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What The “F” Police is a no-nonsense breakdown of police activity across the United States from the perspective of a veteran LAPD detective with over 30 years in law enforcement. Each episode analyzes real police encounters — shootings, arrests, pursuits, and viral body-cam videos — explaining what happened, what policy requires from the LAPD perspective, This show isn’t about taking sides. It’s about telling the truth behind the badge.
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[00:00:00] Ten four, twelve. You've seen the video. You've heard outage. Now let's talk about what the F really happened. This is what the F Police on my way Adam made 10, 10 35. Mary.
[00:00:19] Hello, this is Michael again. My second episode of what the F Police. When I first started [00:00:30] wanting to do this, it's because, I'd seen a lot of stuff that I thought the police were doing that was just wrong or just looked bad, or. Evidence of poor training And when I first started my first episode, I said I wasn't gonna try and focus on ICE so much, but man, the stuff I see on tv, it's just horrible.
[00:00:56] I, it's, these guys are running around. [00:01:00] It just, willy-nilly book the hell. I don't care. It's just crazy when I see these guys doing this stuff. I don't know who told 'em. It's okay to do that, but all we can do, all I can do at this point is just talk about it and give my perspective.
[00:01:19] As I said, it's not necessarily trying to. What they're doing is wrong. But I'm not trying to just say that I'm, I want to think about [00:01:30] is what they're doing, is that the right thing to do? And if it's the right thing to do, then it should be okay. Let me go back and I'm gonna go back and talk about the the good shooting again.
[00:01:45] I still don't think he had any reason to shoot that woman. We've heard all these people say he was in danger, he was fear for his life. She was trying to run him over. They are looking at, all these videos. People [00:02:00] are slowing it down, blah, blah, blah. We have to remember that this.
[00:02:07] It was a live event. And I think that when people look at it, they should look at it in a live time. You shouldn't review, this is not a football game. This is not what we're trying to find out. Did the ball touch the ground? Did the tip of the ball? Is this toe dragged in? Is. The tennis ball hit the line.
[00:02:27] This is not the case. These are human [00:02:30] lives at stake and these are human beings doing this. And we should look at this as they looked at it, meaning that we look at it in real time. And I'm going to go back to it again because it, I just keep hearing people trying to say it was a good shooting. I'm gonna go back and say, was it right?
[00:02:51] Who taught him, who said it's okay to go stand in front of a car, is that the right thing to do? I don't care [00:03:00] what all the reasons are, the excuses. The fact is it the right thing to do if, when I understand this agent, I don't I, again, I think it's disrespectful to call these guys, even law enforcement, 47 days of training doesn't make you law enforcement and their actions are certainly not.
[00:03:18] What I would consider professional law enforcement. But going back to that, I know they said he had 10 years or so on the job, but he didn't act like it. So was, is it right to stand in front of the car? [00:03:30] I still don't know. Is it right? You tell me. Remember, he was in fear of his life, which is the only reason you know that you're supposed to use deadly force in fear of his life or fear of someone else's life.
[00:03:44] Having death of serious injury. He was so afraid that he had time to film this encounter on his cell phone. Who would be so afraid that you had time to film stuff? Hold a gun in one hand and [00:04:00] film it with the other hand? With the phone. On the other hand, that doesn't look like somebody who's afraid of their life.
[00:04:07] This is all aspect of their training. Or there, obviously lack of training and lack of redundancy, lack of practicing, lack of going through things over, lack of pre-planning, lack of, situational awareness, lack of they have to practice these things. You just don't go out and do police work and learn as you go.
[00:04:29] [00:04:30] We've been policing for a long time, so there's plenty of things that we've seen. The police have done wrong. And that's why we practice and that's why these rules are made up and that's why we practice and we train at it and we practice and we train at it. So I don't know what kind of practice and training these guys are doing, again, 47 days and for what I can see there inside of a building, I don't know where they do their tactical training at or how much they [00:05:00] do.
[00:05:00] That is training. Teach him to go stand in front of a car. Did his training teach him that when he was involved in a deadly force situation to film it with one hand and shoot with the other? Did they train him to do that? I don't think so. And then, we go back and then you see the bullet hole, which we assume is from the first shot because that's the only place where he was standing directly in front of [00:05:30] the vehicle.
[00:05:30] That's the only time that he's in front of the vehicle is when he fires off that first round. And that first round, as you can see, is goes low. And it's probably at a downward angle because of the way he was standing. And the bullet should have went in a downward angle and hit her Probably in the chest or in the forearm, maybe in the neck.
[00:05:57] I haven't seen autopsy report, there's rumors leaking [00:06:00] out, is that she has bullet wounds to her head. And I don't know. They don't say what side of her head the bullet wounds are. They don't say it's in the front of her head. So if they're not in the front, it had to be on the side.
[00:06:11] Again. Why did he shoot her in the side of the head? What possible threat was there? I heard people. During this whole thing with this ice and everything I've heard, even law enforcement, even old retired guys, even current law [00:06:30] enforcement, and what I know I knew it all along, but this just reinforced it.
[00:06:37] You can show people everything. You could show all the video evidence you have people come and talk to 'em, and they are still going to defend what they believe in. No matter what it's shown no evidence says no. They are still going to stick to their guns and they are going to believe what they believe.[00:07:00]
[00:07:00] So I'm not gonna be posting a lot of videos and not gonna do all this stuff. I'm just pointing out things. And because some people, no matter what you tell them, they're not going to change their mind. And I learned from all my years of policing. There's one thing we can do to people is, we can't make people do anything.
[00:07:26] We can force them. We can drag 'em from point A to point B. [00:07:30] We can drag 'em to court. We can, but can we make somebody willingly? No. We can't make anybody willingly do anything. And that's what we have to remember. We can't make people willingly do anything they don't want to do. They don't want to do it.
[00:07:48] They're not doing it. You're going to have to force 'em. In some cases, that's what has to be done. Alright going back, remember this is I'm bringing this up based mainly on their training and I'm gonna [00:08:00] reinforce that when he fired that first shot, he had two other angels. Agents downrange on the other side of that gun.
[00:08:10] I don't know where they teach that training at, where you should shoot your gun when you have your partners, fellow agents downrange of that bullet. I don't know, but maybe they teach that in ice. I also, we've been bringing up their training involving, how [00:08:30] they approach people. We have videos of them walking out, cursing people out screaming and yelling.
[00:08:37] Screaming and yelling. Who teaches people that? How do you talk to somebody is, like you don't have to respect people. People don't deserve a moment of respect again, is that what they teach at ice? That, just walk up and start cussing people out. I guess that's okay, but I don't know, where I come from, cussing [00:09:00] people out is really never okay.
[00:09:04] We're professionals. We're supposed to be able to talk to people in a dignified manner. We shouldn't be cussing people out, and then when we see them talking, we sometimes hear these agents two and three are talking to a person at the same time. We don't do that. When you have somebody, only one person should be talking at a time.
[00:09:27] Human nature is people get confused and if [00:09:30] a bunch of guys with mask on running around with guns or screaming at you, that's, that can cause confusion. That can cause panic. I'm not saying that them walking alone is not enough to cause panic, but when you throw the guns in and the multiple screaming again, is that what they train people to do?
[00:09:48] Is that okay? Is that how we should be doing police work? I don't know. You tell me. Going back to their training again and their use of force, we've [00:10:00] seen videos where they're putting choke holds on people. A choke hold, even by their standard is deadly force. We've seen them put choke holds on people, to get compliance or whatever else.
[00:10:14] A chokehold choke holds a daily force, but. I guess they teach him that in the academy, and I guess it's okay for them to do deadly force on people who do not warrant deadly force. You can't get control of somebody, [00:10:30] you don't put 'em in the choke hold. You have, handcuffs, batons, we know they have pepper spray 'cause they're spraying that stuff by the gallon.
[00:10:38] And there's many other things that you can do besides a Choke hold remember. A choke hold is considered deadly force. And deadly force is the last option. So I don't know, you tell me. Did they train them to do that?
[00:10:58] It is just, they're gun [00:11:00] retention. There's these videos. It's been circling a lot where these two agents are out in the street trying to get this guy into control. And the guy, I don't know, if the agent reaches around to get his gun, can't get it, his gun falls out.
[00:11:13] Why is he reaching in the middle of a fight to get his gun? Why? What was he going to do when he got that gun? I knew what he did. He dropped it and it was rolling around on the ground. Okay. Did they [00:11:30] train them that in the middle of a fight when you're fighting for somebody to go get your gun? Did not train them to secure their gun properly.
[00:11:40] I don't know what kind of hostess these guys are using. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just looking at it and you see a guy in the middle of a fight and then he goes to reach for his gun and then he loses control over it and it goes sliding down the street. He has to go reach over and get it, stop the fight, and go reach over and get his gun, and then [00:12:00] he points his gun at people.
[00:12:03] Again, are they taught to point your gun at people who are not? As far as I know, I could be wrong. I didn't see the other side. Were they doing something that was going to warrant deadly force? I don't know. It's just my opinion.
[00:12:20] You tell me. We've seen them. Ramming vehicles and doing all this stuff. [00:12:30] The one thing about police work that any professional law enforcement goes, one of the first things is that I was taught that we continue to preach is that we have to slow down slow. What is the rush? Slow down. There's other alternatives.
[00:12:52] I don't know. Why these guys keep trying to do some car stops. I have no [00:13:00] idea. Common sense would tell you, get 'em when they're coming outta their house when they're walking. Wait till they get to their destination and then when they get out the car, go get 'em. What is the rush and then necessary to endanger not only themselves, but the public and anybody else by getting involved in these little chases and pursuits and whatever they're doing and shooting guns at cars when all they have to [00:13:30] do is wait wherever this person is.
[00:13:35] Just wait. Wait for him to come out of his job. Wait for him to come out of his house. Just wait. That's a old thing that police have been doing for, I don't know, since it's probably been police, is surveillance is sitting and waiting. You waiting because you don't want a violent confrontation.
[00:13:56] You want to catch somebody when they're most vulnerable is when they're [00:14:00] walking down the street. That's when you got him. If you got eight or 10 guys and one guy's walking down the street, and if you can't control one guy walking down the street with eight or 10 guys, then you are completely incompetent.
[00:14:12] But so I don't know why they're not doing that. I know why, I know exactly why all this madness is going on. They are getting a bounty, a bonus, something. For doing this. Why would they be doing this? [00:14:30] Why the aggressiveness? Why the rush? It's like they're trying to get as many people as they can in a day because somebody has said, if you do 10 bodies, you're going to get a bonus.
[00:14:44] And that's the only explanation I have for that. Why people would act this way. It's like when they did those raids in here in California in Ventura County, I think it was when it went to the fields. Remember they're supposed to be getting the worse or the worse. It could be just me, [00:15:00] but I don't believe any gangsters or criminals out picking lettuce or whatever at five or six in the morning.
[00:15:07] I just, I don't believe that. Not no gangsters, criminals out picking lettuce. No. So going back to this, their training and they're still continuing to shoot at cars. They were shooting their cars in Los Angeles area the other day. They claim it was a pursuit, but there's a bullet hole in the front of the car.[00:15:30]
[00:15:30] I'm like if they're chasing this guy, how did the bullet hole get in the front windshield? I don't know. Maybe they chase in front. I don't know. Maybe they chase a car, get in front of it and they shoot at it. I don't know. I don't know. You tell me why that bullet hole is in the front windshield of that guy's car.
[00:15:49] I don't know. And with that in mind, the level. Of people trying to justify this thing. It was just astonishing. I may post one video going [00:16:00] back to the good shooting. One of the guys was the, I think it was Jake Tapper. Yeah. he's a senator, Congressman, somebody, I forget his name. And he was talking to him and the guy he had a right to shoot him, blah, blah, blah.
[00:16:12] And Taper said, okay, all right. You got the first shot. What about the second and third shots? This guy started stumbling, mumbling, and then said something about a triple tap and muscle memory. I said a [00:16:30] triple tap and muscle. What the hell is a triple tap? And what does muscle memory got to do with pulling the trigger?
[00:16:37] Remember, a police officer is responsible for every bullet that comes out of that gun. Every single one, he or she has to explain that and to hear this guy Mumble Bumble, come up with this thing. He, I don't know where he thought of that, at a triple tap and muscle memory. Okay. Do they train them to do that?
[00:16:59] Is [00:17:00] that okay? Is it okay to train somebody? You can't control yourself, so just keep shooting 'cause your muscle memory has taken over at that time. So is that okay? I don't know. And the last thing I want to just mention what I saw on TV was when they were dragging that, that older guy, this is in Minnesota.
[00:17:21] I don't know how cold it was, it was cold. Minnesota's cold. Was it below zero? Was it was cold. It was very cold and they [00:17:30] dragged this guy out and his underwear or shorts, no shirt, and I don't know if it was tennis shoes on and they have a little blanket dropped around him. Was that necessary?
[00:17:44] Did he pose that big a threat where you couldn't allow this man to put on a pair of pants and a shirt and a jacket? Was he that big a threat? Now, this is after they had ran up in this house, and you know [00:18:00] why? This is nothing but body collecting. Nothing but body collecting and body collecting. People getting paid.
[00:18:09] I know they said they brought 'em back, but the whole point is, how did they get in that house? I heard someone, again, trying to justify them. We running up in that house without a warrant, which is a fundamental thing in the United States, is your house is your castle, and people can't go [00:18:30] running up in there, and if they do, you can shoot them, blah, blah, blah.
[00:18:34] We have all these, and somebody comes in my house, I can shoot them, if they don't have a warrant. Those guys did not have a warrant. A warrant, as anyone knows, it is something or a document signed by a judge, meaning that this judge has reviewed this matter and decided that a warrant is warranted, not some ICE agent sitting in his office [00:19:00] signing paperwork and then calling it a warrant.
[00:19:02] It's not a warrant. We all saw the video, they're lined up and they're running these people's house, and then it turns out they didn't have a warrant. And so then I heard somebody, some woman, I don't know what she is, a policeman or police officer, just some random person talking about they had a judicial warrant and they believed that the guy was in the house.
[00:19:26] And so with that alone, that's enough [00:19:30] reason to run up in somebody's house. And the guy that they were looking for was not the guy. They dragged out. He looked like him. I said, how many times have police tried to use this thing? He resembled somebody. He looked like somebody, no, we are supposed to know who we are going after.
[00:19:49] Meaning that you've positively identified them. And you should know where they're at. Again, this is a situation where they're had better [00:20:00] training. There's way other solutions. First of all, if you think this guy is so harmful and he needs a warrant, go to the judge. Present your evidence to the judge and tell the judge to sign a warrant.
[00:20:14] So you go in the house, then you can run up in the house, but is that what you have to do? And what was the rush? Apparently this guy had, this thing had been outstanding for years. So what was the rush? Was he on his way out to go do whatever he did? [00:20:30] Was he on his way out? Was he about to get on an airplane or fly off?
[00:20:33] What was the rush? This guy, this, I don't know how old this thing was, but he wasn't, they wasn't running anywhere. They wasn't going anywhere. So if training had dictated them, what they should have done, what police do every day, all across? I'm not, I don't know. Is what Los Angeles Police Department does in the most cases is, if you don't have a warrant or if you do have a warrant, or if [00:21:00] you do have probable cause to arrest him, then you go to his house or it's work and you know what you do.
[00:21:09] You wait. It's called surveillance. You wait and you monitor and you wait until this person comes outside. And then once they're outside, you don't have to worry about any warrants or anything. Just let 'em, they have to come outside and then sometimes if they don't [00:21:30] come outside. Police have been very, they have been very good at doing all kind of little distractions.
[00:21:36] The old, oh, I hit your car. Is this your car out front? Yeah, man, I'm sorry. I ran into your car. Oh, okay. Come out so we could fix it up. That's a classic. Works pretty well 'cause it's nobody wants their car messed up. Start a distraction outside. Who knows? There's other things you could have done than run up in that house with all those rifles.[00:22:00]
[00:22:00] And again, when you see these guys with rifles, there's a guy, there's a part of the video, one of the guys is pointing his rifle in the window. Who are you going to shoot in the house? Why do you have a rifle pointed inside the house? You know the old saying, don't point your gun at something unless you're willing to kill it, and why would you be willing to kill some what was in that house that made you have to point a gun inside that house again?
[00:22:26] Maybe that's what they train him. Maybe that's what they do. [00:22:30] So I heard some, they're saying he had a warrant, they had a judici, not a judicial warrant, an ICE warrant, otherwise known as a detainer, and they thought he was in the house. So that gave him a right, that gave them the right to go bust in somebody's house.
[00:22:46] They don't even know if they're in there. They think they're in there and this guy matched description, and then they're saying we dragged him away because he refused to identify himself. This is America, man. [00:23:00] You don't have to identify yourself to the police. You don't have to. The police are supposed to know who they're coming to get.
[00:23:07] You don't have to. You haven't done anything. You don't have to. You have a right to remain silent. You don't have to help them. They have all the power in the world, and yet, they dragged this guy out in his shorts and in horrific weather, and then it turns out he's not the right guy. And then people try to justify it [00:23:30] by saying the other guys were in there and he resembled them.
[00:23:33] Everybody knows that's bs. But if that's how they train people, that's how they, that's how they train 'em. Oh, and this little memo they had circulating that they haven't published, or it is not on the record. And where it is, they're not telling nobody, they're not giving anybody a copy of it. They say, or just look at this and you can do that.
[00:23:52] I don't know. That sounds like underhanded training sounds like somebody trying to hide something. I could talk forever about this stuff, [00:24:00] but. That's just, their training. And that's all I wanted to talk about today. And I hope if whoever hears this, I'll send a link or something where you could drop me an email and tell me what you think.
[00:24:15] But again, these guys and their training is, they're out of control. They're out of control. And so I think it's gonna be a problem. Matter of fact, lemme go back a second again. This guy, all these [00:24:30] guys, I don't think the feds are gonna prosecute anybody. Maybe the state will, I hope, we hope, nah, maybe you shouldn't do that.
[00:24:38] I'm not gonna say that, but that's that's what I have to say today, this week about, f the police. And we talked about ICE training. I hope that if you hear this, that you hit me up and. Until next time, I'm Michael Slider with F the police goodby
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