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what is up everybody and welcome to the
united states department of nerds where we
are for the people by the people and
of the people and tonight we step into
the cobweb corridors of horror nostalgia a
place where the ink drink drips darker
than blood and the punch lights
punchlines bite harder than the ghouls who
tell them.
Our guest tonight is Grant Lankard,
the creative mind behind Beowulf,
League of Cryptids,
and the Haunted Horror Anthology that we
will be talking about tonight,
Memoirs of the Morbid.
And this is going to be the Orange
Edition.
Grant, welcome to the show, my guy.
Hey, how's it going tonight?
We're going
Pretty good over here.
Grant, first of all, welcome to the USDN.
And let's rewind a little bit back to
the nineteen nineties when comic creators
were like rock stars.
And so what was it like growing up
surrounded by that kind of energy and what
particular comic book kind of made you
grab a hold of that and bring it
into what this book is today?
Um, yeah, I didn't, I didn't really read,
I didn't really read too much horror comic
books when I was a kid.
It was, um, okay.
More superhero.
Um, as far as what was it like?
Um, yeah,
the nineties were an exciting time for
comic books.
Um, you could,
you could get comic books almost
everywhere.
Um,
For those who don't know,
there was what's called a speculator boom
in comic books,
which means that even really bad comic
books were selling hundreds of thousands
of copies.
To put this into perspective...
The highest selling comic book of last
year probably would have gotten canceled
in nineteen ninety three due to low sales.
Like it's true.
That's how that's how crazy it was at
that time.
You also had a lot of really exciting
creators,
at least creators that at the time I
thought were really exciting.
Some of their some of their work has
not aged yet.
as great.
Give us an example of a few of
them that you would kind of,
you enjoyed in that timeframe.
Well, I mean, some of them,
some of them that have aged pretty well
would be like Jim Lee, Mike Mignola.
Some of the ones that haven't aged as
well,
I would say would be like Rob Liefeld.
Still can't draw feet.
Right.
Um, and I mean, and that's to say,
I mean, um,
there's definitely a lot of excitement in
Rob Liefeld's drawings.
Um, they were definitely different.
They, um,
he definitely was not following any trends
or anything like that, but, um,
Yeah,
pure artistic skill was not really great.
That's true,
but he could put together a good story
with Youngbloods.
He helped bring image to the map with
Todd McFarlane.
He's one of the original founding fathers
over there,
along with Jim Lee and a few others.
So I give him his credit.
Without him,
I don't think we'd get the image we
have today, and that image is booming big.
Right.
Yeah, I didn't mention Todd McFarlane.
His comic books were kind of in the
middle, like not really bad,
but not really good either.
I also should mention Eric Larson.
I really loved Savage Dragon when I was
a kid.
Okay, yep.
He was there when Image,
when they first started.
Oh, no.
I will put Todd McFarlane on a pedestal
because I am still reading Spawn today.
Oh, really?
I've never wavered.
Even though he doesn't draw it anymore?
He still does issues.
He still does covers.
He still does some writing.
I think he kind of steps in when
the story needs a new direction.
I think he kind of steps in,
starts it on a new path,
in a new direction,
and then kind of hands it off to
another writer to let them do their thing.
But yeah, he still does some writing.
He still does a lot of covers and
stuff like that.
You might be right about that.
I don't know if that's official or not.
He's in a multi-million dollar business
right now,
so I can't really knock the guy if
he wants to take his hands off and
kind of give it off to some of
these amazing creators that he does have
working on it.
But let's dive into a little bit more
of
what you're bringing to us today.
So you've, you started,
your very first book was Beowulf, correct?
Or was it the other one?
Okay.
Give us a little bit about what Beowulf
was for you.
You mean my comic book or the inspiration
for it?
Yours and kind of what, what inspired it?
Yeah,
so the comic book is essentially the guy
you learned about in high school but
reincarnated in modern times.
Now, why Beowulf in particular?
I remember as a kid,
my parents had one of those like time
life books, uh,
different fairy tales and myths and stuff.
And I remember reading the Beowulf story
in that.
And what struck me at about it was
the fact that it reminded me of like
a superhero story.
Um, and I remember thinking like,
you know what, why, why not?
Um,
kind of combine the two.
And that's why Beowulf stood out for me.
Now,
a lot of people have mentioned to me
that from a marketing standpoint,
it was a good idea to do Beowulf
just because as much as everybody's heard
of Beowulf,
but there aren't a lot of modern versions
of Beowulf.
I can't think of any really off the
top of my head.
Well, there's a few here and there.
There's the Angelina Jolie one from like
the early two thousands.
We don't count that one.
As opposed to Robin Hood or King Arthur
or Hercules,
which get revamped once every couple
years.
Beowulf,
pretty much very rarely gets adapted.
That's true.
And I've seen the more modern...
I thought the Grendel,
the more modern version of Grendel was
really good.
I did not enjoy the Beowulf as much.
But... So let's do this.
So this book...
has kind of been a bridge from the
golden age of comics into like a modern
horror anthology.
So how did this evolve with the red
edition, blue edition,
and now the orange edition?
And kind of why did you go with
color schemes?
And what does this new chapter bring to
the table for you?
So I went with a color scheme as
opposed to volume one, volume two,
volume three,
because all of the stories are
self-contained.
I didn't want people to think they had
to read volume one and then read volume
two and then read volume three.
Yeah, that makes sense.
You can read these books in any order,
or it doesn't even matter if you read
–
volume one at all you can just go
straight into volume three or the the
orange volume okay no i i think that's
a cool concept and a cool way to
do it versus uh making an anthology where
kind of one story continues into the next
book and stuff like that kind of like
how hello darkness does for boom studios
yeah so no that's a really cool concept
i like that and so
Let's talk about what's coming up inside
the Orange Edition.
You got four stories plus a bonus segment.
And each is like its own little twisted
mirror.
Let's start with the Cubicle of the
Damned.
And I feel that title in my chest
every day.
I walk into my office.
But give us a little bit of background
on that particular story.
so so all of the stories are i
would say are there's a lot of besides
being a lot of horror there's also a
lot of humor in this uh anthology and
i would say of all of them i
think uh cubicle of the damned probably
has the most humor
I was describing it as kind of like
Office Space meets The Exorcist.
In other words,
it takes place in an office,
but it's got a lot of horror elements
in it.
Essentially, the idea is there's a young,
like,
twenty-something kid who has his first job
After college,
he gets a job in an office,
and he realizes slowly but surely
something in the office is kind of
draining people of their life force.
And, you know, people are telling him, oh,
that's just what working in an office will
do.
And eventually he finds out that there's
something supernatural behind how his
coworkers all kind of look like they're
having the life drained out of them.
So this to me was probably my favorite
story out of them because I can relate
to it a hundred percent working in an
office like that.
Granted, I love my day job,
but there are days,
especially like today where the weather is
like hot garbage outside and you're stuck
inside watching it through the window,
just pour down rain.
And it is slow.
It's our slow time of year with the
holidays coming up.
So yeah, that one was,
that would definitely resonated with me a
whole lot bud but um so up next
we have um the bubble it's kind of
like a time travel a scientist and what
he believes is a caveman with shocking
origins right this one was also really
good like and i think i got it
but i'm not sure i'm pretty sure i
did but kind of what inspired that one
and
for you?
First of all,
I should note that I didn't write that
one.
That one was written by William Conway.
What I enjoyed about it was,
like you said, I think I got it,
but I'm not a hundred percent sure.
I like
kind of that ambiguity where, like,
at the end, you're not quite sure.
Yeah.
You think you have an idea of what
happened,
but you're not a hundred percent sure.
No, I'm right there with you.
And it was a very fun one.
And I was like,
i kind of got it from the beginning
on that one but i didn't want to
like just speculate right away i wanted to
see where it was going and uh i
enjoyed it immensely the writer on that
one nailed a fun story yeah it's a
little bit spooky it has a little bit
of um like the jewels burn kind of
aesthetic um
not just in terms of of the story
but also you know just the whole kind
of vibe of it yeah a hundred percent
because i mean he's working on time travel
yeah so you get that element to it
and then him just all of a sudden
finding this random stranger that he
decides he needs to help
And that was what was weird about it.
I'm like,
why would he decide that he needs to
particularly help this one specific
person?
So I thought that was interesting.
There had to be a draw there.
So a really good one.
And next up was Fiona's Fantasy Forest.
A children's host revisiting her imaginary
world going horribly wrong.
Kind of like Mr.
Rogers meets Silent Hill here.
Right.
So the idea behind this story is a
children's host.
Think of like either Pee Wee Herman or
like Mr. Rogers or somebody like that.
They take a break from going to their
imaginary land.
And one day they decide, you know what,
I'm going to go back to the imaginary
land.
And all hell has broken loose in this.
in their imaginary world where, you know,
everybody's fighting,
everybody's having a war,
a revolution is broken out.
Um, some of the background characters, uh,
have gotten kind of evil in, uh,
different kinds of ways.
Um, I'm trying,
I'm trying hard to describe it without
giving too much.
Um,
so if you're a comic book reader and
if you have read Scotty Young's,
I hate fairy land,
It's very much that type of vibe with
fantasy creatures.
Like Dora the Explorer's world exploded.
And all the creatures all of a sudden
hate each other.
And they're pillaging villages.
They've broken off and they have their
own...
Like the elves are one thing and the
animals are another thing.
The lumberjack is like menacing to
everybody.
It was a fun, eclectic, wild story.
And I enjoyed that one immensely.
It very much gave me Scotty Young.
I hate fairyland vibes.
And I was there all about it.
And I can't wait to see it fully
colored because I got a feeling that's
going to be a spectacular edition once
that one is colored.
So, and then up next, we had invaders,
which it was a hundred percent complete
when I got,
when you sent it over to me,
but I kind of got what it was
about,
but it's a sci-fi horror space survival
with alien confrontation.
It kind of,
it was giving me that the cinematic feels
of like predator or alien or something
along those lines.
So what can you tell us about that
when it kind of like,
what was some of the inspiration behind
it?
So I didn't write that one either.
My friend wrote that one, but, um, yeah,
so it's, it's, uh,
you're definitely going to get, um, alien,
um, vibes from it.
It's a, a woman is on a spaceship.
She discovers that she's not alone on the
spaceship.
There's also an alien on there.
Um,
And it has kind of a shocking ending.
I'm not going to give away what the
ending is, though.
So if you guys are sensing a trend
here that all of these stories kind of
have like a twist ending,
that is true to...
the original uh ec comics like tales from
the crypt or creep show that's that was
very that was coming up next this is
a good segue you had a sponsor for
this comic book with job corpse and the
staffing agency for the post living which
is genius marketing and the whole comic
book is hosted by this ghoulish figure
reminiscent of the crypt keeper which
be honest probably my favorite part of the
entire thing because he brought that light
humor to each story as it was kicking
off and i was always a huge fan
of the tv show so kind of where
did your idea of that come from was
it the ec comments and the creep shows
and that kind of stuff yeah uh i
mean he's kind of a parody of of
uh the the crypt keeper he's maybe
he's maybe halfway between a parody and an
homage, but, um, uh, yeah.
So, uh,
basically he's like the Crypt Keeper if
the Crypt Keeper was really bad at his
job and he's way more worried about,
you know, what,
like how big his trailer is then.
Um, uh, he is a diva.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
No, that was really fun, dude.
Who come up with Job Corps?
So my wife and I kind of were...
So that story, or the bonus section,
was co-written by my wife and I.
my wife is a, um,
is a pretty good writer.
She just, she doesn't like,
how do I put this?
She doesn't like putting the effort into
getting her stuff published.
So, um,
she writes a lot of stories that kind
of, um, kind of,
she doesn't really submit anywhere.
So, um,
she came up with this.
Well,
I would say we both came up with
this idea.
Like we were kind of bouncing ideas off
of each other.
Um,
and originally where the idea came from
was she, she went into a,
a pharmacy to get her prescription.
And she, when she came back out,
she was like, Oh my God,
you should have seen this girl.
She, she,
she looks like they propped up a zombie.
And so we,
we started like bouncing ideas off of each
other.
Like, you know, what if,
what if there was a staffing company that
provided zombies?
And I was like, yeah,
this could be a section in Memoirs of
the Morbid.
And he said, well,
instead of making it a story,
wouldn't it be better if it was like
an infomercial?
And yeah, that's where the idea came from.
Dude, it's brilliant.
And like I said,
the stories were fantastic,
but I enjoyed seeing the ghoul in between
complaining about his trailer,
complaining to his manager and then
sponsoring the job corpse and those little
vignettes that you did between the
stories.
Thanks.
Probably my favorite part.
So shout out to your wife, too, man,
which leads us to the creators.
So you've got a pretty good team of
creators here,
an international team for sure,
from Pittsburgh to Brazil, London.
And then you worked with Brian Morris,
who is your editor and horror
co-conspirator.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So tell us a little bit about that
team and how this team came together for
this.
So a lot of them.
So actually, crazily enough,
William Conway was a recommendation from
an artist who actually ended up not not
finishing his story for the book.
Like there was no drama or anything.
He just didn't have time to.
Yeah, no, that happens all the time.
It's it's just a part of the business.
So, but, um, William, he came on,
he told, he told me the concept.
I liked it.
Uh, I told him to,
to write it up.
And then, uh, Alberto Pessoa, uh,
the artist on bubble, he was, he,
he was awesome.
He's worked on, uh,
memoirs of the morbid before.
He's always really easy to get along with.
He, he's a great artist.
He has a full time teaching gig.
So, uh,
He can't do...
He can't do a regular monthly comic book,
but something small like this that had
really relaxed deadlines,
he was great for.
Now, obviously, we mentioned my wife,
Angie Dudas.
Obviously,
I know her because she's my wife.
And like I said, I...
you know, it used to bother me that,
that, you know,
my wife had all these ideas for stories
and then she never really put them out,
but you know,
it doesn't seem to bother her.
So I don't,
I think she's happy writing these stories
but not necessarily getting them
published.
It's her release and how she blows off
some steam,
sits down with a notebook and writes out
some stories.
That's a really cool way to do it.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people have
a lot of good stories just sitting on
a shelf somewhere that nobody will ever
see.
So she was actually going to write a
much longer story in this story.
And she just said, like, you know,
I don't know if I have the,
if I want to do that.
So we did this story as kind of
a compromise.
It's a great compromise.
It was a lot of fun.
Thanks.
So then I did the story and the
art for cubicle of the damned.
Um, uh, Cuba,
I did the art and the, the,
the story for cubicle of the dam and
the story definitely comes from me.
Um,
Definitely comes from my days working in a
cubicle.
I know you said you love your day
job.
I really do.
So I'm retired,
and then I got a day job that's
almost identical to what I did when I
retired.
So for me,
it's kind of like I love going to
work.
There's days where I'm sitting in the
office,
and it just sucks the life out of
you because there's not a whole lot going
on.
And it's just an ebb and flow of
things.
So that was more my experience from
working in an office was, yeah,
feeling like the life was getting sucked
out of me.
So then as far as, like I said,
one of the artists dropped out and didn't
finish their story.
So I actually, I don't know,
I got the idea for Fiona's Fantasy Forest
and thankfully Samir Samoa was free.
So I wrote down this idea and I
got him to do the art for it.
And...
No, I mean, they really nailed because,
I mean,
it feels like it blown in the nineteen
seventies with the original EC comics and
the original creep shows.
But it felt modern as well.
And which shout out to EC comics,
by the way,
they are producing some really great in
the horror anthology series right now.
And they dip their toes into to sci
fi as well.
And they have some really great stuff out
there.
And I know I recommend EC Comets all
the time,
just simply because I think they're that
good.
Ani Press now has them.
So they're underneath the Ani Press
umbrella,
but they are producing some really good
stuff right now.
So, I mean,
if you're going to be inspired by a
series,
EC Comets is definitely the perfect
choice.
Yeah,
it feels like it's making a comeback,
right?
Oh, it's huge.
Yeah, absolutely.
They're selling really well.
Their specialty is anthology comics,
and I enjoy horror anthology,
anthology sci-fi, and that kind of stuff,
like the Hello Darkness from Boom Studios.
I feel like I'm getting a little bit
more for my money,
even though I have to come back the
following month to get the next one to
continue the story.
And I'm okay with that because I enjoy
the artists in those books.
I enjoy the storytellers.
I know before they did Epitaphs of the
Abyss,
it ended and they started Catacombs of
Torment.
But within...
Epitaphs of the Abyss,
Karina Beko is writing a story called
Blood Type,
which now has spun out of Epitaphs of
the Abyss into its own comic book,
which is the very first time that EC
Comets has pulled an anthology story out
of their anthology comic book and gave it
its own story.
And that's being written by Karina Beko,
who is an absolutely phenomenal writer.
And it's such a good story.
So I think they're really on top of
their game right now.
And Ani Press has Rick and Morty as
well.
I don't know how many people enjoy Rick
and Morty the comic books,
but the comic books are a lot of
fun.
And I know they're ending in December.
They will print their last issue of Rick
and Morty in December.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
It's a little heartbreaking,
but we'll see what comes of the comic
book after this.
but let's see you also had a david
schuler did you mention him already so
dave was a friend of mine from college
and um i think we we we said
earlier this comic book is almost finished
we're still waiting for his story which um
The only reason why his story is taking
a little bit longer than we thought it
was going to be is because his wife
just had twins.
Oh, wow.
Congrats to him, man.
That's wild.
Can you imagine what that poor lady went
through?
Right.
So that's why he's very busy at the
moment.
But I...
him confident.
He still had, he,
he's gotten a lot of work done and
I'm very confident that he's going to get
the rest of the story finished like in
the next month or so.
Sounds good to me, man.
I'm excited to get it in my hands
fresh off the presses when it is released.
Now let's talk about the Kickstarter a
little bit.
And, um,
What's it been like for you in running?
I know this isn't your first radio when
it comes to Kickstarters,
but what's it been like for you to
run a Kickstarter?
What are some of the lessons learned from
your perspective?
Oh, God.
I wouldn't even know where to begin.
I do feel like it's getting harder.
I don't know if you ran a Kickstarter
recently,
but
it, it does feel like, you know,
I'll do the same amount of promotion and
get less, um, less of a,
I don't know what the word for it
is less, you know, bang for my buck.
You know, when I,
like it used to be, you know,
I could send out a newsletter and, uh,
you know,
get four or five backers from that.
And now I'm lucky to get like one,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Um,
As far as what all have I learned?
I mean,
the main thing is if you're going into
Kickstarter thinking that people will
gravitate to it on their own,
they're not going to,
you have to be the one doing the
promoting.
Yeah.
Have you dipped your toes into any of
the digital marketing side from Instagram
or Facebook?
I want to say even Kickstarter allows you
to do digital marketing from,
from the platform.
You mean like paid advertising?
Yes, like paid advertisement.
I haven't.
I would like to... Well, okay,
that's not true.
I have done it in the past.
I don't feel as if it's been super
effective.
And I think at least part of that
is because I don't think that I'm very
good at it.
Yeah.
I don't...
It's a weird one.
I wouldn't say that you're not necessarily
good at it.
It's I think,
really putting yourself into it to do it,
I guess is what I'm looking for.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Because I know I've seen other kit
starters who have done the digital
promotion stuff.
And I see their stuff everywhere.
Like I can't get away from it.
It just is there.
So I don't know.
That's definitely something I would look
into.
I mean,
I've not ever run a Kickstarter yet.
That's an announcement for much later down
the road.
But I have a notebook that's compiling
notes right now on a series that I'm
going to be working on.
So that's the bit,
the big advice I would give to people
who want to do Kickstarter.
Um,
just go and take a look at Kickstarters
that you think are successful or maybe
attainable.
Like look at what they did,
maybe even back a few comic books that
you're not that interested in just so that
you can follow along and see like, Oh,
so he did this, this, this, and this.
Um, and like you said, take notes.
Um,
I would also recommend Tyler James.
He has a podcast called Comics Launch.
I wouldn't necessarily recommend...
He also has a paid tutorial that you
can pay extra for to do that.
I wouldn't necessarily recommend that,
but I would recommend listening to his
podcast because I think you learn most of
what you need to know from
from the podcast.
Um, yeah.
So I will say this.
I know, um, Bruno Catarina,
who's been on the show a few times,
he has a free lessons learned or lessons
that he's learned from Kickstarter.
It's now in its second volume.
So if you sign up for Bruno's, um,
what's it called?
His, um, what's his name?
Bruno Catarino.
He's out of the UK,
but he has a monthly newsletter that he
sends out,
and you can go to some of the
back issues of his newsletter,
and he has a link to some lessons
learned in there.
I think he's on volume two now,
and I think he's got a whole lot
of – Do you know his last name?
Yeah, C-A-T-A-R-I-N-O, Catarino.
He's a cat guy too, just like us.
Cool.
I'm always in favor of stuff like that.
People who are doing the work and have
recommendations.
If you want to see a huge and
I do mean a huge Kickstarter I think
it's in the top one percent and it
made like eighty grand on his was Dark
Pink Comics.
with Chris Ford, very successful.
And he did a lot of digital marketing
for his as well.
And another thing I like for kickstarters
to do is give updates.
So once it's been launched,
I enjoy personally seeing the updates of
the comic book kind of like,
how you can have the ability to go
in and post updates and stuff like that
i like seeing those it just gives lets
me know like i know the writers and
the artists are actually working on the
book and it because you hear a lot
of bad stuff come from kickstarter oh you
know like oh they were just there for
money and they didn't produce anything and
that that put a lot of hesitation on
myself when i first started supporting
kickstarters
But thankfully,
I got over that pretty quickly,
and I've worked with a lot of great
people like yourself with Kickstarters and
having them on the show.
It's definitely put me at ease to be
more willing to back indie creators like
yourself.
Sorry, my camera's jostling.
I have to plug my computer in.
Oh, no, you're good, man.
Yeah.
So like I said,
this is not my first Kickstarter.
This is now my – how many have
I done now?
Probably closer to twelfth Kickstarter.
But every other Kickstarter that I've done
has been finished when I put it up
on Kickstarter.
Unfortunately...
And I'll fudge that a little bit.
Sometimes it won't be completely done.
I'll have a little bit of lettering left
to do or something.
This is definitely...
The most work that I've had to do
left on the Kickstarter.
But really... This is...
Like I said,
I do have a history of fulfilling all
of these Kickstarters.
So if you're nervous about the fact that
it's not a hundred percent done, you know,
I just want to say,
don't worry about it.
It's definitely going to get done.
I definitely have confidence in Dave.
Yeah, no, I'm with,
I feel the same way you do now
about that because I've had some comments
that haven't even like,
they're in the very early stages,
but I have a hundred percent faith in
the creator of that,
that comic book that it's going to get
made because you, you,
you can hear it in their voices.
You know that this is their passion
project and they're going to do what they
have to do to make sure it gets
back.
So.
Thank you.
Yeah, man.
Um,
So with that,
before we let you crawl back into the
crypt,
where can people find Memoirs of the
Morbid, the Orange Edition,
and where can they keep up with you
on future releases?
So Memoirs of the Morbid is available on
Kickstarter.
Hopefully you'll put a link somewhere in
the show notes or in the chat.
It's out there already.
I've got it shared across all my platforms
so they can find it easily.
Cool.
As far as me,
if you want to keep on following me,
I have a really distinct name,
Grant Lankard.
The last time I checked,
I'm the only Grant Lankard on any of
the social medias.
So, yeah,
I'm on all the major social medias except
for Twitter because I hated Twitter.
But, yeah, follow me on any of those.
And most importantly, my sub stack.
I do have a sub stack if you
want to follow me there.
Perfect.
But yeah, I have everything linked.
I have your Instagram linked.
I have the Kickstarter linked below all
the posts about Memoirs of the Morbid.
Before I let you go, though,
describe this new volume using one
terrible pun that the Ghoulmaster would
say.
Don't make a grave mistake by missing it.
Love it.
So with that, everybody.
I am going to go ahead and announce
right now.
So if you didn't stay to the end
or if you're listening later on October,
I'm going to have a bonus show that
I did not include on my calendar for
the month.
And I did that because I wanted to
have one last surprise for everybody.
So if you're a fan of cosplay and.
If you're a fan of comic cons,
if you're a fan of zombie movies,
if you're a fan of the old eighties,
be real horror movies like I am that
are just full of the blood and the
guts and the zombies and the fun nostalgic
of those types of movies,
I will have the creators of zombie con.
Volume one live here on the United States
Department of Nerds on thirty October at
seven p.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
We are going to have a blast talking
all things zombie con and how they made
their own indie horror movie on a budget
about the size of your grandma's Lincoln
Cadillac.
So tune in for that one.
You're not going to want to miss it.
Grant,
welcome to the United States Department of
Nerds.
You're now officially a member of the
Council of Nerds.
And with that, everybody,
be good and be safe out there.
And we will see you on the thirtieth.
We are out of here.
Y'all be safe.