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The Conscious Collaboration Podcast brings together entrepreneurs, changemakers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people who embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to aligned mind, body, and business.
Conscious Collaboration brings together entrepreneurs, change makers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people that embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to an aligned mind, body, and business.
Emily:Hi. I'm Lisa. And I'm Emily. And we together make the conscious collaboration podcast. What up, Lisa?
Emily:What up, people? How are we doing?
Lisa:I'm having fun. I feel lifted. Lifted. Yes. After that pre chat.
Emily:That pre chat. I I shook up
Lisa:all the Capricorn, cool tune.
Emily:Yeah. Our little twitch dance.
Lisa:Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Right. Background information is we're not.
Lisa:Twitching for no reason, but twitch, my zoom option was to go live on Twitch, and I have no idea what that is. So
Emily:We just don't know what Twitch is.
Lisa:Yeah. So we thought if we were to go live there, if we're streaming live on Twitch right now, we just demonstrated some twitching so we could fit in.
Emily:Yeah.
Lisa:How are people say hello?
Emily:Yeah. Yeah. We just we just twitch at at at each other. Anyway, that was fun. That was that was a lot of fun.
Emily:But what we are gonna talk about today is not switching related.
Lisa:And it's not fun. No. I'm just kidding. It is fun.
Emily:It's not fun. Well, it's not fun if you think about the concept of it. Well, I was listening to a podcast this morning and, the guest that they were interviewing made made a quote. He said a quote that I really liked, and, that is that hyper preparation or over preparing is a lack of trust in self. And they were actually talking in the context of podcasts, which of course as we always do, I think you can apply this to many, many, many other things.
Emily:But I thought of our podcast immediately, and we're actually kind of demonstrating this just by, you know, literally choosing our topic based off of something that I, that I just heard this morning. And that is that we you know, not to give away our secrets of our process, but, you know, our process is really, off the cuff, you know, largely. And that is what I think, part of, you know, what makes doing this podcast so sustainable for us is that we can really kind of mold ourselves to whatever the energy, whatever the thoughts on top of mind are for the day, by not, you know, over preparing or
Lisa:preparing. Scripting.
Emily:Yeah. Scripting or or preparing. In any way, shape, or form for our podcast.
Lisa:We prepare sometimes.
Emily:So we evidently, you know, really trust ourselves, and and we do. I do. Yeah. We're in terms of this podcast. But I also had the thought, and we didn't even touch on this in our pre chat yet.
Emily:But I I I guess that then that could be true in the opposite for, you know, things that you're not so confident in. Right? And and therein lies our other sort of element to this conversation, which is, the idea of taking in imperfect action even when you are not confident about what it is that you're taking on. So so, yeah, that's that's kind of the Yeah. The idea around today's convo,
Lisa:which is I think it's perfect evolution, just coming out of our conversation with Meredith, last episode. And I know Meredith that she's cooking up her own podcast, and she's been listening to ours and such a great contributor. And she really wanted to sit with us and, learn how we do, what we do, why we do it, and, more of, like, a behind the scenes so she can prep. And, what what really sparked her in our last conversation, Emily, was was when you said imperfect action. It really, like, you know, her shoulders dropped.
Lisa:She, like, seemed to be a lot more relaxed, and she does great talking and normal conversation to anybody. I mean, she definitely goes beyond surface level in conversation. So I think her podcast will be a success, and I think it was a good experience for her because we kind of, like, put her on the spot and said, yeah. You couldn't come watch us. In fact, you're gonna be on the podcast.
Lisa:Mhmm. And I think also, like, in her mind and in a lot of, you know, I'm sure. I mean, not speaking for everybody, but, you know, when we're listening to an expert or a podcast that we enjoy or, you know, something that we aspire to do in our our lives, we tend to put people on a pedestal. And, you know, right wrongfully or rightfully, we can look up to people, but everybody is really, you know, I think rather than putting someone on a pedestal as if, like, what they're doing is not achievable, it's evidence that you can do what you're setting out to do when you put yourself in that, when you can put yourself in the energy of people that are demonstrating what you desire to do. So I think it's really just like you said, it's it feels a lot it's scary to people.
Lisa:And I remember our first couple episodes where we were comfortable, we were pretty, like, silly about it. We're lighthearted. But it's it's a little bit, like, you know, doing something that we're unsure about for the first time is a little bit like bungee jumping.
Emily:Mhmm.
Lisa:And, and, you know, a little bit scary, but that's where you get the most growth.
Emily:Yeah. And I I mean, I think it's just very easy to kinda fall into this when when whatever the task or the the achievement that you're trying to do, has an element of, like, putting yourself out there in some way. Right? Like, putting you you know, if you, if you are an entrepreneur and and you feel like being being a social media presence, and putting out content on social media is necessary for your business, that can be a really big barrier for, you know, a lot of people. Barrier.
Emily:Just as far as, like, just putting the content out there thinking, like, well, who, you know, who am I to talk about this? Who's really gonna wanna listen to this? Oh my god. I look like shit. Like, you know, all the number of things, that could possibly run through your head, and then you just end up with analysis or put what it paralysis by analysis.
Emily:Mhmm. Because you're so busy, you know, thinking and preparing, about what the content's gonna be that you never actually make content. You never actually put it out there, and people don't even know, you know, what it is what it is that you're doing that way. So, there's there's I mean, there's a lot to unpack there and it it's like I said, it can it can be different for different things. Right?
Emily:Like, I, for whatever reason, have no problem, you know, sitting down and chatting with you for this podcast. And I'm I'm sure a big chunk of that is because you and I sit down and have conversations all the time normally. Anyway, that's just a natural thing for us to do. But, you know and I do a lot of this now, and I think I've largely kinda gotten over this. But it it initially, and I'm talking a few years ago, when it would come time to, like, make video content of, like, me talking into a camera and not talking to anybody.
Emily:It was weird. It was so weird and I didn't like it at all. And I would just, like, forget everything I knew when it was time to go on camera. You know?
Lisa:Yeah. Yeah. Remember when we went to the TV studio and made our videos initially? Yeah. And those were scripted.
Lisa:I feel like that was harder because we we scripted ourselves. Yeah. And then, like, having to read a teleprompter, and I don't know. Like, it was a fun experience. I'm, like, glad that you and Michelle were there to read through the scripting.
Lisa:But it's that it takes away it dials back a little bit of the authenticity and, like, I don't know. It feels a little controlling that way. Like, things aren't flowing. Like, I think sometimes even, like, our mess ups are the real gems in what we say in the most memorable. And holding ourselves to a script is like I mean, no matter how many times you read through scripts or how how many times you appear in front of the camera, you're always going to no one else is gonna notice, but you're always gonna mess up.
Emily:Mhmm. And that, you know, I don't think it's just, like, media related. Right? I think you can apply I was also thinking about, like, back in the, you know, nursing school days. Mhmm.
Emily:And you can read all the books you want, listen to all the classroom lectures that you want, even like shadowing, you know, other nurses, which is very necessary, but it is really scary for a while. Not just like the first day. It is scary for a while to actually get in there and touch and talk to human beings. You know what I mean?
Lisa:And and
Emily:and you're kinda like, oh, god. Do I know, like, do
Lisa:I know what I'm doing? Where's my boss?
Emily:It's it's just another another and imperfect action, of course, with something like that is applied a little differently because you can't just go Yeah. Talking about a sick person at the hospital. You can't just go, like fucking do whatever, like, do whatever you want. Well, no. You absolutely can and should.
Emily:Like, you you will never
Lisa:know everything. Can't remember everything. Yeah.
Emily:You can absolutely you can and should always consult resources. I don't care how long you've you've been Yeah. In the profession. But I mean, just to get in there and actually start just start
Lisa:Yeah.
Emily:Start fumbling through it, you know. Mhmm. You you're gonna feel stupid.
Lisa:Yeah.
Emily:You're gonna feel stupid for a while and then you get the reps in and and you just start feeling more and more and more, comfortable with it. And it is. It's it's it's going back to the original quote. It's building trust in yourself. Mhmm.
Lisa:Yeah.
Emily:Mhmm. And trust in yourself, like, in the context of where the quote came from and over preparing for a podcast interview. Like, the guy was saying, you know, he he used to operate in such a way where he would need to know everything about his guest, down to, you know, where they breastfed as a child, is their bank account balanced. Like Right. Yeah.
Emily:Before before they they came on the show. And, you know, and that and that makes sense to me because that does. It demonstrates a lack of trust in yourself to, sorta roll with the punches if things got you know, it's it's it's like you you're wanting to know every possible outcome Yeah. I mean ahead of time.
Lisa:It feels so like I remember I'm thinking back to my first podcast appearances that I was on years before we started ours, And I read that as preparedness, you know, the over preparedness that I was receiving from the host in terms of preinterviewing me and making me fill out forms and sending this very thorough bio, and they're reading everything, about me in in advance. I felt like when I showed up to the podcast, like, am I gonna mess up a question about myself? Like, I felt like I was
Emily:on a, like, a test,
Lisa:and I didn't feel like we really you know, until the last third of the interview, I didn't feel like we really got into a rhythm of trusting each other in the conversation, and I didn't feel like I was really being myself. I felt like it was more of, like, a LinkedIn bio, that I was reciting versus us really getting into the depth of any topic. Like, I think for our podcast, we're really having true conversations and really feeling into, things on a on a deeper level. Like, when we have our guests on, I think we those guests become friends of ours. And, you know, we have these very candid authentic discussions.
Lisa:And we do we do know somewhat about our our guests before we have them on and we do have a connection and a shared interest. And and certainly they understand, you know, our listeners, but we don't know everything about them. A lot of that comes through, through. And a lot of what comes through in our podcast discussions aren't is not shared on their bios or their, releases.
Emily:Well, it's good to have that curiosity when you're when you're interviewing someone, you know, and then you'll come up with more relevant and natural questions kind of on the fly. And you said the word test, which made me think too, like, this doesn't work for tests either. Right?
Lisa:If you if you over prepare. Right?
Emily:And I to be fair, I don't don't hate me for this, but I was always the under the person who, like, really wouldn't prepare for a test. I had to learn differently when I got into nursing school. But, like Right.
Lisa:Through, you
Emily:know, elementary school and high school and stuff, I would just show up and be like, well, I know what I know. So I'm not gonna know anymore. You know? Yeah. And if you, like, you only have the capacity to hold so much information, like, at the front of your brain at any given time.
Emily:So over preparing, really, yes, it's again demonstrates a lack of trust in yourself, a lack of trust that you've absorbed the information you need to absorb. And, I think could could kinda have a counterproductive effect by just stressing you out if nothing else. You know what I mean?
Lisa:Yeah. I mean, I I think it goes back to and this the reason why I'm saying this is because, a meeting tomorrow with somebody that should probably be one of our guests now that I'm saying it out loud. But I'm meeting with someone that I met that's training to do, like, a life coaching, type of thing. So he's testing his his method and everything out with me, and I'm going through the protocols. And I just did this really cool test to help me discern what my 5 most, my 5 most important virtues are.
Lisa:And which is really cool. I'll send it to you because you can it it, like, tests, like, if you could compare, like, for example, my most important virtue, which I never would have identified had I not taken this, is inner harmony. And then health is below that. But what what came out in this went against what I thought my, like, core virtues really were. But over preparation does not fit into my top values of maintaining inner harmony and health.
Lisa:It that goes against that. In fact, you know, it would be really disconcerting for me to be under a lot of undue, like, particular pressure. And in fact, none of my top values, you know, sure. Financial stability is one of mine, but authenticity and compassion, under, you know, I guess you could you could argue being, you know, having a bit of that preparation is important to maintain financial stability.
Emily:Sure.
Lisa:But it's the over preparation is going to bring everything, like, out of balance. So it really does I think, if you think about it, it works against the grain in terms of, like, what a lot of our core values would be?
Emily:It's kind of grasping for a level of control beyond what is reasonable. Mhmm. You know, like, I wanna control. And I I just remembered that we uncovered that Meredith, from last week is a Virgo. She has the same birthday as my daughter.
Emily:So I think if any if anyone were to exemplify the urge to over prepare Yeah. It would be and bless bless your hearts. This is not a hate at all. You know, it's a it's a quality that I I admire, about my my Virgo friends and loved ones because it's it's kind of farther from from the way I show up in life. But that that over preparate.
Emily:I mean, that's kind of their bag.
Lisa:I love it.
Emily:I I They're not plan a, b, c, all the way to z, just in case. Okay. Well, if this doesn't happen, then this and this and this. But, yeah, there there's there's comes a point where that is not serving you or anyone.
Lisa:I think there's a difference between over preparation and, like, a well researched decision. But at some point
Emily:Yes.
Lisa:You're going to just
Emily:play take action.
Lisa:Yeah. You're not gonna pull the trigger. You're just gonna keep you're always gonna find a better better option. I know we talked about it early in our podcast when we were talking about, and I think imperfect action came up at that time too. But, you know, people feel like they're not or you know, and I've I've been there before too, not capable of doing certain things without being, overly schooled at it.
Lisa:So like I need another certification before this and another and another and another. When, you know, when does that stop? Well, like, you may never stop learning. You may never stop seeking certifications, but you can start You
Emily:gotta get yeah. Get started doing the actual thing, whatever it is. Mhmm. This happens in, you know, fitness and yoga all the time too. I can't tell you how many times I've heard somebody say, you know, in in yoga, for example, oh, I just gotta I gotta get a little bit more flexible, then I'll come try a yoga class.
Emily:What? Or, you know, before before I go to the gym, I gotta lose a little weight.
Lisa:Yeah.
Emily:Or fill in the blank, and it's kinda like, no. Right. That's not that's not the deal. Like It goes against the whole philosophy. Never right.
Emily:Well, I mean and at a certain point, it's just self imposed barriers and, you know
Lisa:Lots.
Emily:Yeah. Fear of getting getting started and whatever. But, not not trusting yourself, right, to, complete or to be, quote, unquote, good at and you're you're not gonna be, I mean, unless you're gifted in one area or another.
Lisa:When you start
Emily:something new, you're not gonna be that good at it. That's just the deal. You have to it's that beginner's mind. You have to kinda suck at something before you're good at it.
Lisa:And you're not gonna suck to everybody, guys.
Emily:You're not. You're not. To the person who you you know, there's there's always somebody who is where you were before Mhmm. In the process. So when they see you, right, like, we we could look at, you know, podcasters at this point with millions of subscribers, right, and feel like we haven't done anything.
Emily:But, of course, that's not true. We've had a, like, podcast for 2 years with a ton of content. And then, you you know, the person behind us who is just looking to take that step to get started. So but you only go up in that in that feed when you take imperfect action.
Lisa:Mhmm. Yeah.
Emily:When you are, like,
Lisa:are over prepared, I think it really stifles a lot of creativity and what makes you you when you're just, like it just puts you more into a box. I'm not saying, like, it's great for everyone to be like us and and to be I like to I prefer to say we're or, like, when I'm talking to guests, I'm like, let's have an organic conversation.
Emily:There's a continuum. Yeah. But there's a continuum, and we probably lean more towards the the more spontaneous, lesser prepared end of that continuum most of the time about most things. But, you know, extreme extremes in either direction are generally not what you want. Mhmm.
Emily:You wanna kinda fall somewhere somewhere in the middle, and maybe you can be a more prepared person in the middle and maybe a a more spontaneous person in the middle, but, yeah, over overpreparing is not the move. I used to get so I used to get so irritated in in the beginning of of, all this entrepreneur journey, and and we would have these meetings. And, there were others involved in the meeting who would spend 15 to 20 minutes in the beginning of the meeting planning the agenda for the meeting. And I was like, alright. Could we maybe take this to a 2 or 3 minute, like, here's what we're going over today, and then use the rest of that 20 minutes to actually meet?
Emily:Right. Instead of play to actually talk and, you know, do the things instead of planning exactly what order and for how long. You know, they would they would put exactly how long we were gonna talk about each thing, and it it was so Oh, wow. Yeah. I hated that.
Lisa:Not my it's not my flow. It's not my structure to do that. It's like, I'm I'm cool with an agenda.
Emily:Yeah. Yeah. Agenda is fine. Some I I prefer I prefer something to follow, you know,
Lisa:to wrap
Emily:up of if I'm doing a live training. I want a couple of slides there so that I can keep track of where I am, look at a bullet point, and then talk about that bullet point for a while. Cool. But, like, at a certain point, you know, when we're spending so much time deciding how we're gonna spend our time, it becomes a waste of time.
Lisa:Yeah. Just spinning wheels. Yeah.
Emily:Riddle me that.
Lisa:Yeah. No. It's it's very expensive to have meetings that way. It's just it's a huge waste of time and money and effort that could be going somewhere else.
Emily:Mhmm. Yeah. So, but I think I think that, you know, a lot I'm gonna say a lot of us because, again, there are there are things here and there where I have caught myself in this mode of like, oh, well, let me just let me just learn a little bit more, just read a little bit more or whatever. You know, so I I think we can all, kinda find ourselves in this place about certain things. But, again, it's like we always talk about that moment of self awareness, to to catch yourself and and maybe kinda ask the question like, okay.
Emily:Is that you know, is there an action that I could take right now that could move the needle forward even if it's not
Lisa:Yeah. And I think it's
Emily:perfect thing.
Lisa:There is, like, benefit to, like, loosely planning an agenda, say, to a podcast or to an event or to a Yeah. Yeah. Consultation that you're gonna have or whatever whatever it is that you're setting out, like, to be able to visualize going through the actions, but then have that acceptance that things are probably, actually, never gonna go that way.
Emily:So Mhmm.
Lisa:Just accept that and really, like, be present and flow into the next thing because, you know, just you don't wanna have, like you said, that, analysis paralysis in the moment where you're like, that's not going the way that I want. So what are you gonna do? Like
Emily:Yeah. We've talked about this too before in different episodes about, like, being a flexible planner versus being a rigid planner and how one actually opens up the possibilities, you know, that's the the flexible version, the adaptable version versus being a rigid planner where that actually really limits what you can do because, you know, it's that that attachment, that control factor of it has to go exactly this, like this, like this, like this, or else.
Lisa:Yeah. I mean, it's and it's it can feel scary when you're going outside of what you're expecting, if you're that rigid, and there's no place to hide. It's not like you can absorb into your body and hide from the situation. Like, you need you're in charge of this, like, or you're in camera or you're in front of a client. So, it, I think it's also just a real challenge in, good communication skills and, and I don't know if the right word is like acceptance or vulnerability, but being able to talk at and be a good listener Mhmm.
Lisa:Through situations that are unexpected. I mean, it's, you know, accountability. You need to, we need to, like, as humans, be able to navigate through that, and we will. You know, everybody yeah. We always make it through the other side Just like bungee jumping.
Lisa:I mean, unless you're in an unsafe bungee jumping.
Emily:Have you done a lot of bungee jumping?
Lisa:Just once.
Emily:Yeah. Me too.
Lisa:Yeah. I can't say I'll do it again, but, It
Emily:wasn't like it was like one of those, I can't even remember now if it was indoors or outdoors, but it was like more of a, I wanna say, like, a carnival style one, like, not, like, from a cliff or anything.
Lisa:Oh, yeah. So mine was from a cliff. It was more of, like, a a Tarzan swing where they, like, draw like, you free fall, drop down to the bottom, and it and then it tugs on you, and then you swing forward. So, like, there's oh god. That fear.
Lisa:I don't I don't know. I don't know how people do that on the regular, like, jump out of planes and stuff. Makes my hands sweat. But, I mean, you do come through it okay, and, you know, I guess people do pass out doing that. I've seen that happen.
Lisa:You shouldn't. You shouldn't do that. It's not recommended. It's harder it's harder for them to catch you and bring you to safety.
Emily:Yeah. Because you're just a dead weight at that point.
Lisa:But I've seen I've actually had conversations with people before where they're in so much fear. You know, that fear, fight, what is the response? Fight.
Emily:Fight, flight. Fight. Right. Fight, flight, or fawn.
Lisa:Or fawn. Okay. So thank you. Fawn. And doctor Carlos would be a good person to talk with about this or freeze.
Lisa:I
Emily:think fawning and fawning and freezing are 2 kinda different things.
Lisa:But they're a little they're interrelated. I've been I've had conversations with people that they get to a point where, like, this is not going to their script. So they, like, shut down. Like, they're just vacant and, you know
Emily:I think that's the freeze. Yeah. I think that's more of a freeze. I think fawn is, a little more like, you you acquiesce to whatever Oh, yeah. The the threat is.
Emily:Like, you're like, oh, okay. I'll Yeah. I'll go with you.
Lisa:Just not go along with it.
Emily:I'll go
Lisa:with you into the trunk of that car. It's a good idea.
Emily:Yeah. Yeah. No. But freeze. Like, I just
Lisa:Freeze and, like, withdraw into yourself. And, as a business owner or a thought leader or a change maker, you really can't do that.
Emily:Yeah. Don't do that.
Lisa:Don't do that. It's not recommended. But really, you know, I think you're less likely to get into that space when you're just coming from a place of. Your inner knowing and and like you said, like, you should you showed up the test with, like, I know what I know.
Emily:Mhmm. Trusting yourself to make decisions on the fly when when you inevitably will have to, because you cannot control every factor. And, you know, I mean, you know this goes this way when you're designing a space, like, something is not gonna go as planned. It's always the credenza. It's credenza.
Lisa:Yeah. It's, yeah. I mean, as when in any project, there's, you know and I I'm not Virgo, but I like to have, like, a plan a, b, c. But yeah.
Emily:I mean, you're a designer. You literally have to have a plan. Like, you can and same with, you know, being a trainer. Like, I have to have a plan. There's a plan.
Emily:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Lisa:But it takes, it takes a a lot more of a winding path, I think, than what people realize or even myself. I mean, I think I think if, if a lot of people, you know, they may look at, you know, you, Emily, as a trainer or me as a Feng Shui designer and say, that looks like fun. That looks easy. You know, but I think actually, you know, as with any any anything, once you get into it, you realize, oh my gosh. Like, there's so so many unknowns and can go any which way and, you know, roller coasters within roller coasters.
Emily:Yes. Yes. Well, entrepreneurship, you can count on it. I don't care what the what the industry is. I have to tell
Lisa:you how
Emily:much you love doing it. It ain't gonna be easy.
Lisa:I have to tell you what's inside of my head right now. I don't it might not be it might not resonate with you.
Emily:Let her rip. Let her rip.
Lisa:This is not scripted. So when I was talking about roller coasters within roller coasters and, like, the entrepreneur experience, I was thinking about that. Do you remember, like, in the nineties that romance novelist guy that was on a roller coaster and got hit in the face with a duck? What?
Emily:No. Was it Fabio? Fabio. Yeah. Got hit in the face with a duck?
Lisa:It might it might have been a goose.
Emily:Oh, what? I don't remember that at all. I think a goose on a roller coaster could really fuck somebody up.
Lisa:I think it broke his nose. Oh. It was, you know, unfortunate. It it was photoblast. I kinda
Emily:do have a vague memory of, like, yeah, a very distraught Fabio in that's weird though.
Lisa:Yeah.
Emily:Super weird.
Lisa:Yeah. Yeah. He got photographed with that collision of a duck or a goose is what I'm remembering. But
Emily:I think he's alright now.
Lisa:No. He is fine. I mean, it maybe enhanced his nose because I think in romance novels, like a little character more character of a nose is probably good.
Emily:And when you're on a roller coaster, I think all the fight, flight, or freeze options kinda go out the window. You're just at the mercy of the universe at that point. And if a duck
Lisa:like, oh, you're scared of
Emily:atcha.
Lisa:Are you scared of a roller coaster? Well, we're gonna throw a duck at your face.
Emily:I, I just wanna get the cliff notes on this for for the people right now. I feel like we owe it to them.
Lisa:Yeah. We don't wanna leave you feeling abandoned in the confirmation. So
Emily:Let's see. Fabio hit by let's do Fabio roller coaster. Fabio hit roller coaster. It was a goose.
Lisa:It was a goose.
Emily:Yeah. Fabio hit in the face by a goose
Lisa:Mhmm.
Emily:25 years ago.
Lisa:Oh my gosh. I'm so old. Well, it's weird because I'm You
Emily:did say in the nineties. Okay. It was 1999. Wow. Yeah.
Lisa:So, you know, I feel
Emily:that's still looks you know, he still looks He's fine. Like a pretty boy even with blood all over his face.
Lisa:That's how my intuition works. That's what it caught up in my brain while I was talking.
Emily:Yeah.
Lisa:Which I think is really interesting. I just, had this conversation with someone. I know we gotta be probably wrapping this up. I just had this conversation with someone recently that, you know, I have a lot of visuals that come into my head when I'm talking. Like, I, like, can see, like, full scenarios happening, and it just the human experience is wild to me that there are some people that when they read books or when they talk, they can see pictures.
Lisa:And then there's people that, communicate, and there's there's no inner dialogue. It's probably calm and peaceful in there, I think. But Boring. But so I'm glad we can share this visual of the goose collision with you. But, but I think in any situation, podcasting, interfacing with clients or facing, you know, anything that involves other humans, is remembering that the other person is in that experience, but probably having a very different perspective.
Lisa:Then what you are, so, I think, you know, keeping things simple and true to who you are and maintaining that inner harmony, within yourself is. Really the secret to being able to. Access and get the the depth of things that make you unique or would make you stand out.
Emily:Mhmm. Yeah. And when you when life hits you in the face with a goose, you just keep on being pretty and go forth with blood on your face. You know?
Lisa:Yeah. Or thanks for my noose job.
Emily:The symbolism.
Lisa:You really don't wanna get hit in the face with a goose ever. But
Emily:No. I don't either. But if I mean, I'm sure. Did. We're adaptable enough to, like
Lisa:He was already probably really right. He was already pretty scared on that roller coaster. Can you imagine? Like, you're already
Emily:I mean, but he looks like he's got it together. Even I I was looking at all the Google images, and they all caught him pulling up, you know, on the on the roller coaster. And he wasn't necessarily thrilled about it, but he was like some, like, flowy hair too. Pretty cool. Yeah.
Emily:Yeah. He was
Lisa:probably just like, the hair
Emily:He has an accent. Right? Like, yeah. So I got I don't I'm not even gonna I don't know what he's I
Lisa:don't know. Mom, I'm gonna offend
Emily:a bunch of people. I don't
Lisa:I just remember him being on, like, the cover of all the romance novels my mom and grandmother ever Yeah.
Emily:And Yeah. I think he was on some reality shows too.
Lisa:Possibly. Yeah. Who isn't?
Emily:That was the reaffirmary. That was the heyday of reality shows 1999. I just made that up, but it seems true. Yeah.
Lisa:I think we're all in a reality show right now. We just don't know it.
Emily:Well, I mean, technically, isn't our podcast a reality show? Mhmm. Welcome. Bada bing. Bada boom.
Emily:Roller coasters on roller coasters on roller coasters. It's like inception up in here.
Lisa:It is.
Emily:Geese on geese on geese.
Lisa:Yep. Yep. Alright. That was beautiful. Well said.
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Emily:I thought that was a weird I was like, why are you saying it weird? Friends and friends and so on.
Lisa:Because one day, Emily, someone's gonna take a clip from our podcast and make a cool, like, song.
Emily:Yeah. And if you have that skill and you're already listening, like
Lisa:And if you have the time
Emily:get on that. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm a fan of, like, a rap beat. So Okay.
Emily:Like, I'm talking to whoever
Lisa:Or like Rasta.
Emily:Whoever's gonna do it for us. Yeah. Or yeah. It could be a reggae, like, yeah. Yeah.
Emily:That'd be cool with that.
Lisa:Yeah. K. We welcome that.
Emily:These friends and friends and so on. Oh, wait. I got I'm the jingle person. I gotta make a jingle of it.
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Lisa:Friends.
Emily:And so on. Alright, guys. Talk to y'all in Slack, see if you wanna listen to us
Lisa:again. Yes. Bye. Bye.
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