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A Podcast more or less about Pickleball
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Speaker 1
What's the most overrated shot in pickleball?
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Speaker 2
Overrated. Wow. Let's go back in. Flick.
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Speaker 1
I'm going to say the earning.
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Speaker 2
A 12 year old wants to go out and then do, like, the most complicated thing they.
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Speaker 1
Do with the flick.
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Speaker 2
Right. Correct. But you have to. And a lot of these kids that are watching the Hayden's because he's close to their age. Oh, I want to do the flick. I want to do this. But like, you need to master the fundamentals first.
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Speaker 1
I have master the fundamental.
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Speaker 2
You have to master the fundamentals.
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Speaker 2
All right, well, back to another episode of certified. I'm your host, Matt Monash, alongside, as always.
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Speaker 1
Jason Adler.
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Speaker 2
I like that hat, Jason. Thanks. We'll get into that later.
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Speaker 1
Sure. Good week.
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Speaker 2
I don't know, it's a grown man wearing a jersey with another man's name on it. The Knicks, we all know what's going on there. We'll talk about that too. But junior MLP, another team that we like is the Palm Beach Royals. I always wear my Palm Beach Royals at yeah. Noah who I trained with a 13 year old out of here.
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Speaker 2
He's on the Palm Beach Royals Junior MLP team and is going to Austin this week to play in the junior MLB. So he's part of like he's going there early. He's going to like be able to train with the pros as well a little bit like they're having kind of like a mentoring system within the league, which I think is really cool.
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Speaker 2
And I just went down to Torrance yesterday to practice with him and he was great. We had a good two hour practice. His parents were there. We went to dinner after work, done some cool things. Actually. I'm going to share some reels, some things that I didn't think about a lot in terms of technique until we really broke it down.
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Speaker 2
Stuff on the thirds and midcourt resets, things that I don't think they're very minor. Details that I think a lot of people forget.
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Speaker 1
You know, that's an interesting point. What would you say the biggest difference is if you're talking about juniors like 14 or under, whatever, 15 or under and 17 and older adults, what are the things that you would really isolate?
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Speaker 2
Well, so okay, so we had this I had the conversation with the parents yesterday and this is very interesting, and I can only relate it to my tennis background and what I went through as a kid. And I think it's the same thing that's happening to junior pickleball players where I want people. You want people to watch the pros, right?
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Speaker 2
Like, but only to to a degree.
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Speaker 1
Right?
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Speaker 2
Because if you get obsessed with watching the pros and the highlights, a 12 year old wants to go out and then do like the most complicated thing.
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Speaker 1
They do with the flick, right?
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Speaker 2
Correct. They want they want to do. I wanted to do the Pete Sampras running forehand, and I wanted to do, you know, the big serve and the drop shot of whoever. Well like, yeah, if I can execute a drop shot and a running forehand one out of ten, but I can't execute the thousands of reps to make a backhand return in the court.
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Speaker 2
Every single time I've lost, I.
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Speaker 1
Have mastered the fundamental.
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Speaker 2
You have to master the fundamentals. I know, I know, that was a long way about to get there, but you have to. And a lot of these kids that are watching the Hayden's because he's close to their age. Oh, I want to do the flick. I want to do this. But like, you need to master the fundamentals first.
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Speaker 1
You're right. That's interesting. So it's not necessarily a specific shot or a specific technique as much as it is master.
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Speaker 2
The fundamental.
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Speaker 1
You're not going to have the power as a kid that you'll have. So it's really about technique and consistency and simple.
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Speaker 2
100% okay. Because to get to that level you need that first. And then you can add the additional and you have the fundamentals to add them in the right way.
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Speaker 1
And Hayden's a great example. Right. Because he was 1415 when he was starting like in a league. Right. And he didn't have the power, but he got so good at hanging in there with the dinks. Correct. He wasn't really.
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Speaker 2
No. It's only.
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Speaker 1
Been the last hop.
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Speaker 2
In the last two years or so. When we played with him when he was 14 or whatever it was in Pasadena. And Arcadia and all these different places. He was just like this solid kid. Yes. Like you could tell there was swag about him as a person, but it was like, I'm gonna make a million dings crosscourt. I'm gonna.
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Speaker 2
I'm gonna drill. He was driving everywhere to drill, and it wasn't about the fanciness until he got so good that that that was part of the fabric of his game. So with Noah yesterday, we did we worked a lot on just where the fundamentals need to be on the third shot drop, because there are things that he can do, things that I can even do with the ball.
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Speaker 2
But then the easiest things he can't do at times, which is like we just can't, can't have that. But he's a very I did want to give him a shout out because he's a very teachable kid, and he listens and he works hard and he does this like little like. Yeah, well, no, it's like a routine thing. Yeah, a little bit soccer soccer player first.
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Speaker 1
What by the way, footwork to which it's tough to teach like. Yeah. And footwork is very important in pickleball. But it's not the same type of footwork. You never see people teaching footwork. Whereas in basketball we learned footwork how to square up foot receivers. It's you know you're doing you're running your routes golf. You have to have a certain stance.
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Speaker 1
There's never let's talk about footwork and pickleball.
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Speaker 2
For me I know you've seen my videos that I post like whether it be with the Jaime or Pros or juniors, like most of my focus is a lot on the footwork, right?
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Speaker 1
Because that's to run around that forehand.
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Speaker 2
Well, no, but the bass, the bass, the base of all of these strokes, because you want to get you want to get in a position if you can, which is at the highest level. And when someone pushes you around the court, you're never going to always be in the perfect position. We all know that. But if you can, you want to have the paddle position in the same shot for every shot if you can.
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Speaker 2
So that means getting your footwork in the position where now my paddle can be in a position.
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Speaker 1
With footwork.
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Speaker 2
Starts.
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Speaker 1
With or if you're not in a good place there, then everything else is. Yes. Yeah. That's interesting. And just I just had a thought. What would you say. Kind of related. Kind of not what's the most overrated shot in pickleball and perhaps the most underrated shot in pickleball? I have thought.
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Speaker 2
The most overrated shot in pickleball and the most underrated shot in pickleball.
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Speaker 1
Let's start with overrated.
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Speaker 2
Overrated. Wow. Let's go back in flick. Okay. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
I'm going to say the Ernie. And it's because I know, I know, I don't know whether it's a technique shot or whether it's. But I just think too many people are attempting.
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Speaker 2
Ernie.
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Speaker 1
And they think it's cool and they think it's.
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Speaker 2
A highlight that rec.
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Speaker 1
Level and it's. Yeah. And it's just not always effective. And it throws your partner off. And so I think it's overrated. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Underrated underrated return of serve not worked on enough.
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Speaker 1
Fair I'm going.
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Speaker 2
To say with these big serves coming your way like you need a deep return.
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Speaker 1
And it doesn't have to be fast. The faster it is, the less time you have. So it can be a nice deep lob. It can be take the pace off. So return. I'm just going to say a reset. Yeah just a good reset. Just you don't have to be on offense.
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Speaker 2
Well I was trying to I was trying to tell Noah we were talking about I was trying to think of players that are like old school that you know, exactly what you're going to get with the reset every time. And I thought of Jesse Irvin. Yeah. Because she's very wide in her stance. Everything is going to be out in front.
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Speaker 2
She's like Miss Fundamental.
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Speaker 1
Riley.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. And when you watch you to practice, it's always to set the feet and to get everything out in front. Right. Like.
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Speaker 1
You know, that's like my favorite part of game I love reset.
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Speaker 2
Yes. And you have great resets. You keep everything out here. I wish the third didn't, you know, sit up high. So you had to do the reset, but.
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Speaker 1
Well, yeah, it's part of. It's part of what my my charm. But yeah Palm Beach Boys are looking good for.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. That's good. Yeah. And I think it's a, I think it's a cool concept to have the juniors involved. You know, they have four kids on each team. The pros have the full PPA experience. They've had years of, you know, either playing college tennis or growing up and having, you know, this junior friendship experience. But then for someone who's 13, like anoa, who has just now been doing solo tournaments, to have a team atmosphere, I think is nice, it's important what I think is interesting about pickleball in terms of the fandom right now.
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Speaker 2
I actually had this conversation the other day just about the two leagues. Like with with PPA and MLP. I think you're starting to see real fandom around players, like people are coming to PPA events and chanting Anna Bright and Annalee and Ben and Tyson and Thomas and Hayden and you can name 30. Like people come and actually bring signs for Roscoe, for Hunter, for Chris Hayworth.
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Speaker 2
Like, people love these players. You go to Cincinnati and the twins, people are driving to watch them from Indiana. So like you're getting fandom for players. And then I think it's just interesting because then now you're asking a pretty small group of people in comparison to NBA and all these others to now say, all right, we want you to take this fandom for the individual and now place it towards a team.
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Speaker 2
And I think it's a really unique ask where we are in our sport because like, how do you build how do you build momentum. Because then you're going to ask, well, season's over. We've asked you now to go for the team, and now we're asking you to go back to the player again.
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Speaker 1
That's been the question from day one with MLP. And I would say two things. One, you can try to find that the Ben John's fans on the other LA mad drops fans. Right. So there's some carryover. The other thing is, you know, creating that consistency where the teams are local and the same players are there for three years.
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Speaker 1
And so you start to get that following and you have a home and away schedule. And that's as we spoke with Matt drops owner Alex. Yeah. Jess Bray Jess Bray. Yeah I didn't need to say his last name, but thank you. We'd love to say it now. Jazz bro.
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Speaker 2
I like to say it now because I know it.
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Speaker 1
I feel like, you know, that's the goal right there. Trying to create a new product that is a team element in a sport that's traditionally like tennis, which is teams of two.
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Speaker 2
Because with with the Knicks you could have the casual girl at the bar not to make it male or female, but you can have the casual grow the bar that oh, I'm a Nix fan and not name one person on the team potentially. Right? I mean, at this point you should be.
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Speaker 1
Able to tradition for. Yeah, right. Yeah. Right. But that's different. Those are traditionally team sports. Tennis. You're a federal fan. You're in a fan. You're a joke. But but that's what they've created with pickleball. And it is a fun college dynamic. Right. So that's the most similar is like USC or Purdue or you know you're playing one through eight.
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Speaker 1
And so you know I think we want it to succeed. We all do. But they're still figuring it out I think they've gotten better. They're making strides in the right direction. And LA Madras we want to support you. We want.
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Speaker 2
To.
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Speaker 1
Support that's like that's how you do it. You start, you know.
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Speaker 2
By the way, they have junior MLP now as well.
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Speaker 1
This is.
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Speaker 2
Which is.
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Speaker 1
Good.
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Speaker 2
Sign which okay let's let's move on to what you're wearing on your chest.
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Speaker 1
Dude I mean I know a lot of people are like whatever jumping on the bandwagon next. It is a historic series. We haven't had the Knicks in the final since 99. It happened to be against the Spurs. But you know, this has been one of those fun finals to watch. It's now two one, but I think the Knicks are going to do it.
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Speaker 1
I'm psyched. I grew up going to Knicks games. This is like a Marcus Camby jersey. So the diehards know back in the street well, 50.
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Speaker 2
Three years.
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Speaker 3
We wanted a big deal man. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
It's a big deal. You're a Pittsburgh guy.
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Speaker 2
The Penguins fan. I'm a penguin.
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Speaker 1
Steelers have won 53 years a long drought like it was before I was born. Right. So that's I've got a whole lifetime without seeing them win. And MSG is a historic.
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Speaker 2
How many games have you been to in your life?
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Speaker 1
20 to 30 games. Yeah. Growing up I. I'm not paying those prices. No, $100,000, $5,000.
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Speaker 2
So there's a lot of I think there's a lot of topics to discuss about the Knicks right now.
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Right. So so first. Yes. Like I'd like to see the next win and sound like I'm not. No I'm not I'm not at all. I'm not a fan. But I'd like to see them win. But I think because.
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Speaker 1
You're wearing this jersey, if they do that's an Anthony Tyson sign jersey.
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Speaker 2
I'll gladly wear.
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Speaker 1
My brother gave me from home.
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Speaker 2
Okay, great.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Great. To make me wear something.
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Speaker 2
It doesn't matter to me. So I'm I'm an adult. So they do studies, by the way. You go through certain maturation processes as a as through through your life span. Right. As a kid you're way more devoted to teams and different things like this. You're like fanatical as you grow up. You should get out of that. So I think it's I think it's very strange that all these people are coming out of the woodwork.
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Speaker 2
Oh.
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Speaker 3
Die.
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Speaker 2
Hard like Nick's got to travel everywhere to go to the game. Oh, I couldn't miss it. I'm gonna spend all this like, dude, you're. You don't own the team. You don't play on the team. Whether they win or lose has no real impact. Yes you can. You can root and want to win and watch the game. Sure, schedule around it, but it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1
There's a whole New York fan base you're talking to right now, Matt. A whole New York family. Now, listen, I hear you to a degree, like, I think to be so emotionally invested to the point where you're, like, rioting or depressed when they lose a game like, that's next level. But I do think there are shared experiences that you have with your family, with your kids growing up.
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Speaker 1
There's you know, I remember watching Jordan play here. I remember the Starks, Ewing days and Mason and, you know, Charles Oakley. And it's part of our pastime, right? For sure. So for some people, it really is about, you know, family and connection.
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Speaker 2
That part I understand. That's why you get into it. And then, yes, you can pass it on to you then your kids and there's there's a bonding aspect. But if you're a 55 year old guy and you're like fanatical to me, it's it's just a little weird.
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Speaker 1
I don't disagree.
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Speaker 4
European soccer.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. We we talked.
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Speaker 1
About those people live and die for their teams and they will kill at games. They literally have separate the fans and have armed guards, policemen to protect. So it's that's next level fanaticism, right?
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Speaker 2
Go ahead. I don't know if I have a clear answer on that because I didn't grow up in that culture. There's something about Europe and these different leagues and how it's like almost tied into your family, and then your response is going to be like, that's the same for us in New York with our Knicks.
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Speaker 1
But like, no, that's next level, right? But soccer, European soccer.
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Speaker 2
There's something about it. It's like in their fabric and I don't I just because I can't.
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Speaker 1
They grow up.
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Speaker 2
I can't relate to that.
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Speaker 1
Right. And I would say like if you go to a Philly New York game or a Boston, New York game, that's as close as you'll get. These fans will literally want to kill. And I think that's disgraceful. And I think you see kids and people are cursing and.
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Speaker 2
Like like what happened. Like I've seen you saw so many videos of the on Monday night when people were leaving that stadium in like there was a kid that was like literally minding his own business in his Spurs jersey. And people start going in like a lot of people. And then there was a push. And then the person who was.
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Speaker 1
Standing, watching.
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Speaker 2
And it just like this guy had to be taken to the.
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Speaker 1
Hospital.
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Speaker 2
And it's like, what are we doing here? They're there. Did you see the guy that was ripping apart the city, like they were taking out a street sign, and they were like going back and forth, and then some guys like, guys, this is our city. Why are we destroying our own city?
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Speaker 1
Say that about all the riots and.
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Speaker 2
No, but but why are we writing after a game? It's it's game three. It is insanity.
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Speaker 1
No lives. They are. They're miserable. And I'm sorry. Like, if you're going to go burn down stores and you're going to go tear up and they win, they do that too, right? I don't.
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Speaker 2
Get it. That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1
People if lowlifes.
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Speaker 2
If the Knicks win.
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Speaker 2
Either.
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Speaker 1
But if they lose, it could.
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Speaker 2
Be worse. Did you hear Metta World Peace? What's his real name? Ron Artest, Ron Artest, he's like, we don't we don't need billions of dollars worth of damage in New York. Maybe a couple hundred million, but not billions. And it's like, what do I stop?
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Speaker 1
Well, he has never been known to be like an inspirational speaker. Correct. The guy was part of the worst brawl we've ever seen in Detroit. That was crazy. They literally jump in the stands and start fighting with fans. So I don't know. There's cultural problems when you start getting into that stuff and people are willing to riot. I don't know, but we're definitely getting into some, some, some weeds.
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Speaker 2
And the ticket prices and it's just so celebrity like pick me, like I'm going to be seen in the front row because it's like a cool thing to do right now. Well, yeah. And that bothers.
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Speaker 1
Hypocrisy too. In the same people that are saying the tax the billionaires and take the rich, and yet they're also willing to spend money. It's clearly a class thing.
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Speaker 2
For sure.
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Speaker 1
Sure. There's got to be some some groundedness. And I think the cheapest ticket for a New York game at one point was $4,500. Whereas what is it? 27 years ago it was $50, right. And that's $100 today. So that that inflation doesn't matter. It's literally.
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Speaker 2
That's the math. Ain't math.
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Speaker 1
The math ain't math. No, I get it. I mean, it's obnoxious, but it is what it is. We have a class system. We have a huge you know, there's always been a wealth gap. And this just it's the same when you get on a plane and you walk through first class.
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Speaker 2
This became a political podcast all of a sudden.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Listen, no, we haven't even gotten close to that.
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Speaker 2
Where are we? Film our podcast, passes, passes studio. It's beautiful studio that houses certified. We had well, you ran a town. I missed that, but we had a pickleball clinic with like 16 of the employees here at pastor's headquarters at Griffin Club. On Friday, they all came out. I had my nice Yola paddles all set up for them.
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Speaker 2
Evan Berger filled in for your youth since you were on a little trip. So he was he was my assistant for the day, and we had a really good. Yeah. And we had a really good a really good clinic. They were surprisingly very athletic. Well.
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Speaker 1
Why surprisingly, I see the people walking around there in great shape.
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Speaker 2
They're in great shape. But I mean it's this is a creative team, right? They're all creatives. Yeah I mean there's a lot of execs. There's different different you know there's HR marketing.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. No I get it because you're not creative.
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Speaker 2
I'm not creative.
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Speaker 1
But there are people who can do and creative. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
So you consider yourself one of those people?
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Speaker 1
I'm very creative.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. What are you, a painter?
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Speaker 1
No, just. I use the left and right side of my brain.
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Speaker 2
Matt. Finger painting from just just just thumb. Thumb paintings. There you go. You do like the handprints, and people think someone cut off one of your face.
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Speaker 1
Actually an advantage, man, because. And, you know, if I ever get arrested or something, they're just going to be like, what? These are not real.
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Speaker 2
We did. So when we we what I love to do at the beginning of anything with adults for these clinics, I love to do like what you do in recess when like you have to like do a warm up. So I line everyone up on the side of the courts and I'm like, all right, we're running there and back, and then I and then I let everyone pick an exercise like high knees, straight legs, karaoke step, whatever.
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Speaker 2
And it's like kind of a fun thing because no one outrage or even like after college age does that anymore. And it's always like a very fun thing. And they.
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Speaker 1
Love that. Maybe you are creative, I but it was funny because you you led with when I have adults. So I was thinking it's going to be more of an adult themed thing that you're going to say. And you go, I like to treat it like it's recess.
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Speaker 2
No. And they love that because they're like, it's something that's so new and they're like, oh my God, this is like so fun. We're like, back and we're back in recess. Can be kids again.
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Speaker 1
Nothing better than when you see grown people acting like kids because they're truly at their there's having so much fun in the moment.
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Speaker 2
Because all of us, at the end of the day, are our kids trying to live this adult life. But.
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Speaker 1
You know, some have never grown up. Correct? That's right.
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Speaker 2
Patrick.
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Speaker 1
No, I'm bummed that I missed it. Obviously, I had my I had my 25th union at Cornell. Big Red, go big red. So was there any type of competition?
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Speaker 2
So we did live ball and then we did some different, just like normal games back and forth. So they actually didn't love live ball that much as much as they love to like then just go and play actual games, which I thought was cool. I think some people like.
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Speaker 1
Them live balls more of a workout. It's not like you're playing a game, it's just a workout. So people love it like a berries, correct? But when you actually want to play and you want to compete.
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Speaker 2
And when you're I think when you're learning.
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Speaker 1
Learning you want to work on shot.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. And you want to. So they like they like to play. And I think they like the competition of like all right, we're going to play a full game against two other people. Not like two points and out and two points out.
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Speaker 1
You got to learn the scoring. You got to learn the side out stuff. And you don't get that in live.
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Speaker 2
Right. So how was how was Ithaca.
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Speaker 1
New York? Speaking of, this is my 25th reunion crazy. I'm 40. I'll be 47. So I'm 46. But a bunch of my fraternity brothers and I've been talking about this for months, but it's also like the five year, the ten year, the 15 year, the 20 year, the 20. So there's like tens of thousands of people that go to this.
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Speaker 1
I went to my ten year. That's the last time I was there in 2011. And it was amazing being back on campus, beautiful campus. A lot has not changed. Some has changed. There's no more like the bars that we used to go to in College Town weren't there. The fraternity systems changed a lot. It's almost non-existent, but we were able to sort of finagle our way back into our house.
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Speaker 1
We had a catered meal, we sang some songs.
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Speaker 2
And school was out. At this point.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, it's.
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Speaker 2
Like, yes, couple weeks ago.
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Speaker 1
And then they have these huge tents up on the Arts quad and these different parts of the campus and just of people, a few different tents. There's a live 12 person orchestral like band over here. There's a karaoke tent here, and then there's like the all the young, the young kids where you felt old in the in the main tent when they had the Knicks game on one night.
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Speaker 1
And so we're all going nuts on the next one. And it was just like a lot of.
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Speaker 2
Where are these people all coming from? Are a lot like East Coast.
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Speaker 1
Flying in from LA was tough.
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Speaker 2
And everyone comes solo to this. Or do some people bring their families.
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Speaker 1
About their families? Which I don't know. I think if you're maybe at a different time, but if you're there to like, catch up with your buddies and have like a night two nights, you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 2
And these fraternity brothers, they were your year, essentially.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, that's the whole point, right?
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Speaker 2
They're all graduated. Yes. 25. Yes. Got it, got it.
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Speaker 1
Right.
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Speaker 2
And these are people you keep in touch with. Fairmount. You're on a group chat.
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Speaker 1
Yes, some more than others. But yeah, we all collectively stayed in touch. Ten of our 15 pledge costs were there.
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Speaker 2
Is everyone pretty successful? What's the what's. The group.
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Speaker 1
Is looking good. A couple people are like certified.
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Speaker 2
Certified.
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Speaker 1
They listen, see your clips and they'd be like, that was certified. I thought it was hilarious. Shout out to Ellie Rodriguez.
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Speaker 2
So did you run into some of the women you knew? Yes. In the.
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Speaker 1
Day we had like a mixer. We went to a wine tasting. We didn't know that this whole other.
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Speaker 2
Were you guys nervous to talk to the women?
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Speaker 1
It's kind of weird. At first, I was clicky, like, going.
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Speaker 2
For, like, inside the girls.
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Speaker 1
Totally. And we used to have those mixers in our fraternity, and, like, with DG and Pi and Kappa and you know.
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Speaker 2
Who's going to talk to her first?
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Speaker 1
Yeah, dude, 100%. And it kind of brought me back to those days. And it was just.
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Speaker 2
Like any girls that you had hooked up with in the past that were there, that you saw. No. Okay.
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Speaker 1
No, I don't think so. No. All right. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
It's a good question.
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Speaker 1
It's a great question. But yeah, man, it was it was really, really a fun trip down memory lane.
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Speaker 2
I like.
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Speaker 1
That it's some rapid fires.
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Speaker 2
Rapid fire. Rapid fire. Let's go.
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Speaker 1
All right. So we are going to do a rapid fire. Questions. Let's go. Rapid fire.
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Speaker 2
Let's go.
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Speaker 1
I'm ready. Okay. Ben Johnson LeBron James.
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Speaker 2
Ben Johnson.
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Speaker 1
Pickleball paddle or cell phone for a week.
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Speaker 2
Pickleball paddle.
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Speaker 1
PBA Triple Crown or free pizza for life. Triple Crown. Never speed up again or never lob again.
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Speaker 2
Do you know what a Triple Crown would do for my career? I think you can get it right. Yeah, exactly. And I couldn't afford pizza. I can't buy it.
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Speaker 1
Never speed up again or never lob again.
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Speaker 2
Never lob again. Okay, I have a great lob though.
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Speaker 1
I would probably go the other way. Coffee or energy drinks?
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Speaker 2
Energy drinks.
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Speaker 1
Singles or doubles? Doubles Vegas trip or family vacation?
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Speaker 2
Family vacation 100% Vegas sucks.
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Speaker 1
Did okay with your family? I'm kidding.
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Speaker 2
We take cool trips.
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Speaker 1
I know, I know all or Anna Bright as a partner.
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Speaker 2
Al dub.
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Speaker 1
Gold medal or viral clip.
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Speaker 2
Viral baby, let's go.
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Speaker 1
The world number one for one year or top ten for ten years.
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Speaker 2
Well, number one, yeah.
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Speaker 1
He didn't say for one year, though. He wanted world number one and hope that it could.
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Speaker 2
That continues. No, but world number one you never take that away. I could always say in world number.
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Speaker 1
One out of ten David Duval situation.
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Speaker 2
It's fine. Well number one I could work with that. All right, all right. Should we wrap it up? A lot of people have heard us talking a lot today, and we.
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Speaker 1
Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2
And we appreciate it because people message me now and they message you, I'm sure. Yeah. Do people message your friends and then. Yeah. No, they they they say we love it. Kirk Maddock in Indiana, he messaged me about about about the pod and he asked me about my opinion on something about defense between Anna Lee and Jade Kyle.
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Speaker 1
You're like, I don't have time.
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Speaker 2
For that. And I was like, did I say that on the podcast? She's like, it's right here. And I'm like, oh, well, whatever.
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Speaker 1
That doesn't.
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Speaker 2
Remember something. He says.
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Speaker 1
You can, he'll say anything.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. But anyway, we appreciate you all listening. Smash the like button, tell your friends about it. Send it. There's there's always a little link that says share. You could share it to your friends. But that was another great episode. Go Knicks! Can't wait to wear that jersey when they win the title. Yeah, so I'm excited. Could be another good week and we'll see you next week.
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Speaker 2
It's certified.
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Speaker 1
Nasty over now.
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Speaker 4
Just give me some looks.