazy.
It's killer. It's not the most flashy. It's, you know, it's too.
It's black, white and red. But it's killer, though. I mean,
that's what drew me in to buy the damn thing. So I'm gonna
throw the tv spot for the tempter right here so you guys can hear
a little beautiful sounds of the trailer.
He is the essence of the unholy. His names
are the symbols of fear. Thief of life,
enemy of the faith, foe to the human race.
The tempter. Satan, why do you stand
and resist? She is his.
Deliver her from evil, the tempter.
The other trailer is a typical three minute long,
you know, all dialogue and all the best scenes of the movie packed into.
I'd never play those if I can help it, but I'm gonna read the rather
long vhs box I found on eBay. That's cool.
Yeah. So again, the tempter on
embassy home entertainment. It boasts a hi fi mono
sound set up here. Wow. So here we go. Picture this.
A beautiful young woman becomes devilishly possessed. And after
committing a series of unspeakable acts shown in graphic
detail, of course, a priest is called in to exorcise
some exorcism. Sound familiar? Well,
move over, Linda Blair. Cause there's a new demon on the block.
The successful exorcist formula of girl meets Devil.
Girl meets devil girl gets exorcism is spine
tingling enough. But what makes the tempter even
extra tempting is it's terrifying,
titillating scenes, including an orgy and hell sequence you
have to see to believe. Mel Ferrer, Arthur Kennedy
and italian actress Carla Gravina lend their talents to a
movie that's more than just scary. It's a real scream.
Color 94 minutes.
That is one of the weirdest back of the boxes I've
ever read on this show. I mean, it's enthusiastic. It's kind
of full of shit, right? It's great. Yeah.
Although, you know, I was talking about how, hey, maybe there's not different versions
of this movie as we well, know from watching this kino
Blu ray, it's 112 minutes. This says 94 minutes.
So they definitely chopped some of this talking down,
but we'll get into that when we get into that. So this is written by
some cool dudes along with Alberto Di Martino.
Gianfranco Clarice also wrote Cannibal
Holocaust, or he's one of the writers on Cannibal Holocaust. One of the writers
on don't torture a duckling. So some serious
heavyweight stuff here. He worked with Fulci, some more
like House of clocks. He also worked with
both Diodato and Lamberto Bava,
aka Lambava. Yeah. On Rogero Diodato's
Phantom of Death and Lambava's delirium.
Photos of gioia. Dang. Is that the same guy?
Vincenzo Manino. That was clerici. That was the other dude.
Yeah, Manino. Let's see, Vincenzo Manino.
He worked on New York Ripper. Yeah. Holy shit.
Devilfish. Phantom of Death too. Also on.
Yeah. So, yeah, they were kind of a pair working there.
He helped bring Miami Golem to life, which I'm still waiting
for. A blu ray of Miami Golem I never seen.
Probably Martino's craziest movie. Okay.
It's, it's, it's. It's almost like how, you know how weird Luigi
Katsi gets or Luigi cozy gets. This is as weird
as one of his. It almost feels like a movie he would have done.
But I keep waiting for Vinegar syndrome or
cauldron to, like, pop out Miami Golem on us.
That would be the best, like, American Rick show.
I don't think anything's as zany or as fucking, like,
wild left turn near the end of the movie as American Rickshaw,
which folks. Yeah, you gotta see that shit. You gotta see
it so good. Miami Golem is just. It's just
weird. The whole movie is just weird. And like, you constantly ask
yourself, like, what is this about? Like, what is happening?
And they definitely bring that kind of holy shitness to this movie,
which we're gonna spoil. We're not gonna spoil the entire movie. And there's
things we're gonna tell you about that even if we describe in great detail,
you'll still need to see for yourself,
because this movie, it goes there and it's. It never really
comes back from there. It's wonderful. So some of the folks
in the movie, Hippolyta, she is our main possessee.
She's played by Carla Gravina, who was kind of
a classier actress. Yeah, this was, I think
this is one of her only forays into exploitation.
And I saw that she won best actress at the
Cannes Latera Raza in 1980
and also found out that she was some
kind of political figure. Really? Chamber of
deputies. Ooh. Lower house of the bicameral
italian parliament. I was like, what the.
She had. She had a backup career ready in the waiting. That's amazing.
Yeah. I was just like, what now? So her, she was in comedies too.
So I'm not surprised. Yeah, you can definitely
see that she's had. Yeah, she's had this. This, like, wide ranging
career, much like our pal Alberto de
Martina, where they worked in every genre. Love it.
Familiar face to a bunch of us italian
genre picture lovers. Mel Ferrer. Oh, yeah. Plays her father,
Massimo. Oh. He was in suspicious death of a miner, eaten alive.
Jama girl case, island of the fishman,
aka screamers. And he was in the visitor. Oh, I love the visitor.
Yes. Nightmare city.
Oh, yeah. And one thing I didn't know, though, he was married to
Audrey Hepburn. Now that I didn't know.
That's good. I didn't know that shit either way. And they were both in.
Both of them were in war and peace,
so what the heck? Them in half of Hollywood,
right. Massimo's brother
is played by Arthur Kennedy. He's a bishop in.
In the church, the catholic church. Good old Arthur
Kennedy. Yeah, man. Separating him from
the asshole cop for me.
Yeah. His voice is so distinct and pretty much always
dubs himself when he's over there and in Italy,
slumming it for his later career. Awesome. I didn't know that.
I always figured that was just somebody paid voice actor. That is
how he talks. That is how he talks. I will not repeat the
line that echoes in my head from
let's even corpse his legs. He throws in a nice homophobic
slur into it. Alita Valley from
good old Suspiria is in this.
She plays Irene Oz without a face. Yeah.
Oh, my God. The lady's career is incredible. Eye in the labyrinth
in the devil. Good old fatal frames.
Yeah, she. She's Irene. She's the maid. She's probably known
Hippolyta and her brother their whole lives.
She's very concerned with what's going on, seeing this change.
So she calls in a faith healer. His character's name
is faith Healer. And he's played by Mario Scaccia
from perfume of the lady in black. A bunch of other stuff.
He's always sweaty and kind of weird. I've never not
seen him play a friggin weirdo. Right? Yeah. I didn't have
him down. Oh, yeah. He's in a very funny giallo called
double murder with Marcello Mastriani. That's very fun.
I recommend that one if you can track it down. And then we got
Umberto Orsini, who plays doctor Marcello,
this psychiatrist who's called. Who's called in to help.
I thought he was in more stuff that I recognized. Yeah,
he looks very familiar, but he was in puzzle. That's the big one that
I've seen. Anita Strindberg is in this from, you know, from all
those wonderful Gialli. She plays Greta.
She's Massimo's lover. So she's Hippolyta's
worst nightmare, which is the, you know, secretary turned
lover trying. To be her mama. Oh, man, that just
ain't right. But, man, Anita Strandberg
Strindberg, however you want to say it, she is my favorite of all
the jello goddesses. Dude, she's so good.
She's such a great actress. I mean, she is. She's.
I haven't seen her anything bad. I haven't seen a bad performance from her.
Of course. My favorite jala of all time. Your vice, a lot room.
And only I have the key, which I think that's the cat that's saying
that, by the way. So. Yeah. Translate from cat
speak. Right? Tropical cancer.
Oh, yeah. Almost human. Case of Scorpion's tail,
lizard or woman's skin who saw her die.
Yeah, there's. There's so many more. I'd always think about her retiring
from acting after murder obsession. Oh, murder obsession. Yeah.
She's like, here we go. This will be fun. You know what? I'm never working
again. No, don't go.
One guy I just want to mention real quick is Filippo. Excuse me?
Remo Garone, who plays the brother.
He plays Filippo, Hippolyta's brother.
I really like this kid in this movie, but I'm struggling
to remember what else. I've seen him.
Very familiar. Can't believe I don't got him. Yeah,
he must just look like somebody I'm thinking of. I thought I put
him down. I guess not. Well,
he slipped away. So it opens
up with some very strange sounds over
very stark credits. There's like this demon,
like, sounds like somebody got asthma. On the Blu ray,
it has the tempter credits, which is like, sourced from an old VHS
tape. And seeing those credits on an old
tape, even creepier to me.
Get Satan his inhaler back. But yeah. This is music
by Ennio Marconi and Bruno Nikolai.
Classy. Classy classy. Which is certainly
where this film wanted to be was in the classiness which. Neo Morricone
is known for. You know, everybody knows his
greatest work. Exorcist two.
Oh, man. Why aren't we talking about that? I mean, you know, and it's
so funny, like, after all of the weirdness
that's been going on with the Exorcist franchise
with the new movies that David Gordon Green started
and he's not gonna be finishing, exorcist two is just a crazy
sequel. It's just this wild I need to revisit. Yeah, man.
Well, you got Linda Blair tap dancing. So. So it's so weird.
James Earl Jones, man died. There's. He can
do no wrong. He can do no wrong. So when the movie gets going here
we have a, what I call mild religious excitement.
Dirk, tell me about the. This whole sequence with the very
interesting. Let's call it a ceremony these people are
having here. Yeah. It's like this big. So there's, like,
this parade going down, like in Rome,
I'm guessing, right? Oh, yeah. And there's, like, this huge Madonna
statue. And the statue standing on,
like, a dragon. And then you got, like.
You got these old ladies fall on the floor. People are
spasming out. They're licking the floor. There's people with snakes in
their hands, like snake handlers. So it kind of reminded me, like, when I used
to go to church when I was younger, you know?
Okay, but see, I believed
you immediately. But no, there is some people
like that around here, by the way, some snake handler.
So they're like. They're. They test their faith or whatever with the snakes.
You know, shit like that. But I got that going on. And then
you got hypalita. She is.
You don't know what's going on. She's standing by her father and she's
trying to walk, it looks like.
So all these people are getting healed by coming up to this Madonna statue.
And, like. So she starts to walk toward it, and it's like she's
rejected from the Madonna statue. That's what I get from it.
Anyway, in all this chaos, there's this one woman who.
She's clearly suffering from something. And the
older women force her to touch the.
Mary's stat. The statue of Mary. And she instantly
calms down and gets healed. And so, you know, hey, this will work for
me. But she doesn't make it. So you could see the instant of
her crisis of faith. Like, boom, right there.
Yeah. Instantaneous. And then there's a possessed guy,
which is, uh. I know he's in torso.
Damn it. I know that he's the scarf dealer.
Torso? Yeah, that's, um, freaking, um.
Ernesto Kohler. Yeah, Ernesto Cole. It's a crazy,
crazy scene, man. Crazy scene. It starts it off great.
I mean, you see real people dressed up like Jesus.
You got statues of Jesus. I mean, it's like a big, crazy deal.
And this possessed guy just starts running. He runs away and
starts running up in the damn mountain kind of deal, and then plummets to
his death. But he's wearing, like, this necklace with,
uh, Jesus on the page. A picture of Jesus on
the. It's hard. Explain. Yeah, it's like. It's like a little, um. It's like
a little keepsake. Like a cheap kind of keepsake. Just a generic
painting of Jesus on a string or on a ribbon.
Right? So after Hippolyta's crisis of
faith, she immediately begins acting weird.
She starts hearing voices, and the voices tell
her, hey, don't leave the room just yet. Roll back in your
wheelchair and take a peek. And she sees her father
and Greta about
to kiss, and she's like, oh, shit, I didn't know about this. So she
angrily, you know, goes back. To her room, pissed off at Alita
Valley. Right? Yeah. You've known. You've known.
Yeah.
And she's like, no, it's okay. You just, you know,
I'll help you get undressed. You know, I'll do it myself.
Leave me alone. You know, it's one of those things, like, I wanted to see
more of her before she was possessed. I mean, I didn't want this movie
to be any longer God forbidden or Satan forbid,
but, like, I really wanted, like, her to get
more of a feel for her as not spouting
obscenities and multiple personalities. She has a vision,
so she's putting something away in a drawer. And what
does she find in her drawer, Dirk? Oh, man. She finds this.
Well, she rips her cross off. Cause she's pissed off
at her dad, and then she sees this evil Christ on
this same kind of thing that that possessed guy was wearing.
She gets scared. She throws it in the fire, and it disappears. And it's
like, what the hell just happened? It's. It's an angry Jesus.
He's, like, scowling and big fangs, but he's also
got an angry boner.
Right? So I've always wondered about.
I think I might have been talking about this with Mark. I always wonder about
these exorcist ripoffs as the writers trying
to be like, why are they trying to be so sacrilegious
in these movies? Like, obviously, to show the transformation of
a formerly devout person. But also, I'm like, man,
did you guys just have something to say? Like, were you guys just
mad at the catholic church or something? Because,
yeah, you know, these images are. This is. This is.
This movie is 50 years old now, and it's still shocking.
Like, whoa. I will mention something later when we.
I guess I could mention it now, but with the trivia,
I'm. You. Do you. I did see the. An interview with Alberto
DiMartino. He did admit that he kind
of regrets putting that scene where it's
three frames of that. You know, he said it was three frames,
but I still regret putting it in the film. Wow. Yeah,
there's a few frames in demon witch child. I bet that director regrets
putting in that. He said,
you know, people were pissed off. The italian censors and the church
pretty. Angry with, uh oh, uh oh,
pallantif, you know, feeling this crisis of faith in her life and
this horrific vision she just had. She goes and she talks to the
bishop, who's, you know, an uncle Arthur Kennedy's character,
and he immediately starts talking to,
uh, Massimo at a. At a gathering, some kind of
religious gathering with a lot of other bishops and very official religious
types of folks walking around. But I'm very confused as to
why Mel Ferrer is dressed as Shakespeare in this
scene with the. The whole, like, medieval get
up with the coffee filter neck thing, like.
Right. It's a real, uh. I guess it's like a big time
Rome thing, you know, like the ecclesiastic
church in Rome. It's real formal. Yeah. So he's
a bigwig. Not just, you know, in, you know.
So he's associated with the church along with his brother.
Oh, yeah. It's crazy. We cut to a party games,
some party games where Hippolyta. It's very strange.
Hippolyte has got some psychic powers that I was like,
excuse me. Which is odd. Yeah. So we
have some palm reading stuff like that. It's very interesting how this
is like a throwaway moment that she just.
Oh, I just have powers. No worries. And then you get the
one cheesy guy comes out and he's like, in my opinion,
she's a true psychic. Who let you in
here?
Remind me never to invite that guy again.
Yeah. So this is where we meet Doctor Marcello.
He was trying to sneak in and be introduced
to her in a more organic sense so that she wouldn't know. He's a
psychiatrist. And then he would just, like, spring it on her later or
something. But because of her psychic abilities, whether that she
has real psychic abilities from forever or
she just gained them from this possession, she's like, you're a psychiatrist,
aren't you? And he's like, duh. And it was kind of weird, too. Like,
is that that whole plot point goes nowhere? Yeah, because they
kind of look like they're gonna have be, like a love interest kind of deal.
Those two actors, Carla Gravina and Umberto
Rossini, they have that chemistry. It's absolutely there.
So they could have worked that in, right? I thought it was going there,
but it was just no manipulation, just to do my job.
So he starts hypnotizing
her. He just go in the other room, we see the
horrific accident that put her in the wheelchair. And you noticed the Doberman
Pinscher that runs in front of the car, right?
Yeah, yeah. It's a theme there. So flashback to her childhood,
or dad's driving, making jokes about crashing the car because
mom is scared and, you know, just. Just don't drive like an
idiot. And dad's being an asshole. Like, I'm so glad you pointed out that
Doberman dog runs in the road. Swerve to miss it.
You're supposed to gun it whenever you have your family in the car. You're supposed
to go as fast as you can at anything. I don't have
children, so I don't know how to drive properly.
So they wreck. And it's really depressing and horrific. Mom's dead.
She's screaming, my legs don't work, daddy. My legs don't work. And he pulls her
out of the car, and there's flames everywhere. But then
the doctor's like, let's go back farther than that. Let's. Don't worry
about that trauma. Let's go back to your previous life
trauma. So she. We find out that she's, as you do,
like, standard practice. There's a new theory
that I'm working on. He went from being respectable to quack in
one sentence. God bless him. So we
get this whole previous existence of Hippolyta,
where her ancestor was accused
of being a witch and was burned at the stake.
More about her later. Oh, but I wanted to point out there's a theme that
gets introduced along with the Doberman, the headless frog.
So at the scene of an accident, the other victim was
a frog, got its head ripped off in the, you know, this. This car
accident, I think all of the frog violence is staged in this.
Like, they really went out of their way to make this. This disgusting fake frog.
It's gorgeous. Yeah, it is. Because I was like, that looks almost
rip. So after this previous life trauma, the doctor
seems to really
be helping her. The doctor is convinced that he
could get her walking again. But we still have to go through
one of this movie's biggest moments.
Oh, yeah. Where she's just. Epauleta's just having a little sleeping,
and then her bedroom turns into this magical
dreamscape. Yeah. She's whisked away to
ceremony. Dirk, what is going on in the ceremony?
Yeah, man. She's whisked away to. It looks like a
set of Mario Bobbers, you know, almost.
Yeah. Gothic looking. Yeah, yeah. Mixed with
a. I don't know if you've ever seen Hackson. You know.
Yes. Going on.
But there's definitely, like, this is a satanic
ritual marriage that's happening, from what I
understand. And. Wow. Yeah, man.
So they're in the woods. There's a bunch of naked people doing
dirty things with each other.
There's literally no other way to describe it.
And then. So then it keeps flashing back
from that to her bedroom where she's at. And then she's like.
But she's button in her bed,
masturbating and getting all turned on
and stuff. And then, like, the walls are like,
man, it's beautifully shot. It's insane.
Like, you see, like, the sky. The moment comes,
like, this dude with, like, a crazy pagan,
some kind of mask he's got on.
Rips a damn frog's head off and puts it in her mouth.
It's like, this is my body. Yeah. You know? And then he drips
the blood right beside her, and she's got a.
He's like, and that's my blood. And she starts licking the blood and shit.
So then it puts me in the mind of what we saw earlier with
that old lady licking the floor. Exactly.
Some parallels here. Then he starts getting it on with her,
and then, you know. Am I missing something?
Oh, you're missing the goat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, boy.
Yeah, yeah. They bring the goat in and.
Oh, this is a make or break moment for anybody watching this movie. This is
like, there's a similar moment in black candles by Jose
Ramon Laraz where I tapped out. I was like, no, I'm good.
This is not cool. Yeah. So they bring this goat
in, like, bringing it backwards to her,
lift the tail up, and you see the goats butthole and everything.
And then you see her it flashes
back to her in the present day and she
just starts licking the air and you're like, oh, my God. Oh, no.
So, yeah, you know, big thing that I learned
from a movie, like, Hakson was that you're
supposed to kiss Satan's butt. And that, that's like,
part of, like, your. Your marriage to Satan. You're showing
your devotion to him, right. Apparently the. The goat's
butthole will work as well, I guess.
Yeah. So yeah,
yeah, that happens. And then after that,
then she's miraculously healed.
You know, she is walking. She's walking. And this
is one of my favorite scenes in the movie is she envisions herself
now that she can walk. Like, she's like. Like stretching her
legs and feeling them. Like, wow, these are. This is gonna work. And she
has this vision of just walking down a
road alongside thousands of wildflowers.
And it's this, like, transcendently beautiful moment. I mean,
this thing is gorgeous. Super gaudy.
Richest. Yeah. Settings as well. You know,
we have some. Some tacky decor in the movie. Like, some of the
seventies decor is, like, hilarious. But also they're
in these beautiful villas and mansions and ruins.
So it's very Rome. It's very much Rome.
Opulent looking stuff. Yeah. But this
Joe D'Amato behind the camera, it is right
before he would, like, start directing movies for himself.
Like, this is right around the time where he was doing
stuff like death smiles at murder and not
too far out from beyond the darkness.
And his, like, key works.
But, yeah, I love his cinematography so much in this.
It is only he hadn't found
out how much money he could make shooting pornhood.
Yeah. Porno holic cost. Yeah.
Joe D'Amato, man. He's like, all right, guys, I'm gonna go ahead and
be one of the richest of all of us directors because I'm just gonna shoot
200 pornos later. It's like,
oh, don't do it. But all right, I guess.
None of that bullshit. What's funny, though,
is a lot of his, like, erotic films that aren't hardcore.
They're like couples movies. Like softcore
bordering on hardcore. That was supposed to be like, fun stuff
for everyone to go see together. And he's like, again, that's too much work.
Let's. Yeah, let's get to the fun type stuff.
Boy. Anyway, she goes on the prowl because one
of the things is. Well, one thing I forgot to mention is that it
was intimated that Satan would give her the
power to walk. That Satan or her
ancestor, whoever's you know, talking would give her
the ability to get what she wanted, which was to get laid and
to be able to walk. Not necessarily in that order.
Yeah. And I should have touched on it a little more.
She's completely very strangely
obsessed with her father. Yes. In a sexual way.
Absolutely. It's one of those things where the jealousy of
her father starting over and you know replacing her
mother. Her mom's been gone for at least
a decade. Yeah. At this point she looks
about 40 something and he looks about you know,
60 something. Yeah, exactly. I don't know how old she's supposed to be in
this like it's one of those things where she's either supposed to be like 20
or 30. I have no clue. No idea.
But now that she can walk she goes
out on the prowl. Where does she, where does she
go to get that, that fresh meat? Yeah man, she goes, she wanders
up into this like this cave looking I guess
these people are having a tour. Yeah. Catacombs.
Yeah, the catacombs. And she comes up to
this young, I'm assuming he's probably 1718
something like that. Yep. And she just comes up and starts
rubbing on him kind of on his thing you know.
She wants to run before she can walk. She's going for it and there's
no dialogue in this scene at all and don't need to be.
Her face, her facial expressions, she is like seducing,
I mean he's like he's, he's going anywhere. She's going.
Yep. So then they kind of just wander off
and man it's a strange scene.
It's kind of like doing this weird licking
thing at him and like teasing him kind of shit
you know you. Think he's almost not interested at first because
he's trying to play it so cool so that nobody will notice.
But then as the tour group walks on he's just like
I'm not moving, I'm hanging back for this. Yeah,
yeah. And uh. Yeah. What happens when she gets him
alone though? What is uh, what does he get from this uh,
this? Let's call it a poor decision that he makes.
Oh yeah, yeah. So we, then we see his head start spinning
around and, and then you just
see him laying on the floor with his head is, you know you see his
back and everything but you see his face pointed up like uh.
But yeah it's just so good the way they have it. It's so
morbid and weird. So they clearly,
it is great effect shot where it's, it looks like it might be
somebody else's head duck down like a
person from behind, ducked down and then his head
buried up to his neck, like, so it's this great, great shot.
And. Yeah, and it's all in the dark too. Like, are you, I mean,
it's lit so good because everything flash almost.
And you just see him, you know, like this. She wakes
up along the road, no idea what's happened, no idea
what's going on. A little girl helps her back to her car because her legs
just have stopped working. She ends up back at home,
but she seems to be cured now.
She's happy. It's like a false
happiness here. Like a false recovery from a poison or something.
Like she's. Yeah, yeah. We got, we're now
into the rest of the movie.
This is what I call the dinner scene from hell where,
oh, yeah, you know, Greta's got her spot and her brother's got his spot
and dad's there and the, the psychiatrist
and everything's hunky dory. She's so happy. I feel so marvelous. I feel
as if I was reborn. You'll have to be careful for a
while, however, your legs will have to get used to holding you up again.
Oh, they seem so normal. I'll be able to go running. Ah, that'll be
wonderful to see. And I hope soon, doctor.
Yes, I hope so too.
Well, your cure seems to have given you a huge appetite.
Yes, I'm really hungry. Well, that's a good sign
to the happiness of our dearest hippolyta. But then
they pass out the food. She takes a deli sized
portion of meat that comes around. You know,
the first course is like lunch meats or something. And she takes
a lot and just starts shouting down.
Yeah, she's shoveling shit on her plate.
Everybody's looking at her like, what the hell? You got an appetite
because you got fuel? She's trying to win an eating competition, but she's the
only one in the competition, you know? Oh my God,
it's so good. But she can't eat food. She has to spit it
out immediately. So there's this thing
that'll later be explained about people who are possessed where they're ravenously
hungry, but they cannot stand food. And so it's
like, it's like this attraction repulsion thing.
All hell breaks loose at this dinner. You know, the paintings
are flying everywhere. Oh, man. The effects you were talking about
earlier where she was in bed and the walls disappeared and became the skyd.
Right. This is for the, for the
lack of my understanding of how special effects work.
They were trying to use video to
create special effects for film.
So what they would do is they would use old
school techniques of,
like, fading out certain colors,
filter, and then bringing up an effect shot. But what
they were doing was they're using video to accomplish this.
So once they applied those video effects, then they would just
refilm. That's why you can always tell when those effects
shots are coming, because the film looks like it's a second generation.
It looks like a copy. And so they were doing that where all the paintings
are going every which way. But then. Oh, man, it looks great,
though. Yeah, but then the painting. Exactly.
Then the painting would get really huge, like, overly large,
and the person's, like, screaming and reacting to it. The satin,
see through curtains or whatever, or, like, flight going
with the wind. And Alita Valley's face, though,
is. It's so great in this scene,
man. She is terrified out of her mind,
man. I mean, it's just, I don't imagine those people now,
like, those actors now trying to put up with green screen and shit.
It must have been even crazier back then. Like,
so what am I experiencing? Okay. I think I can portray that.
All I see, it's like when. When Mario Bava would do effects shots,
you know, and they'd be like, Mario, what are we doing in this warehouse?
Oh, come here. Look through this. Look through the camera. And they'd look through the
camera and they see the effect shot that he'd painted,
and you'd see the. The matte painting. They go, oh, okay, I get it.
We're in this freaking alien, uh, landscape. That's pretty cool.
Yeah, I love it. I love it. I was going
to mention something, though. Uh,
like, what do you think? Because there's a lot of blues
and a lot of reds in here. Yeah. Uh,
D. Martino was saying that the reds represented
not all the time, but a lot of time in the film, that the reds
were representing, like, possessed and oppressed
and. And the blues were representing liberation
and freedom. Yeah. So I was like,
yeah, so, like, I dig it. A lot of
the. The decor in their house is in.
The house is red. And of course, the. All the stuff with the church is
red, red. So, yeah, there's that. There's that repression. But then
when she has her dream, the. The paintings
all around her bed depict, like, a pastoral
scene with birds and everything. And when she slips into that
dream, it, of course, disappears in that blue, blue sky,
so, yeah, that totally works. Totally works.
Awesome. So they decide to Irene
Elita Valley's character, she witnesses a
little scene between polite and her brother
Filippo. He's very concerned about her and
she's flirting with him very badly.
And the film kind of like, does a
back and forth with this, where we assume,
I assume nothing happened between them, that it was
getting a little too close for comfort and she was definitely flirting
with her brother. But then I assume nothing happened. And then later when
she's possessed, like, I'm pregnant with my brother's baby.
Lol. Yeah. She's like. She's like, you're gonna have
a hell of a grandchild in that demonic voice.
But then she. But then later, she's like,
the demons like her.
I don't know if it's Satan talking or her ancestor talking
to, I impregnated her. Ha ha ha. I'm the devil. Good stuff.
So. And of course, her brother denies that he had
sex with his sister. Like, dad, I did not do that. Oh, no.
So Elida Valley calls in help. The faith
healer is. He is not prepared for
the real. Shit because, you know, you would think she would go to
the church first. Right, right, exactly. But no, it's surprising that she
goes to this faith healer guy who reminds me of the
kind of magical stuff in don't torture a duckling
with the folk magic, the voodoo kind of. Yeah.
And this guy comes in and he gets schooled. Oh, boy.
He gets schooled. Oh, man. It's so funny, though. Oh, God, it's so gross.
Her powers are hilarious. She's making her hand
disappear and then reappear and choke him. And then I. But at first,
you know, like, he comes in with that damn doll that. That he
made, and he's sticking it with pins. So that was kind of like making me
think of the Exorcist when Reagan's getting the shots.
Oh, yeah. I know. It's kind of. I know it's kind of weird to think
that that way, but I'm weird, so, you know, that's cool. I mean,
she reacts to it like, it's like it's frickin acupuncture or
the bad kind of. Acupuncture. Yeah. And then
she laughs in his face. The worst part of this is
she. She pukes on her hands and then
forces him to lick it and, oh, man. I'm like,
dude, get out of there. You are so outclassed right now. This demon
just beat your ass. Go home. It looks like some three day old guacamole.
It's so funny. Like, this family was
at the restaurant I was at today, and they had their. They brought their own
smoothie for their drink, and it looked just like that.
Oh, shit. Oh, no. A demon. Spit that up. Don't do it.
I'm sure it was delicious. I'm sure it was very healthy. Oh,
yeah. Bring your own, everybody.
Why haven't you recognized the lord supreme?
He who can pulverize your bones and dry up the blood in your veins.
He who has allowed you to work your stupid arts of magic and
how you try to use that magic against. Me because of all this
insanity and all this shit. She's talking about Greta, saying horrific
things to Greta in German to kind of embarrass her,
saying, you know, like, lewd things about her and her father.
Dad decides to dump Greta. What happens
with this scene? Oh, yeah. So daddy, no, he breaks
up with Greta, and. And then he goes in there to tell her.
He's like, you know, this is gonna. He's thinking that this is gonna solve all
the problems, you know, with his crazy daughter or whatever.
And she. She just hitting the balls,
and then she hits him right in the face. And then she's
like, you ugly son of a bitch, you know? And I was like,
holy. She's making furniture fly at him and.
All this stuff, his ties, choking them and shit in the air.
Yeah, that didn't work out too good. But she's like, stay on the floor.
And then.
Yeah, so then she gets tied up, you know,
and she says. That's when
she says, uh, flippa. Flippa fucked her
and all this. Yep. You know? What a. What a grandchild.
It's like, so, man,
that. Damn, I gotta say, like, the outside of
that room, though, is so awesome.
In that hallway. The sculptures are weird.
Yeah. Marble status statues. They're all, like,
peering, looking like. Yeah. Sticking their head out kind of.
I. And, uh, the floor is, like, white and blue
marble checkered with red walls. I could not
live with those statues. No, they're. They're. They're all,
like, leaning out and peering in one way or the other down the hallway.
I'm like, no, this is insane, because they're life sized busts
of, like, probably supposed to be ancestors of theirs.
I don't know. Probably it ain't right. And they're
very well to do. Yes. This is a very rich family.
Is this the same scene, though, like.
Kind of mixed up with some of. It with Arthur Kennedy, the priest?
Yeah, yeah, they call him in. They call in Arthur Kennedy. Thank you. They call
him the bishop. And because he's like, okay, let me see if
I can evaluate her. See, she really needs an exorcism,
which is hilarious. You know, at like 80 minutes into the movie,
we're still like, hmm, should we do this? And after him
getting his ass beat by Apollo and
very sweaty. It's very hot in there. They're doing the fill the flame effects where
the cameras, it feels like everything's gonna melt.
And it's making it very uncomfortable in there. And she's spouting
off all this sacrilege. I think it's my favorite
line in the movie. She says to him, to her uncle, she says,
why don't you dip your limp bird in the holy water and bless me?
She calls him out in the most
brutal way for being a virgin who went into the church.
I assume that's what she's saying about his bird not
flying. And it's, oh, man, it's just so dirty.
Thank you for catching that. That's dirty. Dirty.
So after he leaves, he's like, okay, I will tell them
we can have the exorcism. Give it a couple days.
And they'll be here. And they're like, a couple of days?
And he leaves. And then all of a sudden, the very same
instant, almost, is when the character who. I could not
remember who he was, his name is George Kaluris,
and he plays father Rutner. He has been this
priest who's been in the background the whole movie,
a monk, excuse me. Who has been wandering around taking alms
for the poor, presumably for this collection box.
So he's always been there watching this. So he seems to have,
like, known that some shit was going down. Do you feel like
it's kind of like a nod to the exorcist where father
cares, don't pay that homeless guy, you know? I don't know.
Maybe. Oh, yeah, I could see that.
Because nobody's paying him. Hardly. I mean, some people do,
but some people aren't, you know? Right, yeah, because the
psychiatrist gives him a couple of coins.
But when he begs at the car,
that's when Massimo and Apollo to just look away and ignore him.
Good call. I like that. So he shows up to do the real
exorcism, and it is a full tilt.
You think you've seen the crazy shit. Now it's going to get really
crazy. Battle royale for her soul.
And they throw everything into this sequence.
We got a fake snake. We got her setting him
on fire. And he needs Irene's
help. So Alita Vali is there as his like, second to,
like, repeat the different parts of the prayers for the exorcism.
So they're this power team. It starts to work,
and as soon as it starts to work, the demon possessing
Hippolyta's like, yo, I got a bounce, literally off
of a high. I'm gonna jump off the freaking coliseum.
Yeah. Splits, right? She. Yeah, she did. She turns into two
characters or not two characters. She turns into her herself,
free from the bound, the binding of the wheelchair.
Then that epilepsy disappears.
And then she's just standing there. It's like, later. And she runs out
of the door. Love it. She just yeets right out of there.
I love her. The face sores when he's throwing the holy water
on her. Oh, it's so good. When he's throwing the holy water on her.
Did you get the Baba vibes from Black Sunday?
I did not think of that, but now I'll never unsee that. Yeah,
because they're perfectly symmetrical
around her face. Like the freaking mask of Satan. Yeah.
Nice. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah, man. I didn't
notice it before, and I've seen this movie probably, you know, six, seven times.
Yeah. Yeah, me too. Me too.
This was the first time in a long time, but I've seen this quite
a few times. I love this one. So, anyway, spoiler alert.
So she runs out of the house with her
brother and her dad in pursuit. Father Mitner and Irene
keeps saying prayers, keep saying prayers while they're chasing her out in the rain.
And she's going to jump off the coliseum and kill herself. Right?
She fights off her brother, and he falls down a long flight of stairs,
which is more interest stuff. Yeah, it's good.
It's a good start. Oh, God, it looks dangerous.
So before she can jump and kill herself, dad's like,
I got you. And he grabs her and flings her against the
crucifix that's hanging or that's built at the top
of the coliseum there. And he just presses her into it.
And the demons like, all right, you guys got me. I'm done.
And it's like flashing back to that Madonna statue and.
And it's like the dad is like, so do you get the
vibe that the dad is trying to say that the father saved
her? You know, like the power of love.
Yeah. Could be family. Yeah. Hey, exactly. He's doing
what the priest couldn't do. Or the.
Or the priest is letting it happen. You know, Father Mitner's letting it happen because
he knows that it's not his place. To savor that only
this man that she loves, perhaps a little more than she should for a father.
And you did notice that Father Mitner is reincarnated as
well? Oh, yeah. He was one of the accusers. Oh, no, he was.
Yeah, he was the monk that. That came to her when she.
In her past life. And she seemed to
repent at the last second, but didn't work out so good. Yeah. She grabs
a cross from him. Yeah. Oh, man, I'm glad you brought that back.
Got all about that Apollita and her father,
and I believe Filippo kind of embrace while the demon
gives up. And they keep doing this, like, waves and waves of
special effects. And she's looking more
and more like herself. All the sores are going
away, and her giant hair is starting to shrink back
to normal sized hair. Father Mitner and Irene,
they're constantly praying, right? Yeah. But I kind of got the vibe
that maybe they're blessing the rain. I don't know. Maybe that's a stretch. No,
that. That's the thing that happened, is that when she was possessed,
she was making it rain in. In the room.
And Father Mitnir's like, all right,
I'll bless this fucking rain. And he blesses it, and she's like, well,
okay, now I'm being bathed in holy water. Thanks, Dick.
I thought that was a good trick. I'll remember that next time I'm battling
Satan. Yeah, she's saved. Her brother
doesn't die from his horrific fall. They all three of them kind of
limp off into the sunrise.
He's bloody as hell. Looking like. Looking almost like Christ, in a way,
laying there. Yeah. I'm sure there was religious imagery
from art packed into this movie and that scene.
That's good. It's a good call. It's like when the
Pieta at the end of murder obsession where Anita Strindberg
is holding her son and very
famous pose of Mary holding Jesus. And it's like.
Exactly. Yeah. Which would make more sense in this movie than that
movie. Right. But, hey, I'll take it. I'll take
it. Stop those church bells. Oh, yeah, the church
bells drive Apollo to crazy. It's so good. But now they're ringing
and then ringing the happy ending, which I was so not
expecting. I thought she wasn't gonna make it. You know, that surprised
me even the first time I saw it. It still kind of surprises me that,
you know, after all of this horrific shit. Except for that poor tourist
guy, of course, the faith healer.
He's never gonna recover from his trauma,
but yeah, that's it. That's the plot of Antichrist.
And I do have a couple trivia things. Please bring it.
I would love it. DiMartino was saying that he
admitted that the success of the exorcist was the whole reason this was made.
Yes. He comes out the gate right away and says
that. So I respect the shit out of that. You know, it takes
place in Rome, though, is what he was saying. So it's more in
depth with the cultural thing, with the pope and
ecclesiastic hierarchy and all this. And,
uh, there's. There's a non religious aspect to the
devil was born out of sexual frustration,
so. And he also claims. So he
said, a lot of people say that's an orgy scene. Right,
right. He was. He's pretty adamant about it. He's like, that's not
an orgy ritual from the demonic tradition.
It's a demonic marriage. So it's
like, what the. Okay, okay. And it's not supposed to
be funny either. No, no, there is not.
There is no humor in this movie. You might find it, like,
accidentally, maybe. I'm twisting or something.
This is some con. This is some confrontational art,
and how you react to it is totally up to you. So, like. Right.
If you were a super religious person, you know, who probably wasn't
supposed to be going to see this movie back in the seventies, you'd be
super shocked. I feel like someone who's very. Who has a lot of faith
would probably be upset by what they see in this movie. I think
it'd be hard not to be upset by what's in this. But it's like,
it's so insane. Like all of
the things that they threw at you in this movie to represent the evil and
the trials and tribulations that Apollo two
goes through, it's gonna make you react to it
either with uncomfortable laughter or I just.
Laughter. Yeah, right.
Also, Alberto DiMartino was the assistant director for
Sergio Leone. Oh, really? For a
long time. Nice. The Doberman, which we
mentioned earlier, is kind of like you see
a couple years later, like in the omen, the hounds of hell kind of
thing. So it causes the crash. And then you also see it later with
Massimo and Greta when somebody's got
the Doberman on a leash, you know, and it's trying to attack them.
So it's right when things start going wrong with Hippolyta
and, yeah, they're. They're harassed by that person's dog in the.
In the. In the stairwell. It's like, thank you for bringing that up.
D. Martino said that the exorcism that was
done in the film was by the rules of the 13 chapters
of the roman ritual. And an ecclesiastic
counselor advised, advised him on how to do it.
Nice. The trivia I have is what
we talked about, the similarities to
the Exorcist. This did get unsuccessfully
sued. They did not stop this movie.
Unlike Abby, the blaxploitation one,
which is still not seen a proper release at the time it was recorded recording.
And I think beyond the door got in trouble too.
But yeah, this one, I think, just, just managed to get away from.
It's different enough, I think, even with the callbacks
that you pointed out that are similar to the
original, it's just such a different movie. They're pretty subtle.
I mean, the way it's done. Alberto Di Martino
would later direct the Chosen 1977,
which is a ripoff of the Omen. So he'd come back.
The chosen is also called Holocaust 2000.
That's the Kirk Douglas one, which I need
to revisit. I wasn't very impressed with it the first time, but it's.
It's also weird as shit. It's very strange. Okay. I haven't seen
the chosen, so. Yeah. Carla Gravina,
she was interviewed at the time, around the time this came out of, and she
said that it was very stressful making this movie for her.
She felt a type of possession and
she was stricken with intense cold,
dizziness. She had severe headaches, lack of
appetite. Her doctor was like, you're just exhausted.
But she feels it was like a psychic influence from the
film, from the material that kind of got to her.
Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay.
She's great. She really is. She is. She's wonderful.
I wish I would have seen more, you know. I wish you
would have done more. Stuff that we like exactly in our genre.
Yeah, I know. I've seen her in a thriller, but it was a very.
It wasn't like a lurid thriller like we like. You know,
she's got a familiar face. Totally. She really. She duck.
She looks like. She looks like she could be.
I don't know if you know, the singer Rita Pavone.
Rita Pavone was a. She did a lot of pop songs in the sixties.
Italian. Okay. She had the same haircut
and they both are, you know, the same similar coloration with lots of
freckles and everything. Producer. The last thing I have about this movie is
the producer is Edmonto Amati. This guy.
His producing credits are amazing. We got cannibal apocalypse.
Oh, hell. And we've got the aforementioned strange
shadows in an empty room. He also produced
four of the apocalypse. Oh.
Let sleeping corpses lie. Damn it.
Some bangers. Yep. Crimes of the black cat.
Just amazing. Amazing. So, yeah, he worked with fulci
quite a bit. Both a lizard, a woman's skin, and,
uh. Don't torture duckling. Oh, man. Yeah,
that's. That's a hell of a note. I know.
So. So, Dirk, we've. We've run the gauntlet.
We've run from Satan all evening tonight.
How do you feel about the Antichrists? Oh, Mandy,
it's. It's a great one, man. It's the best. I used
to always think, like, this is the best exorcist ripoff.
Yeah. Ever made. Yeah. Which it is. But it also
does its own thing, too. So I see it different,
like, almost every time I watch it. Like, I see different shit going on,
man. Same, same. This might
have been the first exorcist ripoff I ever saw from Italy.
I think I saw this well before I saw beyond the door. This was easier
to get for a while before that. And it's
always struck me how classy this one is. It is
the cast. The budget's really big.
I'm assuming it paid off. I'm assuming they made
their money back on this. It's as subtle
as a slap in the face if the person's holding
a bag of hammers when they slap you.
This is so over the top, especially the
1112 minutes cut. I'd be curious to see the old vhs cut.
See it at 94 minutes, because this just. Even at the long length,
it never gets boring. It just pummels you.
And even the talky parts, they're trying to figure out what's
going on. They're well written. It's not very filler
or anything, but this is certainly epic.
I love beyond the door. Kind of
love the eerie midnight horror show, which is another.
I like beyond the door. Yeah. But this one
is stronger. It's more thoughtful. Yeah, yeah.
Beyond the door is, like, extreme, um,
the extreme imagery. That's why you read about
people. What's the scariest horror movie you ever saw? And they're like,
well, I didn't really see it, but there was this tv trailer
for beyond the door that I remember that is like
that early trailer for the Exorcist that scared people real bad.
Yeah. With its imagery, with the flashing lights and everything. I love
when people promoting horror movies make that little
teaser that just fucks you up. Yeah. And don't reveal it.
So it makes you curious and terrified. And if you're of a certain
age, you can never sleep again. Oh, yeah, man. I remember
those. I remember when the Exorcist was premiering on local tv
in Georgia when I was a kid and they were playing just the trailer
for the tv premiere of the Exorcist.
And I couldn't sleep. They kept playing at every
commercial break while we were watching, like, cheers or
mork and Mindy or some shit. And they're like,
the Exorcist. And I got my dad. I was crying. My dad was
like, dad, I can't go to sleep. I can't stop seeing that little girl in
my head. And he's like, you can sleep in the frickin
guest room while I watch tv. So I'm laying in the guest
room and what comes on tv that I can hear
from the guest room? The trailer again, for the Exorcist.
Yeah. That was a long night. I seen the Exorcist when
I was six years old. What? And.
Yeah. What?
I didn't see that till I was like 13 or 14. I wasn't ready.
I mean, I saw alien when I was like five, but I. Yeah,
they rented tapes. You know, the first. The first
two films I remember from back then is the Exorcist
and Texas Chainsaw Mass. Wow.
And your parents didn't give a fuck?
No. That's awesome. My mother, she,
she go. She went to bed early. I could rent anything
I wanted and.
No, my parents did. My member, my parents watching
alien. I remember seeing alien way too young on tv.
I remember watching the Shining when I was really
young. Yeah, that fucked me
up because that was relatable. Except the kid character in it. So I was really
scared of. Yeah, the Shining is my favorite film and it's.
I seen it really young. I didn't see it when I saw the Exorcist,
though. I've seen it later, but it always creeped me out.
It still does. Of course, do. There's.
There. It's, like, hard to look at. It's like the Exorcist. I still kind
of have trouble looking at promotional art for
Linda Blair's makeup. It still gets to me. Right.
Just an image. It's just, I've seen the making of.
I've seen her, like, out of character in that makeup. Just like suffering
at the hands of the freaking special effects crew, you know? I know the
story. I know everything. But I'm still. I still can't look in those eyes.
It's like, oh, my God, lady. Because I remember going
to bed after watching the Exorcist, and what I kept thinking about
was those eyes in the dark when she.
When the father Marin shows up, you know? And that's
what. I couldn't sleep, man. I couldn't sleep.
Before I let you escape, I always ask my
co hosts to share a film that's recently seen and
loved. It can be an old favorite, or it can
be a first time watch. What do you got? This is from
1978. It's a first time watch.
Okay. And it is closed circuit.
Oh, yes. Man, I had
no idea. Like, I've had this movie for. From Severin
when it. When they let it, released it. I've had it for a couple months,
and we finally got on it, and I was just, like, blown away.
Yep. By this damn movie. If you love cinema,
you're a cinephile. I feel. I highly recommend this movie.
It is so ambiguous. There's, like, this regular customer.
He comes into a theater. Okay? So there's a western showing, but there's a
register. He comes in, and the final duel scene,
he gets shot and killed. So you get the kind of the
demons vibe in a way. And the police are brought
in. They question everyone. Nobody can leave the theater
for days. And, man, it's so
damn good. It really is, man. I don't. I'm not gonna spoil
shit. I can't do it. But you got Flavio Bucci in it
from nitrain murders, and he's also
from Suspiria. He's the blind guy.
Yes. You got Wayne Burger in it, you know, $5 from
August Moon, my dear killer, Spider, labyrinth.
You got a Rory Clement. One flew over
the cuckoo's nest. Whoa. Yeah. French actress.
She's. And she was in apocalypse now. She's great in
this film. Yeah, man. The images are more powerful
than reality. That's what it says in the film.
The never. You'll never figure it out to the end. I don't agree.
It's made for tv, but it's a brilliant
movie, man. It really is. I can't stress it enough. I had
it sitting here in a pile. I was like, damn, why don't I watch this
sooner? And it's like, you know, it's a ten out of ten for
me. It really is. I haven't seen that since I
covered it in the ngiala meltdown. I can't remember if I covered that in
one or two, but I remember being just total like.
Like you just totally blown away. I completely forgot to sever and
put that out. That. Speaking of me sleeping on that release. Yeah, man.
Totally forgot that even exists. It's reasonable price. Oh, I'll go
back for it. Hell, yeah. That's freaking great. A great transfer
too, man. And great special features. Has a good chunk
of special features. It's got a interview with the director, which is
which? I didn't even say. Giuliano Montado. It only
premiered at one film festival in Berlin,
Germany, but. So they buried it. Yeah.
Right. That's like what they did to frickin Lisa. Thank you.
Exactly. And which, you know, I think I've told you before, Lisa. And the
devil's my favorite baba. Yeah, me too.
Right? Me too. Yeah. Well, that's a. That's a classy pick.
I love it. Good job. I had to add to bring it up, man.
It was. It's just so damn good,
man. On the much, the much maybe not
as weird or the same level of weird by accident,
I brought a little movie to this discussion called Rabid Grannies.
Okay, awesome. From. From 1988,
this was a belgian horror film, a splatter film.
When I bought it, I had no idea it was belgian. I thought it was
an american film. This was an old Troma release that
was kicking around for a long time. And Troma, even Troma apparently
had released the cut version. So the vinegar syndrome
disc that came out pretty recently is the uncut
version of this film. The director is named Emmanuelle
Kirvin. And this is, to date, the only thing
they ever directed. Okay. He's an actor,
and this was just, like his passion project. He wrote and
directed this movie. I saw the trailer. It looks insane.
It's totally wacko. It's.
It's got some atmosphere, but it wastes almost
no time getting to the insanity. And the
cause of all of this craziness is.
Is not what you'd expect. And it doesn't matter what
caused it because it never goes back to it. It just. Some shit starts,
and then you're on this wild ride of splatter.
Oh, hell yeah. And, yeah,
it's unique. It's so funny. I bought it twice with
trade in credit over at Viper video here in Tampa.
I got the dvd of Rabid Granny's. It was very reasonably
priced. And then I don't know what made me look it up.
But then I found out that it wasn't the even Troma
had the cut version. I'm like, well, I might as well get the Blu ray.
So I picked up a used copy of the Blu ray and
watched that, and I was just totally in love with it. I'm like, this is
nuts. I think the only thing I could say about it is
that it gets a little samey. Where there's
a lot of. There's a lot of characters. There's a big body count.
And I think maybe it could be a little shorter
or they could have mixed it up so they're not always hunting people in the
house. So much. Other than that, I really strongly enjoyed
it. It's probably in my. Probably going to be on my favorites of the year
list. Oh, shit. For first time watches. Okay, awesome. I need to.
I know I wanted to grab that vinegar syndrome. I know
that they put it out. Hopefully they still got it.
I'm sure. I'm waiting for it to drop.
Same. Same way. Yeah, wait for the sale. Because it's just.
It's very silly. It's very slight and silly. I need to
go back and check out the extras and see what the people who made it,
if they're on that disk, I want to say it's got hysteria
continues. Does a. Yeah, let's see what's.
Oh, yeah. So they talk to the producer,
they talked to the editor. And yes, I did
watch a little of the Lloyd Kaufman. It's a much more subdued
Lloyd Kaufman than you would have gotten on the old Troma DVD.
Awesome. And yes, there's a. There's a feature length
documentary on the history of flemish horror.
Holy shit. I gotta get that disc back in and watch the documentary.
It's quite special. Quite special. Oh, yeah.
Well, dude, I appreciate you hanging out. I have so much fun
hanging out with you and Darren over at subjective perspective collective.
Yeah, man. I would like you to tell the people how to find you.
How do you find all your good stuff? Okay. You can find me
on Instagram. I don't do a lot on Instagram. I'm not a
social media like guy, really, I guess
you'd say. But if you ever need to reach out or something,
it's subjective perspective collective on Instagram.
And then on the youtubes, you know,
where it's subjective perspective collective. So hell yeah.
You can find me on the dead pit too, on the Eurocolt
show with Darren and Captain B plan and
the evil Dead chick.
See, I love those names. Those are great, man. You know, I've been doing
this a couple years now. It's fun. It's a lot of fun doing all this.
I had a good time, you know, Darren,
and you invited me on subjective perspective. And we just
talked forever on Spanish, Gialli.
Yeah, man. Awesome. I appreciate. What was the other one we did?
Yeah, we did another one we're trying to remember now.
Holy shit. It was something fun. I got the sometimers.
You know, I think it was Giallo related.
Top five. Supernatural.
Supernatural. Yeah.
Yes. Thank you. I knew one of our brains would kick it out, but no,
folks, I highly recommend checking out dirk
show. It's just fun to hear.
And, you know, you and Darren have a great rapport. Everybody you have on the
show, you always have a good rapport with. I appreciate it, man.
You talk new releases, you talk unboxing stuff. You just
film fans, film collectors that love the shit that
we love, right? Talking about it. And I'm all for it.
I'm pushing your stuff, too, man. I really am. Thank you.
I mean, I'm gonna dig into these books soon.
I haven't had time lately, but I just.
I just picked up both your books. Jalo meltdown one
and two. So I'm a dig
into it pretty soon. See, I like to waste your time
in video, audio, and print. Yeah, I would.
I would call it a waste to. Steal your time,
so. Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Yeah, man, this is, uh. I think we might be fans of
this stuff. Yeah, man. I think so. I think so.
A little bit. A little bit. All right, folks, take care, and I'll talk
to you later. Bye. Have a good one.
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