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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hulhaus. And I have a very special guest with me today. His documentary, Plandemic, sent shock waves around the world and was seen by over a billion people. Now there's a Plandemic two, which set a world record with 2,000,000 viewers turning into global premiere.
Speaker 1:And the Plandemic series has earned its place as the most seen and censored independent film series in history. Mickey Willis has gone behind the scenes to undercover the agenda behind COVID nineteen and examine the roles of folks like doctor Fauci and Bill Gates and organizations like the CDC, NIH, WHO, along with Big Tech. And now his focus is the attack on our children. He's an author, a father, an independent investigative filmmaker, and I'm so honored to welcome him to our show today. Welcome, Mickey Willis.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for being with us today. Sorry for a little text snag, but, you know, as you know, the show must go on.
Speaker 2:It certainly must. Good to see you, Seth.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much. So before we jump in, Mickey, I I gotta clear something up. Whenever I look up Plandemic, all the mainstream media, the fact checkers were saying it's this giant conspiracy theory, even saying it's, you know, far right extremist material. But I've read your book, and that doesn't really describe you. So why don't you give us a little bit of your background and what led you into what you're doing now?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, thank you for doing what very few people do. And that is actually a little research and digging deeper on your own, because as hopefully the majority of us have learned by now that anytime the mainstream media is pushing and repeating a narrative, it's typically not true. And it's what they want people to believe. And there's a reason behind that. It's a way to get people to look away from anything that might counter the chosen narrative.
Speaker 2:And you're right. There's nothing in my past that would validate their accusations of me being far right or even a conspiracy theorist when the truth of the matter is I've been incredibly allergic to conspiracy theories my whole life, and I would love to tell people out there who continue to push them, please stop. And and, you know, really think strategically because even if if a wild conspiracy theory might come true later, we have to become better at the way we communicate information to the world and understand that there's a speaking that we're listening, listening, I'm sorry, that we're speaking into. And there are some things that people aren't ready to hear. And when we jump to conclusion and start to carry forth a lot of absurd ideologies, what it ultimately does is makes it hard for people like me because then the press uses them to conflate and put us into that same pile.
Speaker 2:It's effective, you know, because as you may have seen when John Oliver, the late night comedian, quote unquote, because I don't find him that funny, did his whole little takedown, again, quote unquote, of Plandemic. He started with the moon landing, flat earth, and then it was clandemic. So that's how they do it. They they set everyone up with this, you know, a narrative, and then they conflate it by putting something into that same basket, and it makes it look even worse than than it real than it or makes it look bad when it really ultimately is something that's authentic. So thank you for doing your work in that term.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely. I I I think it's look. And the way I look at things now is that this is an information war. And the the more we get into our interview and if anyone that has seen your documentaries, it's you see it, it it is a real war. And I think that the roles that we can play as storytellers and these people that question things is really it's just really, really important.
Speaker 1:And what you mentioned about John Oliver is interesting because that's the experience I've seen too that they've they're not they're not amateurs at this. They the mainstream media, big tech, you know, they know how to use all kinds of manipulation tactics and techniques of even association. You know, they they keep saying pandemic and tying it to, you know, JFK JFK is still alive. He's coming back or this or all these other conspiracies that they're gonna tie those things to. So, well, thank you.
Speaker 1:So with what with what led you to this? What what was your story that walked up to you realizing that you need to make this film?
Speaker 2:Well, in short, thirty years ago, my brother was killed by AZT, which was a very deadly AIDS medication that was prescribed to the world by Anthony Fauci. And thirty four days later, my mom died of bad cancer treatments. And so those things kind of stick with you. But without the ability of tech, the technology that we have today of the Internet and all the ways that we can research that kind of information, you know, it was something that I wasn't able to do thirty years ago. And so I just kind of walked away from it and started my life over again and and just really wanted to put that behind me.
Speaker 2:But then when I met Judy Mikovits, which was probably a year and a half before the pandemic was announced, the COVID pandemic was announced, she brought up the name Anthony Fauci and that he was in charge of the AIDS epidemic. I thought, wow, I've heard of that name before. And then I said, is he like small, very small man? And she said, yeah. I said, I remember my brother's community talking about this little man with a Napoleon complex that was killing people and they couldn't believe that he was still allowed to be in his position.
Speaker 2:Are you telling me that he's still in his position forty years later? She said, Oh yeah. And he's, you know, he's still the head of the NIH and controlling most of the world's public health policies. And it blew my mind. And then a year and a half later, pandemic is announced and I see him reemerge and there he is doing the same thing that he did back in the eighties, which is using celebrity influence and coercing doctors to peddle his false propaganda and hiding medications that actually can save lives so that he can push forward, on, know, push forward patented and untested drugs that do harm.
Speaker 2:This is the man's exact MO through Ebola, AIDS, swine flu, bird flu, all the different epidemics and pandemics and outbreaks that this man is overseeing. There's always horrific stories that are exactly in line with what's happening right now.
Speaker 1:And in your research, do you think do those relate to what's happening now? In some way, was were they practice runs or tests, or were those things that were getting the system and getting just the knowledge and even the general public ready for what we see happening now?
Speaker 2:It's all a practice run. And also, if anything emerges organically, as a wise person once said, never let a good crisis go to waste. And so if something does emerge by accident, perhaps, then they will leverage that to forward their in game agenda, which in short is total control over all of humanity.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Well and we're gonna get into the endgame stuff in a little bit here. And because that's well, I think it's an important topic to to just discuss where is this heading. Now, I recently had I recently watched your the second, you know, pandemic indoctrination. The first one I watched, you know, you know, soon after it was released.
Speaker 1:It was it had as you're very well aware, it went very viral. I had friends and family all sharing it. The second one I recently watched within the last month, indoctrination. And I watched it with my family. They were blown away by it.
Speaker 1:But you know, what the what I really took away from that documentary was just the overall plan that this was part of. I think that when you look at it in isolation, you see things, it's like, well, there's that small thing there that leads to this and okay, that maybe you can squash that conspiracy. But what you did is you painted this picture along with David Martin's narrative of something that has been in the works for a very long time. Now, in the process of filming and crafting that story and listening, what was it like to see that unfold before you just to see the just the behemoth that this thing is?
Speaker 2:Well, was shocking to to see it spreading around the world. It was unexpected. I would love to say that that was our plan. And of course, anything we create is with the intention and desire that it becomes viral because you want, you know, people to see it. But, you know, because of the situation, because the world was in lockdown, it's one of the unintended consequences of that protocol is that I think that they assumed that locking people in our homes, locking us all in our homes would force us to watch the mainstream media and to further buy into the big lie.
Speaker 2:But what happened for most people, the vast majority of the people, is they tuned out the mainstream media and they jumped on their computers and started sharing information. And so that was really incredible to see so many people, including family members that I couldn't even show a link to just days before that were suddenly doing their deep research. And so this situation has birthed a generation of citizen journalists. And the outcome of that we will see in the very near future is a good thing Because now we have people understanding that they can't trust the mainstream narrative and that they need to look deep and do their own research. And so as we all know, anyone who's aware of what's really going on, we're all involved in telegram apps and different ways of sharing information.
Speaker 2:And they're just flooded daily with the latest absurdity, the latest draconian measures and protocols, what's happening in Australia. Globally, everyone's become aware of what's happening around the world. And I will say that it's one of the, it's the only time I've ever seen this in my lifetime that people are starting to now communicate with people on the other side of the world. And the citizens are the ones that are correcting this incredibly dishonest narrative that is destructive and designed to be so, and that has nothing to do with public health or safety. It has everything to do with keeping people scared enough so that that part of our critical thinking capacity shuts down, and then we are left in a place of dependency where we will then receive the leadership of another in the form of a politician who will make promises like it's always happened, promise is aimed at making our lives better and they never do.
Speaker 2:And we're awake to that now. And that's a really great milestone that we've crossed as a human organism. And it's worthy of celebration.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a really good point actually. And I'm seeing that too. I mean, even with myself before November of last year before the election, I was watching the COVID narrative unfold. But it was all these triggers, you know, together that said, Look, I gotta step out there and do something. And and here we are.
Speaker 1:So there's one clip that I wanna show, and I have a few clips I set aside, you know, from the pandemic indoctrination that I really wanna share with people watching. And one of the clips is when you showed the side by side of event two zero one versus the real life. So I remember when I had read the event two zero one documentation, you know, know, shortly into the pandemic, it was being shared around. It was like, this is mind boggling. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But how you presented that information, That was the one part that know that my family, they were just like, wait, this real? Was that really a simulation? Like they couldn't believe it. So let me go ahead and pull that up. And let's show that clip to our viewers.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Event two zero
Speaker 4:one. Behalf of our partners in the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Speaker 2:Event two zero one took place five months before COVID nineteen was declared a pandemic. The participants of the event are some of the same people that are now deeply involved in the real pandemic and profiting from it as well. Event two zero one was a multi camera live event that was broadcast fully via the Internet. An event of this complexity and magnitude would take months to write, prep, and produce, placing the conception date at least one year prior to the actual pandemic.
Speaker 3:There is no question that there will be a surprise outbreak.
Speaker 2:Anthony Fauci knew as early as February that we would see an outbreak before the end of twenty twenty. Even Bill Gates, a man with no medical training, knew it was coming.
Speaker 3:If we start now, we can be ready for the next epidemic. Every single thing that you have seen play out in front of your eyes, all of them laid out in their tabletop exercise, which by the fact checkers have said, has nothing to do with the coronavirus outbreak. Just happenstance. This is that wonderful universe of improbabilities where events just co emerge and then nature conveniently backs itself into our architecture. That's that's the scenario we're supposed to accept.
Speaker 3:Brilliant.
Speaker 4:Some countries have banned travel from the worst affected areas.
Speaker 2:The president has made a decision to spend all travel to The United Kingdom and Ireland.
Speaker 4:Deaths and misinformation circulating over the Internet.
Speaker 3:Across the world, misinformation about the virus is being shared online.
Speaker 4:A significant demand for n 95 masks and gloves are on the rise. The demand
Speaker 3:for n 95 masks to prevent the deadly airborne virus has such We could eventually have 52,000,000 treatment courses per year, but it will take many months to get there. We're still many months out from having something that we didn't really deploy to the public.
Speaker 4:And sixty five percent of those polled are eager to take the vaccine even if it's experimental.
Speaker 3:The new poll finds that forty nine percent of Americans say they would get a COVID nineteen vaccine should an effective one be discovered.
Speaker 2:I'm curious. Who wrote the event two zero one script? The visionaries of the event knew at least one year in advance what was needed. Why didn't they take care of those things? Consider
Speaker 1:I mean, it's it's hard to watch that and not at least ask yourself, was this was this planned? Are there ulterior motives behind this? And what was the process of creating that? What did that look like? What was that the feeling of doing that?
Speaker 2:Well, know, event two zero one is is just one of a dozen or more, scenarios and table tabletop exercises and, manifestos that have been written that literally spell it out. There's a lot of theory around why these people that are behind this agenda need to speak these things out publicly. And I don't typically delve into those kind of theories, but it is a curious subject and something that we should ask ourselves because we have literature dating back to the 60s where they literally, there's a group called, just one example, Club of Rome, Kissinger and Bill Gates and all of these globalists belong to. And they spell it out within their doctrine that one of the things they'll be using in the coming future is the the scare tactic of environmental crisis that they will use to then justify the domination of humanity and and the stripping away of our civil liberties. And and that that's what it takes to get people to actually listen and to comply.
Speaker 2:And so these exist in so many ways, we feature about four of them in Plandemic two just to show people that this is a plan. There were a lot of people when it first came out that said, even my dear friend, very intelligent, Del Bigtree, who runs the show The High Wire, when I first did his show, he said, really commend you for the filmmaking. He goes, the only thing that I question at all is whether it's planned or not. I just did Del's show yesterday, an hour special, and he no longer questions that. Now we're in the conversation of this is absolutely without a doubt, totally planned.
Speaker 2:And so a lot of people have really awakened to that, that this has been in the works for a long time and it's been unfolding invisibly. So this is the invisible energy, invisible energy and invisible enemy that is behind this because it's really this ideological and subliminal psychological warfare that was activated decades ago has infiltrated all areas of power within The United States. And this is the one thing that a lot of people have a really difficult time embracing until they actually understand how it's happened and how it's happened is really simple and that's through money. And so if you ask somebody, like I said, a metaphor the other day to a friend who had this question, they said, I'm with you. I get that there's something very devious, very dark that's unfolding here, but I just still can't grapple with the idea that all these people are participating in this.
Speaker 2:How do you get the World Health Organization and the FDA and all these major organizations to go along with this? And there's various ways, but one of the ways is you pay for their support. You pay them, you get them to a place of being dependent. If you understand, just pick one of these people, Bill Gates. If you understand the millions and billions of dollars that he's invested into every fact checker, every media company, every drug manufacturer.
Speaker 2:And the metaphor that I use with my friend, I said, just walk yourself through this. You got to think like a criminal for a moment. If you were going to rob a bank, would you just walk in with a gun and say, give me all your money, or would you stake it out? Would you go through and look at it and find out when that sack of money leaves the bank and what the regular schedule is? Would you look around at the security cameras?
Speaker 2:Would you perhaps even hire somebody to get a job there to get the inside information? I mean, you're really a smooth criminal like these people are, you would take that route instead of just the desperate person, the desperate citizen who just runs in out of desperation to pay their medical bills or their rent, just rushing with a gun and says, give me your money. And they always get caught or killed. But the sophisticated criminal, they strategize really, really wisely. And if you just understand that that's how it works, then you look America, the bank that is America.
Speaker 2:And think about if you were going to do something that would, you're going to go rob America, what would you do? You would look at all the different hurdles that you might come across. You would look at the outliers. You would look at the other nations who may not participate. You'd look at the control centers and you'd say, what does it take to actually control the WHO?
Speaker 2:Well, I'll tell you what it controls. Exactly what Bill Gates did. And that is he ushered in a man named Tedros Gabriezes, who was one of the leaders of a terrorist organization. Yeah. Communist terrorist organization.
Speaker 2:Communist terrorist organization that killed and tortured people. And he's the first person to lead the WHO that's not a medical doctor. And so you go, how in the world with all of the incredible bright minds that innovate the world of medicine, why this man? The people protested, know, tons of people within Ethiopia and beyond were testifying that this is the worst man possible to lead our global health plan. And so you just look at that one thing as an example and say, and it was Bill Gates who ushered him in there.
Speaker 2:Why? Because they have dirt on him, because he's already a criminal, and now they can control him. He will do whatever they tell him to do. They've been setting this up for years, buying their influence such that even if the company's good, receiving that money, which is why I've turned down millions of dollars for the Plandemic brand to license it out or to even partner with anybody, we've remained 100% independent because I know the game. And I know that once they get in there and they give you a little bit more and then they earn your trust, the next thing you know, have 51% control of your board and they're telling you, yeah, I don't I can't let you say that kind of stuff anymore because, you know, we're in partnership with Pfizer and and so you're, you know, now that you're dependent, your company is dependent upon our funding.
Speaker 2:We have you. So they have now control of And that's what they're trying to build with the entire world right now. This whole idea of killing mom and pop businesses and to allow the big box mega corporate stores to take over. It makes all these people who are sovereign because they make their own money. They earn their own wage and they've innovated their own business.
Speaker 2:And so in that sense, aside from them being part of the government system, they're still financially independent. And COVID was one of the main pressure points was to end all of that so that people would then say, okay, I'll take your monthly stipend because I need it. Like I have to feed my family and pay my mortgage or whatever it might be. And the moment you arrange your life thinking now I'm getting 3,000 or 5,000 a month from the government, they own you. Now you say something on Facebook they don't like, and they say, guess who's not eating this month?
Speaker 2:It's already happening in Canada and Australia and places like that. So this is so far beyond a conspiracy theory. People need to wake up.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Gosh. There's so much to unpack here. And for me in in my journey through this, I've studied a lot about, you know, communist China specifically. And looking and as this started rolling out, obviously, this started in Wuhan.
Speaker 1:Right? And then, you know, you can tie the Wuhan lab lab to Fauci and near North Carolina, Chapel Hill, all these different locations. But then if you look into the CCP, I mean, in in 2015, the the People's Liberation Army of China was already had already published a book about using a bioweapon to bring down the whole world, basically, so China could move in their global communist system. Yeah. If you look at the coordination and the cooperation between, you know, Klaus Schwab, whose son happens to run the Beijing office of the World Economic Forum.
Speaker 1:Right? So there's all these ties between the globalist and the Chinese Communist Party. But then if you look into this is what, you know, made me think when you started saying it, is their social credit system. Yeah. You look into what China's done, which China's surveillance system is so incredible with with their with their civilians that within their, say, child policies, when they said they they had their two child policy, and it was the rule that your second you could only have a second child if your first child was a boy.
Speaker 1:Right? Or sorry, if your first child was a girl to give you a chance of having a boy. Their surveillance technology was so advanced that they would know if a woman already had a boy, and they would even know based upon her purchases for menstruation products, etc, and her social media profiles, her biometrics, they would know if a woman was pregnant. And so even if a woman kept it hidden, didn't tell anybody, they might show up in a black van four months into her pregnancy, take her away for a forced And that's what when you get into the discussion about the vaccine passports, and what you see happening in Australia, as you've talked about. Like, I have family there that can't go into a lot of the shops because they refuse to get the vaccine.
Speaker 1:And how so if you look at how that all fits into the social credit system, to me, that's frightening. And as much as people are, you know, concerned about, you know, the the overall the virus, they hid the virus, my thinking is, like, what's the Trojan horse that's coming inside this virus?
Speaker 2:Well, now you sound like a conspiracy theorist, Seth. This would never happen in America. There's no way that they would try to mandate vaccines and Oh, wait. You know, This is what we need to really pay attention to is all this stuff that the very first time that I started to speak out about the vaccine agenda, and I've never been anti vaccine. In the same way that I tried to explain to a LA Times reporter one time, because he said something about me being anti vaccine.
Speaker 2:I said, I'm not. He said, Well, clearly you are. Look at your movie. And I said, Do you have children? He said, I do.
Speaker 2:And I said, do you let them eat at McDonald's? He said, no. So why is that? He said, well, obviously because it's not food. It's bad for my children and I want them to grow up healthy.
Speaker 2:And I said, so you can distinguish between food and non food. So that means food that actually gives you nutrition and food that is unhealthy for you. That fills your stomach, but it also fills your body full of a lot of toxins. And I said, so why can't you distinguish between good medicine and bad medicine? Why when anyone fights medicine?
Speaker 2:I said, does that mean are you anti food? I asked him because you don't like McDonald's, so you must be anti food. So he goes, I see where you're going. I said, yeah, I hope you remember where we're going here because that's that's the point. We need to be more nuanced in understanding that we can't just collapse all of these subjects so that if somebody fights vaccine mandates, they went out and changed the definition.
Speaker 2:Now an anti vaxxer is somebody who fights vaccine mandates. They could be fully vaccinated. But if they say, no, I don't think they should be forced by our government, they are declared an anti vaxxer. All of these little things should be enough to have people, everybody, unite and do whatever it takes in our powers together to overcome these laws that are only designed to strip away our freedoms and disempower us to the degree that we can't do anything about it moving forward, like you mentioned. If we just look at China as a model and understand, the credit score, if we can look, just consider that we all have a credit score when it comes to finances.
Speaker 2:So if you want to go buy a home or a car, they have to look at your credit score number. Oh, it's over 700. Fantastic. Okay, then you qualify to buy this car. Oh, it's not?
Speaker 2:So that shows the history of your integrity around finances. So it makes sense because if I'm a lender, one way that I know whether or not you're a responsible person with your money and if you're going pay me back or not is to look at the history of your credit score. So these are all things that were seeded to get us used to it. But then when it Now that's transferred to how you're behaving as a citizen. Like literally, you doing this call with me would lower your credit score because you're giving a voice to somebody who's been declared in certain sects of our government an enemy of the state, because I go against the narrative.
Speaker 2:And so your credit score would be lowered and you would receive a notice. And in some cases you might even arrive home and find yourself evicted because you've done something or you're associated with someone that they deem such a danger to their overall control program that they're now going to punish you by putting you on the streets and teaching you a lesson. And so I hope people have seen enough by now to see that our government is capable of that. I don't want to say our government because again, I don't want to conflate. I don't want to be guilty of the same thing because there are good elements and good people within our government.
Speaker 2:And there's good people and great elements within our medical system. So we have to become more nuanced. It's the same problem that happens when people will say, oh, China's bad. Be careful with that because we're actually talking about the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, and not the beautiful Chinese people. It's the same mentality that brings about racism, right?
Speaker 2:You have an experience with a certain culture and you go, I don't like those people instead of I don't like that person. And that simple way of thinking is very, very dangerous. And by design, we're wired to think that way because we see it and we emulate it because it's done all the time in the media. You know, they don't just judge somebody for what they are. They put any label on them they want.
Speaker 2:You know, everyone's a racist today. Everyone wants a white supremacist, you know, because it's the most horrific labels that no one wants. It doesn't matter if what this person did, say, like someone like Kyle Rittenhouse had nothing to do with anyone, any person that was black or brown. You know, he was targeted by white felons or some white criminals, and he defended himself. And yet he's a white supremacist, even when he was part of a group that was there to protect the city.
Speaker 2:And there's video of him saying both sides, the protesters and Black Lives Matter as well. We want to protect everyone has a right to be here. We just want to make sure people are safe. And someone within that same group said, no lives matter till Black Lives Matter. And yet the media shields us all from seeing that, that that's the true intention there.
Speaker 2:They were just protecting their environment because they had lost so much the two days before. And when you destroy your neighborhood, you destroy your way of life. It may never come back. And if it does, it may come back in a way that's not even livable. And so people should have the right to say, please don't burn down our neighborhoods.
Speaker 2:And and we will, if we have to, create a barrier to stop you from destroying a business that may be a four generation family owned and and built business by immigrants brown and black They don't care. Just go in and destroy everything. And so it's just important that we get better at looking at something for what it is and not conflating it and being because honestly, extremism is the problem in this nation. Extreme left and extreme right and extreme thinking is the problem. So that's extreme when we suddenly just go, well, that guy defended himself so he's a white supremacist, when there's nothing at all in any of the history of that young man's social media presence that would validate such a horrific label putting on it, being placed on him.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And it happens to all of us. It's happened to you. It's happened to me. Somebody who has has fought for indigenous people and black people and built schools in Africa and took water to Africa for many, many decades and have done a lot of work to help those at the bottom, to help those that are not as privileged as us here in The United States.
Speaker 2:And, you know, and they've tried to place those horrible labels on me when there's nothing that I've done that would suggest that that's warranted. And so that's a really big problem that we need to overcome. And we as the people need to start rejecting that. The moment we hear someone do it, we need to say, no, stop. That's not because what you're doing, you call everyone, every man who might flirt with a woman a rapist.
Speaker 2:What does that do to the real victims of rape? What does it do to the real victims of racism? Because it's real. When everyone's a racist, how do we identify the true white supremacists when everyone's a white supremacist? It breaks down the system to where now we we don't even know what to fight anymore, and that is by design.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I now what you're seeing is that division growing between the vaxxed and the unvaxxed.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Right? Where you like you know, another another example is Australia, right, where they've got the even quarantine camps, and they it's like, can people see what's happening? But a question that I have for you is, with all the research you've done, all the experts that you've spoken to, where do you see this going?
Speaker 3:Like,
Speaker 1:are we at the beginning stages of this final plan being rolled out? Like, where do you see it headed? And then after that, how do you find hope in the future? Because I think you have to kind of hit to talk about the two things together.
Speaker 2:Well, I will say that where it's going is both good and bad. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better, but it it actually needs to. It needs to get worse because there's still a a good degree of our nation and our world that hasn't seen it yet. It's kind of baffling. It means they probably spend a lot of time at home watching CNN or MSNBC, and they're just fed.
Speaker 2:That's their only window to the world. If they got into the street and talked with people, if they actually did a little bit of their own research, And instead of just shaming somebody who says something that is outside the mainstream narrative, they actually looked at the information they were sharing and went down that hole and started to really look to see the majority of the time there's there's something there. There is a there there that people need to wake up to. But what I ultimately know is this, and this is just confirmed for me the other day, it was an awesome thing to validate. I've been saying through all of our research here, I have an awesome research team.
Speaker 2:And I've been saying it seems very clear at this point that this particular agenda was not supposed to occur for about another four to five years. Well, from this point, another three years. But from when it started, it was about, it felt like by every indication of what was being built in the same way that you can look at a home being built. And even if you're not a carpenter, you can kind of guess what the next stages are and that we have the frame on now and then goes the drywall and then goes the roof then goes or whatever the roof first and then goes the drywall and then goes all the interior, you know, electricity and whatever you might have. You understand there's a progression to build this house till you finally end up with all the interior design with the carpet and the drapes and all of that.
Speaker 2:If you look at the structure that was being built, you can see that the home wasn't built yet. The roof wasn't on yet. And that's why there's so much leaking happening and so much stuff that has failed because, and it really has a lot to do with, you know, your viewers will it doesn't even matter to me at this point. Love love Trump, hate Trump. That doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:But the the one thing that we can't deny is that he was not supposed to be in the position that he got himself into. They had a plan. If you read the WikiLeaks leaks, you'll understand they had what they call the Pied Piper strategy, which was to elevate Donald Trump and then release that tape, grab him by the you know what tape, and kill him and but raise him up so that no other legitimate GOP Republican candidate would have a chance and and then destroy him, and then Hillary's a shoo in. There's only one person left. That was their plan.
Speaker 2:And to their shock, a lot of America didn't care. Didn't care that he said that. Because the alternative was so much worse that saying something foul like that, as much as we can say not cool, it's still not as deadly to our future as a neocon like Hillary Clinton who has a provable track record of heinous crime. And so him infiltrating a system and their plan failing, and then after every emergency new plan A, plan B, plan C, plan D, a new investigation, Mueller report, Russia, Russia, all the stuff that they tried to do. Kavanaugh, everything.
Speaker 2:How do we just keep this in so much investigation and impeach, impeach, impeach that we cripple him to the degree that he gets destroyed and didn't work. So they finally reached a point where they said that thing we're going to do in four years, we have no other choice but to bring that forward. That was just validated through some very deep research that some very genius organization did that I'll reveal in the coming weeks, where they determine the same thing that the COVID-nineteen was not supposed to happen for about approximately four years from the point that it was announced. And so And
Speaker 1:I hope I was jumping real quick. I hope that you can you can share that when you have it with me because
Speaker 2:I will.
Speaker 1:That's something that I've talked about a lot and and kind of theorized about too that that's what is the saving grace in this that he wasn't supposed to get in.
Speaker 2:That's
Speaker 1:right. He wasn't supposed to reveal the truth of the fake news media, you know, to push the tech companies so far, they'd have to react in the ways they did that you could they couldn't hide it anymore. And that right there just screwed the whole plan up. So go ahead and continue this. This is a very interesting
Speaker 2:story. It really did. That and you used the perfect word. It's it's the saving grace, and it's something that we'll look back when we understand exactly how this unfolded. We'll look back and there's some gratitude to be shared there because it really will turn out to be the thing that moves us into the stage.
Speaker 2:And I'll finally answer your question. And that is we're headed into a good place. We're headed into a much darker place temporarily. And like I said, we need to be there because what has become very apparent is that people have to have a direct experience before they will believe something so catastrophic and so, quite frankly, unbelievable. What's happening in my I see it every single day.
Speaker 2:I still constantly believe this is happening in our nation, the land of the free, the home of the brave, and that we've allowed it to happen. I want to be clear on that. We've allowed this to happen. So while there is a they, while there is a cabal of people that are working covertly to create what is unfolding right now, we through our buying into the idea that never talk politics and become accustomed to, and I would even say addicted to comfort and convenience. Way, if you just look at one, the way that men have been addicted to televised sports and that there's no more about the NBA and every single player and their grade point average and everything about their lives.
Speaker 2:It's very common that there is an archetype of men who know more about that than their own children and more than they know about the people that are running politics. And that's a real problem. So we're invested in a game that we're actually not playing, that we're just observing, we're spectators. And we're allowing the lives of strangers to become more prevalent and valuable and important than the lives of our family and the local community. And we need to take a look at that through, that's just one example.
Speaker 2:I don't mean to pick on the men because it happens across the board, but we've all been there and I'm guilty of it myself. But as we've been sleeping, this is what's been taking place. And so we need to take responsibility, but here's the good news. At the end of the day, it's our fault, which means we're the cause because we've allowed it. But that also
Speaker 1:gives us the power
Speaker 2:to do something about it. We're at cause of the situation can be the solution. We've allowed problem to come to the point to where it is now. And now it's up to us to do something about it. No one's coming to save us.
Speaker 2:There's no miracle cure. Stop believing all the hype that something's going to come in and save us. It's going to be through incremental moves and a change in our daily and moment to moment behavior. Where do we spend our money? Because we vote with every dollar we spend.
Speaker 2:Do we look at that? Do we understand that and they've admitted this to all the world leaders. So this is, again, no conspiracy theory, that they are working very hard to become the world's superpower and to overtake America. This is their goal. They've told all our world leaders this.
Speaker 2:As even Biden said, they're dead serious about it. And so if we can admit that, that we have another nation, a communist nation, that is working very deep, very in dark ways to take us down, to destroy our way of lives, our families, the way we relate to each other to break down. They're part of our, against masculinity that then become What happens when we stop procreating? When we can drive a wedge between men and women like has been happening for decades? We stop procreating as a real problem.
Speaker 2:Some of these globalists will overpopulate, and that is BS. Inhabit, out of the 20% inhabitable land on planet Earth, we inhabit about 1% to 2% of it. There's so much more land available.
Speaker 1:You drive across America, and you see I consistently joke with my wife, we're driving through Pennsylvania, you know, the way to New York or out West, and you're driving. How is overpopulation even a thing? You could fit so many people everywhere just in America.
Speaker 2:Well, it's only a thing in the territories where they have pushed everyone to how you if you go to places in China, places in India, you'll see overpopulation. There's no doubt about it. But India has so much land that's not being utilized. And when you look at the the UN and their agenda 21 and agenda twenty thirty, it actually talks about moving everyone out of the rural areas and moving them into Why would they do that? Why wouldn't they move people out and teach them how to capture their own rain and grow their own food if there really is a problem with potential shortage of of those two resources?
Speaker 2:And yet they push everyone into the city. Why? Because that's where they can control them. And when you're out on your own growing your own food and and detached from the the grid, whatever that, know, electrical grid, water grid, whatever it might be, they have control over you. And we saw that during the lockdowns, particularly in California where I escaped.
Speaker 2:I've always wondered as a twenty plus year environmentalist, I learned somewhere around 2012 or so, we really got under the fight to preserve clean water. As I mentioned, I was working with bringing water to Africa and other nations. And that's when I discovered that in certain states, relations that prohibit people from either catching rain altogether or they allow only so much per month. And I could not figure this out. I was baffled.
Speaker 2:I thought, what is the logical reason that you would stop citizen capturing the rain that fall from the heavens, from the sky, from the clouds, and utilizing it for their crops and their family and and get them off the local grid because everyone at the same time says we're going to run out of water soon. There's going be water shortage. And so what is that about? Well, it's first of all, when they're catching their own rain, they're not paying for their water. And then we saw it in the beginning of the lockdowns.
Speaker 2:What was the one thing they threatened when they didn't have quite the authority, the legal authority to arrest people constitutionally, for keeping their stores open, their businesses open, what did they do? They shut off their water and their power. So it's another device of control. And these are all the things that we have to we're now waking up to see like, wow, they have set a moment that we're now experiencing as we both identified. Because this plan was pushed forward, the number of mistakes have been so many that it's waking up even the And as we said, the saving grace in our future that we'll look back and say, thank God for that, because it really could have gotten us, but it won't.
Speaker 2:And we'll recover from this and hopefully will never allow it to happen again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, good answer. So, Mickey, I wanna talk a little bit about Plandemic three. I wanna start that off just by showing the the recent trailer teaser you released, which well, watch just the the main first half of it, and which I've watched a handful of times, and it's so well done and that it's it's uncomfortable. So let let's let's let our viewers watch this real quick because it's it's it's so impactful.
Speaker 5:Build is one of the largest public education campaigns ever.
Speaker 4:President Biden's chief medical adviser says people need what he calls trusted messengers.
Speaker 3:The White House has now recruited TikTokers, YouTubers, and more.
Speaker 5:The goal, convince Americans, get the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 3:It's vaccination day. It's vaccination day. It's vaccination day. Today, I get my COVID chat, and I'm feeling really fat for months I have been waiting for this day.
Speaker 2:R o n a v I r u s
Speaker 3:dash nineteen. Time to take a shot. The doctor that was in charge of my case told me to get used to being handicapped, which Excuse me. I never in a million years thought I would never be able to get up and go to the bathroom.
Speaker 6:Forty six percent of all the deaths that have happened for vaccines over the last thirty one years happened in the last three months with these COVID vaccines.
Speaker 4:Where I live my ability to talk and the full function of the right side of my body.
Speaker 2:Family says the mother and grandmother was healthy before she got her shot and that her sudden death came as a shock. I am in the hospital with heart complications from the COVID-nineteen vaccine.
Speaker 3:The CDC. The CDC has confirmed higher than normal cases.
Speaker 4:The heart inflammation in 16 to 24 year olds. A football player is dead.
Speaker 2:After collapsing Just hours after getting his second
Speaker 4:Second dose of COVID vaccine. Loved ones say the 17 year old's heart stopped. Suddenly collapsing.
Speaker 3:The player collapsed during practice.
Speaker 4:Collapsing during the
Speaker 3:game. Collapsing on the tennis court. He collapsed. He collapsed. That player has just collapsed.
Speaker 3:It seems that there is a second player who's collapsed.
Speaker 1:This is unusual.
Speaker 3:I've never seen anything like this. Yeah. What's going on? This has, been something no one has ever seen before. There is some evidence that some sort of delayed reaction to COVID.
Speaker 3:My son is dead because he took the vaccine. They're lying. They're lying.
Speaker 4:We are pro vaccine and post science, which is why we agreed to let Maddie volunteer for the trial. Why is social media so intent on censoring it? No one is letting anyone know. No mainstream media. Nothing.
Speaker 4:You have to dig and dig and dig to find anything, and even then you're called crazy.
Speaker 3:Last week, there were more deaths in America from the COVID vaccine than from COVID itself. Breaking news from the FDA, which has just approved the emergency use of the Pfizer vaccine for children ages five to 11. By the end of this year, doctor Fauci believes there will be a vaccine available for kids as young as six months.
Speaker 5:And that means millions of young children can get their first dose right now.
Speaker 4:We just want you guys to believe that this is real. We are real people experiencing these side effects.
Speaker 7:It's a crazy thing to vaccinate them with something that is actually 50 times more likely to kill them than the virus itself. We've been patient,
Speaker 1:but our patience is wearing thin. What is the problem?
Speaker 3:Get over it. Come on, people. Just get the shot.
Speaker 2:Just get a vaccine. Can't hear you.
Speaker 1:Can you hear me?
Speaker 2:You go.
Speaker 1:Okay, great. Sorry about that. Well,
Speaker 3:seven days at There you go. Gotcha.
Speaker 1:Thankfully, you couldn't see me while watching that because I was holding off tears. I mean, that is one of the most intense videos I've seen and how it was overlaid. What was it like creating that and piecing it all together and seeing that?
Speaker 2:Well, it was a lot of emotions when we're put up together. COVID related stuff is just one part of our job. So we're heavily involved in still today of helping with the rescues out of Afghanistan. So we get video that's from the hands of the Taliban. So we see the storm.
Speaker 2:We see it when it's out on television. And that kind of stuff is is difficult, especially when it pertains to children. And what what these what's happening at, you know, at the hands of these terrorists is really, really difficult, very difficult to watch. And this stuff is not that much better. I'm constantly reminded of how fortunate my wife and I are that we have two very healthy children.
Speaker 2:Because when I'm down with a parent who really truly believed that they were doing the right thing and they bought into the whole moral obligation and doing the right thing and taking one for the team and that it was all safe and effective. These parents who say, two hours later, my child became unresponsive and they haven't spoke since or they haven't walked since and they were a cheerleader or a football player or whatever it might be. And you just can't deny what caused this. It's sadness and I will say that I just get angered nowadays, but I do my best to transmute that anger into something useful, which is action. And that's why we continue to do the work we're doing despite the danger and the death threats and every highway and my team's way.
Speaker 2:I just couldn't live with myself at this point if we didn't do something knowing what we know.
Speaker 1:Gosh, when do you plan on releasing the third Plandemic?
Speaker 2:Plandemic was released 05/04/2020, And I remember that date very clearly because I took a big swallow, a big gulp, and I knew that as I pushed that button that my life would change. I didn't know in what direction or what would come of it, but I just knew that after we had done all of our research to know that what matters most is what we're saying to the world is honest. That's all it will receive that. I'll accept first. Is it truthful?
Speaker 2:But we said to ourselves, may the fourth be with us because it was May 4 and we hit the button. And so we're going to release Plymouth three on May 4.
Speaker 1:Good and I'm I'm already greatly in anticipation of it, but something I wanted to bring up with this is that I you recently recently on bit shoot, saw it on your, your channel out there, that you mentioned earlier, read it in your book that you've turned away so much money that people want to come and they've wanted to license pandemic, they've wanted to pay you, I'm sure that, as we talked about earlier, it could have led down the path where you lose control over it, which may have been the original intention with those things. But how can people support you? Because obviously, the quality that you're putting into these, this is not a small scale production. And it's got to be, I imagine, a big team and all kinds of overhead. So people that are watching, how can they support what they're doing?
Speaker 1:Is there a way that that we can donate to to your your efforts with Pandemic three?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I appreciate you asking. On our website at PlandemicSeries.com, there is a big and 100% of that goes to the production of our work. And one of the ways I have a lot of filmmakers and content creators that will reach out to me and ask, how did you it's the most seen really in history. The only two things that we've been able to find that have exceeded and gone beyond Plandemic one is baby shark and what is other?
Speaker 2:Gungan style. So they've even come close to reaching the world the way that this has and there's a reason for that. It was a % people powered so it's really people who made this happen. And some people will say to thank you for making up one eighth of our globalization. I say thank you to the people because it was not only was it the people who funded through donations our work, but they distributed the work.
Speaker 2:They downloaded the file. And the more they got censored, angrier they got and unstoppable. But that is our model. I had to reverse engineer everything I was taught in marketing and distribution school, so to speak. And that is there's a real energy that taught content creators.
Speaker 2:And it's kind of a hoarding energy. It's making sure you release it on one platform so you can capture all the emails. Because those emails will translate into butts in seats or dollars or however they say it, so you want to make sure energy. And for me, was I said our distribution model is generosity. Let's let go of all of that.
Speaker 2:Let's not turn on a single commercial. And let's do this 100% through investors. Then you have this thing called ROI, return on investment. And that then dictates wherever you put. You want to give it away as a filmmaker.
Speaker 2:You know how important it is, and you know that's going to save lives. You want to give it away. But then you have a contractual obligation to your investors. Their money back. So it stops you from giving it away.
Speaker 2:And now this may not get as many views, but they're offering more money and I can get the investors paid back. I said that I will not receive a single dollar investment or profit from this and we're going to do it 100% on investment. And we're doing that from now on. It's a model that really because we just us enough, just what we need and we spend it all and we put it out for free in the world and people. It's been amazing watching over the past year and a half or so as people try to wrap their heads around it.
Speaker 2:We we got calls from Hulu, Roku companies saying we'd like to show your movie and how do we get permission to do that and what kind of fee and I say there's no fee, we won't receive a dollar. I've had people say well business model wise we kind of have to give you. And I said, well, it's not for you because I won't take a dollar. But you understand it's yours. We made this for the people.
Speaker 2:It's a gift to you. You don't need my permission. The only time we've ever gone after anyone and said, please don't do that is when people are saying, this is the official Plandemic account. Because we don't want to present us. So we say, please don't call yourself the official because that might confuse people and give us a bad name.
Speaker 2:So please don't do that, but you're welcome to do whatever you want. It's your movie and it's for the people and we're going to continue to do that. We are right now raising more funds to finish. We're about $30 of Pandemic three. And we're almost out of money.
Speaker 2:And so we're raising money right now. And whatever people can do to contribute, maybe even as an ongoing monthly supporter would be awesome. It's all right there on plan the mix series common when it comes out and we appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Great. Well, we're gonna move and just do some we have some questions that we've gathered from folks on Rise TV, which is our our our platform. So, yeah, it was actually supposed to be on Rumble as well, but we're gonna upload it after this. So for those of you that did watch this on the uploaded version afterwards on Rumble, thank you for, you know, being patient with our technological stuff. If you do wanna go see the question answer portion is over on Rise TV.
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