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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So I'm sure if you've been watching this show, you've been following and tracking the progress of the pandemic treaty, where the WHO treaty, the amendments, what it means, how it affects our own rights. And so according to my guest today, James Roguski, who I've had on multiple times to discuss this, the narrative that is being pushed, not to say pushed in a nefarious way, but being believed in and also multiplied within a lot of the channels like, you know, even myself, for instance, that are saying this is actually not right. And it's more of a red herring that is distracting us from the bigger picture of the role of the pandemic treaty, the role of the WHO, and even the role of COVID and the whole pandemic and what it did.
Seth Holehouse:And that it's actually something much bigger than a vaccine rollout program or anything, but more of like a the laying and building out the infrastructure for an instantaneous global pandemic response. So, folks, please enjoy the interview with James Rogusky. Mr. James Rogusky, it is always a pleasure to have you on. You have very important information, as usual.
Seth Holehouse:And again, you know, thank you for being here, and I'm looking forward to this one.
Speaker 2:Well, thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to it as well. So let's just dive right in.
Seth Holehouse:Perfect. So there was a huge celebration in the past couple of weeks over the perceived failure of the pandemic treaty to get the the amendments, everything passed through. And, you know, it it felt like it was this big win against the globalists that our collective efforts have thwarted this initiative for the WHO to seize control of our governments and to shred the constitution. And it it was, you know, a pretty big win, and there's lots of celebratory, you know, social media posts and interviews and everything. But when I've I've been listening to some interviews of you recently, I know you're on with Sarah Westall recently, Sean SGT report, and it seems like it was almost a bait and switch, and that there's something else, maybe even more more nefarious or that things are still moving.
Seth Holehouse:And so I I think it's important to really dive into what's really happening. And when it comes to understanding what's happening within the WHO and these organizations, you're the person I think of when I wanna say, okay, what's really going on? So I'll just hand it over to you. And wherever you wanna take it, I'll just I'll follow along.
Speaker 2:Well, with the things that you said in in, you know, your statement that you just made right now, I'll start from the point of view of oops. Okay? You know, the game ain't over until it's over. And early celebrations of victory if you've ever watched a football game where someone's running for a touchdown and they're on the 10 yard line and they think they've got it made and they start celebrating or they get tackled or they spike the ball, and then they do the replay and you're like, oh my god. Right?
Speaker 2:Well, about two months ago, I started hearing people claiming, oh, you know, we've already won. You know? And I was like, wait a minute. So I spent a good couple of hours over a couple of days watching sports clips of people running a road race, and they celebrate before they cross the finish line, and then somebody comes zipping right past them or, you know, an auto race or a motorcycle race or, you know, football or even, like, soccer. Like, you know, it it hit the pole on on the goal, and it had some backspin, and the goalie's all celebrating, but then the ball's slowly rolling into the goal.
Speaker 2:Embarrassing as all heck. I don't ascribe intent to anything. It's almost impossible to say, you know, people had this, that, or the other intention. What it comes down to is I've thought that it's important to add to mis, dis, and mal information the concept of old information. And so I've seen videos that have resurfaced from two years ago that when people find it and then they republish it and they put it out and it has a new date on it, people who've never seen it before think it's brand new.
Speaker 2:Well, it might have been accurate way back when. I mentioned this before we started talking. If you have a favorite sports team, and six months ago, they just horrible. They were losing, and they just were really, really bad. And then you pick up a report, you know, newspaper, you read an article or something, and now they're in first place about to win a championship.
Speaker 2:You've got to go, wait a minute. I thought they were doing horrible. In that issue, you understand that things change. Okay? And so what has happened is in these negotiations, there's, you know, the original intent.
Speaker 2:There's reports. There's documents. There's negotiations. There's things that change. And in the last month, man, things have been changing rapid fire.
Speaker 2:And the neuroplasticity of being able to bring in new information and go, oh, that's new information. Oh, okay. Here's what it was. Here's what it is. Let's report on what is as opposed to what we hope might be happening, what we thought was happening, so forth and so on.
Speaker 2:Okay. So you can see why, things get misrepresented, you know, reported in a way that is influenced by people's hopes and dreams and old information. So let me go back to the beginning and put a bigger picture view on all of this. In short, what I have learned from the last four and a half, five years in in really, really tight summary is masks don't stop a respiratory infection. If anything, they might cause it.
Speaker 2:Now there's still a lot of people in the world who think the opposite of that. They're still wearing masks. The thing that people got stuck up their nose halfway into their brain, you know, scraping some tissue off your nasal pharynx, the first time I saw that, I said, why? You know? Why?
Speaker 2:You know? That's crazy. And it's not a swab. It's you know? They're taking some tissue.
Speaker 2:Well, where's the DNA going, and what are they doing with it? And what does that really tell you? Oh, wait a minute. They're using a PCR process to claim that someone who's asymptomatic is a case? There are people who are still submitting themselves to that abuse.
Speaker 2:I have had a conversation. Now granted this is secondhand, but I I believe the person. They had a group of women who were talking amongst themselves, and they had agreed we're not doing the jab. We're not doing the tests, you know, none of that sort of thing. But one of the women got coerced by her daughter to get tested in order to see her grandchildren.
Speaker 2:Now when you look at the insanity of that, you know, children weren't suffering from COVID, and that didn't mean anything, but the woman succumbed to the pressure from family and it damaged that tissue. She ended up leaking cerebral fluid, ended up paralyzed. That is not, you know, nothing. That is an invasive battery. It's a salt and battery.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I learned. Drugs like Remdesivir, which I call run death is near. Two years ago, more, on January 21, when I read the report from the FDA that they had approved it for outpatient use, injectable form, outpatient use for COVID in children who had to be eight pounds or more. I'm like, that's insane. K?
Speaker 2:But there it is. Well, that got me booted off the Internet. I had my website hosting company take down all the stuff I've been doing for a decade, figured I might have been right over the target. With the JABS, you know, Johnson and Johnson and AstraZeneca are gone from the marketplace, you know, for good reason, but it took years. And Pfizer and Moderna are left standing.
Speaker 2:You know? How that's, you know, still going on is astonishing. But it's more than that. That's the platform that has, you know, been approved as safe and effective, not just for COVID, but, you know, now they want everything to be that mRNA platform. And, you know, I wonder how many people are understanding that if you accept what they say, k, which I don't, but for sake of conversation, if you accept with they, everybody goes, well, who's they, Jim?
Speaker 2:They is the hierarchy enslaving you, t h e y. What they say about that, platform, the mRNA lipid nanoparticle, you know, encapsulated mRNA platform, is that if you inject that into your arm, they say, well, it stays in your arm, which we know it doesn't, it goes everywhere in the body, those fatty, bubbles, if you will, merge with the membranes of cells throughout your body. Every cell membrane is a fatty, you know, lipo it's essentially a liposome, right? And so the fatty tissue that is, I call frankenlipids in the lipid nanoparticle, because they're fats that don't exist in nature and are incredibly toxic, merge so that it delivers the payload to various cells in your body so that that cell is triggered to manufacture what they've defined as a toxic protein so that your immune system is triggered to attack you. Now, if that's going on in your liver, in your kidneys, and ovaries, and and brain, and nerve system, and everything else, how does that protect you from a respiratory pathogen?
Speaker 2:If your body makes any blood borne antibodies, they don't cross into the lungs. How did you fall for that story? Well, those and many other things are what I think I've learned over the last four and a half years, because nobody was thinking about those things prior to COVID. But that's not what the people at the WHO and all of the delegations and the 400 relevant stakeholders, the nonprofit organizations, that's not what they learned. What they learned was that big pharma was not big enough.
Speaker 2:When they rolled out the jabs and when COVID came, you know, there wasn't enough or there weren't enough masks to go around. There wasn't enough remdesivir. Right? The United States sort of cornered the market for a good period of time. They didn't have enough of the diagnostic testing kits.
Speaker 2:So if you look at the data in this casedemic, the countries that could afford to just pump out billions of test kits had more cases. And the nations who didn't really do that testing, they didn't have very many cases. Now what the reality really is, you know, was it just the flu that was rebranded because the test kits were bogus? You know, you can follow the official narrative that it came from a wet market. You can follow the official counter narrative that it was a lab leak, or you could go, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 2:That's the standard ploy to trick people to argue. What's the truth? That's a whole another story. Well, what they learned was that big pharma did not have capacity globally to propagate this fraud on 8,000,000,000 people. They had capacity in the wealthier nations, so there was more COVID in The United States than almost anywhere.
Speaker 2:There was, you know, more cases, more problems, more everything, and they didn't have the ability to roll out the masks and the tests and the drugs and the jabs everywhere in the world. Now when these negotiations started, the purpose of the negotiations was a couple of different things. One of them was that the poor nations said to the WHO that they wanted the WHO to oversee negotiations so that they would have equitable access to pandemic related products. They weren't getting enough of this wonderful stuff. And one of the phrases that they use, and they just used it the other day, is global public good.
Speaker 2:Now, you know, that's neurolinguistic programming. Right? Global for the public and it's good. Well, what a global public good is is something that is available in universal supply. Think sunshine.
Speaker 2:Right? You can go get sun, and if you go rest in the sun, maybe make some vitamin D. That's not gonna get in the way of me getting all the sunshine that I need. Yeah. It might be cloudy, but you get the point.
Speaker 2:You can breathe all the air you wanna breathe, and I still have enough air to breathe. You know, you're not taking away my air. This video is a global public good. Somebody can watch this video, and it's not gonna mean that somebody else is not gonna be able to watch it because you watched it once and now it's gone. Same thing with a book in a library or a PDF that you might download.
Speaker 2:Unlimited supply, you know, good can be shared with everybody. They want pandemic related products to be so ubiquitous that it's seen as a global public good. Unlimited supply produced everywhere. Now what happened was Bangladesh and the African nations submitted amendments. They wanted a new article 13 a in the international health regulations that said a couple of things.
Speaker 2:One of them was they wanted an allocation mechanism. They wanted the director general to direct traffic, and if if he got a report that something was going on, let's just say in West Africa, he would go to The United States or The UK or Germany or wherever and say, hey, you manufactured something that they need, so you gotta make it and send it to them.
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Speaker 2:Well, in September, October, November, December of '20 '20 '2 and actually, starting in October, and then January and February of twenty twenty three, TEDRO has put together a review committee to evaluate the amendments that were proposed by the nations. This was not amendments that came from the WHO to try to take over the world or attack your national sovereignty or set up Tedros to be your doctor or direct policy in your nation. This was the nations saying that they wanted the WHO to be the forum to come up with a treaty to ensure equitable access to pandemic related products. Now the other thing that they asked for in article 13 a had to do with intellectual property and what they essentially look at as sovereign biological resources. That phrase is actually in the still being negotiated treaty where nations like South Africa and Botswana, when they handed over the genetic sequence for Omicron, they didn't get a piece of the very lucrative pie when that information ended up in the boosters.
Speaker 2:And Pfizer and Moderna and other maybe others made a whole bunch more money. So one of the amendments that they proposed was, we're not giving you any stinking intellectual property, you know, biological resource, information, unless you share the benefits. So the ongoing negotiations about the pathogen access and benefit sharing system is really why these negotiations were happening. So what you're looking at is an argument over money. It's always been a trade deal and an intellectual property argument.
Speaker 2:Nobody in the room has ever said a word. Not one word was spoken or written about, hey, guys. The masks and the tests and the drugs and the jabs, they don't really work. Why are we even having this discussion? Well, that's not permitted because the point is the WHO is the marketing and distribution and promotion tail that's being wagged by the big pharma dogs.
Speaker 2:Their budget is $4,000,000,000 a year. You know, that's like one product for one pharmaceutical company on any given year. So you just look at the scale of who's running the show here. It's not the WHO. It's big pharma.
Speaker 2:And all of the nations like The United States and the EU and Germany and so forth, UK, if you look at what they said in these negotiations, they were not standing up for the health of the people. They were shilling for big pharma. Well, the smaller nations, all of the oligarchs who would like to have a piece of the pie, are pushing back, trying to take a bite out of big pharma and bring it into their country so that they can profit from it because they handed over the genetic information and they're being asked to go find more, so that the fear mongering can continue. And they're like, no. We're not we don't wanna do that.
Speaker 2:We want a piece of that. So if you're familiar with the idea of if a man is hungry and you give him a fish, you feed him for a day. But if you teach him how to fish, he's sad for a while. The nations were asking for to be fed for a day. The analogy is if they needed something, if they needed masks, if they needed jabs or drugs, some nation would provide it.
Speaker 2:That was the ask. What they settled in on and what was adopted on June 1 was so much bigger than that. They set up a very vague coordinating financial mechanism to funnel money through all of these various funding sources to build out the infrastructure all around the world, and it literally says geographically distributed manufacturing, so that all of these nations, were not being given a fish. They're being given a factory or, you know, laboratories or, you know, testing facilities or whatever it may be, as an investment to make all that they might ever want. And so what we're dealing with here is a massive build out of the industry that I think is trying to kill people slowly so that they can suck all of the money out of every nation and every person on the planet and redirect it into the coffers of big pharma.
Speaker 2:Now the people involved, if you try to determine their intent, good luck. I don't know how to get into somebody's head and see if they're lying or telling the truth. You can only go on their actions, and they honestly seem to truly believe that they're helping the world and that the way to prevent the next pandemic is to go looking for scary, you know, pathogens with pandemic potential, bring them into a WHO coordinated laboratory network, identify the genetic sequence, hand that over to the pathogen access and benefit sharing system to turn it into products to put into the WHO distribution and logistics network. They've got one distribution hub in Dubai that they're proud of. It's got 20,000 square meters, which is like four football fields.
Speaker 2:So the opportunity for corruption and crony capitalism You know, I've dubbed this the new OPEC. It's not the oil producing and exporting countries. That's a cartel that tries to set prices and, you know, make profit. This is the organization of pandemic emergency corporations. They wanna keep people scared.
Speaker 2:The Hegelian dialectic is you create a problem, you get people to be afraid, and then you show up with the solution, and the money flows. And so they accomplished an agreement on intellectual property across town at the World Intellectual Property Organization on Friday, May, which says that if a patent is applied for that includes genetic information, they have to name the source. And you could see that that would be important for tracking royalties and so forth. And so that agreement came on the Friday before the Monday that the assembly began. So on Tuesday, instead of failing to meet an agreement, the powers that be said, hey, look at what just happened.
Speaker 2:Let's keep negotiating. So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, you know, into the late hours of the night, early hours of the morning, and on into Saturday, they hammered out an agreement and adopted amendments to the international health regulations. They didn't manage to conclude the treaty, but they managed to say, well, let's keep going. They've got, negotiation set for July, and they're hoping to get it done by the end of the year. And it was stated just the other day in a a report that I I did.
Speaker 2:I had to get up at 03:30 in the morning to watch their 04:00 in the morning, production. And they literally said, well, you know, there's an election in The United States in November, and that's gonna make it really hard if we don't get it done before. So they're gonna do their best to put that negotiation together, maybe call a special session of the World Health Assembly, because the Biden administration is one of the main proponents of all of this because big pharma rules our nation. Let's just say it for what it is. You know?
Speaker 2:If if you look at how much money has come out of the federal government in spending on health care since Medicare and Medicaid began, I think you'll find our $34,000,000,000,000 deficit has primarily just shifted over to big pharma. And they own us. They own every representative and congressperson. If anybody knows of a government official who has worn off campaign contributions from the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex, let me know. There might be one or two, but the vast majority of them get their funding just like the media gets their funding from big pharma.
Speaker 2:So we're under the control of Pharmakia. And, you know, the WHO is this little tiny tail that they're wagging to build out their industry with money, that they don't wanna spend. They want all of these other organizations and countries, you know, to build out the industry because they're all under this, you know, influence of we need more big pharma as if they're not big enough already. So thanks for letting me rant for twenty minutes or whatever. But, you know, my take on that is, we got our butt swept by the beast of big pharma who you know, a lot of information has been spreading around the Internet about how we won or the treaty has been defeated or the WHO has failed.
Speaker 2:And I'm looking at it going, well, it seems like big pharma got what they wanted. And the treaty, while it didn't pass, it did not get rejected. It just got extended, you know, kinda like went into overtime, if you wanna carry on the sports analogy. Man, you know, the the battle is not won. It is not over.
Speaker 2:It has barely just begun.
Seth Holehouse:So there's a lot that I've just absorbed in that, which is which is really key information. Because I think that for a lot of us that are, you know, seeking out the alternative truth, you know, channels like this. Right? We're trying to understand what's really happening, and it's really really darn confusing. Because you think it's it's this, and you realize, well, that's being controlled by this, and it just gets so complicated, and you end up down these rabbit holes where you come out from it, you can't tell left from right, up from down.
Seth Holehouse:And so what I'm taking from this, and and and I think it's really important that I'll just I'll preface this in saying that I'm trying to approach as I try to with most of my interviews and and most of my research, I almost try to pretend I don't know anything as I enter in. Because that way I can take things in, anew. And because I think a lot of times, we form this idea of what we think is right. And when we do our research, we're only actually honing in on the elements of the research that confirms what we already thought to be true. And I think it's a way that we can really work ourselves into
Speaker 2:Confirmation bias.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Absolutely. And so, this, while my previous belief and perception was okay that the pandemic treaty, you know, in a lot of what COVID did was it gave the WHO this overreaching power, this absolute authority over our health that extended into all the individual nations, and therefore whoever controlled the WHO controlled all the nations. Right? So if Xi Jinping has direct control of Tedros, and you know, CCP is controlling the WHO, then in essence, they can control the health decisions and the protocols globally.
Seth Holehouse:But what I'm understanding with this now is it's much bigger than that. And I'll use an analogy, and it may be somewhat poor of analogy, but it kind of paints a picture of the war on terror. You look go back to Bush, and you go back to Cheney and Halliburton, and you just think, was the war on terror really a war on terror, or was it this excuse to build up this massive this massive military industrial complex in The Middle East. Right? So once the war on terror is over, you think, oh, it's over, but you don't realize that there's billions and billions and dollars of Halliburton contracts and and massive infrastructure of military bases and everything that's still over there that doesn't disappear.
Seth Holehouse:Right? And so looking at COVID, there's been a lot of process in trying to understand what was the end goal of COVID? What was the end goal goal of the vaccine rollout? Was it depopulation? Was it, you know, bringing out the digital ID for control?
Seth Holehouse:Like, you know, what was the bigger end goal of it? But what I'm seeing from this, whether or not this is the absolute final end goal or just one of the parts of the process, is that what COVID did, and I think what a lot of people aren't paying attention to, because they're very focused on the depopulation agenda and the turbo cancers, which is really important. I've spent a lot time talking about that. But while we've been focusing on that, what's happened is amidst the COVID pandemic, that big pharma and the corporatocracy, I think in conjunction with a lot of the agencies, and I think it gets very messy and murky once you get to this this giant what we we refer to as the cabal. I think that big pharma is a massive part of it.
Seth Holehouse:You've got the the banking industrial complex. You have this this big criminal cartel that's sitting on top. I think that big pharma represents a large part of that, that what happened during COVID is that that entity laid a global structure. It built this global structure and put it in place. That's a structure that's hard to see if you're looking if if you're looking you can't see the forest through the trees.
Seth Holehouse:Right? If you try to focus on one part of it, but when you take a step back, you realize it, and there's now this massive logistical global medical, pharmaceutical, industrial complex that didn't exist nearly in the ways that it did that it does now, right, post COVID. And so what you're what I'm gathering from what you're saying and what I'm learning through this discussion is that it's almost like focusing on the WHO and some thing that WHO is doing is it's focusing on the tail of the dog instead of focusing on the teeth and the claws and the mouth and and like the machine gun mounted to the the dog's back. Right? It's like so that it's not necessarily it's a distraction because it's important, but that it's that if we focus too much on it, we're missing the bigger picture.
Seth Holehouse:Is that am I am I following you? Is is that making
Speaker 2:Absolutely. The the only thing I would say you you mentioned the war on terror, but actually, you know, with what you were talking about, it actually was a war of terror. Yeah. We were terrorized on an ongoing basis. Be afraid.
Speaker 2:You know, if you remember the yellow, orange, and green terror alert, you know, almost every day on the news, oh, this might happen or that might happen or something else might happen. You know? Disease x or monkeypox or bird flu. You know? Be afraid.
Speaker 2:Be afraid. Be afraid. It all feeds into the mentality that, you know, luckily for me personally, okay, I'm 64 years old. For the last forty five years, I have not set foot in a hospital for myself. I've been there to, you know, advocate for other people, but I haven't been to a medical doctor and you couldn't pay me to go to a medical doctor since I was 19 years old.
Speaker 2:You couldn't pay me to walk into a pharmacy, the pee is silent, and buy one of their products because I don't believe that poison is beneficial for my long term health. It'll change your symptoms. And, you know, if you did that with an auto mechanic and you said, Hey, my car is exhibiting some symptoms and a light is going off on the dashboard. Could you fix the light? Your mechanic could go, oh, well, I'll just take the lamp out or cut the wire or turn off the circuit breaker or the fuse or whatever.
Speaker 2:Fix the light. You know? Took out your gallbladder. Won't won't bother you anymore. Right?
Speaker 2:Fix the problem. No. What people need to do is look at the light and go, you know, I have a cough. I have a, you know, sneeze, teary eyes, aches and pains, you know, vomiting, diarrhea, whatever it might be. What is the cause?
Speaker 2:If you're talking to a practitioner who's trying to identify the cause so that you can make a change and stop causing the problem. Maybe maybe your engine is running ragged because, you know, you haven't changed the oil for quite some time. Maybe it's a simple little fix. But if your mechanic said, ah, don't worry about it. You know, just take this bill, and it'll be fine.
Speaker 2:And, you know, you blow an engine down the road. Well, now he's got a big repair job. And so if you're constantly misinformed and my take on it, and people can disagree, but the testing, the drugs and the jabs that are the primary things that, you know, medicine does, and as well as surgery and chemo and radiation, those are not health enforcing or improving beneficial things. Those are customer acquisition tools. If you can take a healthy person and say, Well, you've got to get tested because you might have an asymptomatic disease.
Speaker 2:Just go, wait a minute. Disease means I have symptoms. How could I have an asymptomatic disease? That's like matter and antimatter. That does not compute.
Speaker 2:But how many billions of people allowed something to be scraped off the top of their nasal pharynx, damaging it, and taking the genetic information to go into some database somewhere, and then believed that the thing that was done to that sample was actually a test as opposed to a laboratory process that even Carrie Mollis, the, creator of the process, said this is not a diagnostic, but yet billions of people were diagnosed, which means two people do not know what's going on. That's the definition of the word. And so people fall for the story, then they fall for the story of, oh, you know, well, you need, to be put on a ventilator and remdesivir. That's the solution. As if, you know, there's nothing else in the world that could ever possibly be done for a respiratory problem.
Speaker 2:Stick a tube down your throat and take drugs that stop your breathing apparatus. That's how you treat a respiratory ailment. Sounds a little strange to me. Put something in that damages your kidneys so that the fluid might back up into your lungs. That sounds a little strange to me.
Speaker 2:Or inject something into your body that causes your immune system to attack you because you're making the most toxic part of the thing that they say is the problem all throughout your body to treat a respiratory ailment when antibodies made in the blood don't cross into the open area of the lung. That sounds a little strange to me. But yet, the people in white coats, you know, stood behind that because that is their business model. They're not really incentivized and rewarded when people are healthy. They earn a living by renaming your problem by some disease name that has an ICD code that they get reimbursed for doing a certain protocol.
Speaker 2:Thinking about how to treat the individual person, you know, with whatever experience and things that address the cause of the problem has been bludgeoned into submission. Any doctor who tried to think for themselves and actually care for the person and didn't follow the protocol was either kicked out or, you know, given great difficulty in in doing their job. And there's a lot of heroes who were helping thousands upon thousands of people. The problem is that only some people have seen the fraud in the system. Unfortunately, in The United States, somewhere between fifteen and twenty percent of the population are employed by that system.
Speaker 2:If I could snap my fingers and make everybody understand how to maintain their own health, fifteen to twenty percent of The United States would be out of work. And so getting honest answers from people who would lose their job if they were honest about what's really going on is the problem. Now other countries, a much smaller percentage of their economy is based on big pharma. And so there's still a growth industry for big pharma all around the world. Look at what we spend in The United States on big pharma.
Speaker 2:You know, I call it the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex, P H E I C, that's the other fake. Okay? But if you go to poor nations, you know, not so much. So, you know, they're looking at a growth opportunity. You know, go invest because pandemic response products are incredibly profitable.
Speaker 2:And, you know, they have a lower standard. They don't really need to work. You know, it's an emergency. That's all we got. So here you go.
Speaker 2:And
Seth Holehouse:I see. So it's almost the sorry to jump in. So these these African countries and say Bangladesh that are putting forth this request, like, that's exactly what big pharma wants. Because what they're saying is, hey, you know, let's just say that you sell a certain product, say, you know, you sell cell phones and and you cover a certain area. It's almost like, you know, that whole other region that you're not even tapping into is coming and saying, hey, we want service too.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Like, you know, come you know, build towers all over our countries and service us. And it's it's this massive new growth opportunity to further extend the footprint of this, you know, medical emergency, you know, industrial complex. And so but looking back at the pandemic treaty and a lot of the concerns that even you and I have talked about on some of our previous shows in terms of the mandatory testing or, you know, some of the things that with an independent treaty that would go directly against our individual rights and the concern that, okay, well, if The United
Speaker 2:States See, that's the that's that's the fake news. Okay? Okay. Many people many people were saying that. If you read article 24 paragraph two in the quote, unquote treaty, it says very clearly, and it has for months, nothing in the treaty will give the director general or the WHO or the secretariat any authority to institute mandates for masks or jabs or lockdowns or travel restrictions.
Speaker 2:That's not what that's all about. That has always been, and if you look back over the last four and a half, five years, your local tyrants who implemented those mandates and requirements and travel restrictions and social distancing, yada yada yada, they didn't need any amendments to the international health regulations or any treaty to do what they did over the last four and a half, five years. Those issues are primarily local. Now in the amendments, there's some very concerning existing articles and some amendments involving international travel. Very problematic from my point of view that nations, assume that they have the, capacity to compel international travelers to undergo medical exams, prophylaxis, vaccine, isolation and quarantine.
Speaker 2:But that's not the WHO mandating that. If you actually read it, the doublespeak in in article 31 of the regulations is mind blowing. But the gist of it is that all of the nations agreed amongst themselves that if a citizen leaves their country, they are at the mercy of the nation to which they are traveling to. And that nation can actually express in a very perverse way its national sovereignty and just destroy the individual rights, freedoms, and bodily autonomy of the man, woman, or child who's traveling. So when people were saying, oh, this is an attack by the WHO on national sovereignty, no.
Speaker 2:It's the WHO facilitating an abuse of national sovereignty against the man, woman, or child who's traveling. So the arguments are going in exactly the wrong direction. In the treaty, the nations who were trying to protect their intellectual property and saying, hey. These are our biological resources. We're not gonna just hand them over and not expect some, you know, a piece of the pie.
Speaker 2:It literally says in article three, section one of the latest version of the treaty that sovereignty includes a nation's biological resources. And and so the the SIOP and the confusion is in many ways self induced because what happens is, and I see this all the time if I read something about any kind of medical study, you know, health related study, a study gets published, somebody reads the abstract, they report on it, and then somebody regurgitates that report and then again and again and again. And and whatever you may see is many, many generations removed from what the heck actually happened in the study. People don't read the methodology or the data. And and so if you just take the headline at face value, oh my god, you're gonna get it wrong.
Speaker 2:If you look at that article and you go, alright, where's the report that this is based on? You know, what got published? What actually happened almost a hundred percent of the time. It's like, how in the world did they get that from that? And so I just encourage people, don't listen to what I just said.
Speaker 2:This is all hearsay. If you're watching this video, you're hearing both of us say something. That's the definition of hearsay. That's not evidence. I try to make all of the documents available so people can go look at it.
Speaker 2:Go make up your own mind. You know? Read what the amendments actually say, not what I or anybody else said about them. And then somebody said something about what they said and on and on and on to the point where when I go on the Internet and I see what, you know, people are saying, I'm like, where did that come from? You
Seth Holehouse:know? So
Speaker 2:it's it's astonishing, but you have to go to the source.
Seth Holehouse:What what is the real threat of the negotiations and of the amendments and of the treaties? I know that even if you're using your your substack, because a lot about a lot of your substack is about, you know, you know, raising you know, pulled up you know, raising awareness. Right? Stop the IHR amendments. And it's, you know, kind of really informing people about the threat of this.
Seth Holehouse:And so if the if so obviously, there's some element which is these negotiations, these amendments are very bad, and they must be stopped. I think the the confusion is that people have believed that these amendments in this treaty basically give away all of our rights, and they make it so that, you know, Tedros is like, okay, mister Seth Holehouse, you need your fourth booster or you're going into a concentration camp. And it's like, okay. Stop that. So if that's not as what what it is, what what is the real threat of these amendments of the treaty?
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Speaker 2:Many of the things that we've been talking about, you know, are are what is in these documents. If if you break it down and realize that at the moment, there's three things that we're dealing with. There was a treaty that was signed by a 38 nations on Friday, May 24. That was at the World Intellectual Property Organization. And they're saying that any genetic sequence that somebody applies for in a patent, they have to name whomever it was that provided that sequence.
Speaker 2:Well, that's not gonna hurt you or me. You have to put that into context. That settled a good chunk of the dispute. They're trying to incentivize the search for pathogens that can be patented and turned into products that I think don't work and cause harm. Well, that's not being questioned here.
Speaker 2:No one in all of these negotiations has stood up and said, excuse me, but the jabs are not working. They're not really vaccines. The CDC had to change the definition, and it's, you know, not the case that the mRNA platform imparts immunity the way people think a vaccine is supposed to function. It just triggers an immune response. Well, it's like Pavlov's dog.
Speaker 2:If you trigger a response and trigger a response and trigger a response, your immune system gets trained to respond to a problem that is made up. The the genetic sequence that's put in those jabs is modified RNA. It's not something found in nature. It's a biological weapon. It's not a natural thing.
Speaker 2:It's designed to train your immune system to respond to the injection. It's got nothing to do with what you might breathe into your lungs. It's insane. But until somebody steps up, you know, like the emperor and the story of the emperor who has no clothes and the little you know, I feel like the little kid, excuse me. Masks and the test and the drugs and the jams, It's all a fraud.
Speaker 2:Why are you putting money into building this out around the world? You know? Pick another, you know, story, you know, movie thing, Back to the Future. Hello, McFly. You know, wake up.
Speaker 2:What are you doing? What are you thinking? Well, either they completely believe the big pharma fraud, which I actually believe is the case. I think there are a lot of people who are hypnotized by people in white coats like Doctor. Fauci who lie blatantly, but yet people you know, the latest one I heard secondhand was that he was asked if he ever thought for about running for president.
Speaker 2:And and you just go, in in what world am I existing that that could even be talked about in a joking way? And and so the point is what we're dealing with is an organization that is trying to set up a financial system, they call it
Speaker 3:a
Speaker 2:mechanism, to throw money at the industry into nations that simply cannot afford the profitable products that big pharma puts out in the market space of pandemic related products. They rightfully have better priorities. They should be dealing with all of the many other ailments, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, you know, tuberculosis, malaria, whatever it might be, Growing billions of dollars looking for pathogens that are not currently causing any kind of an outbreak in order to scare people and and turn it into a profitable venture is simply greed and corruption. It's not what the world should be doing to improve everyone's health. Now some nations took a different approach, and they made little care packages of vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, maybe a handful of other things, some herbal remedies or a homeopathic remedy or, you know, nasal wash or something where when they provided those for people as as needed as a global public good, they wiped out any problems with COVID.
Speaker 2:So if the end result of these negotiations was something like, well, we need to make sure that good clean air and good pure water and fundamental nutrition and, you know, maybe some truly safe, you know, food or herbs that are appropriate for a respiratory ailment or whatever. We make those readily available around the world. Man, I'd be all for it. Okay? That's not what they're doing.
Speaker 2:They're making fake tests, masks, you know, PPE, drugs, and jabs, which are harmful, if not deadly, built out around the world to the tune of billions of dollars.
Seth Holehouse:Well, if you can't
Speaker 2:see the obviousness of that at this point, you can't see it because you have a preconceived notion that the pathway to health is through pharmakia. And pharmakia is trickery to convince people to swallow or inject a poison and not listen to your body, but listen to a practitioner who runs a test and says, oh, be afraid. We've identified that you have an asymptomatic disease. You feel fine, but you're sick, and you're gonna die if you don't do the things we tell you. Well, that's hypnosis.
Speaker 2:That's, you know, psychological manipulation. That's a lie. You either see it or you fall for it. And unfortunately, a lot of people are still falling for it.
Seth Holehouse:And so so okay. This is helpful. And so the threat of the negotiations of the treaty, What's really going on here is that what it does is it helps further along the infrastructure for a global pandemic machine. The infrastructure of finding new potential pandemics, the infrastructure of distributing the new products, the the so called vaccines, the masks, the PPE, whatever it is. The I'm sure that the censorship industrial complex is built into it controlling the narrative of whatever new pandemic threat there is.
Seth Holehouse:So that's what this is is is it's it's in a lot of way crystallizing to the next degree this global system, not to mention the money flow, the flow of billions and billions of dollars through the WHO, through Gavi, through any number of these giant nonprofits or, you know, whatever it is. It's it's it's a massive money laundering campaign. So it's it's basically it's it's kinda building out the death star. Right? If you're looking at what is it that they will use to control the world and bring us into this bring us into some sort of, you know, brave new world or 1984 scenario, it's this giant pandemic medical emergency industrial complex.
Seth Holehouse:And so what the treaty represents is the next massive move of that. Like, it's kinda taking the, you know, the the chessboard or whatever it is and or risk. Right? It's like it's like it's moving everything out all at once. And now you've conquered two thirds of the entire board, whereas before you had, you know, one eighth of it.
Seth Holehouse:So that is the threat. Right? Which to me actually seems much more of a threat than, okay, maybe that, you know, within your own within your own country that they've they've kind of messed with the rules and now they can, you know, over enforce certain pro you know, protocols, which is also a threat. But we also know that, you know, your local, you know, city government can pass an ordinance that says you have to wear masks. Right?
Seth Holehouse:So it doesn't need Tedros's permission, you know, for that or for a business in America to say, you must have a vaccine or they're doing those things anyway. So what this is is almost like this is like the the the this next massive step to almost completing the Death Star. And once the Death Star is complete, they can blow up any plant they want to instantly, or they can create a pandemic that instantly becomes a global pandemic that instantly we see the coordination. Like, if like, if we thought it was bad during COVID, say in 2020, the global coordination, it's like the the framework and the inroads that they're making now will turn that into a a machine that just gets turned on. Is that is that a good conclusion to our conversation thing?
Speaker 2:Very much. I'll I'll add just a little bit, and and then we can wrap it up. You mentioned the Death Star, and I've actually used the analogy of Star Wars. Spoiler alert. You know, if you haven't seen the original Star Wars by now, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna blow it for you. There's a scene where r two d two taps into, the Death Star's, you know, mainframe computer and downloads the blueprints, and that's what leads to the culmination of Luke Skywalker, you know, blowing up the Death Star, cause it wasn't quite finished yet. They're still working on
Seth Holehouse:it. Oh, so you're like r two d two. You're not necessarily Luke Skywalker. You're r two d two. You've found the blueprints and Yeah.
Speaker 2:Exactly. A little bit. I mean, well, they published them. Right? They they I'm just reading the blueprints.
Speaker 2:I used I used to work in construction, so I've read blueprints. Right? You can see what their plan is. They they keep telling us. You can watch any of the videos.
Speaker 2:Equity. We want equity. Equity. Equity. Equity.
Speaker 2:What's equity? Equity is money. If you buy a home and you pay off the mortgage a little bit, you've improved the house and it goes up in value, you say that you have equity in your home. If you buy stocks, you have an equity stake in the corporation. Equity is money.
Speaker 2:Well, they were asking just to get equitable access. What they got was a financing mechanism to give them equitable production. Oh, man, that's worse than what they asked for. That's not a victory. That's a massive victory for pharma, but an enormous defeat for the people who are pushing back on it.
Speaker 2:And so the lessons that I learned, I think you learned, and probably everybody who's watching this learned from the last four and a half, five years, is that local people went crazy and, you know, out of fear and authoritarian control, know, overstepped their authority and put down mandates and rules and regulations that, you know, were slowly learning that if you push back, they did not have authority to do that. They overstepped it. And for people who stood their ground, battles are being won. K? Now what they learned was that it's very hard to force someone to take a jab if you haven't gotten that supply of jabs to that location.
Speaker 2:If you go back and think about it, there were distribution problems. Nation ABCDEFG had to wait because nations like Canada bought 400,000,000 jabs for 40,000,000 people. There was not a universal supply. There was not, you know, like sunshine or water or air, you know, flowing masks and tests and jabs and and drugs, they were not big enough. Big pharma learned that they were not everywhere on planet Earth.
Speaker 2:They could not do things to 8,000,000,000 people, boom, all at once. They still have a growth industry to build out in poor nations. And poor nations don't have money to do that, so they got an agreement for a financing mechanism to build out infrastructure, mRNA manufacturing plants, you know, diagnostic manufacturing plants, all of that. And if you just start looking, you know, in the news feeds, you'll see, you know, France is donating money, and the EU is donating money, and The United States through the World Bank Pandemic Fund set up through the, National Defense Authorization Act in December of twenty twenty two, '5 billion dollars through the defense department, through the World Bank's Pandemic Fund to do exactly what the pandemic treaty seeks to do, but on a bigger scale. They dished out a couple of hundred million dollars to 37 different nations around the world to build out that infrastructure.
Speaker 2:So our tax dollars or our increased, you know, national debt is going right straight into big pharma's pockets under the guise of the global health security strategy. Well, what is that other than glorified research development, and proliferation of biological weapons to terrorize humanity? And if people go for it, damage their health to feed the beast because when people get jabbed and they get harmed, they go right back to big pharma to try to help them from the harm that is iatrogenically doctor induced disease. Until people realize that the enemy is within with all of the people who are earning their income from the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex and blind to the fact that they're not really helping improve the health of people, the more of that we get, the worse our health seems to be. You know, I'm lucky.
Speaker 2:I I awakened to that decades ago. It's very easy to see, but you first have to shed the programming and the assumptions that you think that the answer is to ask your doctor if some drug is right for you. No. You know, that's not what makes you healthy. That's what improves their bottom line.
Speaker 2:And so that's the beast that we have to deal with. The WHO is the tail being wagged by that dog, and all of the people who are still under the hypnotic, you know, pharmakia, witchcraft, spellbinding, you know, word crafting language of, oh, the more drugs and jabs and tests and masks that the world has, the better protected we are from the next pandemic? I don't think so. I think that's a fraudulent idea, but nobody in these negotiations is willing to challenge the beast. Okay.
Seth Holehouse:It makes a lot more sense now. And so as we conclude, I'll pull up your website one more time and encourage folks to check it out. I'll put the link in the description. It's JamesRoguski.substack.com. This seems like a pretty relevant article on the top, w t f u, wake the fighters up.
Speaker 2:Wake the fighters up. Absolutely. And so, on the bottom of every one of my articles is my phone number. It's (310) 619-3055. This was a meeting that they had just the other day.
Speaker 2:The independent panel is the group. If you stop right there if you stop right there with those maps. Okay? That, I think, is really small, but I think that was the vaccine production around the world.
Seth Holehouse:Yes. Says location of COVID nineteen vaccine manufacturing from November 2020 to January 2022.
Speaker 2:You notice that there's not a thing going on in Africa at that point in time.
Seth Holehouse:I'd say number one country is China.
Speaker 2:Number one country is China. If you scroll up a little bit, there's another map, I believe. Okay. And this was the number of people who completed the initial COVID nineteen vaccine protocol. Do you see a logistics problem here?
Speaker 2:There wasn't any manufacturing in Africa, so they didn't take the jab. Really hard to convince people to take the jab if you don't have any on the shelf.
Seth Holehouse:Interesting. Interesting.
Speaker 2:That that right there, those two maps. Okay? That is what big pharma learned from COVID. And this is the independent panel who is supposedly, you know, reviewing what were the mistakes and the problems made during COVID. This is just you know, if you were if this was any other business, if this was automobiles, right, it's harder to sell automobiles if you don't have a factory nearby.
Speaker 2:You know? How do how do you get automobiles? Well, you gotta put them on a boat and put them across the ocean. And if you can put local factories in Africa, then they're gonna be far more likely to get jabs whenever something else, you know, is pushed on them. Those two maps pretty much explain the problem.
Speaker 2:Folks in Africa did far better and are doing far better because they didn't have the influence of big pharma. And that's good, but it's not good from big pharma's perspective. And folks in Africa have different priorities. They really should be spending their money on almost anything other than looking for pathogens with pandemic potential to set up laboratories to do genomic sequencing to make more pharmaceutical drugs and mRNA, injectables, but that's not Big Pharma's plan. Big Pharma wants to profit off of that $1,400,000,000 market.
Speaker 2:That is what these negotiations are about.
Seth Holehouse:Makes sense. Well, James, thank you for your your calm demeanor and your your your wisdom that comes forth. It's almost like you were a high school science teacher before because you can patiently explain really,
Speaker 2:really I've got a good friend who taught me something the other day. It's the gal man amnesia. K? Gell Mann amnesia is when you look at somebody who said something and you know that it's wrong because you're deep down into that topic or you ex you were at the event and it was reported and it's wrong. It's like, well, once you know somebody has said something that's wrong, do you trust the next thing that they say?
Speaker 2:And so when you go looking at information and you've been misdirected, everybody can make a mistake. I've seen some folks on alternative media. They got bad information. They reported it. And then a couple of days later, they're like, oh, you know, our bad.
Speaker 2:We got deceived. You know, that's not what happened. Here's what's really going on. Totally fine. Right?
Speaker 2:We all all all make mistakes. And if somebody retracts a previous story and they go, hey. You know, we're trying to get it right. Here's what we think it is now. You can accept that.
Speaker 2:Oftentimes, the retraction never gets the same play that the original story gets. Okay? But, we all have to learn as new information comes in, adapt to it, discern whether or not the new information is more accurate than the old information. It's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 2:Don't listen to anything I had to say. I this is all a discussion. This is all hearsay. You heard us say these things. Go read the documents.
Speaker 2:Go make up your own mind. Get the source material on this topic or anything else, and you'll probably find in many cases that the way it was presented, doesn't necessarily align with what's really in there. And I invite people to, you know, fact check me, please. My phone number is on my Twitter handle. My phone number's on the bottom of every article.
Speaker 2:Every now and then somebody will come up and go, Hey, Jim, you know, did you know about this? If you correct a mistake that I've made, you're gonna be my best friend. That's what the scientific method is supposed to be. I don't have any, you know, defense mechanism of, oh, I'm right and you're wrong. If you're right and I'm wrong, by all means, tell me.
Speaker 2:That's what science is supposed to do. But, unfortunately, that doesn't happen as much as it should. And I think you know, we had a little conversation before we started recording this. That is the problem. People around the world had a set conclusion out of the gate, you know, safe and effective.
Speaker 2:And when the information came in that, well, maybe it's not safe, maybe it's not effective, and maybe it's not even what you thought it was at all. Do you accept that new information and compare it and make a decision and change your mind, or are you stuck in the religious belief system that will not allow you to challenge the dogma? You know, it's either that, this belief in dogma, or the scientific method where you invite challenge. And if somebody has a better set of data or a better hypothesis or theory, you go, you know, it looks like you're more right than what I thought was going on. You have a question and you have to make a decision.
Speaker 2:I guess, you know, people find that difficult, but to not do that is horrific. So, you know, challenge whatever people say. Try to get as close to the facts as you can, but even when you think you got them, boy, they're slippery.
Seth Holehouse:They are.
Speaker 2:There might be some new information that comes in, and you gotta change it again. And if you've got a lot of money invested in the position that you've been defending only to find out that, oops, you know, you were wrong, it's hard to say, yeah, I learned something new today. I've said many times that a good day is when you learn something new, and a great day is when somebody comes along and shows you that you're actually wrong about something, and then they open your eyes. Becoming disillusioned is actually a good thing. Get rid of those illusions.
Speaker 2:Get closer to the truth and, you know, seek to be shown that you are wrong. And it's not about being right. It's about identifying, you know, what the facts really are and behaving, accordingly based on what you know. And it just seems that everyone involved in these negotiations is just lock, stock, and barrel believing that drugs and jabs and tests and masks are going to be the way to solve health problems. And, you know, I just I don't believe that.
Seth Holehouse:You and I both. James, thank you. It's been great speaking with you. Thanks again for
Speaker 2:Thanks, man.
Seth Holehouse:You're doing.
Speaker 2:Appreciate it. Absolutely. Thanks for having me.
Seth Holehouse:Folks, I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've actually got something really exciting for you. So I'm a big fan of art, and I'm a big fan of people that stand up against the man, against the deep state, the cabal, whatever you wanna call them. And as you probably know, the entire movie and entertainment industry has been completely hijacked by a communist, you could even say satanic agenda. And so it's been very difficult to get non communist and satanic, information, especially movies and music, etcetera, that are actually promoting good traditional values into the mainstream.
Seth Holehouse:You remember seeing, Sound of Freedom. It was such a big deal that was playing in theaters across the nation. So there's actually a really, really exciting film called the Relentless Patriot that is now literally, right now in movie theaters today. You can go see it tonight if you wanted to. So this is the here's the Fandango listing, literally.
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Speaker 3:He's got a hook for another arm, and he's drinking a fucking beer, having a laugh with me. And he's not bitching about nothing.
Speaker 4:I present to you the recipient of this year's VFW Americanism Award, missus Scott Lovato.
Speaker 3:That's it. I'm gonna paint a flag on a rooftop in every state near a military base. As a veteran, we all fought for the flag in World War two. And today, we wanna see it flying. They will never as long as I am alive, they will never take the American flag down.
Speaker 3:You wanna burn one? Then I will find out where you work, and I will find a building across the street and paint a flag 50 by a hundred so you have to see it every fucking day.
Mel K:The pro Trump sign on the front wall of the Staten Island home was burned to the ground.
Speaker 3:The hate I get is astronomical. If everybody liked me, I'd be doing something wrong. My mother's advice, whatever you do with your life, as long as you believe it in your heart and always take care of those less fortunate. My father's advice was, son, take shit. This
Speaker 4:is about control. Are terrorists. Must fight. We must take a stand. Are you ready?
Speaker 3:God didn't give me a gun and a bayonet. He gave me paint and brush, and I will fight to the fucking death for this country. Country.
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