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What is Popcorn & Plot Holes?
Movies are fun! Movies are awesome! But movies can sometimes be very, very weird... or just plain terrible. In this intersection of fun, awesome, weird and terrible is where Matt, Luciano, Chris and Spencer live and thrive. They'll be watching the latest FACTS (Fantasy, Action, Comic, Thriller, Sci-Fi) movies available on streaming services and sharing their equally awesome, fun, weird and terrible thoughts on them. Welcome to Popcorn & Plot Holes!
Matt (00:00.522)
Hello and welcome to popcorn and bottles.
puberty is rough man
Spencer (00:08.9)
Ha ha ha.
Chris (00:09.882)
sir, we're gonna watch a movie from the 80s!
Matt (00:15.062)
Welcome back to what we are calling Re-Education Month. Some of us might not have been born when this movie came out. I'll let you guess who. We watched the original, 1985 or 86? Yeah, they keep saying 85 in the movie. The 1986 movie, The Highlander.
Spencer (00:27.978)
Yoo hoo!
Spencer (00:34.89)
86.
Chris (00:34.97)
Luciano (00:35.16)
Six.
Chris (00:41.678)
Hmm. The classy brown vehicle.
Luciano (00:41.848)
Clancy Brown vehicle.
Matt (00:43.478)
100 % Mr. Krabs himself.
Spencer (00:45.406)
Mr. Krabs.
Luciano (00:47.123)
HAHAHAHA
Spencer (00:49.366)
SpongeBob!
Chris (00:52.964)
Give me the prize!
Matt (00:56.564)
And we're already off. Yep. That's the Kierken. The Kierken was the inspiration for Mr. Krabs. With me is Luciano.
Luciano (00:56.918)
That's exactly how he sounds in the movie.
Spencer (00:58.898)
in the movie. This is an inspiration.
Luciano (01:02.454)
The Kurgan is Mr. Krabs.
Luciano (01:09.88)
yes.
Matt (01:11.732)
Mm-hmm. Chris?
Chris (01:14.554)
I've gone blind.
Matt (01:17.472)
Spencer.
Spencer (01:18.884)
I am the last one.
Matt (01:21.704)
And me, Matt. Chris, why don't you tell us why Highland?
Chris (01:24.649)
Mm-hmm.
Chris (01:32.078)
Right, so this being Re-Education Month, our viewers, all zero of them, need to absolutely have this on their awareness and radar because it's got everything you freaking need in a sleeper-it-hit throwback from the 80s. Swashbuckling, yeah! Special effects?
Luciano (01:38.412)
You
Matt (01:51.222)
Can you list? Okay, thank you. What?
Spencer (01:51.38)
Good acting?
You
Luciano (01:55.894)
We are going to have words.
Chris (01:58.486)
many words, Sean Connery. then like really and truly, yeah, for me, that was the biggest draw as like a 16 year old. like I stumbled onto this movie thanks to Dragon Ball Z and AMV with princes of the universe, Queens princes of the universe spliced to DBZ films. like, this doesn't, this doesn't, this doesn't make sense. And like the internet was helping me connect the dots. I'm like, what's this? And then
Matt (02:01.92)
That's fair.
Luciano (02:02.103)
Yes.
Luciano (02:25.142)
The internet?
Chris (02:26.522)
The internet was helping me and then the 1995 TV show of Highlander was like gaining momentum. And then I was like, wait a minute, this all goes back to 1986. I check it out I was like, holy shit, this thing is dope as F. Romance and sci-fi and fantasy.
Luciano (02:32.524)
boy.
Spencer (02:43.858)
He said, he said, said, coquedly.
Matt (02:45.2)
he said go clear. I need to, I need to step in here and just.
Luciano (02:46.768)
Very, very coquedly.
Matt (02:53.622)
This movie is 40 years old, so if you watched it, when Chris says stuff like romance, this was the 80s. So we understand. And I don't think those romances even happened in the 80s, but they were allowed to put it on the film.
Chris (02:55.866)
Yes.
Luciano (03:00.382)
Yeah, no. Yeah.
Chris (03:02.394)
80s romance. Yeah.
Luciano (03:08.501)
Hmm.
Spencer (03:08.553)
They happen in 80s movies.
Matt (03:10.726)
So that's a thing.
Luciano (03:12.258)
They got away with a lot more than they would nowadays in this movie.
Matt (03:15.636)
I'm just, they should have, I'm just saying it's the 80s and we're not saying it's cool, we're just saying the 80s were a better time. I mean, no, no, no, no, it's bad, it's bad, don't do it.
Spencer (03:15.826)
than they should have.
Luciano (03:22.898)
Wait what?
Spencer (03:25.61)
What?
Chris (03:27.674)
To my, when I was 16 and I watched this movie from the 80s, was, it was better than, no.
Spencer (03:33.566)
You were born in 1970?
Luciano (03:37.74)
then watch it in the theater.
Chris (03:39.162)
I didn't watch it in 1986 when I stumbled upon it at 16, at the age of 16. I was like, whoa.
Matt (03:43.99)
Spencer, Spencer, not everybody goes to the theater at nine and watches movies. They have no business watching at nine.
Spencer (03:50.346)
Well that sounds like a you problem.
Chris (03:51.736)
Yeah on the sci-fi channel. Yeah
Matt (03:52.896)
What is it? On the sci-fi channel. That's still a thing, who knows. Let's talk about what we liked about this movie. The Highlander, the Clancy Brown 1986 vehicle as we previously discussed. I'm just trying to fill in the words so we don't have to talk about this movie forever. Let's go with Luciano. What a pick.
Luciano (04:10.412)
I'll go first. The best, by far the best thing about this movie is the soundtrack. It's fucking genius. It's not that they got a couple of songs from Queen. They went to Queen and said, hey, please do the soundtrack for this movie. Best decision that the whole fucking production crew made. Amazing throughout.
Chris (04:20.26)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Chris (04:28.088)
Yes, that's what you do.
Luciano (04:34.892)
I had to believe that someone who dresses and thinks and acts like Kurgan listens to Queen is a little bit of a stretcher on my suspension of disbelief, but I'm here for it. Best by far thing.
Matt (04:42.618)
Mm-hmm.
Chris (04:44.98)
I know his name, Freddie Mercury.
Spencer (04:49.471)
This music matched the 80s vibe, but not the movies vibe. Does that make sense?
Matt (04:57.02)
It could have matched the movie's vibe, but they didn't actually use it enough.
Luciano (05:01.816)
I mean Who Wants To Live Forever fits really well, probably the one that fits the best and kind of magic as well, I wish they played more during the movie, but...
Spencer (05:01.865)
I mean...
Spencer (05:06.814)
Like, lyrically.
Spencer (05:13.61)
I mean, when it's like in the friggin 1700s Scotland and it's like, Frantel and Dacnil! I'm like, totally, maybe. 1990. Yeah, I feel like when they made this movie, there's like 44 % of the budget went to Queen and the other 44 % went to Sean Connery.
Chris (05:21.06)
Yeah
Luciano (05:24.042)
Hahaha
Matt (05:24.096)
Hey Spencer, when were you born?
Shut the hell up.
Luciano (05:29.856)
Anyway that
Chris (05:30.394)
Yeah.
Luciano (05:37.587)
Probably.
Chris (05:42.285)
Quite close to the truth, actually.
Luciano (05:43.832)
And 22 % went to the cartoons they made to be the prize at the end.
Spencer (05:50.24)
yeah. Wow. I totally blocked on that. The Fantasia scene.
Luciano (05:51.114)
Yeah. Yes.
Matt (05:51.83)
worth it. worth it. let's find that. no it was definitely worth it. Chris why don't I'll go last. Chris you go last because it's your movie and we'll let you put the cherry on top of whatever the hell this is. I'm gonna go next. good thing right that's what I'm supposed to go with. I think my favorite part of this movie
Chris (05:53.433)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (06:10.411)
Right.
Matt (06:16.822)
I actually enjoyed the final fight scene in terms of like the way it was stylized for the 80s. Like it looked really cool being in that dark room where you can kind of see the shit outline of the guy's sword fighting and stuff. Like obviously the sword fighting, you know, choreography. I don't know if choreography existed in the 80s.
Luciano (06:23.104)
Hmm.
Spencer (06:32.457)
Oof.
Luciano (06:33.116)
Choreography is not the word because that means it was thought of and thought out but
Spencer (06:37.002)
That was planned.
Matt (06:37.207)
Yeah, like I don't think they had anybody helping them learn like to fight and look cool But just the way it looked the way that part was filmed was pretty cool, especially given the 80s where they were at I yield my time Spencer
Luciano (06:41.419)
Yeah.
Spencer (06:51.93)
I actually made a note because this one thing stands high and above everything else in the movie. And that is the on location scenery. The especially in the first act of the movie. That's that's the one thing in this movie that's actually better than like modern movies. I was like, they're standing on a real mountain overlooking the real like cliff sides of Scotland or maybe not Scotland, but somewhere. And it looked fantastic. There's one scene where they're standing
Chris (07:01.274)
Hmm.
Luciano (07:01.564)
yeah.
Matt (07:08.64)
Yes.
Luciano (07:11.661)
Yeah.
Chris (07:13.363)
Yeah
Yeah.
Spencer (07:20.818)
on very small clip and you can tell they're really trying not to lose their footing and they're barely touching swords because you can tell they're like, someone will die here. There's no safety precautions. Yeah, exactly.
Luciano (07:25.08)
Yeah.
Luciano (07:29.355)
Yeah.
Matt (07:30.712)
We are not as it turns out immortal.
Luciano (07:33.45)
Hahaha!
Chris (07:34.372)
Can you imagine the trading scene like when like when Connor finally learns to like disarm him and Ramirez the sword goes barreling down the mountain? What kind of fucking conversation did they have? And it was like, what have you done? I've trained you, I've prepared you and this is how you repay me.
Luciano (07:42.389)
Yeah.
Spencer (07:42.57)
Yeah.
Spencer (07:46.7)
fuck.
Luciano (07:52.364)
Yeah, like this.
Spencer (07:52.458)
I expected him to jump off after it.
Chris (07:56.794)
That's the fastest way, really and truly, but anyways.
Spencer (07:58.737)
I thought-
Luciano (07:58.794)
I expected him to tell, you threw it, you go fuck him, just toss him out the fucking mountain. Yeah.
Chris (08:03.399)
Yeah.
Spencer (08:04.156)
You threw it, you go get it, you sexy munt man. You sexy beast of a man. Trigger warning for Sean Connery, bad impressions.
Matt (08:10.614)
Thank you. Not great. Okay, so that's Spencer. Actually, Chris, before we go, we have a special guest who wants to tell you about his favorite part of the movie. Chris, they're for Lambert. Are you here?
Chris (08:10.827)
Yeah.
Luciano (08:14.859)
Yes.
Chris (08:21.622)
Mmm.
Mm.
Spencer (08:27.754)
Hello. It's good to be here. Ha ha.
Luciano (08:28.918)
Hahaha!
Spencer (08:33.78)
First time, long time.
Chris (08:36.218)
We got him on the call!
Spencer (08:37.982)
Did you all enjoy my film, The Highlander?
Chris (08:43.062)
I it two and a half times to get ready for this.
Luciano (08:45.116)
You know what the best part is? Spencer is nailing the wandering accent.
Matt (08:51.392)
Perfectly. A little crisp stuff. Well, sprinkle it in.
Spencer (08:54.78)
Listen you absolute fools. You do not make fun of Christopher Lampert. I am the last one.
Luciano (09:01.982)
I'd like to walk you home, Brenda.
Spencer (09:04.586)
I'd like to walk you home and see your room. I'd like to brush your hair and smell you.
Chris (09:04.698)
You must leave her brother
Matt (09:05.184)
Hahaha.
Was that your favorite part, Christopher? god.
Luciano (09:10.744)
Yeah, I'd like to brush your teeth.
Matt (09:17.05)
You
Luciano (09:18.636)
Ugh.
Spencer (09:18.94)
I noticed you had a gun. Please stab me and then I'll stab you back.
Matt (09:21.844)
Ha ha ha.
Chris (09:22.81)
You must de-rehumanize yourself.
Luciano (09:25.453)
Yeah
Luciano (09:29.432)
My friendly Egyptian men.
Spencer (09:30.314)
Thank you Juan Ramirez, my pendejo. My Egyptian pendejo.
Chris (09:33.132)
I am also Egyptian.
Matt (09:34.855)
Bye.
Luciano (09:40.833)
HAHAHAHA
Chris (09:41.114)
I've tried haggish and I have to say, not a fan.
Spencer (09:43.556)
Luciano (09:46.828)
man, I have to say the most surreal experience I had in this movie was watching Sean Connery ask with the most Scottish accent ever, what a shuggish and then Christopher Lambert with the least Scottish accent ever tried to explain to him. I was like, what am I watching?
Spencer (09:58.73)
What traggers?
Matt (10:00.295)
Yeah
Spencer (10:07.946)
Haggis' intestine. Well, of course you eat it.
Luciano (10:14.2)
It was so fucking surreal. That whole, I was like, how can, how can someone have shocked the scene and went, no, yeah, that's the one. Let's go.
Chris (10:14.698)
revolting.
Spencer (10:21.704)
You silly, Spanish Egyptian bastard.
Matt (10:24.31)
Thanks.
Luciano (10:24.856)
I'm not Spanish, I'm Egyptian.
Matt (10:30.198)
Thanks Christopher, that was great. Go away.
Chris (10:30.296)
Mm-hmm.
Spencer (10:32.116)
Thank you for having me. I will sit back and listen and potentially jump in if I feel so inclined.
Luciano (10:37.401)
god.
Chris (10:37.624)
Hahaha!
Matt (10:40.086)
Great. That'll be just the best for everybody. Chris, regular podcast member, Chris, what was your favorite part of this movie?
Chris (10:45.732)
Yeah. Yes. 16 year old Chris, his favorite moment was when Ramirez was facing off against Kurgan. And then like, like my first time seeing it was like, Holy moly, like Ramirez might make it out of this alive. And then Ramirez is like, just as they go up the steps and Ramirez is like, boom in the, like, he's like, boom in the chest. he's like, yeah, it hurts. Yes. And I was like, get him Sean, get him. But then we know whatever.
Luciano (11:09.47)
Sean!
Chris (11:11.866)
Don't question 16 year old Chris. I was like, get him shot. Cause like James Bond. And then current day Chris, my favorite part is actually also the final scene. Like waiting to see Kurgan get his comeuppance, do after all that damage. I'm like, honestly, after watching all of Connor's friends and all the people across his lifespan, like he had a bond with Castaguerre. I wanted Kurgan to get F'd up. And so,
Spencer (11:12.891)
Hahaha
Chris (11:40.986)
And then the music swells and then they're facing off. then like, as soon as Brenda comes in and like buys him that moment to, it's like grab a sword and go back at it again. I'm like, this is, this is like the eighties moment where everything comes together and then you get that payoff and the prize honestly, wasn't as the prize itself. Like when he gets it, it wasn't as exciting as everything between the fight. And then when Connor go, like, when you get the camera swooping and there can be only one, that was it.
That's the cut. Well, not yes, yes, that. Yeah.
Luciano (12:11.04)
Here we are! We're the princesses of the... Yeah. Like I said, the soundtrack is amazing.
Matt (12:18.614)
Great. I have a follow-up question, Chris. What do you think of the prize for winning the gathering? being the only one...
Chris (12:18.669)
Yeah, man.
Chris (12:28.164)
Mm-hmm.
Chris (12:31.63)
The last one's down, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you get to age, you can have children, and then you can read the thoughts. You could read the thoughts of any person on the planet.
Matt (12:32.842)
may stand. That's what it is,
Chris (12:44.248)
think that's pretty cool. But at the same time, like, you know you're going to age, but I feel like it'd still be kind of cool if you could, if you could opt in or out, like, do you still, like, you've lived, if you've lived for centuries and now you can have kids, now you have this extra ability, what if you, what if you're so used to being an immortal and you want to stay that way? Or do you choose to become immortal with these abilities?
It would have been interesting to have modifications as the one that you won the prize, but I guess you can't really, you can't really choose, right? So the prize on paper, cool. Cause that's what so many of them wanted, right? Like, like, like Connor wanted to be with his first wife. He, he, he, a lot of them want love and, and, and, and that have some degree of sanity and morals about them to create families and stuff. So I think it's pretty cool.
Spencer (13:40.616)
The real prize was the coke I did with Clancy Brown in our trailer.
Chris (13:44.186)
It's better to burn out than to FAY AWAY! Coquitly!
Luciano (13:44.374)
Hahaha!
Spencer (13:52.83)
We bought it off Sean Connery.
Luciano (13:55.574)
Yes, Scottish, I mean Egyptian cocaine is the best one.
Chris (13:55.683)
Yes! It's the best!
Spencer (14:00.042)
you
Hey
Chris (14:05.186)
We call it booger sugar.
Matt (14:08.882)
Okay, great job. It was very funny. Let's ask a different question entirely.
Chris (14:15.194)
New question.
Matt (14:17.31)
New question. that okay? Different question.
Chris (14:19.598)
Different question.
Matt (14:23.67)
I'll let Chris finish pouring his water.
Chris (14:25.788)
you can hear that? My bad. My bad, coquedly.
Luciano (14:26.668)
Yes we can!
Matt (14:30.034)
Yeah, okay, versus water, pouring is done.
I don't know where to start with this movie. Let's... It's... So many things with this movie. Let's just talk about The Highlander in general. The idea, I think, is one of my favorite ideas in terms of a sci-fi or fantasy movie. The idea that these immortals fight and only one of them will win at the end of it. Sounds really fun. And... I don't know how to unpack the 1986 of this all.
Luciano (14:38.806)
Yes.
Luciano (15:00.012)
Yeah.
Chris (15:06.298)
Hmm.
Luciano (15:06.358)
Yeah, like so without going too far into the weeds of the explanation of things, but like back home, like in Brazil, where I watched this the first time many times that I watched this when I was young, this was like we didn't have cable until like the beginning of the 90s. So this was on public TV. Sometimes you turn on, you get it in the middle. So like I watched this movie maybe 12 times from different places and I used to love this movie and
Chris (15:36.332)
used to.
Luciano (15:37.11)
before Chris made me watch it again. I was like, this is one of the greatest action movies of all time. I realized that this movie, watching this movie, I broke a rule that actually became sort of... Well, so we all know that we can't really watch movies that we liked as kids. It's kind of something that people know, but there's a thing in Brazil called the Rule of 15.
Spencer (15:44.765)
Oh-ho!
Matt (15:53.93)
You didn't know existed until you broke it.
Luciano (16:05.782)
which is if you watched a movie before when you were 15 or younger and you love it, don't watch it again, you're going to ruin it. And this movie is probably for me, the poster child of that role. Because if you had asked me before I watched it again this week, I would have said, no, it's great. The acting other than Christopher Lambert is great. The special effects are probably dated, but they're fine. The story is cohesive. now,
I feel like this is one of those movies that were they were sort of dated from the moment they came out because of the aesthetics, the like we didn't care back then, right? Like at least I don't remember caring too much about, this special effect doesn't make any sense. I don't understand why walls are exploding when they're hitting them with swords. I don't care. It's cool. Right. So
I think this is a very roundabout way of answering a little bit of your question, Matt, which I think is the 80s of it all is the problem with this movie now. It's 280s. You know what I mean?
Matt (17:16.196)
Yeah.
Yes, it's like at some point I feel like people try to make movies that would be a little bit more timeless through their approach. And this movie is just like, we're making a movie. And so this is it's the eighties and here you are. and it's. Yeah.
Luciano (17:26.496)
Yeah.
Luciano (17:33.836)
This is what you get, right?
Spencer (17:36.746)
I'm trying to see if like, I'm looking at movies from when I was 15 in 2005 that came in theaters to see if they'd hold up. yeah, I don't know if I'd still love Get Rich or Die Tryin'.
Chris (17:36.932)
Take it and go.
Luciano (17:41.153)
Right.
Matt (17:43.264)
Jesus.
Luciano (17:49.24)
you don't have to go that far. Like you probably watched it maybe earlier, but like the 2001, the 2001 Tomb Raider there. Yeah.
Matt (17:49.942)
You
Spencer (17:51.018)
I'm just thinking of movies I know out. No, it came out that year.
Chris (18:00.154)
Eww.
Spencer (18:01.034)
You your fucking mouth. You watch your goddamn fucking mouth. You keep Angeloni Jo- Angelonis. You keep Angeloni Jo lies. You keep her her pepperonis, Eddie. Goddamn mouth.
Matt (18:02.216)
Well, but let's talk about a movie.
Luciano (18:08.347)
Angelo!
Chris (18:08.622)
Yes, Angeloanies at the least. Angeloanies. You know.
Luciano (18:15.953)
Angelo... Angelo-ness.
Matt (18:20.726)
No, but even you look at a movie like The Matrix, which was in 1999, you know, there are some things where you're like, it's very, there are some 1999 things about it, but it still is a story that kind of transcends that even, you know, like even though, like it's, it's, it's a alt universe as much as it's a future movie. So it helps separate it, right? Yeah. I just, yeah. Yeah. So let's just hold up that I don't know if it's cause they got into the nineties, but
Chris (18:23.29)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (18:24.706)
Yeah.
Luciano (18:29.651)
very much so,
Luciano (18:36.727)
Yeah.
Luciano (18:42.936)
Terminator 2, right? It's 92, right?
Luciano (18:50.795)
Hahaha.
Matt (18:50.916)
It's interesting that like the 80s just didn't give a fuck.
Luciano (18:54.136)
They were. Cokedly.
Spencer (18:54.634)
They were doing their thing.
Listen, I don't know if Star Wars Revenge of the Sith holds up.
Luciano (19:03.166)
It does not. No, it does not.
Matt (19:04.158)
Revenge of the Sith? Which one was that?
Spencer (19:05.598)
Yeah, the third and sixth.
Luciano (19:08.6)
Yeah, 2003? No, wait, 2005? 2006? Yeah. Yeah. It does not hold up. Yeah.
Spencer (19:12.202)
2005, that's what saying, when I was 15 I saw it.
Matt (19:18.154)
Let's guess that we were sh- Yeah, That's be sucked now because it doesn't hold up.
Spencer (19:18.282)
It didn't hold up then either. That we did Hey Joe.
Luciano (19:22.296)
That one you can't blame on the age.
Chris (19:25.466)
That movie didn't need 2005 to suck.
Luciano (19:28.446)
Yeah. Return of the Jedi didn't need to wait 15 years to suck either, but yeah.
Matt (19:28.468)
Yeah.
Spencer (19:28.859)
Yeah, that's fair.
Spencer (19:33.994)
at walk. You keep Luke Skyroni's name at your goddamn mouth.
Chris (19:35.308)
CHOWS EVERYONE!
Luciano (19:39.608)
Like Skull Rocket.
Matt (19:39.646)
Yeah.
Chris (19:45.529)
Gibroni.
Matt (19:46.758)
can I ask some questions about forensics in the eighties?
Luciano (19:46.934)
Hahaha!
Luciano (19:52.093)
no. You should. You should.
Chris (19:52.346)
You can and should. Yes.
Spencer (19:57.482)
Yes.
Matt (19:58.24)
How forensics, who forensics, where forensics, when forensics, why forensics? I was willing to accept that when the guy came in and he had a little bit of like sword shavings in a baggie or something. I was like, okay, maybe. But.
Luciano (19:59.984)
forensics yeah what forensics really yeah
Luciano (20:14.464)
Yeah. Yeah.
Spencer (20:18.59)
That wasn't the first baggy we had on set, I'll tell you. I remember asking Sean Connery for, we were hunting for the white october.
Luciano (20:21.189)
Hahaha!
Matt (20:21.482)
Thanks Chris. Yeah. Okay, great.
Chris (20:26.336)
Yes!
Matt (20:26.718)
I'm sorry.
Luciano (20:26.776)
It's yesh and you found it.
Matt (20:30.302)
Hey did that movie come up before this one or after?
Spencer (20:32.594)
I said, give me the rock.
Matt (20:36.131)
That's a much better reference.
Chris (20:36.73)
And then I said, pass the duchy to the left hand shy.
Spencer (20:37.737)
You
Luciano (20:43.285)
Okay.
Spencer (20:43.388)
I said, I want my cocaine shaken and stirred in a bag.
Luciano (20:46.154)
My cocaine, I'm here. Someone, does someone call me? Anyway.
Chris (20:52.698)
Gibroni.
Luciano (20:56.994)
So what you were saying about this, the shavings of the sword, man.
Matt (21:01.366)
Yeah, they put it in like a jar in a computer. The computer is like, this is metal has been folded 2000 times from 200 times from like 2000 years ago. I don't think that's how it works.
Chris (21:01.658)
Forensics.
Chris (21:07.392)
Beep, beep,
Luciano (21:07.928)
200 times, yeah.
Luciano (21:12.138)
And she goes back and she pulls like a fucking dagger out of that wall, like half a sword.
Spencer (21:18.922)
You don't think they have ancient sword metallurgy databases in their police computers?
Matt (21:20.649)
Yeah.
Chris (21:24.888)
Hmm, I mean that's her major she wrote a Bible on it
Matt (21:25.823)
I don't think that-
I don't think that printer could analyze that metal.
Luciano (21:31.614)
Yeah. man, that matrix printer.
Spencer (21:35.58)
Remember when it matched all the fonts? That was cool.
Luciano (21:38.296)
Yeah, in the computer lab. It was like, select all capital letters.
Chris (21:39.896)
Do do do
Spencer (21:43.518)
I actually appreciated that visualization of.
Chris (21:46.052)
True.
Spencer (21:48.784)
Yeah
Chris (21:48.814)
Mm-hmm.
Wow, the typography on this. This is top-notch, Chief!
Spencer (21:52.234)
sorry.
I like how he sees six signatures and he's like, this man is immortal. That's all the evidence he needed.
Matt (21:59.672)
Yeah.
Luciano (21:59.988)
Yeah, what this means is the same man has been selling his property to deceased children since the 1970s, since the 1700s. Like, the fuck? Does he have does he have a Scottish lilt? No, a French one. OK, that makes sense.
Spencer (22:08.042)
and stealing their identity. He probably goes by Connor McLeod.
Matt (22:14.91)
If I had to guess.
Spencer (22:17.578)
If I had to guess.
Chris (22:20.57)
Do you think he could get me a discount on my car insurance, Brenda?
Luciano (22:24.994)
You
Spencer (22:27.722)
Too far.
Luciano (22:28.662)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's stuck it. He's stuck. He's stuck three jokes ago, so it's okay.
Matt (22:28.787)
I don't get it.
Chris (22:29.924)
Gecko! Gibroni.
Spencer (22:30.762)
Geico's the punchline. Geico's always the punchline.
Matt (22:35.19)
Fair enough.
That's fine. Yeah, so like, you know, I keep going back to the 80s-ness of it because like I feel I want to like this movie so much and it's just...
Spencer (22:46.111)
this movie is...
Luciano (22:48.716)
Yeah, I used to like this movie so much.
Spencer (22:50.062)
This is how you know the movies, the eighties. This movie opens with a old 40 year old hairy man wearing the Confederate flag stripping while a 10 year old girl licks her lips. And I was like, okay, we are in a different time and we're off. Yeah, that was how I knew we were in a time capsule. Like literally I was like,
Matt (23:02.027)
Yeah.
Luciano (23:02.091)
Yeah?
Yeah, it's not a good sign. Yeah.
Matt (23:10.483)
We're off
Spencer (23:19.626)
Am I? What movie is this? I've never seen this movie. I was like, that this was about fucking like Scottish swordsman. I'm like, what the fuck?
Luciano (23:21.651)
Hahaha!
Luciano (23:28.766)
and we all watch the directors cut, right? Yeah.
Matt (23:28.822)
I mean, it got there.
Spencer (23:32.49)
The director's cut, yeah. We needed more.
Matt (23:33.664)
Yeah, we didn't need more. So, so much more.
Spencer (23:37.64)
I'm dying to know what was cut out.
Matt (23:39.83)
Everything. All of the pieces that connect the story in a meaningful way, I would assume.
Spencer (23:45.864)
No, this is the director's cut, there should be more in this!
Luciano (23:45.984)
so just like the directors cut.
Chris (23:49.594)
You have to get about the theatrical cut, what was in the theatrical cut,
Spencer (23:52.766)
Yeah, like what was cut for the theatrical was cut. Do think they had this stripping Confederate flag wearing wrestler?
Matt (23:59.838)
Yeah, you have to have that. That's the tone of the movie. I think they cut out.
Luciano (24:01.72)
Do you think they cut some of Fazl's backflips maybe? Not if they know what they're doing.
Spencer (24:01.772)
That is essential. That's the theme.
Chris (24:02.222)
Yeah, that was in it.
Matt (24:08.104)
Also important.
Chris (24:08.196)
They kept that. They kept that.
Spencer (24:09.03)
Not if they're- not if they're- not if they're- not if know what the fuck they're doing!
Chris (24:12.324)
There was more, there were more backflips in the theatrical cut. Fizil, Fizil? Fizil, yeah, he was a gymnast and a scholar. Yeah.
Luciano (24:19.623)
Fasio, yeah.
Spencer (24:22.127)
seal
Luciano (24:23.224)
That whole fight is the most... That whole fight was when I realized, I was like, uh-oh, my nostalgic goggles are not gonna... Yeah, exactly.
Matt (24:24.758)
Faisal?
Chris (24:28.078)
Geico?
Mm.
Spencer (24:33.066)
You're like this is not how my brain remembers this scene I picture like them fucking like jumping off the walls fucking dude sick
Chris (24:38.404)
He's like, zhoop, McCloud.
Luciano (24:41.248)
Like the worst thing for me is like how they kept disappearing. Like you swing and disappear. Like there's one scene where the sprinklers come on for no reason and then Fezzle tries to hit McCloud and he ducks and disappears and then he appears fucking on the other side of the parking lot. Yeah, like running. It's like what the fuck is happening? Yeah.
Chris (24:46.275)
Yeah.
Chris (25:00.674)
Yeah. Yeet!
Spencer (25:00.842)
They didn't play that goes back to the choreography thing let's get a shot of you behind them
Luciano (25:08.32)
Yeah, they were just like, hey, you got you guys fight. Just go, go with it.
Chris (25:12.708)
Yeah. You start over there.
Spencer (25:14.218)
It's like, one of the actors left for lunch. there he is. He's coming back.
Matt (25:18.518)
Okay.
Chris (25:18.882)
Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, Lambert, you and Fazil just figure it out. I'll be over here. The camera's rolling.
Matt (25:29.206)
Don't stop the cameras. Never stop the cameras.
Luciano (25:31.19)
Yeah, never stop the cameras. Yeah.
Chris (25:32.858)
No, nope.
Spencer (25:34.187)
What did you say? Sorry, me and Clancy Brown were taking a ride through the winter wonderland. Or as we call it in my country, sprickin' touch. What country? No one knows.
Matt (25:36.15)
Sorry,
Luciano (25:40.376)
Yeah.
Chris (25:40.538)
Save some for me! You disgusting haggish! Save some!
Luciano (25:51.85)
No one knows because every I I honestly thought he was Belgian, but he's not He's french french american Yeah, actually one of
Chris (25:52.506)
You
Matt (25:53.172)
Yes.
Yeah, he's like, he's just a mix, just a much.
Spencer (26:02.024)
I don't care what you say, this is not a French accent.
Luciano (26:05.016)
I want to actually find an interview with Christopher Lambert speaking French because I'm sure he has a fucked up accent in French too.
Matt (26:13.823)
Night.
Spencer (26:14.437)
here you go. Bonjour. Je m'appelle Christopher Lampert.
Luciano (26:17.196)
Tabernak! Tabernak!
Matt (26:17.958)
Hahaha.
You know, somehow, somehow I believe it.
Luciano (26:23.124)
Yeah, I can see that. I can see that.
Spencer (26:25.668)
Java cocaine.
Luciano (26:27.768)
You
Chris (26:30.092)
OOELLAAAA BIBLIOTEC
Luciano (26:31.351)
Yeah
Matt (26:34.986)
That almost went Spanish there, very close.
Spencer (26:36.618)
Bibliotheca.
Luciano (26:36.682)
Yeah, I did. You almost did a Connery impression there. Wow, you're... You are such a pendejo.
Chris (26:37.37)
Did it? Yes, ooh, a little bit of a little tick.
Mmm!
Spencer (26:46.354)
Yeah, hearing him, hearing him speak French is like hearing Sean Connery speak Spanish.
Luciano (26:51.554)
Yeah, yes, yes it is.
Matt (26:53.376)
Bang on. I think it's now time to steer into, I'm gonna steer into our plot holes here because you're all lost in doing impressions just slightly. And hopefully this will bring you back to a point where you can use the impressions meaningfully.
Spencer (26:54.12)
She.
Spencer (26:57.451)
Seek it, p-pandejo.
Luciano (27:01.698)
Okay.
Spencer (27:09.482)
Okay, there's more parts of the movie I want to discuss.
Chris (27:11.896)
Let the man cook! Spencer, let the man cook, Spencer!
Matt (27:15.478)
I mean, if you wanted to spend more time talking about other parts of this movie, you should have spent less time pretending to be Cocaine as Christopher Lambert.
Spencer (27:16.131)
Bye!
Spencer (27:20.682)
No You shut your whore mouth I just want to point out I don't know if anyone else there's one scene me I just wanted to say because I meant to this earlier There are so many scenes of this movie that made me laugh Like like out loud laughing alone like I watched it alone and I was laughing out loud which doesn't happen even when I watch comedies There's one scene that when he's fighting Sean Connor Christopher Lambert's fighting Sean Connery and Sean Connery's training him and chunkers beating him up
Luciano (27:26.213)
Ha
Chris (27:26.529)
Wow.
Luciano (27:34.869)
yeah.
Chris (27:48.09)
Training? Yeah. Yeah.
Spencer (27:50.664)
And then his wife is laughing at him. And then he goes like, Heather, please. And it's so genuine. Like, he's like, like it was like a lighthearted scene where they're like, everyone's laughing. It's like a good time. He's like, Heather, please. And he's like, borderline tears. And I was laughing so hard at that scene. It was like, like a comedic cut. Sorry. I just wanted to bring up that scene in particular. Cause that, if I didn't say the scenery, that was my favorite scene of the movie.
Luciano (27:56.106)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Heather, please.
Matt (27:59.497)
Yeah
Luciano (28:06.038)
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris (28:06.616)
Yeah.
Matt (28:20.234)
That's, that is the best acting Christopher Lambert did in the entire movie. As a matter of fact, it's very believable.
Spencer (28:23.434)
They're like, Christopher, this is a playful scene. We're all having fun here. He's sort of like messing with you and your wife's laugh. And he's like, I got it. Heather, please, please.
Luciano (28:23.991)
In the whole movie,
Luciano (28:31.928)
Please!
Chris (28:32.495)
Hmm.
Cinema Christopher's cinema
Matt (28:40.63)
Thank you. Okay.
Spencer (28:40.964)
That and when they jump cut to the old lady on the hood of the car.
Chris (28:44.866)
Mom! love that!
Luciano (28:48.236)
Yeah. are the backflip where he drops the sword, does a backflip and picks it up again? Hazel? Yeah. I laughed. I I, I rewound that scene like a couple of times. I was like, where is the sword? he picks it. Why did, he drops it. my God. What is happening? Yeah. It's not, it's not called that. And.
Spencer (28:55.898)
I mean, there's so many golden moments. They're hard to break into.
Spencer (29:09.61)
called choreography.
Chris (29:13.348)
Work! Work, Fasile, work!
Luciano (29:16.104)
Anyway, Matt, you want to talk about platholes?
Matt (29:18.323)
Nah, I'm good.
Spencer (29:20.522)
Apologies. That part gave me too much joy to not bring up, so I yield my time. Matt, please! Matt! Please! Please!
Chris (29:20.612)
Hmm.
Matt (29:20.886)
We don't need to, we're fine.
Luciano (29:22.232)
We don't have to.
Luciano (29:28.788)
Matt, please!
Matt (29:32.81)
Do it like Christopher Leverett.
Chris (29:35.19)
Matt, please! Please!
Luciano (29:35.697)
Matt, please!
Matt (29:37.45)
Thank you. Let's talk about plot holes.
Luciano (29:41.88)
Ha ha ha!
Matt (29:43.548)
We had two, I think, that are pretty obvious. One is pretty big. I don't know a better way to term it than it's the rules of being an immortal in a, you know, kill each other to the death competition. Because they kind of, they give us a high level overview of, yeah, you all fight and chop each other's heads off and then, you know.
Luciano (29:46.946)
Okay.
Luciano (30:02.402)
Right.
Matt (30:10.454)
The last one wins the ultimate prize and as you kill him you get more power. That's all fine, but inside of that so many things happen that make me ask many questions such as how other people know that you're an immortal and like from far away. Like Ramirez like was on a quest to find Kahnema Cloud for some reason and just I guess or Egypt where he's from.
Luciano (30:35.402)
I felt it all the way from Spain or Egypt, wherever it was. Yeah.
Matt (30:39.892)
And then we also have the K-Kurgan who just shows up at a battlefield to fight the McCloud and is like, don't kill Connor McCloud. Yeah, he was there.
Luciano (30:44.056)
Specifically, right? Yeah, yeah.
Spencer (30:45.886)
No, he specifically says
boy is mine. The boy being a 35 year old man. Leave the boy to me. I guarantee you, Leaver was older than Clancy Brown at the time.
Matt (30:50.923)
Yeah.
Luciano (30:53.43)
Hahaha!
Matt (30:54.774)
who look the same age as everyone else. Yeah.
Luciano (30:58.948)
He was... he said... they say he's 18 when he's... yeah, because he's going to his first battle. The cousins ask him, are you scared? Are you scared? I'm not, I'm not. He's like, yeah, I remember when I was 18, I went to my first battle. I was scared shitless, blah, blah, blah. They do say that.
Spencer (31:04.106)
What? So he's, he's immortally 18.
Matt (31:05.718)
sure. That's right.
Matt (31:20.48)
Well, Spencer, Spencer, you bring up, Luciano's right, that's how we know he's 18, but you bring up a good point. And this is another thing I don't understand about the powers. And you kinda gotta explain it a little bit, because when do you stop aging as an immortal? Because John Connery is old as hell.
Luciano (31:34.268)
Yeah, is it the first time you die?
Spencer (31:38.004)
That's true!
Chris (31:39.51)
The real ad-
Luciano (31:41.336)
Don't come here with fandom.com, Chris. We don't want that.
Matt (31:41.758)
What, was it in the movie?
Spencer (31:45.994)
Don't come with Lander High Wiki. Highlander Wikipedia. Wookiepedia.
Luciano (31:48.95)
High lend, high lender weekend. Yeah. Yeah. no.
Matt (31:51.539)
Yeah.
Chris (31:53.21)
actually, you're, you're, the immortality triggers when you first die. So in Ramirez's case, like that was his age when he died and became an immortal. So that's when it, that's what it is.
Luciano (31:59.607)
Yeah.
Matt (32:04.874)
You know, that retconning wasn't good enough for fucking Star Wars bringing the Emperor back and it's not good enough here.
Luciano (32:10.144)
Yeah.
Spencer (32:11.122)
And secondly, then you'd see a lot more old fucking Highlanders because most of them don't die when they're fucking 20 on the average of people's deaths.
Matt (32:22.558)
Well, I mean, back in the day, probably died pretty early because of all the things that want to kill you like dinosaurs and dysentery and pretty much all the dangerous D's, if you will.
Spencer (32:28.97)
Yes!
Chris (32:29.37)
Diphtheria, Oregon Trail.
Luciano (32:31.096)
Yeah, like cholera, cholera, war, dinosaurs. Yeah.
Spencer (32:33.052)
Raptors
Chris (32:36.452)
The dangerous D's. Dwayne Johnson. Jabroni.
Matt (32:40.82)
Yeah. Yeah.
Spencer (32:43.038)
Digimon. They're the worst.
Matt (32:44.694)
Yeah.
Luciano (32:45.688)
Also, do they ever say in the movie that when you kill someone you get more powerful? Because I don't remember them saying it in the movie.
Spencer (32:55.838)
That actually was a- yeah, I wanted to ask that. What exactly is happening when they kill one of them?
Chris (32:56.036)
That's what he-
Luciano (33:00.67)
It looks like they're like getting electrocuted by power, but
Matt (33:03.946)
What is-
Spencer (33:04.01)
It looks like Jet Li's the one situation.
Luciano (33:07.617)
Yeah.
Matt (33:07.978)
Well, mean, yeah. Is so but is that the quickening? That's also my question.
Spencer (33:11.912)
What's the quickening? He just said this is the quickening. I thought the quickening was jumping off a cliff in the water. my God. What is this? Wookie wookie pedia.
Matt (33:16.532)
They ran across the beach and jumped off a cliff and that was the quick ending.
Chris (33:21.294)
Yeah, the quickening is two things. It's the weird, keep saying it. The funny part, the funny thing is, that Connery, or rather, yes, Ramirez, his explanation on the beach when he's like, you could connect all living things. In Highlander No More, they never talk about that again. Like they ignore it. But the quick.
Luciano (33:27.48)
It's the Hagaspedia.
Luciano (33:40.577)
Yep.
Matt (33:41.782)
What is this Highlander lore stuff?
Spencer (33:44.638)
What? Now I know why he picked this movie, he wrote it!
Chris (33:45.914)
I'm trying to end.
Matt (33:47.19)
Yeah, don't, I, okay, real talk, I appreciate the lore, but, well, it, it doesn't show up in the movie, right? That's why it makes it a plot hole, because they don't give us any of this information. And it feels like someone somewhere was just like, that shit was all fucked up, let's fill it in so it's, yeah.
Luciano (33:47.59)
Hahaha!
Spencer (33:48.778)
You
But fuck your lore. It's not presented in the movie.
Luciano (33:54.145)
Hahaha!
Chris (33:54.66)
Fine, great.
Luciano (33:57.751)
Yeah.
Chris (33:58.266)
Fine, great. Yes, yes it is. Yes.
Luciano (34:06.06)
Yeah, they watched it again. Yeah, they watched again. It was like, we didn't explain that. Yeah. no. You mean me the colorians.
Spencer (34:10.346)
This is like mitochondria all over again.
Chris (34:10.682)
Mm-hmm.
Minichlorians you're looking for? Right. So according to the movie, that's the quickening. Connecting to animals in life is the quickening. And then when you behead another immortal, you get all their power and knowledge. those, yeah. In this movie, they're both the quickening. Based in this movie, on this movie, what they showed us, those are the quickening.
Matt (34:13.718)
Same, same.
Spencer (34:15.259)
Whatever. Metagodria, same shit.
Matt (34:25.246)
Is that the quick hitting too? Or both the quick hitting? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so the quick hitting is either connecting with nature or fucking murdering some bitch. Great. I don't know.
Luciano (34:39.03)
Well no, the murder is the conduit for the quickening. If you want to get power, have to either go fuck a deer or kill someone. It's one or the other.
Matt (34:45.707)
Yeah.
Why'd I have to fuck it near?
Spencer (34:50.218)
I thought the quickening was my sex life.
Chris (34:50.41)
Yes. Feel. Highlander, feel the shag, feel its blood. I let you get there. I let you get there.
Matt (34:54.314)
Ha ha.
Luciano (34:59.412)
Up your ass. Up your ass.
Spencer (35:00.426)
That's pretty good.
Matt (35:05.524)
was always getting there. But so.
Spencer (35:06.852)
Me and Chris should just recreate this whole movie with him as Sean Connery and me as Lambert.
Matt (35:09.948)
Maybe. I'm sure it'll be better. But so like, are there other things like it's just so many things literally throughout the movie that just makes me
Luciano (35:17.568)
Well, they Dave like Connery. I like how we don't even try to use the character names, but it's like Connery tells Lambert that, you know, when you first when I first, you know, first encountered me, you felt this pain, right? We can feel each other. But then when fucking Kurgan was stalking them, the key were super close and he was like, all he does is like, huh, huh? yeah. It doesn't make any sense.
Chris (35:32.365)
Yeah, yeah.
Matt (35:36.387)
Right. Stocking.
Chris (35:42.702)
Yeah, that was lame. Lame. You're right. That was lame.
Spencer (35:47.21)
The first time you saw Metcurg maybe it only happens when you first meet another Highlander.
Luciano (35:51.414)
No, they feel each other. They feel each other all the time.
Chris (35:52.205)
Immortal?
Spencer (35:55.912)
No, I know they feel each other all the time, but maybe the pain that he gets only happens.
Chris (35:56.1)
sexually and coquitly.
Luciano (35:57.292)
That too. Just like this tag. Just like this tag. They feel each other all the time.
Chris (36:03.288)
Yeah
Spencer (36:03.816)
Listen, I'm trying to fill in the lore here.
Matt (36:05.974)
You get off wikipedia.fandom.highlander.net
Spencer (36:07.882)
Maybe they they maybe they they only feel the They only feel the pain like when they first meet another immortal Because he meets when he first meets a Kyrgyz
Luciano (36:11.16)
What? The Hagaspedia.
Luciano (36:21.496)
But Sean Connery says, the first time was debilitating, now it's not as much. So you do feel it when you're close to each other. That's what he says in the movie, not on Wikipedia in the movie. He feels Kurgan, but he says he feels like, Ramirez says, you felt me when I approached, didn't you? It was painful, right? And you get used to it.
Chris (36:22.318)
Ramirez.
Matt (36:25.92)
Yeah.
Chris (36:30.126)
Yeah. Yeah.
Spencer (36:31.594)
But he first feels it when he's on the battlefield at the very beginning of movie.
Chris (36:43.118)
Yes, yes. But Connor didn't feel anything before he became an immortal. In this movie, he didn't feel anything because he was still mortal. But after that, once he became an immortal, yeah, he felt Ramirez. And then over time, gets like... No, he didn't. He didn't. Like, Kiergen showed up and he was just shocked. And he was confused because no one was fighting him. And then when Kiergen shows up, he was shocked and then got killed.
Luciano (36:49.652)
Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mortal, yeah.
Spencer (36:56.382)
No, he did feel Kurgan in the beginning.
Luciano (36:58.698)
No. He did not.
Luciano (37:04.918)
And yeah, they're like, yeah. Let's fight. And then he opens both arms to let Kurgan stab him in the chest.
Spencer (37:04.938)
What? Didn't didn't did.
Matt (37:09.269)
Yeah.
Chris (37:13.71)
Yeah, yeah.
Spencer (37:13.802)
Didn't Ramirez say this isn't the first time you felt this?
Luciano (37:17.612)
Well, yeah, because he felt it with himself the first time when they first met, Ramirez and Connor.
Chris (37:23.768)
Ramirez showed up on them, like while they were having sex, then, and that, and, he introduces himself, he's on the horse, they start talking, and then Connor's like, go in the house, and that's when Connor was feeling like he was gonna throw up. That was the first time, according to Ramirez. According to Ramirez.
Luciano (37:25.558)
Yeah.
Spencer (37:29.48)
Right.
Luciano (37:38.454)
Yeah.
Luciano (37:43.584)
Yeah. So, but, just the fact that we all have like different accounts of it makes it like bad, right? Yeah.
Spencer (37:45.416)
I remember my first time.
Matt (37:49.908)
Also makes it part of the plot hole, right? We're all like trying to figure out when you feel or don't feel or like you get, yeah.
Chris (37:50.586)
Yeah
Luciano (37:55.03)
Yeah. Yeah. So it's interesting because they do leave a bunch of stuff like unexplained, which is OK. Like what is the prize? We only find out at the end. And it's not important, right? It's the briefcase in pulp fiction. It's the coins in John Wick, right? It doesn't matter. But some things that I think.
Chris (37:55.278)
The buzz, the spidey sense. Yeah.
Spencer (37:56.778)
the quickening, the, the, the,
Matt (38:04.192)
Sure.
Chris (38:04.228)
Like what?
Chris (38:08.844)
At the end, yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (38:19.222)
I they may maybe they should have left more things unexplained because every time they try to explain it, it's like contradictory. So.
Spencer (38:26.75)
What are the things, the phases, or not phases, there's different things. There's the quickening, there's other things, I forget the names of them.
Matt (38:26.902)
But-
Chris (38:35.405)
gathering.
Luciano (38:36.598)
Yeah, the gathering is what when they say that when there's only a few of us, we're going to feel a pull to a distant land, which is America. Yeah.
Spencer (38:36.625)
The gathering,
Chris (38:40.983)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Spencer (38:45.05)
New York City. Is there any other things?
Matt (38:45.161)
New York. Yep.
Chris (38:47.342)
Yeah.
Luciano (38:49.844)
No, not with names like that
Chris (38:50.618)
Awakening, gathering,
Spencer (38:53.418)
thought there was another one.
Luciano (38:54.454)
The prize, but yeah.
Chris (38:56.154)
And then shining.
Matt (38:56.342)
Yeah, the shining.
Luciano (38:59.635)
Hahaha!
Spencer (39:00.338)
Are these, are these all trademarked?
Chris (39:02.724)
There's another thing, like in the movie, like when during the flashback training sequence when like Connor's like, if it just came down to the two of us, would you kill me? Or rather, yeah, would you Ramirez kill me? And then like Ramirez doesn't answer, then immediately, but then after he's like, we have to fight until there's only one of us. But the reason is like, yeah.
Matt (39:03.722)
Maybe.
Matt (39:14.346)
Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (39:17.836)
Yeah.
Luciano (39:24.584)
One, yeah. So that's another thing they never really explain like why there can't be only one like why. And I'm not complaining, this is a good thing. They just leave it like it. Just understand that this is a thing, there are immortals. We don't know why they're immortal, they just are and they have to fight to the death, that's it. So.
Matt (39:27.36)
So if the... Yeah.
Spencer (39:45.662)
I mean, yeah, like they should at least say you will be compelled. Cause it seems like they're choosing to fight in this movie. It doesn't show that he's like compelled to fight the other Island. It seems like he's just going to wrestling matches and chilling.
Luciano (39:49.868)
Yeah, fair.
Matt (39:52.615)
Yes, that's
Luciano (39:58.796)
Well, Connor has two friends who are immortals. Ramirez first and then Kata Gear, right? So they don't fight all the time, yeah.
Matt (40:03.028)
Yes.
Spencer (40:05.066)
Yeah, and they don't seem to want to kill each other.
Chris (40:05.208)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matt (40:08.47)
But then, well, that's my question is like, if you're compelled to fight, how, like, it's fine if you say you're compelled to fight, but then we just choose to not fight like Spencer said, what is it? Like, the compelling force of fighting is if you don't fight, Kyrgyz is gonna cut your fucking head off. That's the only compulsion I see, yeah.
Chris (40:08.64)
No, it's good.
Chris (40:23.63)
Yeah.
Luciano (40:23.851)
Yeah, yeah.
Luciano (40:29.567)
That yeah
Spencer (40:30.196)
That's the only thing that's shown, yeah. Until the end when he's like, actually wants to kill Kurgan.
Chris (40:33.07)
KERGEN!
Luciano (40:34.944)
It would have been good if they said, there is a compulsion to fight, but you can't fight like you can resist it for a little bit. So that's why they're not together all the time. And maybe they could have shown even Ramirez like, okay, I'm going to have to leave for a while before we fucking kill each other.
Chris (40:36.025)
Right.
Spencer (40:48.988)
Or it gets stronger, the less immortals there are. Like as it, as it gets down.
Chris (40:53.402)
That's what it generally is. Yeah, and then in the Madison Square Garden, like opening scene with like Connor and Fazir and stuff, I think it comes down to like the character. Fazir, Fazir, Fazeel, whatever, Fazir.
Luciano (40:53.625)
Yeah, that works too. That works too, yeah.
Matt (41:01.898)
Fazir?
Luciano (41:03.062)
Yeah, Fuzzil. Fuzzil.
Spencer (41:03.21)
What is with this movie casting white guys as like other ethnicities? Like what the fuck is Fazir? He looked like fucking like Ted Cruz
Luciano (41:09.886)
Yeah, also the guy's name is is like a super like Arabic name or whatever the guy looks like his name should be like, I don't know John Brown or something Yeah
Matt (41:10.016)
Ha ha ha.
Chris (41:11.428)
See you.
Spencer (41:19.167)
He looks like he's in line for the fucking British throne.
Chris (41:19.502)
He honestly, I thought the guy from... Yeah, I thought he was the actor from the first Equalizer TV show. I'm like, what is the Equalizer doing in this movie? so like, yeah, like based on...
Matt (41:19.829)
Yeah.
Matt (41:24.086)
Okay.
Luciano (41:30.114)
Yeah.
Spencer (41:31.572)
first equalizer TV show?
Luciano (41:32.85)
I honestly when I because I hadn't seen this movie in a long time when when Fazio shows up I expected him to go well then shall we have a good fight old boy like that's what I expected him to sound not like whatever it is that he I he has an accent but I couldn't place it for zeal yeah
Chris (41:49.12)
Neither could I. And it's like, it's like it comes down to like the character themselves, like that guy, I call him sunglasses because it was so huge. Him, he had like a weird vibe about him. Like he struck me as villain and like Connor was like, Fazil, wait, like, like, let's talk or like, what are you like, do you want to do this? And then he's like, all right, fine, let's go. And then they do it.
Luciano (41:56.696)
You
Luciano (42:05.58)
Yeah, yeah, he didn't want to fight, yeah.
Matt (42:13.43)
Chris, this is exactly the problem with the compulsion to fight. Why isn't Conor McLeod wanting to fight anybody if he's allegedly compelled to fight?
Chris (42:16.28)
Yeah, yeah.
Luciano (42:23.554)
Well, they don't ever explicitly state that they're compelled, right? But then it goes back to Spencer's point of like, why are they fighting then?
Chris (42:24.826)
Good question.
Spencer (42:32.488)
Yeah, they don't they say there's a prize, which is like spread word of mouth. Like like he would never know there's a prize unless Sean Connery like told him.
Chris (42:32.602)
for the prize.
Luciano (42:35.468)
But nobody knows what it is, right?
Chris (42:38.532)
Sorry?
Luciano (42:42.904)
Yeah.
Matt (42:43.21)
Well, so who this is another question and I don't know if it's part of this but I just got like who told them there was a prize Like how is it just like someone made it up and it's like when you done. She's like, alright Here's a fucking cheeseburger from Burger King Yeah, White Castle. Have a good
Luciano (42:49.825)
Yeah.
Luciano (42:55.222)
It's a, it, it, well, white castle. Yeah. Yeah. White castle is better.
Chris (42:56.366)
White Castle, whatever, yeah.
Spencer (42:57.706)
You don't know about it yet, but your kids are gonna love it.
Matt (43:02.066)
Yeah, it's gonna be great. yeah.
Luciano (43:02.2)
You're gonna fucking hate it, but your kids are gonna love it
Chris (43:02.486)
Yeah. Centuries from now, when all the immortals are down to like 12, okay, you're going to battle for something.
Bullshit. And you're gonna love it. And you're compelled.
Matt (43:14.304)
just choice.
Luciano (43:14.428)
No, yeah, they tell him, no, you're going, the prize will be White Castle. And you go, fuck, a a whole castle? And then you get a you just, you just fucking get a boiled burger.
Chris (43:20.666)
I'm like, wow!
Matt (43:22.024)
a whole white castrol? white's not my color but i can paint it blue.
Spencer (43:23.782)
Hahaha
Chris (43:24.024)
Yeah? Yeah?
Spencer (43:29.33)
Wack-asshole! Wack-asshole?
Matt (43:30.966)
Why Castle?
Chris (43:33.082)
Burger Power!
Spencer (43:33.852)
Why, why, castle? But what if like the prize was decided like in the 1300s and it was like your own cow, the most valuable thing you can have. You get you get the wheel.
Luciano (43:34.966)
Cat Castle Power!
Chris (43:36.794)
Fast food power. yeah.
Luciano (43:43.968)
Yeah, you get two goats. It was decided when the first immortal came about. You get fire.
Chris (43:46.659)
HUAH!
Spencer (43:51.466)
You've never heard of it, but...
Chris (43:54.927)
I can- I can roll everything! I can transport anything! The invention of a thousand years!
Luciano (44:00.278)
Yeah.
Spencer (44:00.948)
Haha.
Luciano (44:05.014)
Maybe it's like a pyramid scheme. It's like, no, no, sure, sure. There's a prize at the end for whoever wins. To people's other heads. What happens is if the people that are under you cut someone's head, then their heads come to you. Of their power, yeah. Of their heads, like you get an ear.
Chris (44:07.502)
Hahaha!
Spencer (44:10.09)
But if you get two people to cut off two people's heads and those two people cut off other two people's heads
Matt (44:14.08)
Yeah.
Chris (44:14.434)
Yeah!
Matt (44:17.012)
You
Chris (44:17.242)
And so on, and so on.
Spencer (44:22.768)
You get a percentage of their heads.
Chris (44:23.384)
Yeah. And therefore.
Matt (44:24.938)
Right. Yeah.
Chris (44:30.37)
My hearing increased by 2%.
Matt (44:32.63)
Great. It's good system. So could we, you know, we try to improve the plot holes to some degree. Is there anything we can do quickly with this movie? Like, is it just not saying less? Like Luciano said, like their explanations on stuff suck, so just don't explain. Could they got away with that?
Luciano (44:53.088)
I think.
Spencer (44:53.108)
Is this to fix like the plot hole?
Luciano (44:56.215)
Yeah.
Spencer (44:58.236)
Okay, not like a new movie.
Luciano (45:01.898)
Is that your sol- is that your solution to the plot hole? Just fucking chuck it!
Spencer (45:02.056)
I'm just asking.
Matt (45:02.24)
You know, Spencer, know how we do a preamble before the podcast and we have this third section where we ask questions like this?
Spencer (45:09.13)
Yeah, okay, I just want that that's that's where I was a little confused
Luciano (45:12.108)
Did you, did you watch the preamble?
Chris (45:17.818)
much cocaine were you using during preamble?
Matt (45:20.084)
Yeah. Yeah, was that like you had to get into the mindset of Christopher Lambert?
Spencer (45:20.682)
I had to be to be him I have to become him
Luciano (45:24.052)
Hahaha.
It's method podcasting.
Chris (45:28.538)
Yeah, it's method cocaine ing in order. Yes
Matt (45:30.164)
Yeah.
Spencer (45:32.01)
It's the future of podcasting.
Matt (45:37.396)
meth podcasting got it
Luciano (45:38.264)
So I think some things need explanations, right? Like why are they fighting? You need to explain if there's a compulsion and if there is a compulsion, like can they resist it or whatever, like that kind of stuff. But yeah, I think for the most part, explaining less would have been better, I think. Because here's the thing.
Chris (45:39.97)
Meth casting, yeah.
Like what?
Spencer (45:54.217)
It needs good lore.
Spencer (46:02.442)
There's two ways you can do it. You can ex-
Chris (46:02.51)
Make it more mystical.
Luciano (46:06.22)
When they did try to explain even more, that's when you got fucking Highlander 2 with them being from fucking Planet Zeest. So I don't think they should have explained anything more. Yeah, we don't.
Matt (46:13.526)
We don't talk about that.
Chris (46:14.734)
We don't talk about that. We don't. No one, there's not even the Renegade Director's Cut can save Highlander 2. We do not talk about it.
Spencer (46:15.178)
We don't talk about how I'll enter too and I know nothing about it.
Luciano (46:22.904)
That movie is a fucking turd.
Matt (46:26.324)
I don't acknowledge wikipedia.net.haggis.com and I definitely don't acknowledge Highlander 2.
Luciano (46:34.026)
Highlander 2. Fair. That's a fair rule. Yeah.
Spencer (46:35.518)
That's funny. That's its subtitle. wikipedia.hoghaggis.com.net
Chris (46:35.566)
We ain't gonna do that. Move away from...
Matt (46:38.343)
Yeah, that's actually the whole website.
Luciano (46:40.856)
But all I'm saying is when we ask people to explain more, that's what happens. So maybe they should explain less is what I'm saying.
Chris (46:42.074)
Spencer (46:46.674)
No, there's two ways to go. You can explain less and leave it to the imagination, but then it does lead to some holes. And you can, or you explain and go into detail, but it has to be thought out. What you can't do is what you're saying, which is explain it and it not be thought out and have all sorts of contradictory lore. Like it to be thought up ahead of time and be like, cause this movie, we can all agree and everybody who knows Highlander agrees the concept is
Luciano (47:05.768)
Yeah, no, it has to be explained in a way that makes sense for sure
Spencer (47:16.656)
awesome. It's such a great concept. But you need you need someone to go through and be like, the create lore that works. And like when you start to like, analyze it, because it's a cool world to have lore to, right. But
Luciano (47:17.376)
Yeah, it's the implementation that's the problem.
Matt (47:34.174)
What's Zach Snyder up to?
Luciano (47:37.287)
no, can you imagine? That whole last fight would be in slow motion.
Spencer (47:39.614)
The key to Highlander is grain.
Chris (47:39.738)
He can do it.
Matt (47:43.926)
Grain and I want coal powered spaceships.
Luciano (47:44.478)
HAHAHAHA
Luciano (47:49.718)
Yes. Yes. Also the swords.
Chris (47:51.342)
And we need, and we need Jaiman Honsu bellowing, E-S-R-E-E-U violence.
Luciano (47:58.326)
Yeah, also all of the swords have to have faces in them.
Matt (48:02.622)
Yeah, obviously. Okay, great. Done. I have another plot hole I wanted to tackle quickly.
Matt (48:11.498)
I don't know how to say this other than.
Chris (48:13.21)
Breathe it, work it out. You got it.
Matt (48:17.546)
The accents.
Spencer (48:19.53)
The accent has a plot hole.
Chris (48:19.62)
Hmm
Luciano (48:20.522)
I knew it. I fucking knew it. It is a plot hole because nothing makes sense.
Matt (48:23.518)
I just, it's.
I... it's... yeah, okay.
Spencer (48:29.162)
Let me ask you something. If Sean Connery and Christopher Lampert switched roles, would that make their accents better? You'd have a Scottish man playing a Scottish man. You'd have a French American alien playing an Egyptian. You can't tell me that his accent isn't Egyptian or Spanish because it
Luciano (48:39.771)
We would have one decent accent.
Yes. And then a French American playing a Spanish Egyptian. Yeah. An Egyptian man pretending to be a Spaniard.
Matt (48:43.828)
Right. And then,
Luciano (48:57.612)
No, you can't tell what his accent is. The cop even asked him like, you talk funny, where are from? I'm from all cities all around. What is that accent?
Spencer (48:58.442)
truly is all accents. So I would say it's an imp...
Matt (49:01.781)
I guess.
Matt (49:07.158)
That's like... That's the Jean- Claude Van Damme thing, right? It's like, where you from? Quebec, New Orleans, France.
Spencer (49:07.26)
I'm from your ass.
Chris (49:07.298)
All kinds of places.
Luciano (49:20.056)
Anywhere, anywhere where they speak French but not French basically, yeah.
Spencer (49:20.426)
Belgium
Matt (49:24.66)
Yeah, exactly.
Spencer (49:26.09)
Yeah, because if he was playing Quan, you can't tell me that his accent doesn't sound like a combination of like 17 different accents. So it almost makes sense.
Matt (49:37.44)
Sure, but hear me out on this. This is a fucking made up story. These guys, especially the guy who the movie's not titled after, could be anyone from any place. Why did he have to be Spanish Egyptian?
Luciano (49:48.338)
anything yeah yeah exactly why did he have to why did he have to be a guy who with with a spanish like villa lobos is a portuguese last name by the way so why why does he need to be a spanish man who's actually an egyptian played by the most scottish person that has ever lived like
Spencer (49:56.138)
That's true
Matt (50:01.418)
Yeah, it's, I'm not even gonna go there, yeah.
Spencer (50:01.662)
You
Chris (50:04.932)
Go there!
Spencer (50:09.514)
You know what's funny is I was thinking they could have like cast someone different for the Egyptian Spaniard, but you're right. He doesn't have to be Egyptian Spaniard. He could be anything. And if you had Sean Connery, he could just be Scottish and nobody would bat an eye. You could say.
Luciano (50:17.822)
at all. He could be Scottish. Think about that.
Chris (50:25.626)
play a shelf.
Luciano (50:26.796)
Yeah, no, just let him go ham on the accent because he never can, he never could, right?
Spencer (50:31.592)
and he traveled to Egypt as an immortal. You need to explain why he has a weird sword from ancient-
Chris (50:31.802)
Hmm.
Matt (50:35.03)
Sure, he could've...
Luciano (50:35.07)
It doesn't have to! It doesn't have to have gone anywhere!
Chris (50:39.086)
But,
Matt (50:41.706)
Yeah.
Luciano (50:42.23)
He doesn't have to have that either.
Chris (50:42.82)
not But he does! He does! The fix is already there. Ramirez could be from Scotland and then journeyed wherever and then he can share the experience with the young gun and that's fine.
Spencer (50:44.202)
You shut your mouth.
Matt (50:44.52)
Nobody
Luciano (50:57.738)
And he came back because he felt him from Japan.
Matt (51:01.462)
Great. But the other, this is the other thing and I don't know a hundred percent geography. So someone may have helped me out, but if I understand correctly.
Luciano (51:12.151)
Hmm.
Matt (51:14.006)
Ramirez is 2000 years old?
Luciano (51:18.186)
Yeah, he's more. Almost 2500. Yeah.
Matt (51:19.99)
Over 2000. Did all of the said countries he's from exist 2000 years ago?
Chris (51:25.754)
Pangaea. Ramirez is originally from Pangaea.
Luciano (51:28.02)
Now with those names they didn't. Like in 500 BC I don't think that there was a Japan.
Matt (51:32.711)
Yeah.
Spencer (51:38.428)
Yeah, he would been from like, what is it? Not Pangea.
Luciano (51:41.58)
Well, Egypt. Egypt existed!
Chris (51:41.69)
Rangia, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Matt (51:45.234)
Yeah.
Spencer (51:46.034)
or like Mesopotamia?
Matt (51:47.914)
You guys are... Why are you guys going back hundreds of thousands of millions of years?
Luciano (51:48.361)
No
Luciano (51:51.818)
Yeah, no, no, he's, he's like, he's from like 600 BC, right? Or so. And, and so he could be like him being Egyptian makes sense, but he could also be Greek or Roman or whatever. But then if he says he he was like in his present day in Scotland in the 1500, he says, I'm the chief metallurgist for King whatever, why is he a metallurgist? Let's leave that aside.
Spencer (51:52.264)
He was from Jurassic Park!
Chris (51:54.584)
You know?
Matt (51:54.628)
Yeah.
Matt (51:59.284)
Yeah, we're on that.
Spencer (52:06.824)
Okay, now we're talking.
Matt (52:20.288)
Something Lobos.
Luciano (52:22.729)
Why? No!
Spencer (52:24.606)
You
Chris (52:25.05)
896 BC. 896.
Spencer (52:27.304)
You listen, Pendejo! You listen to me good!
Luciano (52:29.688)
Stop looking at haggis.com. We don't care.
Chris (52:32.755)
It's not you asked how old he was or like when he was born somebody asked Yeah
Matt (52:36.458)
That was in the movie, he didn't say, so it's fine.
Luciano (52:38.616)
when he said hey it says 2400 and whatever right but yeah pendejo but he like spain didn't exist but he didn't need to exist back then he only needs to exist now right i think that's why they that that's why they picked egypt because i i'm sure it existed back then
Spencer (52:40.518)
Uno cerveza, por favor.
Matt (52:42.356)
Yeah.
Matt (52:51.7)
Anyways, it's, it's, we're like.
Matt (52:59.676)
It's, it's, it's, you know, we're going down the rabbit hole because it's just the movie annoys us. But it like, when you come back to the accents, it's just one of these things where it's just like, none of this had to be a thing. You could have just changed it.
Luciano (53:08.95)
What about the Russian Kurgan? Clancy Brown doesn't give a fuck.
Matt (53:13.586)
Yeah, I mean...
Spencer (53:13.8)
Yeah, was gonna say even Clancy Brown is like, he's just like, I'm southern, slightly southern white dude, Midwest.
Luciano (53:21.3)
Mid- I'd say.
Matt (53:21.302)
I think, this is what I think happened with Lansing Brown. I think Lansing Brown, or sorry, the Kuergen, I think that he has been alive for so long that one of his passions, other than killing, is languages. And so he took the time to learn, yeah.
Luciano (53:32.288)
his languages. Yeah, but was that was that the case in the 1500s as well? And so he he created his own accent, which would be exactly like the American accent.
Spencer (53:34.388)
Prius.
was when he was talking in the battles.
Matt (53:43.702)
He spent so much time in the American Deep South clearly he likes to kill so he's right you know getting things going in there and all the slavery and stuff and And so they also got his accent because they liked his his kind of his chip
Spencer (53:49.576)
No topical.
Luciano (53:55.96)
so he came up with that accent and then the Americans copied it from him. okay.
Matt (53:59.392)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Spencer (54:01.514)
So you're saying he's the birth of the English dialect.
Luciano (54:05.58)
Well, the American English dialect, I just went fucking... Bless your heart! He would definitely say that. Yeah.
Matt (54:06.741)
The American South dialect.
Spencer (54:08.991)
That tracks.
Spencer (54:13.63)
Bless your heart sugar. I mean, yeah. mean, the other accents were okay. It's the big three where the big problem, right?
Matt (54:15.624)
Urgant power!
Chris (54:17.582)
MAAAA-
Matt (54:20.362)
Yeah. All right, no.
Luciano (54:26.653)
Yeah, it's funny because the the side characters they all tried Well, christopher lambert tried to like his accent like when he was in scotland. It was like Sometimes it would come up
Spencer (54:31.37)
Yeah, they're like the wives.
Spencer (54:38.666)
She'd be like, you're my husband, I love you. And he's like, I love you too, honey.
Chris (54:38.775)
Yeah.
Luciano (54:45.494)
Now he would try, but then sometimes it would be, Heather, please! Like in no accident at all.
Chris (54:47.064)
Yeah, I blossom my will.
Spencer (54:51.198)
Heather, Heather, please. It's like trying to copy Sean Connery.
Luciano (54:56.426)
Why didn't he do that, right? He should have just done that. Just do a Sean Connery impression the whole time.
Chris (54:59.642)
How did you do that, Sean?
Spencer (55:03.466)
I'm laughing at Heather, please again Jesus Connor, we're just joking
Luciano (55:07.426)
You
Chris (55:07.438)
He he.
Luciano (55:10.167)
You
Just as yeah, yeah That was that too Go back in the house. I'm sorry the hose He trapped no he did say house. Yeah, of course
Chris (55:13.914)
Do as I say, woman!
Chris (55:21.272)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Spencer (55:24.362)
No, he didn't do that. He said house. Go back in the house.
Luciano (55:31.778)
Yeah.
Matt (55:33.492)
Alright, well think we've covered those plot holes succinctly.
Luciano (55:34.98)
Dear what is your accent? I don't know.
Chris (55:39.066)
There's actually one more gaping plot hole. It's Kurgan's next scar.
Luciano (55:41.46)
Ooh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I wrote that down too. Why?
Chris (55:46.912)
How, like, immortals are supposed to regenerate, like, they can't die and they were supposed to regenerate from everything. How does a scar stick around? I didn't get that.
Luciano (55:52.961)
Yeah.
And why does he staple it like 500 years after his neck was cut?
Spencer (55:56.266)
Their necks are the sensitive areas.
Chris (55:59.18)
sure.
Spencer (56:03.412)
That was a fashion choice and you know it. Those were way too loose to be doing anything.
Chris (56:04.952)
Yeah, I'm in disguise.
Luciano (56:06.557)
I mean, I mean, I guy, I mean, this guy's I walked, I walked into a swarm of flying knives and I'm in this guy's now.
Chris (56:16.1)
I stapled myself.
Spencer (56:18.154)
Those staples were a fashion choice and you all know it because they were loose. And secondly, his neck didn't heal because that is there's like their nipples, a sensitive area.
Luciano (56:22.264)
Hmm.
Luciano (56:30.624)
Okay.
Chris (56:33.063)
Okay tracks aka Kyrgyz one of Kyrgyz aliases was Keith samples
Matt (56:43.168)
Get the fuck out of here is your Wikipedia.hagas.net.thehighlander.
Spencer (56:43.485)
What?
Chris (56:43.578)
I know. Move on! Move on! Just move on! Move on.
Luciano (56:44.878)
What are you talking about?
Thailander.hagas.scotland.com
Spencer (56:52.7)
again.
Luciano (56:55.398)
dot com dot net, yeah.
Spencer (56:56.586)
.org
Chris (56:58.284)
Anyways, different questions.
Matt (57:01.97)
thank you. We're actually going to take a break. And we'll be right back after these messages. Okay.
Spencer (57:07.604)
We'll be back after these short messages.
Chris (57:10.83)
Yes!
Bugger sugar.
Luciano (57:18.072)
Jesus, okay.
Chris (57:19.258)
Can I pee now? Shit! Holding your fucking note until cute Kamanga!
Matt (57:22.826)
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Spencer (57:25.322)
Now we come back I'm gonna go
Spencer (57:34.698)
Luciano (59:02.776)
Ugh.
Luciano (59:09.058)
me look at something. I think it's very funny, but...
Luciano (59:22.732)
Highlander.
Luciano (59:56.512)
yeah, in Portuguese this movie is called Highlander the Immortal Warrior because you can just leave it as Highlander. But the best part is the next movie we're watching, which is The Thing.
Matt (01:00:02.582)
Sure, why not.
Right.
Luciano (01:00:12.664)
Pretty sure.
I'm just going to confirm.
Luciano (01:00:22.712)
so known as...
Luciano (01:00:28.75)
no, okay. The Enigma from Another World. That's the name of the thing in Portuguese. Right? It's so dumb. Le Froyable Chose? In French Canada. Chose? Chose?
Matt (01:00:33.088)
Yeah. That fucking sucks.
Extremely dumb.
Matt (01:00:45.206)
Sorry, the what?
Chris (01:00:45.732)
incredible
Matt (01:00:49.791)
Shows is like, yeah.
Luciano (01:00:51.33)
Thing? What is F-Voyable?
Matt (01:00:57.044)
Incredible.
Luciano (01:00:58.354)
There you go. An incredible thing. Okay, that's better than the enigma from another world.
Matt (01:01:01.514)
Yep. Yep.
Alrighty, two points of notice before we continue. One, Chris, you're real hot on the mic. We'll talk about it after, but there's some things we probably should do if we're going to be recording, and it needs to be a little bit more accurate without us having to able to edit it after. I'll talk about it after, but try not to be so hot. And also, I wouldn't change it now, honestly, because it'll be easier for me to edit it, let it be one sound people can adjust.
Chris (01:01:28.535)
I can move it back.
Matt (01:01:35.646)
Second thing is I want to remind you that you don't have to cough into the microphone. can mute yourself. Yeah, it's habit. Don't worry. All right. We're going to jump back in.
Luciano (01:01:51.329)
at 102.
Matt (01:01:53.75)
Spencer.
Spencer (01:01:55.401)
Mm-hmm.
Matt (01:02:00.11)
Welcome back everybody. Welcome to part, part, part, part two. Whoa, seamless. It's like time didn't stop at all. Thanks Spencer. Right on time. Let's dive into section three where we ask some fun questions to really explain what Highlander was all about. Very beginning of the movie. Connor has a lovely lass named Kate. Kate is into Connor.
Luciano (01:02:03.968)
It's like we never left.
Spencer (01:02:04.202)
Bye.
Chris (01:02:07.332)
No!
Spencer (01:02:13.77)
Right on cue.
Chris (01:02:27.737)
Mmm.
Matt (01:02:30.1)
in major way and even promises gets his cousins I guess they were right to promise sure to promise that he won't die in battle and he comes back he didn't die technically they did a job he just got stabbed through everything based on where the sword went into him
Spencer (01:02:35.663)
is dutiful, dutiful girl.
Luciano (01:02:36.118)
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris (01:02:47.45)
Mm-hmm.
Ehhhh
Spencer (01:02:50.538)
Ow! My everything!
Luciano (01:02:52.216)
They do bring him back alive, so...
Matt (01:02:55.689)
He's not dead. Anyways.
Connor survives. Kate is extremely pissed off about this. Like crazy pissed off.
Spencer (01:03:04.99)
Hahaha.
Luciano (01:03:06.072)
I mean, yeah. Her face is, there's way too much glee in her face when she says, kill him, stone him. It's concerning.
Spencer (01:03:09.119)
What if the
Chris (01:03:14.616)
Living.
Spencer (01:03:16.542)
No, not only that, when his friend Augustus, I think his name was Angus, but way more appropriate. Angus tracks. He's like, will exile him. She's literally like, NOOOO!
Matt (01:03:22.742)
Sure. Angus.
Luciano (01:03:23.604)
Angus. I'll guess this is not Roman.
Chris (01:03:24.373)
Angus.
Luciano (01:03:35.064)
No! Yeah, yeah. Burn him! Augustus.
Chris (01:03:37.444)
BANIM! BANIM!
Spencer (01:03:40.003)
She's like, Augustus, please!
Matt (01:03:43.702)
I didn't hear that. Anyways, my question is, it's clearly not just about the fact that Connor is, you know, immortal and risen from the dead and might be the spawn of Satan. What was it? What did Connor do that made Kate hate him so much?
Chris (01:03:44.323)
Ahem.
Luciano (01:04:02.634)
Hmm Left the toilet sit up. No left the toilet sit up. That's why that's why you did one too many times Hmm fair fair point
Chris (01:04:05.248)
spent so much energy sure sure and then they have out they have out
Spencer (01:04:09.236)
They don't have toilets. They didn't have toilet seats.
Matt (01:04:11.488)
There's a toilet seat?
Spencer (01:04:15.422)
What did they have? They used like holes in the dirt.
Luciano (01:04:18.538)
Yeah, probably a bucket. Yeah.
Matt (01:04:19.146)
Maybe a bucket.
Chris (01:04:22.382)
Will you shit in the hole, my love? I blossom, I will.
Luciano (01:04:24.49)
Okay, so he left the bucket lid open. That's what happened.
Matt (01:04:26.134)
you
Matt (01:04:30.07)
Okay, you know what? You've had your time. Moving on. Next person.
Chris (01:04:31.674)
I think she mourned it. When he was on his deathbed and she was like wailing and stuff like that and then Angus told her to stop crying. think that's like a huge, that's like, what is it? It's like a double Big Mac size of emotion that you have to swallow and then process and push down. Then Connor comes back to life and she's like, I swallowed all that emotion.
Luciano (01:04:32.614)
Okay, fair enough.
Spencer (01:05:02.974)
Yeah, I famously would rather people I love die than me deal with them coming back. Too much.
Luciano (01:05:03.992)
So you're saying it's PTSD?
Chris (01:05:09.368)
Yeah, her brain was wrinkled.
Luciano (01:05:13.11)
Wait, yeah. That's supposed to be. I think yours is smooth.
Spencer (01:05:13.319)
All our brains are wrinkled. Yeah, you smooth brain fuck.
Matt (01:05:14.592)
They're supposed to be wrinkled.
Hahaha!
Chris (01:05:19.18)
Nah, nah, nah, nah. Our brains have different grooves, but if we look at each segment, wrinkle, wrinkle, wrinkle.
Matt (01:05:24.384)
Hey! No, get... actually, ranger, why not answer the question? Spencer.
Spencer (01:05:27.913)
Ha ha.
Chris (01:05:30.317)
I already did.
Luciano (01:05:31.574)
Yeah, the question, the answer is crazy smooth brained. That's the answer.
Spencer (01:05:31.786)
I think...
Spencer (01:05:35.932)
Yeah, think she recently, going into this battle, she took out a sizable account on her Scottish life insurance policy.
Matt (01:05:44.446)
Nice. That's true. Famously, no.
Chris (01:05:48.602)
Who you got on the McLeods? I'm gonna some money on Connor, he ain't coming back. It sounded like it to me.
Spencer (01:05:55.144)
No, she wasn't betting on him to die. Well, I mean, she was. She was technically, she's not going to the Scottish bookies.
Luciano (01:05:57.184)
Yeah, she's not she's not going to the bookies like
Matt (01:06:01.856)
Well, that's actually no, but I think Chris is onto this because I don't think insurance existed yet. But I do think that life insurance was essentially betting on whether or not your partner come back from the war.
Luciano (01:06:07.448)
WHAT?!
Spencer (01:06:14.09)
I like this.
Luciano (01:06:15.065)
So what you're what you're saying is she did a Deadpool Okay
Spencer (01:06:18.694)
Yeah, I think she was she's like I want him to live but just to ease my heartbreak. I'm gonna
Matt (01:06:18.727)
Yes.
Chris (01:06:19.578)
Ayyyy
Luciano (01:06:23.359)
in case
Matt (01:06:24.603)
Yeah, it's hedging your bets. If he comes home, great. If he's dead and I'm rich, also great.
Luciano (01:06:26.626)
Yeah.
Spencer (01:06:30.417)
even better.
Luciano (01:06:30.494)
Mula! Yeah, I can feel the void in my heart with a lot of money. Yeah.
Chris (01:06:35.844)
I'll wipe my tears with all of my coin.
Spencer (01:06:38.334)
I'm gonna, you know what, just in case, gonna throw a couple thou shekels. What are they working with here? The blooms?
Matt (01:06:38.345)
Yeah, exactly.
Luciano (01:06:45.57)
Sheckles!
Matt (01:06:45.782)
Alright, Shackles?
Chris (01:06:46.084)
D-bloo-d-bloons. I believe, I believe it's doubloons.
Spencer (01:06:51.242)
That's what I don't know it's one of the oldest currencies Is it not okay? What did they use back in?
Luciano (01:06:51.604)
Why shackles of all things?
It's not! god.
Matt (01:06:56.693)
Okay.
Chris (01:07:02.01)
Gold!
Luciano (01:07:02.508)
Gold. The Blooms or whatever.
Matt (01:07:02.814)
It would just be gold, yeah, they didn't have shillings or anything. No, they're just- but it's like- it's like... coin of the realm.
Spencer (01:07:06.186)
They didn't have any currency back then?
Chris (01:07:08.79)
sure they... chickens? What is it? Trade and barter?
Luciano (01:07:09.112)
Okay I'm gonna look while you answer this question I'm gonna look. The coin, the coin of the realm.
Spencer (01:07:10.73)
They didn't have coins but they had buckets for shitting?
Chris (01:07:15.714)
The bartering system.
Matt (01:07:17.53)
Yeah. She, so, okay. It's the right, it's the parting system. So she put down three chickens.
Spencer (01:07:24.104)
his life. Wait, how do you trade? How do you bet someone's life? no, you would say, if he dies, I get a cow and a couple chickens.
Matt (01:07:31.774)
Yeah. Couple chickens and a shit bucket, a brand new shit bucket.
Luciano (01:07:36.438)
Hey, listen, those cows with the fucking toupees are cool. So that's a good prize.
Matt (01:07:40.789)
Okay.
Spencer (01:07:43.266)
And I get your shit bucket. Cause McCloud's shadow over mine.
Matt (01:07:45.096)
Right. so the problem, right. And so Spencer, you've nailed it. The problem with this bet is if you lose the bet, you got to pay up.
Spencer (01:07:53.876)
and he comes back alive. gotta pay her. She'd have to give whoever she bet. She does not have a cow, three chickens and a shit bucket.
Matt (01:07:57.844)
And she doesn't have.
Chris (01:08:01.434)
spent it all angus steak prime rib she she she ate it up like that night when he died she ate her angus cow because he died Connor died so she spent and like lived it up in one night she like in order to process all that she used everything she spent it like whatever she could spend
Matt (01:08:02.772)
Yeah.
Matt (01:08:06.55)
Sorry, she, ate Angus?
Matt (01:08:11.606)
Nothing.
Spencer (01:08:12.276)
That brings up whole nother question.
Matt (01:08:21.296)
Right, because she was certain he was dead.
Spencer (01:08:24.372)
Let me ask you, sidebar on this, just cause you said he ate Angus, if they were stuck in the middle of nowhere and had no food, could she eat him and he regenerate and then be able to survive off his meat?
Chris (01:08:24.548)
She's like, damn, prime rib, tomahawk.
Chris (01:08:39.524)
Yeah?
Luciano (01:08:39.916)
Now you're asking the real questions.
Matt (01:08:41.558)
It's a great question, but unfortunately, I don't want to ask it, so we're not going to.
Chris (01:08:41.988)
Yes.
Spencer (01:08:43.882)
We're out of time. Next question.
Luciano (01:08:46.21)
So just to answer the question, the currency was the pound scott.
Spencer (01:08:52.106)
told you! I told you it was the pound, Scott!
Matt (01:08:52.704)
Sure. Corner of the realm.
Chris (01:08:54.138)
your freaking coin of the realm dot com fucking factual internet who do you what's it's
Matt (01:08:58.55)
you
Luciano (01:09:00.396)
This is not about the movie, you idiot.
Spencer (01:09:00.958)
Listen, can you rewind it to when I said it was the Pound Scott? I definitely didn't say Sheckles.
Chris (01:09:04.088)
What it's about is these nuts.
Luciano (01:09:09.122)
Sure.
Matt (01:09:09.214)
I can't. Unfortunately, we can't. We have to move forward only in time. Next question. Hey, we talked about Fassel, the definitely not white man. Why? What's with the backflips?
Luciano (01:09:15.884)
Okay?
Spencer (01:09:17.418)
Stupid linear time.
Chris (01:09:25.199)
Yo.
Luciano (01:09:25.708)
Ha ha ha ha!
Spencer (01:09:30.41)
So many backflips. He backflips off the car first and I was like, wow, that was a exquisite dismount for no reason. And then proceeds to be like, I learned this recently and I'm going to use it. So he backflips down the hall.
Luciano (01:09:34.39)
Yes.
Matt (01:09:36.574)
Yeah, that was cool. Yeah.
Luciano (01:09:41.568)
Yeah.
Luciano (01:09:45.533)
Yeah, he fights for another three seconds and then just backflips. Like he doesn't go anywhere without backflips, basically.
Matt (01:09:53.994)
Right, so why? Why does he backflip so much?
Luciano (01:09:58.001)
He paid for those lessons and he fucking well is going to get some money out of it. Some value out of it.
Chris (01:10:03.437)
going to be a gymnast. When I win the prize, I'm going to the Olympics. I'm going to be the most, I'm going to be the winningest immortal that ever fucking lived throughout history. Gotta practice.
Luciano (01:10:07.488)
Hahaha!
Spencer (01:10:13.866)
Yeah. And you, and you don't know, you don't know this, but that's it. He's like a 45 to 50 year old man, I believe. And for him, so for him to learn that it took him at least 200 years of practice. So he was, he put the time in, he's going to, he's going to make the most of it.
Matt (01:10:21.926)
at least he's very, he's very pudgy.
Chris (01:10:22.872)
He was spry.
Luciano (01:10:25.461)
Yes.
Chris (01:10:29.082)
See?
Matt (01:10:29.398)
Okay, that's fair.
Luciano (01:10:34.784)
It's just, at this point it's just faster for him than walking.
Spencer (01:10:37.226)
What sounds like your sex sounds, Chris? boy.
Chris (01:10:39.756)
It is, but it's also flipping.
Matt (01:10:44.214)
Many questions, but we're not asking about that. We're just saying anyway. No, so I just was wondering if maybe when he was training to be a world champion, that, sure, same difference, that someone was like, so listen, they can't kill you on holy ground, but also they can't kill you when you're backflipping.
Luciano (01:10:45.848)
Not the venue.
Chris (01:10:46.734)
Hahaha!
Chris (01:10:57.092)
Olympian.
Luciano (01:11:09.676)
Yeah, because they can't hit. If you're backflipping, they can get to your head.
Spencer (01:11:13.246)
That's just...
Matt (01:11:13.46)
Yeah.
Chris (01:11:13.56)
and they can't kill you at the Olympics. Too many eyes.
Luciano (01:11:17.44)
It's also a holy ground.
Matt (01:11:22.142)
Nailed it. Moving on. Why the fuck was Conor McLeod at a wrestling match? That he clearly hated.
Spencer (01:11:32.246)
Like I just want to I just thought it was funny from like there's a reason I'm sure but from a movie making point of view I thought it was funny that they had him at the bat at the wrestling because it like I think in their minds and their makings are like this is the closest thing we have to modern like battle and then it cuts back to then it cuts back to like yeah like duels and it cuts back to like the old time like fighting to the death and I guess this is before Bach wrestling being super fake was really known
Matt (01:11:48.372)
Yes, not boxing.
Luciano (01:11:50.146)
Like duels?
Matt (01:12:01.847)
Again, not boxing, not boxing in one of his fucking heydays with Mike Tyson. That's cool, my bad.
Chris (01:12:02.106)
That thing was...
Spencer (01:12:04.774)
No, no, no, no.
Luciano (01:12:06.22)
Yeah, Mike Tyson in the height at the height of his powers. They didn't have the budget to show that they already try to convince us that whatever fucking hole they were in was Madison Square Garden.
Spencer (01:12:12.692)
Yeah.
Matt (01:12:14.292)
Wrestling, definitely it.
Spencer (01:12:21.45)
You shut your whore mouth.
Matt (01:12:22.504)
Anyway, first of all, that probably was, but why was he there?
Chris (01:12:29.102)
He was looking, there was an another, there was, before Fazil showed up, Connor wanted to go and watch some like fisticuffs, right? Some WWF fisticuffs, but there was an immortal in that ring. that's what he was ice cold grilling that ring. like Jimmy Fly Snooka, I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get you. And when I fucking get you, I'm gonna.
Luciano (01:12:29.153)
That's.
Luciano (01:12:49.477)
Jimmy Floyd's newcomer. No, I don't want to. hate wrestling.
Chris (01:12:52.314)
That's that's a new name. That's a real name. Yeah, man. Get you learn your fucking history and silence. And then he's like looking at it. And when I get and when I get my when I get into the ring, I'm a snap into my slim Jim. And then I'm going to use I'm going to use my quickening slam to sever your head.
Matt (01:12:52.778)
That's a real wrestler. Yeah, that's a real, that's a real wrestler.
Matt (01:13:08.434)
full.
Matt (01:13:13.6)
You never go full macho man.
Luciano (01:13:15.735)
Yeah.
Chris (01:13:16.813)
You always do.
Spencer (01:13:17.834)
You always go. I think to add to Chris's point that maybe the person that he was stalking who was a wrestler was actually Fazil and he was actually the Iron Cheek.
Matt (01:13:32.01)
That actually cracks. Yeah, that tracks.
Spencer (01:13:33.448)
because he was clearly of Iranian descent, Fazeel, I'm just gonna guess. So he was watching him perform.
Luciano (01:13:35.864)
I hate all of this.
Matt (01:13:37.174)
Alright.
Chris (01:13:39.801)
Maybe.
Matt (01:13:40.66)
Yeah, why not?
Matt (01:13:45.642)
Not any worse than all the misogyny in the movie, so sure why not.
Spencer (01:13:50.42)
So, and then when he left, like, and then he saw him in the stage when he was doing his famous, chic slam. And then he followed him to the parking lot to get the jump on him.
Luciano (01:13:50.483)
Hahaha!
Chris (01:13:59.108)
Hmm?
Matt (01:14:06.9)
And he just wanted to ask what the sheik slammed, that's why I said, wait, Facil, can we talk? Right.
Spencer (01:14:10.6)
He was just a fan.
Chris (01:14:12.366)
Yeah, how did you perfect your skeek, Slingham?
Spencer (01:14:16.846)
Wait, was that Christopher Lambert's Man Savage? Was that Macho Man Lambert?
Matt (01:14:18.646)
I have no idea who that was.
Chris (01:14:21.532)
my Lambert's no good. You're the Lambert aficionado.
Luciano (01:14:25.034)
Marshall Mendenlaubert, yeah.
Matt (01:14:25.706)
Yeah.
Chris (01:14:26.867)
after a hot macho Lambert.
Matt (01:14:29.576)
Mush-Mush-O-Man Christopher Lambert.
Spencer (01:14:32.244)
Hello, my name is Macho Man Randy Savage! yeah!
Chris (01:14:32.566)
Luchador Lambert.
Chris (01:14:40.762)
Welcome to Mortal Kombat and when you step into the ring, you'll hear... I-I... You may not like it, but respect it. Heather, please!
Spencer (01:14:43.674)
That's pretty good. The cream of the crop. The cream.
Matt (01:14:47.825)
you
Matt (01:14:57.822)
I think it's Miss Elizabeth, please. You want to be totally accurate? No, I think that answered that question completely, and I want to move away from it as quickly as possible. All right, this is a big one. Normally, we don't ask these questions too much, but I think it's important for this one. As we talked about before, we love the idea of Highlander, and we're just not happy with the implementation of Highlander. There have been other variations on Highlander. We mentioned Jet Li is the one. There was also Infinite.
Luciano (01:15:00.93)
Yeah.
Spencer (01:15:06.271)
You
Chris (01:15:07.236)
Hahaha!
Spencer (01:15:09.277)
You
Matt (01:15:28.032)
marquee mark disaster vehicle but I think what really needs to happen is that the Westside Boys partner up with Zack Snyder and they're gonna reboot the Highlander
Chris (01:15:28.569)
Yeah.
Luciano (01:15:36.881)
no. no.
Chris (01:15:38.906)
Mmm. I'm in.
Spencer (01:15:39.53)
No... This is... This is death from this jump.
Luciano (01:15:40.992)
I thought you wanted to fix this.
Matt (01:15:45.174)
I don't know. I was just asking a question. I don't know where it came from. And it's gonna, you know, we're gonna reboot Highlander for 2020, 2026 release window. How, how, how, yeah, well, they got get that money. They're all with the money. You know, like December Christmas release, obviously for Highlander. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Spencer (01:15:54.89)
We gotta get this made fast.
Spencer (01:16:00.874)
We jump on this trend while it's
Chris (01:16:02.862)
Yeah, you know?
Luciano (01:16:04.802)
So I think the first thing you have to do is keep the casting choices, honoring the original. So you cast Mike Myers as Ramirez. He can do a Scottish accent, right? Donkey!
Matt (01:16:22.016)
Sure. Yeah.
Chris (01:16:22.138)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Spencer (01:16:24.746)
He can do a Scottish accent. Well, dongy!
Matt (01:16:27.555)
Great.
Chris (01:16:27.994)
You could. actually.
Spencer (01:16:32.01)
My name's Juan Ramirez.
Matt (01:16:32.822)
Wait a second, are we onto something? Are we just making Shrek 5 at the same time?
Chris (01:16:39.704)
No, no, I cracked it. I've cracked it. This is how you make it good. Like, I know we're for comedy, but you guys, mark strong for Ramirez. Yes, yes, yes.
Spencer (01:16:39.722)
I think we're onto something here. What do mean we just did?
Matt (01:16:48.107)
Yeah
Luciano (01:16:52.214)
What? No, Mark Strong for Kurgan.
Spencer (01:16:53.767)
What?
Mark Strong, Mark Strong over Mike Myers. Shrek version.
Chris (01:16:57.07)
Too old!
Matt (01:17:02.102)
I don't see it.
Luciano (01:17:02.23)
Ha ha ha!
Chris (01:17:04.546)
You want this to be good? You do Mark Strong. You want it to be a joke?
Spencer (01:17:06.206)
You're saying Mark Strong over making this into Shrek 5.
Matt (01:17:08.246)
Chris, Chris, already told you that it's the Westside Boys and Zack Snyder. You can't be on the good path. Yeah, okay, thank you. Yeah.
Chris (01:17:10.298)
There's two, there's a path.
Luciano (01:17:15.281)
Zack Snyder. Well, if it's...
Chris (01:17:16.529)
thanks for reminding me. Mike Myers stands. Thanks for the reminder.
Luciano (01:17:20.694)
so if it's X, if it's X neither, then, then you have to get like Ben Affleck to play, to play Connor McLeod or something like that.
Spencer (01:17:32.074)
thought we were having Mike Myers play every character.
Matt (01:17:33.898)
Yeah, was it wasn't that clear?
Luciano (01:17:34.168)
Eddie Murphy style.
Spencer (01:17:37.594)
Yeah, no, Mike Byers style. He does every character too.
Luciano (01:17:40.96)
That's true.
Chris (01:17:41.05)
And you call it, and you call it the immortals.
Luciano (01:17:44.424)
no.
Chris (01:17:45.786)
Get the prize! Get the prize! Get the prize!
Spencer (01:17:45.992)
No, it's called Shrek 5. It's called Shrek 5 and it's a live action sequel to an animated film.
Luciano (01:17:54.446)
my god the highlander shrek shrek the shrek 5 the quickening i like it
Chris (01:17:54.65)
Hmm.
Matt (01:17:55.158)
Trek 5, The Immortal Quickening.
Spencer (01:17:56.926)
The Quickening.
Matt (01:18:02.869)
We're taking it back from Highlander 2.
Luciano (01:18:04.204)
Don't care, can be only one!
Spencer (01:18:06.376)
I will say though, in this new movie, because one of the concepts that's cool is they're all obviously immortal. And I liked the idea in the movie of this movie that like one guy's like from Egypt one be cool if they were all like from different cultures, like really old cultures. And then yeah, like they're like, they're meeting way later. And he's like, I was a samurai. I was an Egyptian, you know, like, I mean, I am an, I am Egyptian, but like I was from.
Chris (01:18:06.874)
Mmm.
Chris (01:18:23.502)
Big Street Fighter, Japan!
Chris (01:18:34.522)
I was...
Spencer (01:18:35.434)
you know, the Egyptian culture and and a capoeira guy from obviously like a guy from Africa, like the oldest tribe in Africa, obviously played by Mike Myers.
Matt (01:18:36.278)
Can we get a Capoeira guy from Brazil?
Luciano (01:18:40.108)
Yeah, yeah.
Matt (01:18:42.227)
Yeah.
Luciano (01:18:47.89)
Hahaha!
Chris (01:18:48.544)
You want someone from India so Mike Myers will play Dalsim
Spencer (01:18:50.268)
India. Yeah. And that's what what's one element that they could have used.
Chris (01:18:54.286)
Yoga donkey!
Spencer (01:18:59.976)
Like, like showing the different cultures. Cause in this movie they're all Scottish, even though they're not actually all Scottish.
Chris (01:19:05.71)
Also, all
Spencer (01:19:12.317)
Well, yeah.
Luciano (01:19:12.51)
yeah!
Matt (01:19:12.576)
Don't worry. It's fine. Mike Myers will fix that.
Luciano (01:19:15.874)
Hahaha!
Spencer (01:19:17.444)
And the other thing is, think the price at the end should be there is no price.
Luciano (01:19:22.336)
Also, I think one character that Mike Myers shouldn't play is Kurgan, that should be Dana Carvey.
Spencer (01:19:28.638)
Wrong.
Chris (01:19:33.882)
Master of disguise!
Luciano (01:19:34.784)
Exactly.
Matt (01:19:35.21)
I'll allow it. So if we're putting a variation on this, know, should we... We're still chopping off heads with swords? Should we put a variation of that into play as well?
Spencer (01:19:35.738)
I'm not turtling up for the turrrr
Luciano (01:19:40.16)
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Chris (01:19:40.484)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Luciano (01:19:57.88)
It'd be cool if you had like someone who tried a different thing and were like using a shotgun to blow people's heads off.
Spencer (01:20:06.954)
Shrek should do that.
Luciano (01:20:10.058)
Okay. Wait, is the donkey also an immortal?
Matt (01:20:11.169)
All right.
Chris (01:20:14.946)
Is it like they have to be like watermelon clapped?
Spencer (01:20:16.222)
What a stupid fucking question. Is the donkey also immortal? He's played by Eddie Murphy, the only other cast member.
Luciano (01:20:18.656)
Of course yes. Of course. Don Quiromiris. Any Murphy, yeah. No, and Dana Carvey, of course.
Matt (01:20:20.746)
Donkey Ramirez is immortal, we've covered that already.
Spencer (01:20:31.73)
No, it's Mike Myers playing Eddie Murphy. Playing Donkey.
Matt (01:20:34.206)
Yeah. I thought that was clear the whole time. Thank you.
Luciano (01:20:38.379)
I'm sorry, my bad.
Spencer (01:20:39.498)
Look at that boulder. That's a nice boulder. What do mean? This is so much better. Yes, thank you.
Luciano (01:20:42.445)
You
Matt (01:20:43.041)
All right, moving on. No, it'll be great.
Chris (01:20:45.082)
This shit is doomed. Doomed to succeed! Doomed to dominate the box office.
Luciano (01:20:46.552)
You
Matt (01:20:50.13)
WB always, the WB puts out great successes. Have you not heard of Joker or Folly I Do? That's doing great, I said topically.
Luciano (01:20:57.004)
Joker 2, yeah.
Chris (01:20:58.938)
Spencer (01:21:01.524)
You know what? You know what? Matt makes a great point. It should be a musical.
Matt (01:21:05.734)
good point. Yep. Mike Myers can do it. That's fine.
Luciano (01:21:06.808)
yeah of course 100 percent
Chris (01:21:09.966)
Donkey, they're kinda the only ones!
Luciano (01:21:13.996)
Why is he drunk? cause he's Scottish. That's racist, but okay.
Matt (01:21:14.527)
Spencer (01:21:16.701)
Their family won. I am the Highlander.
Matt (01:21:17.536)
which yeah.
Luciano (01:21:22.528)
No, no, they should all be singing Queen songs, obviously.
Spencer (01:21:28.104)
I don't know how any of those songs go.
Luciano (01:21:29.944)
Why was you singing? The universe.
Chris (01:21:32.984)
He didn't wa- that didn't sound-
Spencer (01:21:33.652)
What's the song called? Prince of what?
Chris (01:21:37.09)
Next question, next different question.
Spencer (01:21:37.982)
We are the princes of the universe. You never go full Kanye.
Luciano (01:21:42.292)
What is that? Yeah.
Matt (01:21:44.01)
Sound like you started off singing Kanye for a second and then-
Chris (01:21:46.829)
Yeah
Luciano (01:21:50.089)
No, please don't.
Matt (01:21:50.998)
No, you don't. Let's ask one more question before we're done here. The Kurgan. The Kurgan is pretty much a ripoff of Arnold Schwarzer's Terminator from the first movie. Like, at some points it seemed like they were doing a shot for shot with the leather jackets and the telling people not to talk to him and like slow pan turning and rah. The Immortal This. So, I mean, let's ask the question. Who would win in a fight straight up, the Kurgan or the OG Terminator?
Chris (01:21:52.217)
Mmm. Mmm.
Spencer (01:21:53.706)
Should we?
Luciano (01:21:56.149)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (01:22:01.912)
Okay.
Chris (01:22:02.17)
Okay. Huh.
Spencer (01:22:10.762)
and the immortalness.
Chris (01:22:15.77)
unstoppableness.
Spencer (01:22:19.737)
Is this the Shrek version of Kurgan?
Luciano (01:22:19.84)
Mmm.
Matt (01:22:23.323)
I leave it open to your interpretation. I'm just asking. I'm asking the Kurgan versus the OG Terminator. You fill in the blanks from there.
Spencer (01:22:24.586)
This Dana Carvey's Dana Carvey's Kyrgyz? Okay.
Spencer (01:22:36.458)
Hmm. There's one big question here. Does the Terminator know that the only way to kill him is to cut off his head? Or does he have to figure that out through trial and error?
Matt (01:22:38.742)
You sure?
Matt (01:22:49.874)
It's a great question.
Chris (01:22:50.34)
think they should figure it out.
Luciano (01:22:51.639)
Yeah.
Spencer (01:22:53.002)
I think if he knows that, it's a pretty easy win for him.
Matt (01:22:55.798)
So I think that he doesn't know that. And also, the Kyrgyz doesn't know that the Terminator is made of metal. He just thinks he's a mortal man. All right?
Spencer (01:22:59.646)
I think that's.
Luciano (01:23:03.659)
is a robot.
Chris (01:23:08.95)
until like they duke it out.
Spencer (01:23:10.078)
He thinks he's another immortal. He thinks he's another.
Matt (01:23:12.298)
No, he just thinks he's a man. He doesn't know he's like a fucking T-1000 or T-800. Yeah, T-P. Why are you all serious with me here? I'm just laying out the facts. The facts is that Kurgan doesn't know he's a T-800 model Skynet cybernetic whatever monster and the Terminator has no idea that you have to chop the Kurgan set off.
Chris (01:23:17.69)
But we're answering this. But if this thing plays out, like, they're gonna, they're... But it's fun!
Luciano (01:23:17.707)
Because his knife is the T800.
Luciano (01:23:31.245)
Okay.
Luciano (01:23:38.008)
So if you're laying the fact, I'm gonna lay on you the fact that they probably wouldn't fight, they'd just be best friends.
Matt (01:23:44.573)
You got me there.
Chris (01:23:44.794)
Cool.
Spencer (01:23:45.61)
Well, that depends. Where does Mike Myers fit in all this?
Chris (01:23:50.168)
Well that depends.
Luciano (01:23:51.24)
Mike Myers plays the motorcycle.
Spencer (01:23:54.409)
Fire's like the Terminator.
Matt (01:23:56.214)
you
Chris (01:23:56.76)
You just heard him say Mike Meyer plays the motorcycle. That is the most factual, that is the most factual computation of this scenario that there could ever be.
Luciano (01:23:59.872)
Yes. Yes.
Matt (01:24:00.085)
Okay
Spencer (01:24:08.351)
Note. And Dana Carvey also plays the Terminator as his character Hans from Hans and Franz.
Luciano (01:24:09.452)
Hahaha
Luciano (01:24:14.786)
We're about to pump you up!
Spencer (01:24:16.232)
You are!
Chris (01:24:17.623)
You up?
Spencer (01:24:20.562)
I think the Terminator wins and I'll tell you why. I see that. I see this going out as Kurgan going for the attack first because terminators takes his time and doesn't worry about anything. The sword, goes with a sword because that's this weapon of choice with the most humans. He seemed to just stab them through the chest. First things first, he's going to go for a step, a chest stab. If he's lucky.
Luciano (01:24:34.06)
Kiss Gargon.
Matt (01:24:44.214)
Mm-hmm.
Spencer (01:24:50.664)
I mean, he'll hit the metal and it's not going to even penetrate. It's just going to be like, but.
Luciano (01:24:55.01)
Well, he has a modular sword. He's going to hit the metal and the sword's going to come apart. Yeah.
Spencer (01:24:59.86)
That's true. The sword probably will break and that immediately is going to be a problem. Terminator.
Matt (01:25:05.088)
not a problem.
Chris (01:25:05.316)
Damn this kid is sword from Ikea
Luciano (01:25:08.664)
It's a sword with like the O has a little like circle above it. Yeah, no, no a circle above it.
Spencer (01:25:10.454)
I think the Tremere is going to probably...
Chris (01:25:15.15)
OOMLOUT!
Bye, Oxford.
Spencer (01:25:18.928)
And I think Terminator will probably just grab him by the collar and like throw him. That tends to be the turtle. Terminator's like move. And then the more that the Kurgan goes at him, the less, like, I don't think there's really anything Kurgan from really due to him.
Luciano (01:25:24.738)
Yeah.
Right.
Luciano (01:25:36.652)
Yeah, but the Terminator also wouldn't figure out, like he would try to shoot him and all that stuff and nothing would happen.
Spencer (01:25:37.278)
There's no, even modern day weaponry doesn't kill the Terminator.
Spencer (01:25:45.349)
I think he just keeps shooting him. think through trial and error eventually he would rip his head off.
Luciano (01:25:50.902)
Hmm, so it'll a battle of attrition
Spencer (01:25:53.106)
I think that would happen before, yeah, that would happen before Kurgan figures out any kind of way to penetrate the Terminator's exoskeleton.
Matt (01:25:53.224)
I think.
Matt (01:26:01.898)
I think the Kurgan runs him through immediately because he has the power from the quickening. Either killing people or any explosive swords. He can blow walls, implode walls. He's going to cave in the Terminator's bestest sword implosion technique.
Luciano (01:26:08.095)
and the explosive sword.
Luciano (01:26:12.567)
That's true.
Spencer (01:26:13.834)
That's true. I didn't take that into consideration.
Luciano (01:26:17.578)
He hits the terminator, the terminator explodes and falls forward.
Spencer (01:26:20.9)
Yeah, when he hits his metal chest, the metal just explodes outward.
Luciano (01:26:25.14)
Outwards. Yeah, exactly.
Matt (01:26:25.558)
Alright, problem solved. We're good. Let's wrap this up with our patented rating system S tier is the highest, F is the lowest. We put something somewhere in between sometimes depending on how we're feeling. Chris, we'll let you go last after we shittle over your movie.
Spencer (01:26:27.39)
that tracks.
Luciano (01:26:41.738)
hahahaha
Spencer (01:26:42.223)
Hey, you don't know that.
Chris (01:26:43.224)
You can try.
Matt (01:26:43.69)
potentially. Chris, I mean Spencer, do not do the thing.
Spencer (01:26:48.03)
This movie had a disturbingly low, had a serious lack of Shrek and Mike Myers, which I know we fixed, but the problem is there, whether you like it or not. I mean, for concepts, I will give this high rating, good idea, but execution-wise and age-wise, this movie's a like...
You could you could feel its age big time. So as someone who never seen it and didn't have nostalgia or rose tinted glasses, looking at you, generation boomer. OK, boomer. So I'm myself up over here.
Matt (01:27:29.046)
Fuck you.
Luciano (01:27:30.314)
It's... it's X, motherfucker!
Chris (01:27:39.258)
I just repelled
Matt (01:27:40.511)
I'm
Chris (01:27:44.666)
Please!
Luciano (01:27:45.514)
hahahahah
Spencer (01:27:46.538)
You know what? You make a good point. I was going to give this movie a D, but for the Heather, please scene alone, it gets pumped up to a C because that made me laugh harder than any comedy I've seen in a long time. That and the jump cut from the old lady in the car to her being on the hood in the next shot was fantastic. The wife like crying that they weren't killing her husband.
Matt (01:28:00.712)
Hehehehehe
Matt (01:28:07.541)
Yeah
Chris (01:28:07.992)
Mm-hmm.
Matt (01:28:10.294)
Perfect.
Luciano (01:28:15.967)
Yeah.
Chris (01:28:16.186)
Mmm.
Spencer (01:28:16.294)
also got some in the backflips. So those those four scenes alone elevate this movie from a D no no from a D to a C. So that is my that is my ranking good sirs.
Luciano (01:28:20.768)
Yeah.
Matt (01:28:20.81)
lot going on there.
Chris (01:28:21.21)
Sounds like you're moving it up the roster. Interesting.
Luciano (01:28:24.737)
Okay.
Matt (01:28:29.098)
I'm glad we maintained the sanctity of our rating system. Luciano.
Spencer (01:28:32.163)
Thank you.
Luciano (01:28:34.424)
So unlike Spencer who's a child, I did watch this movie back in the day and I've I mean I started this movie with rose tinted glasses by but like by scene two I had thrown the glasses away and wish I could have thrown my eyes away but
Spencer (01:28:50.046)
picture the red tin from the glasses bleeding out of the glasses just like blood pouring out of the cracked glasses.
Luciano (01:28:52.76)
It's just draining. Yeah, bleeding out. Yeah. And me just crying from when when I I used to love this movie. And I've said this to Chris on our chat. Is that, you know, fuck you for making me watch this again? Because, you know, it does not. This movie aged like a fine glass of milk. And it's like the acting is horrible. The effects are horrible. The story is weird. The scenes are
The scenes are the worst part. Half of them don't make any sense. Like I keep, I kept referring to this, but that scene in the, in the bar where he meets Brenda and she goes like, you following me? I'd like to follow you to walk you home, Brenda. Like, what the fuck was that? And then he does, and they go out and whatever. It's like, none of that makes sense. So if yeah, don't, don't, don't bring this fucking maniac to your house. He's going to.
Matt (01:29:42.942)
No Brenda, don't do it.
Luciano (01:29:48.64)
look in all your drawers and find your gun and probably your panties. anyway, if you had asked me before I rewatched it, I would probably have given this movie an A. If I had never watched this movie, I would have given it an E. So I would just split the difference somewhere there and give it a C. It gets the C and not the E because of the nostalgia factor for sure. The premise is good, the implementation is horrendous.
Matt (01:30:08.052)
Okay.
Matt (01:30:13.61)
That's fair.
I mean, that's going to come down to this very similar thing for me. The premise is interesting, very, very thought provoking. Seems really exciting. Spencer's right. It's stuck in this weird zone of like it's campy as hell, which makes it funny and then unintentionally funny. it also, every once in a while you ask questions about what's happening, like why does Rachel exist? And they never answer it.
Luciano (01:30:34.081)
You
Matt (01:30:46.262)
It's just like, no. And so I'm just like, why? Maybe it's the director's cut that is through Rachel. And so it's just like, is the, you know, the movie could have been tight. And so Rachel is a little girl he saves in Nazi Germany. And then.
Luciano (01:30:46.376)
That's true, we didn't even talk about her.
Spencer (01:30:57.911)
Who's Rachel again?
Luciano (01:31:01.72)
During World War II,
Spencer (01:31:03.178)
I completely forgot about that.
Luciano (01:31:06.518)
And he goes, hey, it's a kind of magic.
Matt (01:31:09.736)
Yeah. And the big reveal later on is that this woman, this blonde woman who works at his antique shop was Rachel Allalong. Yeah.
Spencer (01:31:15.69)
that was her!
Luciano (01:31:17.322)
My sweet Rachel.
Spencer (01:31:19.402)
I didn't get that.
Chris (01:31:19.62)
His adopted daughter.
Matt (01:31:20.97)
Yeah, they wanted to bang him.
Luciano (01:31:22.22)
who looks like his mom. Also that.
Spencer (01:31:24.168)
Yeah, he's not a good father figure.
Matt (01:31:27.068)
Anyways, so all of that complication aside, I also would give it a C, because it's really like... It's one of those things where I probably would watch it again even knowing how terrible it is.
Spencer (01:31:38.346)
Like I want to show people Yeah, there's there seems like like I'm going to show my wife the scene where he says Heather, please right right now Like when I get up when I leave this podcast
Luciano (01:31:39.005)
Yeah, but then you watch it for how terrible it is, right? Yeah.
Matt (01:31:41.876)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Luciano (01:31:47.33)
Heather, please!
Matt (01:31:48.32)
Yeah.
Luciano (01:31:52.45)
Yeah.
Matt (01:31:52.616)
My wife got up happy for the movie and refused to watch rest of it,
Spencer (01:31:55.946)
Hmm, that's fair.
Luciano (01:31:56.052)
My wife was watching, sort of watching with me, shoot, I had the headphones on and every time I looked at her she was like this, she was going like just, what the fuck? What is happening?
Spencer (01:32:04.202)
My wife walked in like in the second half of the movie and she was like, I thought this was movie was about like the Scottish like Highlands. I told her about it like before I watch it. I was trying to get her to watch it with me. I'm like, it's about like you'll like it. It's like the Scottish, you know, realm like these immortal beings. And then she's like, what the fuck? But she walked in that she walked in with a bald leather wearing like Clancy Brown. I'm like,
Matt (01:32:29.014)
Yeah.
Luciano (01:32:30.369)
Licking... Like licking a priest's hand?
Spencer (01:32:32.714)
Yeah. She's like, are you watching the movie? I was like, I am. Yeah, you're nailing Clancy Brown.
Chris (01:32:37.37)
I AM BUT A WORM!
Matt (01:32:39.958)
Chris, Chris, defend your honor, Chris.
Luciano (01:32:39.98)
That's pretty good, Chris.
Chris (01:32:41.946)
Thank you.
Luciano (01:32:43.095)
Yeah.
Chris (01:32:45.38)
So this movie, since like we're gonna release this video, viewers, this movie's been absolutely wasted on my fellow co-hosts. When you watch this movie, forget everything that these clowns have told you. This movie is fantastic. It's trapped in the 80s, yeah, but that's its advantage. It can do everything it does because of that framework. I still love this movie and I love what it, I don't care what face you make.
You had your time. Fuck you and you. I'm not crying. You. Silas, you had your time. This is my time. This is my review. Fuck your C rating, your C rating, and your C rating. There can be only one rating and it's a goddamn S. Take it, take it, take it and drink it with your bad milk. We don't need to agree.
Spencer (01:33:16.138)
Why are you crying though, Chris? Chris, why are you... I can see.
Luciano (01:33:32.768)
No fucking way. No, I, I, we, we need a fucking intervention.
Matt (01:33:34.368)
this.
Chris (01:33:40.28)
Because you're wrong. And so are you. And so are you. I watched all of you shit on this movie when this thing is an epic. It's a cult classic. The sequels were weak, but this movie started it all. And you also had great points, but this movie's still good.
Matt (01:33:42.198)
This feels like...
Matt (01:33:49.6)
This feels like...
Matt (01:33:53.92)
This feels like
Matt (01:33:57.824)
This feels like we may have touched a nerve with Chris.
Luciano (01:33:59.938)
A little bit, a little bit, yeah.
Matt (01:34:02.186)
He'll survive. I mean...
Chris (01:34:02.552)
No, I just disagree with you guys. Y'all live.
Luciano (01:34:03.778)
We didn't even get to ask him the questions of like, why do you hate us for picking this movie?
Chris (01:34:08.066)
It doesn't matter. I don't hate y'all. I was trying to share something fun with y'all and I'm glad you had the reactions you did, but your ratings are wrong. That's okay.
Matt (01:34:13.139)
It's,
Matt (01:34:18.401)
If your reaction is a little bit stronger than a disagreement.
Chris (01:34:21.848)
Wrong. No. I'll see y'all next week.
Matt (01:34:27.062)
I'm concerned for the day when you aggressively disagree with us if this is your slight disagreement. We'll find out next week maybe. We are going to watch Spencer.
Luciano (01:34:28.664)
I said good day sir!
Chris (01:34:31.426)
yeah!
Spencer (01:34:41.694)
Wait, wait, what about my rating?
Matt (01:34:44.841)
sorry, yes Christopher Lambert. Christopher Lambert, please give us your rating.
Chris (01:34:45.594)
You rated already! yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Spencer (01:34:49.63)
I thought I'd never get to speak again.
Matt (01:34:52.618)
You talk to the whole fucking podcast, Christopher.
Spencer (01:34:54.942)
This is Christopher Lampert's time. I for one give this movie. I give it. I agree with your crazy co-host. It is an S. And you know why?
Luciano (01:34:59.672)
I'll give this movie a C for Coke.
Luciano (01:35:12.376)
for Sean Connery.
Spencer (01:35:14.046)
You have Sean Connery playing the amazing Juan Ramirez.
It's almost as good as Mortal Kombat. And for that, I give it 10 S's. Each S more powerful than the last.
Chris (01:35:29.444)
Chris (01:35:33.402)
Yeah
Luciano (01:35:34.05)
But there can be only one Christopher.
Spencer (01:35:35.87)
There can be only one review and it is mine giving 10 S's. And because you interjected it's now 11. Don't make me make it 12.
Luciano (01:35:38.011)
S.
Chris (01:35:48.291)
You
Luciano (01:35:48.482)
Sure.
Chris (01:35:54.338)
What is Christopher Laber also sound like the count from Sesame Street?
Matt (01:35:58.294)
There's so many, so many things.
Spencer (01:35:58.378)
I give it 1S, 2S, 3S, 11S!
Chris (01:36:02.266)
Luciano (01:36:06.252)
Hahaha
Chris (01:36:10.383)
Hahaha!
Matt (01:36:12.182)
So I'm not sure how to say one of that. We're going to just skip it. Next week.
Spencer (01:36:17.418)
S is for segway. You're welcome. And now I bid you adieu.
Matt (01:36:19.456)
We... thank you. Thanks, Christopher. Thank you, Christopher. I appreciate that.
Luciano (01:36:19.72)
There you go. There you go. Thanks Chris. Chris L.
Matt (01:36:28.64)
Yeah.
great. Goodbye Christopher Lambert. Go away now. Go back to Belgium or wherever you live.
Luciano (01:36:32.598)
I thought you were French. That was terrible French accent.
Chris (01:36:39.004)
Aww. Aww.
Luciano (01:36:41.976)
Belgium or wherever you live.
Spencer (01:36:45.222)
Ha ha!
Chris (01:36:45.402)
Go get some Belgian fries, you poor man. Don't you treat, put some respect on Christopher Lam, Christopher Elsning.
Matt (01:36:53.522)
Okay, next week we're watching... the thing. The John Carpenter vehicle.
Luciano (01:36:58.133)
Wow.
Chris (01:36:58.33)
Hmm?
Luciano (01:37:02.42)
Yeah, picked by Spencer, which historically is troubling.
Matt (01:37:04.384)
John deserves it. Spencer, this is your pick.
Spencer (01:37:04.827)
Yes!
Matt (01:37:09.142)
Well, mean, listen, if 1985 wasn't going to deliver us a good movie, the only answer was to go backwards even further.
Luciano (01:37:14.776)
1982. Yeah.
Spencer (01:37:17.5)
Wow. I can't believe that this movie it's older than the movie we just watched. Cause if they feel 30 years apart.
Chris (01:37:17.54)
This guy. This guy.
Matt (01:37:20.15)
you
Luciano (01:37:21.79)
Yeah, it is.
Matt (01:37:25.952)
fine we're gonna find out when we watch the thing the 1982 John Carpenter version because it's a 2011 one which I also think John Carpenter did but he did not all right never mind that Euro sequel
Spencer (01:37:34.696)
No, he did not. No. And that's a sequel.
Luciano (01:37:40.326)
Ehh
Chris (01:37:40.674)
S is for sequels.
Spencer (01:37:42.282)
How did you know?
Matt (01:37:45.302)
You know, I'm going to save all the thing facts for when we watch it next week. So watch it and we'll talk about it.
Chris (01:37:48.154)
yeah!
Spencer (01:37:52.234)
That's a good idea.
Spencer (01:37:56.38)
is a good one.
Matt (01:37:58.038)
Goodbye.
Chris (01:38:00.566)
If can be only
Spencer (01:38:02.442)
Good.