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Bare It All with Linnsey is where nothing is off limits. From thriving in recovery to building businesses, raising kids while chasing dreams, diving deep into mental health, and making a real difference in the world — we talk about it all. This podcast is raw, real, and completely unfiltered. Whether you’re healing, hustling, or just trying to make it through the day, you’re in the right place. We’re here to inspire, empower, and remind you that you can rise from anything.
I was emaciated and absolutely dying and there hit a point where it was this light ease that said, I'm gonna die now. I'm Katy Rose. I am a functional medicine diagnostic nutritionist. I was just absolutely consuming massive amounts all the time and then I would binge and purge. I was on a long list of psych meds.
Katy Rose:I was in liver failure and on my deathbed and they were patting me on the head going, well it looks like you've lost some weight, good job, Keep up doing what you're doing. I'd be dead. Nutrition, gut microbiome, all of these things feed into the mental health. The mental health leads into your choices. So how do we repair that at the root of what's been damaged by antibiotics and poor nutrition and environmental toxins that derail us as humans?
Linnsey Dolson:Even like with my autoimmune, going to different doctors, they've like tried to give me so much medicine. I don't want medicine. Like just help me figure out the root of it so I can fix it.
Katy Rose:I was like why does this keep happening? I've been to one doctor after another. Trauma can become wisdom and wisdom
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, 100.
Katy Rose:Can become your greatest joy.
Linnsey Dolson:Welcome to Bare It All with Linnsey, you guys. I'm so excited for my guest. Okay. So I love Lacey is one of my dear friends, and she called me, and she was like, I have somebody you gotta have on.
Linnsey Dolson:And I trust Lacey because Lacey's like me. We love to have kick ass bad ass women in our circle. Right? No negative vibes allowed.
Katy Rose:No negative vibes.
Linnsey Dolson:You gotta be just going after life and positive and everything else to be in our circle. So I'm like, you're in our circle, you need to be in my circle. So I'm so excited Lucky me. And even more exciting, you guys have a new book out.
Katy Rose:We totally do.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh my goodness. So introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about your new book.
Katy Rose:Okay. Well, I'm I'm Katy Rose. I am a functional medicine diagnostic nutritionist. Short, a functional medicine practitioner in that greater sense of the word. And my whole journey has been so in alignment with your journey, which is we can come back from anything.
Linnsey Dolson:Yes.
Katy Rose:Anything mofo, like, yeah. Morbid obesity, sex addiction, food addiction that was so severe I was getting fired from jobs left and right, upside down mental health, morbid obesity, just on and on and on. So my twenties and thirties were a hot mess. I was in crisis and didn't even know how to fix it.
Katy Rose:All, you know, trauma from childhood, trauma from the journey, things that took place that you don't quite know how to fix in yourself yet. Diving into the mental health side of things, diving into my gut microbiome and understanding mental health through nutrition was a huge part of my journey. And then, you know, now I have this beautiful practice where I help people understand that the thing that's in their way is not themselves. You know, willpower is not a myth. It what willpower is a myth is what I say because nutrition, gut microbiome, all of these things feed into the mental health.
Katy Rose:The mental health feeds into your choices. So how do we repair that at the root of what's been damaged by antibiotics and poor nutrition and environmental toxins that derail us as humans? And how to get back into this space where we're celebratory and on fire.
Linnsey Dolson:Right.
Katy Rose:Oh my god. On fire for life. Right?
Linnsey Dolson:100%. I can't wait to, like, dig in that more. Backing up real quick. So you talked about in your twenties the struggle and about trauma. And that was such a a great point I wanna touch on real quick.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:So a lot of us have trauma, whether it's self induced, whether it's from our childhood, anything, and it affects us so much.
Katy Rose:So much.
Linnsey Dolson:People don't realize that. And there's trauma where some of the traumas from like a relationship, you got cheated on, you got used, you got dumped, you you know, your parents were addicts or alcoholics, like all these traumatic events. If you don't get in there and clean the house, it will follow you.
Katy Rose:Yes, ma'am.
Linnsey Dolson:Can you talk a little bit about that? About how that trauma followed you and affected you?
Katy Rose:Well, I think it's important for people to understand there's the big t and the little t. Right? There's the little traumas that may be these little ways that we process things. There may be things that are you know, they call it a big t where it's like a real egregious happenings.
Linnsey Dolson:Like a death of your parent or something.
Katy Rose:Or massive abuses or neglect or, you know, sexual abuse or there's there's all but what's really important is trauma is not what happened to you. Trauma is how you've processed it and perceived it.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh my gosh. That's so good.
Katy Rose:So so somebody could be sitting so deeply. You look at them and you go, girl, you've you've had a pretty good life. I don't really know what your problem is. Right. But the truth is is their mechanism, how they were, their sensitivities maybe set them up so that they receive that in a way that rocks their world.
Katy Rose:Right? And so if we really have grace for understanding that it doesn't matter what happened to you, it matters how you receive it and perceive it. And that's where the work has to come in. Now I need to go back. I need to look at how I received that.
Katy Rose:I need to process what did I need at that time and find out how to be my own parent now. Right? And how to give myself that that was was failed upon me or that somebody did to me and loved my a lot of times, we betray ourselves for others, whether it's a boyfriend,
Linnsey Dolson:100%.
Katy Rose:a parent. We give and give and give, and that is a message we're constantly sending to ourselves. So the first neglector is us to us. Right? But we're trying to fit in society. We're trying to learn. And all these wounded individuals that are raising us and teaching us, they're just wounds walking around. Right?
Linnsey Dolson:100%. Oh my god. I love this that you're talking about this because people don't talk about this enough even in like AA or like NA or other recovering things or even I teach in like my coaching and mindset coaching is overcoming trauma. Part of it is getting it out on paper and looking at your role in it.
Katy Rose:Yes, ma'am.
Linnsey Dolson:And there is so many times people are stuck on the victim mentality. Like, but they did me wrong. They did this. He cheated on me. She did this. She did that. Well, you-
Katy Rose:Life happens.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah. You kept going back to that person.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:You didn't have proper boundaries. Or you, you know, sometimes people something happened when they're under the influence. But what was your part in that? Well, you got wasted drunk and passed out somewhere. So not that it's your fault, but finding your role in it.
Katy Rose:Your contribution.
Linnsey Dolson:Yes. Yeah. Really helps people be able to, like, take accountability for it and overcome it and release it. Yeah. Because when they're so stuck on like the victim, poor me, poor me, poor me, they can't get over that.
Katy Rose:Yeah. There's, it's a Positive Intelligence is the name of a book, and I never say the author's name right, so I won't say it. It's like something like Shazad Hamin, something like that.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah. I would have chopped that one too. I would not have been able to say that.
Katy Rose:So it's Positive Intelligence just like you have so it's PQ, like your IQ, your EQ, your emotional intelligence. Okay. Positive intelligence, what I like about this is it and this wraps into a lot of other types of therapies. But understanding that we have saboteurs in us that do little things, and the victim is one of those. The pleaser is one of those.
Katy Rose:The hyper vigilant, the control freak, they're all part of that. And so our sage is our deepest knowing, our best self. What we know when everything just is settled in us, what we would tell a friend if we saw they were in crisis, how we would advise. But then the flip side, we have this inner critic, and we maybe picked up that inner critic from parents, teachers, relationships. And we and so those two are kind of duking it out unnecessarily the way we cope, the way we showed up.
Katy Rose:So maybe we had a parent that was hypercritical, and we jumped into, if I control everything and I manage all the parts and I'm a Type a personality, then I can put a little container on this. Or, oh, I'm a victim and they did this to me. That's it's a coping mechanism. It's a coping conversation.
Linnsey Dolson:Right. Right.
Katy Rose:And so so if we can go in and kinda look at these parts, what is our contribution? So if somebody wants to be the victim to what happened to themselves, they're not stepping into their sage knowing that says, you know, that person, they were abused as a child and now they're carrying on that abuse. And I was continually going back to them to let them abuse me because, you know, I was in a state of feeling codependent need.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, codependent's a huge one.
Katy Rose:Yeah. All of these parts. Right? So I love what you say about checking in with yourself on this. And so a huge part of my work it's really funny that we're talking about the mental emotional side because these are the things that keep people from doing what they desire and want to do with their health.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh my gosh. 100%.
Katy Rose:I know what to do.
Linnsey Dolson:Every aspect of life. And so let's talk a little bit about how that rolls into your health because I feel like it all plays roles. Right?
Katy Rose:Yeah. And the nervous system. Right? This dysregulated nervous system, we're all walking around because we're stimulated by cars and you can't get out of the gas station without having a TV come in.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh my gosh. I can't wait to hear more about this.
Katy Rose:Right? All these little pieces when our DNA on a DNA level, we are villagers. We were supposed to know a 150 people and not know the the crisis of the world. We weren't supposed to you know, like our DNA for eons was built with that container, and now we've exploded with the information age. We've exploded with population and with large cities.
Linnsey Dolson:Technology. All of it.
Katy Rose:And it was like the lion is coming after us, and we're constantly in a fight or flight or freeze. Right? Or fawn. Fawn is I'm just gonna kiss everybody's butt because that's gonna make everything okay.
Linnsey Dolson:And I feel like that is a lot of codependency behaviors as well. Yeah.
Katy Rose:Yeah. So the nervous system being dysregulated, you know, and this is where we get into the neurotransmitters and what's actually happening in the brain. So we look at, you know, for instance, the hypothalamus, that's that root space where we jump into these reactive spaces. What can we do to bring that down to tell ourselves we're safe? Well, most people are are like this in their system.
Katy Rose:I mean, even being here today, I'm a little like that. Right? Because I'm in a a foreign environment. So we're a little tight. Well, if you think about like a gazelle on the on the Sahara, they're relaxed, they're chill, they're eating them grass, you know, eating a little grass. The lion comes. What happens to the hindquarters? Hunched up.
Linnsey Dolson:Right. Right.
Katy Rose:Right. I might have to flee. Right? So they hunch up. We're kinda walking around like that all the time. So biophysically, we're sending a message to our hypothalamus, our brain center, that we're we're in crisis. So the chemistry for that, the cortisol pattern starts. Right? So one of the things that I teach people is the deep belly breaths that go expansively into the pelvic floor. So you actually feel what I call your undercarriage.
Linnsey Dolson:Right. Right.
Katy Rose:Expand and relax and release. And that when we do that, we tell our body you're well, you're safe. Right. Filling that belly with air. You know, walking around, like, on this podcast today, like, holding in a little a little extra tummy.
Katy Rose:I always have the tummy. I've always had the tummy. Holding that in, but, like, the release of that and dropping into my seat tells my whole body and my brain, you're okay. You're okay. There's no lion chasing you. Chill the f down.
Linnsey Dolson:That's so wild. How much do you think that people's trauma plays into, like, their health? So for instance, I you know, my story, I was a drug addict for twelve years. And not just like a little on the weekend. I'm talking about daily, like homeless.
Katy Rose:Yeah. Your story is amazing.
Linnsey Dolson:Like as low as they get. Like, right there with the next step would have been dying from my addiction.
Katy Rose:Yes, ma'am.
Linnsey Dolson:And when I got sober, I started noticing, like, I have an autoimmune. And my body if I went to every single doctor. I've had every MRI, everything, and they're like, we don't know what's wrong. We don't know what's wrong. And it's like, I know it's autoimmune because if, like, my immune system is, you know, affected in any way, I can feel all these symptoms.
Linnsey Dolson:And I've really had to, like, learn to I've hired, like, outside doctors, specialists, all this, and I found that like gluten, dairy, processed food, sugars, caffeine, like all of these things affect it. But I truly believe that all the drama and like trauma and just all that I did to my body Yeah. In my addiction caused what I have going on now.
Katy Rose:Well, first of all, everybody, you're the expert of you.
Linnsey Dolson:Right.
Katy Rose:Your intuition is telling you that. Your you there's a knowing. I talk all the time about stories where somebody will go to the doctors, go to the doctors, go to the doctors and they're like, we're not finding anything.
Katy Rose:Your labs are clean and we- the part of the problem with that system is they're they don't diagnose properly. They don't die do enough diagnostic testing. So for me, I was in liver failure and on my deathbed, and they were patting me on the head going, well, looks like you've lost some weight. Good job. Keep up doing what you're doing. I'd be dead. Right? I had to go find out more information on the lab level what was happening in my body. So I say to people, follow your intuition. Don't stop turning over those stones.
Katy Rose:As far as the nervous system goes, absolutely. So one, you're feeling this intuition, so follow that. Two, one of the things I two two categories on this that I like to share Examples. One is women who have not felt like they've had the ability to express themselves safely are the highest rate of thyroid cancer and throat cancer.
Linnsey Dolson:Really?
Katy Rose:The Body Keeps the Score is an amazing book, and it talks about literally the somatic response where we hold injury, emotional injury in our body. So one, that's a a beautiful example of right on the money with that. The other thing too that I like to remind people is well, people just don't know this. I like to tell them and then help them understand it. Is if I I use the example of a concussion, I'll have a client who comes to me and they can't figure out what's going on with their extreme gut issues. Maybe twenty minutes of food and they're running to the bathroom. And it's just they can't keep anything in. They're malnourished, extreme diarrhea, extreme issues in the body. And so we start dissecting it, doing the intake interview of their health story.
Katy Rose:And all of sudden, it'll come to me. I'll be like, so this came on suddenly out of nowhere. You've always had good stomach health before then. When did you have a concussion? Did you have a concussion six months before that?
Katy Rose:And they're like, what? What? How does this how are you getting to this? So a concussion is the head will hit and it sends a shock wave through the through the brain stem. The vagus nerve runs through the brain stem and runs to the stomach.
Katy Rose:And it's the biggest nerve in the body and it connects it's the connection between the brain and the stomach. This is why your stomach is the second brain. When that shock wave happens, it's like a sonic boom in that gut that goes off and it annihilates and kills gut microbiome. As it's killing those gut microbiome within a slow process of them dissipating and disappearing, all of a sudden, gut can't do what it's supposed to and no longer can process your food. So if that shock through a physical shock can do that to our gut, think about all the emotional traumas.
Katy Rose:They're like little sonic booms.
Linnsey Dolson:So wild.
Katy Rose:Little sonic booms that are traveling. So I've had in my life, and many people have, an upsetting moment that rocked you.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, yeah. We all have.
Katy Rose:Yeah. You've seen something. You were told something, and it rocked you. It changed you forever. That traveled. So and autoimmune is in large part a response to the gut.
Linnsey Dolson:It is. My gut like, it definitely is always surrounded by my gut. So like, when I'm in a flare up or not feeling well, I always have gut issues. So it's like indigestion, my stomach hurting.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:Like, I can always tell that it is connected to my gut.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:No. 100%
Katy Rose:I love for people to get a full panel of their gut microbiome. I love for people to get that full panel.
Linnsey Dolson:No. It's wild how your gut just has so much like, it just controls so much in your body. So you had talked about being on your deathbed, liver failure, all that. I wanna back up a little bit and tell us about this because when I talked to you on the phone, you had an incredible story of overcoming and just building this life from, I mean, your deathbed. So I wanna talk about that because I love I love hearing stories where women just or men, anybody comes back from the depths of hell.
Katy Rose:Yes.
Linnsey Dolson:They come back and I have found
Katy Rose:People talk about the dark night of your soul. I'm like, which one?
Linnsey Dolson:Girl. Girl, twelve years. Twelve years of that shit.
Katy Rose:Your journey is beautiful.
Linnsey Dolson:But that's what makes us who we are today. That is true. I swear, the people I've met that have been through the most trauma, first off, they're the funniest people I ever met. Yeah. Because if anything we're funnier than shit.
Katy Rose:Yeah. What can you do but laugh about it?
Linnsey Dolson:Yes. Yes. I know. I swear that I've never been around funnier people than in rehab. I literally laughed for, like, ninety days straight in rehab because everybody's been through just trauma after trauma so they're funny or this shit.
Katy Rose:Little things that go wrong that'll throw somebody off. It's like, meh, you know, it's like, we keep that off. Like, laugh it off. Like, life is funny. Life will life will show you. You better laugh.
Linnsey Dolson:You're so cute. No. I just love that. So tell us a little bit about your journey and about those moments, like, on your death bed and where, you know, you didn't know if you were gonna have another day on this earth and and look at you today.
Katy Rose:Thank you. I you know okay. So trauma can become wisdom. And wisdom
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, 100%.
Katy Rose:Can become your greatest joy. I I I love where I've been. So I love that. Just massive amounts of childhood trauma that I don't usually get into in a public space because those people still exist in the world.
Linnsey Dolson:Okay.
Katy Rose:Fair enough.
Katy Rose:I'm a I'm a very much a grace filled person. People are wounded people wound. Right? Hurt people hurt people.
Linnsey Dolson:That is, that's so true 100%.
Katy Rose:And so I have a lot of love and forgiveness, and that's the work that I've I've done. Right? That and so I really encourage everybody for your best life, go go do that really tough work to figure out how to love the person that hurt you. And that's horrendous, and I'm sorry to say like, it's like so much. It's it's so weighted.
Katy Rose:Right?
Linnsey Dolson:Resentment hurts you.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:It doesn't hurt the other person. They give a shit less that you hate them. It is not affecting them. That is weighing on your soul.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:That is no. That is so true.
Katy Rose:One of my favorite quotes is by Mark Twain. And it's kind of a complicated one, but I I think it's really beautiful in its complexity. It says, the that forgiveness is the scent left that the vile I'm sorry. Forgiveness is the scent that the violet leaves on the heel that crushed it.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, wow.
Katy Rose:Okay. So it's kind of profound, but very profound.
Linnsey Dolson:I like it.
Katy Rose:But so tons of tons of trauma, massive eating disorder. By the time I was 12 years old, I was severely bulimic. There was a a lot of, just issue in the household with body, and a lot of things were put on me to have a continuum of severe body issues. And there were other physical abuses and other traumas that were in the house. But but the one that stayed with me was this this I'm in service to everybody else.
Katy Rose:Like, had a Cinderella complex.
Linnsey Dolson:Okay.
Katy Rose:So the Cinderella complex, the, eating disorder disorders, the body dysmorphia. And because of, a denial of food, I had this perception that I I became addicted to food, severely addicted. So I
Linnsey Dolson:So it went the complete opposite.
Katy Rose:Yeah. So the very thing that was trying supposedly being prevented
Linnsey Dolson:Right.
Katy Rose:Was what was induced. And so, I was just absolutely consuming massive amounts all the time. And then I would binge and purge, and that went on into my early twenties. And then at a certain point, I started working on stopping that, but I couldn't stop the binging. And my life, in my twenties and thirties, consisted of thirty minute rotations literally of chasing food, eating food, feeling guilty for food, chasing food, eating food, feeling guilty for food. And that would go on all hours of the night and day.
Linnsey Dolson:What a horrible feeling to be.
Katy Rose:Yeah. Just never could get enough. Sitting in the car with bags and bags of candy corn was my drug of choice. If I could have, like, melted it down and put it in my vein, I would have.
Katy Rose:Like, was ridiculous, so Halloween's really hard on me still. And so just this massive massive consuming, couldn't fit in airplane seats at a certain point, stopped buying clothing at size twenty, was then wearing like large men's hand me downs, like obese men's hand me downs. Just totally upside down. My mental health, I was on a long list of psych meds. And I was constantly in a rotation of, you know, three weeks of missing out from work, getting fired from a job, putting myself out there.
Katy Rose:I've always had a little bit of sparkle in me, so I was able to, like, get a new job and win people over. And I really wanted it, and I really wanted to be that person who was showing up that day, but consistently fired from jobs, fired from jobs, car wrecks. My mental health was so upside down. I was just laughing with Lacey about this about how many car wrecks I had.
Linnsey Dolson:Really?
Katy Rose:But I was like I was like, if I have a car it will wreck.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, shit.
Katy Rose:It's just constant. And then in my thirties, the sexual addiction. Absolutely. Just this dopamine chase constantly. And then that even interfered with work and life and relationships.
Katy Rose:And it was just, you know, a huge huge aspect of always not living, living so much in that moment that I wasn't living a life or commanding a life. And when I was at a my my system was my nervous system was so dysregulated that if I was at a party, I used to say I was like Robin Williams on cocaine all over the place. Right? Do you remember the old nineteen eighties Robin Williams? I was like that. And people were like I would see people side eye me. Right? You know the side eye. So much judgment.
Linnsey Dolson:Yes.
Katy Rose:But I was so I dysregulated their nervous system by just being in the room with them. Right? And they didn't like it. And so my continuum was eventually, I discovered, I couldn't stop any of these habits. I couldn't change anything.
Katy Rose:What I now understand is my gut microbiome was severely jacked. This jacked my mental health. That was the will willpower is a myth kind of thing where I was not able to attend to what I needed. I couldn't make a decision, have executive function, and stick to it because I was so messed up. And so I started working with, the work of Doctor Daniel Amen, who is the foremost leader in brain scan technology. This was all me just reading. Like, I was poor.
Linnsey Dolson:I love this.
Katy Rose:I was broke. Right? And I needed to know I was like, I know who I am on the inside. I know I'm alive. I know I'm a live wire. I know I'm witty. I know I'm smart. And none of this is coming out to anybody including me in the mirror. And this is not who I am. And that that gut knowing, right, that I tell everybody, I'm like, you you know you know in there how freaking fabulous you are.
Katy Rose:We all do. We all have that glimmer in the mirror where we're like, but then we shoot it down. The first thought was the thought that was the truth.
Linnsey Dolson:It was the spark within, but it's gotta find its way.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah.
Katy Rose:Don't shoot it down in the mirror. The truth was the first one. The first part that was like, hey, I'm a little fly today. Right?
Linnsey Dolson:I see you. I'm here. I'm here.
Katy Rose:Yeah. Exactly.
Katy Rose:And it's such a beautiful piece of every one of us. And the broken people will crush it out of you. You will crush it out of yourself when you're broken.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah.
Katy Rose:Yeah. So don't believe any of that. So, I'm sitting there in this deep knowing, and I just start chasing everything I can find out because he had the understanding of Change Your Brain, Change Your Life was the first book I read of his.
Linnsey Dolson:Okay.
Katy Rose:And it was it had everything to do with, oh, if I change my midnight snack from a carbohydrate to a protein, then I'm going to have more faculty tomorrow.
Katy Rose:I'm gonna have more function of my brain. And I started tweaking these little things. I couldn't give up food at bedtime. Right? I had this scarcity in me, this nervous system reaction of scarcity. So but I could switch it out. And I did. And immediately, I saw more cognition the next day.
Linnsey Dolson:That's so wild how it something like that connects to your brain, but it makes perfect sense.
Katy Rose:Yeah. And so I did that.
Linnsey Dolson:So intriguing.
Katy Rose:Got a little better at that. Pick the next thing he said. Got a little better at that. So I my one of my philosophies is a smidge a day. Just a little every day. And so just get good at something. And when you feel confident, do a little bit more of something else and build on that. And so over the course of a year, I got off of all psych meds and accidentally lost 90 pounds.
Linnsey Dolson:Good. Yeah. Good for you. Yeah.
Katy Rose:And it was accidentally because I was leaning into the mental health. That was the driver. I had succumbed to, I'm a fat girl. This is who I am. I don't know why I'm like this, but this is how it's always gonna be. But I need to function in this world. I need to be inspirational.
Linnsey Dolson:I love that. And isn't it wild how like, if something's not wrong or something's not right in your mental health, you will go for anything to fill that emptiness.
Katy Rose:Yes, ma'am.
Linnsey Dolson:So whether it's drugs it's like people think drugs and alcohol is the actual problem. No. This is the problem.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:That's your solution for the problem.
Linnsey Dolson:That is your solution. And so and it can go so many different ways. Like, even in my recovery, I found myself like there's times where I'm like on it and my mental health is super great. And there's times where I found myself like how you said a sex addiction. I went through a stage where I had like five boyfriends. And I'm like calm down.
Katy Rose:It wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. That one just hung up with me.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah. Super bored and then you're like, fuck. So and so found out about so and so and then damn it. It was like so much work and I'm like I don't even like them that much.
Linnsey Dolson:It's so much work. And just- But it was like filling the void and constantly like having the text as, hey beautiful, hey gorgeous, what are you doing? Da da da da da, roses.
Katy Rose:Why? Because you didn't have it on the inside. You were having to get it from the outside.
Linnsey Dolson:Yes. It was filling a void. And then after I thought about it, I'm like, that's like such a temporary void. And then when I noticed that, I'm like, okay. So I have some work to do.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:There's something missing.
Katy Rose:I love you so much right now.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, I love you.
Katy Rose:I'm like, that feels so good and right.
Linnsey Dolson:It's so true. I have so many friends that that's like their thing. They have like three or four guys and they want like the good morning text. And I started thinking about that and I'm like, man, fuck you. I'm trying to do my hair and makeup. I don't have time to say good morning to all you guys.
Katy Rose:I know.
Linnsey Dolson:And then later I've learned like right now
Katy Rose:Everybody's chasing the dopamine hit from one another.
Linnsey Dolson:It is and it's so much work. And honestly, having like one solid relationship when you're when you're whole inside is way better than like all of these guys. But it's a dopamine hit.
Katy Rose:That one solid relationship starts here. Like, if I
Linnsey Dolson:Oh my god.
Katy Rose:I can get all of that dopamine hit from everybody and it not be enough because I haven't aligned with it in here. Right? And I tell people I I tell them, think about think about a a lover's relationship. And, you know, in the beginning, somebody starts, you know, making a lot of time for you and giving you attention. You you trust them because they're showing you that you're a priority.
Linnsey Dolson:Sure.
Katy Rose:But as time goes on, they do less of that. They dismiss you. Whatever you're thinking is like, oh, that's baloney or whatever. That that's literally what we're doing on the inside to us. Think of yourself as two lovers on the inside because whenever we're constantly dismissing ourselves, we are teaching ourselves that we can no longer be loved or trusted by ourselves. It's only when we're accepting, loving, saying, you know what? You're the priority over x, y, and z.
Linnsey Dolson:Right.
Katy Rose:You're the priority. I'm here for you first. Right?
Linnsey Dolson:It's building those proper boundaries and standards. When I first got sober, I didn't date for actually years. I just focused on building my life and, like, my kids and all of that. And I actually didn't date for, like, the first, I wanna say, like, three or four years.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:And that was a game changer because I really found myself. And I wasn't in a place to date because you find somebody that matches your energy. So I was super broken and I had nothing. So if I dated somebody, was gonna find some other jackass that's in the same position as me.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:And then it just leads to the loss, you know, the loss leading the loss.
Katy Rose:And it would have kept you there longer. You wouldn't have been able to rise up.
Linnsey Dolson:It did and until I was a person that I would date myself
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:I didn't wanna start dating again.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:You know, because I wasn't I wasn't gonna find what I needed and I just wanted to, like, love myself.
Katy Rose:Yeah. Yeah. Well, I feel like I, got us a little sidetracked to kinda get to the part where I'm eventuating onto a deathbed. I mean, to this I'm gonna give an
Linnsey Dolson:You're good. I'm I'm so ADD. We'll be seven conversations, and we can go back. We're good. I love it.
Katy Rose:I'm like, I'll take you off.
Linnsey Dolson:That is allowed on this podcast. This is an ADD accepted accepted podcast. We're good. We could be on seven different subjects, but let's go back to the death bed.
Katy Rose:Well, it's just kinda funny because, you know, like, all of these parts just have so much meat to them. Right? Every journey, every person's going through is like when you've had multiple opportunities to bust through. Right?
Katy Rose:And it's a it's
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, it's wild.
Katy Rose:That onion, that crust coming off more and more. And, so at that point, I'm feeling pretty good in my jeans. I'm I'm down. I'm like, my mental health is much more stabilized. I'm holding down a steady job for years.
Katy Rose:Like, things are going well. I end up with but I always had massive stomach issues nonetheless. Was just a constant. Always felt like I was the first one to get sick. I always felt like, I'm working out and I'm eating cleaner than anybody I know now because I had progressed.
Katy Rose:Right? I just kept getting better and better. And I was really dedicated and really clean. But I I couldn't get muscle on my body. I was I was just feeling like I wasn't getting gains in the gym.
Katy Rose:At one point, I get a really bad sinus infection, and this is when I still would go for antibiotics sometimes. And I went to, the the urgent care, and they gave me a very high dose of Cipro, which is a very high aggressive antibiotic. Six months later, I couldn't walk across the room without collapsing. I had four major bowel blockages that year. Oh, I couldn't eat more than a morsel at a time without throwing it up.
Katy Rose:I would literally I was on medical leave from that great job that I was holding down. I would have, I'd sleep. I'd get up and I had to have an enema, and I'd have bone broth, and I'd crawl my way back to bed. And nobody no doctor could figure it out. We were doing the colonic or a colonoscopies.
Katy Rose:We were doing all of the lab work. And they were petting me on the head and saying, looks like you've lost a lot of weight. Keep up the good work. And we just couldn't figure it out. And I actually, literally I know this point in my journey where I was so tired. I couldn't lift blankets off my body. They were too heavy. A simple blanket. I was emaciated and absolutely dying. And there hit a point where I succumbed to that.
Katy Rose:It was this light ease that said, I'm gonna die now. And I dropped into that space.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, you just gave me goosebumps.
Katy Rose:Ugh. And I had a beautiful angel friend from my past that had died a number of years before. And she showed up and she pulled me away from that door, away from that entry point. And it was this really weird moment. And I talk about it actually in The Power of Inner Sparkle. That's what my chapter is about. I'm that's I've been so blessed to be in this book. And and while I mention the book, within twelve days, we were number one in four countries in our category.
Linnsey Dolson:Show us the book as you're talking about it. So they can see and go get it.
Katy Rose:There you go.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah. Just straightforward.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:The Power of Inner Sparkle
Katy Rose:It's 12 women's stories of resilience and overcoming. And, it's, you know, everything from a Christian point of view to a more agnostic point of view. It's a real mix.
Linnsey Dolson:I love that.
Katy Rose:I I I just yeah. I think that we are eclectic. We are diverse. We are complex. I love that it puts that in there. And so we were really excited because we got the number one sticker in the first twelve days. And yeah. So four freaking countries.
Linnsey Dolson:Oh, yeah.
Katy Rose:Yeah. That's crazy.
Linnsey Dolson:You guys are freaking amazing.
Katy Rose:Amazing. And so that's how I met Lacey, and I adore her.
Linnsey Dolson:No. She's so Lacey's gonna be on here next month. But I got into so your friend moves you.
Linnsey Dolson:You're feeling like you're gonna pass. Tell me from there. Okay. How are you here now?
Katy Rose:So at that point, there was a really weird moment. So she always made bracelets for me, like she was a crafter. She always had to keep her hands
Linnsey Dolson:Friendship bracelets.
Katy Rose:Okay. Yeah. It was a massive part of, like, my world with her. And all of a sudden, there was just this this moment where, like, I turn and, you know, I'm I'm weak, I'm hardly with it. I turn and I see my wrist.
Katy Rose:And all of a sudden, it just looked beautiful to me. And I, like, had to have those bracelets. And so I and this this whole part of the story was, you know, hours, hours and hours. But I was able to get the muster the strength, which I had I couldn't lift blankets off my body. So the fact that I was able to kinda claw myself to my jewelry box and get them on my arm and then claw myself back to bed.
Katy Rose:And then that was this is there was a switch in me that went from I'm going to release everything now. I'm stepping through. Like, everything started to go dark. Right? And then I started to have that transition, and then she appeared before me.
Katy Rose:And then all of a sudden when I came back, it's like I was obsessed with I had to have beauty. I like, I needed to celebrate beauty. And from that point on, that was that turning point that kept me from there. But what unfolded after that in the real world was a series of events that I still don't understand and I ended up in a functional medicine practitioner's office. It was an old friend who had been a chiropractor that I didn't even know he had gone to the Institute of Functional Medicine.
Katy Rose:And I'm, you know, clumped in the chair, can't hold myself up, emaciated, gray. And he's like, we're gonna get you well. And he was passionate about it. And he ran more lab tests than I ever could understand. And he said, girlfriend, you have nine bacterial overgrowths in your digestive tract. I'm used to seeing three or four.
Linnsey Dolson:Wow.
Katy Rose:Four of them have gone pathogenic, and they're attacking your blood, your liver, and your thyroid. You're in hyperthyroidism and full blown liver failure. You're if you thought you were dying, it's because you have been. And I collapsed and cried and they held me up and we all cried together. And he started writing me a protocol to heal that gut microbiome.
Katy Rose:That's the root of the work that I do now is that passionate moment. And I get choked up thinking about it. That passionate moment where somebody held me, and I thought that there was I was like, why does this keep happening? I've been to one doctor after another.
Linnsey Dolson:It's so frustrating. So frustrating.
Katy Rose:It's very frustrating. And so when people come to me, I hold that knowing. I know that they've that I've been like one of many. And what's gonna make this one work? Right?
Linnsey Dolson:Right.
Katy Rose:What's gonna make this one work? And so that's just part of what makes it work is the love. Also, the humility that like, okay, I'm gonna give you information, and this is a collaborative approach. But I wanna bring in your doctors.
Katy Rose:I wanna bring in your specialists. And if it's beyond my care, sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Fortunately, a lot of times it isn't. And I love that for the people who don't have to do more. But I build their file in a way that's never been built.
Katy Rose:And now they have data. And so worked with the functional medicine practitioner, did everything he said to religiously. Couldn't couldn't drive, couldn't get through a day without, you know, copious naps, copious herbs.
Linnsey Dolson:Sure.
Katy Rose:And it took me years. And I hit a place where it was so funny. People were like, you were obese and are inarticulate, and then you're emaciating and dying. And now you're like shouting this functional medicine stuff from the rooftops. We're kind of annoyed with you.
Katy Rose:Like, shut up. But at the same time, they're like, and tell me about it because I got this issue. Right. And so I continued my education, my certifications, worked through the Institute of Functional Medicine and the, their coaching academy as well, worked in the diagnostic nutrition area. And through my practice over the last ten years, I've had just the joy of seeing so many things turn around for people.
Linnsey Dolson:What a blessing.
Katy Rose:Renal failure turnaround. Dementia markers decrease. I'm like like people walking with their cane are now walking on the beach, you know, like lives.
Linnsey Dolson:You're changing lives. You're changing lives. Well, I feel like even like with my autoimmune, going to different doctors, they've like tried to give me so much medicine or to numb oh, does it like you get like joint pain or swelling? Let me just- I don't want medicine.
Linnsey Dolson:Like just help me figure out the root of it so I could fix it. Like I don't wanna numb it. I don't want medicine. Like, I poisoned my body for twelve years. Like, I don't like to put anything bad in my body now.
Katy Rose:Yeah. You've worked hard to recover and get where you are.
Linnsey Dolson:Like a whole different aspect. Like, when you told me that, I was like, oh my god. I gotta pick your brain. I'm so excited. Like, after this, I totally wanna work with you on that of just like
Katy Rose:I would be honored.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah. Like, finding out even like, you know, everything going on with my gut and the autoimmune and all that because it does affect like, sometimes I'll feel fatigue and people cannot tell. Like that-
Katy Rose:You know why? Because you're a hummingbird.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah. I just like, I shoot through it, but there's days where like I actually wake up feeling like shit. Like, I don't wanna do anything. Like, I have no energy, all of that, and I push through it. But it'd be really nice not to have to push through it and to feel like, you know, and so it's just like getting to the bottom of it.
Katy Rose:So I call I call you one of my bootstrap girls. You're pulling those bootstraps up really hard.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah.
Katy Rose:Right? Like, it's like in spite of not having the resources, it's let's pull those bootstraps up and do this thing.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah. No. There's days where or even, like, it'll give you brain fog.
Katy Rose:Yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:Like my autoimmune, there's days where, like, I feel like I have brain fog, and I have to, like, think extra hard.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah. And it's so it's super and it's super annoying. So do you have a practice in San Diego? Or tell us a little bit about that.
Katy Rose:So, I I funny enough, I so I'm a a bit of an empath. I'm very sensitive to things and people's energies. And to be I love that. To be able to really do the work, the funniest way for me to do it is over the phone.
Linnsey Dolson:Okay.
Katy Rose:And so I need their heart and their head. Right? I need this. And the phone, like, people drop down. So Zoom, they're performative. In person where our energies are kinda colliding, trying to find each other. You know, when you first arrive someplace and you don't really know somebody, there's a different energy.
Linnsey Dolson:Like your guard is up.
Katy Rose:Yeah. Then the drop in. And so I don't want any of that to participate. I wanna get to their heart and their head. I want also to as they understand more about me, then I they I've earned their trust and they can share with me some of these funky little parts that get in the way of what they're doing in their daily life to interrupt their health
Linnsey Dolson:And they share that when their guard is down. And that makes sense on the phone.
Katy Rose:Yeah. So the Zoom, the technology gets in the way. It distracts. People get funky when they can see themselves.
Katy Rose:The energy in person, also the commute, like if somebody you know, so the great great thing is is I like we were in, The UK last summer and I was taking calls from The UK on WhatsApp doing my work, doing my clinical work. I love that. And so I'd lab work, I either send them a kit to their house or I'm sending them to a lab core in their area. And so we can do all the testing. I mean, there's pretty much not much I don't do.
Katy Rose:And then, but a lot of times, it's really a a funnel of a few tests that really are the big impact players. Right? That tell us so much.
Linnsey Dolson:Yeah.
Katy Rose:I like to start people with over 80 data points of blood and urine because they're like, yeah, I had I had this checked and I had this checked. And I'm like, let's check it full. Let's you know, when you want a whole picture, you need all the puzzle pieces or as many as possible.
Linnsey Dolson:Makes sense. Right.
Katy Rose:And so we start with that stool hormone testing.
Linnsey Dolson:Right? That's another one I wanna get done. I it's wild how much I was reading that the other day. I was like scrolling on my feed and a video on it came up and it was talking about all these side effects from people's hormones being out of balance. I was like, wow.
Katy Rose:Well, and it's funny because in functional medicine, we understand that functional medicine is root cause medicine. So if I cut my finger in the kitchen and I accidentally everyday cut so if I cut my finger, my finger knows how to grow back together.
Linnsey Dolson:Right.
Katy Rose:Your body knows how to work.
Linnsey Dolson:Right.
Katy Rose:All the parts, autoimmune or not, it knows how to heal. The autoimmune is what is the little cut that you keep accidentally doing or the little bit of poisonous or toxin that keeps getting in the way so that it won't grow back. So if we understand that so now what happens with hormones that's really makes me crazy in the world is people wanna go straight to the hormone. Well, that's like going straight to the symptom. I wanna see the blood work because I wanna see, you know, your kidney filtration.
Katy Rose:So for instance, estrogen. Estrogen primarily detoxes through our monthly bleed or through our kidneys, through our urine. So if we have a kidney filtration issue, slowed kidney filtration, then we have an estrogen dominance sometimes backed up into the system or that might cause a harder period because of it. Wow. But if we have that estrogen dominance, then we might be having, like, more cramping or, you know, fibroids or sweats or, you know, emotions.
Katy Rose:Right? So if we can understand that. But the other thing too is people go, hey, doc, I have these symptoms. And the doctor says, oh, that sounds like you are low in these hormones. I'm gonna give that to you.
Katy Rose:My problem with that is are you not making enough of that hormone or is your cell not receiving it? This the receptor site on the cell. So imagine you're you know, if this is like a very, very, very, very small version of your cell. So you've got your cell, you've got all these receptor sites on it for insulin, for all the hormones, etcetera. Those become a little damaged.
Katy Rose:Those become interrupted. And so maybe I have tons of estrogen floating in my system and and you you have plenty, you make plenty of estrogen, you're you're just not receiving on the receptor site. And so do we need to go and do a bit of a cellular detox and clean that up so that your body starts using it? Because if I'm a physician and I just prescribe, estrogen to somebody who has plenty of estrogen in their blood, now we have estrogen dominance. What happens with estrogen dominance? Pro cancer.
Linnsey Dolson:Really?
Katy Rose:Yeah. So we need to know what's going on more than what's being tested. And this has been my complaint forever now with the medical system. And it it's just a broken system. We have some amazing, wonderful, loving doctors who know I'm limited by these ways. I can't request those tests even though I want to. But what's really wonderful is then you get somebody like me who says, here's all the data. Now go take this to your general practitioner and we'll be a tag team.
Katy Rose:If they have an ego about it, that's okay. I don't have any ego. I'll still feed fill your head with all the information you need and then you can sort it out with them.
Linnsey Dolson:Right. Right.
Katy Rose:Yeah. Because I'm not a doctor. I don't prescribe. I recommend. I don't have patients. I have clients. And those clients, I all know they're the expert of them. So so it's looking at all Yeah. These And and the medical system has warranted this. There's there's more and more of me coming out into the world.
Linnsey Dolson:Which there should be. We need that. Yeah. No. We need that. I love that. So we have about one more minute to wrap it up. I want you to take this minute to show us your book.
Katy Rose:Oh, yeah.
Linnsey Dolson:Tell us about it and let everyone know how they can find you on what social media platforms, websites, how to find you.
Katy Rose:Okay. So, my so the book, we'll start there. The book, you can get on Amazon and it's The Power of Inner Sparkle. And, Lacey's, chapter number five, and I'm number four.
Katy Rose:She's backing me. She's got my back.
Linnsey Dolson:She brought me that's my version.
Katy Rose:Yeah. This is your copy.
Linnsey Dolson:I'm excited.
Katy Rose:Yeah. I was really excited because I didn't think you had one.
Linnsey Dolson:No. I didn't. I didn't. No. I'm so excited.
Katy Rose:And then on social media, I am it's Katy Rose effect, like a butterfly effect. Because I my philosophy on that is, I can work with you and everyone in your family will start to benefit because you feel better. Also-
Linnsey Dolson:100%
Katy Rose:You become more informed and having health sovereignty, and so you teach that information to those around you because you we can't help but share it. I always think good health is like you're at a restaurant and there's this amazing plate that's been put in front of you and you're like, oh man, you gotta try some of this. Right? That's that's what good health is, is people just wanna share it. So it's an effect that has waves.
Katy Rose:And so, my name is k a t y, rose like the flower effect on Instagram. That's my website. Yeah. And I I do tons of speaking everywhere and anywhere anybody will let me talk about these passions, I'm there.
Linnsey Dolson:I love that. Well, thank you so much for coming today. We appreciate you. Love you guys. Bye.
Katy Rose:Thank you.