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The Conscious Collaboration Podcast brings together entrepreneurs, changemakers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people who embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to aligned mind, body, and business.
The conscious collaboration brings together entrepreneurs, change makers and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people that embody the idea of aligned mind, body and business. Each week, we share, discuss and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to an aligned mind, body, and business.
Lisa:Hi, guys. It's Lisa.
Emily:And I'm Emily, and we are the conscious collaboration podcast among other things.
Lisa:What other things are we?
Emily:What other things. How much time you got? So in our pre chat, we kind of, so the beginning is gonna be, like, a little bit of a podcast in a podcast, or we're talking about a podcast, on a podcast, kind of, inception, I guess. But I was listening to slash watching another favorite podcast of mine. Shout out to Sean Stephenson and the Model Health Show.
Emily:And he had a guest on called doctor James Doty, d o t y. And, I had I had not heard of him before I listened to this episode, but it caught my eye immediately, because I see, you know, neurosurgeon and manifestation in the same sentence, which is pretty unusual. And I mean, I I feel like I can say that to some degree. Neurosurgeons in particular is a group of people that, I worked very closely with for, many years when I was nursing in the hospital, in the neuro intensive care unit. And they just, as as many quirks as they do have, I couldn't imagine any of those people that I knew, you know, having this conversation about manifestation.
Emily:And it's funny. I I I have heard about it in in more of a science based conversation, funny enough, from a tarot reader on YouTube, not actually a scientist. Right? Oh, we haven't talked about
Lisa:Steve in so long.
Intro:Yeah. Yeah.
Emily:Steve's Steve's always there. Right? Steve's always there. He's he's very much a wise, guru to figure to me. But, he, you know, often, will talk about concepts like manifestation and karma, and bring them back to a more, idea that's grounded in in science and the study of energy and dark matter, which is not something I'm great at talking about, but I I Yeah.
Emily:I'm good at listening to it.
Lisa:I I like what he says, like, relating it back to his work. He talks about manifestation more as and I had to write it down, but neurological transformation. Yeah.
Emily:It's changing your right. Yeah.
Lisa:Targeting your attention, which is essentially intentional manifestation, but said in a neuroscientific way.
Emily:Yeah. Well, and it's another thing that Steve points out that Einstein, would talk about putting yourself in the frequency of that which you are trying to achieve or manifest. And that, I mean, that is the same thing. So, anyway, this doctor James Doty, who's has a pretty cool story, should definitely check out that episode of the Model Health Show. Also shout out to the Tulane in New Orleans because that is where doctor James Doty went.
Emily:And, he
Lisa:was very well schooled. So Tushy Lane was mentioned, and I think he later went back and held some some some bit of an elevated position there in the faculty, or an honored position, and then Stanford
Emily:Mhmm.
Lisa:As well. So there's, you know, this is a very intelligent, well studied
Emily:And it's definitely, just something I love to see is, you know, a more forward thinking application of science and western medicine, you know, to principles of energy that might seem hippie doo da woo woo up in the stars. And in certain fashions of talking about it, it very much is. But, like, you know, he he talks about one of the first things, like, we we are made of energy. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's not a conspiracy theory.
Emily:It's not a hippie woo woo thing. You can see on different forms of medical imaging, you know, energy fields, surrounding our body in particular coming from the heart and the brain, as sort of the highest, frequencies, I guess, or wavelengths. I'm not I'm not sure how how exactly you quantify that. But, but yeah. So he the the episode was about manifestation, and that's kind of a big piece of what he talks about is is being able to to change your brain, in order to manifest things into your life that you want.
Emily:But he got into another level of the conversation, which is kind of where we wanted to steer our conversation today. And it was regarding your intentions behind manifestation. And that you can successfully, you know, attract things into your life that you want, by coming from just a place of, of want, a more selfish type of place, if you will. But he said that, you know, he really found that things just started, you know, it was like, I'm I'm just saying this. He didn't say this, but it's like pointing at things, you know, pointing at things and and you kinda get what you want.
Emily:Once he shifted his intentions behind his manifestations to that of service rather than self-service, you know, and of course, still being fairly compensated and and, you know, obviously doing what you're doing for a living, but really being able to see better results in what you're trying to manifest when you go back to the drawing board as far as or at least, you know, stay in a practice of of self evaluation as far as the, intentions and the service intentions behind your manifestations are. And it's something I've I have to remind myself, from time to time anyway. Whenever I feel like, you know, things are a bit scattered or, you know, maybe I'm not attracting as many clients as I'd like at a given time, like, kinda have to first assess, like, okay. Where are we now and how can I get this back to a place of like, I'm I'm prioritizing serving people? The people who are already paying me, the people who I would like to pay me.
Emily:How can I provide them value? How can I be of service?
Lisa:Yeah. And I think it's, you know, recognizing, and he talks about it a lot too. We're we're we're human, we are driven by our ego a lot of the times, and he had to learn the hard way. You know, you know, James Doty had to learn the hard way, and in that, having all the success in the world, all the money in the world that you could possibly ever desire to manifest, is not necessarily sustainable without that element of heart centered service, at the center at, you know, baked into it, it it just we talk about it a lot. It's like those those tower moments that we have where everything comes crashing down.
Lisa:We talk a lot about foundation and what things are built upon. Success and all of these riches and desires, they're not able to be fully, enjoyed or sustainable, to the same degree than if you're doing your work from a place of how am I, as you said, serving others in this instance or even even in, in the instance where he lost 1,000,000 upon 1,000,000 of dollars. There's probably 1,000,000,000 because he referenced 1,000,000 being such a tiny number, and having absolutely nothing and being 3,000,000 in debt, I think was the number, and coming across the stocks that were accidentally held, and available to him and he gave the okay to go ahead and sign them away rather than putting them back in his pocket, but giving them, you know, where he intended that to go. He was able to rebuild back all that wealth and more coming from that place of, I'll give more than I could possibly give even when I have nothing in this moment. But, you know, this is just like any business owner or or visionary or change maker and thought leader, there's the brains there and the intelligence and the ability to create things and to manifest things, sometimes very easily, but it's it doesn't mean the same when you're when you don't have that built that structure built under it to keep it,
Emily:to keep it It's a sense of purpose versus not having one. And when you, you know, in terms of fulfillment, sense of purpose is way more fulfilling than any sort of material resource could could ever be on its own.
Lisa:Mhmm.
Emily:And if you, you know, manage to find both, then that, you know, is is is maybe where you can really find that feeling of fulfillment.
Lisa:Yeah. It's that and in tandem, it's that service acts of service and then gratitude together.
Emily:Mhmm.
Lisa:So I love that in this context, he talked about a manifestation and achieving all that you desire and and realizing that you have it and continuing in that operating in that energy is you know really and he referenced growing up in in poverty. So his perspective on life was a very small box of where he thought he could ever go. But his work and what he's experienced in his life is allowing people to think much larger than their frame of reference could ever imagine. And that is attainable to get to that place and still be very service oriented in your actions. And I like that he referenced too.
Lisa:It's not just like a a magic wand while I did this, so I should have this. It's okay. Here's where I desire to go, bigger than I've ever experienced, but and doing it from a place of of service and gratitude, but doing the work. So, you know, it's not it's it's showing up in the energy, like you said, but doing the work as well too. So it's not just magic.
Emily:Yeah. I mean and I I consider that part of showing up in the energy. Right? If you wanna be a, if if you wanna be a millionaire, you need to do the things that millionaires do. Mhmm.
Emily:And that's part of it. That's part of putting yourself in into the energy. And then, you know, I think a lot of what what he was talking about too is changing your brain so that you believe it, and then your brain puts together the necessary, you know, steps to create
Lisa:it. So knowing both James Doty and also Steve that, you know, from the tarot card reader, do you see a lot of similarities in particular subjects that you've heard Steve say that James has backed officially with with science?
Emily:No. Not not necessarily. Not yet? No. Aside from specifically manifestation, Steve Steve talks about all kinds.
Emily:And change your brain. There's nobody quite like Steve. Yes. I just, you know, can appreciate where they're coming from in terms of of backing these things with, with science.
Lisa:Yeah. Well, there is there has been a lot of talk about meditation, even in Feng Shui because we use a lot of times the words art and science and how we put together the context of what our work is in Feng Shui. But nothing is truly globally accepted until there's that white paper work behind it where there's data and research. But I do think, and I have heard through Grapevine, there's a big community, in California that are putting lots of money into researching, biohackers and, things that we can only call pseudoscience at this time. But I think it's only a matter, you know, of years before we start to see some larger significant research come back, to put some white papers behind some of what
Emily:Yeah. Well and and, I mean, this is something that, my my beloved Mindwhump guys talk about all the time as being, science backed, but not science bound. So, you know, it's good to know what's out there, what's going on, but not to be so married to it that and, I mean, this was a concept we kinda would take into nursing as well. Like, it was sort of like, yes, look at the numbers, look at the data, but also prioritize what you see right in front of you, the human being. You know what I mean?
Emily:Like, that's that's far more important, than, you know, on paper, essentially. And and a lot of science is like that. Right? And it's also ever changing. And and we cannot be so arrogant as to think and we do this, but we should not be so arrogant as to think that even when we have a bunch of studies on something that we've got it all figured out.
Emily:We don't, we never do. There was always a space to evolve our, our understanding of something. And especially when you're talking about human beings, you know, you're always going to have variations from the norm. And, so being, being science backed, but not science bound, I think is very important. And it's also important to look at things like feng shui and practices that have been used for 1000 of years.
Emily:I actually don't know that about feng shui, but I, I think it's been around for, has it been around for 1000?
Lisa:100 of years? Yes. 34,000.
Emily:Yeah. So, you know, if you're looking at things like that, feng shui, Ayurvedic medicine, Chinese medicine, you know, these things that have been, okay, you know, if you have 1 or 2 anecdotes about something, no, that's not real solid evidence. But if you have anecdotal evidence for 1000 of years, people have been using, you know, x y z to to treat or to work with another x y z, then that, I mean, holds a lot of weight that maybe doesn't shouldn't require as much science, formal science to, for us to feel like we can utilize it or feel like it's real. You know what I mean? And and we've also gotta consider, like, what what gets funded.
Lisa:Right. It's not
Emily:like, you know, pharmaceutical companies are not rushing to to, fund, you know, studies about feng shui and how it could help things with their products.
Lisa:Maybe there could be a feng shui pill.
Emily:So right. I mean, look. If they could figure it out
Lisa:they would put money into it. No. It's just,
Emily:you know, a lot of things that people should consider when when deciding whether a a philosophy or a a a science is a science? Or is it an art? Or is it, like, do we really need to be so rigid about labeling it? And can we just utilize the things from it that have been working for people for 1000 of years in conjunction with what we learn day after day, year after year, century after century in our explorations of science.
Lisa:Yeah. I mean, I like how he's planning a science with a lot of the wives' tales that were passed down to him by the lady that he met in the shop, that's in his first book. You know, where he's talking about coincidences. A lot of a lot of our conversation is is is it incidents that these things are happening or synchronicities he mentioned in this, but a lot of doors opened up for him that were inexplainable, experiences that multiple, you know, I mean, it's not quantifiable because there wasn't a science study around it, but multiple people witnessed, like, something occur with him involved that couldn't be explained.
Emily:Well and I think we have to accept also that some things aren't going to be quantifiable. We're not meant to know and to understand every single thing. And that's not a bad thing. That's a beautiful thing about life if you ask me. You know?
Emily:The constant quest for understanding, but accepting that the human brain is not, like, the end all be all of understanding life and the world and the universe.
Lisa:Yeah. I think it's more just interesting, to be able to have those experiences coming from his perspective, aligns a lot with experiences that we've discussed with some of our guests, that are very knowledgeable in their areas. I think that you're right. It's more valuable to live I I think every human's quest is to live life as simply and as happily as they can, with the most clarity that they can have. If it involves using some things that can't be explained by science, but are backed only by wives' tales and passed down in in secret.
Lisa:You know, like, a lady in the shop shared with him about she didn't even know manifestation was a thing, but shared with him about the mindset techniques, the mindfulness, and and the meditation, or or like with Feng Shui or like with any anything else. If those tools are known to work and and, in fact, at one point, kept secret and only used by people that were very wealthy, there's gotta be some truth to it. Mhmm. So I think it was really exciting to hear that. I'm so glad that you shared it with me and shared that talk with some students and some friends just to get their feedback on it.
Lisa:But it's really you know, I think it's it's something that, you know, made me feel more hopeful about my day and reckon, you know, it also made me realize a lot of positive patterns in my life. Like, even even walking today in between my Zoom calls, I was thinking, gosh, how lucky am I to be able to walk to the shoreline? And then I reflected back and realized I grew up 3 hours away from the beach. And when I was little, I said, one day I'm gonna live at the beach. Well, you know, I manifested that thinking there was no possibility of me making it from the woods to the beach and living there.
Lisa:But then same same with, you know, having a Feng Shui career started with, you know, 15 years ago, having a British Pinterest board that said Feng Shui, career on it. And I had no, you know, even inkling that I would be able to manifestation. But to that point, it made me listening to that made me recognize and appreciate, you know, hearing his wonderful manifestation that I was able to recognize, I also was able to
Emily:all the things that have already been
Lisa:But we also
Emily:tend to get caught up in what we don't have yet or where we're not what we haven't achieved yet. And even if it is, you know, from a service, backed intention, that is more of a defeating mindset versus if you, you know, okay, look back. Remember we had the episode a while back about looking back at the vines, that had already grown, and it's kinda like that. Like, really acknowledging how far you've come and what you've already been able to manifest, you know, in in whatever time period you're looking at. And it's pretty it's pretty amazing, sometimes.
Emily:And it and it makes it easier to bring it back to the present and remind yourself that you're just in the middle of manifesting the next big thing. Just because it feels like, you know, you're not where you wanna be yet. You're just in the middle of the next thing that and and where you are now is not where you were a year ago, and 2 years ago, and 6 years ago.
Lisa:Isn't that amazing?
Emily:It is.
Lisa:Yeah. Anyway, I hope that, you know, I I'm not gonna drop the link in it because I think people could Google and find the talk on it. And his book is called Mind Magic. I have not read it, but I I probably will get the notes on it. Yeah.
Emily:Well, we can definitely share the episode in our, free and private Facebook group.
Lisa:Yes. Yeah. That's a good idea because I think everybody in there would be excited. I would love to hear if they have their own takeaway or their own frame of reference that relates to James Doty's, you know, and have that understanding and be able to apply more focus towards service in their own career path or lives over their headed.
Emily:Yes. It's like we can do, like, a book club for a podcast episode.
Lisa:Yeah. It's an easy one. It's short. So, yeah. What was it, like 40 minutes?
Emily:Yeah. Maybe an hour. By the way, if you're not in that group, it's called the Conscious Collaboration Collective. Little tongue twister for you.
Lisa:Yes. Oh, you said it so well though.
Emily:I had to slow it down on purpose.
Lisa:So everybody can come find us there. Make sure you answer the questions so we can make sure you're a real person and accept you in. And, it is closed and private, so you it's open conversation about any of these topics, and we encourage you to share as well too. So we hope to see you there, and come find us on Instagram and all the other channels as well. And thanks for being here
Emily:Mhmm.
Lisa:For listening. It's a good conversation.
Emily:Oh, yeah. Let's get to manifesting y'all. I'm already In service. Yeah. Manifesting in service.
Lisa:That's right. It's already happening. Sure. And you're welcome. Alright.
Emily:Well, until next time. Till next time. We'll talk to y'all in 5.
Lisa:Talk to
Emily:you in 5.
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